Who is the current greatest actress in the English speaking world?

Kate Winslet.

Vanessa Redgrave.

From that list I am torn between Cate and Meryl.

Helen Hunt

Cher

I’d love to see Tilda Swinton on this list.

Olivia Colman, who can do it all. Comedy, drama, she even sings well.

Julianne Moore

Tilda Swinton or Charlize Theron.

Of that list, Kristen Davis.

I'll throw in a more out-of-the-box choice, Lesley Manville.

Wow - Kate Winslet is the leader by far. I am surprised people think she is leaps and bounds above the competition. I thought old queens would Meryl by a landslide.

I'd add Judi Dench and Maggie Smith.

It’s Kate Winslet.

Where is: Maggie Smith? Olivia Colman? Judi Dench? Charlotte Rampling? Judy Davis?

Zendaya

Kristen Davis? WTF?

I’m the only living actress with three Best Actress Oscars, bitches.

I can't even make the fucking list? I didn't expect to win but come on, people, this is just mean. Albert's nob or whatever the fuck.

Where's Sissy Spacek?

I think Olivia Colman was a real oversight but I actually think Kate Winslet is a dark horse... she was fortunate enough to break through early and she's got the skills to last. Very diverse.

She could generate some interest as Norma Desmond if they're really determined to do the damn thing, but she's quite a high soprano.

R12... Meryl is dowager, emeritus, ultima. You know Meryl. And I think Meryl's done, even in her own mind. She has nothing to prove. She's doing what amuses/interests her.

r13 I ADORE Judi Dench!

Tilda fucking Swinton

r21 some will hate me for saying this but I thought Kate Winslet gave a very good performance in Woody Allens Wonder Wheel.

Laura Linney

Madonna is the greatest actress for four minutes at a time in her videos. She would have been a terrific silent film actress.

SA, in addition to being in lockstep on another great matter in other threads ;), I think Kate Winslet's worst performance was Titanic and who could really pimp that jello salad? She's talented.

Oooh r28 I wonder what other great matter you are referring to??!

Yes when I think of all of Kates films and which ones she gave great performances in Titantic is definitely not in the top hapf.

Toni Collette

If it weren't for the fact that she's long since transitioned to hag, I'd vote for Judy Davis.

SA, the current most successful worst actress in the English speaking world. ;)

Frances McDormand

R12, the old queen vote is rallying behind Jessica Lange, who hasn't done anything but camp for the last ten years.

SA? say awhat?

Catherine Deneuve

I like Kate Winslet but is this because of her tv show?

I voted for Kate Winslet. Unlike most actresses she doesn't play it safe--she's done a variety of roles and never phones in a performance. There's a reason why at 45 she has a good chance of becoming only the 4th actress to EGOT.

Just look at any of the 7 performances for which she was nominated for an Oscar. None of them are remotely similar.

She has the triple crown of working with Polanski, Woody and Harvey.

Emily Watson.

I would like a movie with Meryl and Kate as mother and daughter. It could be really good.

OP is a daft shitface.

Where’s Toni Collette?

Where’s Tilda Swinton?

OP, I hope ugly people flick lit cigarettes at your face for the rest of your life.

Whatever basic bitches are saying Kate Winslet are basic bitches because TITANIC is all they've seen.

Kristin Davis shouldn't even be on the poll. That's a joke, right?

The correct answers lie between Meryl Streep and Viola Davis. Y'all are IGNORANT.

9%!!!! WTF!!!! See how cruel the world is to me!!!! I'm suffering and I lost two Best Actress Oscars!!!!

Viola is talented, but the suffering angry black wiman routine is old.

Where are Renee Zellweger and Julia Roberts ?

What the fuck is that overrated piece of shit, Nicole Kidman doing in the poll ?

I agree with your two picks, op.

Ranked:

1. Lange and Streep - These two are my favorite actresses of all time. Icons, legends, goddesses. They are my Yin and Yang. They complete me and each other.

2. Blanchett - A powerhouse who never ceases to thrill, rivet, and amaze me.

3. Kate Winslet - I love her and don’t think she gets the credit she deserves. She’s fabulous.

4. Julianne Moore - Always authentic and engaging and a joy to watch.

5. Viola Davis - A bit one note at times, but the depth and well of emotions she brings to her performances is admirable.

6. Nicole Kidman - She can be interesting and authentic, but a bit try-hard at times. The only film I’ve truly loved her in was “Rabbit Hole”.

7. Kristen Davis - She’s fun, perky, and surprisingly effective when she wants to be.

Anya-Taylor Joy is shaping up to be our greatest actress. She's on track to be the next Meryl Streep.

Winslet. Out of the gate with Heavenly Creatures. Underrated because Titanic was credited to Cameron and DiCaprio. Girls went to see it repeatedly because they identified with Winslet. No one else on this list could do that plus Eternal Sunshine, Mildred Pierce, Little Children, The Reader, and make it seem real. Blanchett is great but she's camp and theatrical. Theron relies on stunts or big personality characters.

R49 Well Kate carried Titanic and received the lead actress nomination for it.

Winslet's Oscar win for The Reader is one of the least deserved ever. She's made some really, really terrible movies, like The Holiday, The Mountain Between Us, Insurgent, The Dressmaker, Labor Day, Wonder Wheel, The Life of David Gale, A Little Chaos, Finding Neverland, Carnage, Blackbird, Allegiant, All the King's Men, Movie 43...

