9/11, 20 years later

[quote]In two months it will the 20th anniversary.

Please buy a calendar.

I mourned my fiance by hopping on a bunch of d*cks including Tiger Woods

[quote]Please buy a calendar.

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"Never forget!"

We won't. Because the grief porn industry will never let us.

I hope Subway brings back "Subtember 11"!

Yeah I think the "grief porn" is largely overstated here. After Trump and 2020 people will have to reminded its been 20 years. By the 30th year it will be another Pearl Harbor.

It's already began.

All 9/11 posts get deleted, OP.

"Chelsea was jogging that morning near the Twin Towers."

^Later proved to be untrue.

The sky was so blue ....

I was working for the RI Attorney General's Office. Our first indication that something was wrong is our net connection was swamped. Went up to the Admin directors office the TV was on and I got there just in time to see the 2nd jet slam into the other tower.

[quote]It's already began.

Oh, dear.

I know a woman in PR who wrote a book about 9/11 solely because she thought she would make a fortune off of 9/11. She published stories of several people who were there that day, with a bit of a religious slant to it because she also does PR for the Lutheran church. It was published on the 10th anniversary, and she still has copies that haven't sold.

This woman was so greedy that she tried to make bank from this national tragedy.

It almost seems like it was 30 years ago instead of 20. It was such a huge cultural shift.

My favourite 9/11 stories are the supernatural ones.

The near misses are also fascinating.

I was home recuperating from Lipo, I had it the Thursday before. I was on meds & ended up watching the ABC Judy Garland biopic to try to take my mind off things, which didn’t work. My neighbor was a Congressman & said the Pledge on the steps of the Capitol later that day, that made us all cry. My grandma had called & woke me up, saying turn on the TV, which I did just in time to see the 2nd tower crash & collapse.

The night before it happened, I watched "An Affair to Remember" on TV. During the scene where Deborah Kerr and Cary Grant see the Empire State Building from the ship and decide to meet there "because it's the tallest building in New York," I remember thinking with a sigh of nostalgia that I wished that this were still true. I lived in NYC when the World Trade Center was being built, and I'd always hated those towers. It wasn't just because they looked out of scale with the rest of the skyline, but they also blocked my TV reception at my Brooklyn apartment (transmitters were still atop the Empire State Building then).

When I woke up the next morning to the shocking news, all I can remember thinking is that I my wish had been granted. And, irrational though it may be, I still feel guilty, as if my hate for the twin towers somehow caused the tragedy.

I think you’re going to be a little early to that party, OP.

I think it’s going to be ridiculous when the people responsible for the insurrection and attack on our democracy try to act like this means something to them. It should be the moment they completely disappear up their own asses.

I still think it was their ilk that “allowed” it to happen to make their illegal war in Iraq happen. They really thought they were going to just claim the oil fields of Iraq for themselves. Cheney madness.

R14, she wasn’t the only one. Most didn’t wait 10 years to do it either. Barely 10 mins.

I just bought a calendar!!!

I was 7 when it happened, I can't remember the day itself or the event but I do remember the next day; I was in my small town school in the UK and my class spent the whole day off from normal schooling. We had a circle time where we could talk about how we felt about the event, our teacher trying in her best way to allow us to understand the scale of what happened without scaring the shit out of us and then we were asked to make cards and write letters for the children in New York, I've always wondered if they actually reached the kids over there.

Great thread!

Life before 9/11 was great and getting better. Life since 9/11 is a hellscape and only getting worse.

A few years ago, I hooked up with a hot twentysomething via Grindr and we had a great time.

As we were dressing, I mentioned that a 9/11 anniversary was that week and he began telling me about how his mother came to pick him up at school after classes were cancelled for the rest of that day.

I said, "Wait, how old were you on 9/11?".

He said "Six".

