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FAA reports 'off the charts' spike in unruly, dangerous passenger behavior on flights

The Federal Aviation Administration is warning air travelers about what it describes as a dramatic increase in unruly or dangerous behavior aboard passenger airplanes.

In a typical year, the transportation agency sees 100 to 150 formal cases of bad passenger behavior. But since the start of this year, the agency said, the number of reported cases has jumped to 1,300, an even more remarkable number since the number of passengers remains below pre-pandemic levels.

The behavior in question includes passengers refusing to wear masks, drinking excessively and engaging in alleged physical or verbal assault, including what the agency describes as political intimidation and harassment of lawmakers.

In Fort Lauderdale, Florida, for example, a fistfight broke out amid a dispute over mask-wearing. In Washington, D.C., a passenger was escorted off a flight after arguing with flight attendants over the mask rule.

In another case, a flight bound for Los Angeles was diverted to Denver and forced to make an emergency landing after a passenger allegedly tried to open an emergency exit.

In recent days, Alaska Airlines banned an Alaska state senator for refusing to comply with mask requirements, according to The Anchorage Daily News.

“It is not permissible and we will not tolerate interfering with a flight crew and the performance of their safety duties,” Stephen Dickson, the administrator of the FAA, said of the wave of incidents. “Period.”

The FAA is now taking a “zero-tolerance” approach to poor behavior: Unruly passengers face potential criminal charges, fines up to $35,000 or lifetime bans on certain airlines.

The bad behavior appears to be taking a toll. Angela Hagedorn, a former flight attendant with Alaska Airlines, tweeted that she recently resigned.

“It has been an exhausting time for all the employees who are just trying to do their job according to their company’s policies," she said. “The constant arguing and pushback from guests, it’s ridiculous."

Sara Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants union, said airline employees have reported a wide range of troubling incidents.

“What we have seen on our planes is flight attendants being physically assaulted, pushed, choked,” Nelson said. “We have a passenger urinate. We had a passenger spit into the mouth of a child on board.

“These are some of the things that we have been dealing with,” Nelson said, adding that the physical and verbal abuse that flight attendants have allegedly experienced this year has been “way off the charts” compared to the last 20 years.

In the months ahead, as parts of the United States begin to rebound from the pandemic and a greater number of people take to the skies, the FAA — along with the Transportation Security Administration and Air Marshals — plan to watch closely for behavior that threatens crew members or passenger safety.

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by Anonymousreply 7605/05/2021

I think this is an unintended consequence of giving three rounds of stimulus money to everyone.

Homeless people, people who have never traveled before, and even mentally ill people now have access to money and travel.

It's weird, because I have been flying and traveling a lot lately, and I've noticed an entirely different type of traveler at the airports I've been to.

Much trashier.

Instead of only having bus money to travel, now they have airfare to get around the country.

I am the last one to ever intentionally be classist or a snob, but it really does suck to have to fly/travel with crazy people.

by Anonymousreply 105/04/2021

All of the worst people are flying right now.

It's like the reports from servers and restaurant workers about the horrifically awful people dining out during the pandemic. These people are all sociopathic narcissists.

by Anonymousreply 205/04/2021

R1 is one of the stupidest posts on DL. Boris, homeless people do not "have access to money and travel now" because of a few thousand in stimulus checks.

by Anonymousreply 305/04/2021

"I am the last one to ever intentionally be classist or a snob,"

That might be the biggest lie DL has seen in a long time.

I'd rather be traveling with someone who received stimulus money than travel with a bigot like R1.

by Anonymousreply 405/04/2021

[quote]I am the last one to ever intentionally be classist or a snob

Ohh! Funny! Now do the one where you spew right wing talking points but claim to be "a liberal Democrat!"

by Anonymousreply 505/04/2021

"Fasten your seatbelts; it's going to be a bumpy flight."

by Anonymousreply 605/04/2021

This brings new meaning to Mile High ‘Club’.

by Anonymousreply 705/04/2021

[quote] Boris, homeless people do not "have access to money and travel now" because of a few thousand in stimulus checks.

1400 + 600 + 1400 = 3400.

Do the math.