Winslet isn't a director or producer, R51.

Kristin Davis? Now THAT'S a horse of a different color.

Girls that should’ve been on the list and are worthy of touching the hems of Streep and Lange’s gowns:

Tilda Swinton

Annette Bening

Charlize Theron

Frances McDormand

Glenn Close

[quote] Where are Renee Zellweger and Julia Roberts ?

Seriously? They belong on OP's list about as much as Kristen Davis does.

People forget Winslet turned in 2 of the best performances of the year when she won her Oscar. She won a Golden Globe and SAG Award for Revolutionary Road, and a BAFTA and SAG for The Reader.

By the way, I don't think any other actor has one two film SAG Awards in the same year.

r55 Julia acted circles around Meryl (who is in the poll ) in the only movie they acted together.

And Renee's best actress win is the best in the last two decades.

*won

How did this poll suddenly go from Kate to Jessica? These polls never match reality.

Outside of DL, I've never heard anyone acknowledge Jessica Lange's existence.

R57 Oh, cut the shit. Jules was fantastic in one scene where she screams at the top of her lungs and wrestles the pills from Meryl, and that’s it.

Admittedly, this isn’t one of Meryl’s strongest performances - she struggles with playing rage and depression - but she’s still fun, hilarious, heartbreaking, and captivating. On her worst day Meryl is better than Jules on her best.

I withhold my judgment.

Meryl, along with the most esteemed thespians and revered awarding bodies, have been “acknowledging” Jessica for over 30 years, Matt.

I just want to say “Thank you for this honor.” I shall cherish it always.

Also, Jane Fonda and Ellen Burstyn should’ve been on the poll.

Where is La Zadora, bitches?

I voted Jessica Lange who has a certain charm and realness. I actually find Meryl to be kind of robotic or overly studied/obvious.

Lol at that Julia Roberts wasn't even included in the poll.

I would rank based on whether I would watch:

1. Meryl and Kate 2. Cate 3. Nicole 4. Viola 5. Don’t care

Actually I would watch Nicole over Cate. I like Cate but sometimes she is off. Nicole won me over with Big Little Lies.

Nicole is crazy but I have to watch her. Not everything but most of her shit.

R51 The Life of David Gale and Finding Neverland are terrible. What the fuck are you on?

[quote] [R51] The Life of David Gale and Finding Neverland are terrible.

That is exactly what r51 said.

Shouldn't the question by who is the worst?

I can name 500 better actresses than those listed.

[quote] Titanic... Girls went to see it repeatedly because they identified with Winslet

My distinct memory of the time was standing in line at a check-out behind 3 school-age girls who were perusing the tabloids. "Eeeww, Kate Win-SLUT. How can Leo possibly be dating that cow. She's so ugly, she must have fucked the director to get the part". More likely that Titanic fan-girls returned because DiCaprio got them all wet.

R69 I'm sorry, Big Little Lies was terrible, both seasons. Dern's antics being the only redeeming elements. The script, all the male parts, Kidman & Witherspoon, so hackneyed and predictable. HBO then follows up with an even worse Kidman-Kelly production, the Undoing, and now there's yet another on the way? American viewing audiences can use the pandemic as an excuse for lazily consuming some of this - but really their taste is all in their ass.

R72 That was supposed to be a question. Those movies aren't terrible.

Julianne Moore from this list, though Sissy Spacek is my personal favorite. Wonderful, inventive actress with a terrific filmography (Badlands, 3 Women, Carrie, Coal Miner’s Daughter, The Straight Story, and In the Bedroom just to name a few) and a beautifully expressive face.

I like Julianne Moore, but she's cheapened her brand by refusing to say "no" to every script waved in her face. For every Short Cuts, The Hours, or Children of Men, there's a Body of Evidence, The Ladies Man, or Evolution. She even won her Oscar for a fundamentally shitty movie that was only made watchable by her performance.

From your list: Julianne Moore

In General: The one and only Vanessa Redgrave

Kristen Johnston

Glenn Close. Seriously.

[quote]I like Julianne Moore, but she's cheapened her brand by refusing to say "no" to every script waved in her face.

Oh, I agree. Definitely. Hate that.

Jess Lange just grips her neck and talks with a quiver that gives vulnerability to her toughness. Meryl can do so much more. And is a lot better looking. Lange looks harsh.

R83 That’s late-career AHS Jess and not even, lol. Constance, Sister Jude, Fiona, and Elsa all had varied physical language. She’s not Nicole Kidman, who just sighs and looks constipated.

Streep also has her tics - fidgeting with her nose, ears, and lips; darting her eyes, etc. - which I also love.

Lange could not have done Sophie’s Choice, Into the Woods, or Florence Foster Jenkins, just like Streep would not have pulled off Frances, Sweet Dreams, or Blue Sky. This is why I love them: nobody but the other can top them.

What about Ali McGraw?...

Phoebe Cates never gets the respect she deserves.

