Will The 93rd Oscars Go Down In TV History As The Most Epic Failure Ever?

Wokeness causes anything to fail so yeah

I used to watch it religiously, but I haven't watched the Oscars in many years.

Yes. FAIL.

I hate that they’re not showing clips of the performances.

I didn't even know tonight was the night! I used to love the Oscars, but not anymore. The films aren't as good or interesting, and politics have taken over. I just don't have much interest anymore.

OP may be right. Watching it now. Maudlin and boring.

"Boring" seems to be the most common descriptor on Twitter and other social media.

I think people would have forgiven the Wokeness some if it had been interesting.

But it's like watching paint dry

I'm sure between the COVID pandemic and BLM protests, the motivation was to do a solemn and dignified Oscars, but they missed the mark and we're getting boring and preachy. And no clips of any of the work nominated?!

I used to make it a point to see as many Oscar nominees in the theater. This is the first year I don't even know who's nominated and don't care to find out. I haven't even bothered to watch the films that are already available for streaming on Amazon and Netflix. What a comedown.

I think this is the first year where I also haven't seen any of the nominated movies.

I really find it difficult to empathize with any of the nominees. The woke grandstanding has not only turned me off of these actor's personal lives but their films as well.

The most privileged people in the world lecturing the rest of us during a pandemic where so many people are suffering emotionally and financially is just really distasteful. Fortunately there are a lot of good films from the past that I can enjoy.

I think it's just that we're living through a difficult time, probably a return to normal Oscars next year.

Luckily no one will watch. After over a year of indescribable human misery and suffering the last thing anyone wants to do is watch a bunch of millionaires pat themselves on the back and lecture all of us

The choice to not show clips was fatal.

Given how few people have seen so many of the nominees it would at least give some context

One of the main reasons why the Oscars were created was to advertise and market their movies. Not showing any clips is just dumb. They couldn't even get that right.

Correct, R12.

LET THEM ALL TALK: THE SEQUEL

It's like watching several hours of the technical awards only not as interesting.

Hectoring is the word I would use to describe what has happened in film, and the rest of traditional media. Hectoring, and pandering to an astounding level of ignorance because they believe everyone watching is beneath them, aka a moron. Even though they'd never say that word out loud. That's pretty much all there is.

I'm watching a movie from 1931 instead.

9 to 5?

Which one R21?

R21 City Streets, starring Sylvia Sidney, Gary Cooper, and Guy Kibbee

I mean R23 City Streets, starring Sylvia Sidney, Gary Cooper, and Guy Kibbee

I've seen City Streets, it's pretty good. I'd also rather watch that than any film nominated this year.

Thanks for info R21, 24,25.

Honestly, watching reruns of Family Ties is a better use of my time.

Maybe the real goal was to tank this year’s ceremony so that Netflix or Amazon could buy the rights from ABC. Because I don’t think I’ve seen a worse Oscars.

I was gonna watch this year, but I've got to give Brownie a flea dip.

Hopefully this will be the last time it's broadcast. It literally couldn't get any worse or be any more irrelevant.

Man, imagine if your Cadillac and this is your main marketing vehicle to be relevant and interesting to a new audience. You might as well go back to the fossils.

R25 I'll watch anything pre-Code.

JESUS CHRIST THEY WONT SHUT UP

It should be part of the in memoriam celebration.

All guest received expensive designer gift bags. Meanwhile the area was fenced off due to greater visibility of homeless people. Guests were also told that they could remove their masks during commercial breaks.

COVID has thrown everything off, to be fair, although the Oscars have been losing their magic. TV is bigger than ever with Netflix et al.

Shoulda watched The Oscar instead.

no, its innovative and fun

It's like some middle management banquet as written by Spike Lee. And oh dear, Glenn Close...

I heard a rumor that Glenn won for playing MeMaw in "Hillbilly Elegy"

I guess the Oscars just don't mean what they used to...

As per my tradition, I did watch all the Best Picture nominees, which were all good, save “Mank.” Ugh. I don’t understand the choice of Union Station, but it is a gorgeous building. The wokeness pandering is just too much though.

i found Minari merely ....ok

This Oscar will end marriages...between my sighs, eye rolls and muttering my spouse was so annoyed, haha! But really, I could produce a better show. Don't mention the pandemic, social justice or politics. And for chrissakes, mute the lighting. I've been to Union Station a few times and it doesn't need to look like the concession stand at a high school football game. If any Hollywood production staff reads this blog for the sake of all that is beautiful and pure please bring back art and escapism. Enough with the Baptist sermons on justice and the cult fundamentalism.

The Supertrain of award shows.

Disgraceful.

If the LAPD shot the show's producers on video tonight, the case wouldn't get beyond the grand jury.

sad that the sad film Nomadland is sweeping......miss day was robbed, carey too

bummer, hopkins won....boo!

