If you could buy a pied-à-terre in any European city, where would it be?

Ermmm....if it CANNOT be in NEITHER London or Paris, I choose London.

Barcelona for the endless supply of Spanish pinga.

[quote]The catch is it can't be in neither London nor Paris.

Can it be a place where they speak English better than you?

What’s DL’s obsession with the word pied-à-terre? Think you’re fancy gurl? 🙄

Tuscany or somewhere Mediterranean.

It wouldn't be a city--it would be in the countryside, especially along the Eastern coast of Ireland or the Northern coast of France.

Berlin. The sex clubs there are off the chain.

Zermatt

Edinburg or Bayreuth.

Lake Como.

Not a city, but the Silver Coast in Portugal

Glasgow.

[quote] speak English better

Shouldn’t it be ‘speak better English’?

Monte Carlo.

I have a pied-a-terre in the Montmartre section of Paris, 18th arrondissement. If I'd known it wasn't allowed, I would have bought one in London. Oh wait...

Yes R13!! In Monaco!!!

Rome

Barcelona....

Berlin. A summer place on one of the lakes.

Munich or Berlin

In Rome on via Margutta where Fellini and Giulietta lived.

Milan... it’s not the most beautiful city, but the food is amazing, the people are sophisticated & gorgeous, and you’re only an hour from Lake Como and a little more than two hours from Portofino.

Taormina.

Madrid (looking now for one)

Rome would the the other top choice

People—a pied à terre is by definition in a big city. The countryside demands a villa.

Amalfi Coast, Italy.

Barcelona, Spain

Must have LARGE TERRACE and patio.

Edinburgh, if we're talking big city. Cambridge, if smaller is viable.

pied à terre can be in town. a compact town with no villas

Gstaad - I’d be the trashy tourist who refuses to leave.

Vaduz - I’d be the trashy tourist pissing away money in front of penny pinchers.

Think of all the beautiful foreskin and black pubes that would be outside your window in Madrid or Barcelona.

Maybe Scotland.

Hmmm, possibly Heidelberg, as long as it was in the Old Town.

Monaco is an ugly, overcrowded nightmare of skyscrapers. You will hardly find a pied a Terre there. A lot of Monegass people own a villa on the country side in France for that reason. They only spend their time in Monaco for tax reasons.

Monaco literally is a small rock at the Mediterranean coast line. Cannes, Antibes, Nice are much nicer, even Nice is surrounded by also ugly suburbs.

Rome. As I am a devout Catholic and think Italian men are the sexiest in Europe.

r31. Heidelberg downtown is mostly tourists. The region around, the Rhine Neckar region, is highly industrialized. It is mostly nowadays an industry without smoke and dirt, but most Americans still got an naiv idea of how crowded Germany is and how narrow everything is.

Munich may be a good choice, if you like the Alpes, the lakes and the possibility to drive to Northern Italy in around 3-4 hours. For the same reasons Innsbruck, Meran, all places on Lake Constance.

If you prefer a more northern scenery Hamburg, Riga, Copenhagen and Stockholm.

Berlin

R34, I lived and studied in Germany for a while, and I fell in love with Heidelberg, even with the tourists. I never found the crowds too difficult to deal with as the infrastructure is so good, so you can escape rather quickly whenever you want.

If I was looking for another German option, I’d possibly opt for Luneburg, although I am not sure if it is actually big enough to be a city.

If I couldn't live in Berlin for some reason and had to pick another German city, I'd choose Potsdam.

Lisbon!

Sydney, Australia. Or Beach city in Thailand.

Australia is in Europe.

Copenhagen.

So is Thailand, R41!

Antarctica

Amsterdam

Amalfi Coast, Italy.

Sitges. It’s perfectly located just an hour train ride south of Barcelona and very gay friendly.

R46 Problem is, moving there would seem so Vidal-ish.

Haarlem

Madrid. Definitely.

Amsterdam or Edinburgh.

Nice or Amsterdam.

A quieter spot in Venice.

Yes, they do exist.

Florence, Italy.

The correct answer is Barcelona.

Definitely in the Iberian peninsula - Porto, Madrid or Barcelona.

In the past I might have said Nice - but it's been ruined since they have cheap flights from the UK, I don't say this in a snobbish way, but it's been overwhelmed. Sad.

But I'd still like to find a nice spot in the South Of France. Californie, in the hills above Cannes maybe.

Nobody chose Prague, I'm surprised. But it would be Edinburgh for me.

