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|by Anonymous||reply 270||8 hours ago|
|by Anonymous||reply 1||05/31/2021|
The other thread (Part 24) is paywalled, but here's Vaughn to cheer you up!
|by Anonymous||reply 2||05/31/2021|
I thought Joy was the MSNBC poster child?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||05/31/2021|
the anti-Joy trolls are really obnoxious. Why watch her if you hate her? I'm glad she's on just to piss you off. Old racist pieces of shit, too fucking bad.
I don't like Scarborough so I don't watch him. It really is that simple.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||05/31/2021|
I'm shocked Joe Scarborough was working this morning.
It's a holiday, but he was on the air with a live show.
What a miracle!
|by Anonymous||reply 5||05/31/2021|
Who writes Joy’s tweets?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||05/31/2021|
A basic question: how many African-Americans actually watch MSNBC on the weekends?
|by Anonymous||reply 7||05/31/2021|
wow diva Lawrence working a special 2 hour shift on a holiday and at a much earlier time! Shocked
|by Anonymous||reply 8||05/31/2021|
Ari & Chris & Nicolle worked Friday, so think they all trade off on holidays.
Of course Rachel & Brian are off both days.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||05/31/2021|
Joy doesn’t comment that black men are abusing asian women in anti-asian attacks. She only condones the whites.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||05/31/2021|
Sometimes these shows on holidays on MSNBC are shows that they recorded earlier in the week just to show on the holiday. It is hard to tell unless some news happens that they reference or don't reference. Rather deceptive of MSNBC.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||05/31/2021|
Vaughn Hillyard with his good friend.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||05/31/2021|
I don't trust Vaughn's "friend."
He looks shifty.
I think he's going to break Vaughn's heart.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||05/31/2021|
SAY THAT r4!
|by Anonymous||reply 14||05/31/2021|
[quote] I don't trust Vaughn's "friend."
I agree, R13.
He looks like a groupie, who's just using Vaughn because he's famous.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||05/31/2021|
R9 Brian had a 2 hour show after Lawrence
Rachel honestly deserves her special treatment. She's by far the highest rated show on the network and they also have her on the panel for all elections or important speeches
|by Anonymous||reply 16||05/31/2021|
[quote] Sometimes these shows on holidays on MSNBC are shows that they recorded earlier in the week just to show on the holiday.
That's true, but Lawrence's 2-hour Memorial Day show was indeed live (mentioned breaking news from the holiday). I was surprised. I didn't see Brian's show, but I assume it was live too.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||05/31/2021|
Ugh Jake Sherman 💩
|by Anonymous||reply 18||06/01/2021|
Morning Joe was live yesterday as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||06/01/2021|
3 people at the table
Getting back to normal
|by Anonymous||reply 20||06/01/2021|
Where is Joe in the studio?
If the science says kids should be back at school-Joe & Mika should be at 30 Rock.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||06/01/2021|
R21 I'm not R20, but I think they just meant that Joe is at work.
He did a live show on Monday (the holiday) which is surprising, because he normally has the holiday off.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||06/01/2021|
The wifey said she and Joe would be back in the NYC studio tomorrow.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||06/01/2021|
[quote] The wifey said she and Joe would be back in the NYC studio tomorrow.
What a pussy he is, hiding at home.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||06/01/2021|
Ugh Jason Johnson 💩
|by Anonymous||reply 25||06/01/2021|
I usually am ok with JJ, R25, unless he goes off on some Millennial snowflakey bullshit like he did during the 2020 Democratic primary season.
But what he just said on Nicolle's show was just beyond ignorant: "To be honest, I don't even CARE about *snort* INFRASTRUCTURE. Joe Biden just doesn't GET it."
Pffft. The Biden Administration can work on infrastructure AND a new voting rights bill. Yes, Jason, at the same time.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||06/01/2021|
Claire McCaskill demonstrated on Nicolle's show why the Democrats will probably lose the House and Senate in 2022. Democrats have got to stop the "when they go low, we go high" crap. Get rid of the damn filibuster if they can't change its structure.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||06/01/2021|
Nicolle has been having Jason on her show alot lately.
Joy is probably going to be on aggressive fire tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||06/01/2021|
As I live and breathe- Chris Matthews!
|by Anonymous||reply 29||06/01/2021|
Chris Matthews acquitted himself well! Great to see back and watch he and Joy try not to constantly interrupt each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||06/01/2021|
Oh God! WHY? WHHHY? I don’t miss Chris Matthew’s ugly block head ass at all!
|by Anonymous||reply 31||06/01/2021|
Whose show is Chris Matthews on?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||06/01/2021|
Joy’s, R32. They’re old friends, they go way back.
Is Vaughan really... one of us?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||06/01/2021|
[quote]Whose show is Chris Matthews on?
Joy Reid. It was two blowhards trying to yell over each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||06/01/2021|
No, he isn't, R33. But here on DL, cute twink = homo.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||06/01/2021|
Yep R34. It sure was.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||06/01/2021|
Joy really did STFU tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||06/01/2021|
R37, if that was Chris Matthews' doing, I applaud him.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||06/01/2021|
I happened to catch Johnathan Lemire filling in for Kasie Hunt yesterday morning, did anyone else?
It looked like it was indeed Way Too Early for that man after a holiday....
|by Anonymous||reply 39||06/01/2021|
R20, did we have a round table anywhere else across the broadcast? *rolling eyes at MJ*
|by Anonymous||reply 40||06/01/2021|
[quote] if that was Chris Matthews' doing, I applaud him.
