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Horrific allegations in Josh Duggar child porn case: "Worst of the worst"

Josh Duggar will be released from jail as he awaits trial in his felony child pornography case.

The scandal-plagued former 19 Kids and Counting star, 33, faced Judge Christy Comstock in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Arkansas on Wednesday for a detention hearing. The father of six — appearing from the Washington County Detention Center and wearing his gray-striped jail-issued jumpsuit — was arrested on April 29 on charges of receiving and possessing material depicting the sexual abuse of children and faces up to 20 years in prison for each. He has pleaded not guilty.

While the judge granted Duggar's release, effective Thursday, she said, "I'm just going to remind you how serious these charges are." She noted the evidence against him that was presented was "significant." She said the nature of the crime "concerns the court." She said his past conduct — molesting five young girls, including some of his sisters, when he was a minor teen in 2002 and 2003 —was also of concern.

Comstock also made the point that the ages of some of the children in the pornography are"close to the ages of your children" — he shares six children, ages 11 and under, with pregnant wife Anna — as well as his younger siblings.However, while she said it was a "very close call" when it came to her decision, she was letting him out with many conditions.

Per those conditions, Josh will be in home confinement, but not at his own home, nor a guest house on the property of his parents, Michelle and Jim Bob Duggar. Instead, he'll be staying with friends of his parents — a pastor and his wife. There will be electric monitoring. He's restricted to the residence at all times — except work, church, doctor's appointments, meetings with his lawyer and court appearances. And he must not possess or view pornography of any kind. He is not to use any internet capable device.

The judge did decide he can have "unlimited" visitation with his children — as long as Anna is present at the time. Josh, who lives in Springdale, Ark., is not to see any other minor children, including siblings and nieces and nephews.

As of now, his jury trial is scheduled to begin July 6 with a pre-trial conference on July 1.

Many new details about Josh's arrest emerged during the hearing. Homeland Security Investigations Special Agent Gerald Faulkner, who raided Josh's used car lot where the computer was uncovered in November 2019, spoke about the dozens of images depicting nude minors and child sex abuse materials that were found on a hidden hard drive of Josh's work desktop after a forensic investigation.

Faulkner said two files initially triggered the investigation, which was first flagged by a Little Rock, Ark. police investigator in May 2019 and escalated to Homeland Security Investigations (HSI). One was a two-plus minute video of two nude, prepubescent girls engaged in sexual activity who were then sexually assaulted by an adult male. The second was a zip file of 65 images of a prepubescent female, between of age 7 and 9, nude and showing her private parts.

Faulkner wouldn't even read the names of the downloaded files, which were graphic and disturbing. He spoke about one series of videos discovered on the computer and said they are known as being “in the top five of the worst of the worst that I’ve ever had to examine.”

Prosecutors claim the illegal images show child pornography involving minors ranging from the age of 12 to as young as toddlers of 18 months.

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Faulkner testified that the images were exchanged via a peer-to-peer file sharing called BitTorrent. The forensic investigation also found a program on the desktop called Covenant Eyes, which allows a user to "quit porn" by reporting to an accountability partner — in this case wife Anna — if the user visits porn sites. To get around triggering a report, Josh allegedly installed a Linux partition, which divided the computer's hard drive into two isolated sections to hide what was being viewed in one of them. He also used a TOR browser to surf the dark web. The way he accessed that part of the computer was by inputting a special password — and the one used was one Josh often used for other accounts, including for personal banking, which included his birth year in the password.

It was also noted the screensaver on the desktop allegedly used to view child porn was a photo of Josh with Anna and their children.

A day before the hearing, Josh's attorneys filed legal documents requesting he be released on bail. They argued that he's known about the investigation since HSI raided his then-business in November 2019, at which time he fully complied with turning over computers and electronic devices. After that, Josh, who has no criminal convictions, made no attempt to flee the area or country. He was actually in touch with the U.S. Attorney’s Office in connection with the investigation, and the government permitted him to voluntarily self-surrender after charges were filed against him last week, "underscoring his commitment to meet these charges and to accept and abide by any conditions of release set by this Court."

Josh's legal team further noted that his reality stardom prevents him from being a flight risk, noting, "Duggar has a widely-recognizable face and has spent the majority of his life in the public spotlight — making any concern that he is a risk of flight all the more unwarranted. As he has demonstrated for the 17 months during which he has been aware of this investigation, there is no danger of Duggar fleeing.

by Anonymousreply 1May 6, 2021 12:51 AM

Wow, this guy is really fucked up.

Just looking at the evil grin on his face, you can tell that he gives ZERO fucks any more.

by Anonymousreply 2May 6, 2021 12:51 AM

Is this related to that busted network on the Dark Web from last week?

by Anonymousreply 3May 6, 2021 12:53 AM

No, R3.

Josh Duggar has been busted before on molestation charges.

These are new, and he's doing his own thing.

He's just a lone perv.

by Anonymousreply 4May 6, 2021 12:54 AM

I’m sure QAnon will be condemning him ASAP, as soon as they get done excoriating Matt Gaetz.

by Anonymousreply 5May 6, 2021 12:54 AM

Well he didn't use Wayfair armoires or harvested adrenochrome from children in Satanic rituals so he's A-OK in QAnon's book.

by Anonymousreply 6May 6, 2021 12:56 AM

WAIT----Serial Predator with new allegation and he is FREED?.....How is that possible?....Oh wait---he is WHITE...Never mind....Solved it....

by Anonymousreply 7May 6, 2021 12:58 AM

Judge = "Worst of the Worst. Now go home and get a nice hot meal and play with your kidsand stay out of trouble ".........WTF?

by Anonymousreply 8May 6, 2021 1:01 AM

[quote]According to Faulkner, when homeland security officials raided Duggar's car dealership and asked to speak with him, without informing him they were investigating child pornography, Duggar "spontaneously" responded, "What is this about? Has someone been downloading child pornography?"

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by Anonymousreply 9May 6, 2021 1:01 AM

Please pray for our brother.

by Anonymousreply 10May 6, 2021 1:07 AM

[quote] "What is this about? Has someone been downloading child pornography?"

Rofl. What a numbnuts.

by Anonymousreply 11May 6, 2021 1:16 AM

Well, that inbred fundie family is not exactly a tree of owls.

by Anonymousreply 12May 6, 2021 1:17 AM

I wonder what made him so fucked up?

I'm being serious.

Everyone else in that family seems relatively normal.

by Anonymousreply 13May 6, 2021 1:19 AM

I bet he had that vid Daisy’s Destruction.

by Anonymousreply 14May 6, 2021 1:26 AM

Frankly, I'm surprised someone that dumb would know how to install TOR and use it to surf the Dark Web.

by Anonymousreply 15May 6, 2021 1:27 AM

R8, he’s not a “lone perv” if he has child porn on his computer and had software that hid his computer activity.

Unless he was producing the images all by himself (photographing kids in person), he was procuring and sharing them from and with other scumbags. These guys have networks, duh.

by Anonymousreply 16May 6, 2021 1:28 AM

Absolute bullshit. He should fucking be locked up.

by Anonymousreply 17May 6, 2021 1:30 AM

Well you know what they say...the first pancake is always lumpy!

by Anonymousreply 18May 6, 2021 1:31 AM

I only skimmed the article but unless I'm wrong, he had 200+ images and 1 video. It doesn't seem that much..

by Anonymousreply 19May 6, 2021 1:31 AM

Speaking from experience, R19.? A single photo is one too many.

by Anonymousreply 20May 6, 2021 1:34 AM

[quote] unless I'm wrong, he had 200+ images and 1 video. It doesn't seem that much

Maybe it was about the images themselves.

Could have been some real fucked up shit.

I don't even want to imagine what he was looking at.

by Anonymousreply 21May 6, 2021 1:34 AM

^ I'm not defending him by any means but would you be ok if he was jailed for having 2 images?

by Anonymousreply 22May 6, 2021 1:40 AM

[quote] I only skimmed the article but unless I'm wrong, he had 200+ images and 1 video. It doesn't seem that much..