That's a lot of money for people who never had money before.

by Anonymousreply 805/04/2021

They should start banning people from the skies for life.

by Anonymousreply 905/04/2021

Yes R8, and all those people who are depending on those checks to live are going to say, "I don't need groceries, I don't need rent money, I don't need health care. What I need is a trip to Vail to go skiing!"

by Anonymousreply 1005/04/2021

This is more to do with Trump's encouragement of bad, trashy behavior.

by Anonymousreply 1105/04/2021

The problem isn’t that the homeless used their stimulus checks to travel.

It’s that the deplorables did. They see spreading their disease around as much as possible as a way of owing the libs.

by Anonymousreply 1205/04/2021

[quote] They should start banning people from the skies for life.

On a flight I took this past weekend, the flight attendant made an announcement halfway through the flight, that basically threatened the entire plane with law enforcement action because so many people were not wearing their masks.

It was Delta Airlines, and he started pleading with people to please wear their masks, it's federal law, they can be banned from Delta for life, and they would call law enforcement if necessary. The poor guy was practically begging people to put their masks back on.

I'm sensing a weird shift in this country, towards mask wearing. People just don't want to do it any more.

by Anonymousreply 1305/04/2021

This is the Cub Fan effect.

Each season suburban idiots clog public transportation to visit a losing team playing home games. These shit heads do as they please because nobody they know will hold them accountable. There’s safety in anonymity. They get drunk, act like assholes, and hassle fuckers just trying to get home from work. Then, they go home and behave themselves where they must.

It’s the same for flyers. They have to really act out to be held accountable for their trash behavior. They can get away with behaving like Cub fans for the trip and pretend to behave themselves once they reach their destination.

by Anonymousreply 1405/04/2021

I hope they're all added to a permanent no flying list . It would teach them a valuable lesson if they have to take 30h Greyhound bus trip from South Dakota to Florida for their winter vacation.

by Anonymousreply 1505/04/2021

Karen becomes a human Oreo!

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by Anonymousreply 1605/04/2021

Fuck all y'all!

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by Anonymousreply 1705/04/2021

What r11 said.

by Anonymousreply 1805/04/2021

Soul Plane

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by Anonymousreply 1905/04/2021

R16 lady seems like a typical Datalounger to me.

by Anonymousreply 2005/04/2021

R11 has it exactly right. We will be living for a very long time with the aftereffects of the Trump years. He gave permission to the dregs of society to act out with impunity their worst impulses. He unleashed hate.

And this toothpaste will not go back in the tube.

by Anonymousreply 2105/04/2021

Greyhound Air

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by Anonymousreply 2205/04/2021

Regardless of their opinion, it's a federal regulation. Why do they not understand this?

by Anonymousreply 2305/04/2021

I Have Had It With These Motherfucking Snakes On This Motherucking Plane!

by Anonymousreply 2405/04/2021

Increased substance abuse, especially meth, along with what R21 correctly said about Shit stain 45 after effects are to blame. I also think the widening income disparity is playing a role in everyones increasing anger, fear, and feelings of unfairness and hopelessness. Jmo

by Anonymousreply 2505/04/2021

[quote]That's a lot of money for people who never had money before.

You think "homeless people" are booking flights with $3400 in stimulus money?

Do you have a cognitive disorder?

How. would a "homeless person" even cash a stimulus check? How would they apply for a credit card in order to book a flight? Are you imagining "homeless people" queuing up at the airport with their stimulus checks in hand, exchanging them for airline tickets, and then "acting unruly" on flights, because "homeless people?"

And you believe that this amazing and completely unrealistic phenomenon, repeated multiple times to a degree many times multiplied from the same behavior prior to the pandemic, and this factor alone, is to blame for the exponential spike in bad behavior on planes?

Are you fucking serious?

by Anonymousreply 2605/04/2021

Not only that, R10, but after getting the checks, forgoing food, shelter, medical care and drugs in exchange for airline tickets, they then immediately engage in "unruly behavior." Because that's what homeless people are, violent lunatics who don't deserve the most meager of handouts during the most horrific of times, because they're just going to misbehave because they're violent lunatics.

Everyone please F&F R1.

by Anonymousreply 2705/04/2021

LOL at the trolls insisting the ones causing trouble are homeless people and not Deplorables refusing to wear masks, because Trump and the GQP told them so.

It's Deplorables who make "hell is other people" a brutal reality.

by Anonymousreply 2805/04/2021

"Vile woman dries her disgusting panties during a flight" was one of the side videos when I clicked on R16's link. Unfortunately it had been taken down.