I grew up in NJ. That morning, the teachers were alerted via intercom to check their emails as soon as possible. While my teacher checked and read her email, we all heard a girl running down the hallway, screaming. We were all like, WTF? Then my teacher finally turned on our classroom tv, and as the picture of the burning tower became clearer, a girl in my class screamed, said her uncle worked there, grabbed her purse, and ran out of the classroom in hysterics, spilling her purse everywhere on her way out. A few more cries of anguish echoed through the hallways as we all watched the tv.

Other than New Yorkers, no one will really care

I never believed the official story was "the whole truth and nothing but the truth"; however, it took 100 years for the false flag Battleship Maine to be accepted.

I think the attacks were unexpected, but I do believe Bush and Cheney used the attack to start a war they had always planned on getting into.

Sky so blue on 8/1, remember?

Of course you don’t, because nothing happened on 8/1.

My boyfriend was getting ready to go to work and I was sleeping in when he came and woke me up saying a plane had hit the WTC. He was from NY state so I forgave him ruining a rare sleep in . We go and sit in the living room watching the news coverage when we watched the 2nd plane hit. We just looked at each other in mute horror . Not long after that his office closed for the day and his co workers came to our house (we lived around the corner) and we all just sat watching the coverage and many of us crying. I still get chills and very emotional when I think of that terrible day . I still cant watch much about it either.

R33, Are the two of you still together?

Of everything associated with 9/11, nothing has moved me more than the documentary " Telling Nicholas," the actual story of a 7 yr old boy whose mom was in the tower. In this scene, his dad has to tell him that his mom is never coming back.

R35 - I think that's really troubling to film you telling your son about their dead mother and putting it out there for the world to see.

That's pretty fucked up - not everything belongs on film.

Back in September 2001, how MANY DLers claimed to "supposed to have been on that flight!"?

I can just imagine the faked drama.

FFS, fat slob R29, at least the Saudi pigs must care as a score of them also died in the towering inferno.

This doc. collected some awesome footage. Watch it before it gets removed.

I once read that a plane simply could not fly at that low altitude- it would literally fall apart. Planes need rockets to get them to an altitude where they basically surf the atmospheric wind currents. They're not helicopters you can steer around Manhattan.

And how do people just out of flight school maneuver a plane with such finesse that they are able to hit small targets at 600 mph- not once but 3 times (Pentagon)?

I worked out by Atlanta airport. Driving home and seeing not one airplane in the sky was so surreal. When I got on on my exit I was greeted by the military from the nearby army base, Ft. Gillem. They had roadblocks up everywhere. I went home and hugged my child for what seemed like an hour, not wanting to let her go. I think it comforted me more than her.

Ugh. Woman at R40.

R36, you need to see the entire film.

R39 is batshit crazy.

R34 no,he died 10 years later on his 50th birthday ,Sept 2nd 2011. Complications from MS. He was the 2nd (and last) husband I lost.I was 51 and hung up my marriage cap forever.

R41- Kindly fuck off. It doesn't matter what we were doing that day, it can never be forgotten, even for those who were not there and were blessed enough not to lose anyone. For the ones who were there and did lose someone, it must haunt them. They have my upmost sympathy.

I have sufficient.

"They have my upmost sympathy."

Oh, dear.

I had really been looking forward to September 11th as I had booked a flight to Greece with a friend. I remember how impatient we were for the day to arrive. We were actually in the air when the attacks happened, it was surreal to find when we had landed, that the entire world had just changed.

I do not wish to see the media exploit this again for clicks. We can honor the victims quietly.

[quote]This woman was so greedy that she tried to make bank from this national tragedy.

Absolutely despicable.

It is more likely drones spying on us from Russia or NK or China. Apparently, we have also spied on Russia this way.

[quote]I once read that a plane simply could not fly at that low altitude- it would literally fall apart. Planes need rockets to get them to an altitude where they basically surf the atmospheric wind currents. They're not helicopters you can steer around Manhattan.

I read that too. Fortunately I know BS when I see it.

