Obviously we hear a lot about London but what about the northern cities? Newcastle upon Tyne? Leeds, Sheffield? Blackpool?
What is northern England like?
|by Anonymous||reply 284||a day ago|
You might have more fun if you keep going north.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||05/01/2021|
Shit holes from what I've heard from Brits.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||05/01/2021|
Does sizemeat increase as one moves north? Otherwise a non starter.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||05/01/2021|
It's grim, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||05/01/2021|
R2 in the Domesday book, swathes of the North are referred to merely as ‘waste(land)’.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||05/01/2021|
Isn’t it Billy Elliot territory?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||05/01/2021|
The countryside is better than the south with the Lake district and the Pennines. Also the booze is cheap. Lots of poverty though its never really recovered from the decline of heavy industry.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||05/01/2021|
My grandfather was from a little place in the middle of Northumberland called Kirkwhelpington. I took a little trip out there and it was very beautiful. The river Wansbeck (?) was tiny, but pretty. I ran into the local "lady of the manor" and she took me on a tour of her grand home nearby. A very memorable trip. Kind of wish they hadn't left there and come to the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||05/01/2021|
It's grim oop north
|by Anonymous||reply 9||05/01/2021|
They talk funny up there. And there isn't enough diversity.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||05/01/2021|
I've heard they only wash their bedding once a year.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||05/01/2021|
The Full Monty took place in Sheffield and that was depressing as hell looking. In fact, many of those British productions all look like they were filmed in shit holes. I stopped watching Hinterland because it was depressing looking.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||05/01/2021|
There's a song about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||05/01/2021|
eeeeEYYEEA of course we hear a lot about London, OP la. S’where all the money goes, isn’t ih?
|by Anonymous||reply 14||05/01/2021|
Frankly, the appeal of places like Newcastle is that they're not awash in the nonsensical demand for diversity. They're still authentically English. And it has some architecture worth seeing. The accent is one of the most loved in England. I'm rather fond of it. Think Pittsburgh in America.
Diversity is not the alpha and omega of human society.
There are quite a few places in the world that are interesting precisely because they aren't just another multikulti mess driven by identity politics. You know, like Japan?
Newcastle is refreshingly. . . English, as opposed to just British.
Whilst not in the Tyne area, all eyes will be on the Hartlepool by-election on 6 May, part of the Red Wall that crumbled in December 2020, bit it is in the northeast, a Labour stronghold - only the Tories have a 7pt lead. I wouldn't call it done and dusted, but even if Labour hold the seat, if it's even close, it tells you something about how the north feels about you fucking metro elites who complain about the area nor being "diverse" enough.
Stay in London if that's all you want.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||05/01/2021|
[quote]Diversity is not the alpha and omega of human society.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||05/01/2021|
It gave us Sean Bean.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||05/01/2021|
“ Diversity is not the alpha and omega of human society.”
|by Anonymous||reply 18||05/01/2021|
Newcastle - buy now pay later
Everton - lol
Liverpool - screeching hyenas
ManCity - silent hyenas
ManUtd - touCHY!
Salford - class of who cares
SheffUtd -3-6-9 Brexit Formation
Leeds - Adidas “will this do?” design dept.
Derby County - bastard accent
Nottingham Forest - fail the eye test
Blackburn - massive
Burnley - BDL
|by Anonymous||reply 19||05/01/2021|
A pic of rural Northumberland.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||05/01/2021|
My grandfather's family comes from Nottinghamshire. It's only Midlands, not northern England.
BTW, it may be an insular area. Whenever I've met another Booth, they willingly discuss the family, etc. When a Booth called me to discuss my grandfather's family in Cuba, I contacted the Booth mothership in Nottingham. They responded in a curt email stating there were no Booths in Cuba! Hello, yes, some got there!
(You would think they would be at least interested.)
|by Anonymous||reply 21||05/01/2021|
Manchester is complicated as the City itself isn't very large (about 47sq miles), Greater Manchester which encompasses 10 of the surrounding towns and Cities is 493 sq miles and has a population of about 3 million.
There aren't really any gaps between the surrounding boroughs. As with most Cities it looks better from a great height.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||05/01/2021|
"Take me away from all this....DEATH....except for Manchester".
|by Anonymous||reply 23||05/01/2021|
In the North all seems to breathe freedom and peace and to make one forget the world and its sad turmoils.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||05/01/2021|
R19, if you're shoving Derby and Nottingham into the North, why stop there? You could put in Cornwall and Jersey while you're at it.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||05/02/2021|
The hillbilly English people scare the shit out of me.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||05/02/2021|
There is wonderful landscape (Lakes, Peak District, Pennines, along Hadrian's Wall), great medieval cathedrals (York, Durham, Carlisle), elegant spa towns (Harrogate, Buxton), grand 19th century cities like Manchester and Leeds with lots of culture (theatres, orchestras, art galleries, museums); spectacular country houses (e.g. Chatsworth) - easily as much to see and do as any dozen US states put together.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||05/02/2021|
Hadrian's Wall does seem interesting
|by Anonymous||reply 28||05/02/2021|
[quote]I stopped watching Hinterland because it was depressing looking.
It's a mixture of depressing & amazingly beautiful; it doesn't help that the lead detective has a face like a basset hound
That said, I've always had this fantasy about buying some farm in the Yorkshire Dales & having big groups of sheep that roam all over the place, only to discover that a guy that looks just like James Norton is my vicar. Well, I'm going to church now!
This is no doubt a product of watching too much PBS, but it's still a lovely idea
|by Anonymous||reply 29||05/02/2021|
r5 Most places do tend to be pretty empty after mass genocide
|by Anonymous||reply 30||05/02/2021|
I was in Swale-Dales one sunny day on a car tour and came across the filming of an episode of All Creatures Great and Small. It was Guy Fawkes Day, and bon fires lit up the hillsides through the night on my way back to Sheffield -- a memorable birthday in 1990.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||05/02/2021|
Blackpool is where it's at!
|by Anonymous||reply 32||05/02/2021|
I’ve been binging on Time Team since Covid and am planning a trip to tour the Roman ruins like Hadrian’s wall Vindolanda, some of the Villas. It’s fascinating stuff. My ancestors were mostly from roxburgheshire and York. I would love to rent a Miata and drive to Scotland, but I’m too afraid I would fuck up with driving on the wrong side of the road.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||05/02/2021|
Have any of you been to the Orkney Islands in North Scotland? It looks beautiful and I'm curious about the people there.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||05/02/2021|
R34, as far as I can remember, an American family has been resident on remote Fair Isle for a while now. It has a website. It is a bit of a stretch to call a group of the Scottish islands "northern England", however.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||05/03/2021|
Are Northern women pleasant and honest? Every single Southern English woman I've met, known or dealt with has been a raging cunt. Dishonest, self-absorbed, passive aggressive as hell, completely phony and just as nasty as can get. Especially the middle and upper middle class bitches from the South of England. They must be the nastiest, most evil humans on the planet. Bitch cunts, every single one of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||05/03/2021|
R36 fucking hell, where exactly did you go to meet all these women? If your experience was anything like mine, you must have been in been Greater London, or one of the Home Counties (I lived in Kent for a bit, never again).