Seriously, people? This makes me want to never leave the house. Like a bunch of filthy animals.

by Anonymousreply 2905/04/2021

R1 I recently flew NYC to LA and back. I noticed it too, an entirely different class of passenger. One passenger literally had packed his luggage in an enormous shopping bag and was upset that the flight attendant wouldn't let him keep it next to him as it didn't fit under the seat.

by Anonymousreply 3005/04/2021

You would think that social media would push people more to be on their best behavior (not wanting to be the latest meme).

by Anonymousreply 3105/04/2021

Is there an Exorcist on the plane?

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by Anonymousreply 3205/04/2021

Perhaps this is the result of airlines ever increasing habit of making seats smaller and smaller to accommodate more and more passengers.

by Anonymousreply 3305/04/2021

While there is no excuse for bad behavior, I also think this is the end result of airlines packing seats so tight that practically everyone is cheek to cheek with fellow passengers, no food & airline staff getting pissy without anyone that dares raise an issue. People feel they're receiving shitty treatment from the airlines & behave badly as a result. It's not entirely that - obviously, its also the "MAGA don't impinge on my freedom" crap, but things have been unraveling on airlines for a while now.

by Anonymousreply 3405/04/2021

Fuck me, I'm flying next week for the first time in the covid era. Even though I'm fully vaccinated, I do not want to be surrounded by a mask-less horde. I don't know if I'll hold it together for 5 hours if I'm seated next to an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 3505/04/2021

We also have to reform the TSA theater with which we’ve grown accustomed. Real clothing, shoes, and belts are avoided while pajama clothing for the long wait is encouraged. Trifling carry-on restrictions combined with nearly useless weapon scanning practices creates a bitchy public.

by Anonymousreply 3605/04/2021

Agreed R36; when is the last time anyone seriously took a look at the stuff they're restricting to ascertain whether or not they're an actual threat.

by Anonymousreply 3705/04/2021

[quote] Fuck me, I'm flying next week for the first time in the covid era. Even though I'm fully vaccinated, I do not want to be surrounded by a mask-less horde. I don't know if I'll hold it together for 5 hours if I'm seated next to an idiot.

I took a five hour flight last week, and thankfully I had a seat between myself and this other guy.

He was really big and tall, and from the beginning of the flight he had his mask down. At first he was eating his chips, so I thought nothing of it. Then he would keep his mask below his nose. After about an hour, he just took it off, and never put it back on. None of the flight attendants said a word about it.

I don't know if it was because he was a really big guy, or what.

Towards the end of the flight he started talking to me, and I found out that he was only 20 years old and he said he hated wearing masks and didn't understand why we had to do it. He even had the nerve to tell me that he was willing to get kicked off a flight for not wearing a mask.

I'm not kidding.

Some people just really don't give a shit.

by Anonymousreply 3805/04/2021

I flew economy plus on the way down to PVR a month ago. It was hell so I upgraded to first on the way home (a four-hour flight). I decided that if I can't afford first, I can't afford the trip from here on out. Those seats in steerage are so small and I had a woman with a baby on her lap in the middle seat on the way down who asked me to hold her infant every time she got up to use the restroom. She had never flown before. Cute baby.

by Anonymousreply 3905/04/2021

[quote]He even had the nerve to tell me that he was willing to get kicked off a flight for not wearing a mask.

Wow; you can be fined thousands of dollars (not to mention the notoriety) for being kicked off a flight; if you really hate it that much, just drive, fucker!

by Anonymousreply 4005/04/2021

I'll never understand people who make a scene in public. Do you really want for your life to suck even harder by getting arrested, having a criminal record, be the laughingstock on social media and maybe even get fired from your job?

I am starting to think anger management courses, four times per year, should be mandatory nationwide for all ages. Especially for Deplorables.

by Anonymousreply 4105/04/2021

Masks don't do shit. I wore one the other day for hours while out shopping. When I got home I cleaned my nose out with a tissue and it was dirty from pollution. If soot can get through those things- you don't think viruses can?

I'm not sure how someone can get Covid and their spouse doesn't, but it ain't because of masks.

by Anonymousreply 4205/04/2021

PS, the guy sitting near me said that he was from Michigan.

WTF is with Michigan and masks???

It's almost a culture of rebellion against them.

by Anonymousreply 4305/04/2021

This started long before that imbecile was in the WH. It's gotten worse since.

As others have noted, the airlines share the blame with packing people into tiny seats.