I was living with the Frenchman at the time. He worked nights at the airport and came home ~730am (mountain time), and said (I thought), "two plane collide over Ottawa!!" - which would be horrible enough. Turned the tv on to see the horror in NYC. Well, SHIT...Gotta go to work, I guess...so I went. It was a weird, surreal drive listening to the radio all the way where every music station was carrying live news. Get to work, people in disbelief. We had tv's all over the floor. Already people were saying Bin Laden. No one was working/could work. Can't bill for this...so I stayed for about 2 hrs, and then drove home on empty roads. Glued to the tv until I couldn't stand it anymore, and then tried to do normal stuff (cook, laundry, chat) but it was all in a daze with the permeating and deafening silence of any air or car traffic - indeed any usual neighborhood sounds. The deafening silence continued for many days, and the Frenchmen had no work as the airport was closed (that imposition is another story...). The only thing that comes close to that absence of sound for me is the very early days of covid lockdown last March. A similar surreal feeling when I felt the sky was open wide above the Earth.

Omg is everyone going to rehash their “where I was on 9-11 stories?” If you weren’t there, no one cares.

Someone in the Beyonce thread said the disaster Michael Jackson 30th Anniversary special (featuring skeletal Nippy Houston!) caused 9/11! 🤣

The special concluded taping on September 10, 2001. Michael was due at Windows on the World for a meeting the next morning, but overslept because of Katherine keeping him up half the night.

Time has certainly marched on, both Michael and Whitney are long gone now.

[quote]In two months it will the 20th anniversary

In two month it will be 8/1. You're a moron.

I think much of the attention on the 20th anniversary will be for the first responders who have died after getting Covid in the last year. Covid has wiped out huge numbers of them who developed health conditions.

OP, I really don't care. Do you?

Because this tragedy brought us prolonged wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, eight years of the GWB presidency, the 2008 economic meltdown, the greatest partisan divide because of Obama's election, and of course the 2016 Trump victory. Who fucking cares anymore? Fuck 9/11. We're in the worst spot we've been in since Pearl Harbor or the JFK assassination.

Where were you on 9/11, R54? Blowing your dad, no doubt.

It is egregious that the 9/11 responders who have suffered health issues from doing their jobs on that day have, in a lot of cases, been denied their insurance and medical coverage. Insurance is such a huuuuge scam. Don't get me started....My hearts go out to these people and their families. Fighting the enemy indeed...

[quote]I once read that a plane simply could not fly at that low altitude- it would literally fall apart.

Yes. That's why instead of planes descending to lower altitudes and landing at airports, we all parachute out from 30,000 feet.

[quote] It is egregious that the 9/11 responders who have suffered health issues from doing their jobs on that day have, in a lot of cases, been denied their insurance and medical coverage. Insurance is such a huuuuge scam. Don't get me started....My hearts go out to these people and their families. Fighting the enemy indeed...

I vaguely recall reading an article several years ago about a paramedic who tried to sue his insurance company to get coverage for health issues related to 9/11.

R62 I believe there was a 60 Minutes about it years ago and I was horrified. I think also Michael Moore covered this in one of his post "Columbine" films but the name escapes me. On youtube this is what I could find quickly. BTW Jon Stewart is looking old but I still would. And bravo to him for his much impassioned appeal to Congress.

Bill passed. I am sure there is much red tape still, but thank goodness.

For about a year after 9/11, Larry King asked each guest "Where were you on 9/11?" and then their collective responses became a CNN special.

I was rewatching old news reports the other day. Not even sure why. I realized video of people jumping had been in those original reports.

It didn't register on the day but on watching again you can see glass fall then dark shadows fall soon after from the same spot.

My heart goes out to anyone directly affected.

For some weird reason, for the several years around 9/11, I rewatch the documentary The Falling Man.

R67 The Falling Man was an excellent documentary.

I was a regular reader and poster on DL, even though I’m a straight woman. I loved the gossip, political chatter, and the wit of the site. My name was “Woodstock’s Cats”. Lots of posters were from NYC and there was a lot of concern for those people on line. I was on line all day, as DLers checked in with worried on line friends, it was a wonderful, long thread and I have a link to it if anyone is interested. We were truly a family that week.

