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Revisiting "Brokeback Mountain" 16 Years Later

I saw it when it was released in 2005, and it so was devastatingly sad, I've been hesitant to rewatch it.

I finally watched it again last night, and it still holds up. I also don't think I've seen a better performance by a male actor in a film than Heath Ledger's. He carried Ennis' pain and sadness physically. He was phenomenal. He should have won the Oscar that year.

And that final scene. So quiet, yet so powerful. It cuts me to the core.

by Anonymousreply 252October 13, 2021 9:06 PM

It's a depressing bi film which bisexual men who identify as gay have marketed as a 100% gay film. Datalounge especially which is full of bisexual men identifying as gay push this film so hard as a "gay" film. There are tons of fucking low IQ, unintelligent, duplicitous, bi, queer, and trans narcissists on this website.

OP, Brokeback Mountain is a fucking horrible, depressing bi film, about horrible and cowardly bi men. Even the Director of Brokeback Mountain admitted it was bad!

by Anonymousreply 1June 6, 2021 3:10 PM

Did nothing for me then and it still holds true today.

by Anonymousreply 2June 6, 2021 3:13 PM

R1 Bad day, dear?

by Anonymousreply 3June 6, 2021 3:13 PM

R1 Ang Lee never said the film was bad. In fact, he said he was very disappointed it didn't win Best Picture.

by Anonymousreply 4June 6, 2021 3:14 PM

I just can't watch it again. I have tried. And I've never had the same relationship with my tire iron ever since.

by Anonymousreply 5June 6, 2021 3:15 PM

The Film Was Bisexual!

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by Anonymousreply 6June 6, 2021 3:18 PM

Loved it in a sad way but wouldn't watch again. Also, would have loved a heads up before seeing Anne Hathaway's goose neck boobs.

by Anonymousreply 7June 6, 2021 3:20 PM

R1 every word in your post is pure BS. See R4. Also, it isn’t about bi men, nor is DL full of bi men. The movie is about the soul crushing effect a fiercely homophobic world has on gay men caught up in it. It is a depressing story, but that is the point.

by Anonymousreply 8June 6, 2021 3:20 PM


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by Anonymousreply 9June 6, 2021 3:22 PM

R1 seems unaware that the film begins in 1963 and ends in the mid 1970s.

In 1963 Wyoming, homosexuality wasn't exactly embraced.

I remember when the film was released, Focus Features created a website that featured a section where people could comment on the film. I was amazed and moved by the number of comments from men, many married and with families, who said they had had ongoing secret relationships similar to Jack's and Ennis' and how the film had impacted them.

by Anonymousreply 10June 6, 2021 3:25 PM

Bisexual, Not Gay!

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by Anonymousreply 11June 6, 2021 3:25 PM

I still don't know what "Stemming the Rose" means.

by Anonymousreply 12June 6, 2021 3:26 PM

It was clearly intended to be marketed towards straight people. The sex scenes are lame cop outs. And no way would they have done anal the first time (you can tell straight people wrote it from that alone). Two ripe cowboys exploring each other had a lot of possibilities. Instead we got saddled with that frumpy dishrag Michelle Williams played. The wife should have been more bitchy and vindictive. Anne was the best part.

A remake in this day and age would be nice. Perhaps with Matt Bomer and Ricky Martin playing the cowboys. There's a ton of gay directors who could give this the honest treatment it merits. Poor Ang Lee. He tried.

by Anonymousreply 13June 6, 2021 3:26 PM

R8 and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad DAy

by Anonymousreply 14June 6, 2021 3:26 PM

R12 Pretty sure it means fucking.

by Anonymousreply 15June 6, 2021 3:28 PM

R10 nice job dismissing the evidence and facts that the Film is not about gay men or homosexuality. It's bisexual from start to finish! You idiots continue to avoid facts, details, and evidence.

by Anonymousreply 16June 6, 2021 3:28 PM

Great, groundbreaking movie. Should have won the Oscar for Best Picture instead of that horrible Crash.

by Anonymousreply 17June 6, 2021 3:30 PM

I support bisexuals but blocked that troll as he was merely reposting the same remark. Probably not even bisexual just an old school troll.

by Anonymousreply 18June 6, 2021 3:31 PM

And Jane is still in the closet.

by Anonymousreply 19June 6, 2021 3:31 PM

Ooops, excuse the typo "Jake " is still in the closet.

by Anonymousreply 20June 6, 2021 3:32 PM

R16 is very, very upset today,

by Anonymousreply 21June 6, 2021 3:32 PM

A bi film is a gay film to straights.

And it was beautiful. Heath Ledger deserved that Oscar.

by Anonymousreply 22June 6, 2021 3:34 PM

It's too sad. I've only seen it once. Heath Ledger is transcendent though and did the character great justice.

by Anonymousreply 23June 6, 2021 3:34 PM

The Bi Troll is at it again. Block the idiot. The film is so clearly about two repressed gay men trying to fit into a str8 and cruel society

by Anonymousreply 24June 6, 2021 3:34 PM

Also, Michelle Williams should have won that year too. She was terrific.

by Anonymousreply 25June 6, 2021 3:34 PM

r24 exactly. And not only that, it was set in the early 60s! Were they gonna be out and proud? They would have been murdered, which happened to one anyway.

by Anonymousreply 26June 6, 2021 3:36 PM

R24 read the links posted you absolute fucking retarded dyslexic moron.

by Anonymousreply 27June 6, 2021 3:36 PM

Links providing discussions by whom? Idiots like yourself.

by Anonymousreply 28June 6, 2021 3:37 PM

The scene where Heath is eating alone in the diner after hearing of Jack's death and the woman he had been dating comes in and sees him is just amazing. You can feel Ennis' pain - he's hunched over, can't even look up at the woman. He is completely broken. Ledger definitely should have gotten the Oscar that year.

by Anonymousreply 29June 6, 2021 3:38 PM

I mean, who has anal sex without lube? Totally unrealistic.

by Anonymousreply 30June 6, 2021 3:40 PM

It's a Bisexual Film!

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by Anonymousreply 31June 6, 2021 3:42 PM

Jake was the bottom.

by Anonymousreply 32June 6, 2021 3:44 PM

[quote]The film is so clearly about two repressed gay men trying to fit into a str8 and cruel society

I'd never read the interpretation before that they were "bi." I clearly agree with you, r24.

[quote]And not only that, it was set in the early 60s! Were they gonna be out and proud?

It starts in the '60s, but ends in the '70s. At least, I think that's the timeline. Obviously they weren't going to be out and proud in Wyoming. I used to wish they'd moved to San Francisco, but I don't know if that would have been possible for them. OTOH, I knew in the 1960s that I was going to have to live in New York when I grew up if I wanted to have any kind of gay life.

by Anonymousreply 33June 6, 2021 3:44 PM

[quote]In 1963 Wyoming, homosexuality wasn't exactly embraced.

The 1990s weren't much better.

by Anonymousreply 34June 6, 2021 3:45 PM

I recently viewed it again and was deeply moved, especially the final scenes.

I was equally moved by God's Own Country.

I know, "Mary!"

by Anonymousreply 35June 6, 2021 3:47 PM

None of you read all the links posted, IMPLICITLY stating they were bisexual men in Brokeback Mountain. You lot are fucking pathetic and the most dishonest and disingenuous group of grifters online of offline.

