Camille Paglia Comes Out As Transgender

paywalled, doll

that's a shame cuz it's usually a lot of fun when the DL drags old Camille

[quote]Does she have a shenis?

I suspect she has a hegina.

She is smart.

I read it. It's an old lady complaining about today's youth. It's not even interesting or original enough to quote.

I AM WOMAN, HEAR ME ROAR!!!!

I heard she ate out Vadge's snatch.

She's one of the smartest women of our time. That seems to scare DL for some reason.

Posting a paywalled article from two years ago makes you a huge cunt, OP.

Camille Paglia has been transgendered for two years and we haven't been forced to hear about it, again and again, every damned day of the full two years?

How can that be?

I always like feminists that weren’t anti-men!

F&F the OP for dragging up years old shit and trying to make it happen with a paywalled article link.

R7 you've got to be joking.

it doesn't appear to be paywalled at all.

but if you require an alternative

Isn’t she the one who loves NAMBLA?

She's a professional troll.

r14 and is a transmisogynist that promotes colonial western civilization over equity, restorative social justice and promotes toxic masculinity especially among women hating gay men

"transmisogynist", "restorative justice" lmao

Has she transitioned to being a woman?

r17 toxic!

R13, OP That article is 1,739 words long .

Can you give us a precis or some of the highlights of it because it's obvious that no one in this thread has read more than 20 words of it?

I don't like Paglia, but is detest idiots such as the balls-haven't-dropped R4, who is as shallow as her emotional life always will be.

all terfs are just mras

Paglia often advocates for things that make perfect sense. But she presents it so abrasively that she loses her audience. Which is sad.

Well, going by everything Paglia has said in the past 40 years, "Madonna is the best artist since Duchamp. Kids today are mush-headed zombies. I am a liberal Democrat but all liberals are pussies and all Republican men are macho tough guys I respect. Even though I'm a homo who teaches art history, I am in touch with the solid white working class who are the only real americans so my opinion matters more than yours."

Unmedicated bipolar, right?

[quote] "Madonna is the best artist since Duchamp

That is mockery. Duchamp was a pretentious faker.

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mutinous students demanded her firing over public comments she’d made that were not wholly sympathetic to the #MeToo movement, as well as for an interview with the Weekly Standard that they called “transphobic.” That denunciation, with its indignant dogmatism, is particularly slapstick, since Ms. Paglia describes herself as “transgender.”

The protests were unsuccessful, largely thanks to a robust defense of Ms. Paglia by the university’s president, David Yager. “Artists over the centuries,” he wrote in an open letter to students, “have suffered censorship, and even persecution, for the expression of their beliefs through their work. My answer is simple: Not now, not at UArts.” ....

Judging by last semester’s protests against Ms. Paglia, today’s college students seem better versed in the polemics of gender identity than in Judeo-Christian history. This prompts me to ask Ms. Paglia, perhaps intrusively, why she regards herself as transgender. “There’s no doubt whatever,” she responds, “that I have had a radical gender dysphoria since earliest childhood. Never once in my life have I felt female.” Nor did she feel male, “except when wearing my fabulous Halloween costumes as a Roman soldier, toreador or Napoleon.” “This strange alienation from standard human life certainly helped sharpen my powers of social observation,” she says, “and eventually made me a writer.” Her many years of researching and writing “Sexual Personae,” she adds, “exorcised a lot of my accumulated hostility toward the gender system.” These days, she says, “there is only one occasion when my old turbulence returns—when shopping for clothing.” When she was in college, styles were “gender-bending,” and she wore “Tom Jones shirts, flared pinstriped trousers, Navy pea coats and Beatles boots with Cuban heels.” No more. Now she makes an annual “pilgrimage” to the sprawling King of Prussia shopping mall outside Philadelphia. “I cannot express too strongly my overwhelming sense of existential alienation and horror when confronted with those lavishly stocked stores,” she says. There is nothing she can identify with in the women’s department, or the men’s. “It is completely inconsequential that I have attained a certain status as professor and author of eight books. At King of Prussia, my identity is completely wiped out—erased! ....

