Is the GOP winning?

they defend israel, they're against mostly peaceful protests, they won't support late term abortions, they still cling to cis expressions of the gender binary, they won't open the borders, they promote capitalism, they would open the keystone pipeline while denying poor russians theirs, their islamophobes unwilling to work with iran, they just fail across the board. they're losers by virtue. just like hamas, we are the ones that have truly won. the world knows it. social media knows it. the media knows it. we are the champions. just look at our march today in d.c. they could never attract that kind of crowd.

I think there’s a large contingent of the population that’s deliberately disconnected and taking a break from Trump. There’s also a growing restlessness with Biden reneging on student loan relief. We’re tired.

Everyone else is either riding the wave of home ownership- or the despair of not owning with rising real estate valuations.

I’d just like to get along again.

Boris the OP is always trying to spin his party's banishment from Washington power as "winning."

YOU AND THE G.O.P. ARE CHARLIE SHEEN "WINNING," BITCH!

Since you don't take the Real News, it's time you read up:

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I think Boris is supposed to fuck off.

The GOP is winning because you have Democratic assholes in the Senate like Manchin and Sinema who support the Filibuster. The Republicans are a minority Party who lost control of the House, Senate, and Presidency... yet Bitch McConnell is allowed to obstruct anything he wants and prevent legislation from being passed that is supported by large majorities of the American public. And he can do that because Democrats allow it.

They've lost a lot of registered voters - many former Republican voters switched to Independent in the last year. Plus you have the aging demo dying off and Millennials coming of age and FINALLY voting in decent numbers.

None of the Republican policies or bills the past 6 months have done anything except throw red meat to their base, who would vote Republican no matter what. These are not policies that are going to bring people in.

I feel like they're doing a lot of this just to be the dicks that they are or to give them some talking points when they run for other gvt positions. It's bizarre. There's nothing a Republican can do to make me vote for those untrustworthy, lying scumbags but I can't think this is helping to win over any Independents.

[quote]Bitch McConnell is allowed to obstruct anything he wants and prevent legislation from being passed that is supported by large majorities of the American public.

Hey pansy bitch, in 2021 that is what is called BI-FUCKING-PARTISAN!

The unvaccinated OP defeatist troll thinks his thread will crumble democracy. It won't.

They scream the loudest, they're angry, they're evil, they're bad shit crazy, they're hypocrites, they have no shame, they control the narrative, they're obstructing any good bills that Biden wants to pass, they're suppressing the vote in many states, they will show up at the polls etc...

The GOP will cheat their way to victory. I tread to say it but I predict they will take the House AND the Senate in 2022. Then the real shit will hit the fan. I want them ANNIHILATED but my mind is uneasy.

I just love how perceptive r5 is.

You’re good!

The Republican strategy of blocking everything the Democrats do, and then accusing the Democrats of doing nothing, is a winning strategy. Most voters don’t pay enough attention to know what’s going on.

OP = NEXT LEVEL PSYCHOTIC DELUSIONS

[quote]The Republican strategy of blocking everything the Democrats do, and then accusing the Democrats of doing nothing, is a winning strategy. Most voters don’t pay enough attention to know what’s going on.

And they're also taking credit in their districts for many of the good things in the Stimulus Bill. The Bill they all voted against.

The GOP is better at propaganda. It’s just a fact.

They know their voters are too stupid to know when they're being lied to.

The reaction here is scary. We Democrats are doomed if we think the game is won and over because we have the WH and a slim majority in Congress. Trump could have easily won and could win or anoint the winner in four years. Attacking OP as Boris or a psycho is ignoring reality and the continuing work that Democrats must do.

R17, shut up. Take your fear porn somewhere else.

That's some real expert trolling there at R1, but capital letters are your friend.

Let's just remember that the GOP has way fewer votes in Senate, House, and (when they were there) White House than the Democrats. They win with minority votes because of gerrymandering, voter suppression, and in some cases outright cheating. They have no majority support but rely on oligarchic, anti-voting means to get power.

Which reduces it to the level of rank amateur r19.

Biden just proposed a budget and included none of his campaign promises. The Dems do it to themselves. Student loan debt forgiveness, 15 dollar minimum wage, a public option to Obamacare, the bare minimum things Biden promised -- not happening. The Dems don't know how to win -- except with their corporate donors. The donors don't really care who wins, now. They win, either way.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Biden winning will ultimetly prove to be a "pit stop" in the down fall of American democracy. We were doomed the moment Trump was elected President.

I’m with you on that r23. The GOP stays as powerful as they are because of the electoral college, tiny red states having as many senators as high population blue states like California and state legislatures that aren’t afraid to gerrymander all to hell and suppress the votes of likely Democrats. They’re winning because the system is set up to give them the advantage, and we’re really powerless to do anything about it with or razor thin Senate majority (and assholes like Manchin).

When they regain control of all three branches under a monster like DeSantis they’ll be able to inflict the most evil agenda we’ll ever see.

R24 - it's a system that they've been devising for decades. They play a long game.

We don't know how many real GOPs there are because assholes like Michael Steele refused to leave the party though they don't support Trump.