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by Anonymousreply 36June 6, 2021 3:49 PM

R36 DO fuck of, you mentally ill twit.

by Anonymousreply 37June 6, 2021 3:54 PM

Homosexuality was not embraced anywhere in this country besides San Francisco, and even there they had pushback.

NYC has been another victim of revisionism. Gays could be out here but they were not embraced here. Thank God there were gay men who started their own businesses and areas so gay people can exist, and those spaces were always under attack by the government and Police. But this idea you were embraced is bullshit.

10 years ago gays were still reviled.

by Anonymousreply 38June 6, 2021 3:54 PM

"Stemming the rose" is a metaphor for anal sex.

The dick is the stem and the anus is the rose.

by Anonymousreply 39June 6, 2021 3:55 PM

Flawless script, great performances, gorgeous photography, haunting score . . . heartbreaking, memorable, nearly unbearable.

And robbed at the Oscars by the cowards in the business.

by Anonymousreply 40June 6, 2021 3:55 PM

They were not bisexual though. They were both gay men who wanted to be with each other but couldn't because they knew what would happen. They felt they had no choice but to marry women and start families, something that still seems to be a part of white America. You even see it on here, a man getting questioned for his sexuality if he is over 30 and not married. White gays are just as guilty for pushing that straight normality as anyone.

by Anonymousreply 41June 6, 2021 3:57 PM

R34, you know that was a drug deal gone bad, right? Shepard wasn't some innocent young flower.

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by Anonymousreply 43June 6, 2021 3:58 PM

Of the four main actors, I thought Jake was the weak link.

Next to the last scene, the one that got me the most was when Anne is on the phone with Heath, telling him that Jake has died. There is so much that is NOT said in that scene.

by Anonymousreply 44June 6, 2021 3:58 PM

Agree entirely.

by Anonymousreply 45June 6, 2021 3:58 PM

I could not agree more.

by Anonymousreply 46June 6, 2021 4:01 PM

r44 there was a thread about that one scene on here a couple of years ago. Hathaway is still asked about that scene to this day.

Jake G is always the weak link and I felt he was terrible in a handful of scenes, and ruined some parts. The role should have went to a more sympathetic actor, but most actors didn't wanna touch this.

by Anonymousreply 47June 6, 2021 4:02 PM

Anne's wig was grotesque. Ledger's mumbling was distracting. Bored with it the first time and cant imagine enduring it again.

by Anonymousreply 48June 6, 2021 4:09 PM

"When someone mentions Brokeback Mountain, do you think “the movie about the gay cowboys” or do you think “the movie about the bisexual cowboys?” If you think the former, you’ve just provided an example of how well bi-erasure operates."

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by Anonymousreply 49June 6, 2021 4:10 PM

It's a nice film, but at this point I'm tired of fiction about gays suffering because they're gay (it's kinda selfish on my part, I know). I want to see stories with gay characters which doesn't revolve around acceptance of their sexuality. Thankfully, the literary market is starting to catch up on this.

by Anonymousreply 50June 6, 2021 4:12 PM

"For anyone who has doubts about putting Brokeback in a bisexual category at all, keep in mind this is a film about two men who sleep with both men and women. Heath Ledger told Time, "I don't think Ennis could be labeled as gay. Without Jack Twist, I don't know that he ever would have come out.... I think the whole point was that it was two souls that fell in love with each other." Whereas Gyllenhaal says he just thinks they were two straight guys who fell in love. I think overall it's fair to put these guys in an ambiguous category, and, hey, we're an ambiguous category if I've ever seen one!"

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by Anonymousreply 51June 6, 2021 4:17 PM

"Films and TV have a hard time depicting things outside the boxes of "straight" or "gay." Both characters in Brokeback Mountain, for instance, could be seen as bisexual, but instead were portrayed as closeted gays and sold to the public that way."

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by Anonymousreply 52June 6, 2021 4:21 PM

There are no questions that it is one of the best gay movies of all time, if not the best. It takes place in the 60s in rural areas in which most gay men had to marry women to conceal their sexuality. They are gay and the film stays true to the reality back then. I’m still pissed that it didn’t win the best picture thanks to those homophobes at the academy.

by Anonymousreply 53June 6, 2021 4:21 PM

I agree downer gay films are not my favorites but this one is a good example of what it was/is like for gay men in conservative locales, those who work in masc jobs and feel obliged to interact with deplorables. Its an important film IMO.

by Anonymousreply 54June 6, 2021 4:25 PM

I question whether it is any good or not, never mind the absurd claim that it is “one of the best gay movies of all time.” It is pandering crap. It’s also sluggish and poorly paced, not to mention self-loathing.

[italic]God’s Own Country[/italic] is its superior in every way, effectively making this trash film permanently obsolete.

by Anonymousreply 55June 6, 2021 4:26 PM

"Another woman wrote on Facebook that, of all the films that have dealt with bisexuality, she liked this film second after Brokeback Mountain."

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by Anonymousreply 56June 6, 2021 4:27 PM

American gay movies are crap compared to ones made by the UK, Europe, and Asia.

by Anonymousreply 57June 6, 2021 4:28 PM

It's very problematic and should be canceled. There's no trans and little POC representation (Jack does go to Mexico so there's that). And there's gendered pronouns all the fuck over the place. Literal. Violence.

by Anonymousreply 58June 6, 2021 4:28 PM

Now you're being ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 59June 6, 2021 4:29 PM

None of this changes the fact that one of the stars made [italic]Bubble Boy[/italic].

by Anonymousreply 60June 6, 2021 4:29 PM

R58 was being sarcastic

by Anonymousreply 61June 6, 2021 4:30 PM

I was being sarcastic. I thought that was obvious.

by Anonymousreply 62June 6, 2021 4:31 PM

The film is problematic, but not for those reasons.

by Anonymousreply 63June 6, 2021 4:34 PM

Not obvious after the Bi Troll tonteria.

by Anonymousreply 64June 6, 2021 4:34 PM

Randy Quaid will always be Cousin Eddie to me.

by Anonymousreply 65June 6, 2021 4:36 PM

They're not fucking bisexual. They're closeted gay men who feel pressured/forced to be with women for "cover" in order to live life in a virulently homophobic world. This is clear in many ways, as Ennis can only have sex with his wife "from the back" (probably has to fantasize she's Jack to get hard and cum), and his lack luster desire for his "dates" and "wife", and his UTTER LACK OF PERSUING WOMEN.

The dumbass bi freak needs to pipe the fuck down. Before liberation, gay men routinely had sex with women out of necessity and survival. That didn't make them BI. Being BISEXUAL is about DESIRE. And Ennis desired Jack. And Jack desired MEN.

by Anonymousreply 66June 6, 2021 4:36 PM

"Easily one of the greatest films of the last twenty years, Brokeback Mountain tells the story of two sheep hoarders who begin a relationship over a summer. Although their sexualities are never labeled in the movie, both Jack and Ennis are shown marrying women and starting families with them."

by Anonymousreply 67June 6, 2021 4:36 PM

Bi Troll? Bi Nasty!

by Anonymousreply 68June 6, 2021 4:36 PM

"Easily one of the greatest films of the last twenty years, Brokeback Mountain tells the story of two sheep hoarders who begin a relationship over a summer. Although their sexualities are never labeled in the movie, both Jack and Ennis are shown marrying women and starting families with them."