Can’t speak for the South or the North, but in the West we locals are generally friendly, unassuming, generous and fairly upfront. You get the nasty rude snooty types, women and men, but most of them are New Money townies who want to mock up an ersatz Town & Country lifestyle. The unspoken provincial code is to be hospitable and easygoing where at all possible.
There again, most English people are not outgoing or forthright in their friendliness as some Americans expect or would like. You have to adjust for the national standard, and the character of the country.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||05/03/2021|
Skip England and vacay in Scotland.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||05/03/2021|
R37, you guessed correctly. I lived in Southwest London, Surrey and Berks for years.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||05/03/2021|
As a generalisation, most northerners are far friendlier, but more blunt than southerners. Culturally (as a Scot), I think people of places like Liverpool or Newcastle are more like the people of Glasgow or Dundee than they are like the people of the Home Counties (but, then, Edinburgh has a lot more in common with Hampshire and Surrey). Generally, northern England has been more industrial than the south (coal-mining, textiles, shipbuilding) and a lot of that wealth was extracted from the regions and centralised in London. It means that when the industries left, the wealth quickly disappeared too.
Most of the north of England suffered from severe economic shock during the eighties and nineties, and some of the smaller towns have still not recovered, but the big cities like Manchester, Liverpool, Newcastle are great places to visit, and a lot of money has been poured into the Arts in those places. There are also smaller places which are still relatively untouristed but well worth a visit, such as Lancaster and the coastal towns.
The countryside is spectacular: the Yorkshire dales, the Lake District, Northumberland. For such a small island with a relatively large population, it’s a miracle that so much of the UK countryside is unspoiled.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||05/03/2021|
All that matters in the UK are the Home Counties, apparently.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||05/03/2021|
[quote]What is northern England like?
There are more blonde people there than the rest of England.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||05/03/2021|
R39 ah, yes, that makes sense.
There’s a reason Harry Potter’s aspirant and abusive Muggle family were local to Surrey...
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/03/2021|
The further North you go, the more difficult the regional accents are for Americans to understand.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/03/2021|
You're right, R35, I meandered off location. Thanks for the tip; I'm going to poke around and see if the family has a blog.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/03/2021|
[quote] The further North you go, the more difficult the regional accents are for Americans to understand.
Tip: the pitch of their voices climb higher in proportion to their levels of anger.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/03/2021|
Watch the "Likely Lads," a sixties Britcom about two men (actually played by actors ten years older than they should be) in Northern England trying to live the life of Swinging London in the sixties
|by Anonymous||reply 47||05/03/2021|
Gollum and the evil one snuck up and crept away with her-er, her-er, her-er, her-er yeah
|by Anonymous||reply 48||05/03/2021|
r38 With the exception of Edinburgh which has found its niche as a slightly less expensive London (with about as many southerners) the lowlands aren't that different from Northern England. Its wet, its post industrial, lots terraced houses, and everyone' including the children are slightly drunk. The highlands are beautiful though.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||05/03/2021|
As an American, I was in a little place called Alnwick, Northumberland (which has an amazing castle) and a little old man with a long beard started talking to me. I couldn't understand one word he said!
|by Anonymous||reply 50||05/03/2021|
You mean THIS sort of accent!
|by Anonymous||reply 51||05/03/2021|
It’s like the south of England, only higher up
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/03/2021|
Manchester, Liverpool, Sheffield have never recovered their days of glory around the turn of the 20th century. All continue to look and feel depressed, especially if you compare with London. The countryside can be very beautiful Up North. Some towns like Lytham St Annes, Harrogate, Buxton have a genteel sheen to them.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/03/2021|
Soul music was huge there in the 70s
|by Anonymous||reply 54||05/03/2021|
In need of stimulus
|by Anonymous||reply 55||05/03/2021|
R54 Northern Soul shuffle dance looks so much fun to do. Wonder if it’s easy for a beginner? I’d love to learn.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||05/03/2021|
R15 is right. Same as when you go to Cairo to see the pyramids, you don't want to see a Pizza Hut staring back at you. You want Eqyptian food. Globalization and the McDonalding of the world takes something from culture.
There are places where it can be multicultural and there are places like villages in the Amazon where you want to see their culture, not Giselle Bundchen.
Not every place has to be the same. That's world diversity.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||05/03/2021|
R51 you’re mistaken; that’s an extremely thick Gloucestershire accent. Southwestern bumpkin’s brogue.
It’s the British equivalent of a something like a Kentucky or Iowa farmer accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||05/03/2021|
They’re a lot like North Macedonia, the Russian federation & Mauritania. Lots of farms.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||05/03/2021|
‘OW is that ANY of your FOOKIN’ business, OP?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||05/03/2021|
La grande, l'incomparable Lily Savage
|by Anonymous||reply 61||05/03/2021|
Watch Coronation Street OP, that pretty accurate. I believe it's meant to take place near Manchester.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||05/03/2021|
They leave [the] articles out of all their sentences, at least on LAST TANGO IN HALIFAX.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||05/03/2021|
[quote]Hadrian's Wall does seem interesting
Hadrian was my role model.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||05/03/2021|
I'd love to spend like three or four months in Britain and just visit EVERYWHERE, but I think that, even with its superior railway system, it would be challenging for an American to get around unless he is braver than I and willing to learn to drive on the left.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||05/03/2021|
[quote] They leave [the] articles out of all their sentences, at least on LAST TANGO IN HALIFAX.
They add the (abridged) article to the previous word, as in'T Last Tango in Halifax. Sometime it's inaudible.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||05/03/2021|
In 1982 I ordered a gin and tonic in a pub in Kingston upon Hull but that didn't work out. They had little fishing boats in the harbor in those days, before the hecatomb which was the Common Fisheries Policy.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||05/03/2021|
In 1985 a straight friend and I, both from London, went into a pub in Warwick for lunch and were immediately ushered by the landlord away from the bar and into a separate dining room, away from the locals who (I assume) the landlord thought might start muttering about 'southerners.' On that day Shirley Williams was having a meeting upstairs in the pub and on her way up she looked in on my friend and me and glared at us; I don't know why she glared, we weren't even fucking or anything. Purists may carp that Warwick is not truly the North, but my experience shows otherwise.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||05/03/2021|
R22, even from this height Manchester doesn't look good.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||05/03/2021|
Mohammed Imran Ali Akhtar, 37.
Asif Ali, 33.
Tanweer Ali, 37.
Salah Ahmed El-Hakam, 39.