Anyway, I’ve always remembered the vivid blue sky that day. It was like that in NY, and Chicago, where I live, and seemed to be all over the country. I call any day I see that sky a “a 9/11 day”. However, in airline lingo it’s called “severe clear”.

My high school boyfriend was an ER doctor in NYC. I saw him on the news and emailed him. He worked 48 hours straight and has PTSD.

R44 Are you man or woman?

[quote] Other than New Yorkers, no one will really care

Probably true now that the narrative of America under siege has been played out and replaced with “my guns” and QAnon and other topics.

But for a while there, it really felt like the attitude in Stripmallandia was, “you New Yorkers just don’t get how important 9/11 was to us real Americans, how much we suffered.”

R54 chimed in right after R53's rambling non-story, perfect timing. I'm so tired of hearing everyone's rehashed "where I was when I heard" tales. As R54 said... no one cares!

R73 I was eating a hotdog in Time Square when it happened. I think I had a soda too, probably a coke.

I was walking r73's mother around on a leash while she filled her diaper with shit.

[quote]I had really been looking forward to September 11th as I had booked a flight to Greece with a friend. I remember how impatient we were for the day to arrive.

I hated that. I flew out a couple of days after 9/11, then again the day after the 2005 London Bombings. Each time was a super long flight that required stopping in the Middle East. It was really uncomfortable. The last time I flew, two hours before checking in I sleepily turned on the TV in the airport hotel and watched in disbelief as the Bataclan Massacre was happening in Paris. That was the worst flight ever, I was totally disoriented and did not sleep at all until I got home, although the flight itself was uneventful.

I was always horrified by the people who were forced to choose to jump and fall to their deaths instead of being consumed by the flames and heat. I always found that awful beyond belief.

I have thought about it for many, many hours over the past 20 years and I can't imagine that choice.

many of the jumpers were either pushed out of the windows by others who were clamoring for air, or somehow sucked/blown out.

Yes that too R78. My post wasn't very well thought through/written. I should have said "whatever the circumstances were that led them to be falling to their deaths".

Fell out, jumped out, pushed out, collapsed out. Every one of them are horrifying.

There was a video that since has been scrubbed of the lobby in tower 2 and you could hear people hitting the glass ceiling. There was some lady that would whimper every time you heard it,and the police and firemen looked absolutely stricken. I watched it a few times before I realized what was going on. Horrified me then,horrifies me now.

r35 Pete Davidson was also 7 years old on 9/11.

R81 we know

Amazing and horrifying video:

The terror was immense.

R80, that was from the French documentary by the Naudet brothers called 9/11. It's chilling footage because the firemen are standing around in the still standing lobby and you hear the sounds of people hitting the ground. At one point, one guy just says, "Jumpers." It's some pretty sobering shit.

Thank you R85 ! Not that Im going to look for it,but its nice to know I sorta remembered it correctly.

I was 9 years old and I still have nightmares. It could have been me!

What a pity it wasn't you R87.

We'll never know how many DLers we lost that day.😭

20 years later and the fecking "temporary" liquids ban still in effect.

It's been 84 years...

OP is a stupid fuck who doesn’t understand the difference between infer and imply. I’ll try to spell it out:

—Individual A IMPLIES that there’s a dead body in the attic.

—Individual B understands the hint and INFERS that there is, indeed, a body in the attic.

That's a quote from the book Fall and Rise. Stupid fuck!

News coverage minute-by-minute.

I listened to one of the phone calls from one of the towers years back and am fucking sorry I did, it was devastating. A young women was trapped and she told the 911 operator she was going to die. UGH.

Does the original thread still exist? I was like the fifth poster on the thread (pre-Dustin moniker). A woman I worked with at the time had a cousin in the WTC and a niece in the Pentagon. The niece survived. The cousin didn't.

I went home around 10:30 that morning to watch the coverage. My sons came home for lunch from school and I kept them home to watch the coverage.

Here is the original thread r96

R95 I listened to a few of those calls years back. I remember one call where a dispatcher's voice got really sad once she realized the person on the line likely got killed by the collapse. The dispatcher called out the person's name a few times.