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by Anonymousreply 69June 6, 2021 4:37 PM

One of the greatest movies of the last 20 years? The last 20 years have been the worst years for movies since they were invented. Even then, you still couldn’t beat the guy who wrote his best work for Mindy Cohn. Even her gay movie was better though it was no Oscar winner.

by Anonymousreply 70June 6, 2021 4:38 PM

Die Bi Troll. DIE.

by Anonymousreply 71June 6, 2021 4:39 PM

You realize this thread is about the movie and not a discussion board about homosexuality vs. bisexuality. Geez, gurlz.

by Anonymousreply 72June 6, 2021 4:41 PM

This bi troll needs to go away. You are annoying

by Anonymousreply 73June 6, 2021 4:41 PM

R71: Now you sound just like the hate criminals in this movie. If it wasn’t for the amount of money they spend on location scenery, this would be just another shitty “bury your gays“ melodrama.

I’ve seen less patronizing depictions of same-sex intimacy in Ricky Schroder movies.

by Anonymousreply 74June 6, 2021 4:42 PM

R74 Okay, honey. We get it. You hate the movie. So kindly please exit this thread and go about your miserable life.

by Anonymousreply 75June 6, 2021 4:43 PM

"Brokeback Mountain is a fictional mountain in the United States. The Ang Lee picture was quickly mocked as a “gay cowboy” film, despite the fact that if people actually watched it, they would know it is about bisexual shepherds."

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by Anonymousreply 76June 6, 2021 4:44 PM

Didn’t [italic]South Park[/italic] already beat them to it?

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by Anonymousreply 77June 6, 2021 4:47 PM

Until you dishonest and pathetic idiots admit that the Film was bisexual, I'll keep posting more evidence. NONE of you can prove the Film was actually gay or about gay men, yet I've provided tons of evidence proving that the Film was bisexual and NEVER gay.

by Anonymousreply 78June 6, 2021 4:48 PM

R78 apparently can't read R66

by Anonymousreply 79June 6, 2021 4:48 PM

The gay guys in [italic]God’s Own Country[/italic] were gay. And made it to the end of the movie alive and still in love.

by Anonymousreply 80June 6, 2021 4:49 PM

It was slated to win Best Picture but it was determined the world was not ready for a gay Best Picture winner and all those people who gave pushback against the film being released would cause issues, so they awarded Crash. Supposedly it would have had a better shot at winning if the sex scene was omitted.

Same reason Ledger lost Best Actor.

by Anonymousreply 81June 6, 2021 4:50 PM

The word "patronizing" has been used several times here, and I don't know who the movie is supposed to be patronizing.

To the person upthread who said God's Own Country - an outstanding film IMO - was superior and rendered Brokeback obsolete:

Given Brokeback is set in the 1960s and the British film is set IIRC in the present day, I don't know how they're comparable.

by Anonymousreply 82June 6, 2021 4:50 PM

Block it and it disappears for eternity. Ciao bimbo.

by Anonymousreply 83June 6, 2021 4:50 PM

There's no such thing as bisexual unless you ONLY desire sex with men and women at the same time.

"Bisexuals" are gay and straight depending on the day and who they're having sex with.

by Anonymousreply 84June 6, 2021 4:52 PM

I prefer the PORNO version


by Anonymousreply 85June 6, 2021 4:53 PM

[quote] Given Brokeback is set in the 1960s and the British film is set IIRC in the present day, I don't know how they're comparable.

Because of this lousy movie, every movie with gay characters that is set an a rural area is falsely accused of being a ripoff. I heard that charge lobbied against [italic]God’s Own Country[/italic] falsely, and it is fucking annoying. For one thing, the British film is so much better.

Even where Ang Lee is concerned, I have never even seen [italic]The Wedding Planner[/italic] but it can’t possibly be worse than this embarrassing, condescending mess.

by Anonymousreply 86June 6, 2021 4:54 PM

I hate the bisexual troll in this thread, but R84 is a fucking moron.

by Anonymousreply 87June 6, 2021 4:55 PM

Also, Brokeback was a mainstream film. Gods Own Country was not

by Anonymousreply 88June 6, 2021 4:56 PM

Then fuck the mainstream because this movie sucks. It offended me.

by Anonymousreply 89June 6, 2021 4:56 PM

Lee's other gay film is The Wedding Banquet.

by Anonymousreply 90June 6, 2021 4:57 PM

That cannot possibly worse than this homophobic fiasco.

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by Anonymousreply 91June 6, 2021 4:58 PM

I can't understand how any gay man could loathe this film.

by Anonymousreply 92June 6, 2021 4:59 PM

If Brokeback Mountain were released today, the complete lack of trans POC representation would be very problematic.

by Anonymousreply 93June 6, 2021 5:00 PM

R89, then you're too easily offended, and seeking offense where none is offered. The problem isn't the movie. The problem is you.

by Anonymousreply 94June 6, 2021 5:01 PM

R93, please read the thread, that joke was already done.

by Anonymousreply 95June 6, 2021 5:01 PM

R91 - the comment that appears after the article is really telling:

"old buddy, I think you’re a bit guilty of hating the movie for being something it’s not, rather than hating it for being something it is. Or, to put it another way, you’re critique is that it’s not telling the story that YOU want it to tell."

by Anonymousreply 96June 6, 2021 5:04 PM

The QUEENS who hate this movie are giving the movie more attention than it deserves.

A GAY movie that was really AWFUL - Philadelphia (1993)

by Anonymousreply 97June 6, 2021 5:05 PM

"In films with bisexual characters, it’s rare that the word “bisexual” actually comes up. It’s mostly ambiguous, implied or erased completely by the protagonist seemingly picking a side. It’s constantly reinforced by narrative tropes that are set up for dramatic entertainment, with no real intention of representing sexuality with genuine care. Erasure also happens due to words like “gay” being used as an umbrella term when referring back to certain films. Brokeback Mountain (2005) and Call Me By Your Name (2017), for example, are often referred to as gay films on social media due to the gay relationships portrayed, However, the characters are portrayed to be sexually fluid/bisexual due to the nature of their relationships with women. It also happens with films like Blue Is the Warmest Colour (2014) which is always painted as a lesbian love story when Adèle (Adèle Exarchopoulos) is clearly bisexual. It’s not necessarily bad to use gay and lesbian as umbrella terms, but it, unfortunately, does contribute to bisexual erasure. We should be bringing more attention to bisexuality on-screen and pointing it out specifically when we see it."

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by Anonymousreply 98June 6, 2021 5:05 PM

[quote] I can't understand how any gay man could loathe this film.

Because it is tedious and offensive.

by Anonymousreply 99June 6, 2021 5:06 PM

R97: Both Boreback Mountme and Phil-my-delphia were bad and overrated. The awards they received were affirmative action awards, plain and simple. The same academy voters routinely and systematically ignored gay movies that were actually entertaining and did not send troubling messages.

by Anonymousreply 100June 6, 2021 5:07 PM

Everyone knows this is the gayest thing to come out of Philadelphia:

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by Anonymousreply 101June 6, 2021 5:08 PM

The bi erasure troll needs to be erased. Bye!

by Anonymousreply 102June 6, 2021 5:08 PM

I’ve always wondered:

Would this film be as popular if the two main characters weren’t young and handsome? What if Jack and Ennis were middle-aged, overweight, with bad skin, teeth, and hair? Would viewers still be taken with the romance of the story or is it just skin-deep?

by Anonymousreply 103June 6, 2021 5:09 PM

This movie changed nothing if that godawful [italic]Transamerica[/italic] came out shortly thereafter.