The Life of David Gale is horrible. It has a 19% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

A lot of the responses come down to personal preference. But let’s look at the facts:

Meryl Streep: 3 Oscars (2 BA, 1 BSA), 3 Emmys, 8 Golden Globes (+1 Cecil B DeMille Award), 2 SAGs, 2 BAFTAs

Jessica Lange: 2 Oscars (1 BA, 1 BSA), 3 Emmys, 1 Tony, 5 Golden Globes, 1 SAG

Viola Davis: 1 Oscar, 1 Emmy, 2 Tonys, 1 Golden Globe, 5 SAGs, 1 BAFTA

Julianne More: 1 Oscar, 2 Emmys (1 Daytime, 1 Primetime), 2 Golden Globes, 2 SAGs, 1 BAFTA (1 GG honoring entire cast of Short Cuts not counted)

Kate Winslet: 1 Grammy, 1 Oscar, 1 Emmy, 4 Golden Globes, 3 SAGS, 3 BAFTAs

Cate Blanchett: 2 Oscars (1 BA, 1 BSA), 3 Golden Globes, 2 SAGS, 3 BAFTAs

Kristin Davis: 1 Emmy NOMINATION, 1 Golden Globe NOMINATION (2 SAGs honoring entire cast of SATC not counted)

I think the facts speak for themselves: Kristin Davis is in a league of her own!

I would consider Lesley Manville also. But I don't know, let's ask F. Murray Abraham.

I actually think Julianne Moore is awful half the time. So miscast in that recent woman in the window. Someone with her name recognition didn’t even need to be cast in that mess. Perfect part for a talented character actress. Rudin is an idiot with his over adoration of “stars.”

Julianne Moore’s Woman in the Window performance was basically a caricature of her Maps to the Stars character

Tilda Swinton or Frances McDormand.

[THREAD CLOSED]

R88 You bitch. You left out Nicole Kidman, lol. I WWed you anyway because you highlighted who and what matters…

R88 Julianne’s also won best actress at Cannes

and Venice Best Actress

Datalounge polls are easily manipulated by fans refreshing the page and repeatedly voting for their fave.

Cate.

Cate Blanchett

The weird looking Scottish one.

Sorry I forgot to include Nicole!

Nicole Kidman: 1 Oscar (BA), 1 Emmy, 4 Golden Globes, 1 BAFTA, and 1 SAG (does not include Emmy or Golden Globe for producing Big Little Lies)

If it matters, Meryl and Julianne are the only 2 who’ve won Best Actress at Cannes...an honor they share with such film legends as Kirsten Dunst, Diane Krueger, Björk, and 2-time winner Barbara Hershey (I’m being a little bitchy, but unlike Kristin Davis, Hershey has an Emmy and Golden Globe, and she’s been nominated for an Oscar and BAFTA)

Streisand, Streep, MacLaine, Fonda, Keaton and Julie Andrews are the only recent female winners of the AFI Life Achievement Award for contributions to film.

I think I would go with Judy Davis.

My Brilliant Career... A Passage to India... Winter of Our Dreams... High Tide... Impromptu... Husbands and Wives... Me and My Shadow... Serving in Silence... The Reagans... A Little Thing Called Murder... The New Age... The Ref...

I just don;t think there's another actress who has knocked it out of the park so many times.

If there was ever the perfect time to drop in Ms. Vance.

It's like a child murder thread sans Patsy.

With the exception of Kristin Davis, every woman mentioned in these last 103 threads are the greatest. For me, there are too many excellent choices to pick THE greatest. Favorites on the other hand, are another story.

Pamelyn Ferdin

Further research indicates Frances McDormand should’ve been one of the original options.

Frances McDormand: 3 Oscars (BA), 1 Emmy, 1 Tony, 1 Golden Globe, 2 BAFTAs, and 3 SAGS (she also has an Oscar, Emmy, Golden Globe, and BAFTA for producing various projects)

R88 You are too cute, boo, lol. :kiss:

I knew she had 3 Oscars and an Emmy, but seeing her stats compared to others, I think she should’ve been one of the first 3 actresses named. I’m also forced to question why people overestimate the brilliance of Julianne Moore, Nicole Kidman, and Cate Blanchett.

Don't forget me!

Tieni il mio caffè, mentre guardo questa lista...

R108 Cate is better than the other two you mentioned and fully deserves her spot on this list. There’s a reason she is the third Best Supporting Actress winner in history, after Streep and Lange, to win Best Actress. (I can’t defend Zellweger’s ascension to this level, especially when considering Judy Davis’ unparalleled work as Garland.)

Cate has the goods.

R99 Do you mean Rose Leslie when talking about a Scottish actress with a "weird face" ?

R18- You mean the only living LESBIAN.

r61 you have no idea what you are talking about, clueless bitch. Julia Roberts' supporting turn in Normal Heart trumps everything Meryl did in her entire career. There, I said it.

r88 Where is Julia Roberts in your list ?

Renée

R61, Julia Roberts was embarrassing in The Normal Heart. I actually watched it with a smirk during her scenes. She can't act to save her life.

Is the very sexual Viola going to demand to be cast in the Basic Instinct reboot? She can channel all her suffering into her performance and go all Method by walking around naked all the time.

r117 = Sandra Bullock, multiple time Razzie winner.

Gillian Anderson

R87 And 81% rating from fans. Which makes it great.

R113 This is one of the dumbest comebacks I've ever seen. Firstly, she's not a lesbian since she is married to one of the Coen brothers. And even if she was, how would that change anything that OP said, that she is the only living actress with three Best Actress Oscars?

You are stupid.

This poll is sponsored by Arizona’s Cyber Ninja’s. There is no way Jessica Lange (Feud, American Horror Story, The Politician) is considered by the public to be the greatest living actress. It was more fun when Kate was the leader.