It's also because we are becoming more and more self-centered and selfish as a society.

If you can afford to, travel Business or First Class.

Did feel sorry for the mother have that hysterical child. Kid ought to be grounded until she's 18.

by Anonymousreply 4405/04/2021

Wearing face mask doesn't affect normal, healthy people under normal living condition. But for obese people at high altitude in compressurized cabin, oxygen levels that the brain perceives go haywire and this results in people acting unruly and aggressive.

by Anonymousreply 4505/04/2021

I recently flew and did not notice anyone disobeying rules during the flight even though it was a long flight, over 9 hours.

When I went to pick up my luggage I did see around 5 unmasked individuals, and no one said a word.

Part of the problem is that airlines suck, they make you pay for the luxury of a seat assignment when this should be prohibited during the pandemic. Families and people flying together should be seated together to prevent the spread of COVID.

Things have changed so much for air travelers, you get charged for checked luggage and carryons, you need to pay a princely sum for an extra 5 inches of legroom and there is no food served unless you fly first class on certain routes. The seats are tight and this leads to tensions.

Finally you are funneled like cattle through security just so you can wait fully masked for the flight that you hope is not delayed., no wonder people are cranky. Traveling used to be fun and it’s such a hassle now.

I remember flying was so much fun as a kid, you got your wings pinned on by the flight attendant. You could visit the cockpit and you were served warm food, snacks and drinks during your flight.

by Anonymousreply 4605/04/2021

WTF with that little girl? Was it some of panic attack? Autism? The way she was breathing makes me think she was having some sort of anxiety attack. Cold cock the little bitch.

by Anonymousreply 4705/04/2021

74% of the incidents involve Marlo Thomas.

by Anonymousreply 4805/04/2021

I'd like to see a Venn diagram of these unruly passengers and Q loons.

by Anonymousreply 4905/04/2021

America is full of trashbag morons with hair-trigger tempers.

by Anonymousreply 5005/04/2021

[quote] she stated: 'I'm not sitting next to a f---ing 3-year-old. I've been drinking all day.'

Preach it girl!

by Anonymousreply 5105/04/2021

As a frequent flyer, I sincerely hope those types do not invade Business or First Class.

by Anonymousreply 5205/04/2021

R52 It does not matter what class you fly when people misbehave and cause flight delays, everyone is affected.

by Anonymousreply 5305/04/2021

[quote]I remember flying was so much fun as a kid, you got your wings pinned on by the flight attendant. You could visit the cockpit and you were served warm food, snacks and drinks during your flight.

My father told me stores about flying in the 60s and 70s when airplanes were basically singles' bars. Planes had a lounge where people spent the whole flight smoking and getting drunk and exchanging phone numbers.

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by Anonymousreply 5405/04/2021

That seems so much for fun R54. Why did they take the lounges out? Safety reasons first and then space?

by Anonymousreply 5505/04/2021

^^more fun

by Anonymousreply 5605/04/2021

[quote] Why did they take the lounges out? Safety reasons first and then space?

So they could cram people like cattle into small seats, and then nickel and dime them to death!!

by Anonymousreply 5705/04/2021

My dad said the lounges on planes in the 60s and 70s were a lot of fun. People were laid back and liked to talk to each other. Flying was actually an enjoyable experience, if you can even imagine. He's said younger people have no idea what we missed.

by Anonymousreply 5805/04/2021

In the 50's and 60's, companies actually used to cater to the customer.

Now, they try to squeeze every drop of blood from us.

This is why having mega-corporations is so dangerous. They don't feel the need to treat the customer well. They see us as (as gangsters say) "a mark."

Reaganomics, de-regulation, mergers, monopolies, etc.

This is what's causing the growing wealth disparity.

But what the sheeple don't understand, is that they hide all of their trickery behind slick advertising and commercials. Showing a kindler, gentler corporation that is inclusive and diverse, and cares about the customer.

BULL SHIT!!!!!!!!

They treat their customers like garbage.

by Anonymousreply 5905/04/2021

R42, that black stuff that came out of your nose wasn't air pollution. You got that when you lowered your mask to sniff around the base of all the toilets at the mall.

by Anonymousreply 6005/04/2021

Absolutely r59! This bullshit from corporations about how "they care" and all the diversity shit. Please. They care nothing for anyone. It's all about profits.

by Anonymousreply 6105/04/2021

r59 in 1970 a round trip ticket to London was 550 dollars equal to about 3,200 today. NY-LHR today 500rt, the same. 1n 1976 NY-MIA rt was about 200 dollars, today 50 bucks! People want the cheapest possible thing no matter what. On most airlines you can buy a bigger seat in coach. Also, seat pitch is published on google flights, pick an airline with more room.