Nabeel Kurshid, 35
Iqlak Yousaf, 34.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||05/03/2021|
[quote] Hadrian was my role model. —DJT
Who was your Antinous, DJT?
|by Anonymous||reply 71||05/03/2021|
Manchester supposedly has a vibrant gay scene around Canal Street.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||05/03/2021|
Yes, bashers throw gays into the Canal.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||05/03/2021|
R70 it took the police 20 years to do anything about the Muslim sex gangs preying on local non-Muslim girls; because police worried about the bad optics.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||05/03/2021|
SPARKLE HARKLE MEAGAIN
|by Anonymous||reply 75||05/03/2021|
Put it this way, in the North if you rape a 13yo you will be largely excused if you are a Muslim. Affirmative action guys.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||05/03/2021|
Member of Parliament Keith "Make me your bitch" Vaz seems to disagrees that 'white teenage girls are worthless and can be abused without a second thought'
|by Anonymous||reply 77||05/03/2021|
I'm surprised by all the negativity. I used to live in Yorkshire. It was paradise. It's very green because it rains a lot. You sometimes have to stop in the middle of the highway to wait for the sheep to cross the road, and there were so many wonderful historic places to visit. The locals call everyone "luv" and their accent is charming. I wish I still lived there.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||05/03/2021|
R78 is a sucker for God's Own Country, which is what Yorkshire folk call the county.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||05/03/2021|
God's Own Country was fiction. That unskilled, misfit couple would be bankrupt within a year
|by Anonymous||reply 80||05/03/2021|
A U.S. analogue might be the region of western New York State, western Pennsylvania and northern Ohio. Areas with significant natural beauty, but economically hard pressed for the past 40+ years. Cold climate. Larger cities - Rochester NY, Pittsburgh PA, Cleveland OH - still have a degree of urban presence, and smaller ones are, for the most part, still reeling from the loss of manufacturing and mining jobs, and suffering population declines. Think Elmira, NY or Altoons, PA. There remains a very strong rural/agricultural presence. that is an important part of the regional economy The political mindset is increasingly conservative, though the U.K. has to its benefit a much more generous social and health programme than the U.S.
I think the TV show Last Tango in Halifax does a good job of showing both the positives and negatives of life in the North of England. It's worth watching if you want a sense of how people live there.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||05/03/2021|
R81 That might be a satisfactory comparison but Britain has to deal with the White Man's Burden of being a former empire.
Britain now has to play host to millions from the former colonies choosing to enjoy Britain's generosity.
(For instance a couple from Cameroon get a free house for their eight children in Luton.)
|by Anonymous||reply 82||05/03/2021|
God's Own Country The phrase is also, and perhaps most famously, used to describe Yorkshire, England's largest county. This is used interchangeably with "God's Own County".
|by Anonymous||reply 83||05/03/2021|
That Wiki says eight different countries claim to be 'God's Own'.
I think it's a worthless claim if so many Godless people claim it.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||05/03/2021|
Pretty much everyone in the UK is 'Godless' by US standards, only 1% of people go to church, and a third of those are over 70.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||05/03/2021|
Wasn't the recent version of "All Creatures Great and Small" filmed somewhere in the north of England?
The countryside was beautiful, though I am aware that could have been due to a particularly skillful cinematographer.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||05/03/2021|
[quote] Pretty much everyone in the UK is 'Godless' by US standards, only 1% of people go to church, and a third of those are over 70.
Unless you opt out you are Church of England in England, that also goes for Yorkshire which thinks it really is the Promised Land.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||05/03/2021|
R86 Yorkshire. James Heriot was the vet in Thirsk, North Yorkshire. His former practice is a museum. I own racehorses that are stabled near there.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||05/03/2021|
[quote] I own racehorses that are stabled near there.
Welcome back, your late majesty.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||05/03/2021|
R87 The North-West of England is one of the last Catholic strongholds in the UK due to the considerable Irish Immigration, nobody goes to those church's either.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||05/03/2021|
[quote] God's Own Country
God = Muhammud.
Islam = Submission.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||05/03/2021|
[quote] those church's either
Oh dear R90
|by Anonymous||reply 92||05/03/2021|
Newcastle has a fine river with plenty of Victorian bridges and Victorian buildings in the town centre. Sheffield is surrounded by some of the most beautiful scenery in the UK - the Peak District. Climbers like to live there. The real shit holes are places like Coventry, Birmingham, Leicester and Bradford. Ugly towns with no history.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||05/03/2021|
Newcastle-under-Lyme or Newcastle upon Tyne or some other place R93, nincompoop.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||05/03/2021|
Leicester is great R93.
Up the Foxes!
|by Anonymous||reply 95||05/03/2021|
R95 Leicester is another Islamic den of abuse.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||05/03/2021|
THEY want to be in England but only on their terms.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||05/03/2021|
Leicester is a great city. Love living here.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||05/03/2021|
R98 = ayatollah
|by Anonymous||reply 99||05/03/2021|
R98 Do you hear The Muezzin four times a day?
Do you have no-go areas?
|by Anonymous||reply 100||05/03/2021|
Hey R100 it's five times a day, you have no idea gurl.
[quote] the "call to prayer" has to be done loudly and at least five times a day.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||05/03/2021|
It's almost heaven. Like West Virginia.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||05/03/2021|
[quote]Pretty much everyone in the UK is 'Godless' by US standards, only 1% of people go to church, and a third of those are over 70.
So all of those TV shows with quaint villages where everyone knows the vicar -- that's all fake?
|by Anonymous||reply 103||05/03/2021|
Hey R100 if you're a man there are no no-go areas in Britannistan; I was slightly taken aback with all the Muslims praying in the streets stopping the traffic but I didn't feel that I was in any danger from the prayers all of whom were on their individual carpets in the open air with their faces on the ground.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||05/03/2021|
[quote] So all of those TV shows with quaint villages where everyone knows the vicar -- that's all fake?
The CoE has a statutory duty as State Church to provide certain services. For instance if a Muslim couple wish to get married in church they can: the vicar is a state official and will certify them married according to the law although I assume not accordingly to the law of the Church.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||05/03/2021|
[quote] the vicar
|by Anonymous||reply 106||05/03/2021|
I prefer the dishy Vicar in Hyacinth's neighborhood.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||05/03/2021|
Hyacinth is dead.
The Church of England churches are empty.
Approximately 30 Church of England churches are declared closed for regular public worship each year.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||05/03/2021|
Did an overnight in Manchester about 10 years ago. Interesting architecture, food was expensive (I think the pound was quite high at the time), couldn't understand a damn word anybody said.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||05/03/2021|
It's the home of Pam the Northern Powerhouse!
|by Anonymous||reply 110||05/03/2021|
I found Manchester to be very friendly and easy going while still having a big city vibe. The pace of life is slower than London. But Liverpool, however, was a horrible place full of violent, dangerous drunks and aggressive panhandlers. It's a mean, violent city. Has a kind of grim, desperate vibe. The Beatles historical sites are all I would ever go there for. However, I must say I did meet a couple native Scousers who were funny and amiable. Sober, of course.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||05/03/2021|
[quote] Did an overnight in Manchester about 10 years ago.
No pronoun. You might as well start with, "So." That's you R109 from Ignoranus.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||05/03/2021|
[quote]Hyacinth is dead.
I beg your pardon?
|by Anonymous||reply 113||05/03/2021|
Gary Neville is definitely DILF material.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||05/03/2021|
R112 You need to know that R109 is replicating the argot of Nathaniel Winkle
|by Anonymous||reply 115||05/03/2021|
[quote] Did an overnight in Manchester about 10 years ago. Interesting architecture, food was expensive (I think the pound was quite high at the time), couldn't understand a damn word anybody said.
She sounds like some minor queen from Craggy Island.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||05/03/2021|
Hey R115 we can do without the argot of Nathaniel Winkle.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||05/03/2021|
I visited York not long before the pandemic struck, and I really want to go back again. It’s the ideal small city, full of history, with a beautiful historic centre filled with interesting shops and museums. The winding medieval streets leading up to the Minster are filled with cafes, bookshops and antique shops.