OP, you're a real cunt.

Miss Jodie Foster!

Jodie was on-track to be one of the greatest actresses of all time, but by the late 90s she was like, "Meh, I'm good."

Hell, she even failed to live up to the promise shown in her directorial debut, Little Man Tate.

Sigourney Weaver, Holly Hunter.

Does Mrs Fisk still count?

I thought you liked ME?!!

R115 Julia Roberts is a popcorn actress.

Jennifer Lawrence needs to make a comeback.

Fiona Shaw. Not even a contest.

It amazes me how persistent you are, R123. Your posting history reads like the demented, hate-filled writings of an obsessed stalker. I picture you looking and acting like Buffalo Bill, struggling to get your look just right, as you stare at marred photographs of Lange in her youth on your walls, whispering with seething fury, “I’ll show you sexy, breathy, horny, you ugly, talentless BITCH!”

Alas, when it dawns on you that your look isn’t so much perfected as defective, you go into a blind rage, ripping her pictures before making your way down to the basement toward your latest victim, assuring yourself, “It puts the lotion in the basket or gets the hose today!”

My god, Matt, don’t you [italic]ever[/italic] [bold]stop[/bold]?

That reminds me, Sigourney should have been on this list. So fucking underrated.

I love Sigourney Weaver, but her track record isn’t great:

Sigourney Weaver: 2 Golden Globes, 1 BAFTA

It honestly seems like she’s actively disliked by her peers. Sigourney won several awards for Best Supporting Actress in 1988, yet she lost the Oscar to Genes Davis, who wasn’t even nominated for a Golden Globe (there’s a possibility she and Michelle Pfeifer split votes that year). Then in 1999, she was nominated for several awards for The Ice Storm, and even won a BAFTA, yet she wasn’t even nominated for an Oscar.

Curses!!! Where is Tilda?`

When did Mirren fall out of favor? She's magnificent.

Kate Winslet and I hope she wins another oscar someday.

I hope Kate hits the stage and gets a Tony before collecting more Oscars.

What a weird win for Jodie Foster this year at The Golden Globes. Did that movie ever come out?

You're right R137! I don't know why she just didn't do the last two seasons of The Crown. Oh well, I love Imelda Staunton too but thought Mirren closing it out was a the logical conclusion.

[quote] I don't know why she just didn't do the last two seasons of The Crown.

Was she asked to?

r130 You are a certified nutbag. A popcorn actress who won an Oscar and nominated for multiple Oscars across several decades ? Sign me up for that.

Face it, Julia has had arguably greatest career in Hollywood for an actress.

^ Julia is one-note. Anytime she plays a character who isn't brassy with a horsey grin, she bombs. Have you seen Hook or Mary Reilly or Michael Collins or Ben is Back? She is awful!

Next season of the Crown was supposed to be the last, and Imelda Staunton was due to be the last one to play Elizabeth II. It wasn’t until Season 4 had concluded that a Peter Morgan felt a sixth season is necessary. And the intent is to ask the actors to carry on the tradition of doing 2 seasons in their roles.

So, no, I doubt Helen was asked to do The Crown. If anything, the last episode of The Crown will neatly segue into Morgan’s The Queen.

Helen Mirren

Anjelica Huston

THE GRIFTERS, THE DEAD,BUFFALO 66, ENEMIES A LOVE STORY, THE WITCHES, THE ADDAMS FAMILY,AGNES BROWN, CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS

^ PRIZZI'S HONOR

cate eats the rest of that list, she's on another level.

Ruth Wilson

Kathy Bates

[quote] Next season of the Crown was supposed to be the last, and Imelda Staunton was due to be the last one to play Elizabeth II. It wasn’t until Season 4 had concluded that a Peter Morgan felt a sixth season is necessary.

You've got it backward. Originally, there were going to be six seasons, but now, next season will be the last. Morgan says that's becus

[quote] Next season of the Crown was supposed to be the last, and Imelda Staunton was due to be the last one to play Elizabeth II. It wasn’t until Season 4 had concluded that a Peter Morgan felt a sixth season is necessary.

You've got it backward. Originally, six seasons were planned; now, next season will be the last. Morgan or whoever says that's because he realized season 5 would take the show to a perfect stopping point, but I suspect maybe he'd also prefer to avoid sticking his fingers into the current BRF mess.

^ Okay, not sure how that happened!

Have you FAGS NEVER HEARD OF ME ?

^^Susan SaRand...oh never mind

Autocorrect was funnier .

[quote] What a weird win for Jodie Foster this year at The Golden Globes.

not to mention her acceptance speech from bed.

So sad that Glenn Close is barely revered in this thread. I've lost all hope for her.

Allison Sweeney.

Kim Catrall

None on your list OP.

The current best actress is Frances Mc Dorman

R159 Who the hell is Frances Mc Dorman?

I do love Judy Davis - was she too plain to have a leading lady career?

Fred Dorman's sister.

Tits McGee

[quote]Originally, six seasons were planned; now, next season will be the last. Morgan or whoever says that's because he realized season 5 would take the show to a perfect stopping point,

No, he changed his mind again. It’s back to six seasons.

Yes! R129. Please forgive us for dissing the wonderful Sally Field.

OP should clarify "current" : Currently the greatest, or currently an actress who is the greatest?

