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Elizabeth Warren: Democratic party was reluctant to nominate a woman in 2020

“ In a new book, the Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren suggests part of the reason for her failure in the race for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination lay in the party’s reluctance to nominate another woman

“I had to run against the shadows of Martha and Hillary,” Warren writes in Persist, which will be published on Tuesday, the Washington Post reported

Hillary Clinton, a former New York senator and secretary of state, lost the 2016 presidential election to Donald Trump.

Martha Coakley, an attorney general of Massachusetts, lost a 2010 election for a US Senate seat long held by Ted Kennedy, to Scott Brown, and a 2014 gubernatorial election to Charlie Baker.

Both women started as favourites but suffered losses which dealt crushing blows to Democrats on the national stage. Warren led the 2020 Democratic primary early on. In her book, the Post said, she repeats a conversation with her husband, Bruce Mann, who said: “Babe, you could actually do this. You could be president.” Warren also writes about she imagined her inauguration.

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by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 153Last Saturday at 4:30 AM

Yes, we would, as long as she wasn’t a lying racist white bitch like you.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 105/02/2021

She should thank her lucky stars she didn't get nominated. Trump would have taunted her throughout the campaign and then beaten her.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 205/02/2021

I like her a lot, but I don’t think she was in control of her own destiny in that campaign. Bernie’s people were all in for him, so she needed him to stumble. I thought maybe the heart attack would do it, but he stayed in. As the campaign went on, she became increasingly desperate, and decided to try to distinguish herself by going hard left on social issues. It backfired, and that was the end for her. But she played an important role at the end when she cut Bloomberg’s throat and ended his campaign on that debate stage in Nevada.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 305/02/2021

A statement from the Toronto Trans Collective

[quote]The Toronto Trans Collective has previously welcomed Elizabeth Warren's support for trans people, including her proposal to delegate her selection of Education Secretary to a trans child. The Toronto Trans Collective is, however, distressed to read Elizabeth Warren centering her identity as a cisgender woman as her failure to win the nomination from the Democrats for the presidency. Elizabeth Warren is not a trans woman, will never be a trans woman, and even if she walks a mile in a trans woman's shoes she will never know what it is like to be a trans woman, even if she gets a blister or verruca. Denying the existence of trans people is an act of extreme violence and Elizabeth Warren should know better.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 405/02/2021

She is trans. She's trans-racial.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 505/02/2021

The ONLY concern I had for 2020 was that the Democratic nominee had the highest likelihood of beating cheeto.

That Warren has to opine, complain, or point out hesitancy to nominate a woman is EXACTLY what they shouldn't have nominated a woman if there were ANY question about beating cheeto.

I simply don't care whether the nominee was a70 year old white guy if he had the best chance of beating cheeto. PERIOD.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 605/02/2021

They did nominate a worman: Kamala Harris. Everyone knows Joe Biden will not finish out his term.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 705/02/2021

Not wrong. Democrats will continue to slide right to appease nervous nellies that believe healthcare and a living wage are omg socialism! Then play dumb when they lose elections because both sides are the same.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 805/02/2021

R6 graduated with honors "racial slurs are ok when Republicans are on the receiving end" school of debate.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 905/02/2021

from the

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 1005/02/2021

She alienated the wine cave voter bloc at a critical juncture.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 1105/02/2021

Karens didn't come out for their queen Hillary so what makes you think they'd come out for the crown princess?

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 1205/02/2021

mSNBC and CNN had news programs that for months at a time were essentially Elizabeth Warren for President I infomercials and had the backing of powerful people like Barrack Obama. Her ass was kissed in editorials across the country and The NYT and every other newspaper in the country endorsed her.

And she couldn’t even come second in one single state. Let alone win one.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 1305/02/2021

I'm really going to need people to stop acting like Warren's biggest issue was sexism.

Warren's biggest issue was her lack of political skills, which led to her not creating her own plan on healthcare, campaigning the least in black states, and the whole DNA issue.

Nobody would try to tackle Pete Buttigieg, who is a fierce debater, on high-dollar fundraisers when there is literally photos of you doing the exact same fundraisers.