I noticed the beatch who got him fired was on a panel segment last week. Surprised she had the nerve to show her face. Whatever you think of Mathews, he deserved better. She was made uncomfortable on 3 occasions by his inappropriate and entirely tame compliments on her appearance, never once did she confront him like an adult, but chose to slime him publicly on social media. It's called Coward culture.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||06/02/2021|
5 people at the table
|by Anonymous||reply 42||06/02/2021|
Does "Smirky" Lemire own a comb?
|by Anonymous||reply 43||06/02/2021|
Laura Bassett was on Ari’s show.
These millenials can’t handle anything, I’ve had bosses say worse to me-look at Naomi O right now. These kids cry the minute something uncomfortable happens to them.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||06/02/2021|
Lemire is pretty bad on Way Too Early. He’s not host material.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||06/02/2021|
[quote] I noticed the beatch who got him fired was on a panel segment last week
Who got Chris Matthews fired?
I wasn't paying attention at the time.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||06/02/2021|
Lemire has been HOSTING? Isn’t he an AP writer? Burning the candle at both ends...
|by Anonymous||reply 47||06/02/2021|
Jonathan has questionable anal hygiene
|by Anonymous||reply 48||06/02/2021|
Good old Smirky Lemire...
|by Anonymous||reply 49||06/02/2021|
I think he’s CUTE
|by Anonymous||reply 50||06/02/2021|
Jason Johnson was a fucking psycho yesterday on Nicolle’s show. He is never satisfied or happy.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||06/02/2021|
[quote] Jonathan has questionable anal hygiene
I will have to agree with you, Anne E. Lingus.
Any guy who doesn't even have the motivation to comb his hair properly, surely doesn't wipe his own ass properly.
It's just a mark of laziness.
No thank you!
|by Anonymous||reply 52||06/02/2021|
[quote]Does "Smirky" Lemire own a comb?
It would seem not, R43. Years ago I posted on an early MSNBC thread that Lemire reminded me of hot ginger pornstar Connor Maguire.
No more. The more he appears on the various MSNBC shows, the more annoying he gets in an Ari Melber way--trying way too hard to get a corny jokey line across.
I miss the old Lemire posted in front of his Oliver Twist-esque red brick pandemic wall.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||06/02/2021|
You are so right r51. He’s always bitching and whining and looking at things with his glass half empty ass. I bet he’s one bitchy bottom.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||06/02/2021|
[quote] Lemire has been HOSTING? Isn’t he an AP writer? Burning the candle at both ends...
I think Lemire has a healthy perspective on himself. He can't read the prompter worth shit - he puts emphasis on every preposition & conjunction to get through the sentence. And his hair is now a big improvement on the lame ChuckTodd cut that he used to wear. Anyway aren't there people on set who's job it is to minimize bad hair?
|by Anonymous||reply 55||06/02/2021|
Jason was congratulating himself for going off on Nicole's show. What did he say?
|by Anonymous||reply 56||06/02/2021|
He congratulated himself for finding a new and better enema r56
|by Anonymous||reply 57||06/02/2021|
DUMP Joy and the Johnsons!
|by Anonymous||reply 58||06/02/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 59||06/02/2021|
Obviously Chris Matthew has vision problems.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||06/02/2021|
Jason Johnson flipped out after Joe Biden’s speech yesterday, to the point where Kimberly Atkins Stohr gently but firmly pushed back. Claire McCaskill and Nicolle were caught off guard by the suggestion that the President speaking clearly about Tulsa massacre was its own form of nice white supremacism. Johnson’s response is always going to be outrage.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||06/02/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 62||06/02/2021|
Is Rachel on fire tonight, R62?
|by Anonymous||reply 63||06/02/2021|
Jason Johnson must get paid by the sputter, since that's the only way he ever communicates.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||06/02/2021|
Vaughn Hillyard is gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||06/02/2021|
Can someone please tell me why MSNBC management keeps Jason Johnson? Just what does he bring to any discussion other than a big fat unattractive man who is a racist? He is an angry imbecile.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||06/02/2021|
Remember when you liked Jason Johnson? I think it was before I followed him on twitter. He's a damaged guy in an empty apartment who spent his childhood with Marvel comics, sitcoms and video games. His good buddy is Tiffany. I wonder if he's out of the closet.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||06/02/2021|
You can just tell he is a guy in his 40s who has never had a significant other.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||06/02/2021|
Chris Matthews was on Morning Joe earlier.
Is he making the rounds?
Is Rachel's show next?
|by Anonymous||reply 69||06/03/2021|
The only time Chris Matthews "made the rounds" in the past, was when he was promoting his book.
Does he have anything coming out soon?
|by Anonymous||reply 70||06/03/2021|
Yeah, he has a book out.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||06/03/2021|
I think Mika handed herself rather well in her interview with Nancy Pelosi today. There may be a Part 2 tomorrow. Nancy certainly was complimentary to Mika.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||06/03/2021|
Joy's show is basically an hour-long Race rant.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||06/03/2021|
It really is. Now that Trump is gone, we can only worry so much about Q-Anon lunacy, so we need to panic about something else—and it might as well be race.
And I say that as someone who truly was panicked about Trump for most of 2016-20.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||06/03/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 75||06/03/2021|
[quote] Jason Johnson must get paid by the sputter, since that's the only way he ever communicates.