R7 LOL, maybe 30 years ago I would've agreed with you (Sexual Personae, though I haven't read all of it has a lot of insight and is clearly written by someone with a wealth of information and deduction skills). However today's Camille is a "cuntrarian" who thrives on victim-blaming and victim-shaming. An educated Katie Hopkins basically.

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The same year, she published an op-ed article lauding the pop singer Madonna as “the true feminist,” who “exposes the puritanism and suffocating ideology of American feminism, which is stuck in an adolescent whining mode.” The op-ed incensed the “prudish” feminist establishment. Ms. Paglia has since soured on Madonna, who she says was “once refreshingly sane in her teasing affection for men” but has now undergone a “collapse into rote male-bashing.”

Ms. Paglia laments that the “antisex and repressively doctrinaire side of feminism is back again—big!” She calls it “victim feminism” and complains that “everything we’d won in the 1990s has been totally swept away. Now we have this endless privileging of victimhood, with a pathological vulnerability seen as the default human mode.” Everyone is made to cater to it—“in the workplace, in universities, in the demand for safe spaces.”

As a teacher of undergraduates, Ms. Paglia despairs at how “bad it is for young people, filled with fears, to be raised in this kind of a climate where personal responsibility isn’t spoken of.” Since her own youth, she says, college students have devolved from rebels into skittish supplicants, petitioning people in authority to protect them from real life. Young adults are encouraged to look for “substitute parent figures on campus, which is what my generation rebelled against in college. We threw that whole ‘in loco parentis’ thing out.”

There’s an undeniable irony in hearing a septuagenarian, from a generation that was famously preoccupied with youth, deplore the state of today’s young people. “Our parents were the World War II generation,” Ms. Paglia says, “so they had a sense of reality about life.” Children now “are raised in a far more affluent period. Even people without much money have cellphones, televisions, access to cars. They’re raised in an air-conditioned environment. I can still remember when there was no air-conditioning.” She shudders as she sips her cold beer, adding that she suffered horribly in the heat.

“Everything is so easy now,” Ms. Paglia continues. “The stores are so plentifully supplied. You just go in and buy fruits and vegetables from all over the world.” Undergrads, who’ve studied neither economics nor history, “have a sense that this is the way life has always been. Because they’ve never been exposed to history, they have no idea that these are recent attainments that come from a very specific economic system.”

Capitalism, she continues, has “produced this cornucopia around us. But the young seem to believe in having the government run everything, and that the private companies that are doing things for profit around them, and supplying them with goods, will somehow exist forever.”

... Although she doesn’t use the phrase herself, you can call Ms. Paglia a feminist capitalist. “While I believe that boom-and-bust capitalism is inherently Darwinian and requires moderate regulation for the long-term greater good,” she says, “I insist that capitalism has produced the glorious emancipation of women.” They can now “support themselves and live on their own, and no longer must humiliatingly depend on father or husband.”

So why do young women feel victimized? Ms. Paglia cites the near-extinction of “body language” among the young and its impact on sexual relations on campus. The “loss of body language” starts in middle and high school, “where there’s total absorption in social media and projected images on Instagram, and so on. So they don’t know how to read each other, physically.”

She’s right about the woke people having no other frame of reference but prosperity and no knowledge of history, and also about the terrible trend of students who refuse to take personal responsibility.

I don't understand how going to a clothing store and seeing nothing that appeals to you makes you feel "erased."

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A very American take. The majority of (young) people around the planet do not live within a capitalism-generated “cornucopia.”

Well, R36, it's not as though Camille is teaching orphans from Darfur, who are too hungry to be able to think clearly.

[quote]it's not as though Camille is teaching orphans from Darfur

Oh for the love of God, don't give that woman any ideas!

Where does it say she's "transgender"? I must be missing something.

R39 In the article, Camille self identifies as transgender and has felt this way since childhood.

Thanks, R40.

She is and always has been the ultimate attention whore. She had her moment during contrarian-chic in the 90s. That was more than enough.