My Japanese friend would say "Tatum O'Neal" and bow his head. I would say "But she really hasn't done anything in years". My Japanese friend would say, "yes, but she is alive. just as Bob Dylan is also alive". And he would be right.

[quote] I think I would go with Judy Davis.

You failed to mention Clifford Odets Rocket to the Moon. a performance to inspire unrestrained awe.

R161 No - she was difficult to work with. She's had a great career despite being a first rate cunt.

Great actress - horrible person.

Lange and Streep split the eldergay vote, which allowed Kate Whatshername to take the lead.

Blanchett is the greatest movie star on that list. If you've ever seen her on stage, it's as if she's arrived from some distant mystical plane to grace us mere mortals with her golden presence. She glows, and is every inch the star. I don't think I've ever seen another actress like her.

But the greatest actress on that list is Kate Winslet. I watched the second episode of Mare of Easttown a few days ago, and while she's effortlessly brilliant in all of it her acting in the scene with Drew's paediatrician is absolutely fucking phenomenal.

I'd also add Toni Collette, Lesley Manville, and Olivia Colman to the list. Colman, in particular, can do anything and make it look as easy as breathing.

Julia Roberts

^ We've already decided that Julia Roberts is one of the worst.

This sums it up.

^ What does that sum up? The Oscars are not a barometer for quality, neither is a writer for Variety.

I'd like to add these two to the list: Miss Jean Smart and Miss Regina King.

Did you even read it? Those are commonly considered the best actors and performances, at least for movies.

The Variety article at R173 was very lame, trotting out the most obvious names.

Glenda Jackson, still working at 85, and giving great performances.

r177 Yeah and notice most of those mentioned happened to be recently nominated actors. As if actors and Oscars didn't exist before 1990s. Exposes the author's knowledge

Whoopi Goldberg spoke a bit about how it felt being nominated. I wish the clip was longer; it seemed she had more to say about it to Oprah. She did say, however, that so many people thought she just might win (for Color Purple), and she implied that she began to believe it, too.

Judy Davis

Emily Watson

I enjoy Emily Watson, but what exactly has she done that makes her stand out as a great actress? All her characters tend to be meek and rather joyless.

Is Kristen Davis the new Vivian Vance? She’s appeared in several DL polls recently.

Kristin Davis is completely worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as Meryl Streep, Helen Mirren, and Kate Winslet.

They are all actresses between the age of 40 -75, who have appeared in films and television programs.

I recently saw an old Interview magazine with Meryl on the cover. She looked stunning, like a great beauty, which she really is not. She is chameleon-like and has skills the others really can’t approach. Her director in Sophie’s Choice said she was speaking perfect German, but with a Polish accent. In my opinion, she wins...

Kate Winslet could play nail all the Meryl Streep's roles/characters. Meryl Streep couldn't do the same when it comes to Winslet's roles.

Winslet is overrated and one-note.

Isn't Winslet know for her bad body odour?

SJP would die of jealousy and rage if Kristin Davis did somehow manage to get nominated for an Oscar. Her pet gays will then be tasked with talking shit about Davis just like they were told to do about Cattrall.

R187 Never seen a single Kate Winslet movie.

R188 No

Got to say Winslet is unusually "brave" when it comes to her physical appearance in the HBO Mare series. Lots of less than flattering close-ups, some almost uncomfortable to watch. Can't see any of the other names on the list paring things down as far. Cate Blanchett might give it a try, hindered by her natural glamour.

It would be interesting, perhaps funny, to see Kate Winslet perform Madeline Ashton’s opening number...

Thanks for giving me that visual, R193. I actually pictured all the nominees listed in OPs post doing that number, and I think Kate is one of the few who could pull it off.

Even though Jessica Lange has done comedies, she doesn’t really let loose and have fun in her roles.

Diane Keaton

Well, it's no longer Tawny Kitaen.

The last time Jessica Lange had a hit film was? She would have been forgotten had Ryan Murphy not hired her. No one remembers her movies.

R197, Wrong! Her work in Frances continues to inspire young actors. Tootsie was voted the second greatest comedy ever by AFI.

R198, Tootsie was released nearly 40 years ago. Should Dinah Manoff be in the running for greatest living actress for appearing in Grease and Ordinary People?

R199, that's an idiotic attempt at a comparison. Neither of those films were dependent on Manoff's performances, while both of Lange's films were dependent on hers and she was Oscar nominated for both.

Even if she won an Oscar for Tootsie, the role was rather forgettable. Actually, regardless of who won, many people consider Teri Garr’s performance more memorable.

R201, she was singled out for acclaim by virtually EVERY reviewers and won a number of awards besides the Oscar. Garr was fine in the film, but it wouldn't have become a classic without a jaw-droppingly beautiful actress of Lange's caliber as Julie.

Oscar Queens

Fact: Jessica Lange gave one of the best performances of the year in 1982 in Frances, but the Oscar for Best Actress was going to go to Meryl Streep for Sophie’s Choice. Giving her the BSA Oscar was a way of giving her an official consolation prize.

Lange was never jaw-droppingly beautiful.

R170 Queerty agrees..

[quote]Of the younger generations, does any actress show more promise to follow in the steps of Meryl Streep, Viola Davis & Glenn Close as the Greatest Actress Alive than Kate Winslet? Ever-versatile and fearless, the woman continues to give one great performance after another, regardless of the material she has to work with.

[Quote] Ever-versatile and fearless,

They forget shameless.