Jason needs a wake up call. They should book him next to the silver-tongued silver fox Jelani Cobb, and the error of his ways will become readily apparent, to himself as well as to management.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||06/03/2021|
Clint Watts is on Nicolle's show!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 77||06/04/2021|
Jason is subbing for Ari and has Jelani Cobb on tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||06/04/2021|
Oh Jason Johnson in for Ari, half of DL will be triggered.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||06/04/2021|
Jelani Cobb is so hot! He must be gay, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 80||06/04/2021|
I'm not triggered by Jason Johnson, just encouraged to move to CNN.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||06/04/2021|
I've always thought that Garrett Haake is such a handsome sexy guy - but he seemed to have serious dark circles under his eyes. It took me a while to realize that it's not darkened skin, rather his eyeballs protrude enough that part of his lower lids are actually in shadow. I know I must have seen this in others, but I can't name when.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||06/04/2021|
Garrett Halle is awkward looking and not sexy.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||06/04/2021|
Awkward stirs my shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||06/04/2021|
Garrett Haake is adorably sexy but not conventionally handsome. I'm happy to take him if you all don't want him.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||06/04/2021|
Garrett Haake had a big, elaborate wedding when he married Sara Murray from CNN in 2017. But the marriage was incredibly short-lived.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||06/04/2021|
What was the story with Garrett Haake's marriage?
They had a huge wedding but within a year he was showing off other women on his Instagram. Radio silence on a divorce announcement.
Did they "wait until marriage," and Sara found out that Garrett had a peanut in his pants?
|by Anonymous||reply 87||06/04/2021|
Garrett couldn’t get it up for a woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||06/04/2021|
This isn't about you, Vaughn/R88.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||06/04/2021|
Watched a little of Tiffany this am. She seems calmer but the content is still this week in racism. Fine. How about one hour a week on environmental news? Also, how about a program on solutions communities have come up to deal with systemic problems? It seems so lame to whip people up and then say "write your congressman." I have. I do. He's liberal.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||06/05/2021|
[quote] Also, how about a program on solutions communities have come up to deal with systemic problems?
With MSNBC (and CNN and most of the other news outlets), it's a constant barrage of "the Republicans are destroying America" and "racism is destroying America," which is very true, but no discussion of what anyone other than members of Congress should do about it. No discussion of real people or real programs in real communities that are making a difference. No focus on potential solutions other than the latest bills before Congress. A steady diet of MSNBC would convince you there are only three types of people who live in the U.S.: the president, the members of Congress, and political pundits.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||06/05/2021|
Anyone who’s on a steady diet of MSNBC these days is a masochist. I can barely make it through one hour.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||06/05/2021|
^^ I'm on an intermittent fast.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||06/06/2021|
Chasten Buttigieg on Morning Joe right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||06/07/2021|
Video of Chasten on The Sunday Show with Jonathan Capehart.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||06/07/2021|
Jake Sherman 💩
|by Anonymous||reply 96||06/07/2021|
Hate Jake Sherman all you want but he just handed Matthew Dowd his ass on a platter.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||06/07/2021|
[quote] no discussion of what anyone other than members of Congress should do about it. No discussion of real people or real programs in real communities that are making a difference.
When you have one party, the Republicans, in love with a cult leader, and these party members refuse acknowledge what is obviously the truth and would prefer to embrace what their cult leader tells them over the truth there really isn't much you can do about it, the Republicans are too scared of their voters and their voters are fucking nuts.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||06/07/2021|
Yes he did R97. And Claire backed Jake in disagreeing with blowhard Dowd
|by Anonymous||reply 99||06/07/2021|
[quote] Chasten Buttigieg on Morning Joe right now.
What could the First Lady of Transportation really have to say?
|by Anonymous||reply 100||06/07/2021|
Ari loves Juanita!
|by Anonymous||reply 101||06/07/2021|
Juanita is a living, breathing makeup counter.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||06/07/2021|
Everyone should love Juanita. She always looks fantastic/stunning, and she gives great facial reactions while others are speaking.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||06/07/2021|
[quote] What could the First Lady of Transportation really have to say?
Chasten's book is out in paperback now "I Have Something to Tell You"
I am sure you will be wanting to pick up a copy R100
|by Anonymous||reply 104||06/07/2021|
Details r97! What was the discussion about?
|by Anonymous||reply 105||06/07/2021|
Juanita has the lips that Olivia Nuzzi in all her pursed posing can only dream of. And I like Olivia Nuzzi.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||06/07/2021|
Who was more beautiful sans studio hair, makeup and lighting benefit Joyce Vance or Barb McQuade? I adore both fierce ladies.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||06/07/2021|
The answer is Jill Wine-Banks, r107.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||06/07/2021|
[quote] Details [R97]! What was the discussion about?
MY retelling won't do it justice, I looked for a video clip but couldn't find one maybe there will be one up tomorrow, Matthew Dowd was going on about how to flip Joe Manchin on the voting rights bill and the filibuster. I am paraphrasing here, Jake Sherman basically told him he was nuts, Machin had said he wasn't changing his mind had repeatedly said he wouldn't and Jake said that anyone who thought differently didn't know what they were talking about. All the the time Jake was going on about this Claire McCaskill was shaking her head in agreement and when they went to Claire again she said Jake is right. Nicolle didn't go back to Matthew Dowd to allow him to try to refute what Jake had said.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||06/07/2021|
Matthew Dowd was the chief strategist for bush’s reelection campaign. It’s pathetic that msnbc has become the network of former bush staffers lecturing all of us. No wonder their ratings are in the toilet
|by Anonymous||reply 110||06/07/2021|
Trust me, you don't want to go down in Matthew Dowd's root cellar.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||06/08/2021|
So I see Joe and Mika are back in their Florida home studio after only one week in New York MSNBC studio. As much as I enjoy the show and its guests, these two are such phonies. I am so tired of him talking about his hillbilly bigoted friends and family idolizing Trump and how concerned he is about their views, Move on and accept the fact you are a product of white supremacists and it is up to him to rise above the bigotry. I will say that Mika at times has basically said some of his family is not welcome in their home if she has anything to say about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||06/08/2021|
R112 after the way Trump trashed Mika, Joe is still letting pro-Trump people into his life? wow
|by Anonymous||reply 113||06/08/2021|
Better yet: after Trump called him a murderer, Joe is still letting pro-Trump people in his life?