She thought bc he was a small-town mayor, he was easy prey. Instead, she placed lower than him in every state

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 1405/02/2021

[quote] The Toronto Trans Collective has previously welcomed Elizabeth Warren's support for trans people, including her proposal to delegate her selection of Education Secretary to a trans child. The Toronto Trans Collective is, however, distressed to read Elizabeth Warren centering her identity as a cisgender woman as her failure to win the nomination from the Democrats for the presidency. Elizabeth Warren is not a trans woman, will never be a trans woman, and even if she walks a mile in a trans woman's shoes she will never know what it is like to be a trans woman, even if she gets a blister or verruca. Denying the existence of trans people is an act of extreme violence and Elizabeth Warren should know better.

I'm sorry, was this a joke? What the fuck does it mean?

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 1505/02/2021

Maybe they just didn’t want a woman who said she’d let a teenage tranny pick her cabinet members for her?

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 1605/02/2021

Seeing her cut up Bloomberg was hysterical though. I bet she doesn't think about it that often but I bet he is holding on to a grudge.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 1705/02/2021

[quote][R6] graduated with honors "racial slurs are ok when Republicans are on the receiving end" school of debate.

Um, what racial slurs? Which rethugs were on what receiving end?

People really need to learn basic reading skills. Calling Biden a 70 year old white guy is in context to the claim that there was reluctance to nominate a woman - they went with a more traditional and uncontroversial choice - not the gay guy, not the woman, not the angry white guy "progressive".

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 1805/02/2021

R2 I tend to agree. Just look at the unforced error of her publishing her DNA test.

I did love her brutal smackdown of Bloomberg, though.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 1905/02/2021

Chief sitting bull embarrassed herself towards the end of the primary. She came across as incredibly desperate and was willing to say anything.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 2005/02/2021

Sadly, the Dems needed a white man and a minority/black woman to win this election. I predicted it long before the election.

That’s what the Dems did and they won.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 2105/02/2021

Warren was an extraordinary candidate, full of energy. She electrified her audiences with great ideas.

America just isn’t ready for her

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 2205/02/2021

“ The Toronto Trans Collective has previously welcomed Elizabeth Warren's support for trans people, including her proposal to delegate her selection of Education Secretary to a trans child”

The trans child picking a education secretary thing will never fail to make me lmao. Who the hell was advising her?

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 2305/02/2021

So it has nothing to do with the fact that she’s a racist, pathological liar and an insane, woke bitch.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 2405/02/2021

She had the same problem as Hillary. Desperate to get the job, but zero personality.

When she debuted her "at home with Liz Warren" video, it was like something from Mad TV. She runs to the refrigerator to get herself a beer. "I'm just gonna get me a beer." Her husband wanders in and looks like he doesn't know what's going on and then she THANKS him for being there...in his own home! Her PR people should have been honest and told her that she lost the election then and there.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 2505/02/2021

She comes across as a mean librarian. She was quite clearly the smartest person who was running but that doesn’t mean much. She has little speak outside of the Northeast Acela corridor.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 2605/02/2021

R22 I don’t really think we elect presidents for ideas, but for personality.

If she’s an idea person, the Senate is ostensibly a better place for her.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 2705/02/2021

R25 Lol! I remember watching that and people here were commenting she might as well had "cracked open the bottle with her teeth" and "slapped her husband's ass" to show how relatable she was.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 2805/02/2021

R25 well you’re half right. Hillary had both poise and smarts and wiped the floor with Trump in every debate. If it weren’t for Comey and too many stupid people, she would have won.

Warren would have won about as many states as Dukakis. She’s a shrill librarian.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 2905/02/2021

[quote] well you’re half right. Hillary had both poise and smarts and wiped the floor with Trump in every debate.

Fake news. The only part of the three debates that anyone even remembers is Trump telling Hillary that she’d be in jail.

But he kicked her ass in all three of them. It was pretty glorious.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 3005/02/2021

"Both sides are the same."

Really? Did Repugs vote to give you that $1,400 check you just got? Did they extend unemployment benefits? Are they proposing voting rights legislation? Did Biden rescind Trump's ban of flying the rainbow flag on US embassies?

