Judge Rules!- Brad Pitt awarded joint custody of the kids

What will Bunny Boiler now?

What will Maleficent do now?

Great for Brad! Angie is psycho.

I guess since they're rich they can afford to indulge in all of this stuff, but even the youngest kids will of age in 5 years and free to do or go wherever they want. She really hates him that much she couldn't just ride out some shared arrangement for a bit longer?

Luna will pay someone to have Brad rubbed out.

No she couldn't, R4, because if she doesn't have exclusive rights to them, one or more of her daughters may decide she's not really a boy after all. Can't have that!

Poor Dame Angie. No moving to the UK to reunite with her bestie gay William Hague, who was going to help get her elected as a MP. That is why she is so furious- she thought she could pack up Brad's kids and move them across the pond.

Not so fast Angie! You are NO DIFFERENT than any ordinary divorced parent - Judges don't let one parent take the kids overseas and prevent the other parent from having shared custody.

She threw every trick at him and none of it stuck. Judges are getting tired of women pulling the "abused" card when they were anything but. It gets easy to spot lying whores after awhile.

I wonder what this cost her? $$$ She isn't working and heroin doesn't pay for it's damn self.

Five years and four million dollars later, 50/50 custody. They should have gone to mediation.

Sad thing is that all 6 kids are 5 years older.

I'm not a fan of Brad Pitt. He's a fame whore, however, he did have a right to 50/50 custody ... 5 years ago.

[quote] Not so fast Angie!

Not so fast, von Ryan!

"They should have gone to mediation."

That would have been the sensible thing to do, but when you're filthy rich you don't have to be sensible! You can just spend millions and millions trying to get your own way, rather than being sensible!

I get the idea she's probably vindictive as hell.

R13- Wasn't he already seeing another woman? Did he cheat/ leave her? He looked miserable on their wedding day. She is acting like a woman scorned, wounded ego.

The next time we see Angelina, she'll likely be striding through some Palestinian refugee camp, looking sad & forlorn with one (or more) of the kids in tow, telling reporters that she's trying to teach her children about the pain of the world (or some such nonsense), unlike their father who just wants them to hang around the pool all summer or watch Netfix. Cue big tears running down her emaciated cheek.

Smegs could take a lesson from Angelina - now that woman knows how to manipulate the press.

Now that he's sobered up, he's entitled to 50/50. 5 years ago when he was fucked up...NO.

He ain't straight ffs.

[quote] Smegs could take a lesson from Angelina

Smegs?

Has she even got any friends in the US? All her energy is invested abroad.

[quote]She is acting like a woman scorned, wounded ego.

I really feel so bad for her. The poor, miserable thing.

Oh god, is she wanting to become a British national then?

But still, ya gotta wonder what he did and to who on that plane.

Yes, R21. But thanks to the family court judge, Britain has been spared the glorious arrival of (future) Queen Angelina for the past 5 years and for the next 5 years (the twins are 12).

Brad always wins. What he wants, he gets.

I'm not sure he *really* wants the kids though. Visitation rights, sure. I think this was more about beating her. I think he loved the idea of fatherhood more than actually being a father.

R23 Thank goodness for that!

I take it that she wants to come over here, get a shiny blue passport, so that she can use the whole Dame Angelina thing, then William Hague will get her a nice safe Conservative seat for her to stand in?

Was there ever anything to this "... going to the UK and becoming a member of Parliament" shit?

I mean, who in the UK would vote for a crazy American celebrity?

[quote]I take it that she wants to come over here, get a shiny blue passport, so that she can use the whole Dame Angelina thing

Maybe she heard that the BRF lost their resident loon & attention whore, so she's offered to fill both roles

R26 British Conservative voters would vote for a cabbage if it had a blue rosette on it come election time.

Hague would find her a safe seat in in leafy Surrey near to her beloved Richmond, Surrey.

Our national nightmare is over!

I love you, r11!

Every celebrity from Joan Crawford on who adopts multiple children by themselves is always a loony-tunes: Mia Farrow, Rosie O'Donnell, Madonna, and Angelina. They were not loved enough as children, and so they develop weird personality disorders, and wind up picking up children randomly to fill their loneliness.

It's interesting too how none of them ever develop satisfactory relationships in real life with romantic partners. At some level they feel they are unlovable.

[quote] picking up children randomly to fill their loneliness.

Not randomly. There’s a catalog!

A coward.

I find her attempts to destroy his reputation untenable.

No matter what he did, that would destroy all of the children's future chances at so many things: it could damage his financial stability, standing in Hollywood (which now runs on nepotism), but more than that- it exposes their private psychological issues which could harm their future employment.

They're now all likely out of state service and security clearance at many levels, because their private information is public. Everyone they meet now knows intimate information that they don't get to choose to share when they please. No normal family will want their child marrying into or getting involved in this.

It's just so beyond selfish and destructive.

[quote] I find her attempts to destroy his reputation untenable.

Mary!

Team Angie. Her ex in-laws are narrowed minded homophobes.

[quote] Hollywood (which now runs on nepotism)

Now?

It is interesting how much her life has been like Mia Farrow's.

They were both raised as Hollywood royalty, with a famous handsome alcoholic father who was not present enough when growing up, and a beautiful mother. They both became famous for their beauty as well as for their raw acting talent when very young, and became scandalously involved with a much older man with his own enormous emotional problems (Frank Sinatra for Mia, Billy Bob Thornton for Angelina).

They had biological children with later husbands, but also by themselves adopted orphans from developing nations, which they did with great public fanfare in order to promote an international image of themselves as Lady Bountiful. They both leaned heavily on high-level connections they developed with famous political figures during this period.

Then, when a later romantic partner left them, they became pathologically obsessed with turning their children and the public against that man.

I’m scared what Angelina will do now.. prob a leaked audio of him shouting at his kids, a sit down interview with Oprah or sexual accusations with his daughters..

[quote]I’m scared what Angelina will do now.. prob a leaked audio of him shouting at his kids, a sit down interview with Oprah or sexual accusations with his daughters..

It's even worse... he misgendered the trans kids.

R36, she was happy to cuddle up to those homophobes when it was PR time.

R36,umm Angelina’s brother is born again youth minister of Saddleback Church which is founded by Rick Warren and she allowed him to be the head nanny of her kids for years....

And her father is a deplorable wingnut, but every single time she's campaigned for an Oscar, she has a story about how they've reconciled.

None of the kids are trans. Shiloh now dresses like the average 14 year old girl.

Doesn’t mean a thing R41. It’s Hollywood bullshit. Doesn’t mean she wants her kids exposed to someone who condemned Obama for supporting same-sex marriage.

Try harder.

[quote]Five years and four million dollars later, 50/50 custody. They should have gone to mediation.

How could they go to mediation when Jolie was hell bent on going scorched earth on him. There was no way she would ever go to mediation, that would imply she wanted to work toward a mutually agreeable solution. Nope.

This was always going to go to full trial, given her insistence on having near full custody, or even full physical custody. She is nuts, and vengeful. The children were the last weapon she could beat Pitt with. So glad it finally over.

R45, she "exposes" them to her own homophobic Obama hating father. At least she says she does when she's looking for awards.

She also shows up on the homophobic 700 Club when she has a movie to sell to evangelicals.

So you try harder.

Believe me, it won't be over until their youngest child together has graduated from college. I've seen that happen time and again when couples divorce and one of them sees their children together (consciously or unconsciously) as a means to punish the ex.

Wrong again R47.

Oh, and fuck off too.

LOL. Explain why Jon Voight gets to see his grandkids but Momma Pitt can't then.

Oh for fucks sake!

Is this bullshit finally over and are these two assholes finally going to spend time equal time with their poor children, who have been dragged through the most expensive mud to have ever existed in the free world???

It is far from over Angelina will now destroy Brad.

Soon, Angelina is going to spontaneously combust into a tiny pile of sharp bones, sinewy veins and feathers. This because she must be starting to accept she cannot take the 12 year old twins away from LA.

In light of the Covid pandemic, Brad would be in the right to reuse to allow his minor children to travel to the continents of Asia and Africa, even for brief poverty porn trips where they will frolic briefly with the impoverished.

Brad will definitely put the joint into joint custody.

It’s interesting that in recent years most of her acting jobs are in the uk and she will soon direct a movie staring Tom Hardy which is set over there as well.

Over there! Over there!

R24 can it, tuna can. Angelia is so emaciated and iron deficient, her skin so rice paper thin that I imagine a mild breeze hurts her. He did not beat her. She's a lying skeleton.

Who else thinks that Angie is going to defy the court, fly the kids overseas somewhere, and start the custody fight all over again?

Joint custody! Shiloh,bring me the axe!

Look. FYI: After Angie ghosted him, walked off that plane and went right to a rental house she had already set up and planned, she made sure she leaked all the details of his dust up with Maddox who was 16 at the time. She emphasized that she was terrified of Brad, and that he drank too much, etc. Bad, to his credit, stopped drinking, joined AA, went to counseling and worked hard to regain the confidence of his kids. He was under a court order thanks to her charges, that he could only see the kids under supervised visits. So there was a 3rd party in the room when he spent time with his kids. He endured that for at least two years, with good grace. He and Maddox may still be estranged because Angie did everything in her power to make sure she was photo'd going to plays and toy stores and doing fun things with her tribe of kids and Brad was rarely ever photo'd with them. Maddox, as the eldest had a lot of influence over his siblings. So Brad had very had time getting past all the venom she spewed tying to influence the kids against him. But he did the work. And he never stopped trying to give those kids stability and showing them love. The court finally allowed him to go ahead. She kept throwing up obstacles to the visitation. but finally under pressure she relented. Why was Brad critical of her? Because he didn't want the little kids going to refugee camps, and he didn't like the lifestyle. The kids had no friends but one another. They were always traveling. They had multiple houses but no real home. They didn't attend real school for any length of time, except the Lycee Fancais. He wanted them to get socialized. Go to school. Make friends, and find a home anywhere but let that be home base. He had some very reasonable requests but she's not stable and her entire persona is wrapped up in the kids. She almost uses them as props.

[quote] joined AA

Did he really? Imagine Brad Pitt showing up to one's AA group.

Imagine Brad Pitt showing up at gay AA with whiffy queens announcing their resentments over his abandonment of Jen.

“I’m not taking your inventory, but how could you leave Jen for that WHORE????”

I believe Bradley Cooper was his sponsor for AA.

Angelina is ugly. Bitch looks like Christopher Walken.

Remember this? Billy Bob finally confessed that they didn’t really f in the car and Jolie just told him to say it for the cameras..

Yikes Ronan Farrow tweeted about it

R59 Angelina, for all her bravado, wouldn't dare break the law and abduct the children. She would end up in jail. Can you imagine - perhaps they could have her bunk with Giselle Maxwell at the fed jail in NYC.

The minute she tries to spirit the minor kids away out of the country, without permission, Interpol would be waiting to pick them up and take them right back to their father in LA. And she's be in a ton of trouble. The US has reciprocal treaties with dozens of countries that cover child custody and kidnapping.

Give it time, and one of the younger kids will pull a Rocco Ritchie. They'll go to Brad's for the weekend, and simply not return to their Mom's. They'll just stay, and come back to Angie's for visits, if that. She'll go crazy and try to fight it, but by that point it won't matter.

I think this will hurt Angelina’s career. She will be seen negatively and I feel she will be vindictive until the day she does. Too bad Brad fell for her.

r58 I meant beating her in court, dumbfuck.

This cunt must know that the public is against her when it comes to this custody case and that it's siding with Brad, right? I mean, hasn't she a full pr team that goes through comment sections and gossip boards as part of her strategy to see where she stands and what to do next?

Yes, Ang is constantly photographed with the kids, and Brad is not.

Which has made me assume that Pitt is the better parent for years!

Seriously, can anything be worse for developing kids, than to have the whole fucking world discuss their looks, education, intelligence, health, sexual orientation and gender identification, taste in clothes, etc? Ang is the one who's let them in for all that.

Ugh, Ronan Farrow ought to take his mommy issues elsewhere; if there's anyone who is a *winner* in all of this shit, it's the kids because now they can maintain whatever their current schedule is as opposed to having everything switched up. I'm sure both Brad & Angie are crazy & unbearable in their own way, but at least they kids aren't forced to choose one or the other

I think Brad is the more stable parent of the two, but sadly he has probably already lost the overall war. The kids have mainly been with her and they’re 5 years older.

Someone pointed out that Brad was in love with idea of being a father, than actually being a father, maybe. We really don’t know much about his relationship with his kids. I do think he’s a bad picker. I never really bought into his relationship with Aniston. People romanticized it after they split, but they never seemed connected. Angelina Jolie was just a train wreck. They looked miserable before marrying. I actually think he had the most chemistry with Paltrow. Though I doubt they would’ve lasted even if they did marry. He is someone that always had to go for the hottest actress of the moment. Which is sort of insane given he is a huge star in his own right. I think he would have been happier in marriage and parenthood had he just married someone out of show business.

It kinda looks like Ronan is hinting on a deep (bias)investigation on this to cancel Wood er I mean Brad..

R75, Pitt probably would have been happier on a personal level if he'd done what Matt Damon did, marry some little nobody who pumps out kids and who lives to please him.

But he's always skated over the rough spots in his career by being part of a "power couple", the relationships with Paltrow and Aniston kept him famous and popular even when his films flopped, and then the thing with Ang made him one of the most famous men in the entire world! Okay, fine, lots of people make their career a higher priority than personal happiness, but don't drag kids into that shit.

Angelina clearly had her reasons for not wanting Brad to have joint custody. We have no idea what these men are really like at home. 10 years ago I thought Johnny Depp was practically a saint but now I know what we know. Not that Amber Heard is perfect either.

Poor Angelina.

[quote] Matt Damon did, marry some little nobody who pumps out kids and who lives to please him.

Rabbits are excellent at pumping out offspring.

Why do you feel sorry for Angie, R78? Because she has to share custody with the kid's father?

Sure, he's imperfect, but so is she. It's just that she's put all her flaws on public display, sometimes intentionally and sometimes not, and he's tried to hide is.

R80, He is abusive. Why would Angelina be against joint custody if she didn’t have a reason to be?

r75 He was never more in love than with Paltrow. People forget because she's so annoying and unlikeable now, but he was utterly besotted with her. Aniston was a rebound/placeholder that went too far.

This is the proof that her fans have been circulating that the kids esp Pax despised Brad..

"Why would Angelina be against joint custody if she didn’t have a reason to be?"

Uh, because she's very likely to be crazy, vindictive, and/or narcissistic?

No, in the real world some people try to take the kids away from ex-partners who are perfectly competent parents out of spite or viciousness, or because they just don't want an ex in their lives. It happens all the time and you've probably seen it in real life if you've ever left your mother's basement.

R81 Money, control. Those would be the big two. I wouldn't assume anything about Brad Pitt's behavior because of a custody fight. Well, other than he doesn't seem to exploit the kids with pap walks.

R61 seems right on target. That Hollywood seems to be completely on his side says a lot.

I agree that Angie is over. Fraus still haven't forgiven Angie for steaking Brad from America's sweetheart.

"That Hollywood seems to be completely on his side says a lot."

If Hollywood is on his side, it's probably because they think he'll make the entertainment industry more money in the years to come than she will.

And seriously, how can she afford an army of servants and nannies and a massive house for them all, when she's making so few films, and has so few hits on her resume? That's probably one reason she wanted full custody, it'd mean Pitt had to pay a lot of her massive ongoing expenses.

Look. Angelina needs those kids for the sake of her image as Santa Angelina. She has them photographed at malls, in stores, in restaurants, at shows, etc. Brad was always the disciplinarian. But Angelina would undermine him with Maddox. Pax idolizes Maddox. It isn't one bit surprising to me she would try to block him from seeing the kids. They are her props. She always used Maddox to compete with Brad because the kids liked Maddox and he and Mom have a "special" relationship. She was jealous of Brad and didn't want her kids to love him or be closer to him than they were to her. She is very insecure and mentally unstable.

R77, yes and no. When he dated Paltrow he was HUGE. He was at his peak and when he finally broke through. After those string of hits, he cemented his place on the A- list. Paltrow benefitted more from him. Aniston was big, but he made her bigger. She was known as a tv actress before they got together. I do think he definitely got more attention from these relationships than he would have had he been with someone unknown.

