So take a look at me

Was this before or after Dame Olivia de Havilland made her GRAND ENTRANCE?

After all this time, it's still terrible.

R1 How was that entrance meant to go?

I can't figure out which is more painful to watch! OP or R1 with de Havilland holding onto the walls so she didn't face plant and then standing there like an idiot.

These bloated, self-congratulatory, narcissistic award shows have got to go.

Entire OP video at link. Awful.

Did she actually sing that live?

You just know that everybody who watched the rehearsal knew it was going to be a shit show and stuck around to watch it unfold live.

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Well, I found it stunning. And I was pleased that footage of the performance found its way into every 'in memorium' reel I caught upon the occasion of her passin'.

I'm still in shock that she sang "against all THE odds" even in the prerecorded vocals.

This trade show takes itself awfully seriously.

No Oscar moment is more cringe than this one...

[quote] I can't figure out which is more painful to watch! OP or [R1] with de Havilland holding onto the walls so she didn't face plant and then standing there like an idiot.

Why can't we have the best of both worlds, R3. Have that elaborate dance routine performed by Dame Olivia.

Faye really fucked up. She’ll never be asked back.

[quote] Faye really fucked up. She’ll never be asked back.

She was back the next year as was Beatty.

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Phil Collins wanted to sing his song but was told no by the academy.

This is what we got instead. Truly a jump the shark moment, worse than Rob Lowe.

I guess I must not be gay, but I didn't see what the problem was.

Is that from the XXXTENTATION song?

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This was the greatest thing that ever happened.

Warren Beatty has dementia. It's not a secret. But they handed him the wrong card. It was Emma Stone's best actress win for La La Land! In his deteriorated confusion and lifelong habit of letting women suffer his stupidity - he handed the card over to Faye. Naturally they were both stressed in the moment. She read the only thing that was a FILM TITLE. LA LA LAND. It's a great fuck up, but Beatty is the one who was gone. He was supposed to read the winner. Faye can't expect to read a close card when she has only been programmed for the teleprompter? Warren of course is ageless and requires no corrective measures or lenses.🙄

Collins talking about Reinking:

"She murdered the song."

R20 here - here's the link that goes directly to the topic.

Legendarily bad. Wow.

Is the full version out there still??

It was not Miss Dunaway's fault. Stop blaming her. She was only reading what was given to her.

Just stop it. Stop it now.

It did at least allow the great DL joke:

Faye: And the winner is, La La Land! (Warren slaps her face) Moonlight! (slap) La La Land! (slap) Moonlight! (slap)

The dancing was good though.

I'm his Bonnie, he's my Clyde.

Fine. I found the whole thing on my own. Here it is.

It's only been posted in about 200 other threads R28. I've been coming to Datalounge since 2013 and this same stupid performance has been posted over and over. I don't even know the bitch. But my boyfriend is a dancer. Reinking wasn't even a great dancer.

[quote]But my boyfriend is a dancer. Reinking wasn't even a great dancer.

Oh, did your boyfriend, who is a dancer, opine on that? Bitch please.

My boyfriend has performed in Chicago and Fosse, so yeah. We've talked about her. He is classically trained. What does opine mean? Is that some old fag glory hole position?

Reinking wasn't a great dancer. She was a good kicker and with good hip action but above the waist, she was cement. Very poor flexibility and her arm movements were like a department store dummy.

Ann gives such a passionate performance.

I was touched by the overall presentation.

She sure was successful for such a terrible dancer, R29/R31. 🙄

R32 she was broad boned for a dancer, and I think that’s what is giving you that illusion - a willowy top half is always going to seem more flexible.

I think she was a pretty amazing dancer myself.

Post a great dancing performance from Reinking then R35. That's NOT from a Fosse movie or tribute. You've never seen her dance. And know nothing about it.

Reinking had broad shoulders, a short torso, thick waist and no neck. But long legs so that wasn't an illusion, she was poorly built for dancing but might have been great at Roller Derby.

Reinking was not "broad boned". She had very slender wrists, which disproves the suggestion. She was built like a moose so she danced like one.

Her kid had Marfans and she may have too.

She stole her performance from Lauren Bacall in The Fan. Lauren should have sued her bony ass.

But listen, everybody! R29's boyfriend is a dancer, and he's done Fosse shows! And HE said she's not a great dancer! What more do you possibly need?!

Suh tk a lk at mi nah! ... Cause there's just an empty space ...

I'm using my Ouija Board to see if I can make contact with Fosse and get his response to r29.

Bob? Bob, are you there?

To all you Ann defenders, consider this: Phil Collins thought she sucked donkey dick so we get to think so too.

Can't sing, can dance.

No one has ever proclaimed Reinking to be a great dancer. She was Fosse's last muse and she mentored as many people as she could. But Fosse is just a style of dance. Extremely specific and in many ways antithetical to a dancers training. Very difficult and sexy, specific. A bit too specific. A "great" dancer should be capable of so much more classical and difficult techniques. Even on Broadway. Jerome Robbins takes much more pure dance talent than Fosse. There is no helping the ignorant who saw All That Jazz and think that Reinking is some world class dancer. She was not. She's not even the best Fosse dancer.

Oh yeah, she sure had a thick waist 🙄

r47, right on cue. boring old dude saw a movie once.

The Ann hater in this thread must have been denied a part in Fosse. So bitter!!

R31's boyfriend is probably a replacement chorus boy in the mid-western leg of the Chicago tour.