Yeah - the same, uh-huh.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 3105/02/2021

R31, Nancy Pelosi famously said the $600 stimulus check in January was “satisfactory”. It wasn’t until Trump spoke up that she changed her mind. The original plan she was backing up didn’t even include the $600 at all.

She is nasty and corrupt.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 3205/02/2021

R13, please present links. I don't know what you are smoking, but Warren was erased. She came in 3rd in Iowa, Biden was barely a blip on the radar and NO ONE WOULD MENTION her performance in MSM.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 3305/02/2021

OMG this bitch. Too bad they aren't more trans children voters in the primary, hey?

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 3405/02/2021

R4 this is gold satire, love it.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 3505/02/2021

[quote] Did Repugs vote to give you that $1,400 check you just got?

To be fair, Biden campaigned on $2,000, then only gave $1,400 but try to include Trump’s $600 as money he gave to total $2,000.

I just received a letter from Biden perpetuating that lie. Democrats can’t take the high road when they are lying through their teeth.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 3605/02/2021

Doesn’t Pocahontas have some billionaires to talk about?

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 3705/02/2021

R33, Nobody talked about her performance because she had epic failures in every state. She got a super pac after attacking other candidates for using them and the media didn’t say a thing about the blatant hypocrisy it wouldn’t go unchecked for others. She got declared the winner of every single debate by the pundits other than the one in June they declared Kamala the winner.

Biden wasn’t a blip? That’s not true. The media always made a big deal about how he would recover in South Carolina. T

The media was still rooting for her until the very end and had a day of mourning when she dropped out. I watched CNN as they had one woman on after the other to cry and talk about how legendary her run was as if she was the first woman to fail in a primary.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 3805/02/2021

No one is "acting" anything R14. She has written a book. If you don't like what she has to say, don't read it. And by the way Buttigieg couldn't debate his way out of a box. He totally failed with the a Black family, whose son was killed by a white cop in his town when he was mayor. He's a grifter who was made Transportation Secretary as a political gift, not because he has the slightest qualifications. He'll never win a statewide election and, like Blanche Dubois, he'll always depend on the kindness of strangers.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 3905/02/2021

I liked her for about 5 min. last year. Then her fake, whispery televangelist voice and rudeness repelled me.

Joe wasn't very good in debates and made people doubt him. But in hindsight he was the only choice all along.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 4005/02/2021

She'd have probably lost to Trump. There is just something crabby and mean about her demeanor. She reminds you of that awful Algebra teacher you had.

The country was in crisis. They needed a calming presence not someone who reminded them of some nun who hit them with a ruler.

(notice how Kamala remade herself into the fun Veep to win over people and not the stern senator who interrogated Kavanaugh. People need to like the person they vote for.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 4105/02/2021

A real leader takes responsibility for their failures, they don't blame everyone else. Taking credit for just the wins and foisting the losses off onto others is pathetic and immature. She and the former guy have that in common.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 4205/02/2021

She did get caught in a bunch of lies, not just the Native American thing.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 4305/02/2021

They were reluctant to nominate an old scold like her is more like it. During last years Democratic debates she focused on Little Mikey Bloomberg's NDAs (non disclosure agreements) instead of discussing issues the country was concerned about including the then impending pandemic.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 4405/02/2021

She is far more qualified than Hillbilly Mayor Pete. Plus she didn't create a SuperPAC to enrich herself--like Pete has...

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 4505/02/2021

Yeah, yeah, yeah: woulda, coulda, shoulda.

Honey, you ran for the nomination, and you lost. Get over it, and go do your highly-paid and highly prestigious job.

I'm sorry, but there are some people for whom the sympathy just runs dry.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 4605/02/2021

R45 Being more qualified than Pete isn't impressive.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 4705/02/2021

She’s so much more qualified yet he outdid her by all metrics. And he did it with the media and the internet’s boot on his neck unlike miss Warren.

She should go back to lawyering for evil corps and leave politics alone.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 4805/02/2021

What I don't understand is why Dianne Feinstein didn't run in 2020.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 4905/02/2021

Maybe because she is 87 r49.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 5005/02/2021

R4 Is that from the Onion?