Prague, because this video must be accurate as to the type of fine young gentlemen that one would meet there.

Prague, for reasons.

No one for Venice? Perhaps too overrun with tourists for any sort of reasonable existence.

I don't know about a pied-à-terre, but I would love une maison de luxe avec vue above Villefranche-sur-Mer.

Amsterdam. Lived there for a year and will always love it. But full time is too much.

Barcelona is a stunning place, but it has been eaten by tourists, sadly.

Strasbourg or Antwerp

Delft was really pretty. I could be happy there.

Berlin or Amsterdam

Vilna

I'm surprised more people don't go for more warm beachy places - maybe you have that already where you are - us Brits (us gurls) go for sun and beach.

[quote]No one for Venice? Perhaps too overrun with tourists for any sort of reasonable existence

Mentioned at R53 at least. I thought of it but then thought no, better a place to visit than to own. A friend had a house there for years but sold it and now visits twice a year. That may be the better model for Venice: having a few favorite hotels and apartments to rent.

The same might apply for Amsterdam and Berlin.

Wow. American even took "Pieds à terre" from the French.

What's this fascisnation for the french language?

Nice or Cannes in France or Normandy or Alsace in France

R71, it’s klassier than “The studio I hole up in until my visa expires.”

A lot of languages lift "pied-à-terre" directly, R71.

Would you prefer "bolthole" from the British?

Take it up with William the Conqueror, r71.

Anghiari. Toscana - relatively inexpensive and lots of hill towns nearby. This is where people from the big cities of Italy have quiet get aways. Lots of easy day trips and great reasonably priced food and drink everywhere.

R8. I go to the Bayreuth festival every 2 years. I’ve come to dread my stay in the city, especially when there’s a Ring involved, which means at least 5 nights in town. Bayreuth is an insignificant, provincial, dull as fuck little town which happens to host, by a stroke of luck, the most prestigious opera festival in the world. Once you’re out of the festspielhaus, there is absolutely nothing to do there. When I think that Wagner also considered Munich to build his theatre, I despair. Munich is awesome and filled with tasty german cocks!

Valencia (Spain) as it is not too big so perfect to walk around, the beach is easy to get to from the city. The light gives everything an amazing contrast, which leads to the architecture of the old narrow streets with the doors so high you can ride your horse through them to the modern architecture of Museu de les Ciències Príncipe Felipe and L'Oceanogràfic. The nightlife is whatever you want it to be, from the gaudy Pacha to the historic Calle de Caballeros and all of it's trendy bars frequented by artists and the hipster types.

R73 In French it doesn't mean that at all. A pied à terre is rather something stable. Like a second home.

R74 "A lot of languages" ? Haha, okay which ones ? It still French and I have never seen or heard other languages ​​use pied-à-terre. No please not bolthole.

What's wrong with a bolt-hole? To bolt means to escape, to run away, so a bolt-hole is a not a place to store a bolt but somewhere to escape to.

Using pied-à-terre is just contrived Norman style use of the French when there is no need to do so, like cul-de-sac, deja Vu, à la carte, agent provocateur, au fait, avant-garde, beef, bete noire, bon appétit, carte blanche, de facto, de rigueur, double entendre, enfant terrible, en masse, fait accompli, faux pax, femme fatale, joie de vivre, lamb, laissez faire, nom de plume, objet d’art, pork, piece de résistance, raison d’être, rendezvous, savoir-faire, tête-à-tête, tour de force, vis-à-vis and goodness knows what else as that was just off the top of my head, I might as well say I speak French!

pied-à-terre means "foot on the ground" somewhere as opposed to a full-time home.

In London whenever you see a place described thus you know it means SMALL.

just as "garden apartment" mean basement flat

What about your garçonnière (love nest) in your own city - for assignations with your lover at a polite distance from your home and husband/partner? These should be near the central station, or in the bohemian quarter, comme il faut.

Istanbul, Turkey as it looks fabulous.

R38, I had a place in Potsdam for years. It was great. Close enough to Berlin that I could do to the theater, but I didn't have to live there. Wonderful parks, easy to get around. It was lovely.

For the person who asked why nobody is mention warm, beachy places. I now own a place in Ahrenshoop on the Baltic Sea.

Oslo, Copenhagen or Lisbon.

Madrid

The men are insanely beautiful and cocks constantly erect due to the heat.

Bend over in the street any will get goosed.

I'll go anywhere they don't spit on Americans.