The worst. Truly. The absolute worst.

I longed for that Snow Whiye musical number or the Stars of the Future segment to show up. This. Sucked.

QuestLove ruined it for me....too tv.

alll that poor funky house music, icky

[quote] I used to make it a point to see as many Oscar nominees in the theater.

This is so revealing. It’s always been a basic bitch marketing exercise that allows people to think they have taste.

At least the lady from ma rainey lost !!!!! YAY

Very happy for Sir Anthony!

My children just explained to me that what poor G. was doing is called “twerking.” Isn’t that sweet.

It was like a film school graduation. There was no effort to entice viewers to watch any of the films. Are they assuming that there is no box office to enhance? Who was the hammy drag queen pretending to be Angela Bassett?

agree, total crap sophomore attempt.. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

mank was my fave, a real movie....bummer they shut out

hopkins for the win? fuk NO

R20 To a degree, the harridans are right. Most people are artless imbeciles, just look at the popularity of superhero films in the past 20 years. But Hollywood forgets the film patrons who enjoy neither populist garbage NOR elitist hectoring. Once they lose that group, the industry is as good as dead.

Regina King needs to take a seat with Viola Davis.

MA RAINEY BEST HAIR/MAKE UP ????? WHAT A JOKE

I also agree with r20.

[quote] But Hollywood forgets the film patrons who enjoy neither populist garbage NOR elitist hectoring.

I wish Hollywood would make entertaining thrillers and mysteries. That's one genre that doesn't get much attention these days.

[quote]I wish Hollywood would make entertaining thrillers and mysteries.

They tried.

Manc was robbed

Agreed, only false not in that film was Amanda S.

[quote] But Hollywood forgets the film patrons who enjoy neither populist garbage NOR elitist hectoring. Once they lose that group, the industry is as good as dead.

Oh pls this melodrama. The only metric that counted has always been $$$.

weird that folks dont know that most awards/nominations in all shows are bought and sold like whores....

Used to love the glamour. Now it all feels contrived and silly. These showbiz people need to stick to their knitting and leave the world's problems to the grown ups. I guess I just lost all interest when they got all preachy.

I find it funny that the Minari actress dissed her executive producer Brad Pitt on national tv for being absent/not being hands on when they were filming and only meeting the casts on Oscar night.

Ha, I caught slash kind of loved that too, R69.

this year was just terrible. people wore crocs, baseball hats and sunglasses ffs. this ain't the mtv music awards.

She also called Brad’s company for the extremely low budget even for an American film. I guessed 2021 is not Brad’s year, huh?

Surprisingly, what I missed the most was the orchestra to play people off the stage. The director and Questlove weren't about to ask anyone to cut their speeches short.

I'm so much better than you. Hear me, really listen to me, see me, but not in the traditional superficial way, even though you will never, ever really know me. Pretend that I am above all of that because of my superficial cues that we're all supposed to pretend that are new to the viewing public, that are absolute idiots. We're going to pretend that this is important while we pander to the idiots in the world. That's the new global view. And we're all going to pretend that it's the best thing ever.

And good for you Glenn for never winning an Oscar. You're in good company.

Of course Boris the Nazi Incel and his poorly disguised sock puppets are just using Oscars as another excuse to shit on minorities and demonize the social justice smug whites and rednecks depend on.

How many different ways can you say “actors shouldn’t preach” before you go back to blindly obeying the sermons of shallow, show business airheads like Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump?

What a small, worm-like existence you lead when dissing underprivileged minorities is your only joy in life and your only accomplishment is lying to yourself that your skin or gender makes you superior?

You’re the cancer that everyone hates and your rooting for the LAPD to kill artists is particular proof that you’re a suck, evil sack of shit.

You’ll have lots of time to share your opinions with Adolf himself when you join his full-body skewer on the hot coals of Hell.

r75 people want GLAMOUR not lectures.

R75 One can agree with the social justice sentiments while also finding the Oscars to be an ill-considered venue for all of the sanctimonious hectoring that comes along with their expression.

i only saw Nomadland and liked it, despite naysayers. I could understand it though; i was homeless for 6 months and living out of my car. i was able to draw some parallels as to wanting to be somewhat free from societal norms. i appreciate Frances McDormand's dedication to the experience, and also that most of the cast didn't know this was actually a movie being filmed and not a docu. i love that it wasn't some fucking superhero BS or re-make...it was innovative and addressed some real shiat that is taking place in America today. Also, sometimes, we all just don't want to do a farking 9-5 nightmare where we are working to pay for the overpriced roof over our heads for an unfulfilling life. probably an uneducated opinion since i didn't see the other movies.

All the good stuff is on cable and streaming now.