The people who live there would be justified in feeling overwhelmed by the number of tourists, but they were incredibly open and friendly. It’s on my list of places to visit once the world is mask-free again.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||05/03/2021|
I did my family tree and found that my surname originates from the north of England, and that a good chunk of my paternal ancestors were from the Northumberland region. There is a knightly manor there that is connected to my family, apparently. I know from photographs that the country is beautiful, though, as others have pointed out, northern England is known for being gloomy and poverty-stricken; I imagine it's culturally similar to the rust belt of the U.S., except with weather like the Pacific Northwest (I grew up in rainy Oregon, and I always liked the weather—perhaps it's in my blood). At some point my ancestors traveled south, as I have a great-grandfather (my 11th, if I remember correctly) who graduated from Cambridge.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||05/03/2021|
[QUOTE] Newcastle-under-Lyme or Newcastle upon Tyne or some other place [R93], nincompoop.
I can tell you're not British. Everyone here means the city of Newcastle on Tyne when they say 'Newcastle'. The other little town is irrelevant and rarely mentioned.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||05/04/2021|
[QUOTE] I was slightly taken aback with all the Muslims praying in the streets stopping the traffic but I didn't feel that I was in any danger from the prayers all of whom were on their individual carpets in the open air with their faces on the ground.
This doesn't happen in countries like Turkey and Egypt, let alone in the UK, you fucktard. Hope you're being sarcastic.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||05/04/2021|
York is beautiful, as is Durham and, further south, the parts of Lincoln near the huge cathedral. Hull, Grimsby and Scunthorpe live up to their names - all dire. Scarborough is run down but worth a visit for the cliffs and beaches. Doncaster, Retford, Wakefield - all grim.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||05/04/2021|
[quote] I was slightly taken aback with all the Muslims praying in the streets stopping the traffic
The streets of Paris are being imposed upon
|by Anonymous||reply 123||05/04/2021|
[quote]Sheffield is surrounded by some of the most beautiful scenery in the UK - the Peak District. Climbers like to live there. The real shit holes are places like Coventry, Birmingham, Leicester and Bradford. Ugly towns with no history.
Sheffield is notable for being one of the few towns even uglier than Birmingham. Coventry was unfortunate in having been flattened during WW2 and Birmingham has a shit ton of history despite hosting some of the worst town planners in Christendom. As for the Peak district, I think you will find the scenery bleak rather than beautiful. There is nothing much to see when you are sufficiently above seal level that your ears pop and trees refuse to grow. See also all the moorlands.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||05/04/2021|
*sea level but also very few seals around.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||05/04/2021|
[quote] Coventry was unfortunate in having been flattened during WW2
And then it was replaced a new city centre.
It was a Futuristic new city centre— as modern as Tomorrow!
|by Anonymous||reply 126||05/04/2021|
Feeling very vindicated that the bastard who picked on me in highschool ended up going to Uni in Coventry for a bullshit psychology degree and then getting a middle-management job in Birmingham so he could support his homely preggers Frau. Have a nice life, dickhead.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||05/04/2021|
R85 Don't worry. The Muslims are gonna breed non stop and 10-20% of the UK population will be Muslims in 20-30 years time. Just take a look and France and you will have an idea what the UK will be like in the future.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||05/04/2021|
Britons used to proclaim that they helped the 'underdog'.
The dogs are breeding and they will soon eat the Britons.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||05/04/2021|
Is the north where people use words like "nowt" and "summat" and use "were" instead of "was"?
|by Anonymous||reply 130||05/04/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 131||05/04/2021|
Sheffield is where "The Full Monty" was set, wasn't it?
|by Anonymous||reply 132||05/04/2021|
We had fun at Leeds.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||05/04/2021|
When you go to the dictionary to look up "nativist reactionary", R15 is given as an example.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||05/04/2021|
Had three aunts in Wolverhampton who I went to visit regularly in the 80s. Depressing and since totally changed from Irish immigrants to Pakistani immigrants, but some nice outlying areas. I think Hyacinth was from that area, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 135||05/04/2021|
R135 Liam Payne is from Wolverhampton, and is considered by the local metric to be solidly middle-class.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||05/04/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 137||05/04/2021|
I live in a northern town on the outskirts of Greater Manchester, and most large towns are divided along ethnic lines (either white, or Pakistani/Bangladeshi). What is surprising is that there are now lots and lots of recent immigrants and asylum seekers from Africa. I just don’t know what the government is thinking by sticking them in high rise blocks in the poorest towns in the country. Northerners are not friendlier than southerners in my experience, but they are funnier. As depressing as my town can be I do feel lucky to live so close to Manchester which has a fantastic gay village.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||05/04/2021|
R81 R137 I always thought that the better equivalency to the US was Northern England = The American South. (minus the hollowed out post-industrial economics which are more like the US Rust Belt). But in Britain where your accent used to immediately "place you" in the social classes, I always thought the Northern accent(s) were perceived like the southern drawl is in the US - no matter what your economic status or education level the Northern accent placed you as dumb, uneducated, and racist. Native Brits, is this not true...?
And the rabid racists on this thread... jeez, let's put you back in the 11th century ("these fookin' Normans are raping out children and takin' all our land!! Fook them!")
|by Anonymous||reply 139||05/04/2021|
[quote]I live in a northern town on the outskirts of Greater Manchester, and most large towns are divided along ethnic lines (either white, or Pakistani/Bangladeshi).
Why Pakistani/Bangladeshi and not Indians? Are they more assimilated?
|by Anonymous||reply 140||05/04/2021|
York is the only place in England where I had someone (a young lady at a restaurant) unable to understand my American accent. She had to get someone else to come and take my order.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||05/04/2021|
I visited York too R118 over a bank holiday weekend; it is a beautiful city, full of history (and tourists & people partying over the holiday weekend), but it had a considerable homeless problem and had trash piling up everywhere. If I went again, I'd spend more time in the Yorkshire countryside.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||05/04/2021|
r140 They tend to be more middle class. Also they drink alcohol which is one of our main cultural activities up here And there's just a lot less Indian immigrants in general. And the ones that are around tend to despise Pakistanis and Bangladeshis. I seem to remember a few actually joined the BNP back in the mid 2000s.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||05/04/2021|
Are grooming gangs present in each city?
|by Anonymous||reply 144||05/04/2021|
The highlight of my trip up North was Castle Howard in Yorkshire, well worth a visit!
|by Anonymous||reply 145||05/04/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 146||05/04/2021|
Hings hae nought been th'same since t'Normans arrived.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||05/04/2021|
[quote]I always thought that the better equivalency to the US was Northern England = The American South. (minus the hollowed out post-industrial economics which are more like the US Rust Belt). But in Britain where your accent used to immediately "place you" in the social classes, I always thought the Northern accent(s) were perceived like the southern drawl is in the US - no matter what your economic status or education level the Northern accent placed you as dumb, uneducated, and racist.
That's nonsensical. The equivalence is Northern England and the industrial Midwest. It's true though that the telltale accent of the working class Midwesterners are perceived by the coastal elites as indicative of being dumb, uneducated and racist.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||05/04/2021|
'And the rabid racists on this thread.'