|by Anonymous||reply 114||06/08/2021|
I miss Jill Wine-Banks. No more iconic duo than her nodding along, finding her pin light while Nicolle called Bill Barr hideous over and over.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||06/08/2021|
Oh FFS Joy is now Pro-Mexico!
|by Anonymous||reply 116||06/08/2021|
Good for Joy.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||06/08/2021|
I know this is off topic, but can anyone tell me what it means if you search for a thread, find it, click on it, and nothing appears. Does this mean the powers that be have removed said thread?…
|by Anonymous||reply 118||06/08/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 119||06/08/2021|
AOC is anti-semetic.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||06/08/2021|
AOC will cause damage to the Democrats in the 2022 races. Her bull riles many people.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||06/08/2021|
i’m a nyc gurl and i hate this witch aoc.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||06/08/2021|
Looks like Garrett Haake is getting married again. He just Instagrammed something implying he's engaged.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||06/08/2021|
Garrett's new fiancee looks just like his former wife, short and blonde.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||06/08/2021|
Rachel just did a fantastic A block exposing Merrill Garland as Republican scum who should not have been nominated for Attorney General. He’s not interested in cleaning up the Trump DOJ and in fact actually seems to like some of the stuff they did. He’s also completely absent on voting rights. A scary but important report from Rachel.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||06/08/2021|
Rachel truly was on fire in that segment, r125, but you're putting words in her mouth. She only strongly implied all that :) But I believe it. I'd even go so far as to suggest Garland's being influenced by Trump as we live and breathe. After all, Trump never had anything against the guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||06/08/2021|
Lawrence O'Donnell tonight said he was going to have two civil rights leader who met with Joe Machin today as guests, I was expecting Al Sharpton because I think Sharpton has been on every MSNBC show today talking about his meeting with Machin, but O'Donnell had two other civil rights leaders which made me think, I don't think I have ever seen Al Sharpton on The Last Word. Anyone know if there are bad feelings between these two men?
|by Anonymous||reply 127||06/08/2021|
Speaking of Rachel's show, what was up with Barbara McQuade's blotchy face?
|by Anonymous||reply 128||06/08/2021|
Lawrence O’Donnell worked for Daniel Moynihan. Didn’t Sharpton threaten to primary him?
|by Anonymous||reply 129||06/08/2021|
submitted without context
|by Anonymous||reply 130||06/09/2021|
[quote] Speaking of Rachel's show, what was up with Barbara McQuade's blotchy face?
They're known as freckles.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||06/09/2021|
Rachael, Nicolle, Brian, Mika, Joe, Ari=all can’t get their asses back to a studio.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||06/09/2021|
And none of them has a surname, poor babies.
PS: Ms. Maddow's first name is spelled Rachel.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||06/09/2021|
[quote]They're known as freckles.
I've seen her quite a number of times on TV in the past, but her skin never looked like it did last night.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||06/09/2021|
I like that zoom allows access to experts who are not available to be in studio. It is a superior format.
Morning Joe has devolved into an old boy circle jerk in studio.
Kasie Hunt is everyone's tomboy sister. I feel sorry for Mika.
If I were Dr. Glaude, I would kick Scarborough in the cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||06/09/2021|
[quote] Who was more beautiful sans studio hair, makeup and lighting benefit Joyce Vance or Barb McQuade? I adore both fierce ladies.
Agree. For anyone who hasn't already listened, I recommend the episodes of Chuck Rosenberg podcast The Oath, that he devotes to each, their lives and careers. Only increased my appreciation for them.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||06/09/2021|
Barbara McQuade seems to have a touch of rosacea, as do I. Heat can make it flare. Leave us alone.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||06/09/2021|
Katty just called Boris Johnson "Boris Yeltsin."
|by Anonymous||reply 138||06/10/2021|
At least she didn't call him Boris Badenov.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||06/10/2021|
Oh look, Jason has a shelfful of Funko Pop! collectable figurines. He's obviously proud of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||06/10/2021|
Nicolle has been cackling and laughing out loud at inappropriate moments all week. She treats subjects that affect her personally (e.g. motherhood and the plight of the professional woman) with utmost solemnity, everyone else's travails not so much. I used to ascribe it to a nervous tic, but now I think it's straight white female republican indifference.
Sorry, MSNBC, but I find myself getting better acquainted with the CNN lineup lately.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||06/10/2021|
Joe has such a huge frankenstein head and tiny slit eyes. Not to mention a huge bulbous nose. He's so odd looking and does so much ranting, I've stopped watching the morning show. I used to go to bed with MSNBC on so I'd wake up to Morning Joe. No longer. Joe's yelling is jarring first thing before I've had my coffee.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||06/10/2021|
[quote] Looks like Garrett Haake is getting married again. He just Instagrammed something implying he's engaged.
Garrett won't ever be happy until he's with a man.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||06/10/2021|
Rachel opens with saying she once again is throwing out her pre-planned show given the news about Trump DOJ spying on Schiff breaking tonight
|by Anonymous||reply 144||06/10/2021|
R144 She's going to flip her wig.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||06/10/2021|
[quote] Rachel opens with saying she once again is throwing out her pre-planned show given the news about Trump DOJ spying on Schiff breaking tonight
You'd think by now Rachel would understand how TV news works. News happens, and news shows adjust to incorporate the breaking news. That's how it's worked on every news show since the early days of TV. Imagine if Walter Cronkite had begun one of his newscasts by saying, "There's been a lot of news today, so we had to revise our scripts several times."
|by Anonymous||reply 146||06/10/2021|
You would think R146. She is so scripted that she has a huge problem when she had to go ad hoc.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||06/10/2021|
^^ and yet she does it successfully each time ^^
|by Anonymous||reply 148||06/10/2021|
The problem is that they're obviously getting a memo of the issues to flog for the day and they recycle the same guests. Boring. Same old shit. It's really irritating to hear nonentities like Ali Vitale adopt a worldly air and spit out whatever the conventional wisdom is about some stupid who's up, who's down controversy. They need better correspondents, more variety, deeper reporting and to spend more money.. I used to have it on all day and now I don't go near it.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||06/10/2021|
Indeed, R148, and it amazes me how quickly she and her team are able to pivot.