This movie changed nothing if gay boys who don’t conform to soul-crushing stereotypes of males would rather be women than be gay.

by Anonymousreply 104June 6, 2021 5:10 PM

I can't understand how any Black person could loathe [italic]Song of the South[/italic].

by Anonymousreply 105June 6, 2021 5:11 PM

You can't erase something that doesn't exist.

by Anonymousreply 106June 6, 2021 5:12 PM

"The two male leads in Call Me By Your Name—an LGBTQ+ focused film that performed well at the Academy Awards—have been interpreted by mainstream media as gay men rather than bisexual. Orange is the New Black has also been criticized for bi-erasure due to the lead, Piper, being called a lesbian by her husband and a straight girl by her ex-girlfriend Alex, instead of correctly identifying her as bisexual. Brokeback Mountain is another critically acclaimed queer film that depicts the relationship between two male characters who are bisexual, yet has been labeled as one of the best gay movies of all time."

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by Anonymousreply 107June 6, 2021 5:12 PM

That movie was the worst yet. An anti-semitic pedophile melodrama glorifying a country with a long history of anti-black racism.

by Anonymousreply 108June 6, 2021 5:13 PM

[quote]Because it is tedious and offensive.

But it is, in actuality, neither.

Again, the problem would seem to be YOU, not the film.

by Anonymousreply 109June 6, 2021 5:16 PM

The only stereotype that this movie challenged is the stereotype that all gay men have good taste.

by Anonymousreply 110June 6, 2021 5:16 PM

R109: so you’re saying I’m a bad person for pointing out why this is a bad movie? No, if anything is the problem, it is you for defending this retrograde homophobic crap. The more you defend this movie, the more it proves how self-loathing you are. I’m tired of these maudlin gay bashing melodramas.

This hokey, cliched story was barely worth a mid-1990s TV movie with Rick Schroder and Chad Allen in it.

by Anonymousreply 111June 6, 2021 5:18 PM

[quote]I can't understand how any gay man could loathe this film.

Me, neither.

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by Anonymousreply 112June 6, 2021 5:18 PM

Because the subject matter is handled so poorly as to be embarrassing.

Even the gays in [italic]Blazing Saddles[/italic] bashed back. And even that movie is a more realistic depiction of what happens after you have beans for dinner.

by Anonymousreply 113June 6, 2021 5:20 PM

R111, you really have issues. Again, the problem is with you. Not me. Not the movie. You. YOU have issues. Go seek help for your completely irrational and baseless anger and lashing out.

by Anonymousreply 114June 6, 2021 5:23 PM

R112, so you're trying to say that never actually happened back in those days? You don't want a realistic portrayal of reality of these men's lives in those times? WTF is wrong with you?

by Anonymousreply 115June 6, 2021 5:24 PM

Now that is a bigoted comment. Saying I “need help” is homophobic because the mental health industry is a racket with a long history of bigotry against gay people. And an ongoing one as well.

Thank you for proving my point: not only does this movie suck but its fans are self-loathing homophobes who take it out on gay people who don’t hate ourselves enough to indulge in homophobic mainstream media propaganda.

Why the hell do you have a fetish for watching gay people being murdered when there are still countries on earth where homosexuality is illegal? What the hell is wrong with you? Why can’t you see how bad this movie is and the damage it has done to the gay community?

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by Anonymousreply 116June 6, 2021 5:26 PM

R115: what the hell is wrong with you for thinking that it is okay for heterosexuals to turn our pain and suffering into BDSM torture porn?

by Anonymousreply 117June 6, 2021 5:27 PM

I want movies where gays bash back and win.

by Anonymousreply 118June 6, 2021 5:27 PM

R116 You could replace "gay" with "Black" and it would have the same meaning. However, people are still subjected to yearly, monthly, and daily reminders of how bad Black people had it (still have it) in society while other people can conveniently forget what gay people had to suffer, and still do. Why can't gay people remember what their forefathers struggled and how far we've come the way Black are celebrated for remembering their struggle?

[quote]Thank you for proving my point: not only does this movie suck but its fans are self-loathing who take it out on Black people who don’t hate ourselves enough to indulge in Black mainstream media propaganda. Why the hell do you have a fetish for watching Black people being murdered when there are still countries on earth where slavery is legal? What the hell is wrong with you? Why can’t you see how bad this movie is and the damage it has done to the Black community?

This is how you sound right now.

by Anonymousreply 119June 6, 2021 5:34 PM

No it would not because everybody in this movie is white.

by Anonymousreply 120June 6, 2021 5:38 PM

I think it’s a beautiful movie and agree the ending of heartbreaking. I can’t watch it very often because it’s so emotional for me.

by Anonymousreply 121June 6, 2021 5:38 PM


"Annie Proulx says she wishes she’d never written the short story that inspired Brokeback Mountain.

Ang Lee’s 2005 adaptation of the romance, which was originally published in The New Yorker in 1997, was met with universal acclaim upon release, earning three wins at the 78th Academy Awards.

It is often regarded as one of the best LGBTQ+ films of all time, and is credited as the turning point for the acceleration of more authentic queer cinema into the mainstream.

Despite its success, Proulx recently admitted in an interview with the Paris Review that “it’s just been the cause of hassle and problems and irritation”.

“I wish I’d never written the story. Before the film it was all right,” she said, before explaining that fans “can’t understand that the story isn’t about Jack and Ennis.”

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by Anonymousreply 122June 6, 2021 5:40 PM

I can’t watch it because there are better things to be doing with my time and better movies to watch, especially better gay movies.

Get a life. If you can’t understand how offensive and overrated this movie is, not to mention just plain bad on a purely cinematic level, then you really are self-loathing. Why should Gay people have to settle for less in terms of how we are represented on screen? I don’t buy into this “visibility at any cost“ crap if the cost is our gay identity and sexuality itself.

Future generations of gays will forget about this movie altogether.

