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The Jeffersons Was Better than Friends

...and you’re a racist honky if you don’t agree!

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by Anonymousreply 106Last Wednesday at 6:30 AM

So is every single television show in history, Opie.

by Anonymousreply 105/29/2021

Small Wonder was better than Friends.

by Anonymousreply 205/29/2021

Neither one was all that great...

by Anonymousreply 305/29/2021

I love the Jeffersons: "Wuch yu talkin' 'bout Willis!"

by Anonymousreply 405/29/2021

The producers of the show enabled [Italic]Friends[/italic] because by the time the show was on death’s doorstep, what did they launch? [italic]Who’s the fucking Boss[/italic]. That shows just how far their standards have dropped in less than a decade. And that also shows whose side Norman Lear was really on all along.

by Anonymousreply 505/29/2021

[quote] Small Wonder was better than Friends.

Even Jamie could manage one Black friend. And one redheaded friend, too. Two if you want to count the fat kid.

by Anonymousreply 605/29/2021

Different strokes had the watchyou talkin bout tag line...

by Anonymousreply 705/29/2021

Same production company. That show was all over the place in quality and it was still better than [Italic] Friends [/italic].

by Anonymousreply 805/29/2021

The Jeffersons had a great ensemble cast. They didn't falter until they got to Alan Willis and that Help Center crap.

by Anonymousreply 905/29/2021

I enjoyed that show, and Mother Jefferson was priceless.

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by Anonymousreply 1005/29/2021

The early episodes are freakin' hilarious. Mother Jefferson was later copied and named Sophia,

by Anonymousreply 1105/29/2021

The OP is correct.

But a hell of a lot of shows were better than "The Jeffersons."

by Anonymousreply 1205/29/2021

Those were fun little one offs, revisiting those shows.

And when Marla Gibbs was at that door I SCREAMED! Fabulous.

by Anonymousreply 1305/29/2021

Who's dead, who's living from The Jeffersons?

by Anonymousreply 1405/29/2021

Wonder years was better than the Jeffersons, butthead

by Anonymousreply 1505/29/2021

Mother Jefferson (Zara Cully) was the best.The scene starting at 1:50 is one of my all time favorites.

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by Anonymousreply 1605/29/2021

OP, you are a racist and transphobe.

Most Black sitcoms are stupid, offensive, unfunny, and yes, racist. This is one of the worst of the worst. The only good thing about it is that its producers went on to make [italic]Who’s the Boss[/italic], which was basically the [italic]Friends[/italic] of the 1980s. Both shows are classics and prove that Black people are not only unnecessary to the creation of classic TV, they are quite often a detriment to it. That’s why both of them got better ratings than the stupid, unfunny, offensive, and racist black situation “comedies“ the actively improved upon. All the best sitcoms have Italians in them. No exception.

My father refused to let me watch this or any other Norman Lear show. He was right. Everything Embassy produced that doesn’t have Tony Danza in it should be banned from television.

And if you disagree with me then it’s because you are prejudiced against Italians.

by Anonymousreply 1705/29/2021

Tony Danza proved once and for all that white men can do the work of the muglianos better than the muglianos can. That’s why his show was in the top 10 but all the moolie shows other than Cosby were not! Who cares if he ripped off some fat jewish moolie lezbo when she was a rethug and probably a TERF? At least Judith light supports the trans community, and I would rather watch light-skinned trans allies then dark-skinned TERF bitches any day of the week.

Nell Carter was a TERF!

by Anonymousreply 1805/29/2021

[italic]The Jeffersons[/italic] and [italic]Gimme A Break![/italic] were both transphobic truscum propaganda. They both perpetuate the lie that you have to have surgery in order to be trans. That’s transphobic. Anyone can be trans simply by declaring it.

[italic]Friends[/italic] is the best TV show ever. By casting Kathleen Turner as Chandler’s ejaculating parent, it is an admission that gay men are women and lesbians are men. That is far more progressive than any of this reactionary Norman Lear TERF propaganda ever was or ever will be. The man was and is a reactionary posing as a radical.