R198 Don’t feed Matt, dear. He’s so retarded and blinded by his rabidly envious hatred for Lange that he fails to realize AHS has made Lange’s younger fans review her film work, cementing their love for her even more. They’re constantly bringing up her past roles on social media.

And, of course, Meryl still loves her and brings her up in interviews.

R204, Queerty is owned by creepy old white men and operated by ugly young white guys. Their opinions means nada.

If they review her film work, they will be sorely disappointed since her films are terrible. Her work in The Politician sums up her bad acting.

R210, zzzz. Check out her '80s and '90s work. She is the best.

I’ve seen it. It’s not good. I give her credit for Tootsie and All That Jazz, but her presence was minimal.

You're obviously lying. Her work in Frances was one of the greatest performances of all time. Her work in Country was naturalistic in a time when that wasn't in vogue. Her turn as Patsy Cline was a star performance that was stunning, Pauline Kael touted her for Best Actress for the NY Film Critics. She scored six Oscar noms and countless other honors. You're an idiot by any standard.

R211 Why are you bothering with [italic]it[/italic]? Along with Lange, It trashes Glenn, Sigourney, and a few other icons. Just block it and check its demented posting history. I will give it credit for defending Streep but, then again, she’s probably its favorite and her love for Lange only compounds its hatred for her.

Lange has received enough love, praise, and accolades from all quarters and generations to cover a few lifetimes. What I love most about Magisterial Lange is that she doesn’t give two fucks about any of it. She’s never been that hungry. The worship and adoration has come effortlessly to her.

The true titans of thespianism. My Yin and Yang:

Beverly D'Angelo was the better Patsy Cline.

Jessica Lange is the greatest. No One disagrees

Then why has she been reduced to Ryan Murphy schlock?

No one thinks this! You Jessica fans are too much. She barely works because no one wants her (except Ryan Murphy for his campy TV projects). Thanks for the laughs.

It's not schlock. She's been gifted with a role that has been tailored to her skills. Her work as Crawford was sublime. No one else would have performed as well. Idiot.

R215 Reduced? He begged her and then centered the series on her, making casting (Sarah Paulson and Kathy Bates) and location (New Orleans) decisions based on her specific requests. He also allowed her to have input in the creation of her roles while paying her top dollar to play them.

Also, she had just separated from Sam and was looking to get her mind off of their failed partnership after having had her passion for acting reignited the previous year with her Emmy winning work in smash hit “Grey Gardens,” which garnered 17 Emmy nominations, winning the top five prizes, including Best Miniseries.

Then why did she leave? Because she knows the series is SCHLOCK!

She's spoken about how she doesn't enjoy acting and wants to move in a different direction. She enjoys working on photography, not working in the horror genre . Are you retared?

Her performace in Sweet Dreams is one of the all-time greats. It will be apprecaited by future audiences.

R218 Quentin Tarantino wanted her (and loves her) for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, but she slipped through his fingers when there were scheduling conflicts and she chose to honor her commitment to Murphy. Another actress would’ve been like, “Girl, BYE!”

Also, R221, she left because she had had enough.

[quote] Unless you’re Meryl Streep or Julianne Moore, it’s a rough business for movie actresses older than, say, 28.

[quote]I don’t really know if I’m writing the kind of roles that Meryl Streep and Julianne Moore would play. Jessica Lange on American Horror Story is a little bit more my cup of tea.

Lange did what all the great dames - Davis, Crawford, De Havilland, Page, et al. - had done before her and delved courageously into the oft-feared horror genre and did so marvelously, winning every award under the sun for her work and becoming a pop culture icon in her mid-60s.

Everyone was watching AHS for Lange, who garnered the series its highest ratings to date.

[Quote] she left because she had had enough.

Much like the audience for AHS.

R225 You’re right - [italic]once[/italic] Lange left, so did they.

R305 Yes she was - and she was a great actress from the start, too. Booze, cigarettes, and her propensity for deglamorizing herself are what muted her beauty. Her charisma, however, has rarely been matched and never diluted.

Lange is NOT a boozer, you idiot

R227 Lange herself will admit to dancing with the dark temptress that is alcohol, lol. She also suffers from depression.

Frankly, I think it all adds to her mystique.

R228, this is a lie

R199 and don't forget Manoff was great in 'Child's Play'

R229 I’ll dig up the interview for you.

Her brutal honesty is also something I love and admire about her.

Lange admits her mistakes in interviews. This is something few other actresses do.

Why are you characterising alcohol as a temptress? Are you implying that Lange has sapphic tendencies?

I've seen Lange at parties and she held a full glass of nice in her hands the entire time

R233 How do I know if she has sapphic tendencies? Perhaps she does, which would add even more to her mystique.

Why, is there a problem with being bisexual or a lesbian?

I honestly don't think we have a best actress currently. Thinking back, Julia played Julia, Meryl played Meryl, Frances played Frances, quite frankly. This thread made me ponder who was the best actress ever, though.

Larry.

I really dug Lange's performance in Rob Roy - she was as awesome as peak Brando. I don't know about the movie on the whole - but the pairing of Lange and Neeson, uh like Celtic gods they were.

R234 Did you mean 'ice'?

Why isn’t Sarah Jessica Parker on this list? She has many movies since the 80s and the SATC series broke all barriers for women. She’s my vote!

Viola or Meryl in a tie for number one. And Ms. Lange is up there.....