R122: I rest my case.

by Anonymousreply 123June 6, 2021 5:42 PM

The scene that always gets me is Ennis visit to Jack's childhood home. Jack's dad knew about Jack and Ennis; you can sense the angry mockery when the dad laughs at Jack's dream of taking over the family farm with Ennis. Jacks mom knew about Jack and Ennis; you can tell when she knowingly packages up the shirts Ennis found in Jack's closet.

by Anonymousreply 124June 6, 2021 5:44 PM

I wish Annie Proulx had pulled a J.D. Salinger and denied the rights to anyone for any reason.

by Anonymousreply 125June 6, 2021 5:45 PM

Our bi troll has also been busy on the "Harry Styles is gay" thread:

"There are way more bi than gay people."

by Anonymousreply 126June 6, 2021 6:39 PM

That is technically true but missing the point. The point is the movie just does not live up to the hype.

by Anonymousreply 127June 6, 2021 6:40 PM

Aren't they remaking this in a more modern day fashion? Can't fathom how they would pull the same story off without making one character FTM trans, and if they do, that will be truly homophobic.

by Anonymousreply 128June 6, 2021 6:42 PM

I have an straight coworker that watch the film for the first time recently and he loved it

To be fair, i'm a bad gay because i've never watched it

by Anonymousreply 129June 6, 2021 6:46 PM

The remake would be record shattering if Harry and timothee star in it

by Anonymousreply 130June 6, 2021 7:07 PM

Sorry, but those two won't be believable as shepherds

by Anonymousreply 131June 6, 2021 7:10 PM

Yeah, it would shatter the record for the worst movie of all time. That record is currently held by 2003’s [italic]The Cat in the Hat.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 132June 6, 2021 7:11 PM

R130, it could be called Shepherd’s Pie.

by Anonymousreply 133June 6, 2021 7:13 PM

[quote]those two won't be believable as shepherds

Timmy and Harry can star in the alternate version in which Ennis and Jack do move to San Francisco. Fuck death by tire iron. Just fuck it right in the ass. Annie Proulx's ass.

by Anonymousreply 134June 6, 2021 7:13 PM

"I used to wish they'd moved to San Francisco, but I don't know if that would have been possible for them."

What could a couple of farmhands have done in San Francisco, bus dishes and make barely enough to live in a shitty neighborhood where they'd get gay-bashed? Or find a job on a ranch outside of Los Banos, and realize that if they spent too much of their time off in San Francisco, they'd be in for a gay-bashing when they got home? No, there was no easy way out for people of that background in those days, the only safe-ish place for gays in those days was in the closet or the big city, and it was damn difficult for anyone from a working-class rural-poor background to fit into a big city.

And will the guy who hates "Brokeback Mountain" give it a fucking rest? We get it, you hate the movie, but repeating yourself constantly won't make anyone else hate it too.

by Anonymousreply 135June 6, 2021 7:15 PM

The movie sends the message that even masculine gay men are useless in a fight. That is not something I am OK with.

by Anonymousreply 136June 6, 2021 7:17 PM

[quote]What could a couple of farmhands have done in San Francisco, bus dishes and make barely enough to live in a shitty neighborhood where they'd get gay-bashed?

They could have worked in bars. You'll have noticed neither of them was particularly unattractive. And it didn't cost that much to live there those days. One of the cliches from the '70s was that of clones moving to the Castro and buying fine china with their welfare checks. Not saying that was true for many, or even true at all, but I doubt life would have been impossible for them.

And they might eventually have gone to college, done well for themselves. You don't know.

by Anonymousreply 137June 6, 2021 7:20 PM

[quote] What could a couple of farmhands have done in San Francisco, bus dishes and make barely enough to live in a shitty neighborhood where they'd get gay-bashed?

Perhaps they would prefer New York.

by Anonymousreply 138June 6, 2021 7:26 PM

I recently watched Maurice and he could handle himself in a fight, A136. That movie is genuinely touching and interesting. Love the happy ending.

I thought Brokeback Mountain was an extremely depressing movie, not sure why it garnered so much attention other than the leads all being very hot Hollywood properties at the time. Clearly not about bisexual men, however. More like gay men trapped in a world that despises them.

by Anonymousreply 139June 6, 2021 7:30 PM

[quote] The gay guys in God’s Own Country were gay. And made it to the end of the movie alive and still in love.

God’s Own Country was a snooze fest!

by Anonymousreply 140June 6, 2021 7:37 PM

[quote]God’s Own Country was a dong fest!


by Anonymousreply 141June 6, 2021 7:43 PM

R140, get help for your ADD.

by Anonymousreply 142June 6, 2021 7:46 PM

Actually back in the 80s, when I was hanging out in SF, there were Western gay transplants. If you were from those Western states that's where you migrated, not New York. Life was easier in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, so they managed to get requisite work skills and make a life of it.

I often wondered if some of them formed a backbone of the nascent MCC San Francisco being from those fundamentalist Protestant backgrounds.

by Anonymousreply 143June 6, 2021 7:55 PM

"The movie sends the message that even masculine gay men are useless in a fight. That is not something I am OK with."

What are you referring to, the guy losing a fight where he's surprised to be attacked by armed men that he thought were friends or family members?

by Anonymousreply 144June 6, 2021 8:05 PM

[quote] God’s Own Country was a dong fest!

Even full frontal couldn’t save that gloomy boring ass movie. If you want to see a dick. Pull up some porn. Much better than sitting through Gods Own Country.

by Anonymousreply 145June 6, 2021 8:11 PM

A fight he might’ve won if he had also been armed.

by Anonymousreply 146June 6, 2021 8:11 PM

R145: Some of us can actually follow the plot of a real movie. You’re not even smart enough to follow the story arcs on [italic]Sesame Street.[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 147June 6, 2021 8:12 PM

What is Annie Proulx bitching about? The story was treated with the utmost respect by the director. It was brought to life with breathtaking scenery and great acting. It was well received by critics (nominated for many awards) and by the public. I would imagine she got a hefty paycheck.

by Anonymousreply 148June 6, 2021 8:17 PM

[quote]What is Annie Proulx bitching about?

I read her remarks as being about the homophobic backlash to the movie on one hand, and the gay fanfic of her characters on the other. The novella had a limited number of readers. When the movie became a cultural phenomenon, it put her and the characters in the spotlight.

by Anonymousreply 149June 6, 2021 8:20 PM

Those critics were wrong and those awards were cheapened.

[italic]Crash[/italic] also sucked but for different reasons. So did that George C. Looney movie.

by Anonymousreply 150June 6, 2021 8:21 PM

What's the final scene? I forget.

by Anonymousreply 151June 6, 2021 8:23 PM

It also makes no goddamn sense. Who the hell has buttsex after eating beans? And the way the actual sex is edited it’s obvious there was no actual penetration. In this case, you might just as well watch porn or at least a better movie.

Even [italic]The Birdcage[/italic] offended me so much less because it showed gay culture as being full of life, not death, and that even the queeniest queen who ever queened is still a man and can still be a good husband and father.

by Anonymousreply 152June 6, 2021 8:24 PM

R151, same as The Full Monty, except with country music.

by Anonymousreply 153June 6, 2021 8:25 PM

Tell people you are cousins and nobody will give a shir, All that misery instead. No more the great gay love story than nasty "Call Me By Your Name" was later.

by Anonymousreply 154June 6, 2021 8:25 PM

Some gay men really are cheap dates.

by Anonymousreply 155June 6, 2021 8:27 PM

"Even The Birdcage offended me so much less because it showed gay culture as being full of life, not death"

Wrong. There's absolutely nothing about "gay culture" in "Brokeback Mountain", it's about a man who has absolutely no contact with gay culture and is only aware of contact with one gay/bi man.

If any culture is "full of death" in "Brokeback Mountain", it's the straight conservative culture that greets the out or outed with tire irons.

by Anonymousreply 156June 6, 2021 9:05 PM

Hey, R122, your reading comprehension skills are poorly lacking.

First of all, it says nothing about Ang Lee. It's about Annie Proulx. And what she's actually talking about is her short story, not the movie. The movie shone a light on the story she wrote and the characters she created. The movie got such intense reactions that she questioned the short story she wrote and whether she did the characters justice, which made her sometimes wish she hadn't written it.