Fuck Norman Lear. And that golf hat of his makes him look like the world’s oldest lesbian anyway.

by Anonymousreply 1905/29/2021

Marla Gibbs and the Jefferson/Willis kids are the only ones left. The main four, Mr. Bentley are all gone.

by Anonymousreply 2005/29/2021

R18, it’s “mulignan”.

by Anonymousreply 2105/29/2021

Sadly, no r20. Mike Evans died in 2006.

by Anonymousreply 2205/29/2021

I couldn't stand The Jeffersons cause he was such a bastard to his wife. I liked him much better on a later show - maybe Rev? - where he was on the board of some church. He had a daughter with a crush on the Rev and though he was still obnoxious he was really great with his daughter.

by Anonymousreply 2305/29/2021

It was a delightful show.

by Anonymousreply 2405/29/2021

R23 That was AMEN

by Anonymousreply 2505/29/2021

The writing was such shit - it only worked because Sherman Hemsley could make just about anything funny (and Marla Gibbs and Mama Jefferson when they would pop up). But basically he had to carry the show and that’s why it was funny and watchable - some of the time. Ridiculous that he never won an Emmy and I think was nominated only once.

by Anonymousreply 2605/29/2021

The Jeffersons was ONLY funny when Mother Jefferson ( Zara Cully) was on the show. She died in 1978 and the show was NEVER as funny without her.

by Anonymousreply 2705/29/2021

R17- You have NO taste

Who's The Boss and Friends are CLASSICS!?

by Anonymousreply 2805/29/2021

Florence was always hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 2905/29/2021

The ONLY funny line she had was the episode where the Jeffersons were going on a trip to Hawaii and Florence didn't think she'd be able to go, so she told Helen Willis - Child ,the closest I'll ever get to Hawaii is the pineapple section at the A&P!

by Anonymousreply 3005/29/2021

"My Mother the Car" was better than "Friends".

by Anonymousreply 3105/29/2021

Facts of Life was better than Friends.

by Anonymousreply 3205/29/2021

Stupid comparison.

by Anonymousreply 3305/29/2021

Yeah these shows shouldn't be compared at all. Totally different time periods.

by Anonymousreply 3405/29/2021

R28: Yes, those shows are classics. They ran for many years in the top 10. Popularity equals quality, and it proves that after all these years, we white men are the boss and always will be.

In fact, Tony Danza is the reason I became a man.

by Anonymousreply 3505/29/2021

And if there was never a [italic]Who's the Boss[/italic], there never would have been a [italic]Growing Pains[/italic], which means I'd have no show and my sister wouldn't have gotten [italic]Full House[/italic] either.

by Anonymousreply 3605/29/2021

[quote] - it only worked because Sherman Hemsley could make just about anything funny.... But basically he had to carry the show and that’s why it was funny and watchable - some of the time. Ridiculous that he never won an Emmy and I think was nominated only once.

He didn't win because he was a black homo. Such things mattered then.

by Anonymousreply 3705/29/2021

Sherman Hemsley was a notorious coke fiend, and he had an LSD lab in his basement.

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by Anonymousreply 3805/30/2021

I love the people taking the OP seriously. (It's a parody of the guy who insists liking Friends is racist because Friends is supposedly a rip-off of Living Single.)

by Anonymousreply 3905/30/2021

My favorite Jeffersons line, fortyish years later, is still a simple one.


GEORGE: Florence! That's the door!

FLORENCE (uninterested) It sho is.

by Anonymousreply 4005/30/2021

NONE of those fucking "Friends" who cut a rug like this

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by Anonymousreply 4105/30/2021

Every Lear sitcom was better than Friends. The shows managed to discuss political issues and teach lessons. The actors looked like real people who were allowed to age, be chubby, be short, etc... I know, in the 90s, it was cool to make fun of preachy shows and corny "very special episodes". But the Lear shows managed to be political and educational while still being funny as hell.

Friends was fluff with pretty actresses and non-threatening actors.

by Anonymousreply 4205/30/2021

R41 Get DOWN Helen Willis!

by Anonymousreply 4305/30/2021

[quote] Every Lear sitcom was better than Friends

Only if you need someone else's moral values force fed to you like a French farmer fattening up a goose.

by Anonymousreply 4405/30/2021

R44 some of us had moralityand humanity already. Sorry it was such a burden for you to acknowledge other human beings.

by Anonymousreply 4505/30/2021

R41 Thats one of those clips no matter how depressed you are you can go watch that and you WILL laugh. And shit, George Jefferson would never be a straight character today.

by Anonymousreply 4605/30/2021

[quote] I love the people taking the OP seriously. (It's a parody of the guy who insists liking Friends is racist because Friends is supposedly a rip-off of Living Single.)

