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Why are the Greek Gods so evil?

Geez. They pretty much all did horrible things. And these awful Gods were worshipped. Ew.

by Anonymousreply 42April 30, 2021 7:00 AM

I have to say, I love Greek mythology but the Gods are pretty awful. We’re talking eating people (including babies and children), rape, obscene punishments for nonsensical reasons, starting wars for petty shit, killing people for petty shit, the list goes on.

by Anonymousreply 1April 27, 2021 2:59 AM

It’s not unique to the Greek myths - true of all paganism.

AND - hold on to your hats - there are parts of the Old Testament where Yahweh does similar stuff.

These are old, old legends - not so much interested in “good and evil” but, instead natural and supernatural.

Sorry for the sermon.

by Anonymousreply 2April 27, 2021 3:09 AM

I think it’s a perfectly acceptable way to tell your children the awful shitty sins of your parents and grandparents.

“Oh, you think me forcing you to fight off wild dogs is bad???? Let me tell you about Deb Messing!” That sort of thing.

by Anonymousreply 3April 27, 2021 3:17 AM

It's about establishing a power dynamic where us mere, powerless, mortals better seek the, all-powerful, Gods' favor or face their wrath.

by Anonymousreply 4April 27, 2021 3:26 AM

It's a characteristic of the myth. All mythologies are like that.

by Anonymousreply 5April 27, 2021 3:33 AM

A great explanation found online:

The ancient Greek Gods did not create the universe. God(s) did not create humans in his image. The ancient Greek religion was not God-centered but the other way.

It was human-centered. Gods were created in the image of humans. It was human-centered.

Gods had power over humans and some extend could influence human activities/fate and this fate was unavoidable, but humans could influence the course of the fate bestowed unto them.

Look at this way. In Christianity par example when a person does good deeds for the benefit of mankind, obeying God's will he/she becomes a saint.

In the ancient religion the same person performing good deeds for the benefit of mankind obeying and subjected to the needs of humans and with God's assistance he/ she will become a demi-God.

But would attain the status of demigod only after performing extraordinary deeds like Hercules par example. However, a step lower was to be called an offspring of a divine God as Achilles par example.

The relation between Gods and humans in ancient Greece was not a one-way street, from God to humans but it was a two-way highway to put it in lay man's terms.

I can not resist asking you a question.

If in our modern days how can humans explain the death of an infant, par example, since God is all-loving and caring?

They can’t! The ancient Greeks, through their human-centered religion, sought an explanation. That’s why Gods must have had weaknesses.p

by Anonymousreply 6April 27, 2021 3:36 AM

They're above you're infantile human morals and your judgement.

by Anonymousreply 7April 27, 2021 3:37 AM

Worshipped out of fear! Sound familiar. Think Harvey Weinstein for one.

by Anonymousreply 8April 27, 2021 3:43 AM

[Quote] Gods were created in the image of humans

R6 All gods are created in the image of humans. Where do you think big skydaddy got his beard from?

by Anonymousreply 9April 27, 2021 4:10 AM

Are thunder and lightning evil? Or conflict, plague, and famine? Love and passion? Power and powerlessness?

The Greek gods are simply powerful forces in a (at best) careless universe.

Morality usually doesn't come into it. It's a mortal/human concept.

by Anonymousreply 10April 27, 2021 4:59 AM

[quote]A great explanation found online:

R6, being as how it's written by a believer using fundamentalist Christian talking points, it's a shit explanation.

As far as evil acts and sweeping atrocities, the god depicted in the bible beats the Greek gods, hands down.

by Anonymousreply 11April 27, 2021 5:04 AM

The ancient gods were seen as manifestations of forces beyond human control, e.g., earthquakes, floods, storms, famines, etc. The malign forces might be appeased with abject obeisance and sacrifices, but were largely unmoved by such factors as human love and kindness.

by Anonymousreply 12April 27, 2021 5:28 AM

That’s what i found the most intriguing when I read Homer’s The Iliad. That for ancient Greeks, these wars (in this case the Trojan war) were all seen as caused by the gods, petty, vindictive, and frankly childish. A superb read though which I highly recommend.

by Anonymousreply 13April 27, 2021 5:32 AM

R13, how is any of that different from the succession of various conquering nations Yahweh was supposed to have unleashed upon the Jews for their failure to sufficiently follow his penny-ante ritual laws?

by Anonymousreply 14April 27, 2021 5:43 AM

Besides, let's not forget that the idea of the Greek gods changed a lot as time went on. From their Proto-Indo-European (and Minor Asian) origins, through Archaic and Classical interpretations, to Neoplatonism in the Hellenic period.

by Anonymousreply 15April 27, 2021 5:50 AM

*Hellenistic

by Anonymousreply 16April 27, 2021 5:51 AM

R1 Are you sure you aren't describing Republicans?

by Anonymousreply 17April 27, 2021 5:56 AM

The question remains: Is he a Greek god...or a goddamn Greek?