Geneva. It’s pretty, small, and low key.

[quote] Nice or Amsterdam.

Oh deer, that makes no sense. I think you mean “Amsterdam is nice,” or maybe “someplace nice or Amsterdam.”

Menton, France

Malaga

Perpignan

Valencia

Porto

Toulon

Genoa

Trieste

Dubrovnik

Thessaloniki

Heraklion

Prague or Copenhagen.

The imaginary town of Vigata in Sicily.

(It looks beautiful).

[quote]It wouldn't be a city--it would be in the countryside, especially along the Eastern coast of Ireland or the Northern coast of France.

I'd choose western Ireland or the Highlands, but since I've been told I *have* to select a city, I'd go for Glasgow or Dubrovnik

R93 The series is mainly shot in Modica and Ragusa Ibla, baroque towns in Sicily. And they are gorgeous.

Bump to see if R95 will finally appear.

R69 Americans don't go to Europe for the beaches except maybe for the Cyclades, Brits and northern Europeans are the ones who travel to Florida and California en masse every winter.

R69 Brits do not go to California. Hardly any Brits have been there

The Cotswolds for the countryside.

"Barthalona" for an urban scene.

R98 - “Brits dont go to California.”

You’re misinformed. Brits absolutely worship the Americana mystique, especially California and the “old west.” As a Los Angelino, I see them everywhere (they’re easy to spot with the awful teeth and splotchy skin tone.)

R98 Tell that to David Hockney. So much of his work is a celebration of Southern California.

Glasgow, Scotland.

Bari, Italy.

Belgrade, Yugoslavia.

Sofia, Bulgaria.

Lodz, Poland

[quote]You’re misinformed. Brits absolutely worship the Americana mystique, especially California and the “old west.” As a Los Angelino, I see them everywhere (they’re easy to spot with the awful teeth and splotchy skin tone.)

I'm sure you're a great beauty in comparison.

R103 - “I’m sure you’re a great beauty in comparison.”

I don’t like to brag but I’ve done professional modeling and even been paid to be in background on film sets. I’m lucky to be tall (6’2”) and have a fair complexion with impossibly thick chestnut colored hair.

[quote]I don’t like to brag but I’ve done professional modeling and even been paid to be in background on film sets. I’m lucky to be tall (6’2”) and have a fair complexion with impossibly thick chestnut colored hair.

yet

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[quote] So I know I’m a cliche, but I obsess over my diet (all natural and carb-free)[bold] because I don’t have much of a personality or social life.[/bold]

GTFO pied-à-terre troll!! The same poster who talked about his pied-à-terre in Hell’s Kitchen… right… freak!

Do you say "cannot be in neither" or "can be in neither" ?

"Neither London nor Paris may be the city in which the apartment is located."

You wouldn't say "may not be neither"... would you?

Or should the "neither" simply be omitted...?

Brita don’t go to California, maybe a handful do but it’s too far. Most Brits have NYC, Vegas and Florida on their America radar. Nothing else.

R108 You all must live in some different universe. The "migration" of Brits to California (more specifically, Southern California) is a pattern at least a century old. For fuck's sake, there are British pubs. Not just in the movie industry (thought that's traditionally attracted a lot of Brits too).

I think what you must mean is a quick holiday trip to sand, ocean and sun. No, you're right. CA is too far. That's to Marbella et. al.

The French, on the other hand, tend more to go to NorCal. Californians, is this true? There are rich Europeans who have foot on the ground in SF.. Pacific Heights, Marina.

Rome. My favourite city. I’ve been many times, and I always find something new.

Can we shift just a bit from dreaming to practicality?

Of all these places -- and most would do, frankly -- which would work out best in terms of cost, visa and other practicalities?

Looked into it once for Berlin a few years ago and as I recall the mandatory health insurance was the killer in terms of cost. But not too difficult for Americans to get the paperwork to stay a long spell

Lisbon or Porto.

R109 Most of the French people go to NY not California. They don't care about the Cali beaches when they already have gorgeous beaches at home. The French Riviera, for example, has absolutely nothing to envy to California. And for Surfing they have the west coasts in France. French people benefit from mountains, countryside, coast, sea and ocean and towns a thousand times more beautiful which date back to the Roman Empire. When they go to the United States it is specifically for professional opportunities.

Kyoto or Tokyo.

The French aren't as enamoured with America as the British is because of the language.

One of the reasons Brits love the USA for a visit so much is because they can totally absorb the culture - watch TV, go to the movies...be understood everywhere.