WTF is wrong with you? “Prosecutors claim the illegal images show child pornography involving minors ranging from the age of 12 to as young as toddlers of 18 months.”

by Anonymousreply 23May 6, 2021 1:42 AM

Possession of child pornography should not be a bailable offense.

by Anonymousreply 24May 6, 2021 1:43 AM

It’s all out of context, must be a mistake! He is a man of the lord! 🤡💒

by Anonymousreply 25May 6, 2021 1:44 AM

[quote] Everyone else in that family seems relatively normal.

You only get to see a sliver of what really goes on. This Josh stuff could be the tip of the iceberg. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the girls writes a book soon.

by Anonymousreply 26May 6, 2021 1:44 AM

WTF is with R19??

by Anonymousreply 27May 6, 2021 1:46 AM

[quote] Faulkner wouldn't even read the names of the downloaded files, which were graphic and disturbing. He spoke about one series of videos discovered on the computer and said they are known as being “in the top five of the worst of the worst that I’ve ever had to examine.”

Must be some pretty sick shit. He should be locked up.

by Anonymousreply 28May 6, 2021 1:46 AM

Do you HAVE to let people have a bail option?

by Anonymousreply 29May 6, 2021 1:47 AM

R29, no, there's something called "no bail," where you're held until resolution of your cases, whether it be dismissal or conviction.

In general, you're entitled to bail, though.

by Anonymousreply 30May 6, 2021 1:49 AM

Certainly didn't want to cause an uproar but wondering if there's a certain amount of images which will get you convicted.

by Anonymousreply 31May 6, 2021 1:51 AM

MAGAt judge

by Anonymousreply 32May 6, 2021 1:54 AM

It's Arkansas.

Probably takes a lot to shock the authorities there.

by Anonymousreply 33May 6, 2021 1:56 AM

Even more surprising is that it was a female judge who released him on bail.

by Anonymousreply 34May 6, 2021 2:04 AM

"If it pleases the court---my WHITE client would like to go home to spend time with his CHILDREN....What could go wrong?"----The Defense explaining Josh going home?

by Anonymousreply 35May 6, 2021 2:07 AM

Your tax dollars at work. His victims will sue and rightly claim a known predator was turned loose with very serious charges filed against him.

by Anonymousreply 36May 6, 2021 2:19 AM

So his dipshit simp of a wife who obviously knew he was viewing child porn and knows he has molested family members in the past and keeps breeding with him anyway is the safeguard against him molesting his own kids? Good job, judge. Good job.

by Anonymousreply 37May 6, 2021 2:19 AM

[quote]Josh's legal team further noted that his reality stardom prevents him from being a flight risk, noting, "Duggar has a widely-recognizable face and has spent the majority of his life in the public spotlight — making any concern that he is a risk of flight all the more unwarranted. As he has demonstrated for the 17 months during which he has been aware of this investigation, there is no danger of Duggar fleeing."

I wouldn't recognize this AWT if I tripped over him.

by Anonymousreply 38May 6, 2021 2:31 AM

Coming from a city with disastrous bail reform... the argument is that the accused is not the convicted and enjoys the presumption of innocence. And bail is about ensuring the accused will show up for their court date.

So unless there has been a grievously violent crime committed, the innocent accused doesn’t deserve to be jailed because they can’t make bail. Judges have zero discretion, and prior offenses cannot be considered. Here in NYC he’d be free without even posting bail.

by Anonymousreply 39May 6, 2021 2:32 AM

These people are so "pro-life", life begins @ conception!, how can he be alone with his pregnant wife? No under-18s.

by Anonymousreply 40May 6, 2021 2:34 AM

excuse me, I guess he is allowed to be with his own fetus, just no one else's.

by Anonymousreply 41May 6, 2021 2:35 AM

[quote]I wonder what made him so fucked up? I'm being serious. Everyone else in that family seems relatively normal.

R13. I don't know for sure, but it appears that Josh is the oldest of all the Duggar kids. So my question to you is: Do you think those parents are normal?

I'm not saying that the parents caused Josh to turn to child porn, but those parents are weird, creepy and strange. The Duggar parents had way too many kids to care, nurture, feed, clothe and love. One or more of the kids were bound to get fucked up somewhere along the line. Unfortunately for Josh, his fuck up manifested itself in the form of child porn. I wouldn't be surprised if another few of the kids have severe dysfunctional problems, maybe not child porn, but some deficiency in their personality. We all have faults, but 19 kids is way too many to have everyone relatively mentally healthy.

by Anonymousreply 42May 6, 2021 5:05 AM

He’s as guilty as a fat kid eating a donut on a diet ... I do feel sorry for his wife though. She will have to raise 6 kids on her own

by Anonymousreply 43May 6, 2021 5:25 AM

[quote]The Duggar parents had way too many kids to care, nurture, feed, clothe and love.

Quiverfull families are on a "buddy system" in which younger kids are assigned to older sisters for care. Mothers are finished when the baby is a few months old, by which time they're expected to be pregnant again, and the responsibility falls on the daughters.

The worst situation for a girl is to be followed by a series of boys. It wouldn't be out of the question to have a nine-year-old girl raising six or seven younger brothers while mommy lies in bed all day with the latest baby.

Of course, Apostolic and Traveler mothers leave those frumps in the dust when it comes to lying in bed with babies...

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by Anonymousreply 44May 6, 2021 7:03 AM

[quote] Faulkner testified that the images were exchanged via a peer-to-peer file sharing called BitTorrent. The forensic investigation also found a program on the desktop called Covenant Eyes, which allows a user to "quit porn" by reporting to an accountability partner — in this case wife Anna — if the user visits porn sites. To get around triggering a report, Josh allegedly installed a Linux partition, which divided the computer's hard drive into two isolated sections to hide what was being viewed in one of them. He also used a TOR browser to surf the dark web. The way he accessed that part of the computer was by inputting a special password — and the one used was one Josh often used for other accounts, including for personal banking, which included his birth year in the password.

This most certainly proves that a totally random homeless person used the computer. /s

by Anonymousreply 45May 6, 2021 7:07 AM

So, if you divorce your wife in Arkansas, is she still your sister?

by Anonymousreply 46May 6, 2021 7:35 AM

[quote]Certainly didn't want to cause an uproar but wondering if there's a certain amount of images which will get you convicted.

Is r19 frantically deleting files?

by Anonymousreply 47May 6, 2021 9:14 AM

I hope he kills himself.

by Anonymousreply 48May 6, 2021 9:18 AM

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by Anonymousreply 49May 6, 2021 9:39 AM

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by Anonymousreply 50May 6, 2021 9:39 AM

Well, he's a good Christian, he just lost his way through temptation from Satan. He is forgiven!

by Anonymousreply 51May 6, 2021 9:56 AM

Sorry for being dense, but didn't initial reports say that the Feds were able to find him thanks to his computer's IP address? How's that possible when he used TOR Browser which uses VPN by default (giving users a fake IP address)?

by Anonymousreply 52May 6, 2021 10:03 AM

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by Anonymousreply 53May 6, 2021 10:04 AM

[quote] The judge did decide he can have "unlimited" visitation with his children — as long as Anna is present at the time.

That pushover of a wife? She probably guards the door while Josh is spending special time with kids.

by Anonymousreply 54May 6, 2021 10:08 AM

r52 here. Sorry, missed the part that it was the peer to peer torrent download that apparently wasn't hidden via VPN. That's how they got him.

by Anonymousreply 55May 6, 2021 10:09 AM

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by Anonymousreply 56May 6, 2021 10:10 AM

The FBI has tools that we cannot imagine. Using Tor and a VPN no longer render one undetectable. If they want to find you, they will.

by Anonymousreply 57May 6, 2021 11:02 AM

Why is he grinning in his mugshot?

by Anonymousreply 58May 6, 2021 5:11 PM

Probably because he knows daddy Jim Boob will bribe the officials to let him out on bail and diddle his kids.

by Anonymousreply 59May 6, 2021 5:18 PM

I wonder how Arkansas inmates will view him?