R146 and R147, Rachel is not the only one who points out how breaking news of the day has altered/supplanted their planned program; and comparing her show to Walter Cronkite's (or anyone's) nightly news broadcast is a perfect example of the apples/oranges idiom.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||06/10/2021|
[quote] Rachel is not the only one who points out how breaking news of the day has altered/supplanted their planned program
Who else does it?
And why does Rachel feel the need to do it all the time? Is it because she wants our sympathy ("OMG! Poor Rachel had to scrap everything because of breaking news"). Or is it as an excuse in case the show goes poorly ("That wasn't a very good show tonight, but I can understand because poor Rachel had to scrap everything for breaking news.").
[quote] it amazes me how quickly she and her team are able to pivot.'
Yes, they do a fine job pivoting, but IT'S THEIR JOB. If you want to work in TV news, you need to be able to pivot when there's actual news. Reporters, editors and anchors at countless other news organizations across the country do it every single day. There's nothing special or heroic about Rachel.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||06/10/2021|
Jason Johnson is so angry, he's a pressure cooker ready to explode. He's completely consumed with race, even though he's a successful black man. He and Joy are going to run MSNBC into the ground. The non-stop shrieking about race is tedious and exhausting.
They've got to get some different talking heads. And Morning Joe would be better sans Joe. I'd prefer Willie and Mika to run it full time. Better yet, give Willie a prime time show.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||06/10/2021|
And what was the story that got bumped to the B Block? A long play on language to illustrate how Biden’s trip didn’t go as planned. I suppose she might have gotten to the large and important issues facing Biden in Europe, but she lost me before that might have happened.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||06/10/2021|
[quote]He's completely consumed with race, even though he's a successful black man.
You can't be serious, R152.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||06/10/2021|
Jason Johnson concealed some of his anger to become a regular at MSNBC but now it's oozing out of him. If you can predict what someone is going to say before they say it, why listen to them? He's good buddies with Tiffany Cross and they seem to be in the same place--we had to fight for everything we've gotten while everything is handed to these white mediocrities. They're both kind of damaged people. and I don't know enough about them to speculate why but they seem to have no lives apart on-screen punditry.
I had a horrible homelife and learned a long time ago--you may have a just grievance and a valid reason to be angry but that's not going to draw people to you or justify your acting like an asshole. If I say it's unpleasant to listen to his rage, I'm merely confirming what he already thinks aboutl white people. We all suck. (Read his twitter feed.)
Ali Velshi is one angry guy, too. A friend had a very unpleasant email exchange with him. An incredible talent, tho.
Shaquille Brewster, is a living doll.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||06/10/2021|
At least Velshi does have the ability to explain and teach about complex matters like economics, which is not easy for viewers to find on TV news shows. I've never learned anything from Johnson except that he's pissed off again today.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||06/10/2021|
[quote]Or is it as an excuse in case the show goes poorly
But it doesn't
|by Anonymous||reply 157||06/11/2021|
That's why I like Stephanie. I actually DO get smarter.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||06/11/2021|
Was Joe "on fire" this morning?
I actually can't tell when Joe is "on fire" or "frothing at the mouth" when he goes on his rants.
He seems bi-polar.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||06/11/2021|
Rachel actually had to have TWO guests on the first 20 minutes (Schiff and the NYT reporter) to focus on the DOJ surveillance of Schiff and Swalwell. She's happiest spending that time alone reading out transcripts of newsworthy events that we already read 6 hours before.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||06/11/2021|
That's why people get bored with Rachel, R160.
She is an academic and a "policy wonk."
What bores other people to death, is the sort of thing that she likes.
Her producers have to find a way to change her personal style into something more palatable for the general public.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||06/11/2021|
I have to add that my dad is the straightest of straight men, and he absolutely loves Rachel Maddow.
He calls her "my girl." As in, "there's my girl!"
She would probably hate it and call him misogynistic, but I truly think he means it in the most flattering way that an old-school straight guy could possibly mean it.
It's actually a huge compliment.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||06/11/2021|
[quote] I have to add that my dad is the straightest of straight men
Or so he would have you believe.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||06/11/2021|
Straight men can love lesbians, R163.
I'm not even sure if he realizes that Rachel is a lesbian... lol.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||06/11/2021|
"Rachel actually had to have TWO guests on the first 20 minutes (Schiff and the NYT reporter) "
Of course, Michael Schmidt isn't just any old NYT reporter, he's Nicolle Wallace's (much younger) lover.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||06/11/2021|
I love Rachel. She has topics that stick. I want to know what the Agriculture Dept scientists are doing now that Biden is prez. Did they return to DC?