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by Anonymousreply 18April 27, 2021 6:15 AM

Because PEOPLE created them. That’s why.

by Anonymousreply 19April 27, 2021 6:28 AM

Greek mythology is awesome! Athena is probably the least awful.

by Anonymousreply 20April 27, 2021 6:41 AM

Um, have you ever read the Old Testament, OP?

The Judeo-Christian god is pretty evil, too.

by Anonymousreply 21April 27, 2021 6:42 AM

Their togas were chaffing.

by Anonymousreply 22April 27, 2021 6:46 AM

R20

I think Hestia is the least awful.

Athena beat a girl and turned her into a spider because she lost to her in a sewing competition. She also created Medusa.

by Anonymousreply 23April 27, 2021 1:08 PM

R23

Correction: She turned Medusa, a girl who was raped by Poseidon in her temple, into a gorgon.

by Anonymousreply 24April 27, 2021 1:31 PM

Burn in hell for eternity, homo OP.

by Anonymousreply 25April 27, 2021 2:08 PM

[quote]R6: I can not resist asking you a question.

Unless it is “how do I spell ‘cannot?’” we have already heard enough from you.

by Anonymousreply 26April 27, 2021 2:09 PM

R26

And cue the grammar/spelling cunt, right on time. There's always one.

by Anonymousreply 27April 29, 2021 4:39 AM

I think one goddess turned some lady into a spider.

Was that really necessary?

by Anonymousreply 28April 29, 2021 5:06 AM

R27 as soon as i answer, the punctuation/capitalization cunt will show up.

I loved (and still do) Greek mythology as a kid/teen. i'm not sure where my fascination came from, but i have read the Illiad and the Odyssey and have a well-read book sitting on my bookshelf of mythology. I also really loved the book "Firebrand" about the seer Kassandra/Cassandra. I most connected with the goddess Demeter (and became an avid gardener). Lots of favorites.

But yes, they were quite cruel in how they treated humans. i am pretty sure the people of the time were trying to make sense of the cruelty and randomness of why/how people died or events happened.

by Anonymousreply 29April 29, 2021 5:07 AM

One of my favorite SNL videos, just an excuse to watch it again.

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by Anonymousreply 30April 29, 2021 6:52 AM

Don’t try me, boys.

by Anonymousreply 31April 29, 2021 7:06 AM

that was hilarious r30, thanks!

by Anonymousreply 32April 29, 2021 7:10 AM

I don't know. But more people know me, than they do the "Goddess" cunt who afflicted me.

by Anonymousreply 33April 29, 2021 7:32 AM

They weren't evil per se. They were simply anthropomorphisms of natural phenomena. People in ancient times didn't have the same scientific knowledge as we do today. So whenever a natural disaster happened, a famine happened, war and bloodshed, corruption, whatever drama et cetera. It was easier to explain that chaos as punishment from the gods. The gods were petty, angry and vain yes but almost every god in ancient cultures were like that. And interesting enough the Greek gods weren't omniscient and omnipresent. They had weaknesses, could be ignorant and they could even die. The definition of a god back then simply meant any supernatural being that was more powerful than a human being. The whole concept of an all-loving, all-knowing and all-present God that always existed came from Christianity via Platonic ideals and that greatly influenced our perceptions.

by Anonymousreply 34April 29, 2021 7:39 AM

You think they were evil? Just imagine them being dataloungers.

by Anonymousreply 35April 29, 2021 10:56 AM

It’s also true of the christiian myths - in fact, true of all christianism.

Good = natural

and evil = supernatural.

That I would agree with.

by Anonymousreply 36April 29, 2021 12:06 PM

It had something to do with the origin of love.

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by Anonymousreply 37April 29, 2021 10:57 PM

To answer your question: The Greek Gods are evil because the Greeks are cray cray! Greek people are either super nice or bipolar maniacs. Of course their gods are cray cray too

by Anonymousreply 38April 29, 2021 10:59 PM

The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

by Anonymousreply 39April 29, 2021 11:11 PM

But he said he loved me, so there's that.

by Anonymousreply 40April 29, 2021 11:15 PM

Not just the 'God of the Old Testament,' R39; New Testament theology is equally bloodthirsty. It's apparently the eschatological plan for Christ to wipe out the entire world upon his return, all except for the 'right kind' of Christians.

by Anonymousreply 41April 30, 2021 3:49 AM

The old Testament is part mythology. Part lore, history, genealogy, poetry, screed.

by Anonymousreply 42April 30, 2021 7:00 AM
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