Villain or hero?

by Anonymousreply 60May 6, 2021 7:57 PM

I don't think inmates like guys who are into little girls especially 18 month olds.

by Anonymousreply 61May 6, 2021 7:58 PM

The fact that the Judge let him out is sickening even on house arrest.

by Anonymousreply 62May 6, 2021 8:13 PM

Their Grandpa Duggar thought they had way too many kids. On the show he once said, "We only had two kids because that was all I could say grace over."

The shade.

by Anonymousreply 63May 6, 2021 8:22 PM

R44 I grew up in a large (7 kids) Catholic family, and while there was many bad things about that, it wasn't remotely like these Quiverfull freaks.

by Anonymousreply 64May 6, 2021 8:24 PM

i'm thinking the Judge only granted him bail in the hopes that he will fuck it up. I guess that's just wishful thinking.

by Anonymousreply 65May 6, 2021 8:57 PM

r64 what are the worst things about a family that large?

Where did you fall in the birth order?

by Anonymousreply 66May 6, 2021 8:59 PM

I could see him murdering his family and then killing himself

by Anonymousreply 67May 6, 2021 9:37 PM

Wow I didn’t know you could still find stuff like that on BitTorrent. I thought the non-dark web was basically scrubbed of that stuff.

by Anonymousreply 68May 6, 2021 10:26 PM

^meant to add,, r14, yes, that was one of the videos. Sounds like an urban legend, but it isn’t.

by Anonymousreply 69May 6, 2021 10:27 PM

So, this guy who is a known kiddie diddler and actively participated in child pron groups is being let out of jail on bail.

How exactly is he not a threat to the community?

smh - I find the double standard for this laughable.

by Anonymousreply 70May 6, 2021 10:34 PM

What is Daisy's Destruction, R14?

[quote] I could see him murdering his family and then killing himself

No way. He looked too smug in his booking photo.

I didn't get a sense of remorse.

by Anonymousreply 71May 7, 2021 1:23 AM

R71, you don't want to know. You really don't.

by Anonymousreply 72May 7, 2021 1:26 AM

Trash is as trash does.

by Anonymousreply 73May 7, 2021 1:31 AM

Still gets bail.

by Anonymousreply 74May 7, 2021 1:37 AM

If you really want to know...

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by Anonymousreply 75May 7, 2021 1:44 AM

R71 What r72 said. I was pretty fucked up after hearing the details, and I'm one of those weirdos who can hear the most horrific shit and it just rolls off my back. This was....not one of those times. Sexual acts combined with brutal violence, and that's all that's left that you need to know, since you already know the age of the victim.

by Anonymousreply 76May 7, 2021 1:45 AM

[quote] The judge did decide he can have "unlimited" visitation with his children — as long as Anna is present at the time.

This is what surprises me, most. Where I live, also in the South, people charged with similar crimes are granted, at best, limited visitation with their children supervised by a professional.

by Anonymousreply 77May 7, 2021 1:51 AM

Being released to stay with some "clean cut" Christian couple? Is this real life. This guys privilege is another realm.

by Anonymousreply 78May 7, 2021 1:54 AM

Yeah, R76, I am pretty hard core about things, too, for the most part, but that really is the worst thing I've read about in some time.

Duggar installed a Linux partition one day, and a day later he did a darkweb search for that exact file name. This was not a "mistake", this is a depraved creature, who should burn in the hellfire his ilk claims I'll end up in, for being gay.

by Anonymousreply 79May 7, 2021 1:55 AM

Everyone in this deplorable religious cult family should be spayed and neutered as a fucking public service.

by Anonymousreply 80May 7, 2021 1:56 AM

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

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by Anonymousreply 81May 7, 2021 2:03 AM

How do these people have a TV show? I mean, who's watching this shit?

by Anonymousreply 82May 7, 2021 2:05 AM

R81 Fair enough. Still though, we're right to be concerned about even the victims in this cult going on to reproduce and extend the insanity.

by Anonymousreply 83May 7, 2021 2:08 AM

The show is now called "Counting On," R82.

They tried to re-brand the "19 Kids and Counting" show, by focusing on the eldest daughters, their marriages, and their kids. The parents are now only in the background.

As for who watches this show, it's popular with Quiverfulls, MAGATS, Deplorables, QAnons, Doomsday Preppers, and religious nutjobs. Which makes up quite a large part of the American television audience.

by Anonymousreply 84May 7, 2021 2:08 AM

R84 Actually, I know a lot of people you would consider " MAGATS, Deplorables, QAnons, Doomsday Preppers, and religious nutjobs" who refuse to watch this show, because even they find it creepy.

by Anonymousreply 85May 7, 2021 2:13 AM

R66 I'm the sixth born and the youngest boy.

No privacy. I never had my own room were the worst things.

by Anonymousreply 86May 7, 2021 2:14 AM

There are good things too. My dad was in the military, so we moved around a lot. I never had to worry about making friends, because I had friends in my family.

No privacy is awful when you're a young gayling living on a military base with Republican parents.

by Anonymousreply 87May 7, 2021 2:17 AM

Sharing a bedroom is the worst. I come from a large (somewhat) family as well. Had to share a room with a sibling who was a slob. Sounds silly to complain, but some kids / people just need a room to be alone in.

by Anonymousreply 88May 7, 2021 2:38 AM

Ohhh, that Daily Mail article about Derek and Jill reminded me. Jill has a nose ring. You'd think that goes against all fundie logic. It's acceptable because... there's a myth/belief, maybe fact, that a nerve runs from that part of the nose to the pelvic area. The nose ring is to aid/assist with child birth. Something about the nerve running from the nose to the crotch. Like a ring finger to the heart.

by Anonymousreply 89May 7, 2021 3:39 AM

Incest, c porn and felony arrests are quite the wholesome feel good themes for their TV program!

by Anonymousreply 90May 7, 2021 3:47 AM

Someone should sit his wife down and read a description of that Daisy video to her.

She should know exactly what this sick fuck enjoys, so she can think about it while she looks at his asshole face.

I need a drink.

by Anonymousreply 91May 7, 2021 4:28 AM

Why doesn't he just off himself like the other pedos do. This sick fuck is so disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 92May 7, 2021 4:35 AM

A guy who grew up with the Duggars posted this statement on Reddit.

You might need to try the link twice, it sometimes opens greyed out. I found it very interesting.

He also participated in a question and answer forum also on Reddit, I'll post it next..

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by Anonymousreply 93May 7, 2021 5:54 AM

This is a thread where he answered questions from people. There are some fascinating insights in there.

He answers the questions with the screen name of Icy-Consideration716.

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by Anonymousreply 94May 7, 2021 5:57 AM

This is the interview the Duggar parents gave to Megan Kelly in 2015 when it came out that Josh had molested his sisters.

listen to them make excuses and minimize what he had one. Beginning at 18:00 in the video Michelle almost cries as she says how sorry Josh was for his actions. Bullshit!

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by Anonymousreply 95May 7, 2021 6:20 AM

this is fucking bullshit OMG WTF.

by Anonymousreply 96May 7, 2021 7:14 AM

I hope the good pastor and his wife show BillyBobWhatever where the razor blades and sharp knives are, maybe the rope, too.

by Anonymousreply 97May 7, 2021 7:15 AM

That first hand account at R93's reddit link, is amazing.

I'm still left wondering what he was implying when he told the story about Josh having to dig out a pond.

They shaved his head and punished him by making him dig a pond, but I wish the reddit guy had revealed what Josh did to deserve the punishment.

[quote] Jill has a nose ring. You'd think that goes against all fundie logic.

She also started drinking, which was forbidden in the Duggar family.

She posted a photo of it on her Instagram one day.

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by Anonymousreply 98May 7, 2021 8:27 AM

[quote]Duggar installed a Linux partition one day, and a day later he did a darkweb search for that exact file name. This was not a "mistake"

[quote]Someone should sit his wife down and read a description of that Daisy video to her.

Someone should sit U.S. District Judge Christy Comstock down and read a description of that video to her. She should seriously question her own judgement if she's willing to release a monster like Duggar. That "Daisy's Destruction" video is one of the most sickening things I've ever read about and it removes all doubt that snuff films exist. Pedo snuff films must be some of the most depraved products of humanity on the planet.