R82, Definitely. I even remember one of his award speeches where he said she was the love of his life. They came from similar backgrounds in terms both being close to their still intact families. Aniston and Jolie both had estrangements from one of their parents. Interestingly enough, all three women came from acting/show business families.

His other serious relationship- Juliette Lewis also came from a acting/ show business family.

Paltrow was always so incredibly average looking. Brad was definitely the better looking one in that relationship. Oh and Brad's parents are both very nice looking. His dad must have been quite a looker in his younger days.

There are AAs for the glitterati so they don't have to slum with the plebs. The fact that Brad was tight w Chris Cornell indicates he prob was involved w celeb AA or out patient counselling for drugs and alcohol long before the infamous airplane incident w Mads and Ang. Let's be honest...anyone having to put up with Ang would prob need to have a coule drinks at least. Tell me again how she is completely sober?? Right mommy xanax??

Can you imagine Brad Pitt in AA with fking Demi Lovato? Omg...

R63: " I’m not taking your inventory, but how could you leave Jen for that WHORE????” 😂😂😂😂

Blind item from enty is Ronan Farrow her friend?

I have a feeling one of the adopted kids will fake an injury and blame it on brad

Or if he picks up the kids, she'll say he assaulted her

If I were him, I'd get drug tested every week, have my hair tested every month and I'd have an off duty police officer pickup/drop off the kids and maybe even hire them as security when the kids are over '

She's a crazy bitch. And he knew and couldn't get enough. He deserves all of it

bump

The adopted kids are older & likely Team Angie; it's really the bio kids he's fighting for. Pax hates him & the 2nd asian kid sounded troubled, even before their marriage went into the ditch

Do you have a link, R42? The same brother she used to French kiss at events? Wondered what had become of him.

Why was there a “bump” at R97 a minute after R96?

[quote] Omg...

Dyatlov right?

r78 You don't genuinely mean that. Stop pretending you do.

Angie will keep fighting this until the day Knox and Vivienne turn 18. She has to, now--she's gone so all-in with the message that Brad is an abusive alcoholic, to let him have joint custody now would, in her mind, invalidate everything she's said over the last 5 years.

It wouldn't, of course: People can change, and Brad has very clearly taken serious steps to get his issues under control. Angelina will never see it that way. She's too wrapped up in the Saint Angie crap. When the kids do finally fly the nest (all except Maddox who will never leave), she probably will have a complete meltdown OR try to adopt more kids.

She really is Mia Farrow all over again. No wonder Ronan is defending her.

There are plenty of us who were used as pawns in a split/divorce. My mother was a Borderline and parental alienation was her specialty.

I see you, Saint Angelina.

Who do we think is most likely to pull a Rocco Ritchie? My vote is on Shiloh.

^maybe the boy too, whatever his name is...

Yeah, I think this is mainly about his bio kids. If it was just the adopted ones, I think he would’ve walked away. Not because they’re adopted but because they seem more like hers. So c’est la vie. He has a better chance of rebuilding relationships with the bio kids. I do wonder if he’ll have more kids. Don’t want to hear about age because many of these celebrities father kids in their 60s and 70s.

No matter she can manipulate the kids in the here & now. As they age & have their own opinions based on no longer being isolated w. Mommy Scariest, it will mean the world to them that Dad fought for them.

He spent years & oodles of money for them. They will know they were loved by him. He really wanted them in his life. He could have shrugged, shagged some new young hottie & made new even prettier babies, & walked away. He didn't. He stayed the course, fought for them. When you grow up, open your eyes & get your own mind ,not the mind Mommy S. has tried to brainwash into you, that matters Lots.

R99, There are several articles about it on google just search “James Haven Saddleback church” Here is one of them:

He and Anniston parted as loving friends. No venom. But he had tears in his eyes during an interview when he said he wanted to have kids, have a family. It was during the Oceans 11 stuff, he said he hoped to have kids and raise a family of his own, he loved kids. He also said at another time, that he felt that he ought to be doing more with his life. He wanted a purpose. He was inspired by Matt Damon and Clooney who both were social activists. Anniston never wanted to have kids, not even to adopting them, and at that time she was not a political or social conscience type at all.

The rumor is that Zahara is actually Brad's favorite. He'll have a relationship with the 4 youngest. He may even forge a connection with Pax one day. Maddox is a lost cause though and always was. He was there before Brad and was probably never happier than the day Brad moved out.

I agree that Brad should have found a pretty, nurturing makeup artist or publicist or something and married her. Someone industry adjacent who understood the life but wouldn't want the limelight herself. He could have given his children with that sort of woman a more normal home and childhood: No vagabonding around Europe and Africa for pics and clicks.

If you think about it, this may be the first time that anyone has set any kind of boundaries for Angelina. Her mother let her do whatever she wanted even as a young teenager and her father was never around. Once she was famous, of course, any remaining strings on her behavior disappeared. Now she has to do what Brad wants and what the judge has ordered. Given her raging Daddy issues, of course she hates Brad with a passion now.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Zahara will be the one to accused him of sexual abuse next. Angie uses to say in her old interviews that they all sleep in one big bed together and now something so innocent will tarnish for Angie’s benefits.

Thanks, R109, I was looking under "Voit" could not remember the name he went by. Saddleback, yikes. Prosperity gospel and hating gays if I remember correctly?

You mean Voight?

Yeah, that was likely part of the problem, but sure was not looking under Haven.

[quote] He and Anniston parted as loving friends. No venom.... He wanted a purpose. He was inspired by Matt Damon and Clooney who both were social activists.

Mary!

[quote] The rumor is that Zahara is actually Brad's favorite.

She would be my favorite, even though parents should not have obvious favorites.

I'm basing my opinions on photos only. Zahara seems the most normal and like she's caring and cognizant of what's going on around her.

Some of the others seem quite angry or a bit flat in affect. She seems to have a bit of a bubbly personality.

No dog in the fight. However, I do think Angie and Brad were a beautiful couple. Brad is a midwestern guy who essentially wants to sit around drinking beer, and watching sports. He bit off more than he could chew with Angie. She screams high maintenance. I've always believed Aniston is a lesbian, which is why I'm sure Brad found her "boring".

Maddox has an abnormally close attachment to his "savior" who plucked him away from his father and family. He may never have a relationship with Brad.

The other Asian kid has been groomed by Maddox to hate Brad and he is a lost cause, at least for now.

Shiloh may start spending more time with Brad, especially if he lets her wear what she wants, be it a dress or skirt (and pays for them).

Hopefully the twins, due to their age, haven't been assimilated like a borg into the hive, and will be happy to see their dad.

Please Brad has only dated progressively more famous people since he arrived in Hollywood. He'll never date a nobody. Or a has been

Update :Brad is on guard on what she will do next:

I read from paralegals that her appeal might come through and the judge should recuse because of him stating “she lacked credibility” its a big nono for some reason?

This is something I've seen before, straight guys knowingly getting involved with women who are crazy, psychobitchy, pure evil, or seriously unstable. The thing is, they see the problem, but if the woman is attractive and the sex is good, they just don't care that she's crazy or evil! They don't think it's a problem, or a problem that will effect them! Of course she usually does, she takes over his life or ruins his life when he dumps her or drags the custody battle out until the kids are in their twenties, whatever.

I've seen this in real life many times, and not just with these two spoiled idiots. What the hell is wrong with straight men, that they ignore all the red flags in the world?

I hope Angie is pissed. I can't stand her.

R122, you may be right. Although, he might have been put through the ringer at this point and given up on celebrity dating. Also he’s like what 57-58? He isn’t going to be popping up with the hottest young up and coming actress.

R125, me too. And if you point it out gently, they cut you off.

Oh well. As Judge Judy tells people who call their exes “psycho”: “well, you married her”

Brad is a white Knight and deep down he believes he can rescues them from their estranged parents( Angelina, Jennifer) Predator producer (Paltrow), wild teen years (Juliette Lewis) abusive husband(Givens) because he grew up in an idyllic home with stability.

R124 that is the stupidest thing I've ever read. The fact finder (in this case THE JUDGE) determines credibility. That's how they weigh evidence.

Either you are a troll or your paralegal friends are.

because it’s a “serous opinion any judge would make” I'm confuse as well.

R110, are you serious? He and Jennifer A. did not part as friends. He did a photo shoot with Jolie surrounded by kids. They also had paps shots (I’m sure arranged) on a beach with Maddox. He said he was unhappy in the marriage and his life was boring and pointless with Jennifer. She said he was missing a emotional chip. It wasn’t until he split with Jolie that they became friendly. I never thought Aniston was head over heels in love with him, she’s a bit asexual to me, but he publicly humiliated her.

I don’t think Aniston ever wanted kids. If she did she would have had them. Heck, with technology and her money, she could even have them now, but she hasn’t. I remember when Friends was ending she was asked in an interview about having kids now that the show was over. She looked like a deer in headlights. I knew a split was coming. Jolie dangled the baby thing and Brad fell for it.

Supposedly Maddox (the oldest kid) is going to college in Korea. I'm surprised he's leave his old mom alone, in her time of need

[quote] I don’t think Aniston ever wanted kids. If she did she would have had them.

She had at least one miscarriage while she was married to Brad. Jennifer may not have really wanted kids, but she was at least trying to have one for her husband

[quote] Brad is a white Knight

He’s white?

[quote] read from paralegals that her appeal might come through and the judge should recuse because of him stating “she lacked credibility” its a big nono for some reason?

Determining which witnesses are credible and which ones aren't is a huge function of the trial judge (in a bench trial as this was) . In a bench trial the judge decides the facts and applies the law. This is a very seasoned judge who before he retired and became a "private" judge handled everything from homicide cases to family court.

I really want to read his decision. It's now in a procedural stage whereby the parties are asked if they want to suggest changes before it is formally filed as a final court ruling/order. Custody orders can be very, very detailed (how holidays & birthdays are celebrated, schooling, medical, transportation, hair cutting, you name it - it could be in there) and with someone like Jolie who has already violated past court orders and finagled parenting time away from Pitt by trickery and sheer audacity, Pitt needs the protection of a detailed and non-ambiguous court order which can give him a platform to bring her back to court if need be.

I think those paralegal are confused.

another update: I wonder if Angelina will be successful in her appeal?

Please stop using The Sun as a source. They don't know shit.

Jolie is appealing the fact that her attempt to get the judge disqualified was denied. That may have already been denied at the lower appellate level. If there has already been a denial of a lower level appeal she can appeal that appeal denial. But the Supreme Court of California takes very few cases and for only vey specific reasons.

Her appeal journeys do not toll the enforcement of the final custody order. That order is in effect as soon as the judge signs/files the order.

Jolie can also appeal the custody decision. Again that has to go through appellate levels. This is a smart judge who I am sure has written a detailed and legally sound basis for his decision. It seems Jolie feels that everyone is wrong except her. Basing her complaint on the fact that the judge did not allow the children to testify under oath at trial (and be subjected to cross examination) and possibly be forced by her attorney to state which parent they prefer in a case where the judge has already ruled that the mother has been practicing parental alienation against the father is a losing argument. Any court of appeal would defer to the trial judge who made his decision based on all the evidence at his disposal including the over 4 years of interviews, observations, conversations with these children. There is absolutely no need to have children testify at trial.

Considering the dirty games she has been playing for over 4 years I would put nothing past her to get her way. She passed irrational 3 years ago.

they are trying reunification now. Angelina really has exhausted everything. the court has to move to reunification. it terribly destructive what she did.

Blast from the past:

I always viewed Pitt as just eyecandy with no brain or moral compass. However, I must say, he would have got more nasty tabloid clicks just moving onto Newest Hottie & making new prettier babies.

But no, he spent oodles of time, cash & bad press @ times to fight for his children, even his non-bio ones. I like this guy.

No matter what happens in their lives, these kids can look back & say my dad loved me. He didn't have to spend all that dosh to fight for me. Talk about an esteem builder! In my book he's a great dad.

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Both of my parents had fathers who abandoned their family. In the family-centric '50s, no less! Neither of my grandfathers apparently had any regrets about just dumping their wives and small children and moving on with their lives without ever looking back.

So the fact that Brad Pitt has worked so hard for so long and spent so much money to have more time with his kids speaks volumes to me. So whatever else he is, however flawed in other ways he may be, I don't think I'll ever believe that he doesn't want to be a father or that he doesn't care about his children. Because if that were the case, he could easily have just walked away.

Brad knows what he is doing. He has never attacked Angie publicly. Even in court or working with the child custody guardians appointed by the court he has been circumspect. I've read comments saying he doesn't want to go there. He is about being a peacemaker because it is best for the kids and because he cares about what happens to Angie. He knows how close she is to the kids, he wants to reach a place where they are amicable and work together for their kids. She doesn't care about that. She doesn't want those kids to get too close to him. She believes in her core that she alone knows what is good for those kids, and only she can protect them. FYI: Zahara and Shiloh are very close. I did read at one time that Brad and Angelina were in family counseling together. I wonder if all those official people those professionals realize how unstable she is. She preemptively attacked him, and maybe it was justifiable at the time, but she was definitely projecting a bit. Just a bit.

Angelina Jolie's your typical manipulative borderline bitch.

[quote] The next time we see Angelina, she'll likely be striding through some Palestinian refugee camp, looking sad & forlorn with one (or more) of the kids in tow, telling reporters that she's trying to teach her children about the pain of the world (or some such nonsense), unlike their father who just wants them to hang around the pool all summer or watch Netfix. Cue big tears running down her emaciated cheek.

I don’t think she “does” Palestine beyond anodyne “someone think of the children” schtick”.

She hasn’t made that money in Hollywood by passing off the wrong people.

They should never have married. Tney lived together for years and appeared happy. And a split would not have been as messy.

They made the mistake that some couples in a failing relationship do--that a wedding will fix things. All it's done was lead to a messy and expensive divorce.

If Angelina was anything approaching normal, she'd have worked out amicable custody years ago. All she's doing now is hurting her own reputation and spending large amounts of money on a case she can't win. But Angie isn't normal and will fight this thing until the kids are all adults.

"No matter what happens in their lives, these kids can look back & say my dad loved me. He didn't have to spend all that dosh to fight for me. Talk about an esteem builder! In my book he's a great dad."

Except there's always the nasty little possibility that Pitt is doing all that to save his image, because well, it actually is good for his image! That doesn't mean he doesn't love the kids as well as taking some thought for how the public will judge him for his actions during this trying time, because it's a fact that his strategy of fighting for custody and doing so by taking the high road has been great for his image in the long run.

I hope he loves the kids with all his heart and they're able to build a close relationship in spite of Ang's possessiveness, but the fact is not everyone loves their kids unconditionally the way people think parents should love their kids, and not everyone loves every single one of their kids with all their heart.

Quite true, R150.

^^^Tom Cruise doesn't give a shit about his kid and doesn't pretend to. At least he's honest.

I think Brad's parents are behind his determination to visit his kids. I bet his parents haven't seen them since the split.

R148 It isn't the divorce that is the issue here -it is child custody. Even if they had never married, Angie would have employed the same tactics in an attempt to get full custody.

She had been palling around London with Willie Hague and in her normal delusional and grandiose state, she fancied becoming a MP. Her plan was to move to London with the kids. She was prevented from doing this by the family court judge. This curtailment of her ability to travel and move around with the kids is probably one of the main reasons for her bitterness and vindictiveness.

Harry needs to read r61 because his time is coming with Smegs

Smegs?

Oh I see, it is one of the Markle loons trying to insert their crazy into a thread on Brad Pitt...

Well, of course Meg and Harry are going to have a nasty divorce and bitter custody battle in a few years, but Ang is a whole different kettle of fish from a garden-variety common bitch like Meg.

She doesn't seem to have any real long-term friends, just lovers and (at one time at least) drug buddies, and... her massive brood of children. Her possessiveness with them is extreme, I mean, lots of people want to keep the kids away from the ex-spouse, but she doesn't even want them to have any schoolmates or friends! She wants their only real attachment to be to her, which is just plain batshit crazy and a horrible way to raise children. It's the mentality of a sort of religious loon who home-schools their children and won't let them mingle with the local kids, because the local kids don't share the parents' beliefs and are a threat to the parents' complete control over the kids bodies and minds. Only instead of it happening in a shack with a bunker, it's taking place in mansions and five-star hotels.