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 5105/02/2021

She's more proof that white women are spoiled, entitled bitches. This is why this country will put a Black man and a Black woman in charge of it before they ever let some nasty, spoiled, entitled ofay bitch anywhere near the Oval Office. And that's a good thing.

White women cost Black women the right to vote for at least 60 years.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 5205/02/2021

There will be plenty of female Presidents and vice-Presidents in the years to come. Not a single, solitary one will be white.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 5305/02/2021

R52

Black women had the right to vote under the Constitution since 1920. White women did not put Jim Crow era voting restrictions into place, you complete moron.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 5405/02/2021

Black men got the right to vote first.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 5505/02/2021

That video was so off-putting, r25. It was clearly rehearsed within an inch of its life, and it was still terrible.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 5605/02/2021

R52 I’d prefer to strip all women of the right to vote, but I’d settle for just white women losing it.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 5705/02/2021

Just read a few threads here in DL and you’ll quickly see how “friendly” men are toward women in general. Sexism plays a role in every election with women just as race/ethnicity does, etc. Women and minorities are seen as token members of their group while White men arent, because they are seen as the default. Science backs this up in hiring practices, etc etc etc.

With that said, there are multiple factors at play, sexism being one of them, and Warren’s anti-corporation stance another.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 5805/02/2021

Her folksy talk would crack me up with all the concern about the mommas, and the papas, and the baybuhs, and the memaws, and the grandpaps....

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 5905/02/2021

[quote] Everyone knows Joe Biden will not finish out his term.

He will.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 6005/02/2021

He will die in office…

decades from now after term limits are repealed so he can be President for Life.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 6105/02/2021

She was TOO WOKE.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 6205/02/2021

She came in 3rd in Massachusetts, don't blame that on your gender. Her issue was that she reeked of Harvard professor and dems knew that was not a recipe for success in 2020.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 6305/02/2021

[quote] Doesn’t Pocahontas have some billionaires to talk about?

I thought she would prefer to sing it.

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by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 6405/02/2021

Is warren on any committee? Heading anything?

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 6505/02/2021

She can't even sell butter anymore since Land-O-Lakes fired her as their mascot!

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 6605/02/2021

She is deluded if she thinks that's the primary cause. She doesn't really know herself. She's a great class warrior, but she is also disingenuous and EVERYONE senses its.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 6705/02/2021

[quote]Is warren on any committee? Heading anything?

She's on the Committee on Banking, Housing & Urban Affairs.

She's on the Committee on Finance.

She's on the Special Committee on Aging.

She's on the Committee on Armed Services.

And she's on Subcommittee's for Airland, Personnel and finally Strategic Forces.

The only thing I can say about Datalounge and other's opinions on her is that at least no one doubted that she was good at anything related to Finance.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 6805/02/2021

She was too school teacher like. Not the good one that you remember all your life, but the one that always scolded you.

That's why she didn't win.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 6905/02/2021

She’s a treasure.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 7005/02/2021

She had plans for literally everything. She was left of Bernie but could actually pay for it. But apparently her voice makes dude's dicks fall off

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 7105/03/2021

She lost because she got sick with wokeness. Furthermore, she refused to explain how she would pay for healthcare plan. I agree with whoever said she was desperate. Even when she knew the walls were closing in, she bragged about taking $5.00 from a broke college student to finance her doomed ambitions. She’s really hypocritical too. She says she’s anti millionaires and billionaires but they’re the reason she got elected to the Senate.

When all else fails, blame sexism or Trump. Similarly, Kamala knew she was doomed in October 2019 and pulled out the race and gender cards.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 7205/03/2021

The only good thing about her campaign was that she stayed in the race an extra day or two after Super Tuesday and that’s how Biden luckily got the nomination.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 7305/03/2021

She was the smartest candidate who ran but she was just too woke and too fake. Whoever came up with that campaign announcement video should be killed. Because of that video, her campaign was over before it even started.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 7405/03/2021

She's not smarter than Pete.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 7505/03/2021

She made the excellent point that the Secretary of Education should be someone who had worked in the public school system, but no one remembers that because she immediately followed it up with the ridiculous 'trans child' thing (in front of a bunch of Iowa hausfraus? How many transkids could there possibly be in Iowa anyway?).