Klan Grannies are on all the threads where they think there's an opportunity to make a racist remark.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||05/04/2021|
R148 That's nonsensical. The working class Midwestern accent (Iowa, Chicago, Ohio) is, in fact, the standard "classless" accent of the US in general, and predominates in all West Coast accents.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||05/04/2021|
They have all their teeth out at 21 or 22 and get dentures.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||05/04/2021|
R151 Well, that explains the unintelligible accents then.... toothless with bad dentures.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||05/04/2021|
[quote]That's nonsensical. The working class Midwestern accent (Iowa, Chicago, Ohio) is, in fact, the standard "classless" accent of the US in general
You're a moron if you think that a Chicago accent is the standard U.S. accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||05/04/2021|
Friday prayers in Newcastle: you can't drive because traffic is brought to a halt by Muslims praying in the streets. The mosques are not big enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||05/04/2021|
R153 There are numerous and unique accents in Chicago... but the WASP Standard English of Chicago became, in mid-twentieth century, the foundational argot of CA and West Coast standard English and the "media" standard, c.f. BBC Brit-speak. Of course "standard" English is problematic as a concept. The original point was that the "Northern" accents of England had some equivalency to the "Southern drawls" in the US
[quote]there is a well described dialect known as General American, which is also known as Standard American English, although many object to the title for the reason given in the first paragraph. George Phillip Krapp first named the dialect and described it as "Western...but not local in character." Later work added Northwestern, Midland American, and even California dialect (thanks to Hollywood's proliferation in the media). Nowadays, General American is understood to be the speech which does not fall under the following regional accents:
Eastern New-England (esp. Boston) The American South New York City And the following regional dialects which have more recently been excluded from General American:
Mid-Atlantic (including New England) Western Pennsylvania Inland North (Great Lakes area)
|by Anonymous||reply 155||05/04/2021|
r155, you can't baffle anyone into believing the BS that the Chicago accent is the standard U.S. accent.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||05/04/2021|
[quote] The other little town is irrelevant and rarely mentioned.
Whippersnapper at R120.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||05/05/2021|
Neighbours at Radcliffe-On-Trent in Nottinghamshire
|by Anonymous||reply 158||05/05/2021|
R158 That is why educated Indians all speak English.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||05/05/2021|
I was in the Lake District in 1984. I thought it was lush and beautiful.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||05/05/2021|
R148 The only things that I'd disagree with is that the North of England is in any way Industrial, that was destroyed in the 1980's over 30 years ago. We have more people working in IT than in factories.
The part of England that is perceived to be the most racist is the South-West (Somerset, Devon, Cornwall etc) as they haven't ever had sizeable ethnic communities.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||05/05/2021|
'Friday prayers in Newcastle: you can't drive because traffic is brought to a halt by Muslims praying in the streets. The mosques are not big enough.'
FUCK OFF KLAN GRANNY
This doesn't even happen in Muslim countries like Egypt, not that you have ever left the mainland US.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||05/05/2021|
'The part of England that is perceived to be the most racist is the South-West (Somerset, Devon, Cornwall etc) as they haven't ever had sizeable ethnic communities.'
These people hate all interlopers including white people from other parts of the UK, like London. If you sell a house to someone not from the west country, you're considered a traitor by many.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||05/05/2021|
R162 This doesn't even happen in Muslim countries like Egypt
You've never visited Luton or Leeds or Paris.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||05/05/2021|
On my way to Chatsworth, I was stunned by the ugliness of Sheffield. Incredible to think that it's just over the moor from one of the most beautiful places on earth, and it's one giant pile of unremitting ugliness. Every new building is hatefully ugly. The architects there must loathe humanity. And there are endless lines of shops with roller doors on their fronts. I was wondering how this phenomenon developed. I wasn't long enough in the city to notice its muslim population, but perhaps that accounts for it. Because it's like something you'd see in the shit parts of the middle east.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||05/05/2021|
[quote]Have any of you been to the Orkney Islands in North Scotland?
Yes, I was there a couple of years ago. Landscape-wise, it's pretty bleak, with the exception of some spectacular cliffs and coastlines. Mostly deforested and dominated by sheep and agriculture for making whiskey. Some fascinating ruins of really ancient pre-historical settlements. I quite enjoyed it.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||05/05/2021|
I'd like to return and explore the region, see places like Castle Howard and Newcastle-on-Tyne (I love industrial architecture, and Newcastle has a distinguished and well-preserved core). But northern England is full of some of the dreariest places in Europe, uglier even than their US equivalents, who usually manage a couple of Beaux Arts civic buildings and an above-average art museum. The lack of tree-lined streets in the less wealthy neighborhoods in the UK turns blocks that could be quite charming into something resembling rows of rain gutters. And the UK has always been, at the architectural level, reactionary and virulently anti-French (thus the lack of Beaux Arts planning). While other places in the late `19th and early 20th centuries were experimenting with new forms and materials, the British retreated into neener-neener-I-can't-hear-you-Tudor kitsch. Postwar, they tried to make up for it by building windowless cement blobs everywhere.
Oh well, the countryside is exquisitely lovely.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||05/05/2021|
[quote] Coventry was unfortunate
There's a place west of Coventry called The Black Country.
Cedric Harwicke said he saw 'hell’ there. He said the place deserved its title of The Black Country. There were slums and noisome alleys where the sun never seemed to shine. He saw families of twelve and fifteen souls living in a single room that was kitchen, bedroom and bathroom combined. Ragged children toiled alongside their gaunt parents hammering chains link by link.
They were Working Class then; now they're Welfare Class.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||05/05/2021|
This thread is illuminating for the fact that so few American posters ever seem to have travelled! Merely relying on things they've heard, movies seen, or books read.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||05/05/2021|
The Queen is basically God of England.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||05/06/2021|
R169 Are you new here? DL thinks the UK is either like Downton Abbey or some kind of ISIS-controlled hellhole. Anyone outside of that is a "chav", a word they saw used once twenty years ago which they now think means any white British person who isn't landed gentry.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||05/06/2021|
I've been to the UK twice -- but neither time did I get out of the London area. (Well, the second time, after a week in London, I did take a bus to Southampton to embark on a cruise.) I'd love to explore the entire island, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||05/06/2021|
R162 In Egypt they have big enough mosques. There FIFY.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||05/06/2021|
Friday prayers in Leeds: you can't drive because traffic is brought to a halt by Muslims praying in the streets. The mosques are not big enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||05/06/2021|
[quote] They were Working Class then; now they're Welfare Class.
They're Wayfair class.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||05/06/2021|
R166 I’m originally from the West, and I dislike (white, flash, Southern/Eastern) Townie interlopers just as much as proper foreigners on Welfare. They’re both equally cunty and disrespectful of local culture, albeit in totally different ways, and they both abuse local resources without giving back then have the audacity to accuse the place they’ve occupied of being inhospitable. They also build ugly trashy McMansions in green space, start vanity businesses that fail and damage towns, pollute (those big ugly SUVs should be outlawed) and litter, and behave in an imperious entitled way toward provincial workers. Got no time for them.
Northerners rarely come down our way, but on rare occasion they do I’ve found them to be charming, friendly, sound people keen to integrate, so I’ve got no problem with them (except that one Scouse bitch I met at College who led me on then stood me up for her boyfriend that she forgot to mention, but who’s counting).
|by Anonymous||reply 176||05/06/2021|
[quote] I did take a bus to Southampton to embark on a cruise.
You type poors.