Pretty much, R156. Seems very unhealthy for the children.

[quote]Except there's always the nasty little possibility that Pitt is doing all that to save his image, because well, it actually is good for his image! That doesn't mean he doesn't love the kids as well as taking some thought for how the public will judge him for his actions during this trying time, because it's a fact that his strategy of fighting for custody and doing so by taking the high road has been great for his image in the long run.

If Brad hadn't fought for custody, people would say he's an irresponsible father. If he fought for custody and took the low road, people would judge him for trashing the mother of his children and emotionally scarring the children as well. There was literally nothing he could do where people would not judge him.

I don't think Brad's reputation is his goal. Brad's goal is his relationship with his kids and their overall well-being. If it weren't, he could have given Angie everything she wanted and saved all this time, money, and effort. Ironically, she'd have liked him better as an absentee father who let her continue to drag those kids all over the world.

I'll kill them all before I'll let him at them!!

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Total powercunt move on Angie's part. Little did she know how much money that was going to cost her in legal proceedings. Should've just let the kids hang out with Grandma Pitt for a day or two.

Here is Brad’s nieces and mom dancing at Brad’s property.

[quote]No matter what happens in their lives, these kids can look back & say my dad loved me. He didn't have to spend all that dosh to fight for me. Talk about an esteem builder! In my book he's a great dad.

Agree totally. It would have been so much easier to simply give in to her crap, keep his visitation to the minimum and save all the enormous stress, time and money spent. Anyone who says he stuck through all this for five long years just for good pr is nuts. His image has taken a ton of hits over this process, all the public bickering and accusations being lobbed.

Angie's stans are irrational and would have you believe his entire custody fight is just a whip to beat poor Angie with, to "control" and "punish" her for leaving him. Like HER moves to keep them away from their father aren't possessively controlling and cruel. They always refer to her as doing what's best for HER kids, never referring to them as shared ("their kids").

and the tiktok at r162 sums up every basic reason why Angelina doesn't want her kids spending more time with Brad or, by extension, his family.

Check it out: smiling, happy, healthy young people, close to their grandparents and acting celebratory in a beautiful setting. Everything Angelina HATES and can't provide for them herself, and never also had herself growing up. She's moved heaven and earth to make sure they can never experience this, or end up in a video like this with BRAD's clan.

R150, I don’t think he did it for image sake. The guy has seemingly put his life on hold for years while in litigation. He’s Hollywood for sure, but also seems very down to earth at the same time. I know people who have met both and say he is very, very nice, I won’t comment on the impression of her. I do think it might be too late though. The kids are so indulged by her - are they ever papped without a shopping bag in hand- that Brad will look like the villain if he tries to add structure. He has grounded their travels so maybe there is some hope. It just seems like there is zero chance they will grow up well adjusted. The two oldest boys look so obnoxious, but I will say the older girls and the youngest boy always seem happy. The twin girl will have issues I think. Brad might have to pull a Michael Douglas and get it right the second time around.

agree r164

R164- Why do these people do this, do you think? I always have wanted my daughter to have the things that I did not. Most parents do. Markle and Harry are denying their child family as well. What mental/ behavioral issues are associated with this and why doesn't the courts treat this as the abuse it is?

The misogyny on this thread is unreal.

I’m sorry, nothing against Brad Pitt, seems like a pleasant guy, but I highly doubt he has the slightest clue how to impose “structure” on a bunch of celebrity teenagers, any better than she does. Who’s got the energy for that? Certainly not one of the biggest movie stars in the world. It’s hard enough for normal people. Best if those two knuckleheads had just worked out a functioning arrangement years ago, with plenty of helpers.

Get a grip r168. Angelina has exhibited selfish nutty behavior for years, even before she got with Pitt. She's worked overtime to keep their children from having anything to do with their father, I guarantee you that years from now when fuller details of this fight are put out there we'll be shocked at the lengths she went to to get her way. It isn't "Misogyny" to note it. What's the term for hating fatherhood?

R169, exactly LA teenagers with celebrity parents acts just like Alabama and London Barker.

R171- Their parents should be sentenced to a long jail term for that.

R167 Borderline personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder

R169, he’s tried. That’s why they have to stay in LA and she can’t drag them around the world. As they get older it will be harder. Though, he controls the purse strings.

Angelina views these kids as possessions/property. Even when she was with Brad you could see it. A genuine maternal woman would want the father involved. Look at the Tom Brady situation. That was messy as hell, Bridget Moynihan hated him so much she didn’t even give the kid his last name. However, over the years they have mended fences and seem to be great co-parents for the sake of their kid. That was the only thing I ever like about Gisele, she treated the kid like her own. My money is on Jolie collecting more kids in the years to come.

Travis named his daughter after Alabama Whitman from True Romance who was a call girl.

R174, I believe Ben Affleck and Jennifer have joint custody and Ben is much worse than Brad’s situation because he is a recovering alcoholic who relapsed several times and Jen was still generous with him spending time with the kids..if Brad messed up it’s over for him.

I agree r176 we laugh at Garner but she seems to be a good mother in that she keeps Ben involved with the kids even though it must be frustrating for her.

True, R174. I mean it’s what a normal, loving mother would want for their children. Pitt is 100% more together than Affleck too. Angelina is a narcissistic weirdo.

As for Travis Barker, his kids are beautiful, but OMG tragic train wrecks, especially the 15 yr old daughter. Shit parents, the both of them.

Yes, the Barker daughter has been sexualized by her parents since she was a tween, and now that seems to be all she knows.

[quote] Ben is much worse than Brad’s situation because he is a recovering alcoholic who relapsed several times

No. The difference is Ben's alcoholism vs Brad allegedly committing "domestic violence."

Ben also admitted his drinking wasn't their only problem but Jennifer has continued to speak highly of him.

Brad and Angelina argued on the plane Maddox defended his mom by getting on Brad’s face to verbally attacked him there was contact from Brad to Maddox’s face or shoulder area and that’s what we know so far since 2016.

R171, I think it depends on the celebrity parents. Those two kids didn’t stand a chance with the parents they have. They have sexualized that girl since she was 10 years old. Reese Witherspoon seems to have raised pretty good kids, Kelly Ripa, Eddie Murphy and Harrison Ford too. It’s the sketchy celebrities like Robert Downey Jr. the O’Neals, Michael Douglas, who said he neglected his first kid, etc.. that had kids who grew up to be problems. The only anomaly is Tom Hanks with Chet LOL

I thought Chet was the wild card youngest child but he isn't. He must embarrass them constantly, it's kind of funny.

Wringer, R127.

Yeah, if you want your kids to grow up well-adjusted don't raise them in the richest and more fame-obsessed areas of Los Angeles! I see why it happened, Pitt didn't dare allow Ang to travel with the kids because there's a good chance she'd never come back, and his work is in LA... but yeah. That leaves kids with battling parents and a crazy mother in Los Angeles, among rich kids.

Maybe the fact that she's batshit enough to keep them from having friends might protect them from the toxic rich-kid youth culture of LA, and neither parent has let them become social media "influencers" like most celebrity kiddies. But living an isolated existence with a crazy parent is never good for anyone, so between Ang keeping them locked up in home school and Brad keeping them in LA... they're getting the worst of several worlds.

July 7 will determine if her appeal is successful. Good luck,Brad!

Angelina is a nut case raised in the Hollywood bubble by nutcase parents. She's raised those kids in the same nutcase bubble, so Brad is the only vector to reality for the misguided kids. They'll never have to work a day in their lives, or contribute anything meaningful to society, but they'll be well cared for in whatever well-funded institution to which they are assigned. Brad, please do whatever you can to rescue Angelina's little props to set them free. Then fuck me hard, Thank you.

Maddox seems to be a strange one, like he wanted to be the husband.

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I don't think Brad being an alcoholic or supposedly menacing made her want to deny him any custody. It's because she's so pissed he won't let her travel around the world with her kids shoved in tote bags going from refugee camp to refugee camp. She wants to live out of a jet and a hotel visiting exotic places.

You know r190 she can still do that - live out of jets and hotels visiting all her political hotspots. But why the hell does she need to drag her poor kids with her though? Why not leave them behind at home, safe and secure with their Dad (or nannies), so she can globally galivant around, cameras in tow, without distraction?

She's such a weirdo, she can't do ANYTHING by herself anymore. She has to have her little pals, her kids, with her all the time and everyplace. So very strange. They've become emotional support props to her nowadays. Whatever happened to risk-taking, independent gutsy Angelina of her twenties and early 30s?

TMZ reported on her plan from the get go back in 2016 and why she is obsessed with sole custody.

[quote] Why did Pitt recently hired a litigator that specialize on free speech than family court for the next phase and why is he so chatty? Is this Brad ‘s first mistake?

Brad hired one of the finest appellate attorneys in the country. He already has great family lawyers and family litigators. Appellate advocacy is what is needed now.

Angelina has a second/third rate lawyer from out of town who has made one bone headed mistake after another ever since she took over from Laura Wasser. I think her biggest selling point is her willingness to do whatever Angelina wants her to do. Wasser wasn't willing to and bowed out.

I don’t think the African orphan/refugees shtick will work anymore. Her star power and career have dimmed in the last few years. She did one of those refugee photo ops somewhere a few years ago and I was shocked that it didn’t really get that much publicity. Before that anywhere she went got major press. Even when she was with Brad the last few years, they somewhat faded after they stopped doing the daily pap strolls. Before that they were the untouchable King and Queen of Hollywood who wouldn’t even be interviewed on the red carpet. This is the moment you knew the tide turned. She was ridiculed and that never happened before.

Angelina must be desperate to move to Uk now that her good friend Sophie, Countess of Wessex has been promoted and plays more of an active role in the Firm.

I agree with the narrative that Angelina wants sole custody out of spite/control-freakery, but in her defense, rather than becoming an influencer or a joke like Cindy's Crawford's son, her eldest adoptee was going to college in Korea, at least pre-Covid.

She did not want her 2 biological blonde daughters to overshadow her so she dressed them up as boys.

"This is the moment you knew the tide turned. She was ridiculed and that never happened before."

Yeah, I remember thinking that the leg memes were the beginning of the end of Angie's reign as queen of Hollywood, or at least, as queen of the gutter press. Some people lose all their power when they're laughed at, and had that impression.

It was just one of those moments, like the official end of Paris Hilton's reign as queen bee. When she was photographed crying and humiliated, on her way to prison, all the bitches who worshipped her as their alpha bitch lost respect for her.

That Sun article interesting. It's main source is a Brad supporter, but buried in there it mentions that he was always closest to Shiloh and the twins ie his biological kids. Which confirms what I always suspected. Like many men (and women), Brad sees his children as extensions of his egos therefore he isn't as interested in his adopted kids. In any case, I'm surprised posters are acting like Brad's family is something Angie should be jealous of -they are OPENLY homophobic. I don't care how many matching t shirts they wear.

R178, it looks like Alabama is calling out shanna for being such a shitty mother.

Quote:. " I read from paralegals that her appeal might come through and the judge should recuse because of him stating “she lacked credibility” its a big nono for some reason?"

I realize we are living in a new upside-down, black is white world where a child rapist and New York mafia don/Russian tool/psychopathic criminal, who committed murderous treason and genocide, isn't held accountable, AND is allowed to run for president/criminally insane dictator AGAIN-as if that is FUCKING NORMAL-but a "big nono?" It is very possible that I have misinterpreted this, but is it now really " A big nono" for a sitting judge in a five year old child custody case to find a bunny boiling vengeful psycho's testimony not credible? Isn't judging the credibility, motive, and stability of the parents to determine what is in the best interest of the children the entire fucking reason custody cases are deemed necessary ? Isn't that kinda his only job? Please make it make sense.

Jolie find’s it sad that everybody is celebrating Brad’s joint custody win.

This has got to be the most delusional fan-fic crap I’ve ever read regarding these two, on this website or anywhere else, for that matter, except for that one website ran from the UK.

GMAFB.

From the above article:

"“The heart of this dispute has not been about keeping the children apart from their father, it’s been Angelina asking for care for her family,” they went on to say.

“Her motivations have never been to deny the children a relationship with their father,” added the source."

WTF could she possibly mean by that other than ruining his reputation? What game is she playing? This is insane. She has so much power- more than possibly any woman to deal with the family court system: money, fame, looks. These inept tactics fuel MRAs.

Oh, lawyer partner says "care" is code for money. Ha, carry on.

Well yes, as noted before, Angie is living high with her army of nannies and a mansion big enough for her massive family and all their retainers, and she's made few films since the breakup and never earned as much as Brad before that. As an actor, she's never been huge box-office, and never had the kind of financial deals that would make her more money than she could possibly spend, and she's spending big!

So as long as she had sole custody or primary custody, rich old Brad would have to pay her child support, and I presume that would include child-related expenses like the army of nannies. But if there's joint custody, isn't Brad off the hook, or largely off the hook?

Yes, he would pay much more if she had sole custody.

I would bet my left kidney that this whole thing started because Brad was trying to ease Jolie into a separation and she went off the rails. Her personality-disordered ego could not handle being left. Thus the accusations of abuse, the already rented house, etc. Add to that, I bet Brad had for years been been attempting to get them to settle in one place, a home base, where the kids could have some semblance of normal life. She wants to drag those props, er... kids, here and there and she wants to do so at the same level of financial comfort she had with Brad. If those kids had any extended amount of time in the real world socializing with normal people, they'd figure her out in good time. As it stands, they're all going to turn out to be a bunch of Grey Gardens weirdos who have no hope for a normal life.

To the poster above who mentioned that Maddox goes to university - he goes to the American wing of a prestigious university where acceptance is based solely on having $$$$ and a pulse. So, no great shakes.

The public finally caught a glimpse of Angelina’s true self as being a liar and manipulative towards kids in the vanity fair interview. I’m glad the magazine stood their ground and didn't back off when Angelina’s people threatened them.

Does Angelina favor the adopted kids over the bio ones, the same way Madonna does??

R209, yes she infamously called Shiloh a blob who was privilege the moment she was born and felt more towards the adopted children. She also dressed her 2 youngest bio daughters in male clothes on the red carpet events while the adopted one got to dressed all fancy and Pax has been pap several times buying expensive designer brands.

Remember when Angelina and her brother actually did a photoshoot of them kissing? This is the not the Oscar kiss btw

R207- I so agree with this. I would not be surprised if this is the first time in her life that she was dumped, much less publicly. Narcs always seem to be aware of when someone is about to leave them do they leave them first. This time she couldn't do that bc she was going to maintain her lifestyle. Her never ending, so called "health problems" were mostly plastic surgery procedures, imo.

R212, I wonder if she has munchausen syndrome?

[quote]"The heart of this dispute has not been about keeping the children apart from their father, it’s been Angelina asking for care for her family,” they went on to say.

This Bitch. Wtf business does a wealthy and famous middle aged woman have asking anyone, never mind a hired judge, to "care" for her family? Care for your own family like the rest of us, get off the crazy high horse you've been on for years, start talking to your ex and sit down and figure out a fucking way to finish raising your kids together. It's called a "parenting plan" for divorced parents, look it up.

She is so false and transparent. She has NO intention of co-parenting with Pitt in any way, shape or form. She'd rather her children be hurt and pulled apart than even try for 5 minutes to do so, and she's going to spend another couple of million dollars in legal fees trying vainly to overturn what is a near-rock solid joint custody ruling.

I hope she goes bankrupt and the kids take off for Brad's.

R212- I have always thought it was a cover for plastic surgery, attention and martyr seeking , an excuse for even more pain medication.

Seal tried to prevent Heidi from traveling to Germany with the kids for work but got the go ahead because Heidi’s oldest daughter from her previous relationship and whom Seal adopted submitted a declaration to the court to represent the younger kids now he hasn’t seen his kids for 7 months and it turns out the daughter had an agenda to start her modeling career there.

Totally different scenario, R216. Heidi and Seal had a prior agreement and they immediately settled this dispute ensuring the move would only be temporary. Plus they had a history of her being able to travel with the kids without incident, he tried to stop her this time because of concerns that due to Covid she'd try to made the move permanent.

[quote]I agree [R176] we laugh at Garner but she seems to be a good mother in that she keeps Ben involved with the kids even though it must be frustrating for her.