It would be a fun class I think, although I might be thinking damn this bitch takes Madonna way too seriously. But of course nobody can have fun anymore. Too busy forming a committee of the perpetually aggrieved and looking for wrongthink to punish.

I can never follow her - she talks a mile a minute and floats from one topic and reference to another. It's this intellectual word soup - each time you pick up your spoon, you get another intellectual point or reference.

She's incoherent but throws in enough meat and inflammatory statements to make her interesting. It's a good scam that some people have fallen for.

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Feminist academic Camille Paglia is notorious for marching to her own beat. Her recent interview in the academic journal Interfaces Brazil/Canada is no exception.

Per usual, Paglia is asked several questions about today’s hot topics, including feminism, censorship, and the current state of civilization. The questioning gets personal, however, when the subject turns to transgenderism, as Paglia herself claims the label of “transgender.”

The interesting thing about Paglia is that she refuses to treat transgenderism as a badge of victimhood and cause for special treatment. Instead, she points out the problems societal fawning over transgenderism likely brings. Such an attitude has caused her to be labeled “transphobic.” But as Paglia explains, this label is overblown:

[T]ransphobia, like homophobia, is a psychological condition. This clinical term has been wrongly appropriated and distorted by political ideologues, who have injected it with a crusading moralism. A phobia is a compulsive, all-consuming fear or obsession, sometimes produced by an unconscious attraction to the very thing that is feared. Merely expressing a rational critique of transgender or gay activism does not make anyone transphobic or homophobic. [Emphasis added.]

Such a statement sheds light on why Paglia is not afraid to raise questions about the transgender movement. Indeed, her status as a transgender insider may actually help her see the problems in a clearer light. She lists several reasons for her questioning of transgender activism.

1. It Hinders Human Rights

Gender transitions have become more prevalent for children in the last several years. Part of this process involves puberty blockers, which Paglia “consider[s] a violation of human rights.”

“Children are not equipped to make an informed choice about medical matters and must rely on the wisdom and prudence of adults,” Paglia proclaims. Having wrestled with the desire to be masculine as a child, Paglia has firsthand experience with this issue and wonders what would have happened had sex-change surgery been readily available to her as a child.

Paglia goes on to say:

The long-term effects of puberty blockers are uncharted and unknown. Why would any ethical society perform medical experiments on children? I predict that the future will look back at this moment with incredulity.

2. It Ignores Biology

Paglia doesn’t mince words when it comes to this point. “Sex change is literally impossible,” she says. “[E]very cell of our bodies, except for the blood, remains coded with our birth gender for life.” She suggests that those who pursue gender reassignment are acting out in rebellion, instead of living out how they were born, as many insist is the case.

3. It Leads to Repression

Finally, Paglia implies that failure to critically question one’s own viewpoints creates a consuming ideology. This has happened to the political left which is “so consumed by its own ideology that it claims repressive and dictatorial powers over both private and public life.” Doing so, notes Paglia, drives people toward the opposing political side via reaction rather than reasoned thought.

In a politically correct world, Paglia’s thoughts on transgenderism run counterculture. Yet coming from the inside of transgenderism, does she have insight that many of us could never have? Given this, wouldn’t we be wise to heed her advice, and exercise caution before encouraging children to question their gender and make irreversible changes to their bodies?

Does anyone think she’s bipolar? The fast talking, the over emotional anger, all of it, reminds me bipolar disorder.

Bipolar or tenured.

Yeah, she speaks really fast. But I like that she makes up her own mind. Of course they want to get her fired and/or cancelled.

He is just more proof that gay men are women, lesbians are men, and homosexuality is a form of gender dysphoria.

R27, you're very good at summarizing articles. I wish you could provide that service in every thread.

Does anyone else remember the NYC public access show in the 90s where Camille Paglia confronted the SIGN THE PETITION lady with the Hustler meat grinder signs and she cowered away and ran down the street?

Camille continued to go at her yelling, "Look at you! You're shrinking."