I would add to this the underlying propaganda infrastructure through talk radio and Fox News (and newer and more extreme outlets) they’ve built to keep the rubes angry and fearful and voting R. They’ll never vote D because policy and facts don’t matter and appeals to reason and decency don’t work. Now, with QAnon, they’ve learned they can spew the most outlandish lies and attract millions of votes with them. I wish there were a way to break through, but I don’t see one.

Gerrymandering, voter suppression, structural advantage to non-urban states in Congress and the electoral college (e.g. South Dakota and CA both with two Senators), hyper-partisan reps in Congress who honor raw power more than the Constitution (e.g. Turtle and the Supreme Court).

The Republicans have way more power than demographics and party membership should warrant. And demographics trend against them - hence all their work to solidify power that doesn't depend on voting. The threat to our republic is real, and is obfuscated by all the "culture war" noise they generate relentlessly. For example, the strategic and mock-angry criticism of "wokeness" is just a ploy by their strategists to obscure the fact that they no longer believe democracy is important.

Given this... the Democrats need to do what they can to save democracy. If they lose the House in 2022, the President does have the veto power as a firewall against totalitarianism... and I still believe that Trump (or Trump-lite) cannot win in 2024. As was stated upthread the corporate interests and the elite capitalists like the Koch Brothers have used the MAGA movement to further their aims, but also may well recoil more and more at the Dictatorship that looms.

The GOP has perfected how to wield power. It knows it can only attract a minority of voters so it uses every lever of power it can.

Unfortunately, Dems are so fucking goody two shoes.

An example would be to redistrict Stefanik right out of her NY district. The new Census allows NYS to do just that. A party that wields power would do exactly that.

[Quote] and I still believe that Trump (or Trump-lite) cannot win in 2024.

All these new laws making it harder and harder to vote will be put to the test. Black turnout was essential to a Dem win in 2020. As the southern states are moving to block black votes even more, we will see how far a Trump or DeSantis goes

Trump said he loved the stupid people. And they love him.

R30 Yep, black turnout needs to be even more than 2020 for Trumpism to lose in 2024.... and the Latino thing has to be addressed. That a higher percentage of Latinos voted for Trump in 2020 than in 2016 is a problem. And the % of Latino voters in 2024 will be higher.

The problem is that "Latino voters" is not a single block. It's very, very diverse. But if Georgia, FL, North Carolina, Nevada go Dem in 2024, Latino voters will be crucial.

May the G.O.P. keep "winning" like this for many years to come.

Everything is FINE, op! Biden beat Trump (by just over 40k more votes, and Trump increased his minority voting share, and Dems lost seats in the house), so just deal with it. People who question the inevitable democratic victories are such dummies, aren't they? They think we need to speak the language of the people we want to vote for us--don't they understand that the plebs wouldn't understand complex topics like critical race theory, even if they did understand the words? Lmao "flyovers" (I call them trumptards, I know SOME midwesterners didn't vote for Trump but they are guilty anyway, in my opinion they have flyover privledge). They're all a bunch of racists. I bet OP is white.

So anyway, there's NO problem. When the democratic victory comes, and it WILL come there's no question and criticism=racism, I hope OP, sitting in his Boris Hut in Russia, realizes how dumb he is. You have to realize these people are trying to destroy America!

[quote]criticism=racism

That's already happening, R34. Another Democratic victory.

[quote] flyover privledge

Oh, dear!

R34 = uber-tribal loon.

R34 Absolutely tiresome drivel. It's like listening to the flat-earthers. Things are true because they believe they are true.

R34 You are supporting a group of Americans who approve of violently attacking the Capitol to disrupt the Constitutional process of certifying an election. How is that justifiable, no matter what other political/policy/cultural views you hold? What is the cost of "winning"???

Do you think the wrong side won in the Civil War?

R39, I think you misunderstand.

I have to agree with R23, I am not hopeful for the future of America. It's very possible the democrats could lose the senate. The GOP have rigged the system to such an extent I think it's only a matter of time now before democracy erodes away. For those talk about "woke culture," don't mistake yourself, the GOP love it because it's turned white working-class voters and conservative minority groups like Latinos towards them. Appearing woke plays well on the coasts where the Democrats have no issues but in other states that the Democrats need to flip, it's a liability. Let's be clear, Biden was the only one who could beat Trump (the white, moderate appearing candidate). Harris will not win if she is the nominee. In fact I can't think of one Democrat right now who could win the presidency is Biden doesn't run in 2024.

Good Old Poop

If crime continues to be an issue, Repubs will use it to take Congress in 2022.

Hispanics and Asians will tire of a Democratic party that spends so much capital on black issues. The only hope for Democrats is that the Republican Party is so insane. That’s the.best thing they have going.

R43 (And the other "anti-woke" concern trolls) It's just possible that handling well the worst public health crisis in a century, and getting us back to something near "normal" life, actually getting infrastructure done, actually making the middle class's life improve - universal childcare/pre-school, rural broadband access, focused career education for post-industrial jobs, supporting collective bargaining (which created the middle class in the first place), handling China's military expansion in Asia, oh, I don't know, actually governing well? Might actually garner support. You never know.