Nice try, though. BITCH.

by Anonymousreply 157June 6, 2021 9:54 PM

When I watch this movie, I think about Will Geer. He was a pioneer gay activist and was in a long-term relationship with Harry Hay. Yet he was married to actress Herta Ware for 16 years and had 3 children with her. Harry Hay was also married for 13 years and had 2 kids.

Back then, gay men still got married and lived separate gay lives. It's what you did then.

Brokeback Mountain reflected the culture and attitudes of the time.

by Anonymousreply 158June 6, 2021 10:18 PM

Beautiful film.

by Anonymousreply 159June 6, 2021 11:38 PM

R157 my reading comprehension is perfect BITCHFACE. I know that was Annie being quoted and not Ang. The point is BITCHFACE, even the writer Annie regretted Brokeback Mountain because people were making up their own stuff about the characters that were false. The lead male characters were NEVER hinted at being actually gay! You fuckheads automatically infer like with everything, that they were "gay" despite glaring and obvious bisexuality throughout the ENTIRE film. Everything pointed in the opposite direction of gay and true homosexuality, LITERALLY. Hence why the straight sex was more pronounced and explicit, yet the gay sex scene was singular and absolutely pathetic and terrible. It completely mocked homosexuality, because the lead men were bisexual. It was borderline like watching a nonconsensual rape scene. I know it's hard for you and your retard unintelligent fuckheads to see that it's a bisexual film, but it is. The film is bisexual and the movie was trash, just like your bisexual whore mother and your bisexual whore father.

Ang never actually said the lead men were actually gay either. Even the actors fucking stated that the men weren't gay, and that's already been posted above in several of the articles. Yet you pathetic idiots keep on making it "gay".

by Anonymousreply 160June 7, 2021 1:51 AM

R158 today, "gay men" do the exact same things TODAY. It has nothing to do with the time period or generation, it's a personality disorder that exists regardless of what time period it is which keeps closet cases sealed into cowardice. In 2030 we'll still be talking about the same bi and cowardly closeted men in general who use the exact same excuses as every closeted gay/bi man in times past. The statistics and studies prove that, and real life experience and observations of people who aren't fucking retarded and brain dead or drug addicts like most of you are fully aware that the same excuses are used by the same cowards as they always were.

The openly gay men in every time period are the real men, the real examples, and the real backbone of masculinity. The majority who are still closeted even today and hiding behind the same excuses, are nothing but cowards and oftentimes stay in the closet and do everything possible to stigmatise homosexuality and being openly gay! Example A, majority of you on Datalounge. Gay men in countries were it's still illegal are exempt from this and it's definitely not their fault. But the majority of closeted gay and bi men in the Western countries, are deep in the pathetic state of cowardice, and internalised homophobia is their middle name. Especially with bisexual men. It's a FACT.

Gay rights wouldn't have existed if every gay man stayed in the closet. The openly gay men are the real heroes of every generation, and they hardly ever get praised, thanked, or appreciated for their integrity, courageousness, and authenticity. You all just circle jerk to men like the ones depicted in Brokeback Mountain who were not only bisexual, but complete cowards in every single way possible!

by Anonymousreply 161June 7, 2021 2:12 AM

R160 Who is this bitch?

by Anonymousreply 162June 7, 2021 2:14 AM

R160 Honey, you said in one of your posts that Ang Lee didn't like the movie. That was proven to be a lie. Therefore, any subsequent bullshit you frantically type out until your tiny fingers become bloody is completely irrelevant.

Take your lies and your faux outrage to the streets, honey, 'cause it ain't workin' here.

by Anonymousreply 163June 7, 2021 2:23 AM

R162 a truth teller, unlike 99% of you fake cunts.

by Anonymousreply 164June 7, 2021 2:24 AM

Geez, R160 is one thirsty attention whore without a cause, isn't she?

by Anonymousreply 165June 7, 2021 2:24 AM

The cinematography and score in this movie are incredible. That haunting music captures the longing and the sadness of the movie's theme.

by Anonymousreply 166June 7, 2021 2:26 AM

R163 hey cuntface, I didn't mention Ang. I said, 'Director'. Annie was like a co-director of Brokeback Mountain.

by Anonymousreply 167June 7, 2021 2:26 AM

R167 0/10

by Anonymousreply 168June 7, 2021 2:28 AM

R168 Yeah so you lied cuntface, because I didn't say Ang. I said Director because Annie was considered a Co-director and sometimes was referred to as a Co-director in some articles. So fuck you.

by Anonymousreply 169June 7, 2021 2:31 AM


This is you: "God, you're an idiot. Even though I said "director," I didn't really mean, ya know, the actual director of the movie. I can't believe you didn't know I was referring to the almost director - the screenwriter. You're so stupid."

You can take your toys and run along home now.

by Anonymousreply 170June 7, 2021 2:31 AM

Hey, R168, do you need another shovel yet?

by Anonymousreply 171June 7, 2021 2:32 AM

^ Disregard.

It should read, "Hey, R169, do you need another shovel yet?"

'Cause the hole's getting pretty deep.

by Anonymousreply 172June 7, 2021 2:34 AM

R170 R171 that's right cuntfaces, as I already said more than once I meant Co-director. What aren't you understanding cuntface? The one who needs another shovel is you cuntface.

by Anonymousreply 173June 7, 2021 2:35 AM

R173 Yo, Queen of all Cuntfaces and Current Title Holder of the 2021 Datalounge Dumbass Award, Ang Lee is credited as the director. Annie Proulx is credited as the writer. And that means you're full of shit. I bet you were the kid in school who wet his pants, then told everyone you meant to do it.

How far do you think can keep digging?

by Anonymousreply 174June 7, 2021 2:40 AM

It somewhat normalised the trend of a mainstream gay movie and that is great. But aside from the performances, it doesn't hold a candle to movies like Happy together or Weekend.

by Anonymousreply 175June 7, 2021 2:44 AM

Hey, R173, I just read your original post. You actually capitalized the "D" in "director," so it's pretty obvious you meant the Director of Brokeback Mountain, Ang Lee.

Your story was proven false, you got caught, so just fess up you that you made some shit up to get a reaction.

Instead, you're just making yourself look...well...stupid.

by Anonymousreply 176June 7, 2021 2:45 AM

R176 Annie is known as a writer and a producer. Producers and directors are considered similar. She helped produce/direct Brokeback Mountain. You are the stupid one.

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by Anonymousreply 177June 7, 2021 2:55 AM

"There can be some overlap between the responsibilities of a director and a producer, and some people may even serve both roles on the same project."

SO FUCK YOU R176. Annie was a Co-director/Producer of Brokeback Mountain. Annie was like a second Director beside Ang. That's why I only said Director. I backed up my argument with evidence. You cunts have backed up nothing with evidence.

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by Anonymousreply 178June 7, 2021 3:01 AM

R160 and his mental illness certainly sent this thread straight down the crapper.

by Anonymousreply 179June 7, 2021 3:12 AM

R179 ad hominem attack which proves you can't defend your argument. Again, not only did I prove that Brokeback Mountain isn't a gay film but a bisexual film from the several articles proving it, I also proved that Annie is a Producer/Director not just a Writer of Brokeback Mountain. You and your retard army are the mentally ill and unintelligent cunts.

by Anonymousreply 180June 7, 2021 3:24 AM

And R174 I've always had a gay pissing fetish, and so did a lot of boys at my school.

by Anonymousreply 181June 7, 2021 3:39 AM


by Anonymousreply 182June 7, 2021 3:41 AM

Thanks to this thread I watched God’s Own Country tonight.

