...and you’re a racist honky if you don’t agree!
The Jeffersons Was Better than Friends
|by Anonymous||reply 106||Last Wednesday at 6:30 AM|
So is every single television show in history, Opie.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||05/29/2021|
Small Wonder was better than Friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||05/29/2021|
Neither one was all that great...
|by Anonymous||reply 3||05/29/2021|
I love the Jeffersons: "Wuch yu talkin' 'bout Willis!"
|by Anonymous||reply 4||05/29/2021|
The producers of the show enabled [Italic]Friends[/italic] because by the time the show was on death’s doorstep, what did they launch? [italic]Who’s the fucking Boss[/italic]. That shows just how far their standards have dropped in less than a decade. And that also shows whose side Norman Lear was really on all along.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||05/29/2021|
[quote] Small Wonder was better than Friends.
Even Jamie could manage one Black friend. And one redheaded friend, too. Two if you want to count the fat kid.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||05/29/2021|
Different strokes had the watchyou talkin bout tag line...
|by Anonymous||reply 7||05/29/2021|
Same production company. That show was all over the place in quality and it was still better than [Italic] Friends [/italic].
|by Anonymous||reply 8||05/29/2021|
The Jeffersons had a great ensemble cast. They didn't falter until they got to Alan Willis and that Help Center crap.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||05/29/2021|
I enjoyed that show, and Mother Jefferson was priceless.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||05/29/2021|
The early episodes are freakin' hilarious. Mother Jefferson was later copied and named Sophia,
|by Anonymous||reply 11||05/29/2021|
The OP is correct.
But a hell of a lot of shows were better than "The Jeffersons."
|by Anonymous||reply 12||05/29/2021|
Those were fun little one offs, revisiting those shows.
And when Marla Gibbs was at that door I SCREAMED! Fabulous.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||05/29/2021|
Who's dead, who's living from The Jeffersons?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||05/29/2021|
Wonder years was better than the Jeffersons, butthead
|by Anonymous||reply 15||05/29/2021|
Mother Jefferson (Zara Cully) was the best.The scene starting at 1:50 is one of my all time favorites.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||05/29/2021|
OP, you are a racist and transphobe.
Most Black sitcoms are stupid, offensive, unfunny, and yes, racist. This is one of the worst of the worst. The only good thing about it is that its producers went on to make [italic]Who’s the Boss[/italic], which was basically the [italic]Friends[/italic] of the 1980s. Both shows are classics and prove that Black people are not only unnecessary to the creation of classic TV, they are quite often a detriment to it. That’s why both of them got better ratings than the stupid, unfunny, offensive, and racist black situation “comedies“ the actively improved upon. All the best sitcoms have Italians in them. No exception.
My father refused to let me watch this or any other Norman Lear show. He was right. Everything Embassy produced that doesn’t have Tony Danza in it should be banned from television.
And if you disagree with me then it’s because you are prejudiced against Italians.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||05/29/2021|
Tony Danza proved once and for all that white men can do the work of the muglianos better than the muglianos can. That’s why his show was in the top 10 but all the moolie shows other than Cosby were not! Who cares if he ripped off some fat jewish moolie lezbo when she was a rethug and probably a TERF? At least Judith light supports the trans community, and I would rather watch light-skinned trans allies then dark-skinned TERF bitches any day of the week.
Nell Carter was a TERF!
|by Anonymous||reply 18||05/29/2021|
[italic]The Jeffersons[/italic] and [italic]Gimme A Break![/italic] were both transphobic truscum propaganda. They both perpetuate the lie that you have to have surgery in order to be trans. That’s transphobic. Anyone can be trans simply by declaring it.
[italic]Friends[/italic] is the best TV show ever. By casting Kathleen Turner as Chandler’s ejaculating parent, it is an admission that gay men are women and lesbians are men. That is far more progressive than any of this reactionary Norman Lear TERF propaganda ever was or ever will be. The man was and is a reactionary posing as a radical.
