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Moonlight

Showtime is featuring this movie in the month of May.

So I watched it a few times, and I don't think it's a "gay" movie, or a movie about two "DL" guys at all!

It seems to me that Chiron is just a hurt person who found comfort in his (male) friend from school.

Yes, they fooled around on the beach one night, but that was pretty much it for both of them.

If you look at the span of Chiron's life, he was just a hurt child who grew into a hurt adult, and then found comfort and intimacy in the arms of a male friend.

That's it. Right?

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by Anonymousreply 64January 13, 2022 5:16 PM

[quote] So I watched it a few times, and I don't think it's a "gay" movie, or a movie about two "DL" guys at all!

So, what's a "gay" movie?

Troll.

by Anonymousreply 1May 28, 2021 2:09 AM

[quote]I don't think it's a "gay" movie

Chiron transitioned in the sequel, “Moonlight II: New Moon”.

by Anonymousreply 2May 28, 2021 2:09 AM

Gay themed, R1.

Get a fucking grip, you reactionary CUNT.

by Anonymousreply 3May 28, 2021 2:11 AM

[quote] Gay themed,

Why didn't you say that instead of "gay?"

Troll.

by Anonymousreply 4May 28, 2021 2:15 AM

[quote]So, what's a "gay" movie?

No such thing because “gay” isn’t real.

by Anonymousreply 5May 28, 2021 2:16 AM

Muriel, he's in here.

by Anonymousreply 6May 28, 2021 2:18 AM

And the Academy Award.... for best picture.....

LALA LAND!!

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by Anonymousreply 7May 28, 2021 2:19 AM

Great film.

by Anonymousreply 8May 28, 2021 2:20 AM

I liked it but I wish that there were more sex scenes in it. It was well acted, but it felt neutered.

by Anonymousreply 9May 28, 2021 2:22 AM

[quote] It was well acted, but it felt neutered.

I think that was kind of the point.

It felt neutered because it wasn't about them being gay or on the DL.

Chiron was just looking for intimacy with someone because of the bad relationship with his mother.

The ending scene pretty much confirmed it.

That said, Chiron drove me fucking crazy. I cannot handle people who say two or three words at a time.

by Anonymousreply 10May 28, 2021 2:25 AM

I disagree. I don’t need explicit sex. That’s like dumb heteros who will sit through a two hour shitfest to see some chick’s boobs. If you want porn, watch porn.

by Anonymousreply 11May 28, 2021 2:28 AM

Hello Stranger

by Anonymousreply 12May 28, 2021 2:38 AM

Whatever it was gay or not is immaterial. The movie sucked.

by Anonymousreply 13May 28, 2021 2:44 AM

And the winner is... LALA LAND!

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by Anonymousreply 14May 28, 2021 2:46 AM

OP, you might as well have said that Brokeback Mountain was a 20-year long booty call. You'll garner no support here.

by Anonymousreply 15May 28, 2021 2:48 AM

J'adore this movie. How could one not like it?

by Anonymousreply 16May 28, 2021 2:48 AM

I love finely crafted gay films. Most “gay films” are just what a lot of gays want: nothin but gratuitous nudity and sex scenes. There’s something for everyone out there.

by Anonymousreply 17May 28, 2021 2:56 AM

This was a beautiful movie and we need more LGB Black films. There's another great film called "Pariah" about a young Black butch lesbian living in the hood and discovering her sexuality and getting into conflict with her religious conservative mother. Dee Rees, the director also directed Mudbound.

by Anonymousreply 18May 28, 2021 2:59 AM

I’ll check it out. Any other good gay film recommendations are appreciated. My favorite is Weekend.

by Anonymousreply 19May 28, 2021 3:15 AM

The diner scene at the end of this movie is so, so perfect. Some of the best acted and executed cinema EVER.

r9 I think as a gay man watching, that scene builds so much sexual tension. Jacked Chiron gazing affectionately at his first love, like a man who has been in the desert for days about to have his first drink of water.

by Anonymousreply 20May 28, 2021 3:17 AM

Lesbian icon Janelle Monae did such a great job in this film too.

by Anonymousreply 21May 28, 2021 3:21 AM

Agreed R20. I loved that scene. I even bought the LP to the soundtrack. It’s blue vinyl.

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by Anonymousreply 22May 28, 2021 3:22 AM

All I know is that grown up Chiron is hot as fuck!!