On another note, the prosecutor on the case is a married gay man, according to the linked Reddit thread.

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by Anonymousreply 99May 7, 2021 9:26 AM

Has he been eating the kids as well as ogling them?

by Anonymousreply 100May 7, 2021 9:34 AM

Is it just speculation that he'd downloaded Daisy's Destruction?

(I thought I knew about a lot of dark things, but I never knew about that video. And I could have happily lived the rest of my life not knowing.)

by Anonymousreply 101May 7, 2021 9:40 AM

This is Peter Scully, the monster who made the Daisy's Destruction video (mild description included at link). This is the scum whom Josh Duggar apparently idolizes.

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by Anonymousreply 102May 7, 2021 9:48 AM

There are even worse things out there than DD now. I've read about a Dark Web streaming sites that offer three tiers of service: You can watch streaming CP, including torture/snuff videos; if you pay more, you can watch the same being live streamed; and if you pay even more, you can send requests for what you want to see done during the live streams. Such sites change their locations frequently and are protected by corrupt government officials and the ultra-wealthy. I used to think such things were urban legends but I don't know what to believe anymore.

by Anonymousreply 103May 7, 2021 9:56 AM

Judge Cumsock has only had her new job title since May 3. Way to start it off, lady. 🙄

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by Anonymousreply 104May 7, 2021 10:06 AM

^ Correction: May 1

by Anonymousreply 105May 7, 2021 10:06 AM

It says he’ll be wearing an electronic device. So, instead of an ankle bracelet put a goddamn electric fence and something around his junk so every time he tries to leave he gets a nice shock. Fuck this inbred filth.

Has anyone here gotten creepy vibes from Jim Bob? Something about that guy really creeps me out. I wish he’d get busted for something because you know there are skeletons in his closet.

by Anonymousreply 106May 7, 2021 10:21 AM

Like father, like son.

by Anonymousreply 107May 7, 2021 10:23 AM

I believe all of it, R103.

by Anonymousreply 108May 7, 2021 10:25 AM

Me too, r108. If there is money to be made in something, no matter how horrific or depraved, there will be people willing to do what it takes to make that money.

by Anonymousreply 109May 7, 2021 11:01 AM

I'm floored by what I read at R102.

And make no mistake, both men AND women were involved in this Daisy's Destruction nightmare.

Unsurprisingly, it happened in the Philippines.

That Australian guy is unbelievably dark and twisted, to a level not imaginable by most humans.

by Anonymousreply 110May 7, 2021 3:34 PM

But I was molested myself! I'm a victim too!

by Anonymousreply 111May 7, 2021 4:02 PM

[quote] According to Faulkner, when homeland security officials raided Duggar's car dealership and asked to speak with him, without informing him they were investigating child pornography, Duggar "spontaneously" responded, "What is this about? Has someone been downloading child pornography?"

He's so unbelievably stupid that this doesn't even surprise me. This is a man who had an Ashley Madison account under his real name while working as a "family values" activist.

by Anonymousreply 112May 7, 2021 4:08 PM

Do the parents get to see what Josh had on his drive? I sure hope they have to.

by Anonymousreply 113May 7, 2021 4:22 PM

"Snuff films" were a favorite topic of urban legend in the days before home video, but it would have been an extremely risky and expensive process, because you'd need somebody with the right equipment and skills who'd be willing to develop the film and keep quiet about it. So you'd assume that someone who was willing to go to that much trouble to make one would have made sure that it remained private. Nowadays you have dumb fucks livestreaming their crimes without stopping to think about it.

by Anonymousreply 114May 7, 2021 4:33 PM

Average Joes and Janes need to wake up.

Excess is the lingua franca of the ultra-wealthy, safe on their yachts beyond any 3-mile limit and/or moored in ports controlled by criminals (including those in "government"), or ensconced on their private islands.

But we're not talking run of the mill excess, such as drinking, gambling, or eating too much. Not even drug use.

No, the world's wealthiest are also the world's most bored, because they value only money and what it can buy. When that includes everything, what's left?

Sexual depravity of de Sade levels, including---especially---children and infants of 3rd-world areas. Torture. Slavery. Human trafficking. Gun-running. Corruption. Blackmail. Extortion.

Murder. (Anybody think the young victims are going to be raised to attend college and become gainfully employed? Haha! They're far more likely to be thrown into the nearest ocean.)

by Anonymousreply 115May 7, 2021 5:23 PM

[quote] What's the point of power when you don't use it to commit heinous crimes and getting away with them?

by Anonymousreply 116May 7, 2021 5:28 PM

And that explains the men who kept the company of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

Oh, yes, Jeffrey helped their Foundations and Charities and Causes because..."Plausible Deniability." But Jeffrey's girls were like Charlie Manson's: visible, available, young. And numerous.

So let us not be naive, not even about famous men we hold dear.

by Anonymousreply 117May 7, 2021 5:30 PM

[quote]And make no mistake, both men AND women were involved in this Daisy's Destruction nightmare.

What a weird, related-to-nothing way to try to fit your misogyny into this thread.

You can't be named Jim Bob without being or fathering a child molester.

by Anonymousreply 118May 7, 2021 7:36 PM

[quote] What a weird, related-to-nothing way to try to fit your misogyny into this thread.

So you would like us to ignore the fact that some women were involved in finding these children for the molesters?

And the link at R102 added that females were physically abusing the victims, as well.

So go FUCK YOURSELF, you stupid cunt.

by Anonymousreply 119May 7, 2021 8:35 PM

When Josh is convicted, I don't think he's going to be breathing free air after that.

by Anonymousreply 120May 8, 2021 12:19 AM

I guess no one watched the video at R75?

Carme Ann Alvarez, who lured the girls to his house with promises of food and was involved in the videos is interviewed, as are the 12-year-old girl and Peter Scully.

His main accomplice, Liezyl Margallo, who "carried out some of the most brutal physical and sexual abuse on all the children in the Daisy videos," shows up when they're digging up the murdered girl's remains and answers a few questions, claiming that she now wants to help (now that she's facing life in prison, that is).

Asked if she wanted to help the girls at the time, her answer: "I wasn't around" when he murdered anyone. Okay, then. Not long after, she acquired a fake passport and went on the run while continuing to recruit children and run Scully’s business.

The detective they interviewed believed there was a video of the murder, as others had claimed to have seen it, but the police didn’t have it. Months after the 60 Minutes piece aired, a mysterious fire destroyed the evidence room.

by Anonymousreply 121May 8, 2021 12:21 AM

Thank you for pointing that out for R118 the man hater, R121.

Women are not ALWAYS the victim. Sometimes, they're just as bad as the men.

by Anonymousreply 122May 8, 2021 12:27 AM

R120 I doubt he will be breathing much air free or not. The one very redeeming feature of inmates is that they tend to make life for child molesters hell and hopefully short.

by Anonymousreply 123May 8, 2021 12:30 AM

Hopefully this smug POS will follow the steps of Mark Salling.

by Anonymousreply 124May 8, 2021 12:33 AM

I would just add to this thread that child molesters are rarely created out of a vacuum...molesters are more often than not (don't have percentages) at some point moles-tees. This in no way excuses what he has done and his viewing of child sexual and torture porn at all, I'm just saying: where there is smoke, there's fire.

by Anonymousreply 125May 8, 2021 1:01 AM

"Josh Duggar child porn case: All the restrictions he's under while out on bond"

Josh Duggar's child pornography case is expected to go to trial on July 6 in Fayetteville, Arkansas — so here's what will happen between now and then.

The 33-year-old former 19 Kids and Counting star, who pleaded not guilty to charges of receiving and possessing material depicting the sexual abuse of children, is officially out on bail, effective Thursday at 1:35 p.m. He ditched his gray striped jail-issued jumpsuit, which he wore for his detention hearing Wednesday, as he left the Washington County Detention Center with his attorney — taking no questions about the more than 200 images and videos depicting childhood sexual abuse found on his work desktop at his used car lot.

