The TV mogul also worked on "Peyton Place," "The Brady Bunch" and "Batman" before partnering with Aaron Spelling.
Douglas S. Cramer, Exec Producer on "Wonder Woman," "Dynasty" and "The Love Boat," Dies at 89
by Anonymous | reply 51 | June 9, 2021 4:01 PM |
He had a great ass, but ……..
by Anonymous | reply 1 | June 7, 2021 6:47 PM |
Involved in soo many iconic television shows of the 1970s and 1980s.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | June 7, 2021 10:16 PM |
Just read up on him I hadnt realised that he was family and one of us kind of thing!
by Anonymous | reply 3 | June 8, 2021 2:11 AM |
I will miss him most for his great beauty.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | June 8, 2021 2:20 AM |
He looks like he might be a QUEEN.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | June 8, 2021 2:26 AM |
All the Love Boat people are dying. Someone check on Lauren Tewes!!!
by Anonymous | reply 6 | June 8, 2021 2:28 AM |
r6 OMG You are right! didnt Jane Powell appear on Love Boat?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | June 8, 2021 2:29 AM |
R5, yes:
"Survivors include his husband, artist Hugh Bush."
by Anonymous | reply 8 | June 8, 2021 2:30 AM |
He married gossip columnist Joyce Haber in 1967 and they had two children. Their daughter committed suicide.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | June 8, 2021 2:36 AM |
r9 Does he have any grandchildren?
by Anonymous | reply 10 | June 8, 2021 2:40 AM |
I don’t believe so R10.
He had a son too who died when he was in his late 40s. By all accounts, he and the son were estranged
by Anonymous | reply 11 | June 8, 2021 2:43 AM |
Thanks r11 So he has no surviving descendants? His bloodline has died out and his widower will get the bulk if not all of his inheritance? Is his hubby a lot younger and handsome?
by Anonymous | reply 12 | June 8, 2021 2:46 AM |
The husband certainly looks younger. They bought waterfront property in Florida in January of this year for $8 million. I’m speculating as an investment.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | June 8, 2021 2:50 AM |
Years and years of schlocky TV - Bravo.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | June 8, 2021 2:53 AM |
Gave the public what they wanted, r14.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | June 8, 2021 2:57 AM |
Lynda Carter posted a nice tribute to him on her social media pages.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | June 8, 2021 3:05 AM |
Cheers r13
by Anonymous | reply 19 | June 8, 2021 3:09 AM |
Cramer was already a noted art collector during the run of the Love Boat. He personally asked Andy Warhol to make an appearance on the show, and Warhol agreed.
This is one of Warhol’s portraits of Cramer.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | June 8, 2021 3:15 AM |
His husband is kind of attractive ... and now, I assume, Dynasty-level rich.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | June 8, 2021 3:24 AM |
I know we're in a golden age of TV today. Sure.
But give me the 70s and 80s with Norman Lear, MTM, Carol Burnett, Aaron Spelling/Douglas S. Cramer, Knots Landing, Dallas, Dynasty, Falcon Crest, Cheers, and Family Ties.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | June 8, 2021 3:27 AM |
Looks on the clumsy side, r22.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | June 8, 2021 3:27 AM |
Is his cast part of the installation piece?
by Anonymous | reply 25 | June 8, 2021 3:36 AM |
"I know we're in a golden age of TV today. Sure."
"Sure?" Who told you "we're in a golden age of tv?" You must be kidding. I can't believe anybody would really think the shit on tv today constitutes "a golden age."
by Anonymous | reply 26 | June 8, 2021 3:39 AM |
R26, not saying we are; not saying we're not; everyone's entitled to their opinion.
Me? I love the stuff I grew up on.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | June 8, 2021 5:04 AM |
Shockingly, Candy Spelling hasn't offered her condolences.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | June 8, 2021 11:29 AM |
Hubby looks like he's packing.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | June 8, 2021 11:55 AM |
What do you expect from the likes of her, r28?
by Anonymous | reply 30 | June 8, 2021 1:44 PM |
I thought the Hugh Bush thing was a joke but it's real!
by Anonymous | reply 31 | June 8, 2021 1:49 PM |
Does he have a hugh bush?