"A man who, beyond the age of 26, finds himself on a bus can count himself as a failure." - MHT, OM
|by Anonymous||reply 177||05/06/2021|
R177 sweeping generalisation.
Take my example—technicallly I can drive (manual and automatic), been able since I was sixteen, had lessons for years, and took the test several times with full blessing of instructors. Even so, the DVLA refuse to grant me a full driving license, due to my poor eyesight and my slow reflexes (thanks, Hans Asperger). As I don’t make enough and haven’t got a trust fund/wealthy family to lean on, I can’t taxi or move somewhere urban where it’s possible to get trains all the time, plus there’s no reliable fast Uber where I live (rural, middle-low income area) either. Some of us don’t have a choice other than to take a bus.
Not to mention, the U.K. bus services are a damn sight better and more respectable than your typical scabby U.S. Greyhound, anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||05/06/2021|
Please stop saying England when you are referring to Scotland.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||05/06/2021|
This thread is about northern England, not Scotland which is even grimmer.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||05/06/2021|
Almost 200 posts and nothing about cock size? I guess if everyone is white and drunk it really doesn't matter much.
I appreciate the American comparisons to PA/NY/OH, where you must have a car. What is public transport like in the UK in the small cities? Do many people live full lives without cars or would you be considered sad and poor?
|by Anonymous||reply 181||05/06/2021|
If you think Sheffield is bad, you should go to Rotherham.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||05/06/2021|
R176 you're not convincing anyone.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||05/06/2021|
I know that R180, just as I know the Orkney’s are not in England as one poster suggested, and in fact the Queen isn’t ‘Queen of England’ either. Scotland is not grim, Edinburgh is a fabulous city and the Scottish countryside - and not just the Highlands- is amazing.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||05/06/2021|
[quote] the Orkney’s
Oh dearie me.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||05/06/2021|
Doncaster is a giant council estate. The whole of South Yorkshire is a toilet.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||05/06/2021|
r177 It was a cruise line-provided motorcoach that took us from Victoria Station direct to the cruise terminal. Not just a "bus."
I usually like to do a lot of research before I travel, but despite doing so, I didn't realize that the day I would embarking on the cruise (hence the day I'd be going from London to Southampton) was also the first weekend day after schools let out in the UK for the summer holiday. The traffic to Southampton was a nightmare and we were actually late arriving for the cruise. (But they waited for us since they were responsible for getting us there.)
|by Anonymous||reply 187||05/06/2021|
R177 in his cruise line-provided motorcoach...
|by Anonymous||reply 188||05/06/2021|
I'm from Surrey, and while I like visiting the North (anything above the Thames is Northern to me!), I really love Edinburgh in Scotland. I prefer it to London because it's a more manageable size. Like my corner in Surrey, you're only a hop, skip and a jump from beautiful countryside in Edinburgh.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||05/06/2021|
Once you remember that by historical rights northern England is southernmost Scotland, you'll have more perspective. But keep it to yourself. There's a lot of denial.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||05/06/2021|
Is a good show, too bad so much of it was lost. The follow up series in the 70s was not nearly as good
|by Anonymous||reply 191||05/06/2021|
The best thing that ever happened to Sheffield is Threads.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||05/06/2021|
I get the feeling that all of England has turned into London and Not London.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||05/06/2021|
R114 ta much. Nice to know someone can appreciate a quality bloke. It’s critical me and Our Philip are treated with a bit more respect around here...
[quote] Liverpool, however, was a horrible place full of violent, dangerous drunks and aggressive panhandlers. It's a mean, violent city. Has a kind of grim, desperate vibe.
Whole fookin’ place is crawling with bad tramps. If it’s not local talent you’re dealing with, it’s sicarios, slippery Paddy bastards, or gangbanger refugees they fished out the fookin’ canal.
When that mithery cunt Carragher and that whiny mingebag Gerrard are the best your fookin’ hellhole of a city can offer, you know you’ve got no chance, mate.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||Last Friday at 12:50 PM|
I've been to England/Britain four times, and never north of Cheltenham. I have seen all of the Angry Young Men British New Wave cinema, so I feel sufficiently depressed and suicidal about the North, though.
It's interesting to me how politics in England/Britain run. Brexit" Leave was super strong in the north, but not at all in Scotland (belying the notion that the North was just Scotland-lite). Again, the equivalency with the US South/Bible Belt seems right (minus the rusted industries, which are more like Ohio/PA.MI)
|by Anonymous||reply 195||Last Friday at 3:32 PM|
There are long-simmering tensions between the troll and the elf populations. Both claim the land as their own, and refuse to share with the other.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||Last Friday at 3:33 PM|
Kind of like Datalounge.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||Last Friday at 3:52 PM|
Minus the Bible as well R195, we loaded the puritanical Plymouth Brethren onto ships centuries ago.
Not sure where they ended up?
|by Anonymous||reply 198||Last Friday at 5:52 PM|
What is northern England dick like?
|by Anonymous||reply 199||Last Friday at 11:47 PM|
Do the younger people in Northern England share their elders' reluctance to shower, bathe or clean their teeth regularly?
|by Anonymous||reply 200||Last Saturday at 12:21 AM|
[quote] What is northern England dick like?
|by Anonymous||reply 201||Last Saturday at 12:31 AM|
[quote]Do the younger people in Northern England share their elders' reluctance to shower, bathe or clean their teeth regularly?
It has poverty, but not the desperate poverty you find in America, if that's what you're asking, Sweetie.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||Last Saturday at 12:43 AM|
[quote] belying the notion that the North was just Scotland-lite
r195 The Scots just blame the English for their issues and think they're being oppressed by bureaucrat's and politicians in a foreign capital who don't represent them and now believe leaving a union with their biggest trading partner is the way forward to a magical future of prosperity. Northern Brexiters essentially had the same belief system just replace Westminster with Brussels.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||Last Saturday at 3:06 AM|
How is the gay cruising scene?
|by Anonymous||reply 204||Last Saturday at 3:44 AM|
R203 In trying to describe a commonality you confirmed the fundamental difference...
|by Anonymous||reply 205||Last Saturday at 8:35 AM|
Northern England could be worse. It could be Glasgow. What a city! Every single man, woman and child in that shithole looks like they were taken down an alley at some time in their life, and battered.
And the blighted social housing, as one leaves the city, goes on for half an hour, even when driving at a steady pace.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||Last Sunday at 12:52 AM|
Glasgow is my least favourite city in the U.K., too. I actually felt unsafe there.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||Last Sunday at 1:01 AM|
I like Glasgow. Good pubs and restaurants and shops.
My ex was from there. 9.5 fat inches. A delight.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||Last Sunday at 1:02 AM|
[quote]I like Glasgow. Good pubs and restaurants and shops.
There used to be a poster here from Glasgow who wrote long, beautiful posts about his city; they were really some of the best threads. That guy was so enthusiastic about his city he should've been on the Chamber of Commerce payroll (or whatever the UK equivalent is). I was briefly in Glasgow on my way to the Highlands & I thought the city looked like the UK version of Cleveland Ohio. I wish the Glasgow poster was still around to tell everyone how they were surviving during the pandemic.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||Last Sunday at 1:25 AM|
The Merchant City in the centre of Glasgow is lovely, as is the West End.
Charles Rennie Mackintosh territory, plus lots of shipbuilding history.