She constantly, [italic]constantly[/italic] got in her own way and it was so frustrating to watch. It also had nothing to do with Mayor Pete, so it beggars belief why the Warrenistas are still so bitter towards Buttigieg.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 7605/03/2021

I’m not a big fan of Warren but I’ll take her any day of the week over our dumb cunt Vice President.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 7705/03/2021

I just couldn't resist.

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by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 7805/03/2021

While she’s way smarter than Kamala, they had similar trajectories. They both had non stop media cheerleading but had image/personality problems. They both came across as too woke, bitchy, and disingenuous. Furthermore, they failed miserably in the primaries and couldn’t even win or place strongly in their home states.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 7905/03/2021

Elizabeth Warren's undoing was Elizabeth Warren. She had a plan for everything except for having a plan for everything. She really started to unravel when Stephen Colbert pressed her for the details on her healthcare plan and she didn't have any.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 8005/03/2021

[quote]She had plans for literally everything. She was left of Bernie but could actually pay for it.

She couldn’t actually pay for it. She always pivoted when she was asked for details.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 8105/03/2021

[quote]Similarly, Kamala knew she was doomed in October 2019 and pulled out the race and gender cards.

Kamala was smart to get out of the race early in December 2019, before any primaries. She didn’t end up as battered as some of the hangers-on like Warren, Bootyjudge, and Klobuchar.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 8205/03/2021

R78 ugh it’s so cringey. I get second hand embarrassment and can’t finish it.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 8305/03/2021

[quote] She's not smarter than Pete.

Of course not, heterosexuals are inferior to homosexuals and that's a fact.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 8405/03/2021

That beer video made me cringe. She didn't even know how to drink beer from a bottle (looked like baby Maggie from the Simpsons). Sigh. So fake. Then, nobody asked, but she brought up her DNA test, "proving" that she was Native American. Those two things made me wonder who she really is and what she was really about.

She was her own worst enemy.

I do think she was judged more harshly because she was a woman.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 8505/03/2021

White women are to blame for racism and misogyny because women of every other race suffer for their stupidity, pettiness, and outright criminal behavior.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 8605/03/2021

Warren had the same problem Hillary did, something everyone in a corporate job is well aware of: the smartest person in the room rarely makes the best CEO.

Warren is great in the Senate where she can enact policy--that is her strength. She was not particularly relatable to anyone with a high school or bachelor's degree and still comes off like a professor at a particularly stodgy but prestigious liberal arts college.

Her background--growing up working class in Oklahoma, single mom working her way through college--might have counted for something if you could see traces of it in her personality, but that was not the case.

She's best off in her current job as Senator, it's where she can do the most good.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 8705/03/2021

I guess she has to justify losing the nomination any way she can, but the real reason is obviously because people had had sufficient of screaming, mad, overly-woke, socialist candidates, including Bernie.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 8805/03/2021

Billionaires can buy Bernie and did.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 8905/03/2021

Her campaign announcement video was cringe inducing. I wish female candidates (hell, all candidates) would stop with the fake personas. They try to be too nice. I know the reasons why they do this. I know they get told by their staffers that the mid-west moms and the blue collar men can't handle a woman with a strong personality. But if Warren had conducted herself with deadly seriousness, a la Merkel, she might have had a chance. Especially after he who shall not be named, people were looking for an adult to take the reins. People can smell a phony a mile away.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 9005/03/2021

Just try and imagine Warren or Bernie as president, putting forward the same programs Biden just did.

Exactly.

Civil war.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 9105/03/2021

There should be 50 Civil Wars going on right now in solidarity with the victims of amerikkkan terrorism.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 9205/03/2021

[quote] But if Warren had conducted herself with deadly seriousness, a la Merkel, she might have had a chance.

Hmm ... I agree. Interesting point.

IMO, Warren is so self-conscious and is at least somewhat fake. She doesn't even know who she is.

I struggle as well to "be myself."

Warren did appear to the the healthiest, physically. Aside from Pete and maybe Yang.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 9305/03/2021

Elizabeth Warren always looked shifty - like the person who knows whodunnit when you're playing a game of CLUE.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 9405/03/2021

"She had a plan for everything."