Fuck Norman Lear. And that golf hat of his makes him look like the world’s oldest lesbian anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||05/29/2021|
Marla Gibbs and the Jefferson/Willis kids are the only ones left. The main four, Mr. Bentley are all gone.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||05/29/2021|
R18, it’s “mulignan”.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||05/29/2021|
Sadly, no r20. Mike Evans died in 2006.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||05/29/2021|
I couldn't stand The Jeffersons cause he was such a bastard to his wife. I liked him much better on a later show - maybe Rev? - where he was on the board of some church. He had a daughter with a crush on the Rev and though he was still obnoxious he was really great with his daughter.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||05/29/2021|
It was a delightful show.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||05/29/2021|
R23 That was AMEN
|by Anonymous||reply 25||05/29/2021|
The writing was such shit - it only worked because Sherman Hemsley could make just about anything funny (and Marla Gibbs and Mama Jefferson when they would pop up). But basically he had to carry the show and that’s why it was funny and watchable - some of the time. Ridiculous that he never won an Emmy and I think was nominated only once.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||05/29/2021|
The Jeffersons was ONLY funny when Mother Jefferson ( Zara Cully) was on the show. She died in 1978 and the show was NEVER as funny without her.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||05/29/2021|
R17- You have NO taste
Who's The Boss and Friends are CLASSICS!?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||05/29/2021|
Florence was always hilarious.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||05/29/2021|
The ONLY funny line she had was the episode where the Jeffersons were going on a trip to Hawaii and Florence didn't think she'd be able to go, so she told Helen Willis - Child ,the closest I'll ever get to Hawaii is the pineapple section at the A&P!
|by Anonymous||reply 30||05/29/2021|
"My Mother the Car" was better than "Friends".
|by Anonymous||reply 31||05/29/2021|
Facts of Life was better than Friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||05/29/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 33||05/29/2021|
Yeah these shows shouldn't be compared at all. Totally different time periods.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||05/29/2021|
R28: Yes, those shows are classics. They ran for many years in the top 10. Popularity equals quality, and it proves that after all these years, we white men are the boss and always will be.
In fact, Tony Danza is the reason I became a man.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||05/29/2021|
And if there was never a [italic]Who's the Boss[/italic], there never would have been a [italic]Growing Pains[/italic], which means I'd have no show and my sister wouldn't have gotten [italic]Full House[/italic] either.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||05/29/2021|
[quote] - it only worked because Sherman Hemsley could make just about anything funny.... But basically he had to carry the show and that’s why it was funny and watchable - some of the time. Ridiculous that he never won an Emmy and I think was nominated only once.
He didn't win because he was a black homo. Such things mattered then.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||05/29/2021|
Sherman Hemsley was a notorious coke fiend, and he had an LSD lab in his basement.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||05/30/2021|
I love the people taking the OP seriously. (It's a parody of the guy who insists liking Friends is racist because Friends is supposedly a rip-off of Living Single.)
|by Anonymous||reply 39||05/30/2021|
My favorite Jeffersons line, fortyish years later, is still a simple one.
GEORGE: Florence! That's the door!
FLORENCE (uninterested) It sho is.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||05/30/2021|
NONE of those fucking "Friends" who cut a rug like this
|by Anonymous||reply 41||05/30/2021|
Every Lear sitcom was better than Friends. The shows managed to discuss political issues and teach lessons. The actors looked like real people who were allowed to age, be chubby, be short, etc... I know, in the 90s, it was cool to make fun of preachy shows and corny "very special episodes". But the Lear shows managed to be political and educational while still being funny as hell.
Friends was fluff with pretty actresses and non-threatening actors.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||05/30/2021|
R41 Get DOWN Helen Willis!
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/30/2021|
[quote] Every Lear sitcom was better than Friends
Only if you need someone else's moral values force fed to you like a French farmer fattening up a goose.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/30/2021|
R44 some of us had moralityand humanity already. Sorry it was such a burden for you to acknowledge other human beings.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/30/2021|
R41 Thats one of those clips no matter how depressed you are you can go watch that and you WILL laugh. And shit, George Jefferson would never be a straight character today.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/30/2021|
[quote] I love the people taking the OP seriously. (It's a parody of the guy who insists liking Friends is racist because Friends is supposedly a rip-off of Living Single.)