If Ang were shrewd like Jen, she'd drag all the kids to church, with Brad trudging along behind like a beat dog, just like Ben

I think Brad tired her pretty quickly, but was trapped. That may have another reason for her suddenly endless medical issues and surgeries, to keep Brad around longer. How could he leave the mother of his children who was suffering serious heath problems- one after the other after the other- all while she looked at deaths door. Junkie thin , pale, so fragile looking. ( Anorexic junkie)

This article makes Angelina seem like a very kind and loving mother. Time will tell, but some of you kweens make a lot of assumptions based on little information.

It's not assumptions, it's prejudice. Brad Pitt is a hot rich movie star, the qweens want him for themselves. Thus the long standing memes about Jen and Angie. No woman will ever love him like they can!

It’ll be interesting to see what these kids will look like as they get older. I have to say they haven’t met public expectations thus far.

I hate it when straight women show up here and call us call "qweens."

I am very curious about Shiloh's sudden decision to dress as a female. Did she have to battle her mother? Did AJ suddenly give up/in? Would love to know the story behind this one.

R223- Well I will always call you by the beloved DL term of endearment, you lovely bitch! 😘

R224, probably puberty and she finally started to feel more like a girl. I guess she was just a tomboy before. I can’t believe she is 15, here I thought she was like 11.

Shiloh at 15 is no longer the controlled child, told by her mother what to wear. Now she can get some money from Dad, go to stores and buy whatever she wants - which is quite different than what her mother previously dressed her in.

[quote] -which is quite different than what her mother previously dressed her in.

Montenegro style.

Angelina is such a pretentious idiot.

Ah yes R220, better to make assumptions from puff pieces in celebrity ass-kissing magazines.

I missed Shiloh dressing as a girl, where is that coming from? I thought they had gotten her puberty blockers? Those things are no joke, they lower IQ and can cause bones to dissolve. Glad she is making choices independendent of AJ dressing her as a boy since babyhood.

Shiloh was never put on puberty blockers and she was never trans. Neither of her parents ever referred to her as a boy. She was just a tomboy. Now she's growing up and her body is becoming that of a woman's, she's starting to look like a woman. She's also abandoned the boy's clothing, has grown her hair and now just looks like a typical young teen. Shiloh is a great example of why kids should not be transed.

Shiloh also wears earrings, which to me suggests a deliberate attempt to look like a girl/woman even though she's still quite tomboyish. But, she's definitely signalling that she's a woman. She looks very pretty, albeit with a mask. Thankfully Angelina did not try to trans her, which too many other parents would these days, and just let her express herself.

R520: Quote: "This article makes Angelina seem like a very kind and loving mother. Time will tell, but some of you kweens make a lot of assumptions based on little information"

Um, no, not on a little information, on over five years of watching her fight to deny BP his rightful access to his children. We have watched her try to ruin his reputation, commit parental alienation, drag her children all over the globe, prevent the children from forming attachments to other children their age and to family by isolating them from everyone, treat her son as a friend or spouse, turn the sons against their father by telling one of them BP never wanted him. I know there is more, but I am getting carpal tunnel bc the list is so long.

R233- Do you think AJ was trying to but became aware of the negative backlash?

That "surrogate spouse" role is so destructive to the kid and to sibling dynamics too. She really should not be the only influence on those kids.

No, I don't think Angelina was trying to trans her and there was never any backlash because most people realise that Shiloh was just a kid. Even when Angelina and Brad were still together Shiloh dressed like that and Brad had no problem with it. In fact, he even triggered some of the trans nonsense by saying she likes to be called John or Peter. This was when she was about 2, when she had no dress style whatsoever.

Yeah gotta give Jolie and Pitt the smallest slice of credit— they never pushed Shiloh to be trans. That was just projection by a bunch of social media obsessed “genderqueers”.

Shiloh will be a stunner when she grows out of the awkward early teenage years. She got the best of Brad and Angie. By contrast, the twins look odd.

She truly will be stunning. I haven't seen very many up close photos of the others, but I loathe AJ so I do not click on any stories about her unless it has to do with the divorce. I do remember that there were almost weekly articles of her merching, and she always had the children with her. I assumed she was having financial difficulty to be doing that. It was a huge stepdown, imo.

Shiloh began wearing boys clothing as a 2 year old. Long before her tomboy phase beginning around age 5-6, she was always dressed in boys clothing. It is clear what Angie was up to. She must be so disappointed that she won't have her trans child as a woke prop.

The boy Knox looks exactly like her brother.

R242- The one she passionately tongue kissed in public? She always was really trashy.

R194-Would someone please explain the leg meme? Did AJ jokingly pose for that photo or was it just photo shopped and what was the significance of it? I guess I do not understand why that was so detrimental to her career or whatever it was suppose to be. Tia!

Don't forget the sony email leaks..

Women are truly the worst.

R242, he really does look like the Voight side of the family and he looks way more feminine than his sisters.

She’s like some horror movie version of a mother. Angry, vengeful, inexhaustible.

People talk about “toxic masculinity”, but here’s a prime example of “toxic femininity”. It’s fascinating. She was a beautiful woman who turned motherhood into a weapon as her looks faded.

There are quite a few of them in Hollywood. I won’t name names because we all know who they are.

I'm not so sure r241. Shiloh still had girly hair when she was two. Also, she was two in 2008, way before all this trans shit had been heard of.

Shiloh looks exactly like Brad, except for her mouth/,lips. Idk the name of the other son, bit he does look very feminine. Idk who he favors, he doesn't really look like his siblings, imo. If/when they feel she has lied to them about their father, she may lose them forever. Children rarely forgive their parent for such a betrayal from what I have learned/seen of parental alienation.

Brad must be sweating bullets since he is aware Angelina is going to drop a huge bombshell on his ass that can further damage his reputation . Halle accused his ex of incest and racism towards their daughter when they were fighting over custody.

Angelina’s camp says her oldest kids chose not to associate with Brad but I think that’s just Maddox. Pax hangs with his Pitt cousins and goes to a regular school in the Valley, and there’s no sign Zahara has turned on him.

R251- I bet if he hears a car backfire he ducks. She has never not gotten her way and you just know she is in a narc rage. Aging, no longer welcomed in Hollywood, ect. If her bio children chose BP over her she will really do something, imo.

Neither Brad nor Angelina are perfect people and none of us know how much of the p.r behind this seemingly never ending divorce and custody battle is for show. But, I'm on Team Brad with all of this. He could have just paid things off and had perhaps Holiday Season visitation rights or something but he's instead fought the good fight this whole long ass time.

Angelina does pap walks with those children all the time. That's obviously a secondary source of employment for her. I know both Brad and Angelina at one point were getting a bit overboard with pap strolls with those children but now whenever it is that Brad Pitt has his visitation time it's never made public pap stroll style.

In the interim those children have finally lived in the one house in the one city for a rather long while now and that's good. That's what's best for them in the long run because Angelina isn't exactly like Audrey Hepburn with her international charity work to begin with and what Brad Pitt does, for better or worse, s basically L.A. based. Why can't Angelina do something L.A. based past her pap strolls? She's from there and she could, for example, be trying to lend her support towards causes pertaining to the homeless.

R254- There were rumors, and this was about 2 years before the divorce, that AJ's humanitarian work was a cover for her involvement with heroin trafficking. Idk if there is any truth to this, but there has been talk of this for years.

Well exactly r254. Why doesn't she do more philanthropic work locally, in LA, the city she was born and mostly raised in? At least until the kids are majority age and she can go back to her international galivanting. There's plenty of local work to do.

When all the talk was going on a few years ago about her moving to the UK and getting a seat in the House of Lords. Why does she need to move all the way over there to be politically active? It would be such an extreme move as to be a joke. Why doesn't she try running for LA City Council, from her area (Los Feliz)? I bet if she mounted a serious campaign she'd win.

She should also engage in more local charity work. Put your time and money locally where your heart is, as they say.

[quote]Brad must be sweating bullets since he is aware Angelina is going to drop a huge bombshell on his ass that can further damage his reputation.

Brad isn't sweating anything re his ex anymore, he's got what he wanted and is living his life. The only bullets he's "sweating" these days are those he gets as he tries to land hotties like Andra Day and other gorge starlets.

What bombshell is Angelina going to drop? She's already dropped everything she has, and it's barely stuck. No one would believe anything like that from her now, after what's transpired. She'd only damage her own reputation. Everything that she's hurled at Brad, re his parenting, has already been laid out and microexamined in family court. It's over.

All the private planes, always worth a side eye. And then there were the rumors about arms trafficking on a Pitt film. Don't believe the hype about any of these people and what they may be used as fronts for. Private planes that can evade normal checks - who knows what is in the hold?

Is she really that much in need of money that she had to lower herself and involve her children with merching and paid pap walks?

Being photographed on trips to Target with the kids is about PR, not money.

Jenn Garner does it and they are not poor, R259, think it feeds the narcissism and keeps up the brand.

R244, that meme is altered. She went to an awards show wearing a dress with a long slit and kept posing with her leg awkwardly sticking out. The next day she was ridiculed for it. Before that she was sort of untouchable, everybody was in awe of her and kissed her ass. So that was a turning point. Between that and Sony email leaks, she lost a lot of allure. The pap strolls is what really kept them front and center for years. She really knew how to run her pr.

The son really does favor her brother and he does look more feminine than the girls. I always thought it was odd that Angelina gave birth out of the US twice. I once read speculation that it was because of drug issues. I don’t know how true that is, I always just chalked it up to her being pretentious.

"Angelina does pap walks with those children all the time. That's obviously a secondary source of employment for her."

Are the makers of baggy black clothing really paying her big bucks to be photographed in their stuff?

If Angie outed Brad's drinking, why can't he out her heroin use?

Has Angie been involved with anyone seriously since the break-up with Brad? No new husbands, obviously, but has she even had any relationships?

Or is she making the kids her WHOLE life? I mean, she hasn't even been working much.

[quote] Brad must be sweating bullets since he is aware Angelina is going to drop a huge bombshell on his ass that can further damage his reputation .

You haven't been paying attention. Brad's rep hasn't been damaged at all. It's better than it ever was. No one believes a word out of her mouth anymore.

I don't even buy that he was some out of control alcoholic. Someone like Brad Pitt constantly under the microscope would never have been able to hide that.

I think he was like many men who drink regularly and can handle it fine until they reach a certain age usually in their 40s-early 50s when their bodies don't metabolize alcohol the same anymore. They get drunk quicker and it takes a while before they realize they need to cut back or just stop. Brad apparently was able to just stop overnight and a true alcoholic couldn't do that.

This is all about proving she is right to have filed for divorce so she had to turn him into something that was harmful to the children. Probably more about convincing herself she was right. Remember she was a cutter with suicidal ideation (though the suicide stories may have been trying to sound edgy). Cutters pose a real psychological challenge - that is incredibly hard to "cure" and it can manifest itself in other blindly self-destructive behaviors. Especially when someone doesn't believe in therapy as she often said before this divorce battle began.

R264, there were rumors of her plans to date Prince Andrew before his scandal was revealed, rumors of her in a secret relationship with a uk businessman and most recently Diplo who Pax help set up from his dj connections.

[quote]If Angie outed Brad's drinking, why can't he out her heroin use?

He could, but he didn't and won't. He knows how low that is, and how it would absolutely destroy his children to have that publicly divulged about their mother by their father and/or his representatives. And he does obviously love his kids.

It may very well be made public, but it won't be from Brad, ever.

[quote]I don't even buy that he was some out of control alcoholic. Someone like Brad Pitt constantly under the microscope would never have been able to hide that.

It would have been super difficult to hide, considering not only his A-list lifestyle in LA with all the attendant scrutiny, but the face he runs a major independent production house (Plan B) with dozens of employees and highly ambitious and professional colleagues. These people would have no time for a serious drunk ruining things for them and their careers.

I mean, how many nominated and awarded projects did he produce just in the last several years? Some of the best films made in the past decade.

I'd be surprised if high-profile men would want Angie at this point. She's over 40 and has 6 children. She can't give the man any more children of his own, and it's clear she's vengeful and unstable. She might catch some generic businessman who's willing to take all that on, but the A-listers will stay away.

R255, the rumors is that she is a CIA asset.

She is also CFR, as is Clooney

"...rumors of her in a secret relationship with a uk businessman"

So she hasn't given up on the married men?

R272- She loves breaking up marriages. It makes her feel superior to other women if she can take their husband from them. The worse kind of cunt out there. A narc broke up my Aunt's marriage. Of course my uncle was the one I blamed more than her, but she seemed to take pleasure in humiliating my aunt by making sure my Aunt's friends saw them together, behavior like that. She did receive her karma. Bitch was diagnosed with end stage liver disease and turned orange. She refused to stop drinking. My uncle, who was married to her by then died a few months later of alcoholism as well. My aunt died from a heart blockage resulting from Juvenile Diabetes and they married months after her death. Karma. These women are almost always narcissists. Look at how she took pleasure in humiliating Anniston. Julia Roberts was another. Cunts. .

R264, I recall a rumor about her being involved with some woman at the UN or somesuch. But that was a while ago.

I think the “speculation” that she’s a CIA asset are put out by her. She’d love to be one, but she’s too psychologically fragile to be seriously considered.

R274, It’s probably one of her coven of witches aka uk advisors

AJ looks really bad lately. Too pale, paper thin skin, dead looking eyes, and she appears to look much older than her age . Is it just me or does she seem to have noticably aged badly in the past year or so? I rarely ever click on photos of her so have seen any of her in a long time, so maybe that is why she looks so bad and unhealthy to me.

Plastic surgery and good genes can only carry you for so long. Angelina has been starving herself for years, in addition to rumored drug abuse. Don't discount the physical effects of surgically induced menopause, as well. All thhat's going to age you no matter how many doctors and spas you can afford. Her bones must be a mess.

Damn, look at those veiny arms - no wonder she wears long sleeves all the time. And she's still got those bolt on tits - that can't be comfortable with her small frame

Is she blacklisted in Hollywood?

Not yet r279. She still is an international audience draw and will keep getting marquee roles such as The Eternals. But if she keeps down the current negative path, that and mother nature taking its course (on her looks) will do the job.

R256. Yes, but that would take work, and Angie doesn't want to work. Her refugee stuff involves swooping into a refugee camp for a day or two, heading to the capitol city for a few nights at the poshest hotel and then back home.

I wish Ronan Farrow mind his own business but i bet Angie and him will work together so her side will be heard in the public.

Let her r282. Pitt isn't Woody Allen or Harvey. They'll have a hard time making any further inroads in her obsessive holy war against him. He's still Hollywood's Golden Boy, successful in everything he touches and still wildly personally popular with his peers. Further mud-slinging against him will spectacularly backfire from here on.

“The custody schedule was always determined by the court,” a source familiar with the situation told us. “It’s sad that Brad’s people are gloating about a potential win when beating a system that exists to protect families and children from issues that harm their well-being is not something to brag about.“

Re above - Angie's PR is going to backfire on her. Most people don't want to see a father stripped of his ability to see his children. Joint custody is the default pathway in CA and most states.

Ha! Brad didn't "beat the system" r284. He waged a thorough, focused, and expensive fight to gain HALF (not full, just his fair 50%) custody of his children. The children he'd co-raised and supported since their birth or adoption (Maddox being the small exception in his pre-dating Brad's arrival).

You'd think he cheated at cards or something. It was a lengthy and exhaustive legal battle, with plenty of mud thrown from both sides. Jolie's side isn't clean there - was she 'beating the system' as well?

She's such a bitch and a sore loser. Her statement totally implies that Brad's gaining his fair half time and influence on his own children after several years causes "harm to their well-being". Pfft. No one else is calling it a "win" and playing it like a game but Jolie and her team.

“Peter Harvey, a former attorney general of New Jersey, says that Jolie is now campaigning over how custody issues are assessed 'to ensure that other families do not experience what hers has endured'”

I wish Pitt would gang up with the AG of California to mount a challenge to how fathers are treated in custody fights there. Five years is way too long to be treated like a 2nd class citizen in your children's lives, for little reason other than their mother is rich, famous and psychotically crazy.

The only thing that family has endured is her ongoing futile anger and resentment toward Brad and his fatherhood.

R288 You do understand these type of custody battles are only fought by the wealthy who can afford paying lawyers for years. It reminds me of Ronald Perelman's custody fights with his ex wife Patricia Duffy. Again, only wealthy people can afford prolonged years-long legal battles.