R1 - I will take Paris.

Edinburgh would be my choice as a city, but would be keen to have a home in Zermatt, a resort town near the base of the Matterhorn. I've lived in both for extended periods.

Somewhere in New Zealand. Or Sydney in Autralia.

Another vote for Copenhagen. Edinburgh, Biarritz, Florence, Rome, Bristol, Prague, Budapest and Ljubljana are all places I'd consider, were money no object of course.

[quote] I have a pied-a-terre in the Montmartre section of Paris, 18th arrondissement. If I'd known it wasn't allowed, I would have bought one in London. Oh wait...

Oh, get a whiff of Miss Jeffrey Bezos!

Athens in Greece or Iceland for the aurora borealis

[quote]Of all these places...which would work out best in terms of cost, visa and other practicalities?

[quote]Looked into it once for Berlin a few years ago and as I recall the mandatory health insurance was the killer in terms of cost. But not too difficult for Americans to get the paperwork to stay a long spell

Many European countries have long-term visas for people who are financially self-sufficient and who can cover themselves via private healthcare insurance during their stay. These visas require evidence of cash in hand or a demonstrated income stream sufficient to not pose a threat to imposing on social services of the country you visit, and usually require that you are not employed in that country, i.e., you don't compete with national and EU citizens for employment. (Employment visas, student visas, investment visas are different beasts.)

The cost for private insurance varies by country . The article at link suggests €400-700 a month for adults in Germany; in Spain you can get excellent private insurance that covers absolutely all of every cost in the €200s to around €600s/month for older people with existing conditions at the more expensive insurers. In any case, it's much cheaper than having to provide one's own private insurance in the U.S. (insurance that will never cover 100%).

R71 There's a lot of French in English. Always has been.

R123 True, since William the Conqueror. There is more than 35% of french words in English language.

R80 most of the words you quote come from modern French and not Normand. This means that Americans are really, really in love with French expressions and appropriate them but unfortunately they sometimes change the meaning of French words. Which is typically Americans : Take what is not theirs and do something else with it.

Le Car

^^ oops sorry, FOX! didn't notice til after I'd posted it.

Lisboa

I wonder why don't they take from Spanish words? Which would be more logical since their neighbors (South Americans) speak Spanish, not French.

Amsterdam, cause I’m into Dutch dick, it’s the best

R129 Tell me more. Never tried a Dutch dick.

R128, because the perception is French is highbow, while Spanish is not.

R121 Even the Greeks don't want to live in Athens, it's a hellhole and a dump.

I wouldn't say here, because then others will flock to my discovered little village in Italy that is a dream come true, and off the beaten path.

Zermatt is very peace fun and safe thought the summer climbing and winter sports keep it economically busy and healthy. It's dry up there, and usually sunny and never all that hot.

try again: Zermatt is very peaceful and safe, though the summer climbing and winter sports trade keep it economically busy and healthy. It's dry up there, and usually sunny and never all that hot. Not much for culture and its 3 long hours from Geneva. Its a place to zone out and do healthy activities. It's not all that Jetset, being more sporty.

R125 That's exciting news to me. I loved the LeCar wanted to get an R5 Turbo, but Renault couldn't sell it in the U.S.

Montreal or Quebec City.

R137 - I didn't know those were European cities!

Porto, Portugal would be on my list.

San Sebastian. Culture, food, beautiful, unique people (Basques), setting... big enough to be cosmopolitan, but small enough you can walk to most of what's interesting in the city.

OKay OP, when do i win my pied a terre?

I already did in Lecce, Puglia in Italy in 1998.

Not exactly a Pied-a-terre though, it has 3 bedrooms (used to be 5), 4 bathrooms a huge kitchen, 2 lounges, a garden and 3 roof terraces.

It cost less than a car. I don't rent it out, too much hassle.

Aix, France.

Like R142, I don't bother renting the modest hunting Schloss (17 rooms and outbuildings) that I inherited from my mother's side. It's in Neuberg an der Mürz, Styria, and as I neither like Austrian villagers nor hunting, I rarely visit. But alas I must keep it in the family so can't sell.

The whole point of this is a place you periodically visit. You’re not emigrating; you’re stopping in for a week or three at different times of the year while smuggling diamonds, CPU chips, and designer drug assays up your butt.

Which city is the LEAST likely to be hit by a terrorist attack (e.g. bombings, knife attacks, acid attacks, car mow-downs, etc.) AND has good food that are widely spread throughout / nearby residential areas and easily walkable? It must meet both criteria for it to be a good place to buy property...