Another write-in vote for Olivia Colman.

I am, darling.

R243 - I love you Meryl! And I can rewatch you in “Postcards from the Edge” a hundred times and never tire!

My favorite performance of Jessica Lange's is How to Beat the High Cost of Living. It's her most natural acting and she's never been more likable in a role. Her other performances, except for Tootsie, are too mannered and Tennessee Williams-ish.

Even King Kong got tired of her mannered acting and nearly threw her into the volcano.

julia roberts

WTF IS GOING ON HERE???? IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE SOME WHITE POPULARITY CONTEST? WHY AREN'T THERE MORE AFRICAN AMERICAN ACTRESSES ON THIS LIST?? I AM SO SICK OF THIS RACIST SHIT.

PS - My husband and kids are ALL 100% heterosexual.

Julia Roberts is a terrible actress. As for AA actresses, I'd add Viola and Octvaia, otherwise they haven't had many opps.

R248, Viola and Octavia are drunks too?

I'm in my 40s, and I honestly had never even heard of Jessica Lange. I only know about her from reading on here that Meryl Streep thinks she's a great actress.

R250, it’s not wise to brag about cultural illiteracy on Datalounge.

Jessica Lange is a goddess. Please educate yourself.

Take her in like a well-greased, long, thick cock, R250.

Be sure to read the comments section for this one.

#langeloon

R256 Considering how much you post and comment about her, you must be referring to yourself, dear.

As this thread proves, there's a reason Nicole Kidman has been banished to television.

You are the one posting the same gifs and videos on her in hundreds of threads. I am always happy to call you out. Does she pay your membership fee to incessantly repeat your adoring fan posts and constantly promote her?

R251 No I don't. That was a script somebody gave me to read. I've only met the woman once and barely know her.

R259 All one has to do is take a gander at your posting history to see how obsessed you are with trashing Lange. It borders on pathological at this point.

And just to fuck with you, I’ll post Streep fangirling over Lange again, though I’ll limit it to her on-camera adoration. God knows I’ll be here all night of include her mentions of Lange in print.

Now stew in your own vile juices…

A little over six months ago. It seems like Streep is a “#langeloon” too, lol.

Let’s mention some more Lange loons while we’re at it.

What a sexy loon.

Hunky loon.

[quote] Your posting history reads like…

R133, you must be another Inspector Javert

Madonna, another loon. For real, though, lol.

Shirley MacLaine on Lange:

[quote] Off set, Jessica was sweet, a pro, not social, beautiful, intense, and a brilliant dramatic actress. I liked her a lot and assured her she would be funny. We had many conversations about the men in our lives, which will certainly not be shared here.

[quote]I don’t have any idea what happened with Jessica that particular day. What concerned me was what effect the disruption would have on Jessica’s performance. We had a dramatic scene to play in the hot sun, a scene in which she was supposed to cry. We absolutely had to get the scene within the hour or we would fall behind and there was no money to cover a reshoot. Jessica pulled herself together. Andy yelled, “Action.” Without a moment to prepare and with a jittery crew looking on, Jessica was brilliant in the scene and cried exactly on cue. I couldn’t believe it. “Cut!” I said, “Jessica, you are good, good, good. How did you do that?” “I guess I have a well of sorrow in my life,” she answered with a little smile. I thought of Misha Baryshnikov and Sam Shepard, but I didn’t ask one single question. I knew I was in the presence of a great actor.

Patti Smith, another loon, wrote the introduction to Ms. Lange’s first book of photography.

Another loon.

What a loon!

Patti fangirling.

What a loon!

Another loon.

I haven’t even scratched the surface of Icon’s fans, Matt.

Please do sit down.

I'm writing in Amy Adams and there's nothing you can do about it.

Could Meryl do Kate's role in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind? I think not

Freak. How many times have you posted these same gifs and videos? Every time you are challenged for being the Lange Loon you post more of the same.

R281 Not nearly as many times as your stunted, retarded ass has felt the need to repeat the same old tired disparaging remarks about Lange in thread after thread. Admit it, Matt, you’re obsessed with her, and you’re not even a fan of her work. How pathetic you and your life must be, lol.

We’re talking current ability and output? Saoirse Ronan hands down.

That short perm (r277) that took hold of women from the mid 1970s to, what, the early 1990s? Dreadful!

Billie Bird

Why the fuck am I not on your list, OP, you miserable cunt?

This poll has been humiliating for Nicole Kidman. She's in last place, getting fewer votes than Kristen Davis.

If this had been the old DL Kristin Davis would be winning this by a landslide. Too many frauen have invaded DL now and are voting for the predictable, dull, frau favorite Streep.

I've never heard of Kristin Davis. Just checked her out on the internet and turns out she is one of the stars of Sex and the City so that explains that.

Judi Dench is up there with the very greatest, I think. Her Queen Victoria in Mrs Brown was an amazing perfomance, capturing that wildness that comes with intense grief. She was a little too old for the role, but I don’t think anyone else could have added so many colours to that performance: entitledness, haughtiness , grief, insecurity, and rage.

I also like the fact that she doesn’t take herself too seriously and does any role that interests her, sonshe’s as likely to appear in James Bond as in Shakespeare.

[Quote] I also like the fact that she doesn’t take herself too seriously and does any role that interests her, sonshe’s as likely to appear in James Bond as in Shakespeare.

That's called being British.

