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Now this is a surprise. Who'd a thunk?

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by Anonymousreply 3705/07/2021


by Anonymousreply 105/04/2021

What's weird is that the article states - oh, these are just Chinese Americans who are also anti-communist. Nah - these are people most likely working on the behalf of the Chinese government.

by Anonymousreply 205/04/2021

And they are all too stupid to pick up on that face R2

by Anonymousreply 305/04/2021

"The Proud Boys are a very attractive place for men of any ethnic background who are part of a toxic masculinity," Ho said. "Because what they share is a fundamental belief in their maleness — a fundamental belief that U.S. society has gone off the rails."

by Anonymousreply 405/04/2021

I suppose there are extremely stupid people of every race, but who in their right mind would think Joe Biden was a front for Commies?

by Anonymousreply 505/04/2021

Stupid Q people, r5.

by Anonymousreply 605/04/2021

Exactly, R2. I'm tired of the media trotting out some so-called expert to say something like this. They did it with the Russian election interference, too, some expert would say "Oh well, just because they hacked voter registration websites doesn't mean they DID anything" and try to gloss over what most certainly occurred.

Same here. The Rebecca Kwan quoted in the article could be anyone. At least the president of the Association for Asian American Studies said that the appeal was that the Proud Boys tapped into old-fashioned gender roles, which I'm sure is true, but not the entire story.

by Anonymousreply 705/04/2021

There was a lot of work done in the Florida Latino community to make voters think Biden was pro Communism, and it seemed to work.

Propaganda works, that's why people use it. Of course Biden isn't a Communist but if you look up "Biden is a Communist," you find tons of rightwing "news" websites with stories saying he is.

by Anonymousreply 805/04/2021

Not Chinese. This is a set up by Vlad Putin. He is behind this 100%. Chinese gov isn't that stupid.

by Anonymousreply 905/04/2021

Someone in China was talking about the Hunter Biden hard drives months before the laptop showed up in Rudy's grubby little hands. It was Guo Wengui I think, a pal of Steve Bannon's and someone who has ties to the Chinese government. I think there's some cooperation between Russia and China going on.

by Anonymousreply 1005/04/2021

The Proud Boys are exactly the type of thugs to randomly target Asian-American people to harass, abuse, and assault.

I think most Asian immigrants in America are aware of this and don't believe they're funding them.

by Anonymousreply 1105/04/2021

This is called "rediection" when "they" tell you someone else is doing something. Some people can be so stupid. Putin is messing with China, messing with us, causing chaos. He does not want us and the Chinese getting along. This is high stakes. I hope people will think about this and be sensible.

by Anonymousreply 1205/04/2021

Exactly. THink about it. Attacking Asians is not something China would do. It's something Putin would do. PBs belong to Vlad.

by Anonymousreply 1305/04/2021

[quote] Of note, the reports states, is the fact that more than 80 percent of the money that came through the Proud Boys' GoSendGo crowdfunding page came from contributors with Chinese surnames.

Very interesting.

by Anonymousreply 1405/04/2021

[quote] I think there's some cooperation between Russia and China going on.

Hm… 🤔

by Anonymousreply 1505/04/2021

Nope. they absolutely compete. Putin used his Intel agents, who claimed that the PBs would fight communism....they hit that theme with a focus the anti- Communist Chinese community in the U.S. Those people got played, even as PBs and QAnon led attacks on Asians.

by Anonymousreply 1605/04/2021

Look. Under Putin Russia's economy is in the shitter and all he and his oligarchs care about is the power that comes from owning and controlling all the rights to oil, gas and minerals. Europe depends on being able to buy those things from him. He is reputed to be the richest man in the world. Yes. He does very little governing. He prefers to rule like the old days...of the Tsars.

This is a far cry from China. I don't agree with China 's human rights abuses. But China has a real government. They are stable, and they have a growing economy. We borrow from China. Yes. Chinese banks hold our paper. And China is investing billions in building infrastructure in developing countries. Xi would prefer to get along with Putin, but he doesn't like him or trust him. He prefers stability. Putin loves chaos.

Biden was very clear when he said China was our competitor, not an adversary. Putin stands to gain if he can promote hostility towards China by us. Think about it. Proud Boys (Roger Stone's army) and QAnon have been promoting anti Chinese sentiment and promoting these attacks on Asians...and then you have these "donations" to Proud Boys from "Anti Communist" Asian donors?

Shit. That's a play right out of Gordon Liddy's Watergate play book.(Stone is a Nixon fan.) Hell, when the judge at his at his burglary arraignment asked Liddy what he did for a living he described himself as "Anti Communist." Trump, Flynn, Bannon and Stone have a strategy right now and their cronies in Congress are helping. That strategy is to create chaos, racial violence, and block Biden's agenda. They want him to fail. The forces behind Trump and the Insurrection have not given up. Things will get worse as 2022 approaches. We need to be ready.

by Anonymousreply 1705/04/2021

that's silly

by Anonymousreply 1805/04/2021

The spouse of a sitting SC judge funded transportation for the terrorists of 01/06/21.

This judge hasn't the integrity or even the intellect to resign.

by Anonymousreply 1905/04/2021

Clarence Thomas's wife is a supporter of the Big Lie too. She raised money I think.

by Anonymousreply 2005/04/2021

Found this on Twitter today from someone who ws in Washington, D.C.:

"I had a cab driver today. Told him I was at the Capitol." It was a coup" he said. He said he was in Romania for the 1989 coup.. How did they do it? "The Russians" he said, "disinformation on media, accusing others of what they were doing. EXACTLY what happened with Trump"

by Anonymousreply 2105/05/2021

The Epoch Times and Falun Gong are a notable part of the propaganda machine for Trump and QAnon.