Except for the fact that the poster being parodied is right.

by Anonymousreply 4705/30/2021

This is why all criticism of Norman Lear is racist, was racist 50 years ago, and will never not be racist. Norman Lear is an Ashkenazi Jew and as such is a person of color. To call people of color racist is to be racist yourself. Being a racist requires whiteness, gentilism, and heterosexuality because racism equals prejudice plus power and only white heterosexual Gentiles have the kind of power that oppression requires. Lear could only muster one out of three.

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by Anonymousreply 4805/30/2021

Anyone remember the show where George's nephew (Gary Coleman) comes to visit. This was before Coleman was on Different Strokes. It was freakin hilarious. Watching Sherman Hemsley and Coleman trying to outmug each other was hysterical.

Just thought, wasn't it odd that George Jefferson's brother never appeared on the show, despite several appearances with Weezy on All In The Family?

by Anonymousreply 4905/30/2021

I really liked Franklin Cover, who played Roxie Roker's husband. He was the real standout on The Jeffersons, imo.

by Anonymousreply 5005/30/2021

r49, here's the best line from the Gary Coleman episode:

Tom Willis enters the Jeffersons' apartment and spots Gary Coleman. He exclaims, "Who's the little man?"

Before George can reply, Gary shouts back, "That's my uncle, George!"

by Anonymousreply 5105/30/2021

But not better than The Facts Of Life

Motorcycle dykes and cerebral palsy gave it that extra edge.

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by Anonymousreply 5205/30/2021

The teenage shows were where the action was at Embassy from the turn of the decade up until Norman Lear sold it to Coca-Cola.

by Anonymousreply 5305/30/2021

[italic]Maude[/italic] and [italic]Sanford and Son[/italic] are Norman Lear's best work, though I would say the biggest racist in the Norman Lear Galaxy of the Tommy Westphall Universe is Maude herself.

by Anonymousreply 5405/30/2021

[quote] I really liked Franklin Cover, who played Roxie Roker's husband. He was the real standout on The Jeffersons, imo.

He was white you racist piece of shit. Plenty of fine black performers and you like the white guy best!!??

by Anonymousreply 5505/30/2021

Speaking of the whities on the show, didn’t Paul Benedict have Marfans Syndrome? He was great as the film professor in The Freshman.

by Anonymousreply 5605/30/2021

The Jeffersons had such great scene stealers: Mother Jefferson, the doorman Ralph and the Queen herself, Florence. It's ironic that the least interesting character was the first one seen from AITF, Lionel . Bothe Lionels were bad (in different ways).

by Anonymousreply 5705/31/2021

Yeah Lionel and Jenny were both weak links. Everyone else in the show was great. Mother Jefferson vs. Weezy was always hilarious, like George vs. Florence.

by Anonymousreply 5805/31/2021

I used to watch "The Jeffersons" all the time.

"The Jeffersons" is unwatchable.

by Anonymousreply 5905/31/2021

You mean to tell me, we overcame and no one told me?

by Anonymousreply 6005/31/2021

¡Poor Carmen when Florence came back!

by Anonymousreply 6105/31/2021

According to R55, we are no longer allowed to like white performers. Talk about racism!

by Anonymousreply 6205/31/2021

Laverne And Shirley was better than Friends

by Anonymousreply 6305/31/2021

I, Claudius was better than Friends.

And funnier.

by Anonymousreply 6405/31/2021

I loved Helen Willis.

by Anonymousreply 6505/31/2021

Who were the white characters on the show prejudiced against?

Arthur Harmon was the one who tried to close down a gay bar years after suggesting that Maude put some stupid song from a Disney movie in her musicale.

by Anonymousreply 6605/31/2021

What's Happening! was FAR funnier than Friends.

by Anonymousreply 6705/31/2021

Rerun: Hey Shirley, what's the scoop?

Shirley: Scoop is, you're FAT!

by Anonymousreply 6805/31/2021

[italic]Silver Spoons[/italic] was better than [italic]Friends[/italic] despite enabling its existence by having Matthew Perry on it. The creators of that show started here and went on to make [italic]Married with Children[/italic], which is not only better than [italic]Friends[/italic] but explained the only reason anyone watches: with the sound off and with binoculars to spot the sight of braless tits.

by Anonymousreply 6905/31/2021

I had always hoped there would have been a crossover episode where Edith Bunker came to Manhattan to visit Louise.

by Anonymousreply 7005/31/2021

Louise came back to AITF one last time in 1979, right before it became [italic]Archie Bunker's Place[/italic], to rent the house to another Black family; this one was from the Caribbean.

by Anonymousreply 7105/31/2021

Nah, the Jeffersons is one of the few that does NOT hold up. Both 227 and Amen are better.

by Anonymousreply 7206/01/2021

Joannie Loves Chachi was better than Friends.

by Anonymousreply 7306/01/2021

Saved by the Bell was better than Friends.

by Anonymousreply 7406/01/2021

What's Happening Now !- was better than Friends.