And has it ever been disclosed what ban was being fined for not providing Trump money laundering info?
|by Anonymous||reply 166||06/11/2021|
When shit is going on her viewership spikes because many don't read and she's still one of the best at explaining stuff. Then it's back to the regular diet of in-the-weeds lower profile stories, which can be a slog for both the informed as well as the uninterested. Still I think her advocacy is valuable, and spotlighting important news that might otherwise get lost.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||06/11/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 168||06/11/2021|
Joy has Jason Johnson on, and he's angry and yelling.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||06/11/2021|
r169, what else is new. Truly a bossy bottom.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||06/11/2021|
The return of Chris Matthews (as a guest pundit)!
|by Anonymous||reply 171||06/11/2021|
R171 - I like Chris Matthews and am glad he's at least making the rounds hawking his book. I really enjoyed Hard Ball and miss the high pressure atmosphere of his former show even though he could be annoying. He is a bottomless well of political knowledge and explains things in such a way that even a novice like me has learned a great deal. I do hope he continues to appear on MSNBC beyond peddling his latest book. Joy had him on the other evening and it was a treat to watch him.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||Last Saturday at 9:55 AM|
There's a lot less saliva flying around MSNBC now that Matthews is retired.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||Last Saturday at 10:11 AM|
[quote] I really enjoyed Hard Ball
Rofl. His show was called Hardball.
What you're talking about, is something completely different!
|by Anonymous||reply 174||Last Saturday at 11:02 AM|
Joy owes Chris big.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||Last Saturday at 2:20 PM|
Michael Schmidt looks like he started working out and got buff since dating Nicolle.
She needs a man, not a little boy.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||Last Saturday at 11:04 PM|
Biden’s Press Conference in Europe...looking very good, looking coherent, looking Presidential. 👍🏾
|by Anonymous||reply 177||Last Sunday at 6:19 AM|
I've been waiting for Brian Sims' appearance on Jonathan Capeheart today but 1 hour and 15 minutes later, not yet.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||Last Sunday at 7:16 AM|
I love Alex Witt on the weekends. She has such a calming and positive energy about her. So much better than Thomas Roberts, who gave off such a nervous and negative energy that I could feel it through my TV screen.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||Last Sunday at 7:59 AM|
Did Andrea Mitchell get a plastic touch up?
She is looking like a cat face.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||Last Sunday at 10:16 AM|
[quote] Joy has Jason Johnson on, and he's angry and yelling.
I'm guessing that bitter queen hasn't been fucked in over two decades.
No wonder she's so angry!
|by Anonymous||reply 181||Last Sunday at 10:41 AM|
So now Yasmin Vessoughian has a show called "Yasmin Vessoughian Reports."
Very saavy. Very VERY saavy.
She's positioning herself to take the place of "Andrea Mitchell Reports," when Andrea Mitchell is inevitably taken off the air.
I guess it wouldn't hurt. They both have the same personality, except that Andrea seems much nicer.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||Last Sunday at 10:43 AM|
[quote] So now Yasmin Vessoughian has a show called "Yasmin Vessoughian Reports."
It's not a new or special show. They now do that with all of the news anchors (the ones who are more news readers, as opposed to the opinionated prime time "personalities.")
There's "Alex Witt Reports," "Stephanie Ruhle Reports," "Hallie Jackson Reports," "Craig Melvin Reports," "Katy Tur Reports," etc. That's their new branding. (I think they used to just call it "MSNBC Live.")
|by Anonymous||reply 183||Last Sunday at 10:50 AM|
Ah, thanks R183.
Never knew that.
Just thought that Yasmin was being thirsty.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||Last Sunday at 10:51 AM|
Yasmin talks out of one-side of her mouth.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||Last Sunday at 12:09 PM|
[quote]"Hallie Jackson Reports"
Should be called "Hallie Jackson's Windmill Hands"
|by Anonymous||reply 186||Last Sunday at 12:35 PM|
Should be "Katy Tur Whines and Complains"
|by Anonymous||reply 187||Last Sunday at 12:36 PM|
Andrea Mitchell needs to FUCKING RETIRE! Damn! Listening to her verbal stumbling is so annoying.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||Last Sunday at 12:46 PM|
Didn't Andrea have that stumbling style even as a young reporter?
|by Anonymous||reply 189||Last Sunday at 3:30 PM|
R189 No and she was among the best.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||Last Sunday at 4:10 PM|
I don't know why you all have such a problem with Andrea.
I think she does a very fine job.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||Last Sunday at 7:13 PM|
Which MSNBC anchors DON'T they have a problem with on this thread? Stephanie Ruhle seems to get the least hate though she doesn't necessarily get a lot of love.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||Last Sunday at 7:16 PM|
R192 the younger straight white males are the only ones the chronic complainers here seem to worship. Truly bizarre but you know there's sadly a lot of misogyny and racism as well as self-hating homophobia on this board
|by Anonymous||reply 193||Last Sunday at 7:21 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 194||Last Sunday at 7:31 PM|
Wajahat Ali is on the Mehdi Hasan show right now, and I am SO turned on!
I don't say this often, but Wajahat is ON FIRE!!!
He's so angry!
|by Anonymous||reply 195||Last Sunday at 8:00 PM|
Wajahat is 6'2 and 40 years old, and full of righteous anger!
My mussy is on fire!
|by Anonymous||reply 196||Last Sunday at 8:02 PM|
I'm so disappointed in Keir Simmons.
Interviewing Putin, and giving that lying, murderous thief a platform.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||Last Monday at 11:42 AM|
R197, I don't view it as giving Putin a platform, since he's already got that -- he's hardly an obscure figure worldwide. I see it as giving him enough rope to hang himself, which he did -- evasive to a fault, obviously insincere liar. Seeing and hearing him left no doubt (if anyone has been wondering) what kind of man he is and where he stands.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||Last Monday at 11:50 AM|
Putin's interview makes Trump look worse
but it also is a guaranteed ratings win for NBC
|by Anonymous||reply 199||Last Monday at 11:51 AM|
What does Mike Schmidt wear poolside or at the beach?
|by Anonymous||reply 200||Last Monday at 1:21 PM|
Mike Schmidt and Jeremy Bash look slimmer in the face. Nicole's studio lighting washes her out.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||Last Monday at 1:38 PM|
[quote]Putin's interview makes Trump look worse
Big case of Putin moonface. Health problems?
|by Anonymous||reply 202||Last Monday at 1:41 PM|
[quote]Nicole's studio lighting washes her out.