Someone should throw a Terse Gay Shepherds Film Festival

by Anonymousreply 183June 7, 2021 4:34 AM

I don't think marrying a woman or having sex with one because you can't deal with your homosexuality or as in the case of the characters in this film there was little opportunity to meet other gays is bisexuality.

Bisexuality is when people genuinely enjoy sex with both men and women.

by Anonymousreply 184June 7, 2021 4:40 AM

Heath Ledger's character was supposed to be Mexican.

by Anonymousreply 185June 7, 2021 4:47 AM

R184 they did enjoy fucking females! They were Bi!

by Anonymousreply 186June 7, 2021 5:07 AM

[quote] Heath Ledger's character was supposed to be Mexican.

There are NO homosexual Mexicans. This was told to me by an Evangelical co-worker whose Evangelical parents came from Mexico.

by Anonymousreply 187June 7, 2021 5:07 AM

How do you know they enjoyed it r186? They are both miserable in their marriages.

by Anonymousreply 188June 7, 2021 5:10 AM


by Anonymousreply 189June 7, 2021 5:11 AM

R188 bi men need females and males at once otherwise they go miserable. That's the whole fucking reason they are bisexual. They need both males and females because that's how fucked they are.

by Anonymousreply 190June 7, 2021 5:13 AM

you are insane r189 and so is the article

by Anonymousreply 191June 7, 2021 5:21 AM

R191 sorry that you can't handle the truth cuntface.

by Anonymousreply 192June 7, 2021 5:24 AM

Your constant use of the word cunt pretty much says all we need to know about you r192.

by Anonymousreply 193June 7, 2021 5:29 AM

R193 it's because nothing is worse or more insulting than a CUNT. But okay, I'll call you retards something else equally as deserving.

by Anonymousreply 194June 7, 2021 5:32 AM

So any gay man whoever had sex with a woman is bi? (don't know why I'm bothering to interact with you but your pathology is sort of fascinating.)

by Anonymousreply 195June 7, 2021 5:41 AM

I sentence R161 to go back and live as an openly gay man in the rural mountain west in the early 60s. Maybe after several years of that he'll learn what a fucking idiot and asshole he's being.

by Anonymousreply 196June 7, 2021 5:57 AM

Sexual orientation is determined not by behavior but by desire.

by Anonymousreply 197June 7, 2021 5:58 AM

[quote] If any culture is "full of death" in "Brokeback Mountain", it's the straight conservative culture that greets the out or outed with tire irons.

While this movie is undeservedly put on a pedestal by the same "straight" white liberals who would gladly trans the gay away rather than actually have gay children.

by Anonymousreply 198June 7, 2021 6:39 AM

Oh, there are still young men in Wyoming who have realized they're attracted to men, but who are still afraid of "the tire iron" and who don't know how to get out of where they are in today's world.

The difference between them and Ennis del Mar is that today's young gay men have heard about gays in the mass media their whole lives, and have the whole internet at their disposal. Ennis would have had no meaningful access to gay resources, there'd be nothing in the media except occasional references to arrests or "perversion", and I presume he spent his life in the sort of small towns where he didn't even check out books about homosexuality out of the local library for fear of vicious gossip and the tire iron.

by Anonymousreply 199June 7, 2021 6:41 AM

[quote] Oh, there are still young men in Wyoming who have realized they're attracted to men, but who are still afraid of "the tire iron" and who don't know how to get out of where they are in today's world.

Then this movie changed nothing.

by Anonymousreply 200June 7, 2021 6:47 AM

[quote] The wife should have been more bitchy and vindictive.

That might have made her more entertaining, but less sympathetic. She was married to a man who she believed loved her and learned the truth the hard way. I sympathized with her, she was a decent soul who deserved better than what she got. In her way she was another victim of the prejudices of the time.

by Anonymousreply 201June 7, 2021 6:56 AM

I didn't. I thought it was reprehensible for AnnE to get more recognition.

by Anonymousreply 202June 7, 2021 6:59 AM

Williams got more attention than AnnE. Williams got an Oscar nomination and all the other award nominations too.

by Anonymousreply 203June 7, 2021 7:12 AM

[quote]A remake in this day and age would be nice. Perhaps with Matt Bomer and Ricky Martin playing the cowboys. There's a ton of gay directors who could give this the honest treatment it merits. Poor Ang Lee. He tried.

He made a better gay movie than this. A remake would just have the same problems unless they Disneyfied it to have the male leads live happily ever after.

by Anonymousreply 204June 7, 2021 7:15 AM

Too bad that Danny and I weren't able to make God's Own Country in our day. Of course it wouldn't have been as sexy and Danny would have mugged through the whole thing.

by Anonymousreply 205June 7, 2021 9:36 AM

Meant to sign in @R205

by Anonymousreply 206June 7, 2021 9:38 AM

R178 Watching you melt down, I must admit, is quite entertaining.

by Anonymousreply 207June 7, 2021 11:26 AM

R196 I know gay men from that time period, some are gay therapists, and they were openly gay in rural parts of the USA back in the 60's. I already mentioned that in my posts about openly gay men of every time period and generation. The difference between them and the pathetic examples of men in Brokeback Mountain, is that they weren't weak or cowards! Men are still closeted today. Your appeal to the 60's or any time period is a logical fallacy, because openly gay men existed in those time periods. You fucking morons keep ignoring that deliberately like the narcissistic scum you are and always will be.

R197 it's determined by both. You know nothing of sexual orientation, but that's not surprising because majority of you have been and still are sexual and romantic with females. Weak men with no backbone or integrity. Mostly drugged up to the eyeballs too.

by Anonymousreply 208June 7, 2021 12:13 PM

R67: Sheep Hoarders?

by Anonymousreply 209June 7, 2021 12:53 PM

"Then this movie changed nothing."

What, you think one movie should change society and eliminate homophobia? No, this movie was all part of the gradual increase in gay visibility and sympathetic portrayals in the mass media, which has led to social acceptance, decriminalization, and gains in legal rights since the 1960s. I've seen it all happen over sixty years, and it's been giid,

But that doesn't mean that things are easy for rural working class gay youth out there in Flyoverstan surrounded by Deplorables and guns, but at least they have easy access to information about gay life. And if it's not easy for them to get out and start a new life somewhere gay-friendly, well, that's due more to economic factors than prejudice. You can't just haul off to NY or SF now, unless you win the lottery.

by Anonymousreply 210June 7, 2021 2:33 PM

It's been GOOD.

by Anonymousreply 211June 7, 2021 2:35 PM

Oh fuck you, R208. Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 212June 7, 2021 2:43 PM

Reminder: Ennis's father drug him out to see two gay men who were tortured and murdered because they were gay to "show him an example of what happens" to "those people". This scarred Ennis for life.

by Anonymousreply 213June 7, 2021 2:44 PM

R208 So you know those gay therapists you know? Make an appointment.


by Anonymousreply 214June 7, 2021 2:51 PM

Gawd, the freak that hates this movie and closet cases just won't shut up!


by Anonymousreply 215June 7, 2021 3:24 PM

The hater must have been the earlier bi troll cause he's not showing up for me after I blocked the first troll. It's all trolling folks, put him on ignore.

by Anonymousreply 216June 7, 2021 5:17 PM

As trolls go, the bi troll is especially persistent. He posts constantly, in many threads. This thread improved vastly once I blocked him.

by Anonymousreply 217June 7, 2021 5:21 PM

He may be more mentally ill than most trolls, R217.

by Anonymousreply 218June 7, 2021 5:31 PM

[quote]He may be more mentally ill than most trolls

He's also a racist who has posted vile comments about Kamala Harris.

by Anonymousreply 219June 7, 2021 6:02 PM

KKKamala Whore-is is vile for enabling state terrorism against Black men.

by Anonymousreply 220June 7, 2021 7:07 PM

[quote]What, you think one movie should change society and eliminate homophobia?