While Judge Christy Comstock made the point multiple times Wednesday that the charges against him are very serious — and noted that the approximate ages of the children in the material downloaded in May 2019 "are very close to the ages of your children," who range from age 11 to 18 months — she allowed him to be released on bail. It was a personal recognizance or PR bond, meaning Duggar wasn't required to post any money, despite a Homeland Security Investigations special agent testifying that the downloads on Duggar's computer are the "worst of the worst" of child pornography.

Upon his release, Duggar wanted to return home to his pregnant wife, Anna, and their six children. However, Comstock could "not in good conscience" allow that as they reside in a guest house on the property of his parents, Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, and there are five or six of his minor siblings residing there. So Duggar is living with third-party custodians — a couple, LaCount and Maria Reber, who are friendly with his parents through church. LaCount is a pastor who counsels inmates and testified that he wanted to help Duggar, noting it was God's plan for him. Maria testified that she barely knows Josh, having only said hello to him a few times, but agreed to house him because her husband agreed to it. In her testimony, she expressed concern about being left alone with Duggar because, charges aside, she's uncomfortable being alone with a member of the opposite sex other than her husband. However, she said her daughter, who is in her young 20s, would be with her the majority of the time.

Duggar is living in a mother-in-law-type part of the couple's 5,000-square-foot home on 20 acres in Elkins, Ark., which has its own entrance/exit. He will have GPS electronic monitoring and is restricted to the residence at all times — except for a long list of things: employment, education, religious services, medical care and treatment, attorney visits, court appearances, meetings with a probation officer or other activities approved in advance by the probation office. (The judge specifically requested that he doesn't ask to attend children's birthday parties, where kids other than his own may be.)

Duggar is not allowed to use the internet at all — or any device that has internet access. Comstock instructed him to "go to Target" to get a JitterBug phone without internet so he can conduct business, though it's unclear what he does professionally as the car lot was closed not long after it was raided by Homeland Security Investigations in November 2019. He's not allowed to view pornography of any kind‚ and can't use any controlled substances or alcohol and has to surrender any firearms. (The Rebers, who have gun licenses, must remove the guns from their home as well.) Duggar, who must surrender his passport, is limited to the Western District of Arkansas, which includes Washington, Benton and Madison counties, unless he obtains advance permission.

As far as what he can do, he has "unlimited contact" with his children "as long as their mom is present," the judge said. Comstock made the point, however, that he's "to have no other contact with a minor child," including siblings, nieces and nephews, children of friends or minor visitors at his custodians' home.

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After Comstock made her ruling to release him, prosecutors put an objection on the record to Duggar's contact with his children. They offered to provide more testimony from investigators regarding attempts to conduct forensic medical examination of Duggar's kids but provided no further information. Earlier, they also spoke about Duggar molesting four of his sisters and a babysitter when he was a teen.

The judge said if Duggar violates the conditions — or if he breaks any federal, state or local law while out — it would increase potential jail time by up to 10 years for a felony or one year for a misdemeanor. Duggar already faces up to 40 years in prison if convicted on both charges.

During the hearing, the government stated that Duggar could be living with the Rebers for up to six months. However, his jury trial is currently set to begin on July 6 at John Paul Hammerschmidt Federal Building in downtown Fayetteville. A pre-trial conference is set for July 1.

At the trial, HSI agent Gerald Faulkner is expected to testify, as he did for the detention hearing. He oversaw the case and conducted the raid at Duggar's car lot, calling the over 200 images of child porn recovered on Duggar's work desktop the "worst of the worst" in the over 1,000 child porn cases he's investigated. Faulkner is also expected to testify about his interview with Duggar during the raid, including how, before the agents said what they were searching for, Duggar asked, "What is this about? Has someone been downloading child pornography?" He also allegedly admitted to having installed a dark web browser on the desktop.

Meanwhile, there is a petition circulating calling for the network TLC to cancel the 19 Kids and Counting spin-off Counting On that features the Duggar family. There are more than 18,000 signatures as of Friday afternoon.

"The Duggar family should no longer have a platform," the Change.org petition states. "Josh Duggar molested his sisters and as of April 29, 2021 he has been arrested (by federal authorities) for child pornography. This family should no longer be allowed to collect money from streaming services and television series. Enough is enough. Too many people have been harmed."

A rep for TLC did not respond to Yahoo Entertainment's request for comment about the petition — or whether there are plans to remove the shows from its properties.

Duggar has been no stranger to scandal during his time in the spotlight. 19 Kids and Counting was canceled in 2015 after it was revealed that years earlier, when he was a teen in 2002 and 2003, Duggar molested five young girls, including four of his sisters. At the time, he publicly apologized for having "acted inexcusably." That same year, it was exposed that he was using the website Ashley Madison to enable extramarital affairs and he publicly apologized to Anna for being "the biggest hypocrite ever."

by Anonymousreply 127May 8, 2021 1:08 AM

Definitely looking sideways at their entire klan@r125.

by Anonymousreply 128May 8, 2021 1:19 AM

I'd also like to add that it is UNCONSCIONABLE that the judge allowed him unlimited access to his own kids with only his wife supervising. I can't believe he was released with pretty much no restrictions beyond he can't live with his family or visit them either. The long list of things he's allowed to do under "electronic monitoring" is ridiculous. "Education?!" Hopefully that includes "how to not download and view child porn/torture" and "how not to molest kids." Any other "edumacation" can take place in prison, which is where you're going, buddy. Don't know why you're smiling unless you're looking forward to many anal encounters and becoming several people's bitches if you can escape becoming a statistical murder of child molester inmates.

by Anonymousreply 129May 8, 2021 1:23 AM

Molestation and sexual abuse, especially in religious families where masturbation is discouraged or forbidden, is pervasive and generational.

Little girls are taught to ignore the signs of grooming as speaking up about anything wrong within the extended family is viewed as disloyal. Children in religious families are generally not allowed to think independently.

Mothers are financially and emotionally dependent on their husbands so keep silent. Those with multiple young kids always feel powerless if their religion or culture frowns on divorce.

Boys grow up believing that the girl, no matter how young, secretly wanted his sexual attention. All the adult men I've encountered who reveal they've ever been with very young kids claim their victim WANTED their "affection" or at least the money.

NO, they can't be rehabilitated as they adamantly refuse to listen to common sense ie adult responsibility. Yes I've heard a male babysitter brag about sexually abusing infants. "It doesn't hurt them" was his response.

Yes almost all abusers were physically, emotionally, and/or sexually abused by another male or female growing up. Didn't stop them from allowing their super young kids to be abused as well. They're incapable of empathy,

by Anonymousreply 130May 8, 2021 1:43 AM

R126 I’d like to shoot that piece of shit in his fucking face.

by Anonymousreply 131May 8, 2021 1:44 AM

A local radio show, the Dana Cortez Show, really went full bore on him this morning. People are furious with this hypocrite, sicko. I was surprised with the venom towards him. Good.

by Anonymousreply 132May 8, 2021 1:47 AM

[quote] Duggar is living with third-party custodians — a couple, LaCount and Maria Reber, who are friendly with his parents through church.

[quote] LaCount is a pastor who counsels inmates and testified that he wanted to help Duggar, noting it was God's plan for him.

[quote] Maria testified that she barely knows Josh, having only said hello to him a few times, but agreed to house him because her husband agreed to it.

W.

T.

F.

?????

by Anonymousreply 133May 8, 2021 1:53 AM

Used to have an internet friend living near Fayetville, AR. Endless "White Trash" stories. Big signs in the general area welcoming White People. Almost no one around who's not White (limited definition of "White.") Everyone's also anti-governmental interference. (Joining the military to escape therefore isn't the norm.)

Charismatic small churches like snake handling's the norm. Walmart and the local mini-mart with the HUGE selection of liquor are the main jobs. Bet most of the jury pool will be hardcore alkies and druggies.

by Anonymousreply 134May 8, 2021 2:03 AM

I can't believe that he'll be able to visit the kids with just Anna present and no guardian ad litem. You know, the same Anna who was raised by Quiverfull parents who are even more extreme than the Duggars.

What could possibly go wrong when Rule #1 is that girls must submit to their fathers until they get married and ownership is transferred to their husbands. Also, there's the belief that men (because they're created in the image of god) are incapable of having sexual problems on their own.