The second city of the British Empire.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||Last Sunday at 1:50 AM|
R194, you're not fooling anyone. A few shibboleths in there betraying your true origins.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||Last Sunday at 4:31 AM|
Craig Ferguson is from Glasgow. I like him. He's good looking and funny. And he just moved back there, after selling his mansion in Los Angeles.
But some people from Glasgow... I just can't understand what they're saying.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||Last Sunday at 4:53 AM|
R212 Don't worry. I don't.
My ex took me around the gay bars a few years ago, The Polo Lounge, Bennet's, Delmonica's and a Piano Bar. Well there were various Caberet acts on at the last place and the MC was introducing each one. I could not understand a word he said. Not one word. And I go to Scotland a lot.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||Last Sunday at 4:58 AM|
Why are we discussing Glasghee in a thread about northern England?
|by Anonymous||reply 214||Last Sunday at 5:02 AM|
We strayed across the border.
Back to Cumbria, Northumberland, Lancashire, Durham, North Yorkshire, East Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, Greater Manchester, Merseyside, Cheshire.....
|by Anonymous||reply 215||Last Sunday at 5:05 AM|
[quote] North Yorkshire, East Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire
In God's own country, we call them Ridings.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||Last Sunday at 5:09 AM|
My racehorses are up there near Malton.
Beautiful part of the world.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||Last Sunday at 5:24 AM|
Pardon my ignorance... does northern England include Bronte's Wuthering Heights country - the Lake Poets? Shakespeare hometown? What about Thomas Hardy and where he placed his novels, Tess of the d'Urbervilles, Far from the Madding Crowd, etc?
Sorry to be stupid... but is northern England everything north of London -- or is some of that "Midlands" or whatever, which wouldn't count?
|by Anonymous||reply 218||Last Sunday at 6:16 AM|
Here you go, R218.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||Last Sunday at 6:19 AM|
R218 The North is anything north of Watford.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||Last Sunday at 6:19 AM|
For those down south it is, but don't include us in the Midlands. Up north is still well above us here.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||Last Sunday at 6:26 AM|
Thank you R219 and R220!
|by Anonymous||reply 222||Last Sunday at 6:26 AM|
Pardon my ignorance... does northern England include:
Bronte's Wuthering Heights country - YES
The Lake Poets? - YES
Shakespeare hometown? - No. Stratford upon Avon is in the Midlands.
What about Thomas Hardy and where he placed his novels, Tess of the d'Urbervilles, Far from the Madding Crowd, etc? - No. That's the West Country. Down south.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||Last Sunday at 6:28 AM|
R211 well, alright Inspector Morse, you collared me. I’m not from the North, no. I am definitely English born and bred, though—check my post history or ask around, if you really want to go the creepy stalking route, all just to dismantle a sodding joke...
You won’t care, but for the record I wasn’t trying to “fool anyone” or obscure my “origins”. Why would I bother? My reply was meant as a tongue-in-cheek bit of character-based banter—something you’d recognise if you actually had mates.
Don’t know if you’ve heard of this concept, but there’s such a thing as playing a character, monologuing, having a bit of fun with someone else’s voice. DLers do it quite a bit, so if that comes as a surprise to you I have to assume either you’re new to the board or you don’t understand different styles of humour to your own.
It comes to something when you have to ask other posters to refrain from trying to doxx you over a throwaway bit of joke roleplay. Despair of some of you, honestly. Get a fucking life.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||Last Sunday at 6:32 AM|
R224 Your post was shit. Get over yourself.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||Last Sunday at 6:41 AM|
R218, everything north of Hyde Park is the North, darling. Ghastly places, most of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||Last Sunday at 6:42 AM|
It makes me laugh that people are talking about Glasgow in a thread about NORTHERN ENGLAND.
Glasgow is in Scotland, you numpties. ;)
|by Anonymous||reply 227||Last Sunday at 6:45 AM|
R220, the expression is "North of Watford Gap", which is some 67 miles north of Watford.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||Last Sunday at 6:48 AM|
Watford / Watford Gap, who cares? Anything north of Watford is bad enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||Last Sunday at 7:10 AM|
disagree R229, Edinburgh is very nice. York is nice. Cheshire. C'mon, you're just a fucking snob.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||Last Sunday at 7:13 AM|
Has anyone here actually been to Watford? It is an unrivaled shite-hole.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||Last Sunday at 7:16 AM|
[quote]Glasgow is in Scotland, you numpties. ;)
Yes, we know that, the mention of Glasgow made me nostalgic for the Passionate Glaswegian. So back to Northern England, is any discussion complete without mention of Myra Hindley & the Moor Murderers?
|by Anonymous||reply 232||Last Sunday at 9:20 AM|
Some of my Northumbrian ancestors have the unusual name "Yellowly".
|by Anonymous||reply 233||Last Sunday at 11:29 AM|
'Has anyone here actually been to Watford? It is an unrivaled shite-hole.'
Yes, I had to go to a dental hospital there. Horrible rundown chavvy place, although the indoor shopping centre could be worse. St Albans is close by but is completely different.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||Last Sunday at 4:48 PM|
'Everything north of Hyde Park is the North, darling. Ghastly places, most of them'
I think not, darling.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||Last Sunday at 4:49 PM|
Glasgow is a hell hole but Edinburgh is quite picturesque. Inverness has arctic temperatures. When I was 19 I went to visit a friend there in August. I'd lived all my life in London and our summers are fairly warm, with temps usually in the 70s or above in August. My friend was living by the beach so I packed shorts and swimwear. Started out at Kings Cross station at 10am with balmy temp of 76f and reached Inverness nine hours later and found the temperature was 55f! And it stayed that way the whole week, with plenty of rain.
|by Anonymous||reply 236||Last Sunday at 4:54 PM|
Northumberland and Cumbria are beautiful counties. The Lake District and the Northumberland Coast with Holy Island are gorgeous.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||Last Sunday at 4:58 PM|
The Lake District is beautiful but it rains there around 300 days of the year and spoils the views. You can't trust the weather even in the summer and the lakes are far too cold to swim in. I prefer the south coast for a holiday. Lulworth Cove is a beautiful turquoise bay. Any further west and you run into surfing territory, though. As a child, I used to swim off the beach at Eastbourne every August and the sea was about 68f at its warmest.
Most Brits take a two hour plane journey to Mallorca or Minorca for warm sea swimming and gorgeous sandy beaches. The Mediterranean's temperature is in the 80s all through July and August.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||Last Sunday at 5:03 PM|
....or go to Skegness for a paddle.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||Last Sunday at 5:10 PM|
Skegness has such a strange beach. Huge tides and the sea goes out for half a mile at low tide.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||Last Sunday at 5:19 PM|
Yes. It's a massive expanse of beach.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||Last Sunday at 6:12 PM|
A friend of mine from Aberdeen moved to London and said for the first time in her life, she bought summer clothes.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||Last Sunday at 6:15 PM|
Which is interesting R242 as Aberdeen was marketed as a holiday resort in the mid last century.