Except for the fact that the poster being parodied is right.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||05/30/2021|
This is why all criticism of Norman Lear is racist, was racist 50 years ago, and will never not be racist. Norman Lear is an Ashkenazi Jew and as such is a person of color. To call people of color racist is to be racist yourself. Being a racist requires whiteness, gentilism, and heterosexuality because racism equals prejudice plus power and only white heterosexual Gentiles have the kind of power that oppression requires. Lear could only muster one out of three.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||05/30/2021|
Anyone remember the show where George's nephew (Gary Coleman) comes to visit. This was before Coleman was on Different Strokes. It was freakin hilarious. Watching Sherman Hemsley and Coleman trying to outmug each other was hysterical.
Just thought, wasn't it odd that George Jefferson's brother never appeared on the show, despite several appearances with Weezy on All In The Family?
|by Anonymous||reply 49||05/30/2021|
I really liked Franklin Cover, who played Roxie Roker's husband. He was the real standout on The Jeffersons, imo.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||05/30/2021|
r49, here's the best line from the Gary Coleman episode:
Tom Willis enters the Jeffersons' apartment and spots Gary Coleman. He exclaims, "Who's the little man?"
Before George can reply, Gary shouts back, "That's my uncle, George!"
|by Anonymous||reply 51||05/30/2021|
But not better than The Facts Of Life
Motorcycle dykes and cerebral palsy gave it that extra edge.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/30/2021|
The teenage shows were where the action was at Embassy from the turn of the decade up until Norman Lear sold it to Coca-Cola.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/30/2021|
[italic]Maude[/italic] and [italic]Sanford and Son[/italic] are Norman Lear's best work, though I would say the biggest racist in the Norman Lear Galaxy of the Tommy Westphall Universe is Maude herself.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||05/30/2021|
[quote] I really liked Franklin Cover, who played Roxie Roker's husband. He was the real standout on The Jeffersons, imo.
He was white you racist piece of shit. Plenty of fine black performers and you like the white guy best!!??
|by Anonymous||reply 55||05/30/2021|
Speaking of the whities on the show, didn’t Paul Benedict have Marfans Syndrome? He was great as the film professor in The Freshman.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||05/30/2021|
The Jeffersons had such great scene stealers: Mother Jefferson, the doorman Ralph and the Queen herself, Florence. It's ironic that the least interesting character was the first one seen from AITF, Lionel . Bothe Lionels were bad (in different ways).
|by Anonymous||reply 57||05/31/2021|
Yeah Lionel and Jenny were both weak links. Everyone else in the show was great. Mother Jefferson vs. Weezy was always hilarious, like George vs. Florence.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||05/31/2021|
I used to watch "The Jeffersons" all the time.
"The Jeffersons" is unwatchable.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||05/31/2021|
You mean to tell me, we overcame and no one told me?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||05/31/2021|
¡Poor Carmen when Florence came back!
|by Anonymous||reply 61||05/31/2021|
According to R55, we are no longer allowed to like white performers. Talk about racism!
|by Anonymous||reply 62||05/31/2021|
Laverne And Shirley was better than Friends
|by Anonymous||reply 63||05/31/2021|
I, Claudius was better than Friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||05/31/2021|
I loved Helen Willis.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||05/31/2021|
Who were the white characters on the show prejudiced against?
Arthur Harmon was the one who tried to close down a gay bar years after suggesting that Maude put some stupid song from a Disney movie in her musicale.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||05/31/2021|
What's Happening! was FAR funnier than Friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||05/31/2021|
Rerun: Hey Shirley, what's the scoop?
Shirley: Scoop is, you're FAT!