I hadn’t been born yet.

Thanks R97. That was a rough read. It was weird seeing some people be psychic about what was to come and others be WAY off the mark.

Most prescient post, to me: There will be so many terrible things that this tragedy will give birth to. Timothy McVeigh is dancing in hell.

R97 Are there any other 9/11 threads from around the time of the attack? Hard to believe there was only 1 that didn't even fill up.

R2 on the original 9/11 thread deserves a special DL Citation.

bump

Imagine people sitting there eating breakfast.

Is anyone watching that Memory Box documentary tonight on MSNBC?

I got to work in Arizona just after the first tower was hit and watched the rest on TV with everyone else in the office. What blew my mind was the lady I worked with who paid no attention to it at all, but just worked as if nothing was happening. I even mentioned it to her and she said, "Yes, isn't it awful" with a little LAUGH! That's strangely what I remember most.

A dear friend died. I went into shock & just blanked it out at first. Kept thinking no, not David.His wife had a severe breakdown, his little girl so messed up. Hard, still miss him. A good man who hated his job but went to work to take care of his family. His wife & had almost convinced him to quit & do something else. He was once of the most decent people I have ever known. Still hard. Good friends, good people don't grow on trees.

A family in my hometown lost a loved one. His remains weren't discovered at Ground Zero until two years later.

R106, Wouldn't that have been around 5:30 AM?

My ex woke me up (wasn't working that day). On the East Coast, couldn't believe it.

Can't believe it. I'm so sorry for so many who lost loved ones, especially service workers up there. still freaks me out, especially what they must have experienced.

I cannot even comprehend what the people trapped in the towers were going through.

I was the allergists office in Pittsburgh. I was rushing to get ready so never turned on the TV, I/We learned while listening to the radio with the doc and staff that a hijacked plane was literally over our heads just prior to crashing into a field in Shanksville PA. At this point all air traffic was being stopped and planes hopefully were being brought down safely. I worked at a nearby college and we spent a good deal of time in the chapel that day.

I think I would have jumped then be burned alive. There’s never too much any of us can do to memorialize these victims of these SAUDI terrorist, Bush/Cheney cunt suckers. NEVER FORGET!

People were not constantly online in 2001, so posting on DL was not everyone's first thought after a tragedy. That changed for me that day.

the 9/11 thread was what made DL my home. I had lived in NYC, and was on the West Coast, and DL was the only site I could get to when I needed to talk, and one of my posts was quoted on this thread. Love to you, Dustin.

(I wish I were the WTC is an insatiable bottom poster, but I was without any witticisms.

The blue was so blue that day!

What really underscored the tragedy of 9/11 was when the New York Times published photographs and brief biographies of each victim over a period of weeks.

Or seeing the wall..all the photos w. bio's of some of the folk.Also, it wasn't just US citizens. Many internationals worked there as well. Some of the hardest. The undocumented who worked at WOTW, vanished. Their families back home never knew if they were alive or dead.

The remains of 1,000 victims have never been identified.

A few days ago I spent some time looking through the digital collections on the 9/11 Museum website. It's so harrowing to look at the items they were able to find amongst the rubble. Like, damn, just seeing all the car keys (for example) that were found or their wallets. It makes one really remember that actual PEOPLE died, which seems like that has been forgotten in the national dialogue about 9/11 over the last 20 years. These were everyday normal people, who woke up one morning going about their routines the way they did every other day preceding that.

It's always the little details that get to me. I remember visiting Auschwitz and, again, seeing the personal effects (suitcases, shoes, glasses) had the same effect on me.

I have no interest in reliving 9/11

Thank you R97. That original thread is fascinating as it shows the information chaos, raw emotion, and some spot-on posters who knew a thing or two about geopolitical concerns.

These poor victims were incinerated alive. We still have no investigation into Saudi involvement. That Kashogghi journalist was dismembered in the Saudi embassy in Turkey and we still know nothing about. These Arabs have Biden by the balls too.