Ten years from now (and maybe even sooner than that), Angelina won't be a force in films. Meryl Streep she isn't: Her appeal was always her looks, and those have been on the wane for a while now.

She probably knows this, and that's why she wants to up her profile as a humanitarian--the UN gig would have been incredibly prestigious. She likely blames Brad for denying her the opportunity to have that role in the UK, hence all the drama over the last few years. Never cut off a narcissist's supply of attention and praise: They always freak out.

Well, now that the kids are going to be spending half their time with Brad, she's perfectly free to devote more time to her "humanitarian" act!

Which would really make the shared custody a win-win, to a sane person.

Why don't these crazy kids get back together again? Cut the stupid feuding; you belong together

He'd be more likely to get back with Jennifer, and that's VERY unlikely.

Brad probably won't marry again until his kids are older--he might even wait until the youngest are 18. That way, his crazy ex can fuck up the custody arrangements.

*Can't fuck up custody arrangements

Why can't they give me the respect that I'm entitled to? Why can't they treat me like I would be treated by any stranger on the street?

I wonder of her appeal will be successful?

This isn't a clear cut win/lose situation. Lots of grey areas. I'm sure the kids were exposed to lots of harm esp when Brad Pitt was a drunk ass and acting like an asshole...he probably doesn't even remember because he was fucked up. Clearly the airport incident wasn't the first time but it was the last time for her.

It isn't healthy for kids to grow up having that as an example for a man. they will have lots of daddy issues. I'm glad he's sober now and can have a meaningful role in the children's lives. But who knows how long he will stay sober? For the kids' sake, I hope forever.

It's not healthy for kids to grow up with a borderline mother either, yet here we are.

Brad can stay sober, but can Angie stay stable? If she could, it would be a first for her.

Brad drank to escape Jolie's cruelty and craziness. He is doing well now that he has lifted anchor completely.

Who says Jolie is sober? She has a long history of abusing opiates. One of the main reasons she avoided birthing in the US, where drug testing of mothers is the norm.

Jolie is a far, far more fucked up human being than Brad. He had a normal childhood. Jolie was raised by a personality disordered mother who made a life out of hating her ex.

I thought someone upthread said she DID birth her kids in the US?

She gave birth to Shiloh in Namibia, and to the twins in France.

Jon Voight and Brad actors with blond hair, blue eyes and born in December hmmm..

I just hope he’s petty enough to marry a 30-something brainiac who uses him for sex. Bonus points if she’s biracial, has curves, and wants kids.

[quote]That's what's best for them in the long run because Angelina isn't exactly like Audrey Hepburn with her international charity work to begin with and what Brad Pitt does, for better or worse, s basically L.A. based. Why can't Angelina do something L.A. based past her pap strolls? She's from there and she could, for example, be trying to lend her support towards causes pertaining to the homeless.

This x 100. Homelessness, environmental disaster, mental illness and medical iniquity about in California but Dame Angelina wants to join the House Of Lords. Her hypocrisy is astounding.

Yes, and Angelina sometimes dresses in baggy black dresses but she always is carrying a $5000 - $20,000 purse, $1000 sunglasses and shoes that cost $500 - 1000. She enjoys luxury and has not eschewed the finer things in life, despite spending time with those living amongst refuse.

If Angie was truly dedicated to humanitarianism, she could get herself photographed handing out food and sleeping bags to the homeless encampments in Venice, and bring along a few kids for added press value.

And maybe score some heroin while she's there.

[quote] she could get herself photographed handing out food and sleeping bags to the homeless encampments in Venice

Because of the acqua alta?

Why would a hot biracial woman use Brad Pitt for sex? Let's get real, he's 60 and well past his peak of hotness. The only young woman who'd be interested in him is a woman who wants his money and fame

He's nearly sixty, he's got 4-6 kids depending on how many will speak to him, and he's got a psycho ex who's determined to spend the children's minority and/or the rest of her life dragging him into court and slagging him to the press.

He's not going to get another A-lister to pair up with him.

Brad is rich, famous, and still handsome. He's got his drinking under control and seems like a responsible, stable guy with varied interests. A lot of women would go for that.

If he can stabilize his relationship with his existing kids, he'd be better off marrying an attractive woman over 40 who doesn't want kids or has already had her kids (who are grown or close to it). Someone who isn't interested in being a star but is willing to be his arm candy on the red carpet and lead a private life otherwise. Basically, a Jennifer Anniston but not Jennifer Anniston, as it's unlikely they'll ever reunite.

No R307, this is Venice, LA, the Empire of drug addicts and morally ambiguous peoples.

They both need permission from each other to travel with the kids and Brad allows her every time while she doesn’t he can’t even bring the kids to visit his parents in Missouri.

Jolie's dress sense is ridiculous. She looks like an utter fool every time she steps out of the house.

I'm sure she could manage to get herself appointed UN special ambassador for the homeless or something. She certainly would be kept pretty busy in LA. But again I think she'd prefer her charity work to consist of flying a private jet into some African country surrounded by officials and photographers, where her work would consist of wearing a scarf over her head and patting some emaciated kid on the back of the head in a refugee camp. Then she would fly back out to London later that night. In LA, she'd actually have to do stuff.

Jolie was dressing Shiloh in skull t-shirts and lots of black when she was still a tiny infant. She wasn't going to tolerate any competition.

Vivienne was always very girly, then suddenly she was wearing boy clothes and looking miserable, even tearful.

Zahara has always dressed very femininely.

[quote]I'm sure she could manage to get herself appointed UN special ambassador for the homeless or something. She certainly would be kept pretty busy in LA.

Even if you ignore all the other behavior, this point is what convinces me what a fraud she is; parts of LA look like a 3rd world country, but it's not the glam international/reporters trailing you walking through a refuge camp looking sad & lamenting the plight of XX. It's smelly, grinding poverty combined with overmatched social services, mental illness, addiction and all sorts of social ills for which there are no easy answers. But it's still suffering, only right on your doorstep. Lots of celebs (including Brad) make appearances at food banks, but having someone like her continually bring attention to the situation might at the very least force politicians to address the problems in a meaningful way. But she's too busy going on pap walks through Target.

[quote]He's nearly sixty, he's got 4-6 kids depending on how many will speak to him, and he's got a psycho ex who's determined to spend the children's minority and/or the rest of her life dragging him into court and slagging him to the press.

[quote]He's not going to get another A-lister to pair up with him.

Huh. Of course he will continue to land A-list partners. He's still Brad Pitt, with all that implies. The A-listers he will go out with won't be in their 20s or early 30s, making a major change from before. He will still get chances with women like Regina King, Andra Day or that MIT professor he was enamored with a few years ago. Plus all the attractive below-the-liners we don't know by name, the producers, MUAs, writers, etc. Successful women in Hollywood aren't just actresses anymore.

He's also an A++ producer, backing all the award-winning films everyone wants to be associated with. That's a huge draw for him out in LA. He will do just fine, trust.

[quote]They both need permission from each other to travel with the kids and Brad allows her every time while she doesn’t he can’t even bring the kids to visit his parents in Missouri.

Previously, Brad could only stop her from taking the kids out of the country without his permission, before the joint custody decision. He had little to no ability to take them anyplace outside of LA.

Things have changed; he will certainly be allowed to take the kids to his parents in MO, for example, on his own time. He'll need to tell her where he's taking them, but as long as he has them back at her place for when her time custodial time starts, he can nationally travel with them as he pleases. That's one reason why this court decision was so huge and far-reaching for him.

Brad’s dating life is a messed and he didn’t seem to learn his lesson from his relationship with Angelina . A year ago he was dating a model who was still married to his 68 yr old husband. She was a famewhore who was giving hints on her Instagram and was checking out tributes about her and Brad...

Brad didn't really "date" that model - they spent a few weeks hanging out and then she was sent packing.

The MIT professor married a tech billionaire.

[quote]If he can stabilize his relationship with his existing kids, he'd be better off marrying an attractive woman over 40 who doesn't want kids or has already had her kids (who are grown or close to it). Someone who isn't interested in being a star but is willing to be his arm candy on the red carpet and lead a private life otherwise. Basically, a Jennifer Anniston but not Jennifer Anniston, as it's unlikely they'll ever reunite.

Brad should get together with DL-fave Kristin Davis.

Didn’t Kristen Davis pretend to be dating Damien Lewis, and he denied it?

Strange woman

Does he now have a say on the kids appearance on the red carpet ? I find it weird that Angie and the kids are always laughing and smiling manically while posing for the cameras.

I mean wtf?

Brad has always had point legal custody. No one ever took that away. That is the fall back position of all parents unless they sign it away or a court takes it away. That never happened here.

Angelina pretty much usurped his joint physical custody and Brad only took her to court over that after 18 months of her alienating the kids and denying him meaningful custody time.

Brad had been convinced that going to court just made things worse for the children but unfortunately Angelina took advantage of that very reasonable position and used it as a weapon against him. He talked about this in an interview in Spring 2017 when he had been convinced by Angelina that he just needed to be patient and he would have what he wanted - which has always just been joint and equal parenting time. Looks like she lied big time to him and this is when she was getting him to fork over $8 million so she could buy that overpriced mansion in Los Feliz.

Destroying your children's relationships with the other parent is unforgivable. He may never have these relationships healed or restored no matter what he does. These children will pay for this throughout their lives.

These custody rulings are very detailed, especially with one or both of the parents refusing to cooperate. They spell out details like how birthdays will be celebrated, how decisions about education or even hair cutting are made, and anything and everything you can think of. I hope Brad has learned she cannot be trusted.

Joint not point. LOL. ^^^

Agreed that it was dumb to ever trust her. Brad should have taken her to court as soon as she started violating the custody hearing and before she could poison the children's minds.

Pax is 18 in 5 months and Sahara is 18 in 18 months, so they're really not at the heart of this. At this point, it's really about the bio kids and whether Brad can restore his relationship with them through more face-to-face time. The oldest kids will be making their own decisions about time with Brad and how they want their hair cut and birthday celebrated.

R325, so basically he fell for her manipulation again and again..I don’t understand why he keeps falling for her trap? He seems very naive and a midwestern at heart even though he’s been in Hollywood for over 30 years.

I agree R329. Either he just wanted to think the best of the woman he loved and the mother of his children and thus naive or she is really good at deceit. In the beginning he may have still held out hope he could salvage his marriage and thought he'd placate her.

Luckily he has as fine a legal team as you can get and she has this third rate attorney from out of town. Though she does have an LA firm handling the financial aspect of her divorce. It is very telling that the LA firm who handles the financials for her would not take her custody case - that is what they do. Just reinforces why Laura Wasser bailed out on her back in 2018. Jolie wants to play dirty and these more reputable lawyers aren't putting their reps on the line for her.

I'm guessing the judge was female.

This looks very Joan Crawford dictating them where to go and instructing them to smile wide. Shiloh seems to not be into it even when she pretends to be happy in front of the cameras -her smiles fades when it stops.

[quote] Why would a hot biracial woman use Brad Pitt for sex?

Isn’t he part Native American?

R303 - biracial, has curves, and wants kids, you say??

part Native American?

No just yellow skin.

[quote]Destroying your children's relationships with the other parent is unforgivable. He may never have these relationships healed or restored no matter what he does. These children will pay for this throughout their lives.

It's what Goldie Hawn did to her kids, alienating them from their bio father.

[quote] I mean wtf?

You will laugh and look happy, or else you won’t get the clothes you really not the crap we pretend to buy at Target!

[quote] Jolie's dress sense is ridiculous. She looks like an utter fool every time she steps out of the house.

[quote] where her work would consist of wearing a scarf over her head and patting some emaciated kid on the back of the head in a refugee camp.

Now THIS is how a celebrity UNICEF ambassador should dress amount emaciated kids with distended bellies.

[quote] No just yellow skin.

Huh? From where?

The "model" Brad was "dating" was an escort.

After what Angelina put him through, it wouldn't be shocking if he never married again.

R337, yea while the younger bio kids shops at Target and wear hand-me-downs the older adopted kids like Pax gets to buy a $900 sweater...

Once they get more time with dad, the bio kids might pull a Rocco Ritchie sooner rather than later.

Isn’t this the man who never wanted to have children? This makes no sense at all.

No, R344. From very early one he said how he wanted, a big happy family in fact.

Interesting, she had to hire a sf lawyer because no other LA top attorneys want to take her case.

Scott Rudin is one of the few Hollywood insiders to expose Jolie for what she is.

“There is no movie of Cleopatra to be made (and how is that a bad thing given the insanity and rampaging spoiled ego of this woman and the cost of the movie is beyond me),” Rudin tells Pascal. “This will just spin even further out into Crazyland,” he writes. “But let me tell you I have zero appetite for the indulgence of spoiled brats and I will tell her this if you don’t.”

“She’s a camp event and a celebrity and that’s all, and the last thing anybody needs is to make a giant bomb with her that any fool could see coming,” he writes.

Scott Rudin was on point when he said Angelina is a camp event.

What does he mean by camp event?

Dang, that's harsh R347, though Scott Rudin sounds like he's the type of guy who talks shit about *everyone*. That's not to say that he's wrong, but his willingness to trash anyone & everyone is probably what made him so successful in a very tough business

Is it true that the plane incident was a setup? I heard she had already rented a place weeks before she divorced Brad.

When is this evil witch gonna get her comeuppance?

R348 This is a camp event. Thrusting out her emaciated withered leg for all to behold and marvel at.

From the Urban Dictionary: “Camp” n. or “Campy” adj. refers to intentionally exaggerated thematic or genre elements, especially in television and motion picture mediums. “Camp” style willfully over-emphasizes certain elements of the genre or theme, creating an almost self-satirical milieu.

Whoever said Brad would struggle to get another A-List girlfriend is full of shit. Doesn't matter how old he is, he could snap his fingers and always have his pick.

Her kind of obsessive, vindictive behavior fits better with a sociopath, a psychopath, a narcissist, or a borderline personality? Anyone here knows about this stuff?

The older kids will stick with Jolie because, on some level, they know she will support $$$ them the rest of their lives even if that is not the healthiest choice for them. Brad will pay for their college or help them get into the business (or a business), but being raised in the midwest he probably expects them to fly free one day.

Will Angie be able to support them? She spends money like water and her A-list earning days are just about over. Brad won't give her a penny after the twins turn 18. Hope she invested wisely.

WHET the Jolie-Pitt Foundation?

I had no idea black women on Lipstick Alley worship Angelina and have a deep hatred on Brad.

Lainey’s take on the whole Brad and Angelina’s media coverage.

[quote] Lainey’s take on the whole Brad and Angelina’s media coverage.

I thought they liked him because they think he’s mixed race.

Maybe not, R357. Frankly, she may not live long enough to support them. She looks emaciated - either from an eating disorder or opioids. I am surprised the press does not pick up on that more.

Mayhap.

R360, Lainey is just shilling for Jolie.

"Oh, it's all so confusing!" No it isn't. Jolie is unhappy with the result and is appealing. Not confusing at all.

Interesting court documents on her severe parental alienation.

Ugh, I hate all this passive aggressive shit from Farrow & the like; if Brad did something so *terrible* - just put it out there - say what it is. But if you're going to tell us he can be a real asshole at times, well show me someone who isn't. Among the many ills of social media, I hate it as a medium to smear people without specifics or tangible evidence.

R366- Can Brad sue the mommy's boy for slander? If he can , I really hope he will. It is the only way to stop people from using SM to do this to people.

r325/r327: Brad always had legal custody, but its the joint physical custody that's been the contention point. Joint legal is fine, but doesn't mean much if you hardly ever see your kids. A timeline:

Pitt & Jolie split in late 2016. She had sicced CPS on him; he also had alcohol issues and other problems that needed correction. So that first year was spent with Brad doing rehab, & Angie keeping primary custody in the meantime with supervised visits for him. He needed to tread carefully because of the initial charges, of which he was later fully cleared.

r325 mentions the Spring 2017 interview (GQ?) where Brad stated the need for patience with both Angelina and the kids and the need to "heal up" before things could settle down to normal. So he was still operating under that belief 6 months in. As noted he also believed going to court would make things worse for the kids; of course Jolie knew this and used it against him.