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by Anonymousreply 6205/04/2021

Wow never knew flying was so expensive R62. Unfortunately the way airlines are now is the only way poor people will be able to afford travel.

by Anonymousreply 6305/04/2021

Just wait until these standing seats become the norm

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by Anonymousreply 6405/04/2021

Previous winky was stinky

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by Anonymousreply 6505/04/2021

Thank god for those giant airplane lounges of the 70s. It was the only place the large cast of old Hollywood stars could gather once the plane sunk to the bottom of the ocean.

Miss Olivia de Haviland and her maid still could get treated like royalty there, despite the plane slowly filling with sea water! Not so much today, they'd be shoved into a Southwest flight like sardines and be forced to share a flotation device.

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by Anonymousreply 6605/04/2021

R62, exactly! All those people bemoaning the “golden days” of air travel, when you’d be served lobster in silver cutlery, had a lounge bar in the galley to smoke and snog a sexy flight attendant, and when airlines “really catered to customers”, do not understand that in those days, air travel cost a fortune and was really reserved to the elite. Who would get served according to the price they’d paid. Economy class didn’t exist in those days. Nowadays, you still can have the same level of service if you buy international First Class, which costs roughly the same those tickets cost in those golden days. Perspective, people!

by Anonymousreply 6705/04/2021

Well maybe it should be that way again, R67.

Airline travel has turned into a fucking nightmare.

by Anonymousreply 6805/04/2021

[quote] I decided that if I can't afford first, I can't afford the trip from here on out.

This. I'm 6'2 and as the seats got smaller, my knees were in a position for an involuntary gang bang. I started with your rule on international trips. If I couldn't have lay flat (business class), it wasn't worth the trip because the jet lag and 12 hour flight next to god knows who. About 2 years ago, I extended it the rule to domestic, even on short flights. First class is only a few hundred dollars more on domestic typically, which is not much different than a meal and a couple drinks at the airport. Private lounge, restrooms, free drinks on the plane. which I very much take advantage of.

I think in general, Americans are just getting trashier by the minute regardless of party affiliation. As an old millennial of 40, I used to have to dress up for flights when I was a child in the 80's. No one has a manners, consideration, or class today and the camera is always rolling now.

by Anonymousreply 6905/04/2021

I can't stand air travel and all the disgusting pigs you have to deal with. And believe me, Business Class has them too. It's not just coach. If I can drive it in less than 24 hours I usually do that instead of flying.

by Anonymousreply 7005/04/2021

Well, what do you expect? Corporate America created these entitled monsters, now they have to deal with them. Or rather, their lowly underpaid staff does.

by Anonymousreply 7105/04/2021

Do most airlines have a mask policy now? It seems they will have to enforce it more stringently.

The best way would be to not require masks but vaccination certificates to board flights.

by Anonymousreply 7205/04/2021

[quote] Do most airlines have a mask policy now? It seems they will have to enforce it more stringently.

ALL airlines have a mask policy, because it's federal law.

You can be fined, arrested, banned from flying, etc.

But Deplorables and MAGATS just don't care.

by Anonymousreply 7305/05/2021

DeploraBoris, trolling this thread:

"I know! We'll blame the homeless and claim it's because of Biden's stimulus checks!"

Lather, rinse, repeat = this thread.

by Anonymousreply 7405/05/2021

Fake News! Chem trails! Masks are to force us to breathe in more deeply the re-circulating germs! Turbulence is a Democrat hoax to trap us in our seats so Bill Gates can monitor our headphones! George Soros owns the company that prepares airplane food---Resist!

This airline is known to smuggle in Central American children for secret Demon-rat cannibalistic rituals in government underground bunkers! The TRUTH is hidden in Killary's emails and Hunter's laptop! Putin was helping President Donald J. Trump, blessed be his name, uncover the Satanic evil of the God-hating bi-coastal Communist traitors in the White House!

We support the LGBTQ Community!

by Anonymousreply 7505/05/2021

[Quote] You can be fined, arrested, banned from flying

Cool. Better yet, require an ID and vaccination cert to book a ticket.

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