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by Anonymousreply 7606/02/2021

I've gotta be honest...most of the black sitcoms were horrible. Sanford and Son, Good Times, What's Happening, etc. All had sophomoric humor, depended on stupid catch phrases and awful acting. That being said, I must admit I loved The Jeffersons. Maybe it was the chemistry of the ensemble, or the pace of the show, but I loved it.

by Anonymousreply 7706/02/2021

Do me, do me!

by Anonymousreply 7806/02/2021

Alice was better than Friends!

by Anonymousreply 7906/02/2021

The Mary Tyler Moore Show was the best network sitcom of all time.

by Anonymousreply 8006/02/2021

I've gotta be honest...most of the white sitcoms were horrible. Friends, Will & Grace, Malcolm in the Middle, etc. All had sophomoric humor, depended on stupid catch phrases and awful acting.

by Anonymousreply 8106/03/2021

R80- No, it wasn't.

All In The Family was the FUNNIEST network sitcom of all time.

by Anonymousreply 8206/03/2021

[quote]Only if you need someone else's moral values force fed to you like a French farmer fattening up a goose.

fuck off, trumptard

by Anonymousreply 8306/03/2021

No love for [italic]Dinosaurs[/italic] which reunited Sherman Hemsley and Sally Struthers?

by Anonymousreply 8406/03/2021

The 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special was better than Friends.

by Anonymousreply 8506/03/2021

The canonical list of shows that are better than [italic]Friends[/italic] would be the entire history of television minus that. It really is that bad.

by Anonymousreply 8606/03/2021

Friends - just why?

by Anonymousreply 8706/03/2021

Because NBC made a pact with the devil to get out of last place. This was the price they paid.

by Anonymousreply 8806/03/2021

Will And Grace was better than Friends and I can't stand Will And Grace.

by Anonymousreply 8906/03/2021

This is why there is reality television. What did CBS put up against it? [italic]Survivor[/italic]. The show where Lisa Whelchel got her just desserts.

by Anonymousreply 9006/03/2021

This thread proves George Jefferson was right:

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by Anonymousreply 9106/04/2021

R80 yeah black sitcoms NEVER rely on stupid catch phrases

by Anonymousreply 9206/04/2021

[italic]The Jeffersons[/italic] was and is better than [italic]All in the Family[/italic] because George was and is right about honkies:

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by Anonymousreply 9306/08/2021

One "Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Willis" was worth a barrel full of "could I be"s and "how you doin"s.

by Anonymousreply 9406/08/2021

Here they are

Face to face

The fags and the hebes and coons

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by Anonymousreply 9506/08/2021

No shit?

by Anonymousreply 9606/08/2021

Max Bialystock couldn't make a worse show than [italic]Friends[/italic] if he moved into the TV business.

by Anonymousreply 9706/08/2021

Moolie-coms are stupid, racist, and offensive.

White people's sitcoms are brilliant, complex, and nuanced.

by Anonymousreply 9806/10/2021

Small Wonder was better than Friends.

by Anonymousreply 99Last Wednesday at 5:22 AM

Why did The Jeffersons have that wooden gate by the door?

by Anonymousreply 100Last Wednesday at 6:05 AM

R99: Even Jamie had a Black friend.

by Anonymousreply 101Last Wednesday at 6:10 AM

Golden Girls was better than Friends

by Anonymousreply 102Last Wednesday at 6:15 AM

R101- Jamie was such a GAYLING on that show.

by Anonymousreply 103Last Wednesday at 6:15 AM

I'm old enough to remember watching The Jeffersons with my white family. But, I always wondered if the show was more popular with whites or with blacks when it originally aired.

by Anonymousreply 104Last Wednesday at 6:21 AM

I’m not a fan of other but I’d rather watch the Jeffersons. Friends is some of the worst shit I’ve ever seen in my life.

by Anonymousreply 105Last Wednesday at 6:27 AM

[quote]I'm old enough to remember watching The Jeffersons with my white family. But, I always wondered if the show was more popular with whites or with blacks when it originally aired.

The Jeffersons was a spinoff from All In The Family. I'd guess more whites were watching.

by Anonymousreply 106Last Wednesday at 6:30 AM
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