Probably Maggie Smith or Glenda Jackson or Eileen Atkins.

I'd agree about Judi Dench. I saw Emma Thompson today and thought she's believable and versatile too. I can't come up with any actress or actor who is both believable and versatile really.I know the ones I enjoy watching but I don't know who is great.

Emma Thompson is a self important woke twat. Very typical of the 'do as I say not what I do' type.

OP IS TRANSPHOBIC!!!!!!!!

Where is Laverne Cox, Where is Billy Porter, Where is Chaz Bono, Where is Elliot Paige, Where is Demi Lovato?????

I self identify as a them/they/WTF and their ain’t one example of this type of actress in the list. When will MY people get their turn in the sun???????????

[quote] If it weren't for the fact that she's long since transitioned to hag, I'd vote for Judy Davis.

After reading this again I'm apologizing for the unkind comment. I'd vote for Judy Davis.

R296, you misspelling of my given name is one of the million ways in which I suffer on a daily basis. It's spelled V-i-o-l-a, not J-u-d-y. Why do you want me to cry again?

Viola and Judy Davis are both great actresses.

Viola appears to be a decent person.

Judy is a known cunt.

Is Judy a bigger cunt than the cuntiest Miss Davis known to man, R298?

One occasion where Judy Davis' cuntiness was justified was when the drunk fool Jack Palance read out the names of the nominees for Supporting Actress and then proceeded to say that for the first time ever in Academy history, all five nominees were foreign. He then added that four of them were English (he was referring to Joan Plowright, Miranda Richardson, Vanessa Redgrave and Judy Davis) and the fifth was a foreigner from a place called Brooklyn (Marisa Tomei).

The Australian Davis was seen rolling her eyes at being lumped together with the English actresses by the ignorant American.

Dame Angela.

R300 Rolling her eyes was one amongst a series of grimaces, and mutterings to her companion. But cunt or no, overall she seemed to take the nationality slur, the loss - and even Palance flubbing her first name - pretty good naturedly. Miranda Richardson appeared to be the cunt, but was probably just nervous as hell.

Jessica Lange is so great, she bottomed out for two decades before Ryan Murphy threw her a bone. And can you really make a convincing case for either oscar being well deserved?

Streep is the definition of white privilege. Everything post 2007 is going to age like shit. Forty oscar nominations, and 90% of them for mediocrity. Maybe McDormand tying Hepburn will light a fire under her ass.

Glenda Jackson, Maggie Smith, Debra Winger, Annette Bening, Anjelica Huston , Jane Fonda, Diane Keaton, Kathy Bates, Faye Dunaway, Laurie Metcalf, Jean Smart are all, BRILLIANT.

While I agree Streep needs to up her game, she does have films in recent years that I would recommend:

Doubt (2008)

Julie & Julia (2009)

Fantastic Mr. Fox (2009)

It’s Complicated (2009)

The Homesman (2014)

Florence Foster Jenkins (2016)

The Post (2017)

Little Women (2019)

Let Them All Talk (2020)

Honestly, considering their statuses in the industry, their countless professional and general public admirers, and all that they have overcome and achieved, denigrating Streep and Lange not only seems inane, it also indicates a bad case of sour grapes.

...or politics...

Alfre Woodard can play anything. She's about as well rounded and versatile as you get! No one mentioned her or Vanessa Redgrave (Judy Dench, though? Really?!). Why? That's all I want to know, why? They've done nothing to harm any of you and yet there you all are.

My dismay notwithstanding I voted for Jessica Lange. I prefer her overall approach to drama. It's raw and feral and real to me. Her characterization of Mary Tyrone in "Long Days Journey Into Night" slayed me, it resonated with me for a good two days afterward.

Kristen Davis? OP? Why that? Vivian Vance is normally used as a placeholder in polls here from what I've observed.

R307, Kristen is the new Vivian.

[quote]Where is Demi Lovato?????

Demi can't be considered an actress, because they is not a woman.

R304 Streeps scenery chewing performance in August: Osage County ruined any claim she has on best actress.

Did it? She seems to be doing fine.

R310 Bitch, please. Streep came back with a subtly stunning performance in “Let Them All Talk,” which has been totally underrated and for which she should’ve been nominated.

Shelley Long should be on this list.

Then so should Kirstie Alley.

R314, no, Kirstie Alley hates America. She HATES it. She's a huge Tr*mp supporter which negates any acting ability she might possess.

R313, Thank you for your input, Miss Long.

Um...hello? Haven't you people seen my sublime performances in a hit television series called "Suits"??? And if that isn't enough proof, you should have seen me in one of Oprah Winfrey's latest productions. I really excelled there.

It would be too vulgar to sign this post with my title, so I'll use the name I'm known in the industry.

J’ACCUSE, R317 - You are an IMPOSTER!!! There is no way the real Duchess of Sussex, Baroness Killkeel, would ever be caught using that common Markle name ever again, and it is LITERAL VIOLENCE that you have put such words in her mouth. Why, you may drive the poor dear to another of her states of deep despondency.

To be fair to you, you are right to suggest she is a great actress though: she put on a wonderful performance for a few months when she convinced millions here in the UK that she was a nice, likeable person!

Isabelle Adjani

Saoirse……RONAN. /endthread

[quote] Could Meryl do Kate's role in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?

Sure she could. Millions could. A loud, wacky, depressed bitch ain’t difficult to portray.