...except for winning the presidency, or even placing better than third in her own friggin state, apparently. GREAT PLANNING SKILLS, Liz.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 9505/03/2021

R87: She’s actually passed very little legislation as a senator. Even the Democrats can’t really stand her.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 9605/03/2021

She was the sole senator who waited until the primaries were over to endorse Hillary in '16, long after Sanders had no mathematical chance to overtake Hillary. She supported Sanders when he said "me and my supporters may choose not to vote for Secretary Clinton should she win the nomination."

Warren and Sanders were a factor in Trump winning and all the damage that came from it.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 9705/03/2021

[quote] She supported Sanders when he said "me and my supporters may choose not to vote for Secretary Clinton should she win the nomination."

Could you post a link on that, please?

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 9805/03/2021

Warren never supported Sanders in 2016, which is why the Bernie Bros still harbor resentment towards her. I believe she endorsed Clinton prior to the Massachusetts primary held on Super Tuesday. The Bros believe this endorsement delivered Mass and Super Tuesday to Clinton.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 9905/03/2021

Sorry, Warren didn't endorse anyone until June when she endorsed Clinton. Bros hated her for not endorsing Bernie and then "selling out" by endorsing Clinton prior to the convention.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 10005/03/2021

The only reason she didn’t endorse Sanders is because she wanted to stay on the party elites’ good side in preparation for her presidential run. People like Obama never would have raised funds for her if she had betrayed Clinton.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 10105/03/2021

Note the date:

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by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 10205/03/2021

We haven't had a good fight over the 99 Reasons Hillary Lost in a several months now!!

I believe Warren's late endorsement is Reason #65.

Carry On!!

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 10305/03/2021

I see she’s taking a page out of Crooked Hillary’s book: blame anyone and everything except yourself.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 10405/03/2021

[quote]Warren and Sanders were a factor in Trump winning and all the damage that came from it.

Oh, dear.

Jill Stein, James Comey, Obama withholding info on Russian interference, Sanders and Hillary herself were much bigger factors than anything you're imagining Warren (who no one was checking for back then) did or didn't do.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 10505/03/2021

There are some great women who could be presidents one day soon, Amy Klobuchar, Stacey Abrams, Val Demings. Not so sure about Kamala anymore, she wasn't impressive in the primaries. Warren isn't president material, she just isn't. She's a phony and a bloody opportunist who talks out of both sides of her mouth. Why is she complaining anyway, Bernie told her that women can't be president and she was kissing up to him right till the end. Just go away Liz!

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 10605/03/2021

Black voters didn’t like her. Plain and simple. I wouldn’t want to call black folk sexist if I were her.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 10705/03/2021

The funniest thing about R102 's picture is the "Hon." in front of Hillary's name.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 10805/04/2021

r105 Like I said, Sanders and Warren were *a* factor. The press was reporting on Warren's delayed endorsement and Sanders' lukewarm not-quite endorsement. Sanders, after losing the MI primary, "My supporters and I may choose to not vote for Secretary Clinton if she wins the nomination." Now the country is in tatters and Russia almost toppled the US government all thanks to Donald Trump.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 10905/04/2021

Donald Trump almost toppled the country, that's true, but Hillary's loss belongs right on her own doorstep.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 11005/04/2021

[quote]Donald Trump almost toppled the country, that's true, but Hillary's loss belongs right on her own doorstep.

Bernie Sanders played a role in undermining her. He continued to campaign against her long after she became the nominee.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 11105/04/2021

She should’ve taken a page out of Kamala’s book: you don’t want to be the last one to leave the party. Once Gabbard started attacking Kamala’s past as a prosecutor, it was all over for her. She never got out of the single digits and her fundraising was shot. She was smart to drop out when she did. Pocahontas should’ve dropped out before 2020 to preserve her chance of getting picked as someone’s VP.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 11205/04/2021

She posted a video of her giving a wrapped burrito to her dog. Whenever she tries to come across as normal and relatable, it’s just so disingenuous. All politicians lie but whenever she’s pressed on policy details she just lies and evades.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 11305/04/2021

She's so yesterday news.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 11405/04/2021

WTF is "reluctant to nominate a woman"? There was a primary election and the winner of each state get the election vote. You lost then you got no vote. I think what she meant is ," DNC didn't rig the election for me".