Why is she so successful? I consider myself to be a fairly obnoxious personality and a bit difficult to work with....but I’m nothing like this cunt. She’s so annoying & obnoxious & so often just plain wrong....why is she famous?

She transitioned & she’s now known as Roman Polanski

Is she still denying the current anthropogenic climate change on the grounds that geological history shows the climate has often changed?

Genius indeed. Big fan of Rush Limbaugh, too; called him a "major intellectual influence."

An oldie but a goodie! Camille is NOT HAVING IT with Hillary and her wormwood tits!

Has Tracey Ullman parodied her? I think she'd be a perfect fit.

These Right Wing trolls are a bunch of FREaKS. They post every transperson you’ve never heard of and try to make it a big deal. Who cares about someone transitioning? More power to them.

R57 Paglia isn’t someone you’ve never heard of. She’s had several books published and writes columns for either Slate or Salon. She is impossible to dismiss by pigeonholing because she has both “left” and “right” opinions. She provacative and annoying but makes good points about the trans silliness in her last book….I think it was called “Women and Men.” Maybe “Men and Women.”

Exactly r57. How dare you??!!! Who do you think you are, Susan Sontag?!

Also, she's not actually transitioning. It's all very internal and blah, blah, blah male power.

Male Power! Listen to Alexyss K. Tylor tell you about the power of dick.

Oh, that is funny r60. Also it would make a great euphemism: "Damn I need to SLAP somebody today!"

Alexyss is a goddamn legend.

She’s been saying this for years.

Nothing new here. Just a slow news day.

transcripts on cspan under same title. this is why

I've never read a word they've written or listened to them or done more than skim articles about thrm. But I love thier persona and thinks they are fabulous because they are a flaming contrarian.

I think she's more relevant now than she was in her heyday. Everything she said has come true.

I am confused about her defense of boylove. That part is still strange.

Although not written by her, this book is a great culmination of Paglia's work in academia. A must read. Currently has nearly 3,000 positive reviews on Amazon.

Sexual Personae is a must read.

The rest is noise.

Correct, R67.

[quote]She's one of the smartest women of our time. That seems to scare DL for some reason.

Not surprising that you think a smart woman is one who hates other women. That fits perfectly on DL.

[quote]She's one of the smartest women of our time. That seems to scare DL for some reason.

Is this poster posting from 1991?

So she lives in her head and is out of touch with her sexuality and jumped on board with the transgender movement. Yawn. She tried to hitch her wagon to Madonna's star years ago to keep herself in the public eye. I thought her comments blaming female rape victims - which she essentially did - were disgusting. And A44 I quite agree.

She hates blue-eyed blondes. Which is the same as hating a person for their race, but sshhhh!

She always looks dirty

Et tu, Camille.

She never fails to amuse, that little performing flea of academia.

R74 is…….

I love her. I read Sexual Personae change the life of this small town teen and I have grown to live art and storytelling all the more because of Camille Paglia.

Is she taking T?

maybe she is quietly transitioning,,, haven't heard from her much publicly in the past couple of years.

Caligula?

Just for publicity. Anyone can claim they are transgender without even losing a testicle or a boob.

So is her hatred for men self-hatred in reality?

WEll, yes, R84, it's called "Self ID", and it is law in many Western countries now.

R35 Hahahaha!

I love Camille, I don’t care what anyone says about her.

She is the post child of the ivory tower elite. All she does is bloviate. You’re not that interesting or important, sweetheart. Get a real job.

Everything you said would come true as well if you bothered to argue everybody with both sides of everything. She's a tiresome huckster. She had her moment. I can't believe she has a prominent university teaching position. Her babbling on and on can only soft boil young brains. No wonder students want a frustrating, blabbering, pointless, egomaniacal poseur out.

What are her pronouns?

[quote] So is her hatred for men self-hatred in reality?

Camille loves men. That’s why feminists hate her. You’re an idiot.

Not that it's super exciting, but what's a shenis? Is it a fake innie that pops outtie at parties? Can it be peed from? When aroused, can it be a form of embarrassment like an unwanted and untimely erection?