Every one of their sex addictions, depravities, and crimes is the fault of a wife who withholds sex or a "willful" mother who didn't submit "cheerfully and completely" to the father, thereby inviting the devil in and leading the family to ruin.

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by Anonymousreply 136May 8, 2021 2:43 AM

I'm surprised they didn't release him into the guardianship of Roy Moore.

by Anonymousreply 137May 8, 2021 3:00 AM

R98 asked, "I'm still left wondering what he was implying when he told the story about Josh having to dig out a pond. They shaved his head and punished him by making him dig a pond, but I wish the reddit guy had revealed what Josh did to deserve the punishment."

I read all of both links. He says in there somewhere that the pond digging was punishment for when he was exposed for molesting his sisters. There was a lot to read but some profound insights were in there. many of the people who asked questions related tales of their own fundy upbringing.

by Anonymousreply 138May 8, 2021 3:01 AM

It's the mistaken view that hard, physical labor will get rid of "excess" sexual frustration. Very Biblical.

Meaning if you have "lust in your heart" don't masturbate to pornographic images. Use that energy to be productive by accomplishing a physical task. Then you'll be too exhausted to "sin."

by Anonymousreply 139May 8, 2021 3:52 AM

R139 It's the old, "The devil finds work for idle hands" saying.

by Anonymousreply 140May 8, 2021 4:18 AM

[quote]The one very redeeming feature of inmates is that they tend to make life for child molesters hell and hopefully short.

That's a trope that's been popularized on TV crime shows. In real life it's no longer true.

And studies have shown that there is no evidence to support the idea that *most* molesters were molested in their youth. Of course it happens but that it is common is another crime show meme.

by Anonymousreply 141May 8, 2021 6:18 AM

Love that the misogynists on this thread are trying to deflect from the fact that 95% of child molesters are men. Incels abound. Pathetic little basement dwellers covering for their own guilt, no doubt. Now, back to your NAMBLA meeting, misogynists. This Duggar fuck should be dead along with the other millions of male child molesters out there. After that shitpile is cleaned up, we'll go get the couple thousand women.

by Anonymousreply 142May 8, 2021 6:20 AM

[quote]95% of child molesters are men

Studies show that that 88% to 95% of child molestations involve straight men and little girls.

by Anonymousreply 143May 8, 2021 6:25 AM

R141

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by Anonymousreply 144May 8, 2021 6:25 AM

That article is from 18 years ago. Life has changed.

by Anonymousreply 145May 8, 2021 6:33 AM

r142 are you fucking serious right now?

by Anonymousreply 146May 8, 2021 6:51 AM

R146, talk to the fucking asshole misogynists who decided that this thread was a good place to pretend that women are equal to men when it comes to child molestation. Or, talk to yourself. Probably one and the same.

by Anonymousreply 147May 8, 2021 7:03 AM

r147 i believe that all predators can talk their way into child molestation. i don't know how i missed anything less than that in any of these posts. this fuck deserves all and every charge against him. not sure what i missed but sometimes there are blacklisted posts because you or someone blocked them. this guy is the worst.

by Anonymousreply 148May 8, 2021 7:10 AM

r142 is not me. i guess anyone can pose.

by Anonymousreply 149May 8, 2021 7:15 AM

Idle hands are the Devil's playground!

by Anonymousreply 150May 8, 2021 9:46 AM

Idle hands indeed. Weird fucking assholes on this thread. And Josh and his brethren are them in spades. You know, the ones that would defend a disgusting individual who would search/download an 18 month old toddler torture/sexual porn film. what the fuck disgusting human being wants to see this and how does a JUDGE decide it's okay to release him on bail?! and to see his kids without professional supervision?!!

by Anonymousreply 151May 8, 2021 10:03 AM

Imagine having a job (investigator) where you have to view this disgusting shit to build a case. 🤢🤮

by Anonymousreply 152May 8, 2021 10:38 AM

Right, r152. fucking disgusting. :(

by Anonymousreply 153May 8, 2021 10:41 AM

I don't think R80 is being harsh at all.

by Anonymousreply 154May 8, 2021 2:43 PM

I found it interesting that he had a program on his computer preventing him from watching porn. So it was a known fact he was addicted to (child) porn and possibly a sex addict. Who knew about this? Who installed this program and who was monitoring his online activities? What did they do to protect his children?

by Anonymousreply 155May 8, 2021 2:49 PM

Just catching up on the lengths he went to to view content, in R1. This guy is really sick and obsessed. No regard for his multiple kids or family. He must have done some serious research to figure out how to access everything and 'go around' the monitoring program.

by Anonymousreply 156May 8, 2021 2:56 PM

Or maybe he has a buddy to help him. He seems really dumb.

by Anonymousreply 157May 8, 2021 4:45 PM

If he downloaded child pron videos or images via bit torrent and without a VPN, he really can't be the sharpest tool in the shed. I wouldn't even download that stuff WITH a good VPN. I simply don't trust these providers that your connection and data is really secure. And someone asked upthread if you can still find that stuff on torrent sites. You can't. They usually use private servers and share or sell the links on private Dark Web forums. His VPN protected TOR browser might have given him a bit of protection in the Dark Web, but the dumbass then used an unprotected bit torrent connection to download the actual videos and images? WTF?

by Anonymousreply 158May 8, 2021 5:14 PM

[quote]Who knew about this?

Everyone, dear.

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by Anonymousreply 159May 8, 2021 5:20 PM

^Yes, asshole r159, someone knew he was still a pervert and his kinkiness accelerated, but they only put a program on his computer and left him in a house full of children? So again, who knew about this and why didn't this person report him to authorities?

by Anonymousreply 160May 8, 2021 5:53 PM

Asked and answered several times across three threads, cunthole.

by Anonymousreply 161May 8, 2021 6:35 PM

Everybody thinks child abuse is a terrible crime until the abuser turns out to be somebody they actually care about and might be embarrassed by if they were caught, in which case 99% of the time they'll turn themselves inside out to protect and enable them. See Jerry Sandusky, Epstein and Maxwell, the Catholic Church et al.

by Anonymousreply 162May 8, 2021 6:47 PM

In a shocking twist of events a pastor was caught with child porn. Has this ever happened before?

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by Anonymousreply 163May 8, 2021 6:50 PM

That pastor truly loves children. This is his Twitter account photo. I swear, you can't make up this shit.

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by Anonymousreply 164May 8, 2021 7:35 PM

Child molestation and torture are not "kinkiness", R160. Spanking is "kinky". Child molestation and torture is psychopathic, illegal and completely repellant.

Hope Josh Duggar dies slowly and painfully, crying out for a God who ignored the pleas of the children he directly abused and indirectly harmed by obtaining and enjoying the videos on his PC.

by Anonymousreply 165May 8, 2021 7:38 PM

R162 Very true (but sad) point you make. That definitely contributes to why it's not addressed nearly enough -- they're enabled by family, friends, and in some ways, society.

I've seen it for myself. Everyone acts disgusted until it's dear old dad or their best buddy. I know of 5 men that committed heinous sexual acts against young children, yet they aren't shunned by most of those around them. 1 still has his wife, with grandchildren around, doing "Christian works", with no one concerned about their kids. Another just had the family ignore it ever happened. 2 others were somewhat inconvenienced, but still had a normal life.1 did hit rock bottom, but was on the way there way before that. All hold jobs, with 4/5 still having access to children. With 4/5, the victims were demonized for getting them in trouble, suffering from being ostracized.

I don't believe it's a sexual orientation either. I think it's all down to being predatory, sadistic scumbags, that put themselves there mentally. They get off on the manipulation involved and taking away autonomy from their victims. It's about the mental state of the victims. Sexual abusers of disabled and elderly people aren't giving excuses like having an unfortunate "sexual orientation" or bad starts in life. Raping an infant is no more an innate sexual burden, than raping someone mentally handicapped, 85 years old, or dead.