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 11505/04/2021

She spins and evades on everything she says.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 116Last Wednesday at 7:33 AM

She didn't get nominated simply because as a person she was/is too annoying.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 117Last Wednesday at 5:10 PM

She should have just embraced that she’s a Harvard professor who was smarter than everybody else on the debate stage. Instead she tried to act all folksy and down-home, and it came off as incredibly fake.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 118Last Thursday at 3:42 AM

Joe was a safe bet. He'd win back the people we needed. Now, LOL! He's governing from the Left. He should have put Elizabeth in his cabinet, except she can be too inflexible. Also, I think when her brother died it took a lot out of her. She seemed to step back.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 119Last Thursday at 4:12 AM

She’s a liar and a cunt. Why she complain? She lie and make um heap wampum.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 120Last Thursday at 4:13 AM

R119 tye governor of Massachusetts is a republican and would appoint a republican replacement until an election. So she was probably never considered for a position.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 121Last Thursday at 7:51 AM

Smart accomplished women scare Americans.

That’s why they come up with shit like “She isn’t relatable.” Etc

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 122Last Thursday at 2:46 PM

[Quote] She’s a liar and a cunt. Why she complain? She lie and make um heap wampum.

She never lied. That’s all Republican BS

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 123Last Thursday at 2:46 PM

Her ideas would have moved America forward economically and health wise.

Instead we’re going to keep fighting about healthcare and tax cuts for the next 30’years

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 124Last Thursday at 2:47 PM

[Quote] She spins and evades on everything she says

Give us one Example. Just one

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 125Last Thursday at 2:48 PM

[Quote] All politicians lie but whenever she’s pressed on policy details she just lies and evades.

Give me one example. Just one

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 126Last Thursday at 2:48 PM

[Quote] Donald Trump almost toppled the country, that's true, but Hillary's loss belongs right on her own doorstep.

No, it belongs at Russia’s doorstep.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 127Last Thursday at 2:49 PM

[Quote] I see she’s taking a page out of Crooked Hillary’s book: blame anyone and everything except yourself.

The Russian trolls have taken over this thread

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 128Last Thursday at 2:50 PM

R124, her “ideas” would not do anything. Her grand “ideas” all required her to be elected and then pass laws. The first is a stretch, since she never even beat a Democrat. The second is next to impossible. I’m not seeing Joe Manchin overturning the filibuster to pass a wealth tax.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 129Last Thursday at 3:56 PM

Democrats have a real problem with women. Real women. Not the pretend.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 130Last Thursday at 3:59 PM

R130 is correct. At least the Republicans are honest about it. Democrats hide their misogyny behinds all kinds of pathetic mistrust. It's not just Warren they have a problem with, it's all women.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 131Last Thursday at 4:08 PM

But they sure love men that wear dresses and wigs.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 132Last Thursday at 4:09 PM

R125, her healthcare plan for one. He spin and evasion on that was documented.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 133Last Thursday at 4:11 PM

Oops, r133 was meant for R126.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 134Last Thursday at 4:12 PM

No, it was meant for r124!

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 135Last Thursday at 4:18 PM

[quote]Democrats hide their misogyny

Well—not really. Women here are called “cunts” and lesbians are called “dykes”. They’re not called “women” or “lesbians”.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 136Last Thursday at 4:19 PM

No, r135. It was R126. You mad there's an example?

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 137Last Thursday at 4:21 PM

[quote] Democrats will continue to slide right

You must be posting from an alternate universe. The Dems have not been "sliding right". Not sure how anyone could reach this conclusion.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 138Last Thursday at 4:38 PM

[quote] She had the same problem as Hillary. Desperate to get the job, but zero personality.