Locarno or Lugano R146

R146, Glasgow is a decent bet. There was one attempted (rather comedic) terrorist attack, which was thwarted because of a roundabout and the lack of a measuring tape.

[quote] I wonder why don't they take from Spanish words?

They do.

R107, you got it right the first time. “It can be in neither London nor Paris” is grammatical.

“It can’t be in either London or Paris” works, too, I guess, but in that case I’d just skip “either” and go with “it can’t be in London or Paris.”

Without question Madrid. Before London or Paris. It's my favorite city in the world. Love everything about it.

Never liked Madrid. But then again, I don't like Spain.

I liked London the most when I did the EURO train thing all over Europe. But that might partly be due to the fact it was a relief to speak English. And it's changed so much in the 30 years since. Where hasn't?

[quote]Which city is the LEAST likely to be hit by a terrorist attack (e.g. bombings, knife attacks, acid attacks, car mow-downs, etc.) AND has good food that are widely spread throughout / nearby residential areas and easily walkable? It must meet both criteria for it to be a good place to buy property...

Why so frightened by the threat of terrorism in European cities? It exists, and is rightly a concern for police and national security investigations to curb the risk, but it's hardly an everyday thing.

For some reason people in the U.S. sometimes have the idea idea that Europe is a kettle of bombings and knifings (and bad food served by surly waiters) yet it was the U.S. that had 434 mass shootings in 2019

There was the Paris attack in 2015, then it's back to 2004 and 1998 for two of the largest modern events, the Madrid train bombing and the Lockerbie bombing.

[quote]Brita don’t go to California

I won't R108, I'm the queen of NYC

Either Budapest, Palermo or Copenhagen, depending on what stage of life I was at and how cold it was where I was living most of the time.

Though if you limit it to my current situation, then probably Amsterdam, just because it's so easy to get everywhere from there.

San Sebastian is cute!

Good for you, R142. A quick look at things in the center and I see lots of properties that indulge my love of groin vaulting. This one was the cheapest, at €51K, a handsome space, even with the crazy narrow room. Make sure the furniture goes away and make a few minor/cosmetic changes and it's a beautiful small space. Small houses with the same vaulting start at €90k.

R149 Ok, which spanish words American are using daily as much as french words ?

Spic and Span?

R146 Lol! Like America is safe??? Lol mass murders, guns everywhere, with the highest rape and murder rate in the Western world.

The safest (desirable) city from terrorist attacks would most likely be Salzburg.

R158: I'm not r149, but here's a sample.

Next door to Clooney, Lake Como.

If I were a Trump, the coast of Montenegro.

Barcelona, Berlin and Cologne for endless hot cock!

R153 Interesting that your table doesn't include attack on the UK by The Provisional IRA, they averaged one a month for 27 years. It was an intrinsic part of my childhood and early adulthood.

More people died in UK terror attacks between 1970 and 1997 than were killed in The World Trade Center ( under3,000).

Over 3,400 Men, Women and Children were killed in that 27 year period and thousands of others maimed. It's not always the dramatic displays of aggression that cause the most harm

Interesting angle on "least terrorist possibility" as a criterion of choice. About 20 years ago my older brother bought in to a hotel in 'Quebec City - where he had a suite of rooms. His thinking was the world was going to fall apart - crime, violence, chaos - and Quebec was where he and his wife were going to go to escape and survive.

20 years later - civilization is still "intact", I think he's a little disappointed.

Moscow

R165: If you find that interesting, imagine my disappointment that it didn't reflect the massacre of 100,000 German peasants by the aristocracy In 1525, by an aristocrats who sought to privitize land from irksome peasants would would cut wood and hunt and fish.

The table I linked to looks at important singular incidents since 1980, sorry if I overlooked the Provisional IRA or your childhood, but my point was about the undue fear of Americans that Europe is a hotbed of terrorism and danger and pretty American teenagers stolen from Parisian hotels by Albanian human traffickers who sell them to Arab sheikhs.

The Wiki page on Terrorism shows 1514 deaths between 1980-1997; instead it shows 3417 people killed for the 40 year period between 1980 and 2020 — incorporating figures stemming from IRA terrorism but also other sources farther afield.

But we both digress. In any fucking case, who's the nutter bringing up fears of terrorist attack the criterion for "good food that are widely spread throughout / nearby residential areas and easily walkable? It must meet both criteria for it to be a good place to buy property..."?