by Anonymous | reply 32 | June 8, 2021 5:33 PM |
Hugh fucks like a champ.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | June 8, 2021 7:22 PM |
Has Joan Collins commented?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | June 8, 2021 8:59 PM |
He had something to do with "Life with Lucy", if Love Boat, etc. didn't epitomize bad tv enough then Lucy's last series has to be the capper.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | June 8, 2021 9:11 PM |
Thank you Mr. Cramer for years of WW spinning in the backyard as a young gayling.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | June 8, 2021 9:13 PM |
R34, Dame Joan hasn't commented, either. Looks like we're left with Maureen McCormack, who must have a "Death Watch" Google alert on.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | June 9, 2021 12:26 AM |
r37 I listened to a podcast last year I think were Joan seemed to allude to some of the shows producers in her view screwing her and other cast members over in terms of royalty rights? I could be mistaken? But if so that would likely in Joans view made Douglas S Cramer one of the culprits.Therein might lie the explanation for her silence?
by Anonymous | reply 38 | June 9, 2021 1:44 AM |
I don't know him.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | June 9, 2021 8:26 AM |
I dunno maybe it’s just me, but how tragic to not only outlive both his children, but to have a fractured relationship with his son, and lose his daughter to suicide. I know, I know, “but he had all that money…”. Anyone know more?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | June 9, 2021 10:15 AM |
Eww, who cares?
by Anonymous | reply 41 | June 9, 2021 10:21 AM |
R13 His husband gives me the same grifter vibes as Andy Cohen
by Anonymous | reply 42 | June 9, 2021 10:23 AM |
by Anonymous | reply 43 | June 9, 2021 2:35 PM |
The Cramer family was a Greek Tragedy. Straight out of a Judith Krantz novel. Douglas Cramer was a fairly awful person...in that "I am a legendary TV producer and I get what I want" kind of way. He and Joyce Haber were quite the power couple at one time. But if Doug was awful, Joyce was amoral. She was Hedda Hopper's replacement and was 100% venal. She was widely viewed as the last influential gossip columnist. Joyce is 100% responsible for publishing what she knew to be a false story—blind item but completely obvious—in the LA Times about Jean Seberg being impregnated by a Black Panther. Seberg wasn't exactly stable but after that her career was completely over and her life went out of control and she was dead by 1979.
Joyce eventually died in 1993 after a very long and painful illness. She and Cramer had divorced by then. Doug recast himself as a playwright and artist in the 1990s. A year after Joyce's death Cramer hosted a small, clubby reading for a Roman a clef play he had written about her ("The Last Great Dish"). It was never produced but was supposed to have been vitriolic. Doug and Joyce had two children. Courtney died in 2004...at 33. Doug III at 48 in 2015. Courtney is buried in St. Louis with her paternal grandparents. Doug III in Forest Lawn with Joyce.
As far as Hugh Bush, he was a wannabe playwright at one time and his relationship with Doug began in about 1990 when Hugh was in his mid-twenties and Doug in his early sixties. Hugh was then recast as an artist and Doug became a first-rate art collector. They were based in River House in New York. Dealers kissed their asses, big time. For decades Hugh was referred to as Cramer's "collaborator," "friend," "client," etc. Only in later years did "partner," and then "husband" start. Doug has buckets of money. Probably more than Aaron Spelling. He was at it longer and better than Spelling. Candy Spelling had a wrapping room. Hugh Bush probably has a money counting room. Hugh stands to inherit it all.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | June 9, 2021 3:19 PM |
He looks how I picture all Datalounge soap opera caftan queens.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | June 9, 2021 3:20 PM |
R44, thanks for the dirt!
by Anonymous | reply 46 | June 9, 2021 3:44 PM |
[quote]Just read up on him I hadnt realised that he was family and one of us kind of thing!
Are you blind? I've never seen that man before and had no idea who he was and I immediately knew. Jesus, look at that ONE picture and you know,
by Anonymous | reply 47 | June 9, 2021 3:56 PM |
[quote]Shockingly, Candy Spelling hasn't offered her condolences.
She's the Susan Dey of rich widows.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | June 9, 2021 3:57 PM |
r47 True. He has that Marcus Bachmann look.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | June 9, 2021 3:58 PM |
What an incredibly successful career he had
by Anonymous | reply 50 | June 9, 2021 3:59 PM |
Yes, R49! Definitely that Bachmann look.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | June 9, 2021 4:01 PM |