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by Anonymousreply 23May 29, 2021 10:24 PM

Chiron is definitely gay and very, very hurt.

by Anonymousreply 24May 29, 2021 10:38 PM

The kid who played teenaged Chiron, could be a model.

He's gorgeous.

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by Anonymousreply 25May 31, 2021 4:32 AM

His name is Ashton Sanders.

I'm thinking he's gay.

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by Anonymousreply 26May 31, 2021 4:34 AM

Ashton was in the Equalizer 2 with Denzel, also great in that

by Anonymousreply 27May 31, 2021 4:37 AM

Chiron wasn't gay, I tell you. He was just shy!

by Anonymousreply 28May 31, 2021 4:50 AM

That ending. The shot of Chiron and Kevin. One of the most beautiful endings in cinema.

by Anonymousreply 29May 31, 2021 5:14 AM

[quote] That ending. The shot of Chiron and Kevin. One of the most beautiful endings in cinema.

And the winner is..... LA LA LAND!!!

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by Anonymousreply 30May 31, 2021 5:20 AM

I wonder which of the 2 (MOONLIGHT or LA LA LAND) will be better remembered/more highly regarded in years to come.

I liked them both very much.

by Anonymousreply 31May 31, 2021 5:25 AM

It was a near perfect movie for me, 'cept for one thing: "Hello Stranger"....

Song choices are SO important. Why that song? It was a hit in 1963. Those boys grew up in the mid-70s. They had no connection to that song. It wasn't played at any point in the soundtrack until the diner scene. It just made no sense to me. An Al Green or Marvin Gaye song would have made more sense.

I speculate that Barry Jenkins must have wanted another song, then lost the rights at the very last minute. Hello Stranger has a fairly low residuals price because it has been used in so many tv shows and movies.

It just does not belong there!

by Anonymousreply 32May 31, 2021 7:53 AM

Check this out

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by Anonymousreply 33May 31, 2021 8:12 AM

I totally disagree, R32.

The song set a perfect mood for Kevin and Chiron, especially since they had not seen each other in years.

It was so romantic.

by Anonymousreply 34May 31, 2021 8:42 PM

r34 I agree the scene is extremely romantic, that's a credit to great acting and directing. But I also think the song should've been different.

by Anonymousreply 35June 1, 2021 2:16 AM

It was common to have oldies on jukeboxes, still is if you can find one. The song is perfect IMO.

by Anonymousreply 36June 1, 2021 2:31 AM

Agreed, not a stretch at all--that's exactly the sort of song you'd find on the jukebox of the urban diner where I worked my way through college back in the 80s.

by Anonymousreply 37June 1, 2021 2:46 AM

The movie is beautiful, Chiron's story so heavy and realistic. Only the end is a bit prudish, I expect the director wanted to make it different and out of usual, but after all the sexual and romantic tension in the diner, which was beautifully played by two leads, it ended a bit like two girls comforting each other. Although it was tender, but after ten years of waiting, would the first thing Chiron does be to put his head on Kevin's shoulder?

by Anonymousreply 38January 2, 2022 10:23 PM

Oh thank GOD it’s not a “gay” movie. I’m so relieved, OP.

by Anonymousreply 39January 2, 2022 10:32 PM

[quote] I liked it but I wish that there were more sex scenes in it. It was well acted, but it felt neutered.

A love scene between Trevante Rhodes and Andre Holland would have made this a CLASSIC. I was so let down by the ending of this movie.

by Anonymousreply 40January 2, 2022 10:34 PM

My God, Chiron was eating the Cook in the diner with his eyes the whole evening. Of course, he was so afraid an insecure, but after he kind of revealed his feelings and wasn't rejected wouldn't he be more daring. Of course, they wanted a poetic ending and the director acknowledged the influence of Wong Kar Wai, but some lovemaking can also be poetic too.

by Anonymousreply 41January 2, 2022 10:43 PM

The tension.

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by Anonymousreply 42January 2, 2022 10:47 PM

R40, I think the last half hour of the film was a love scene between Trevante Rhodes and Andre Holland

by Anonymousreply 43January 2, 2022 11:18 PM

Would the film have been better if the screenwriter/director had been gay?