Her limp, lifeless hair isn’t doing her any favors either.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||Last Monday at 2:43 PM|
Is NBC's Miguel Almaguer family? He is 44 and never married.
It is getting damn near impossible to find links that DL will accept anymore and link to.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||Last Monday at 2:52 PM|
[quote]Her limp, lifeless hair isn’t doing her any favors either.
Who told her Rapunzel hair suits anyone over 25?
|by Anonymous||reply 205||Last Monday at 3:38 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 206||Last Monday at 4:09 PM|
Pretty sure he is, R204. On his Instagram, someone is obviously taking casual pictures of him at home and apparently lives there as well, but never appears in any of the pictures themselves or is mentioned.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||Last Monday at 6:31 PM|
[quote] Mike Schmidt and Jeremy Bash look slimmer in the face. Nicole's studio lighting washes her out.
Jeremy has clearly shed a few. He's also gotten some new lighting that he's been experimenting with - each appearance it's been noticeably different. He still never fails to give his best Blue Steel to camera when waiting to be introduced or asked to speak. Very very knowledgeable guy, but that pose is almost comical.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||Last Monday at 9:17 PM|
[quote] On his Instagram, someone is obviously taking casual pictures of him at home and apparently lives there as well, but never appears in any of the pictures themselves or is mentioned.
I think it's his mother.
He has casual pictures of her, as well. And she lives with him.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||Last Monday at 9:33 PM|
Here's another photo of Miguel's mom in his house.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||Last Monday at 9:34 PM|
Miguel is a "serious newsman" who likes to show off his gains by wearing short-sleeved, tight shirts on TV. Just like Anderson Cooper. Hmm.....
|by Anonymous||reply 211||Last Tuesday at 3:47 AM|
Cutie Ben Collins was just on MTP Daily.
Dolly Parton poster behind him.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||Last Tuesday at 9:15 AM|
R203 Nicole's hair is atrocious. She is too lazy to even get her roots done on the regular. She needs to go with a darker shade that requires less upkeep. Her studio lighting makes her look exhausted too. She's become so repetitive, I don't watch her that often anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||Last Tuesday at 10:16 AM|
It is time for Nicole to get back in the studio and out of her basement.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||Last Tuesday at 2:09 PM|
Good Lord. WTF is Joy wearing??
|by Anonymous||reply 215||Last Tuesday at 3:01 PM|
David Muir is liking his pics so him being family might not be too far off.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||Last Tuesday at 3:24 PM|
All these peeps need to get back-NYC is open!
Mila & Joe went back for like 1 day.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||Last Tuesday at 3:26 PM|
I noticed this morning that if Mika sat any closer to Joe she would have been in his lap.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||Last Tuesday at 3:35 PM|
[quote] David Muir is liking his pics so him being family might not be too far off.
But David isn't out, either!
So how can we assume that either of them are gay, when neither of them admit it??
|by Anonymous||reply 219||Last Tuesday at 3:37 PM|
Rachel should be back in her 30 Rock studio tonight.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||Last Tuesday at 3:38 PM|
Chris Hayes just mispronounced his own name.
[quote] Hello I am Chris Hessss.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||Last Tuesday at 4:03 PM|
[quote] Hello I am Chris Hessss
Maybe he's feeling German today.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||Last Tuesday at 4:04 PM|
Agree but David lives with a man @ his West Village Brownstone. Just a little scared to admit that he likes peen.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||Last Tuesday at 4:22 PM|
[quote] David lives with a man @ his West Village Brownstone
Does he really???
I had no idea.
Any photos? Link? Proof?
|by Anonymous||reply 224||Last Tuesday at 4:25 PM|
If you google-David’s apartment listed that he lives with his boyfriend/ex-boyfriend Kyle Cartwright Lee.
Rumors are they might be on the outs. David apparently funds his boyfriend’s lifestyle & over the relationship.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||Last Tuesday at 4:41 PM|
[quote]It is time for Nicole to get back in the studio and out of her basement.
NicoLLe is a single parent and childcare isn't exactly easy to come by right now. I think people can cut her some slack.
What's with the weird hobby horsing about getting everyone back in the studio? It's not like they're coming over to your house for lunch, it's all on the box in your living room regardless of where they are.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||Last Tuesday at 10:50 PM|
[quote]What's with the weird hobby horsing about getting everyone back in the studio?
Because at least in the studio a professional could be dealing with her hair. Right now, MSNBC is just pretending like people can’t see this mess:
|by Anonymous||reply 227||Last Wednesday at 1:09 AM|
Willie Geist looks amazingly hot today.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||Last Wednesday at 4:49 AM|
Funny moment on Nicole last night. She asked the guy running for governor of Arkansas what his campaign was going to be about and just then his campaign sign fell off the wall. How are you going to be governor if you don’t know how to use tape?
|by Anonymous||reply 229||Last Wednesday at 9:20 AM|
Jonathan Lemire (the "Hero of Helsinki") is given the honor of first question to President Biden following his summit with Putin.
Is there a Geneva Summit thread?
|by Anonymous||reply 230||Last Wednesday at 9:37 AM|
Nicolle is too serious a journalist to care about hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||Last Wednesday at 10:48 AM|
I enjoy Keir Simmons reporting and interviews. Putin is such a sleazebag.
|by Anonymous||reply 232||Last Wednesday at 1:16 PM|
[quote]NicoLLe is a single parent and childcare isn't exactly easy to come by right now.