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by Anonymousreply 2205/05/2021

I knew that shen yun was creepy

by Anonymousreply 2305/06/2021

The guy in NY is a Russian plant, and maybe not even a deliberate one. He links the pandemic to the evil Communist Empire and at the same time the Republican Party (now the party of Putin) is promoting the evil Communist/Socialist Joe Biden. LOL! It is remarkably Roger Stonish and laughable ...except that many are buying it. The government of mainland China has its enemies among the Asian people, and as with America, Putin exploits all these weaknesses.

by Anonymousreply 2405/06/2021

You know what's real crime here? That Matt Anscher is off his meds and harassing us again with his crazed rants.

by Anonymousreply 2505/06/2021

"Prosecutors cited Mr. Biggs's social media posts from before Jan. 6 in a motion last week to revoke his pretrial release and jail him. In one post, two days after the presidential election, Mr. Biggs wrote that it was time for "war", using an expletive.

The government says Mr. Biggs's pre-riot posts "show a discernible trend: declaring the election results to be fraudulent; encouraging others to 'fight' to overcome the alleged fraud; and encouraging his followers to assist him in fighting the alleged fraud, including by donating funds and equipment to their effort.

Mr. Biggs announced the Proud Boys' plans to come to Washington on Jan. 6 on the social network Parler on Dec. 29. "We will be blending in as one of you. You won't see us," he posted, adding, "Jan. 6th is gonna be epic."

by Anonymousreply 2605/06/2021

The Russians" he said, "disinformation on media, accusing others of what they were doing. EXACTLY what happened with Trump"

Indeed. It’s diversion, deflection, and disinformation. Anything the gop and trump accuse the Dems of, you can be sure it’s what they are up to.

by Anonymousreply 2705/06/2021

Do we know the contributors are actually Americans?

by Anonymousreply 2805/06/2021

No. .

by Anonymousreply 2905/06/2021

[quote]You know what's real crime here? That Matt Anscher is off his meds and harassing us again with his crazed rants.

Which posts, R25?

by Anonymousreply 3005/06/2021

Sorry, wrong thread, R30. It's easy to make mistakes when his verbal diarrhea starts shortcircuiting your brain...

by Anonymousreply 3105/06/2021

[quote] Attacking Asians is not something China would do.

They would, though.

by Anonymousreply 3205/06/2021

Asians in America are considered traitors for leaving

by Anonymousreply 3305/06/2021

My Nephew married a Chinese girl. Mainland China. Her parents have been here for visits. Her mother came here and stayed for 6 months when she had her baby. They came for Christmas and bought all of us thoughtful gifts. Nothing expensive, but Tea, and candies and some lovely jade for the daughter and the American grandmother. They are lovely, kind, and very likable. I met them when they came for the wedding reception, and for the Christmas visit. They loved Obama, could not stand Trump.

Look. Every country has it's issues, problems, factions, etc. Obviously the Asians who move here and become citizens are looking for a better life, and they are often "anti-Communists." They have fled a repressive regime for any number of reasons. The main point I am tying to make in my posts is that China doesn't want to overthrow our government. Russia does. Russia wants chaos, and oligarchy. Do the Chinese spy on us? Yes. Just like our corporations spy on one another, and we spy on the Chinese to stay on top of developments in tech.

Eve since the 1940s, post WW II Europeans who fled the Communist take over in the Soviet Union were "anti-Communist," and ended up helping to build the foundation of the Conservative movement here in the United States. We certainly had rich ground for them to lay that foundation, what with Nazi lovers like Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh and others. Ford and others demonized the American Labor Union movement out of self interest, labelling them communists/socialists and everything else they could throw in the pot. They called FDR a Socialist and an enemy of capitalism, when he was in fact, the savior of American Capitalism.

Post WW II, Russia has been about disruption and chaos and world domination. The late 40's and the 50's ae vey important. Read and study. China shares a border with Russia. They have neve been allies o easy with one another. China knows Russia will disrupt and exploit its weaknesses and domestic political issues. No matte how righteous the cause, whether it is BLM or the protests in Hong Kong, the invisible hand of Putin is always hovering trying to add fuel to the fires.

Right now China is doing a much more effective job of distributing vaccines to developing nations and counties who can't afford it. They are building infrastructure all over Africa and the Pacific Rim nations. irrigation systems, clean water, etc. roads, bridges, and power grids. In America, ever since Reagan, we have been scaling back on how we engage foreign nations. And the Putin Republicans push to weaken and isolate us further. Russia do not want to see American and Asian cooperation. Putin hated the Asian Pacific Alliance and Trade agreements Obama was tying to put together. Now we suddenly have "conservative " Chinese ex pats here funding Proud Boys? Please.

by Anonymousreply 3405/07/2021

I'll take "fake Chinese names to cover up Russian funding" for $400, Alex.

by Anonymousreply 3505/07/2021

Not surprising. Everything far right conservatives spew is to the benefit of China. For instance, the more Americans they can convince to not wear masks, not get vaccines, not quarantine, the more dead Americans they get, and that weakens America and by default strengthens China’s global position. It’s all right there. But Republicans were never the brightest bulbs in the bunch.

by Anonymousreply 3605/07/2021

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by Anonymousreply 3705/07/2021
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