If Disney thought taking [italic]Song of the South[/italic] away would make racism go away — it didn't — then one movie can make a difference. I'd honestly rather watch that.

by Anonymousreply 221June 7, 2021 7:08 PM

The note in the tackle box scene still cracks me up, it's so stupid and s is Williams in it. She's already witnessed her husband deep throat kissing Jack down In the alley so isn't the jig up then? Why the stupid note "trick"?

by Anonymousreply 222June 7, 2021 7:09 PM

Most wypipo movies are stupid. And it's an example of how Asians contribute to white supremacy and anti-Blackness.

by Anonymousreply 223June 7, 2021 7:11 PM

R222 She wanted to see if he would try and cover his tracks. He didn't.

by Anonymousreply 224June 7, 2021 10:50 PM

Is the bi troll the same troll who insists Annie Proulx was the assistant director of the movie, or is that a different nutjob?

by Anonymousreply 225June 7, 2021 10:52 PM

You guys do know that the first time they fucked, they used no lube (spit doesn't count) AND they had had beans for dinner and yet, there didn't seem to be an issue. You know what this means.

by Anonymousreply 226June 8, 2021 1:22 AM

[quote]Is the bi troll the same troll who insists Annie Proulx was the assistant director of the movie, or is that a different nutjob?

Same nutjob.

by Anonymousreply 227June 8, 2021 1:38 AM

R227 That dude has some serious problems, huh? Instead of being on DL, he should probably be in therapy.

by Anonymousreply 228June 8, 2021 2:16 AM

Brokeback Mountain is a classic American film. Anyone who has loved and lost can relate to it. Timeless.

by Anonymousreply 229June 8, 2021 2:57 AM

[quote]That dude has some serious problems, huh? Instead of being on DL, he should probably be in therapy.

He should probably be in the loony bin. "I PROVED Annie Proulx was the co-director of Brokeback Mountain!"

by Anonymousreply 230June 8, 2021 3:17 AM

R229 bi people and bi people identifying as gay relate to it. Same goes for Call Me By Your Name, and 99% of so called "gay films" which are actually BTQ+ films. 99% of those films don't actually feature true gay characters and true homosexuality. It's the "gay version" of what BTQ+ and straight people added and created in 99% of those films. It isn't true homosexuality or true gay characters in those movies. It's fluidity/pansexuality/bisexuality cancer. If you can't see that, then you aren't intelligent or aware, and potentially drug induced 24'7 or suffering from the ramifications of drug abuse which impairs the development and functioning of your brain. I guess if you are an "Eldergay" but you really seem like an "Elderbi" you were on the drugs too and sexually and romantically attracted to females like the lead male characters in Brokeback Mountain.

by Anonymousreply 231June 8, 2021 7:49 AM


by Anonymousreply 232June 8, 2021 8:05 AM

I had to block two posters on this thread alone whom I think is the bi troll. This level of persistent antisocial behavior should get him whited out by Muriel.

by Anonymousreply 233June 8, 2021 10:54 AM

I'm being made to watch this now by my partner. It's like what straight people think gay people are like.

by Anonymousreply 234June 15, 2021 11:05 PM

One of the best gay films ever produced. How did Crash end up with the Oscar instead? I don’t know.

by Anonymousreply 235June 15, 2021 11:17 PM

I remember the fan art inspired by the film that actually sold on eBay. Some of it was quite explicit, all of it hilariously tacky. I hope there is an archive of it somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 236June 15, 2021 11:45 PM

"It's like what straight people think gay people are like."

Well it was written by a straight woman.

But I don't think there's a lot of literature out there, written by conservative rural-poor gay men eager to tell the world about their experiences.

by Anonymousreply 237June 15, 2021 11:56 PM

I just saw it today for the first time.

When he found the bloody shirt and jacket in the bedroom…..I lost it. I cried.

Yes, I know, MARY….but as an elder gay, loss has been a way of life for me.

by Anonymousreply 238June 26, 2021 1:28 AM

It promoted bareback sex so I guess that was good.

by Anonymousreply 239June 26, 2021 1:35 AM

I personally think 'Fair Haven' (conversion therapy) was a much better film. A t least the 2 main characters were Gay & it had a very positive ending, unlike BBM.

by Anonymousreply 240June 30, 2021 4:27 PM

Aren't these guys a little pretty to be cowboys? I guess they play stupid pretty good though.

by Anonymousreply 241July 20, 2021 9:58 PM

A sentimental fantasy written by a straight women about gay men starring straight men set in the American west directed by a Taiwanese director. Very authentic all around. I don't like movies about fudgepackers.

by Anonymousreply 242July 20, 2021 10:21 PM

I hate the bi-trolling around here more than anybody, those trolls are psychotic, but they seem to be on to something about this movie being about bi dudes. There ARE closeted men who don't want anything to do with pussy at ALL. Am I supposed to believe that there weren't any adult bachelors in Wyoming in 1963?

by Anonymousreply 243July 20, 2021 10:37 PM

[R243] The movie is a dull, overwrought fantasy by a middlebrow writer. Attempting to vet its authenticity is pointless - the characters are stick figures played by actors more familiar with Mt. Hollywood than the Grand Tetons.

by Anonymousreply 244July 20, 2021 10:41 PM

All I can say is that 16 years later when Heath closes that door I still cry like a baby.

by Anonymousreply 245July 22, 2021 5:12 PM

So it's a movie about a retarded laborer who ruins things for everyone. Nice...

by Anonymousreply 246July 22, 2021 7:15 PM

I mean, is it not a gay "Of Mice and Men" but with Ledger as Lennie?

by Anonymousreply 247July 23, 2021 12:39 AM

Ledger was acting. Gyllenhaal was behaving.

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by Anonymousreply 248October 13, 2021 3:12 PM

OP I have the same reaction as you when I watch it. Ang Lee's sparse landscapes and the haunting music score cuts deep.

by Anonymousreply 249October 13, 2021 3:22 PM

Great pic

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by Anonymousreply 250October 13, 2021 4:27 PM

New interview. He SAID he’s STRAIGHT

Howard Stern talks to Jake Gyllenhaal about how people became obsessed with his sexuality after Brokeback Mountain

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by Anonymousreply 251October 13, 2021 9:03 PM

They’re sheep herders, not cowboys.

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