By early 2018 he'd had enough, & took her to court before she left for the UK to film the Maleficent sequel, planning to take the kids with her for months. He produced plenty of evidence of her committing PA (bad-mouthing, restricting communications, etc). He won that round, & Angie was strongly warned to watch her step lest she lose her custodial privileges. She had to send the kids back to LA instead of setting them up longterm in England - pissing her off bigtime. She had big goals in the UK & the forceback to the US clearly put a damper on her plans.

The ruling for that case is at the link here.

Brad won more time & freedom from interference. But Jolie continued her shenanigans, because by early 2020 there was talk of a full custody trial. The continued alienation of the older kids, influencing the younger ones, likely played a role; the Holiday plans in 2019 were also contentious & I think Pitt was upset that either he didn't have fair time or Jolie was dragging the kids back early. I also believe the restrictions from visiting his parents & family out-of-state weighed heavily. COVID in early 2020 made delays, plus Jolie threw a spanner and got a delay with the request to disbar the private judge, but by late 2020 the trial commenced with a ruling in the past several weeks, with Brad's side prevailing.

The appeals will go on, but unless the judge is thrown off the case, or Jolie wins her appeal, the custody ruling goes permanent by end of 2021.

R353. Yet Angelina did not thrust her leg out in a satiric manner. She believed that her scrawny anorectic leg was one of the wonders of the modern world, and its beauty would bring the audience to tears.

I thought about her directorial debut today, about a tortured Serbian rapist and his objectified Muslim victim in a gross love story during the Bosnian war. She is some kind of insane misogynist at heart. A vampire without a moral compass. How could you make refugees your PR game and then use rape camp as your movie theme?

R369, the end of 2021? pax would be 18 by then and wouldn’t be afraid to spill how terrible Brad is as a father just because he didn’t want to adopt him in the first place and Farrow would already penned something on Brad in the NY times because Angelina reminds him of his mother.

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R369- She looks like a mainline junkie in that photo and not one bit sexy. She should have worn something that covered her arms and legs. She looks very bad and unhealthy. Unhealthy is far from sexy.

what are you on about r371? Pax turning 18 this year will not affect the overall custody ruling going permanent. It will only affect the youngest four kids by then, but no matter.

Brad’s mistake is admitting he has a alcohol/weed and anger problems in a magazine now there are people using that as leverage and proof that Angie is just protecting her kids from a bad father. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Angelina who urged him to do it as it was the same time he still trusted Angelina and believe that going to court was a bad idea. This is what will happened to harry when Meghan files for divorce with all his confessions to Oprah.

[quote] and wouldn’t be afraid to spill how terrible Brad is as a father just because he didn’t want to adopt him in the first place

I think the one he didn't want was the 2nd asian kid; Brad had what he wanted at that point - bio kids - and probably felt they had their hands full. It seems feasible that Angelina is cooking up some big bombshell article to expose Brad, but Brad wisely conceded a lot of his issues already so unless it's a doozy, its going to look like typical bratty teen boy fights with messy flawed father (story at 11:00)

Her fans or bots are already trying to circulate the fact that he dated Juliette Lewis and 14 year old Shalane McCall when he was in his mid 20’s..

R354, I respectfully disagree. Someone mentioned Regina King or Andra whatever her last name is as A-listers, they are not. I honestly can’t think of any A-list women who are single. The young up and comers who genuinely have a career aren’t going to be checking for him, only the opportunists. Brad is going to be in his 60s when this is all said and done. What 20-something year old starlet would sign up for a man that age with all his baggage? I can see a fashion model or insta influencer going for him or an actress of a more appropriate age. But to act like he can just snap his fingers and everyone will come running is ridiculous. This isn’t 1994. Did you see how younger Matthew Perry and Ben Affleck were ridiculed on Raya? Plus, the optics for Brad would look horrible since there have been whispers getting louder about him dating underage girls when he was younger, plus what Jolie used against him. I personally see him done with actresses after Jolie. I can see him with an architect or someone professional. I personally hope he goes the Keanu route and that woman is 10 years younger and still gets slammed.

"I personally see him done with actresses after Jolie. I can see him with an architect or someone professional."

Oh, he'll give non-industry professionals a try, and give it up after they make him feel uneducated or even stupid. So he'll go back in the industry, and if he's really lucky and sensible, he'll end up with a Susan Downey type, someone who has a career of her own, no kids of her own, and who is willing to spend all her personal time dealing with his shit.

Although there's good odds he'll end up with a B-lister in her 30s who's happy to give up the rat race and be Mrs. Brad, and who'll want kids of her own and start resenting her fucked-up stepchildren when she does.

Good thing Brad walked away from Scientology the the org was obviously trying to black mail him with this teen girl so he can not leave. Good thing he didn’t make a move on her because it would have been caught on a spy cam and Angie would have released the vid by now.

R372 Angelina had been forbidden to move the children outside CA. She is so bitter and angry that she was told by a judge there would be no family fun to be had in London. Brad has 50/50 custody now so the under 18's are definitely going to be staying put in LA until they turn 18.

Brad might not score an up-and-coming starlet, but that assumes he'd even want one at his age. I agree he'll go industry adjacent and, if he has any luck, will snag a Susan Downey type. Preferably one who doesn't want kids, as he'll have enough drama and expense in future years with the kids he has.

It's a shame Paltrow is remarried. They'd make a great older power couple, and she's definitely not having any more rugrats.

Wtf? I for one hope we never see gwynnie again, why the hell would anyone ship them as a couple

Because it would make Angie's head explode, which would counterbalance the increased Goopiness.

r378 Matthew Perry and Ben Affleck are not Brad fucking Pitt.

And apparently Susan Downey is on DL, since they keep suggesting a "Susan Downey type". Want someone to take you away, Susan?

Couldn't blame the woman. Can you imagine dealing with RDJ's issues on a daily basis?

[quote] he dated Juliette Lewis and 14 year old Shalane McCall when he was in his mid 20’s..

He initially dated Lewis while she still lived at home with her parents and was finishing HS though she was legally emancipated.

Pitt never dated McCall. Her family always said that was some PR concocted by the TV show.

Angelina's boyfriend lived with her and her mom when she was 14. When it comes to a messy personal past, she has more skeletons than he does.

R388, the 80’s were no one bats an eye on being in a PR relationship with a 14 year old.

[quote] Matthew Perry and Ben Affleck are not Brad fucking Pitt.

Correct, but I am fucking Matt Damon.

[quote] she has more skeletons than he does.

Including that of her own scrawny, heroin-riddled body.

[quote] the 80’s were no one bats an eye on being in a PR relationship with a 14 year old.

“PR”?

Look at those titties. Angelina Jolie Voight is like Kim Kardashian. She was a naturally stunning LA teenager who nonetheless became addicted to cosmetic surgery.

Even in 1998, Angelina wasn't all natural. She had her first nosejob in her teens.

[quote]Because it would make Angie's head explode, which would counterbalance the increased Goopiness.

Isn't that true; she'd be producing candles called "My Snatch Smells Like Candy (and Brad Loves it!), while Apple, apparently an ultra-mean girl, would be trying to give Shiloh a princess makeover and trying to sleep with Pax. She'd be telling everyone she loves the twins best of all, even better than her own kids!

It would be a celeb shit show for the ages

Apple and Shiloh are such Hollywood insider brat names. All they need is Suri to fill out the mean girl trio.

angelina u old mean witch bitch skunt !!!

Shiloh doesn’t appear bratty.

Paltrow might be pretentious as hell, but he would have been a lot better off procreated with her. Her kids may or may not be bratty, but they seem relatively normal.

“She will never forgive him”

She'll never forgive him for gaining his fair 50% rights to his own kids? She wants 'justice to prevail' - ? It has prevailed. The father won his fair share of time and involvement after five years of stonewalling.

What a crazy bitch.

They look the same age even though Brad is 12 years apart.

Wonder how often Scientology pulls that kind of stunt. You know there has to be tons of blackmail material with John Travolta.

Interesting that Pitt was naive enough to get pulled in, but smart enough to get out after three years. In general, it seems like he misses all sorts of red flags and will take a lot of crap, but when he's done, he's done.

Angelina probably thought she'd be able to walk over him on the custody stuff, but, unlike her, he knew enough to hire good lawyer's and follow their advice.

As for future girlfriends, I doubt he'll date really young women, but he's rich, damn good looking for a guy his age and successful on the producing end of things. His youngest kids are 12, so only another six years of child support/custody wrangling. That would be doable for a lot of women.

What does the lawyer possess?

[quote]As for future girlfriends, I doubt he'll date really young women, but he's rich, damn good looking for a guy his age and successful on the producing end of things. His youngest kids are 12, so only another six years of child support/custody wrangling. That would be doable for a lot of women.

It won't even be 6 years by the time all is said and done--more like 4.

Angie's an idiot if she thinks Brad cares about her 'forgiveness' at this point. She's treated him like shit for at least 5 years--there is no upside to his agreeing to what she wants.

Bump

R407, why did you find a “Bump” necessary 17 minutes after the prior post?

For my own purposes.

[quote] Paltrow might be pretentious as hell, but he would have been a lot better off procreated with her. Her kids may or may not be bratty, but they seem relatively normal.

Gwyneth Paltrow has no filter and proudly says all the vain stuff most of us keep to ourselves but she is hardworking, maintains relationships in her industry and weakens an effort at remaining close to her friends and family. She’s a functional, responsible human being. You can’t make the same claims about Angelina who literally wants to be worshipped as a goddess.

Aging and losing her looks must be brutal for her and I would have some sympathy for her if she hadn't been a heartless cunt all of her life. A phoney humanitarian as well.

“the real Angelina is self-centered and a control freak. She has no patience at all. She doesn’t do things out of the kindness of her heart. And she’s totally psycho,”

She should have just sucked it up and stayed a single mother. Used a sperm donor if she wanted to give birth to bio kids, and not get tangled up in (another) messy marriage. She's incapable of staying out of relationship trouble.

Sounds to me from this latest volley that she is furious that Brad didn't just roll over and go away as she wished, once she wanted to split with him. She resents the hell out of him now for being the kids' father, and for putting up a fight to stay in that role (that she put him in!). Too late Angie, should have taken a different road.

She'll tear up her children in the process and eventually drive them away.

She probably would’ve won against a less rich and famous man. I think Brad was always sort of a prize for her. Getting the hottest man in Hollywood and him leaving the golden girl of Hollywood for her was a coup (though I think there were problems in the marriage before she was involved). Brad was able to bankroll this long fight, ost men wouldn’t be able to. Although, Halle Berry ultimate lost also, but her kid was younger and I’m not sure she was as tenacious as Angelina. Though she did accuse Gabriel of having a on going sexual relationship with a relative, which was nuts reading about.

Yes Halle is similar to Angie - both unstable women who are unable to maintain relationships and fond of lashing out at their former partners with lies. Halle had her daughter's hair evaluated by a lab and accused Gabriel of dying her hair blond. Recently, due to Halle's drop in income, her child support was halved to $8000/month. It is not clear if she will have to pay support for the Martinez toddler. That divorce has not been finalized.

Both these women should have used sperm banks.

Yeah, Angie would have been able to get complete control over her children if she'd adopted as a single mother and bred by a sperm donor, but of course she should never have been a mother at all. Nobody with a Cluster B personality disorder should ever have children.

At the time she snagged Brad, the attraction (among other things) was likely stealing him away from Jen Aniston, huge TV star. Once she got him & had a couple of beautiful kids with him, he just should've gone somewhere & died, as per her wishes.

Actually, Brad dying would have been so great for Angie's image and her personal wishes, that I'm amazed she never poisoned him!

R405 The lawyer possesses the means to turn off the God-damned Autocorrect.

The tide over at Celebitchy seems to be very subtly turning against Angie after the 'she'll never forgive Brad' headline. Mothers who have been through their own acrimonious custody battles seem to be tiring of her unrelenting bitterness.

Although one poster recognized that the headline makes Angie look so bad they are claiming it came from Brad to smear Angie.

R360 That gossip blogger really is a rotten, shameless whore. Comparing Farrow vs. Allen to this case is unforgivable. She's trying to paint Brad like he's Woodie Allen using guilt by association. She is an awful cunt and I hope she gets cunt cancer.

R421 I don't know they seem to be partial to "The woman is never wrong, only men are abusive" line that irritating white women generally favor.

R421, her bots on social media are trying to out Brad as a pedo and Ronan Farrow is the only big name who defended her which makes me think they both will work on something together soon on Brad.

Pretty soon feminists will be claiming that men fighting for custody of their children is abuse and misogyny. Every day I feel more and more blessed to have been born gay.

Angie, imo, tried to pin the pedo label on Brad the day before she made the divorce announcement. Does anyone else remember the sudden online frenzy of trying to pin-the-pedo-tale on the Hollywood celebrity articles?

People were specifically naming Pitt as a possibility, which was surprising as he was still universally viewed as, and according to Jolie, a great dad married to that wonderful Angelina Jolie. Then, the next day, she drops the bombs about violence perpetrated by Pitt so dangerous to the health and safety of their children that she needs to call both CPS and the fucking FBI.

She tried to hint/imply on her pen-ops/essays about children being physical and SEXUALLY abuse during covid. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the pedo/sexual abused accusations on Zahara are next.

She is a psycho but she does remind me of those glamorous movie stars back in the day.

Of course Angelina's glamor was going to curdle as she got older. When your entire persona is centered in youth and beauty, as those decay you will become bitter and twisted.

Brad is right to fight for custody, especially of the bio girls. Angelina is going to resent her daughters more and more as they get older and more attractive. I'd be surprised if Shiloh OR Vivienne still had any kind of relationship with her by the time they are 30.

R428, I agree but I think it's just as important that he have the son as well. Boys need their fathers. The age of 8 maybe the worst time for a little boy to lose his father - no matter how that loss manifests itself, death, divorce, parental alienation. What she did to those children is unforgivable. It pretty much erases any of your parenting good if you deliberately create life long psychological harm.

I admire Brad's restraint but he just seems to be giving her enough rope to hang herself. Knowing who you are and being mentally healthy has its advantages.

All Brad has to do is follow the excellent advice given to him by his attorneys. Had Angelina done the same, this custody thing would have been settled years ago, and the children would have been better off. But disordered people rarely follow good advice.

This won't really be settled until the twins are 18. Angelina will find a reason to keep fucking around with the custody and digging her heels in at every opportunity. Her whole ego is tied up in it now, and she'll never give up.

Don't stick your dick in crazy.

Brad needs a third witness present and security cams inside the house just in case Angelina accused him of something horrendous.

But if that crazy is wrapped up in a beautiful package then men aren't going to stop sticking their dick in it, let's get real. There are plenty of normal women, they just don't happen to be beautiful or famous. I really do wonder if Brad will stop with the power couplings or if he is just too hungry for that

If I were Brad anyone I had thoughts of being with long term would have to undergo psychological testing after that psycho.

Yeah, because you need a psychological test to tell you that a woman who makes out with her brother and hangs vials of blood on her neck is crazy🙄

Face it, he was blinded by her beauty and allowed himself to believe she was normal and stable What a dummy.

He believes that he can fix her.

She fucked him like crazy and helped him make money. She gave him the babies he wanted.

If she cooked for him and his mom liked her, they'd still be together. He's straight.

This is probably her longest relationship (12 years)as she is known to get bored easily.

I wonder if he cheated on her. She is so bitter, like a women scorned. With her massive ego she would never stop being vengeful over that. Did any of you see pictures of their wedding day? Both looked absolutely miserable.

R435- Oh, what a scathing reply. 🙄 She was proudly bat shit but there are many who are very skilled at hiding their true self while dating someone they want to be with. But you should know that since you seem to feel so sarcastically superior and knowledgeable.

[quote] Did any of you see pictures of their wedding day?

R14 did.

r439 = Psycho Angie's PR squad attempting to poison people's minds against Brad.

R442- Do you have reading comprehension problems? I despise her and have been team Brad from day one. Wtf is your problem.

R443- ETA- putting you on ignore.

I still hold to the theory that Brad and Marion Cotillard had an affair while making their movie, Allied. Cotillard became pregnant around that time, and there was so much speculation that Pitt was the father that she and her partner publicly said the baby was theirs.

Angelina Jolie went ballistic thinking Brad Pitt was going to leave her - in front of the world - for Marion, who was younger, very beautiful, and had an Academy Award for BEST ACTRESS.