There's plently of fucked up sexual acts/ fetishes being developed. Foot binding is a good example. Over time, men developed a sexual fetish over feet that were rotten, mishapen, and unnatural, because it was so normalized. That's why abuse of the vulnerable should never be tolerated, enabled, or excused. Society needs to stay vigilant about harsh prosecution and stomping it out online or anywhere else.

by Anonymousreply 166May 8, 2021 7:39 PM

By the wording of their posts, I'm convinced that there are a few pedos in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 167May 8, 2021 7:50 PM

Lacount Reber’s helpmeet sounds thrilled about having Josh in the house. Unfortunately for her, her opinion counts for as much in the court system as it does at home.

[quote]Earlier in the hearing, a federal probation officer, Diem Nguyen, was called as a witness and recommended to the court that Duggar not be released.

[quote]During his testimony, Nguyen said that Maria had expressed concerns to the probation office about Duggar's release into their home because her husband works full-time and there are several hours per day she would be alone with Duggar.

[quote]"Mrs. Reber was concerned regarding being left alone with Josh, because he was a male and she was a female," Nguyen said, adding that "she wasn't sure how she felt about being alone with him for long durations of time."

[quote]Maria also told Nguyen that she and her husband did not know Duggar well, but they were close with his parents — Jim Bob and Michelle — who asked them to serve as his custodians.

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by Anonymousreply 168May 8, 2021 7:50 PM

A lot of hetro men feel they own women, R168. You see it after a break up or divorce. It's why there's so much stalking and partner violence from hetro men, especially when the women try to move on or have a life that doesn't involve them. They go berserk. The old, "IF I CAN'T HAVE HER, NO ONE CAN!" shit. Sadly it's not just the religious guys, either. The statistics on it are depressing as hell.

by Anonymousreply 169May 8, 2021 8:14 PM

[quote] I wouldn't even download that stuff {child pornography--!!} WITH a good VPN. I simply don't trust these providers that your connection and data is really secure.

WTF?

by Anonymousreply 170May 8, 2021 8:27 PM

[quote] I wonder what made him so fucked up?

His parents were too busy procreating to actually raise their children -- or instill decency or morality in any of their 19 or so kids. Disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 171May 8, 2021 8:37 PM

R171, Have met lots of sickos like Josh Duggar. All see absolutely nothing wrong with their behavior. All claim that either the extremely young child wanted it, or that their victims weren't really harmed by being repeatedly molested and/or raped.

Usually lots of other adults in the community know about this horror including government employees and LE. Too often the young kids are blamed for somehow being provocative or not being able to physically stop the more powerful adult.

by Anonymousreply 172May 8, 2021 9:47 PM

I hope CPS paid his family a visit and made sure he didn't "touch" any of his children. I doubt that sicko has any natural inhibitions when he even molested his sisters.

by Anonymousreply 173May 8, 2021 10:19 PM

[quote]he really can't be the sharpest tool in the shed.

Was anyone really expecting "Jim Bob Duggar" to produce a set of Harvard grads?

by Anonymousreply 174May 8, 2021 11:40 PM

Not a scintilla of embarrassment, shame, remorse, or even worry on that sick bastard's mug.

That judge is either evil or impossibly naive.

by Anonymousreply 175May 9, 2021 1:33 AM

There was something that said that Duggar's wife (Anna) was refusing to allow her children to be given forensic exams. I don't have the source, but that stuck in my mind.

by Anonymousreply 176May 9, 2021 3:36 AM

Not a surprise, r176. Likely they'd find that a few of the kids weren't virgins anymore.

by Anonymousreply 177May 9, 2021 3:42 AM

[Quote]There was something that said that Duggar's wife (Anna) was refusing to allow her children to be given forensic exams

Of course not. Can you imagine how their girls' pelvic inflammations at the age of 10 and their treatment underworld looked like to the humanity? Or if daddy's semen or DNA were found in scrapings or discarded underwear?

by Anonymousreply 178May 9, 2021 6:10 AM

Pelvic inflammations at 11 or 12, yes. But Josh Duggar has been out of the home for many days now. How could his semen still be present 10 days later? Especially if Anna forced the girls against 'purifying' vaginal cleansers to maintain their complete & total innocence, even if irreversible toxic cleansers were involved. They didn't know about poisons and stuff!!!

by Anonymousreply 179May 9, 2021 6:40 AM

On the other hand, you cannot imagine the depths of depravity to which these little sluts and harlots will stoop in their attempts to lure and seduce decent, God fearing men.

by Anonymousreply 180May 9, 2021 6:56 AM

Forensic examinations are not just physical, in this instance.

by Anonymousreply 181May 9, 2021 3:20 PM

These are probably his last days out of prison. He could get 20 years or more. I always wonder what this is like. Will he visit his favorite restaurants, fuck his wife one last time, spend some "quality time" with his children? Same with Derek Chauvin. He was out on probation before the trial, but knew he would go to prison for a long time.

I hope he enjoys his last weeks of freedom before he hopefully rots in prison.

by Anonymousreply 182May 9, 2021 3:35 PM

I really hate this guy.

by Anonymousreply 183May 9, 2021 3:37 PM

I hope he enjoys nothing, R182, and lives in dread until they lock him up.

by Anonymousreply 184May 9, 2021 3:48 PM

[quote]fuck his wife one last time

She’ll probably be knocked up again before he’s locked up. According to Gothard law, if a head hasn’t demanded sex within 48 hours of the last time (assuming it doesn’t violate the fourteen days of abstinence), the helpmeet is required to initiate it within the next twelve-hour period.

There's also a worksheet with a list of questions she’s supposed to ask herself re: what she did that made him not want to fuck her. Then she has to pray for forgiveness.

And since they depend on ATI-trained midwives*, stage of pregnancy and postpartum recovery don't factor into a woman’s sexual output.

*Teenage girls who are deemed uncourtable are shunted into ATI midwifery training. Since they’re unmarried, nothing involving sex is taught. They’re only taught the mechanics of how Bill Gothard imagines pregnancy and childbirth are supposed to go. The estranged Duggar is the exception to the rule — I’m not sure if she started out with ATI but she’s an actual licensed midwife now.

by Anonymousreply 185May 9, 2021 6:58 PM

No visits to restaurants, r182. He can't leave the house. I feel sorry for the pastor's wife who has to put up with Duggar in the house 24/7, cook his meals, and do his laundry. She even told the social worker assessing that she wasn't comfortable with the arrangement because her husband was gone 12 hours a day. And the adult daughter who lives there. She's 22 and I imagine she doesn't feel safe with him around. She's also going to suffer a loss of income, too. Surely, not all of the children she gives piano lessons come from cult families. I'd be yanking my kid immediately.

by Anonymousreply 186May 9, 2021 7:07 PM

R185, his wife is already pregnant. With a little girl, of course.

by Anonymousreply 187May 9, 2021 7:14 PM

I knew that she was pregnant, R187, but I thought she was much further along than she actually is and could possibly squeeze another one in before he's sentenced.

by Anonymousreply 188May 9, 2021 7:38 PM

Do you get spousal visits when you're locked up for child pron possession?

by Anonymousreply 189May 9, 2021 7:41 PM

Hey, if you can get out on bail when charged with possession of child pornography and be given unsupervised access to your kids (except by your either stupid or complicit wife), all bets are off. Sure, probably.

by Anonymousreply 190May 9, 2021 11:34 PM

Any peep from TLC so far? After all, they inflicted this garbage on America and tried to normalize it.

by Anonymousreply 191May 10, 2021 12:59 AM

Their peep was, "Josh Duggar? Hmm, it sounds kind of familiar but no one with that name has appeared on a TLC show since at least 2015. You sure he was one of ours?"