Lisbon of course.

[quote] [R69] Brits do not go to California. Hardly any Brits have been there

Hahahahaha!

I've heard such good things about Portugal that I might consider that since an easy flight from the US. I also think a romantic place in Italy sounds wonderful. Nothing would beat London or Paris because I know I can find a reason to visit every single year, multiple times if needed.

I'd let a house boy or fling stay in teh place and watch over things. No use keeping a good place empty.

For Portugal, if you spend €500,000 on property you are granted a residence visa renewable every 2 years provided you spend 2 weeks very two years in Portugal. At the five year point you can apply for citizenship.

The program was due to be reworked with a higher threshold of investment and the restriction that the money must be spent outside Porto and Lisbon, with benefits tightened somewhat, but it was extended until the end of 2021 due to Covid.

The Portuguese living in the big cities speak English, so Anglophones can get on real well in places like Porto, Coimbra, Braga, and Lisbon.

Amsterdam

If not London, which I still aspire to have, I would say Sitges. It's 30 minutes from Barcelona airport on train and it's beautiful. The UK and it's people are my first love, but Spain is a close second. I haven't been to Mallorca, but I heard Cameron Douglas talk about his family's home there, I saw some photos, and I fell in love.

How is Michael Douglas so rich? Did he get percentage of gross from his films or something?

Nice would be nice...

R176, Michael Douglas produced/exec produced One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, The China Syndrome, Romancing the Stone, Jewel of the Nile, Starman, Face/Off, etc. So he made a fortune out of those blockbuster hits.

R175 Sites is actually a good call. It is beautiful. Very gay and fresh holiday cock every week.

R179 I think "fresh" is likely wishful thinking for random dick picked up at Sites.

Over 60 who is trolling for fresh cock everyday?

DLers R181

Because they all look 45

Madrid

There is no Spanish city named Sites. R179 is excused but R180 repeating the typo?

R175: Thanks for the link to Michael Douglas' place in Mallorca. I'm usually prepared to hate celebrity houses but that one is fairly stunning in setting and architecture and arrangement of space — smartly keeping the main house relatively small and putting guests and other functions in cottages and other spaces of lower profile. The bath room with the colossal marble tub is a bit much, maybe, and some of the furnishings a little underwhelming (dining room chairs, the blue bolstered suite of furniture in the main living area, for example), but the whole thing is quite impressive, not least the setting.

R184 I am R180, and after a lifetime of pontificating pedantry, helping correct others errors, I deserve this. Sitges.

R175 I actually thought the weird blue furniture in the main living area was interesting. It seemed like something that wouldn't happen with some expected professional decorator. A casual mistake from "old money"...

R186: Agreed on the interesting part, the bolster backs of the sofas, especially. It's a grand gesture not seen much — in some of Alidad's work based in London, and one designer in Madrid who is very heavy with damask covered walls and this sort of sofa. Probably in a few Russian drawing rooms as well. The pale blue and gold and white scheme, though, was a little contrived for a Spanish house on the sea; it's not so much bad as too contrived, when the pleasure of Spanish houses is that they are organic and filled with all sorts. The rather imperial sofas and chairs en suite and the rugs and the curtains and the relentless color scheme, it's more Malibu that Mallorca, too all of a piece. There's much I really like about the design, but for me it falls short by way too fussy in the big living area (and those decorator chairs in the dining room/library.) The bathroom, though, is outstanding.

I am not telling any of you bitches they places I like because you will ruin them.

It's Marbella decor appearing in Mallorca but meant to impress the same jetty crowd.

One of the features I love about the Mallorca house is that they built the pool over the kitchen so that you can see into the pool while cooking. Especially for a second or in this case 3rd, 4th, or 5th home, you can have some fun. What I like is the stories surrounding Mallorca. The pied-à-terre doesn't need to be over they top like the Douglas home, but it would be wonderful to have a place for friends, family, and loved ones to gather someplace far away for the summers. Becoming a staple where you know everyone in the small town abroad.

the M.D house is very nice. I wonder why they are selling it?

R191. I wondered the same. He seems to have or to have had a lot of real estate (Mallorca, Montecito, Pacific Palisades, Roatan, Bermuda, Wales (2 it seems)... but I would be selling off and downsizing in other places before unloading this place.

And it looks like he had a change of heart and bought out his ex-wife's share of the property with the intention to hold onto it, per this year-old article.