Marion was also the genuine Frenchwoman that Angelina's mother always tried to be.

To be fair, Marion is only a few months younger than Angelina. Both born in 1975.

Brad Pitt is a fan of Ayn Rand (as is Angelina and most of Hollywood). His crowd are also believers in manifest destiny. (They have to be to make it through the years of bad gigs and casting couches).

He thought he found in AJ his Dagny Taggart who would make his life make sense on a grand scale. He had in Jennifer Aniston someone who liked living, in multimillionaire terms, simply: dogs, friends, the beach, cargo pants and a tank top, California.

AJ offered him the idea of being a real-life superhero plus 6 children. He swapped out a quiet, small fantasy for a big, unstable one, and he couldn’t deal with it.

[quote] I still hold to the theory that Brad and Marion Cotillard had an affair while making their movie, Allied.

Didn’t she (and Angelina! And Keira Knightley) also nail Johnny Depp?

Brad should have stuck with Jen. I've heard that Anniston wasn't against children and actually had several miscarriages while married to Brad.

They should have just hired a surrogate to make 2-3 sunkissed blond babies. They probably would have ended up divorced anyway, but Jen wouldn't have gone nuts on him and they could have shared custody like civilized people.

R450 I imagine Aniston is feeling very smug about now.

It's not surprising that she can be friends with Brad now. Whatever hurt feelings she had, she's seen karma run her ex over with a truck. She can be friendly and sympathetic while watching him suffer.

r445 I've also remained suspicious about Pitt & Cotillard and the rumors being true. It would explain a lot, in terms of Jolie's vengefulness and utter burn-it-all-down-to-the-ground attitude when they split. No one has seen verified photos of Cotillard's daughter, even though she was photographed regularly out with her older son when he was a baby/toddler.

I also like the way r448 thinks. Great descrip of Aniston and the Jen-Brad synergy.

Aniston froze her eggs years back, no?

She wanted to move to the UK and plan her political career there since she is in her 40’s and her acting days in HW are over.

I'm also curious about Cotillard's daughter. Why so few photos of her when there are plenty of her older brother? All of Brad's children with Angelina resemble him, and we have lots of photos of them as babies. If Marion's baby looked like them, it would be easy to tell. Marion might have a very good reason for keeping the little girl away from the paparazzi.

If Angelina had been less of a cunt, she might have been able to have her UN career. She could have remained based in the US and traveled abroad when Brad had the kids.

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R458 never trust British people.

I didn't mean to imply that I believe Cotillard's child's father is, in fact, Brad Pitt.

I do mean that I believe Jolie might have believed it. She and Pitt appeared to already be at the end of their relationship, she had the kids and a future as some kind of goodwill ambassador (and maybe director, she definitely saw that in her future at the time). Combined with the likelihood that Pitt and Cotillard did have an on-set affair, and then the pregnancy, and Angie was ready to blow everything up.

R452, it’s funny, a friend of mine said something very similar yesterday. Her child’s father, who is something of a deadbeat, had a near-fatal health emergency. She said that all her anger at him just evaporated. She doesn’t want to reunite or anything, but something changed when she saw him brought low.

R460, I forgot about that!

Well, as my mom used to say “if he did it with you, he’ll do it to you”.

"If I were Brad anyone I had thoughts of being with long term would have to undergo psychological testing after that psycho."

Or maybe from now on, he'll listen when all his friends and advisers don't like someone, or warn him against getting serious with someone who's batshit and covered from head to toe in red flags.

But although anyone could see that their relationship would end in tears and years in family court, I can see why they'd find each other irresistible - the publicity value of the relationship was just too high to step away.

[quote] Is Brad Pitt pursuing Andra Day romantically? On May 29, The Mirror reported that the duo connected at the 2021 Oscars in April. "They were flirting backstage and are believed to have swapped numbers. It could be just professional, but some of Brad's pals have been talking about what a great couple they would make," said a source, noting that the singer-actress "has been on Brad's radar for a while." We'll certainly be keeping an eye on this one ... while also taking the news with a hefty grain of salt!

Andra Day could be a smart choice. She's famous but not more famous than him, she's old enough (36) that the relationship won't raise too many eyebrows, no kids or ex-husbands of her own to deal with, and young enough that if she and Pitt wanted another child or two, they could have them.

Also, as she's African American, Angelina couldn't say shit about her without looking racist.

Smart for him, he'd still be part of a power couple, he'd have a beautiful younger fertile wife, and Ang would have to lay off her in public.

While doing her damndest to make life hell for Mr. and Mrs. Pitt in private. Surely Day could do better than a much older man with a psycho ex-wife and fucked-up kids?

She probably could, but she'd still be Mrs. Brad Pitt. Even if the marriage didn't last, it would be a huge career boost for her.

Angelina could try to make life hell for Mr. and Mrs. Pitt, but then all the Pitts would have to do is leak to the right sources about her behavior. She'd just end up looking like a bitter, racist old woman.

Brad is smart enough to know that even with 50/50 custody, the kids from the marriage to Angelina are likely lost to him. The youngest two will be 13 this summer, and by the time custody gets totally sorted out, they'll be nearly 14. The two oldest will be of age and under no obligation to see him, and the middle two will be older teens who can wiggle out of seeing dad much if they really want to.

He MIGHT still have a shot with the twins, but he'd probably be better off simply supporting the older 6 through college (assuming they even go) and starting over with a new wife. Have a couple of kids he can raise normally and leave all his money to. If the kids are mixed race, Angelina can't start accusing him of racism towards his non-white adopted children.

Day will have the coup of being Mrs. Brad Pitt, and she may be at the time of her life where she wants children. She could do a lot worse than a good-looking, powerful actor/producer who WANTS a new family he can spoil.

Would anyone ever advise a woman to start a new family and basically give up on the fucked-up kids from the first marriage?

People really do think that parenting is optional for men.

If Pitt and Audra Day had children, what would the children’s skin color(s) be?

Not give up on the kids, but realize that his relationships with them will probably never be the same. He can't force the children to have a relationship with him, and 5 years of parental alienation on Angelina's part might make that impossible. Is he supposed to just wait around until the kids MAYBE decide they want him in their lives in ten or twenty years? Maybe he wants the experience of a normal domestic life now, with kids who won't be fucked up by a borderline mother.

He can afford to support 20 children if he wants to. He can always leave the door open to his kids with Angelina and be happy if they come back to him. In the meantime, though, he has the right to try again.

Pitt moving on to have brown children with a brown woman would make Angelina boil. Brown kids are supposed to be her 'thing'.

Jesus. A lame, not particularly believable rumor and you fraus (obvious at this point) are planning his new family.

I don't know about all this "the kids are lost to him" thing; when kids are younger, they need their mother. As they get older, particularly boys, need a dad. Now that Maddox will presumably go back to school in the fall, his anti-Brad campaign will be at least somewhat dampened (though he'll likely spend his time tweeting about him in support of Mommy Dearest).

Even if Brad doesn't remain an A+ actor, he's still a very bankable star so he's going to bring in the $$ to put them through college or whatever they want to do whereas at some point, they are going to weary of Angie's demands on them. Most kids eventually break the stranglehold controlling parents have on them, one way or another.

It could be that Brad is simply pursuing female company and has no plans to have another family. It's just rumored they are dating anyway. Andra is 36 with no kids; she may not want any.

R473, I was thinking the same thing. Ha The story sounds like obviously PR planted. They were ‘flirty’ at the Oscars, which was months ago, and nothing since. Now these posters have them married with children. These posts actually sound very LSA.

Some people are way too invested in these people's lives. Now we've marred Brad Pitt to Andra Day and they have a couple of kids! Sheesh!

We were just speculating. Some of you seem awfully invested in Pitt NOT remarrying.

You're not speculating r478, you're fantasising.

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So Maddox is still not back at yonsei university? The school has been open since 2 months ago and him being home will deff influence his siblings to be close off to their dad.

Nope, R479. Pitt's personal life is just fodder for gossip and speculation, like every other celebrity thread on this site.

It's fantasizing to believe that Pitt won't marry another woman at some point. Het men like to have a wife around, and he can still have his pick.

Gawd, those are some large replacement boobs she bought herself in the link at R480. And how they stand at attention at her age!

What's wrong with the kid with the bun; is she bawling or something?

Angie showed off her big fake tits in By the Sea, her last film with Pitt. They're a lot larger, perkier, AND more evenly spaced than what she had in Gia (presumably her natural set, since once was about an inch higher than the other).

R479, is correct. Speculating whether Brad will remarry is one thing. Taking a frankly absurd article as fact and spinning it into him marrying this person and having biracial babies to piss Angelina off, etc... is fantasy.

The kids are a lost cause they are obviously Team mom and no matter how much time he got now with them it wont change a damn thing.

"Most kids eventually break the stranglehold controlling parents have on them, one way or another."

I don't think that's true, I think the majority of kids with crazy and/or controlling parents aren't able to disengage from the crazy. I mean in my family, I'm the only one to break away out of four siblings. All the straight ones are still enmeshed.

I agree. I think it’s like Mia Farrow. All but one has stood by her despite some obvious crazy. I don’t think Angelina’s kids will turn on her. She indulges them and has been the primary parent. They also seem to adore her. If one or more turn on her, it’s going to be way down the road. In all likelihood they’ll have a decent relationship with Brad, but will be much closer to her.

Pax so far turned out to be doing quite well, he is attending regular school,have many friends, looks and dress better than Maddox and still hate his dad.

R489. Brad Pitt had many reasons to not want to adopt another child when he was dealing already with 3 bio kids and 2 other adopted kids. Angelina maliciously told Pax that Brad never wanted him. Angelina's engaging in parental alienation is the reason Pax hates Brad.

In the vid Pax is the one who opened/closed the doors for Angelina, talked to the driver and sat in the front seat while Maddox didn’t seem to care.

Isn’t Pax the second oldest? He came before any of the bio-kids (I think.) But I do recall reading that Pitt was hesitant to adopt another one so soon. Angelina should not have told the kid that though. Pretty cruel if she did.

Shiloh was 10 months old when she adopted Pax who was also an older child. Pax did not adjust at first and would constantly cause behavioral problems when the family were being pap there were also physical fights between him and Maddox. When Brad and Angelina first got divorce the tabloids reported that Pax and Shiloh would rather live with Brad because they were “emotionally compatible” with him but then all of a sudden Pax is team mom and post a anti father’s day story about Brad on instagram.

R482, there's a big difference between gossip and speculation and spinning a marriage, a couple of kids, the reaction of his ex, etc. just because Brad Pitt talked to another woman.

Is DL the only forum in all the internet where Brad is supported instead of Saint Angie?

I mean I totally agree she is awful. But most of the world seems to support her and blame Brad about everything.

The Daily Mail is usually pro-Brad. According to this thread Celebitcy (sp?) and LSA are very pro-Angelina. I used to read D-listed and they were pro-Aniston or at least a more balanced. Not sure where they stand on Brad vs. Angelina. Lainey, who I also haven’t read in years, continues to worship Angelina. She used to rag on Aniston non stop back in the day, which was insane considering she was the one dumped. Just Jared I was convinced was Angelina’s go to blog back in the day. Not sure where they stand now, but back then it was Brangelina central.

Here's where things might shift for her; unless there are specific charges of abuse, most people think 50/50 custody is more than reasonable, particularly since they kids aren't babies. If she keeps up this "I'll never forgive Brad...I'll never stop fighting", whatever public goodwill she has will be gone & she'll just look like Crazy Ex Wife who won't let old earnest, if flawed Brad (A+ star) go. Websites like Just Jared want clicks, so they are going to support any ant-Angie stories or postings (and DL already does), so I think unless she changes her tune (or at least become more subtle), she's going to lose what public support she has left & cryptic tweets from Ronan Farrow won't help

Agreed: Their youngest kids will be teenagers in a month. Angie is acting like Brad is going to leave them in the woods or something.

She definitely have something up her sleeves . The decision whether to toss out the judge is still a month a away and we have Ronan Farrow and danielle pollack a family court reform advocate in state/federal level tweeting to each other about it and a former attorney general speaking to her behalf in the media. I believe they are all connected to her and will make it public to push for the rights of children which will be a good PR for Angelina and help her case while all brad wanted to do was to see his kids more.

R499 If you pay someone enough, they will testify according to your wishes. And certainly Angie has sought out biased "experts". Any family court judge will see through her shenanigans. If she continues to engage in parental alienation, she should lose custody period. She can go to poor countries in Asia and buy some more kids (she bought the older ugly Asian kid- he has living parents and a family, and was not an orphan).

Americans are centrists - hence the election of Biden, for example. 50/50 custody is the legal norm in the US for a reason - it is a centrist and fair way for parents to maintain relationships with their kids. Americans support this. They don't support severely personality disordered "camp events" (thanks Scott Rudin for that) trying to usurp the American legal system because she is rich and thinks she is entitled to all she wants.

I remember the huge backlash against Bode Miller when he used his connections to get sole custody of his infant, taking the baby away from his breastfeeding mother. Miller never recovered from this outrageous behavior and lost most his endorsements.

Angelina is just about finished. The only movies she can make now are cartoonish Disney spectacles or comic book crap where her aging, withered features can be caked in makeup and prostheses. As she ages, her personality deficits will worsen - aging narcissists are sad creatures indeed. Her bio kids who lack the trauma of the two Asian kids will most likely turn towards their more mentally healthy parent.

[quote] The decision whether to toss out the judge is still a month a away

That is her appeal. Do you know how often appeals succeed? The trial judge's decision will be implemented.

No PR campaign is going to help Angelina with her court case. She had a very learned and respected retired judge who knew exactly what he was doing. He knows how to justify his decisions and will issue a well reasoned opinion that will in all likelihood withstand any appeals.

If anything the current judge probably went easier on her than some other judge might have. Brad's attorney - in a court document - has said she violated past court custody orders. I know Brad doesn't want to ask the court to hold her in contempt but some other judge might do it sua sponte. Judges don't normally like their orders being ignored.

It is now confirmed that Pax did attend regular school and he just graduated .

Mazel tov Pax! Word of advice - stay on the educational gravy train as long as possible; force your rich parents to throw you off kicking & screaming!

He’s Asian r503. He will do amazing in school and be successful

So the rumor that one of his classmates the he follows screenshot the anti Father day instagram rant about Brad was also true.

Is Brad part Asian?

"He’s Asian [R503]. He will do amazing in school and be successful"

He hasn't been raised by the kind of Asian mother who makes their kid's grades their top priority in life, he's been raised by a high school dropout who doesn't seem to believe in standard education.

Lol, shut the fuck up, r507. Fuck all you momma boy queen's. I wish I could dump you in a hot vat of oil where you belong.

jolie u horrid kunt go leave brad alone to adore his kids......ur a monster

she is despised in hollywood......a real creep

Pax graduated from Notre Dame Academy in Sherman Oaks. A typical middle-class LA private Catholic school. Famous grads: Rachel Bilson, Kirsten Dunst, Rami Malek.

I still don't think Brad will ever have much of a relationship with Maddox or Pax. Maddox has always resented him, and Pax will never forgive him for not initially wanting to adopt him.

Hmm I have a bad feeling this is not a birthday week trip but more on violating court orders. Something big is about to happened they prob wont come back in LA or they all will all be interviewed.

Shiloh always looks so distressed in these paparazzi pictures.

She is so tiresome. CANT she stop? How many pap walks does she need to prove her point?

What is the consequences if she violated the court order and does not return her kids and what if those kids who are already a certain age agree with her? I think she going to do something dramatic because this is who she is.

Where do these kids go to school? Are they even able to read and write and do basic arithmetic?

Pax looks like an Asian Josh Hartnett.

Shiloh is looking like she's going to cry again, and the product placement in the Page Six article makes it obvious this was staged and the paps were called. If Shiloh is that upset about being around the paps then Angelina needs to stop doing these stunts. I suppose maybe Shiloh is putting on an act for the paps too, but none of the other kids seem to be.

I wonder if New York is just a pit stop and she is attempting to run away with the kids and never to return to America?

I agree that Shiloh always looks very distressed in these photos. I wonder if she realizes it's her mother who sets up these situations? I hope the kids figure this out someday so they can get away from her and live private healthy lives.

I feel bad for the older boys they are filled with anger and rage towards Brad and feel obligated to protect their mom instead of hanging out with their friends during the summer. The boys even opened a public Instagram account to promote First they Killed my father and the posts is mostly about her.