It was discussed on Michael Portillo's railway program.
|by Anonymous||reply 243||Last Sunday at 6:26 PM|
Aberdeenshire is sunny enough for one and one’s family to choose to spend the summer months there.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||Last Sunday at 6:40 PM|
It’s close to Scotland.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||Last Sunday at 6:44 PM|
I was sick and tired of everything
When I called you last night from Glasgow
|by Anonymous||reply 246||Last Sunday at 9:44 PM|
Anyway we'd better get back south of the border to beautiful northern England.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||Last Monday at 12:16 AM|
Yorkshire, home of the Yorkshire Ripper--emblematic of grim, hopeless times in 1970s/1980s Northern England as Thatcherism dawned. "Yorkshire Noir" became a term in crime fiction. The ultimate example being a literary Hieronymous Boschian vision of violence, corruption, misogyny, and grim poverty in the "Red Riding Quartet" by David Peace. Film version for TV made it a trilogy. Northern England in that era was really the main character, and it's not pretty. The books are amazing, almost more horror than mystery/crime.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||Last Monday at 4:46 AM|
A Salvation Army band played.
And the children drank lemonade.
And the morning lasted all day.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||Last Monday at 5:22 AM|
The north of England is a conundrum. It has some of the most beautiful scenery in Britain. The Lake District, the North Yorks Moors and Dales. Charming towns, York, Harrogate, Scarborough.
Then it has those dark satanic mill towns.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||Last Monday at 6:03 AM|
Everyone calls everyone else 'luv', even the men.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||Last Monday at 8:28 AM|
One word: 𝙊𝙣𝙨𝙡𝙤𝙬
|by Anonymous||reply 252||Last Monday at 8:34 AM|
"The Strike" with Al Pacino as Arthur Scargill.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||Last Monday at 8:51 AM|
Stan and Hilda
|by Anonymous||reply 254||Last Monday at 8:56 AM|
Emmerdale v Coronation Street
|by Anonymous||reply 255||Last Monday at 2:53 PM|
r250 Most of the dark satanic mills have either been knocked down or turned into overpriced flats. We may have to write a third verse in Jerusalem to deal with the change.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||Last Monday at 3:04 PM|
The dark satanic mills are closed and everyone's on welfare cheques.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||Last Monday at 3:23 PM|
It's interesting one of my favorite ales is Newcastle Brown Ale. Used to be brewed there too. Now it's brewed in the U.S.
|by Anonymous||reply 258||Last Monday at 3:36 PM|
[quote] Newcastle Brown Ale is no longer available in the United States. A product labelled “Newcastle Brown Ale” is still sold but it is produced by Lagunitas Brewing Company and has little in common with the original product
r258 You guys apparently have a different version. Though that article also says the UK/EU breweries still export to America so I'm not sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 259||Last Monday at 3:45 PM|
The discussion about crime shows set in dreary northern towns reminded me of that awful story about Jamie Bulger, the toddler killed by a couple of older kids.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||Last Tuesday at 12:31 AM|
Aren't many Northern towns overrun by immigrants now?
|by Anonymous||reply 261||Last Tuesday at 12:47 AM|
Is this where the Chavs and Scallys are the hottest?
|by Anonymous||reply 262||Last Tuesday at 1:36 AM|
R260 My ex's ex worked on that case. It was truly horrific.
R261 They're not overun. The people are not immigrants. Go and take your race baiting elsewhere. It's not welcome in these green and pleasant lands.
R262 In my vast experience Liverpool is the prime location for those. Grey trackie bottoms, hands down the front, that kind of thing? If you were to go to Glasgow, they're called Neds.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||Last Tuesday at 1:49 AM|
R263, what did he do on the case? I find it chilling that supposedly James was sexually tampered with and then one of the boys, Jon Venables, was convicted twice as an adult for looking at child pornography.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||Last Tuesday at 4:55 AM|
R264 he was part of the crown prosecution team.
There was all sorts of equipment and materials used. It was quite horrible.
Yes, you're right about Venables.
|by Anonymous||reply 265||Last Tuesday at 5:03 AM|
What's the deal with all the ugly gasholders that litter the urban landscape?
|by Anonymous||reply 266||Last Tuesday at 6:05 AM|
Since natural gas has been the norm, lots of gas holders have been decommissioned.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||Last Tuesday at 6:53 AM|
R261 R263 This is why we can't have anything nice. This Nativist insanity that, while always in the background, has raised its head in the second decade of the 21st century and excuses, encourages, promotes the most destructive and poisonous kind of hate.
I have a Latina friend who is asked "where are you from originally?" Her family came to what is now New Mexico.... in the 16th century. It's not just a white racist thing, of course. In Japan you are still a "foreigner" if you are not ethnically Japanese... even if you're family has been in Japan for several generations and speak flawless Japanese. Brexit was supported by some voters who were disturbed by "all those shops up on High St selling Polish products."
Northern England has the highest percentage of "white UK" population of the regions in the country... although 30% of Manchester is "non-white"... many now 3rd and 4th generation. Guess what? They're British.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||Last Tuesday at 7:09 AM|
^ your family
|by Anonymous||reply 269||Last Tuesday at 7:10 AM|
The North in action, linked.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||Last Tuesday at 3:50 PM|
Well, having read this thread, I now know that the North is full of satanic mills, and it is impossible to walk down the street without being stabbed or tripping over the millions of millions of muslims saying prayers in the middle of the road. Thank God I don’t have to live there - I just visit for holidays.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||Last Tuesday at 4:02 PM|
^ Ah, the English have such a talent — or perhaps propensity— for turning a blind eye to the unpleasant things around them.
It's easier nowdays when we have automobiles— we just turn up the radio, drive faster and ignore all the ugliness happening outside.
It was different in the old days.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||Last Tuesday at 4:09 PM|
I’m sure your eye takes in all the ugliness all around you every day, r272. Well done!
|by Anonymous||reply 273||Last Tuesday at 4:12 PM|
R272 In the old days before automobile? How the fuck old are you?
|by Anonymous||reply 274||Last Tuesday at 6:08 PM|
R274, R272, aged 59, clerk at the Ministry of Fisheries, means he can now afford a small car which he will have to give up on his imminent retirement.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||Last Tuesday at 6:23 PM|
A Northern education comprises of critical core lessons in general life-skills—learning to forage for foods in bins, to remove the tyres from parked cars, and to strip bark from trees with one’s teeth.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||Yesterday at 12:17 AM|
Posts like this will always encourage Southerners to broadcast their uninformed prejudice about the North of England. Most of them have never been there.
|by Anonymous||reply 277||Yesterday at 12:52 AM|
So what do we think of Boris's plans to 'level up' the North?
Given we've had the Northern Power House bandied around for some time with precious little to show for it, is it all bluster from BoJo?
|by Anonymous||reply 278||Yesterday at 2:01 AM|
Do you even need to ask?
|by Anonymous||reply 279||Yesterday at 3:14 AM|
The BBC made a long-running documentary to answer OPs question, so anyone seeking to know the true nature and raison d’être of the Northern tribes should really seek it out. It’s called Last of the Summer Wine.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||Yesterday at 3:32 AM|
[quote]So what do we think of Boris's plans to 'level up' the North? Given we've had the Northern Power House bandied around for some time with precious little to show for it, is it all bluster from BoJo?
That sounds like the UK version of MAGA
|by Anonymous||reply 281||Yesterday at 4:45 AM|
Machete attacks are frequent.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||a day ago|
More machete action, this time in Burnley.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||a day ago|
Burnley's only purpose is to give Blackburn and Preston the only place in the county they can feel superior to.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||a day ago|