At least one if not both of the actors in the last scene was straight. Would gay men have played it differently?

by Anonymousreply 44January 2, 2022 11:19 PM

r44, Writer Tarell Alvin McCraney is gay. Director Barry Jenkins is not.

by Anonymousreply 45January 3, 2022 12:00 AM

R44, McCraney did not write the screenplay. Jenkins wrote it. (It is based on a unpublished, unproduced play by McCraney.)

by Anonymousreply 46January 3, 2022 12:03 AM

I thought Andre Holland and Trevante Rhodes were both fantastic. They were more deserving of Oscar recognition than Mahershala Ali imo.

by Anonymousreply 47January 3, 2022 12:06 AM

R47 They are great, particularly Trevante. Such vulnerability and acting with his eyes.

Too bad the director was a bit prudish, but film was beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 48January 3, 2022 12:18 AM

How did Mahershala Ali get all the awards. Best publicist?

I don't even think he's the best performer in the film.

by Anonymousreply 49January 3, 2022 3:37 AM

watching that clip at r42 makes me want to see the whole movie again.

by Anonymousreply 50January 3, 2022 4:23 AM

This was so beautifully filmed, particularly the scenes involving the ocean, they took my breath away.

by Anonymousreply 51January 3, 2022 4:31 AM

Emma Stone was so good in this.

by Anonymousreply 52January 3, 2022 4:41 AM

Marco Berger, our fave director of subtle Argentinian gay sexual tension (Plan B, Hawaii, Taekwondo, The Blond One) is a fan. I agree with him that Moonlight is a perfect movie. Lots of similarities in style and story with his movies.

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by Anonymousreply 53January 3, 2022 8:19 AM

The cafe scene is just beautiful. Starting with the Aretha Franklin song. I think it's sad that so few gay movies can be called truly great. Most skew towards melodramatic campiness and soap plots.

by Anonymousreply 54January 3, 2022 4:13 PM

The Aretha song

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by Anonymousreply 55January 4, 2022 4:40 AM

They're saying the cinema age is coming to an end as people turn to streaming and the long-form of multi-episodic TV and turn away from the dissatisfying two-hour format of movies. That'll make Moonlight one of the last true classics of cinema. The movie industry is going the way of VHS.

They finished that museum just in time.

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by Anonymousreply 56January 4, 2022 10:07 AM

I live on homophobic Balkans, but I think Black gay men have even tougher time than us. I never knew until I read some comments on social media, not only about this film, but about Kid Cudi wearing dress, about Lil Nas X and about the life of men on Down low. It seems to me is like the Black community feels betrayed and humiliated by Black men who are less then hetero and hypermasculine. The crazy comments from black guys about emasculating Black men as a unity, angry black girls feeling betrayed. A lot of emotional pressure. Like you let the society down, damaged the whole community, same as your family might react here. Feels worse than being just called a faggot and despised.

by Anonymousreply 57January 5, 2022 12:27 PM

Which makes it even more remarkable that Black gay men are part of the biggest, landmark battles in the fight for equality. Michael Sam was the first openly gay player in the NFL. Lil Nax X and Frank Ocean came out at the height of their fame in the very homophobic genre of hip-hop ( for perspective, there are still no white equivalents who've dared to challenge the dominant homophobic cultures in Nascar or country music), Moonlight is the first gay-themed movie to win the Academy Award for best picture ... and so many other examples like these. Someone mentioned on another thread that the first gay male active sports superstar to come out will not be Aaron Rodgers but a Black man. Bu you wouldn't know it from the racism Black gay men experience within the gay community

by Anonymousreply 58January 5, 2022 1:58 PM

I have great respect for Lil Nas X. He really has the balls and is very bright in communication on social media. And to think he is just a kid.

by Anonymousreply 59January 5, 2022 6:48 PM

If this had been a movie with a white cast, they would've turned it into a tragedy of loss because gays are not allowed happy endings.

by Anonymousreply 60January 6, 2022 2:33 AM

The supporting cast of this movie was also fantastic. Mahershala Ali, Janelle Monae and, especially, Naomi Harris.

by Anonymousreply 61January 8, 2022 2:25 AM

The red tag really ruins this thread for me.

by Anonymousreply 62January 8, 2022 2:26 AM

Just rewatched. Still holds up. A true modern classic.

by Anonymousreply 63January 13, 2022 4:52 PM

R58 I do trust you about the racism, even though it is covered these days.

by Anonymousreply 64January 13, 2022 5:16 PM
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