Hillary does have a personality and you can see it in her documentary. Warren seems like an old professor on and off screen.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 139Last Thursday at 4:40 PM

STFU Liz. It's you nobody likes. You came in THIRD in the Democratic primary in Massachusetts. You came in 4th in the primaries of the states where you lived the longest: Oklahoma and Texas. To know you is to hate you apparently.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 140Last Thursday at 4:45 PM

[quote] Women here are called “cunts” and lesbians are called “dykes”. They’re not called “women” or “lesbians”.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the males on here calling women dykes while crying about homophobia in the same breath. What a joke they are.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 141Last Thursday at 4:45 PM

Warren had many flaws, but what ultimately doomed her campaign was her stubborn insistence on Medicare for All and her stubborn refusal to say whether she would raise taxes to pay for it. She had to know she would face that question, and she didn't have an answer. It was obvious to everyone that she was evading the question.

A typical exchange from the debates:

MODERATOR: Sen. Warren, you support Medicare for all. How much will it cost, and will you have to raise taxes to pay for it?

WARREN: Let me tell you about a single mother I met in Iowa who works two jobs and still can't afford to see a doctor ...

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 142Last Thursday at 4:50 PM

[quote] Hillary does have a personality and you can see it in her documentary.

Lol. Who gives a shit about her documentary? Hillary is fine when she is not expected to perform. But on the debate stage, in townhalls, she fails everytime. You know, when it actually matters.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 143Last Thursday at 4:51 PM

Debates and townhalls don't require a personality. The problem with Hillary is that she is too cautious. Which is understandable given how she has been treated for like 30 years by Republicans.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 144Last Thursday at 4:56 PM

[quote]Give us one Example. Just one

Offsite Link
by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 145Last Thursday at 5:23 PM

Warren used teeny weeny Julian Castro as her attack dog (politically incorrect: attack chihuahua). He trashed Beto in a debate - totally unfairly, Castro's a nasty little prick. Then he attacked Biden, screaming at him that he was senile. Castro was shown to be wrong in his attacks on both. He constantly leaked 'Warren congratulated me!' every time he attacked somebody. He paid for ads on Facebook promoting a Warren/Castro ticket.

Warren used Castro so she didn't have to openly flaunt what a total bitch she is.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 146Last Thursday at 6:57 PM

R146 The Castro brothers are two of the most slimiest, fakest, ineptly machiavellian, politicians I have ever seen. Being the mayor of San Antonio is a do-nothing job. How he became HUD sec and was in the Obama admin is a mystery. And then he low-blowed Biden in a debate, when they were all in the same admin a year prior is odd.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 147Last Thursday at 7:19 PM

Elizabeth Warren had lots of issues on her own. If you , however, discount the issue the US had/has with women as presidential candidates then I think you are naive. As much as I never trusted her, there is some truth in what she says.

I suspected that the way in was a female as vice-president. Thankfully it worked. But I think this past election was as much a referendum on getting rid of Trump as much as it was FOR anyone, so I'm not sure this was a sign the "female issue" is gone. ~ sigh ~

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 148Last Thursday at 8:22 PM

R147 Castro was Obama's 3rd secretary of HUD and HUD has always been the affirmative action cabinet post. He was only in office for 2 years but spent his time doing favors for real estate developers and Wall St. He was always GOP lite till he decided to run for President. He figured his best chance at a Veep nom was pairing with a white woman - Warren. He leaked in 2016 that he was being vetted to be Hillary's Veep. Somebody on Hillary's team later denied he'd been in consideration. So he tailored his beliefs to suit Warren's agenda.

He got the job at HUD when Obama ran out of candidates and Castro went to Congress to support Obama's deportations and strict border controls. He's a total hypocrite. Some Bernie shills dug up video clips of Castro trashing immigrants back in 2012. Had he acquired more support, Bernie's people would have taken him down.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 149Last Friday at 12:20 PM

I remember someone endlessly posting about Castro here back in 2015/16. They were obsessed with him.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 150Last Friday at 12:24 PM

There have always been rumors in San Antonio that Julian is in the closet.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 151Last Friday at 6:34 PM

R151 he definitely looks like he's always smelling galletas.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 152Last Friday at 9:35 PM

I really don’t think a majority of gay men or straight men in the Democratic Party would allow a woman (or gay man) to be president. They would not go for it.

by Yeah that’s why you lost 🙄reply 153Last Saturday at 4:30 AM
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