I agree r44!

They've had plenty of big wins since the dems won all 3 houses in 2020.

They still have a powerful footing when they need it...

If McConnell and Trump would both drop dead in the next year, democracy might survive. Otherwise, we are in trouble. MM is evil personified. It oozes from his pores. And he is the one steering this ship.

Yes. They have already won. Putin is their lord and master now.

R7: An independent is a closeted Republican.

A Libertarian is a closeted Republican.

Yeah, they’re winning. Biden has about 18 months to get things done, and then the pendulum will swing back to the wrong side hard and fast.

r34 = Boris's schizophrenic spin of his own ridiculous failings and Republican collapse.

Keep it up, psycho! We've seen what happens when conservatives bunker down in their own Fake News bubble and we LIKE IT!

Soon Republicans will be extinct, getting trashier and more hilarious as their numbers evaporate. You're nothing but a baboon's flaming ass in estrus!

Quinnipiac Polling – 5/18 thru 5/24, 2021 – 538 Rating is an A minus 2022 Generic Congressional Vote – DEMOCRATS LEAD by a PLUS + 9 Points Democrats – 49% Republicans – 40%

R51 how can you, having ostensibly lived through the last election (which, btw. Had the most significant polling error since REGAN), try to use a generic Congressional ticket poll to make ANY kind of conclusion.

I wish we lived in the world described 'pollyann-ishly' by r44. I agree that those real, beneficial accomplishments *should* matter to the voters, but if you are honestly relying on that then you're a sucker. Sorry, but it's true. GOP will use culture war and wedges and that will be that. They do this every time, and pretending that it won't work is naive. Luckily republicans are too busy cat fighting amongst themselves to be an effective political player right now, and Trump is only hunting republicans, but that will change.

[quote]Biden just proposed a budget and included none of his campaign promises. The Dems do it to themselves. Student loan debt forgiveness, 15 dollar minimum wage, a public option to Obamacare, the bare minimum things Biden promised -- not happening

This is the problem in a nutshell. The moderate democrats are so busy walking on eggshells around Joe Manchin and letting him run Biden's presidency, that they don't realize the obvious. FIGHT. TO. GIVE. THE. PEOPLE. WHAT. THEY. WANT.

If Biden were to nullify student loan debt tomorrow and announced that a public option were being officially put on the table, dems would win 2024. If he fought tooth and nail for the minimum wage, it would have benefitted all elected democrats. You have to fight for what your voters want. It's not even so much getting it. If you put up a fight and lost, people would know who the ene

Newsome's announcing monetary giveaways for people who get COVID vaccinations, and people are reading him for filth, saying all that money could have gone to everybody during the pandemic. Who thinks up these piss poor optics for the democrats?

Get pissed all you want , but with the way things are going right now, Kamala Harris isn't getting the Presidency in 2024. 2024 is going to be problematic as shit if Biden decides not to run again. And people better start dealing with that. Maybe let the woman actually start doing something significant in this administration? Just a thought.

Our one hope is that there is a splinter in the Republican party. It looks like there's a decent chance of it happening. Anyone not licking Trump's ass is being torn apart and alienated.

If that happens, they're not going to win much except in those super red areas that will always vote for Trump or Republican no matter what.

Now if Dems can stick to real issues about income inequality, infrastructure, healthcare, etc. they may get somewhere. However, they can easily alienate a lot of voters by giving into some of the far left's virtue signaling.

But those aren’t the issues people care about r54. Number one on my list is health care but it isn’t on this one (surprising actually).

^I meant that it wasn’t the number 1 issue, not that healthcare wasn’t on the list at r55.

More people are becoming politically homeless so neither side is really winning.

[quote] Now if Dems can stick to real issues about income inequality, infrastructure, healthcare,

Democrats have given up the issue of mass inequality in favor of race based identity politics. They also want to expand the definition of infrastructure (which used to be something that united both parties), and most corporate Democrats are in the pockets of the pharmaceutical companies.

[quote]I can't think of one Democrat right now who could win the presidency is Biden doesn't run in 2024.

I think Jason Crow might make a great candidate if Kamala doesn't run (or perhaps as her VP). Also, maybe Martin Heinrich, though I admit I don't know as much about him as I do Crow.

what's your point, OP?

The Democrats are weak and will lose any majorities they have in the next couple of years. The GOP has turned into a bunch of lunatics and the Dems just say "please like me, I want you to like me".

"When they go low, we go high" was the stupidest thing they could have done during Trump. There's nothing "high" about the United States today.

"Average John and Jane" have no representation in government right now. None. Zero.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the complete fall of the United States before the end of my lifetime. We are in Chapter One of Idiocracy. Save yourself and god speed.

R61, concern troll who’s jumped off the cliff. We don’t need your trolling,, so go troll somewhere else.

R58 I think that like so many in our country you believe something is true because you believe it is true.

facts matter. Actually look at the budget that Biden proposed this week. It does more to address inequality than anything in many, many decades. Will it pass? let's see.

R44

Biden is governing as a normal president, but the politically correct Dem messaging will be a problem.