I honestly don't think they have any friends to hang out with.

I don't know if I necessarily believe that Angelina is a bad person, but I do think she's unable to have healthy relationships with anyone and it's affecting her kids. She needs professional help from someone who will tell her like it is and not just tell her what she wants to hear. Brad's not a hero, he relied on substances to deal with stress and that had to have affected the kids, but he's gone through a lot to try to fix himself. Angelina hasn't done anything except pap walks and attacks on Brad, the judge, the system.

Meanwhile the kids don't have friends or school or lives outside of tagging along with whatever their mom is doing. They're too old for that.

We don't know if the kids have friends they hang out with, they're not papped everyday and are usually only papped when Angie is parading them for some reason. But they're getting too old to be shunted around in a big brood.

Pax recently graduated in a private school and according to an article has tons of friends. Maddox attended Yonsai university but came back in December of 2019 because of covid he hasn’t returned ever since and the school has been opened since march.

[quote]Maddox attended Yonsai university but came back in December of 2019 because of covid he hasn’t returned ever since and the school has been opened since march.

I'm guessing he's making Protecting Mummy a full-time job. Now that he's legally an adult, I'll bet he increasingly acts out against Brad to please her & put further pressure on the younger kids

I think Hollywood kids are fucked no matter what, and we should give both Angelina and Brad credit that none of these kids looks like baby prostitutes whoring on social media or talentless entitled mehs forcing their "music" on us. (Looking at you, Apple Paltrow.) No overdoses or 40 year old boyfriends.

For the shitshow that is LA, even for non famous kids, that's damn good work.

Angelina told the press last year that Maddox was going to school online so maybe he's still enrolled. Also, wasn't he attending the affiliated American college that has courses in English, and not Yonsei proper?

[quote]I think Hollywood kids are fucked no matter what, and we should give both Angelina and Brad credit that none of these kids looks like baby prostitutes whoring on social media or talentless entitled mehs forcing their "music" on us. (Looking at you, Apple Paltrow.) No overdoses or 40 year old boyfriends.

Apple Paltrow is by all accounts well adjusted and has an excellent relationship with her father (who lives down the road) and her father's family. Goop is a tacky huckster, but at least isn't alienating her children from half their family and making their lives a total drama.

What exactly is the point of this cross-country trip to NYC, mid-week? Does she have business engagements there, if so why does she need to drag all of her large teen brood with her? Can't they just go over to their father's for a few days? (one of the benefits of having a split household, you can send the kids to the other parent when you have business to attend to).

She is so transparent and weird. And clearly uses her children for photo ops and drama against her ex.

R530, it is been awhile since all 6 traveled together, i just find it strange because they did it after the joint custody made the news. I truly believe she is going to pull a huge stunt or do something irresponsible.

[quote] Pax looks like an Asian Josh Hartnett.

Josh Hartnett looks like an Asian Tommy Lee Jones.

Angelina is still acting like it's 2010 and everyone thinks it's adorable that she always has her brood of children with her. What looks cute with little kids looks creepy with teenagers, especially when at least two of them (Shiloh and Vivienne) look so miserable. Angelina is going to act out even more over the next few years as the kids reach adulthood and leave her. Well, Maddox will probably never leave, but the others will. They DO have a rich father who will help them escape, and that's one reason Angie resents Brad so much.

Everyone, deservedly, made fun of Paltrow for her "conscious uncoupling" shtick, but she managed her divorce way better than Jolie has.

[quote] Maddox attended Yonsai university but came back in December of 2019 because of covid he hasn’t returned ever since and the school has been opened since march.

Maddox went to/goes to Underwood International College which Yonsei started in the mid 2000s. It is completely separate from Yonsei though it is on the campus - separate administration, separate faculty, separate classrooms, dorms & other facilities. I suspect it was started to attract dollars and Euros. There are no admission requirements except that you graduate HS and are fluent in English since all classes are in English. Why would you go to what seems like a glorified junior college when you have all the money in the world to help you into a good school. The choice itself seems like some publicity stunt. Maddox supposedly took some tests before he went - probably some kind of HS equivalency test (California has NO regulations or requirements for home schooling) and Jolie bragged to the press that he passed his "requirements". LOL!

We really don't know if Pax graduated from that HS all anyone has shown is that he was on the class program. I can see listing all members of the "graduating class" on that even if they needed to do a little more before they got their diplomas. Catholic schools are loathe to embarrass their students and if someone needs summer school before they get their diploma they would still include them in graduation activities - except for getting that formal diploma. Can you imagine not encouraging your child who is finally going to a regular school to skip their graduation. Even in this time wouldn't both parents, grandparents, aunts & uncles attend some type of celebration for the graduate even if they couldn't all attend the in-person ceremony? To me this is just more proof she has isolated these kids - even alienated them against the rest of the family. Better for her to control and manipulate them without outside interference. At some point early on the alienated child reflects the alienating parent's wishes in their own choices.

This is not a good parent. She is seriously fucked in the head.

ronan farrow might be in nyc.........

[quote]There are no admission requirements except that you graduate HS and are fluent in English since all classes are in English. Why would you go to what seems like a glorified junior college when you have all the money in the world to help you into a good school.

That's interesting; with our without bribery, the rich & famous can get their kids into good schools in the US, so why go to some school South Korea. But what you said makes perfect sense

Well shit, I dodged a bullet, didn't I?

[quote] Maddox attended Yonsai university but came back in December of 2019 because of covid he hasn’t returned ever since and the school has been opened since march.

I know he was homeschooled. Does he have the grades to transfer to USC?

[quote] They DO have a rich father who will help them escape

They don't need him to escape. They can do it on their own, when they're 18. He's honestly even worse than her, if he enabled her fucked up nonsense for so many years. Use him as an ATM, but throw out the rest.

I predict Pax will enroll at NUY's Tisch School of Arts, where he can study theater arts. This is what many rich brats do - Tisch school is almost exclusively made up of rich brats who couldn't get into any other school. I do hope that Angelina has to pay the $65,000/year tuition and not Brad, after all it was Jolie that created these monsters.

Brad is stuck in LA because he is filming his new movie Babylon. I hope he gave her permission to travel with the kids and will come back since his time is limited as filming take longer hour. It’s not fair because whenever she is filming a movie she takes them with her and they mostly stay in the trailers .

r542 she will not longer be dragging the minor younger kids to movie sets to sit around, now that Pitt has 50% custody. She'll need his explicit permission to take them away to anything that cuts into his custodial time, which was just greatly increased.

[quote] I predict Pax will enroll at NUY's Tisch School of Arts, where he can study theater arts.

He will have a craft.

I wonder why she is in NYC? It’s not the place she usually vacation with her kids and Eternals promo is still months away. I know most of the news media/studio headquarters are in nyc and I wonder if she will be interviewed about custody and children’s right with the kids because the judge wouldn’t let them testify so they will do it there instead?

Presumably Ang didn't drag the kids to sets so they could sit around, presumably they had teachers along and were doing schoolwork during the day like normal kids. Hopefully out of the way of the crew and anyone with a real job, but betcha not.

Betcha fifty bucks that the kids would be happier at home, with their own things and a yard to run around and play in, because kids are kids and they need playtime and there's no good place for kids to play on a movie set or location. Which again, is a strike against Angie as a parent, if she drags them to the set whenever she's working, she's putting her own need to keep them close ahead of their need for an appropriate environment.

Once this bunch has escaped her, she'll probably adopt several more.

Actually, I expected her to adopt more after the divorce as a single parent, just so Brad had absolutely no control over part of her family.

Well, maybe that's next.

All 3 of her adoptions are suspicious. Pax and Zahara’s bio moms are still alive and the person who handled one of the adoptions is in prison.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Ronan Farrow tweeted a pic of them together in NY.

I don't want to accuse anyone of being a drug addict, but it's generally rich drug addicts who travel to foreign countries to have their babies. See Anna Nicole Smith.

I thought it was nuts for Angie to fight Brad on anything. He may not be perfect, but he had some ammunition on his side to use against her that could be devastating.

Alls well that ends well, I guess. I'm glad they are sharing custody.

Angie and Jonny Lee Miller back to being fuckbuddies?

A fucking trench coat. Can’t she dress like a normal person and not in designer drag head to toes?

R552, doesn’t he still have a wife? There are rumors that the twins are actually JLM and the female twin have a strong resemblance to him.

Do you really believe every "rumour" you hear r554? The twins look exactly like Pitt (or a combination of Pitt and Jolie), especially the boy. When the heck was Jolie supposed to have got pregnant by JLM without anyone noticing?

DLers believe anything.

R554, do you have eyes? The twins look exactly like Brad Pitt.

Geez nice pap job Angie. Deliberately papped leaving JLM's place. I hope his wife was present. She really knows how to stir up shit.

And...need to correct what I just posted @ r558. Miller and his wife split a couple of years ago. He's been single for a while.

Johnny was lucky to fuck young hot crazy Angie and get out before they had kids. He'd be nuts to go back to that particular polluted well now.

So Angelina wants full custody and to take the kids to live abroad while Brad pays a copious amount of child support? Am I understanding that correctly? If so, does she not understand how asinine that is?

As for JLM… It seems like she mainly went to New York for that pr move. There seems to be no other purpose to her being there. A commenter in the DM so that their friend is JLM’s dealer. Make of that what you will.

Said^

I'm not going to make anything of a comment on a DM article, especially when it's about celebrities and drug dealers. Sounds about as credible as the "rumour" that the twins are JLM's kids.

"So Angelina wants full custody and to take the kids to live abroad while Brad pays a copious amount of child support? Am I understanding that correctly? If so, does she not understand how asinine that is?"

Yes, yes, and no.

People with NPD or BPD aren't very good at processing other people's opinions about their ridiculous demands. Now since NPD is incredibly common in Hollywood and is actually advantageous to someone who wants to claw their way to the top, most narcissists work around that by hiring top publicists to help them deal with that sort of thing. Ang, of course, used to brag that she doesn't have a publicist.

Haha with a bottle of red in hand! In a trench coat!

Jesus, she should just be decked out in lingerie underneath. What a camp event!

At least Johnny can't get the crazy bitch pregnant.

According to People mag Angelina was there with Knox and he and JLM ‘s son are good friends which is weird because she was photographed going in and out by herself.

R567, Knox could have been right next to her. Unless we see what was cropped out, we won't know if he was with her or not.

R568, plenty of pictures of her arriving and leaving (Angelina with her favorite paps on speed dial) and no one is with her.

Cropped pictures.

According to the paps who gave info the page 6 she was alone.

Yeah, she went round for 3 hours of intimacy and left the 6 kids with the bodyguard, right.

That sounds about right r572.

In o e picture you could see her carrying a bottle of wine. I think this was pure pr. JLM looks terrible these days too.

There are new pics of Angelina with pax going to JLM’s apartment the reports also say that Knox was there so he probably spend the night with JLM’s son which is kinda unfair because before Brad has to go to court just so his kids can spend a night on Christmas.

[quote]While some outlets like Page Six pointed out Jolie arrived and left there alone, her hangout with Miller wasn't just the two of them—she was just the only person photographed by paparazzi.

[quote]People wrote that Jolie and Miller “have remained good friends over the years.” People was additionally told by a source that Miller's 12-year-old son Buster and Jolie's 12-year-old son Knox are friends and were also there when Jolie visited.

The pics are of Jolie going into Miller's building and exiting with Pax, their second oldest son. That's another day.

LOL! Did she stage this to try to change the narrative? The Jolie Pitt kids live in LA and the Miller kid lives in NYC - how are they friends? Zoom-buddies?

No way she is not working with this photographer. She has a history of this starting at least when she arranged for an outing with Maddox as a toddler in LA to be papped for the tabs.

[quote] There are new pics of Angelina with pax going to JLM’s apartment the reports also say that Knox was there so he probably spend the night with JLM’s son which is kinda unfair because before Brad has to go to court just so his kids can spend a night on Christmas.

This just isn't true - though the fairness part is accurate.

In May 2018 - following a 7 day evidentiary hearing at which Brad was present every day and Jolie only attended the first day - the judge ordered extended time with their father both in London where they were that summer and in LA when they were ordered to return for visits that summer and after they returned for good in September 2018. Of course we don't know what has been happening in practice but we know that in a court filing from earlier this year that Brad's attorney said that Jolie has violated court custody orders in the past.

Brad was only allowed to visit the kids four hours of every other day on school days, and 12 hours every other day on non-school days which is now extended after the joint ruling, he was frustrated before because Angelina wanted the kids home as early as possible and they couldn’t have sleepovers, he also had to ask permission to bring them out of states to visit his family which she refused or let the kids see them when they are in LA only Pax did because he is already of age to decide on his own.

Hell, maybe Miller is into teen boys now, who knows why Angelina dragged her second Asian son over there. There is no way this strange kid (all the Pitt kids are weird) is good friends with a normal kid who lives across the country. Sad clown Angelina, she thinks we still believe her BS.

And Angie's face has morphed into a frightening visage with that shiny high forehead and strange sharp cheeks, and with that trench coat - "camp event".

I don't think this will end well for her, because she is overplaying her own strength.

Brad's pulling an Elon and is dating a younger alt musician.

She is more thin than Angelina - can't wait for the return fire works!

She also has a young son just like his ex Nico probably reminded him of Angelina and his son Maddox back in the day.

JLM son primarily seems to live in NY, so I don’t see how their kids can be good friends. I agree with the other poster, JLM’s kid appears to be a normal kid who goes to sporting events with his father and does regular kid things. The J-P kids are weird, so I can’t see them having much in common. It’s just an all around weird dynamic with Angelina and those kids.

As for Brad’s dating rumors, none seem credible.

It is good to see in the recent DM pics that Pax is sporting a God’s True Cashmere shirt the brand is run by Brad’s good friend Sat Hari and also Brad who is her silent partner for the company. I know Pax hate his guts but he was the only one that attended regular school during his hs years and visited Brad’s family when they were in California.

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Honestly, who cares who this hag is fucking at this point? She lost all sex appeal a decade ago.

There are photos from 2 time periods. One at night and she was alone going and out. There are a million pictures of her that show the entire area around her. She returned the next day or so during the day with Pax - not the kid who supposedly spent the night. There are also a million pictures of that visit.

Care to link some from her "solo" visit, r589, because from the pics I've seen she wasn't alone, despite what a tabloid said.

There are no pap pics of Angelina and the kids arriving back to LA airport so some believe they must have left America.

Is she really going to be an international fugitive over this? JFC, Pitt was a drunk asshole, not a murderous pedophile. I can't believe she'd risk jail time when most of the kids will be adults in a couple of years anyway.

If Angie fled with the kids, it would be the end of her career as an actress. She wouldn't look like a brave single mother protecting her children: She'd look like a psycho. Women, in particular, would never forgive her for stealing Brad Pitt's children.

Brad's attorney did say that Jolie has violated several court custody orders and the only time Brad did something about it is in 2018 when she was in London with the kids and he couldn’t contact them through calls/texts but I think she still continued to violate it knowing Brad would not held her in contempt.

If Ang flees with the kids, it'd be the end of her career as an actress, but her ultimate triumph as a famous-for-being-famous tabloid queen! Everyone in the world would be paying attention to her again!

She'd also prove me right, I've been predicting that she'll do this for years.

It's gonna be a long 5 years for Brad--She'll pull this shit until the day the twins turn 18.

So in the new pap pics Angelina is showing off her new tat that she got after the joint custody news according to one of the comments in the DM it is a Galileo quote from his trial he said "Eppur si muove" ("And yet it moves"), meaning “ they may have won this battle, but in the end the truth will win out.”

R597, she got that tat years ago. These tabs never get anything right.

It is quite hilarious that she is equating herself to Galileo and his fatal quest for the TRUTH. How can any one doubt she is a narcissist?

Since she was a young girl, Angelina has gotten everything she ever wanted from life because of her extraordinary looks. Now those looks are starting to fade and her power in Hollywood (and everywhere else) is fading along with it. She isn't going to get everything her own way anymore. No wonder she's acting out. She'll continue to do so as she gets older and older.

Nothing wrong with visiting your formerly hot but now flabby mess ex-boyfriend with a bottle of wine at night. Doesnt mean you are screwing. Nope. Not at all.