They failed to mention the other Duggar show, which still hasn't been canceled, or explained why they chose to promote a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, tax-evading, child-torturing cult in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 192May 10, 2021 5:40 AM

I don't know why I find this crazy. OF COURSE the number of children you have has nothing to do with predilection to child porn. But my first thought was that he'd be so sick of kids he'd never be into them. He'd be into hardcore porn with adults. Again, it's a stupid reaction, but it was my first thought.

by Anonymousreply 193May 10, 2021 5:51 AM

I just want to post my experience as an alternative to some of the posts above. I had a client who was arrested and charged with child pornography. Nice family man with two children- a bit of a shlub,but a nice guy. When he was arrested,*everyone* turned on him. *Nothing* he had did previously mattered. He got no sympathy from anyone. There were *no* excuses for his behavior. Maybe Westchester Jews are different from, but everyone was horrified, particularly since he had two young daughters.

by Anonymousreply 194May 10, 2021 10:27 AM

r194 EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT JOSH DUGGAR HAS ALREADY BEEN CHARGED WITH CHILD MOLESTATION OF HIS OWN SISTERS.

by Anonymousreply 195May 10, 2021 10:34 AM

R195, I wasn't referring to those comments. Are you *that* thick? PS, I think your shift key is stuck.

by Anonymousreply 196May 10, 2021 10:37 AM

r194 you seem to be trying to excuse Josh. If you weren't, that's my mistake. but maybe i interpreted your post incorrectly.

by Anonymousreply 197May 10, 2021 10:44 AM

R197, the exact opposite. I am saying that not everyone makes excuses for child molestation. At least in the one case that I know, the guy is lucky that he went to jail, because his own family would have gladly killed him. This was in NY and the guy was *not* allowed out on bail either. It would have been the 1990s. I am not sure if the laws regarding bail have changed.

by Anonymousreply 198May 10, 2021 11:12 AM

Trolly trolling trolls pretending to defend Josh Dugger!

by Anonymousreply 199May 10, 2021 1:28 PM

Do you think Josh and Anna have had sex since he's been out on bail? You know she has to do it. I couldn't imagine having to do it with my pedo loving child torture watching husband.

by Anonymousreply 200May 10, 2021 2:37 PM

I simply don't understand the judge's leniency. Children of poverty are tortured, raped, and murdered for the viewing pleasure of Duggar and his perverted ilk.

This Duggar criminal seems to me a clear and present danger to society at large; the pastor's wife and daughter with whom he is staying; and his children with whom he can visit, hug, and/or threaten, the presence of his cult-member wife notwithstanding.

by Anonymousreply 201May 10, 2021 3:00 PM

I can't fathom how anyone has interpreted R194's comment as being pro-Josh Duggar. It's obviously about the difference in the communities: Westchester Jews immediately shunned and condemned the guy charged with CP, but the Duggars' community didn't.

by Anonymousreply 202May 10, 2021 3:42 PM

R195, I think Joshie was never charged. He was made to do “penance”.

by Anonymousreply 203May 10, 2021 6:23 PM

R106 - Jim Bob is creepy. I was bored and scanning channels and managed to see part of an episode of "Counting On." One of his daughters/daughters-in-law was having a baby and Michelle was on the phone to him updating him on her progress. Instead of saying something vague like "it's a slow process but everything is going to plan", she was actually going through all of the gory details which are really NONE of his business (eg. how much she's dilated?). WTF? I nearly fell off my chair.

by Anonymousreply 204May 10, 2021 6:35 PM

"I couldn't imagine having to do it with my pedo loving child torture watching husband."

Maybe they fuck Handmaid's Tale style.

by Anonymousreply 205May 11, 2021 5:04 AM

After that many kids she probably can't feel his four incher, if she ever was able to anyway, and she lets him nut in her at will because if she refuses she knows he'll go after their daughters.

You know she's praying Joshie dies in prison.

by Anonymousreply 206May 11, 2021 5:22 AM

R205, I haven't watched Handmaid's Tale. How do they fuck? lol

by Anonymousreply 207May 11, 2021 5:32 AM

The idiot judge was probably starstruck.

by Anonymousreply 208May 11, 2021 5:44 AM

R207, the Handmaids are fertile women used as childbearing slaves. The infertile wife lies on top of the Handmaid, both facing up, and the husband goes at it with the handmaid's body missionary style. This enforces the conceit that the handmaid's womb and its "fruit" belong to the couple, and that it's symbolically the wife who's being impregnated.

by Anonymousreply 209May 11, 2021 2:32 PM

[quote] Josh Duggar's Wife Anna Is 'Standing by Him' and Believes He's 'Innocent,' Says Source

Josh Duggar has his wife Anna Duggar's support amid his ongoing child pornography case.

"She's standing by him," a source tells PEOPLE exclusively. "She thinks Josh is innocent."

"Josh has seen his children with Anna there. She has to be there," the insider adds of Anna, who is currently pregnant with the pair's seventh child.

Late last month, the U.S. Marshals Service confirmed to PEOPLE that Homeland Security arrested Josh, 33, and transported him to an Arkansas jail where he was held without bond.

While in police custody, the 19 Kids and Counting alum appeared in court virtually via Zoom and pleaded not guilty to charges of receiving and possessing child pornography.

At the time, U.S Chief Magistrate Judge Erin L. Wiedemann also declared during the hearing that Josh would be prohibited from returning to his Arkansas home with Anna, 32, and their six children if released. Instead, he would have to be "in a residence where there's no minor in the home."

Josh was released from jail one week after his arrest. As he awaits trial, he is required to stay with third party custodians Lacount and Maria Reber. He is being confined to their home with GPS tracking.

Josh was additionally granted "unlimited contact" with his children — Mackynzie Renée, 11, Michael James, 9, Marcus Anthony, 7, Meredith Grace, 5, Mason Garrett, 3, and Maryella Hope, 17 months — provided that Anna is present. However, he is not allowed to see any other minor children, including his many nieces and nephews.

Josh's trial is set for early July. If convicted, the former reality star faces up to 20 years of imprisonment and fines up to $250,000 on each of the two counts, making his total possible sentence 40 years.

Josh's parents, Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, broke their silence on the matter shortly after his arrest. "We appreciate your continued prayers for our family at this time. The accusations brought against Joshua today are very serious," their joint statement read.

"It is our prayer that the truth, no matter what it is, will come to light, and that this will all be resolved in a timely manner," it continued. "We love Josh and Anna and continue to pray for their family."

Josh, who prosecutors believe had more than 200 images of children on his computer, is no stranger to controversy. In 2015, a 2006 police report that surfaced indicated Josh was investigated for molesting five underage girls, two of which included sisters Jill Dillard and Jessa Seewald. Josh said that he was "extremely sorry" for the "wrongdoing."

That same year, Josh revealed that he cheated on Anna and admitted to struggling with addiction to pornography after Gawker reported about his active accounts on Ashley Madison — a website that helps to facilitate affairs. His Arkansas car dealership was then raided by Homeland Security in 2019 due to an "ongoing federal investigation," but it was never made clear whether he was the focus of the investigation.

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by Anonymousreply 210May 24, 2021 7:51 PM

Anna's pussy stinks!

by Anonymousreply 211May 24, 2021 7:51 PM

I think Josh's days are definitely numbered; he'll kill himself or now that' he's a liability to "the brand", some good Christian man will put him out of his misery.

The wife is some Q-Anon nut who blames the whole thing on Joe Biden

The whole thing is beyond pathetic

by Anonymousreply 212May 24, 2021 8:01 PM

Let's name Anna and Josh's next few kids!

Morbid Duggar

Mildly Retarded Duggar

Mistake Duggar

by Anonymousreply 213May 25, 2021 12:32 AM

[quote] Morbid Duggar

[quote] Mildly Retarded Duggar

[quote] Mistake Duggar

Don't forget... Molested Duggar!

by Anonymousreply 214May 25, 2021 12:34 AM

Maryella Hope, 5 months, Mason Garrett, 3½, Meredith Grace, 5½, Marcus Anthony, 7½, Michael James, 9½, and Mackynzie Renée, 11

Out of all the M names they chose Maryella?

Megabitch Duggar

Mongoloid Duggar

Mussy Duggar

Molestia Duggar

by Anonymousreply 215May 26, 2021 6:56 PM

Was he fucking the judge too? "Serious" charges and she lets him out?

by Anonymousreply 216May 26, 2021 7:12 PM

update

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by Anonymousreply 217June 18, 2021 2:40 AM

.........

by Anonymousreply 218December 9, 2021 8:30 PM

Update: GUILTY

by Anonymousreply 219December 9, 2021 9:51 PM
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