If you block R29 simply for being a douchebag, amazingly 99% of the "Ann wasn't a great dancer" posts disappear!

R50 Who won’t even marry him!

My boyfriend is a classically trained and successful dancer. He is not limited to performing in Fosse shows. Your ignorance is astounding R49, R50, R51, R52. All the same poster. (with his usual multiple devices) A very sad old man. The eldest and craziest of the ancient white gays who post here. Blessings to you. We pray for your healing this night.

I don't know why he expects Ann to have a different style of dance when she was primarily a Fosse dancer, R51. I never claimed she was the best Fosse dancer, (Ben Vereen was, imo) I don't think anyone here has, but she was very good. To say otherwise sounds like pure jealousy.

Here's a great interview with Ann discussing her role in "Annie" and how the style of dance differed from what she was used to.

You're insane, R53. Does your "boyfriend" know you even exist??

R19: I’ve always hated Emma Stone since that night. She made a comment while being interviewed right after implying Warren Beaty and Faye Dunaway must be lying about the fuck up with the Best Film card as she was given the card with her name on after winning Best Actress. There was a real cuntiness to her tone as if to say ‘those old idiots’. If she had some class she’d have been nice about it or given them the benefit of the doubt.

I had a picnic at the Ann Reinking magnolia tree in Central Park recently.

We are praying for all of you, R50. And R49. R51. R52. R54. All the same person. My boyfriend believes in prayer. Though we both despise your poison on this site. There is only one insane person on this thread. YOU are a danger to intelligent men and clean hearts. May jesus visit healing to your troubled mind, tonight. This is our prayer.

^^ 😜🤪 ^^

The thing with the Oscars performance is that there’s a time when she stops singing and starts dancing to her own singing that was recorded. How could she not have heard how bad she sounded? I’m surprised she was able to focus on the dance but I guess she’s a pro!

No one thought better of Ann Reinking than Ann Reinking. Jeff Hyslop danced with her and hasn't much good to say. She was a great looking woman who fucked Fosse. That scene in the movie is for real. When he picks the chick with the long legs. Not the best dancer at all. Just so he can fuck her for a few months.

It's good to remember that schlock posted at R3 is when 35 million people used to tune into The Oscars.

That's REAL entertainment, folks.

That Moonlight/La La Land debacle...wow, what a fuck up. What happened was this. There were two people in charge of the fucking envelopes, a man and a woman. They were loving every minute of being the special people in charge of the Oscar envelopes. I think the woman was quite enjoying herself, but the guy was a real ham, basking in the attention. He had a crush on Emma S tone and was texting about her, which in all likelihood caused him to screw up and give the wrong envelope to Beatty and Dunaway. Beatty was such a dumb fuck; he obviously had the wrong envelope so why didn't he DO something? Why didn't he say "i think there's been a mistake" or "This isn't the right envelope" instead of just staring like an idiot? And of course Dunaway didn't even look closely at the envelope, she just blurted out "La La Land." And of course the people from La La Land were ecstatic to have won and gushed their thanks for winning the award...and it was all a total fuck up! What an unholy mess. I don't think the man and woman in charge of the envelopes got fired (they should have) but you won't be seeing them at the Academy Awards anymore. I guess not!

Warren might have dementia, but Fay is blind as a bat. She grabbed the card out of Warren's hand who KNEW something was amiss and read the first thing that she could read without consulting him first.

Emma wanted to make sure that she can't get dragged into this mess and pointed out that she held on to her winning results card. Turns out that there are two sets of cards (one for the left and one for the right side of the stage) and someone from the academy fucked up and gave Warren the wrong envelope.

R54 I’ve seen so many links here to that Bobby Wygant person - was she popular at the time amd on what channel did her show air? There’s something very annoying about her interviewing style.

On another note, how much did Ann freaking smoke? That’s the main reason she couldn’t sing.

R64 Bobby is funny. She really wound up Jill clayburgh in one of her interviews telling her something unsubstantiated about how critics didn’t like her work or something and Jill took her to task and was demanding to know names of said critics!

Salma Fantastic Rack Hayek was fucking Ed Norton?

Sure, Ann.

It wasn't Faye's fault. The stupid accountants who handle the envelopes were too busy mugging for selfies they gave out the wrong envelope.

This special she did with Hyslop really encompasses the good and bad of Reinking. Rechoreographed Music and the Mirror. Very powerful and exciting but no grace and elegance. Kicks that are great but also watch how weak she is on her right side. Simple shoulder shakes looks tight and her arms are stiff and lacking in musicality. Even doing a backbend, she she has no amplitude because of her thick torso.

She had something very singular to offer but her contemporaries like Bergman, Clark and Sousa were better dancers.

Was Annie a bible thumper. I saw in an interview in Arizona that she had a hard time leaving Florida because she loved her church so much.

What did she die of? I see endless mentions that she died in her sleep but no cause. The appearances she made in the year prior to her death make her look quite unwell.

She had a nice throaty speaking voice and great looks. I was surprised that she disappeared from the screen after Micki and Maude with Dudley Moore and Amy Irving.

Take a look at me now.

No I'd really rather not.

This will never not be funny.

They should have let her sing all the nominated songs that year… like they allowed Beyoncé to do.

He's ready. Cellblock Tango.

It’s too bad they never thought of casting her as Margaret White in the movie Carrie. That would’ve been a trip.

37 year old teenager Pat Benatar’s pimp is dancing with Ann!

Serious question. Did Fosse really think she was having an affair with Charles Ward? They tried to play it up in the media but it was so ridiculous.