|by Anonymous||reply 68||05/31/2021|
[italic]Silver Spoons[/italic] was better than [italic]Friends[/italic] despite enabling its existence by having Matthew Perry on it. The creators of that show started here and went on to make [italic]Married with Children[/italic], which is not only better than [italic]Friends[/italic] but explained the only reason anyone watches: with the sound off and with binoculars to spot the sight of braless tits.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||05/31/2021|
I had always hoped there would have been a crossover episode where Edith Bunker came to Manhattan to visit Louise.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||05/31/2021|
Louise came back to AITF one last time in 1979, right before it became [italic]Archie Bunker's Place[/italic], to rent the house to another Black family; this one was from the Caribbean.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||05/31/2021|
Nah, the Jeffersons is one of the few that does NOT hold up. Both 227 and Amen are better.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||06/01/2021|
Joannie Loves Chachi was better than Friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||06/01/2021|
Saved by the Bell was better than Friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||06/01/2021|
What's Happening Now !- was better than Friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||06/01/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 76||06/02/2021|
I've gotta be honest...most of the black sitcoms were horrible. Sanford and Son, Good Times, What's Happening, etc. All had sophomoric humor, depended on stupid catch phrases and awful acting. That being said, I must admit I loved The Jeffersons. Maybe it was the chemistry of the ensemble, or the pace of the show, but I loved it.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||06/02/2021|
Do me, do me!
|by Anonymous||reply 78||06/02/2021|
Alice was better than Friends!
|by Anonymous||reply 79||06/02/2021|
The Mary Tyler Moore Show was the best network sitcom of all time.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||06/02/2021|
I've gotta be honest...most of the white sitcoms were horrible. Friends, Will & Grace, Malcolm in the Middle, etc. All had sophomoric humor, depended on stupid catch phrases and awful acting.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||06/03/2021|
R80- No, it wasn't.
All In The Family was the FUNNIEST network sitcom of all time.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||06/03/2021|
[quote]Only if you need someone else's moral values force fed to you like a French farmer fattening up a goose.
fuck off, trumptard
|by Anonymous||reply 83||06/03/2021|
No love for [italic]Dinosaurs[/italic] which reunited Sherman Hemsley and Sally Struthers?
|by Anonymous||reply 84||06/03/2021|
The 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special was better than Friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||06/03/2021|
The canonical list of shows that are better than [italic]Friends[/italic] would be the entire history of television minus that. It really is that bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||06/03/2021|
Friends - just why?
|by Anonymous||reply 87||06/03/2021|
Because NBC made a pact with the devil to get out of last place. This was the price they paid.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||06/03/2021|
Will And Grace was better than Friends and I can't stand Will And Grace.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||06/03/2021|
This is why there is reality television. What did CBS put up against it? [italic]Survivor[/italic]. The show where Lisa Whelchel got her just desserts.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||06/03/2021|
This thread proves George Jefferson was right:
|by Anonymous||reply 91||06/04/2021|
R80 yeah black sitcoms NEVER rely on stupid catch phrases
|by Anonymous||reply 92||06/04/2021|
[italic]The Jeffersons[/italic] was and is better than [italic]All in the Family[/italic] because George was and is right about honkies:
|by Anonymous||reply 93||06/08/2021|
One "Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Willis" was worth a barrel full of "could I be"s and "how you doin"s.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||06/08/2021|
Here they are
Face to face
The fags and the hebes and coons
|by Anonymous||reply 95||06/08/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 96||06/08/2021|
Max Bialystock couldn't make a worse show than [italic]Friends[/italic] if he moved into the TV business.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||06/08/2021|
Moolie-coms are stupid, racist, and offensive.
White people's sitcoms are brilliant, complex, and nuanced.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||06/10/2021|
Small Wonder was better than Friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||Last Wednesday at 5:22 AM|
Why did The Jeffersons have that wooden gate by the door?
|by Anonymous||reply 100||Last Wednesday at 6:05 AM|
R99: Even Jamie had a Black friend.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||Last Wednesday at 6:10 AM|
Golden Girls was better than Friends
|by Anonymous||reply 102||Last Wednesday at 6:15 AM|
R101- Jamie was such a GAYLING on that show.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||Last Wednesday at 6:15 AM|
I'm old enough to remember watching The Jeffersons with my white family. But, I always wondered if the show was more popular with whites or with blacks when it originally aired.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||Last Wednesday at 6:21 AM|
I’m not a fan of other but I’d rather watch the Jeffersons. Friends is some of the worst shit I’ve ever seen in my life.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||Last Wednesday at 6:27 AM|
[quote]I'm old enough to remember watching The Jeffersons with my white family. But, I always wondered if the show was more popular with whites or with blacks when it originally aired.
The Jeffersons was a spinoff from All In The Family. I'd guess more whites were watching.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||Last Wednesday at 6:30 AM|