Give me a break with the domestic labor shortage woes of the well connected and well paid professionals. It's not like she's a fast food joint paying sub minimum wage.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM|
You can be sure that even if Nicolle is home 24/7 she still has childcare and household help.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||Last Wednesday at 2:56 PM|
Isn't her son 10 years old by now? Can't he stay by himself in the afternoons?
|by Anonymous||reply 235||Last Wednesday at 3:25 PM|
Nicolle can afford a fucking nanny.
WTF is Mike Schmidt doing from 4-6?
|by Anonymous||reply 236||Last Wednesday at 3:40 PM|
[quote] WTF is Mike Schmidt doing from 4-6?
Spending time with his other girlfriend.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||Last Wednesday at 3:41 PM|
NBC hottie Gadi Swartz and his wife welcome a new baby.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||Last Wednesday at 4:01 PM|
Yeah Yeah Yeah I know I misspelled Schwartz.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||Last Wednesday at 4:02 PM|
Nicolle Wallace's hair was cute when she was on "The View" -- she'd look younger and more chic with shorter (neater) hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||Last Wednesday at 4:03 PM|
Of course the elderly shut-ins of Datalounge think they know how to manage Nicolle's life better than her. She'll be back in the studio on NBCUniversal's timetable (and her own), which may or may not be at a time that satisfies the reopening fetish of the bitches in this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||Last Wednesday at 4:39 PM|
R236: Would you leave your child in the care of babysitter Mike Schmidt? For the love of fashion style and good taste, NO!
|by Anonymous||reply 242||Last Wednesday at 6:24 PM|
^ (plus, guy's got that "Neighborhood Creep" vibe in spades.)
|by Anonymous||reply 243||Last Wednesday at 6:35 PM|
Julia Ioffe's back on Ari, and looking good. She's launching a new media company, as yet "secret". Looks like it will have her gimlet-eyed view on D.C.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||Last Wednesday at 7:54 PM|
Believe it or not, some parents prefer to spend time with their children even if they can afford a nanny. Shocking but true.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||a day ago|
Jonathan Lemire's hair looked a bit mussed earlier on Morning Joe.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||a day ago|
I think that's the look Jonathan is going for. It's no accident.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||a day ago|
Smirky Lemire wants to look like he just had surprise anal...and liked it.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||21 hours ago|
Is anyone "on fire" today?
|by Anonymous||reply 249||18 hours ago|
[quote] Jonathan Lemire's hair looked a bit mussed earlier on Morning Joe.
He said he only had about two hours sleep, he climbed off Air Force One at about 11 PM called into Brian Williams show, and was up and ready for Morning Joe at 6 AM plus he was probably jet lagged.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||18 hours ago|
I tuned into Rachel last night at about the 10 minute mark, and there she was--as usual, reading a New York Times article aloud that I had read earlier in the day.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||16 hours ago|
Does Wallace read DL?
Nicolle is back in the studio today w/ Claire!
|by Anonymous||reply 252||15 hours ago|
If she did read DL, R252, she'd fix her damn hair! And pronounce "asterisk" correctly.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||15 hours ago|
Nikki is probably getting a makeover today @ 30 Rock.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||15 hours ago|
Nicolle is back in the studio and her hair was clearly done by someone else.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||15 hours ago|
[quote] Rachel last night at about the 10 minute mark, and there she was--as usual, reading a New York Times article
Rachel and Susan need a kid, so Rachel can read to it.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||15 hours ago|
Cher is going to appear LIVE on Nicolle Wallace's show any minute now -- pimping the COVID vaccine.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||14 hours ago|
Cher wasn't on LIVE, just via remote, but there were no technical glitches so it was fine. She said that celebrities have an obligation to use their fame for good causes or else what's the point of being a celebrity? Big difference between her point of view and that of some other people in her position.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||14 hours ago|
Claire McCaskill will be hosting the 4 PM hour of Deadline White House tomorrow, I guess Nicolle is getting an early start to the weekend
|by Anonymous||reply 259||13 hours ago|
I wonder if this is Claire trying out hosting a show to see if she wants to have her own show?
|by Anonymous||reply 260||13 hours ago|
I wish Claire would do some cooking segments.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||13 hours ago|
I was surprised to hear that Claire will be filling in for Nicolle on Friday. I didn't think she would have any interest in anchoring. I suppose it's possible that MSNBC is trying her out to see if she deserves her own show, but she's 67 -- a little old to be breaking in to the TV hosting business.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||13 hours ago|
She is spending time with her Manny, Mike Schmidt.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||13 hours ago|
Nicolle might be going back to California for Father's Day, but your idea is more interesting. ^^^
|by Anonymous||reply 264||13 hours ago|
I like Claire McCaskill but she is already worth between $20-$60 million dollars, I would rather they give a show to someone new. Claire can go be an ambassador.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||13 hours ago|
You guys are reading too much into Claire's filling in. I suspect it's summer and everyone wants off to go on vacations. Since she's an early riser, maybe she is going to fill in for Kasie Hunt when she needs off. I doubt there is any motivation on Claire's part to do a full time show.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||12 hours ago|
Claire McCaskill lives in Missouri, which means she had to travel to NYC to fill in for Nicolle. Claire is nice but not that nice, she has a reason for doing this.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||12 hours ago|
Claire McCaskill is an UBER FRAU.
And I absolutely love her!
|by Anonymous||reply 268||12 hours ago|
Claire WILL be cradling a mug while she's reporting.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||12 hours ago|
Why couldn’t they call homegirl who filled in last time? Alex Wagner was the name, I believe?
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