What would r77 be without “sanctimonious hectoring?” We hear it all day, every day from him.

And if I had a nickel every time people who blindly heap money and power on hereditary real estate barons, oil tycoons and Russian mafiarchs while calling black actors who came from nothing “elitists,” I’d be an elitist.

R80 That riposte was too clever and sophisticated by half. Bravo!

R75 actually believes the woke shit coming from these people. Like anybody who believes in the Oscars has anybody else's concern's at heart. R75 you are truly a very stupid individual. You make liberal ideology a joke. Are you really Greg Gutfeld?

I can't watch one more fucking thing about slavery or the Civil Rights Movement. Sorry, I can't. I've just fucking had enough of both of those periods of history.

They used to never show clips.

It will be much better next year with a Royal Duchess hosting it.

i found nomandland most depressing and zero.

I must admit the ending of the show was rather satisfying to see. They switched up the order of the awards to set up a tearjerker ending, the deification of Chadwick Bowman. But they didn't reckon that the voting results might not conform with their expectations. Also gratifying to see Viola Davis lose. I bet she's going to be cussing out the minions in her life for the next few weeks.

And an Oscar show, a show designed to promote movies, rarely showing clips of the movies nominated? Especially when most of the films up for honors were barely seen? Really odd.

I did like the Union Station setting, it was different. I didn't miss the musical numbers at all.

The Glenn Close/Da Butt thing was cringeworthy. That joke was done much better and more efficiently 41 years ago in Airplane when Barbara Billingsley spoke "jive". And there have been too many comedies made over the years in which there is a scene in which uptight white people, exposed to Black music, start getting down and funky in their uptight white way. Cliched.

I despise Lyndon Johnson.

The internet and social media have rendered award shows wholly irrelevant. The masses simply do not need these shows to see or learn about the films or the performers, many of which are overexposed due to social media.

Maybe move it back to radio—or podcast. Make it more intimate.

Yon Yuh-jung gave the best speech of the evening. She was funny. She even joked that she may have won just because she was Korean. Nice poke to the woke crowd.

And R20 is right.

The Oscars are part popularity contest, part award for excellence in film, but always a three hour plus commercial for the movie industry. How can you not show people what they are getting by not showing clips of the films? Especially when the industry is trying to rebound from a pandemic that has cost them a lot of money. That was a glaring mistake. By not having it at the Dolby, again, big mistake. People could’ve been socially distanced and had that intimate feel like they did with the 2009 show. It lost a lot of grandeur by moving it inside a train station. Even though it looked good before the show where a lot of attendees were outside hob knobbing at tables instead of just filing into a theater.

The ending was horrible. Setting it up with best actor last thinking Boseman was going to win was ridiculous. Best pic always comes last. Not having last years best actor present best actress and vice versa. I’m unsure why they shook that up with Joaquin and Renee. Things like that, and not adhering to Oscar tradition, drive me nuts. Even though Hopkins and McDormand winning were shockers, it wasn’t enough to make me like this ceremony enough. Really just average at best.

Not bad with Riz looking as gorgeous and classy as he did. And Lakeith in a jumpsuit, very hot.

While a tiny minority people are trying to create controversy about Boseman not winning, the vast majority of people no longer care. To be fair, Oscars has been politicized for decades but this is shameless pandering at this point.

I shoulda swept in every category, honky cracka muthafuckas!!

There are three big problems with the Oscars:

- it's lost what little credibility it had for merit and excellence; and therefore,

- lost it's unique position among awards shows. It's really the People's Choice awards with lipstick on that pig.

- the broadcast itself has long been tedious. It should be Actor/Actress, Supporting Actor/Actress, Director, Movie, Soundtrack, original song (so they can do big performance numbers), screenplay and three technical categories - cinematography, editing, special effects

WHAT ABOUT A TRANS CATEGORY?!!!!! WAKE UP EVERYONE!!!!

[83] Would you prefer another round of WW II and Holocaust films? More super hero nonsense? More space westerns? Spy thrillers? Of all the possible genres the civil rights and slave genres are two of the least explored.

I think we’re headed for a dystopia, unfortunately. I thought maybe not, but I really believe life will get much worse.

It gave us this gem, so I can't complain.

R98 I honestly miss the thrillers and mysteries that were so popular around the 90s.

I'm tired of the superhero and WW2 stuff as well. That doesn't mean it can't be done in an interesting way. I thought Inglorious Bastards and Kickass were interesting takes on pretty stale genres. Biopics have to go. Bohemian Rhapsody was crap and yet it still won an Oscar.

I tell you something, homos! There are certain things missing in American (Hollywood) cinema, which I now call 'European sensibilities' (excluding the Brits). In American cinema, there is no Pedro Almodovar-like director, producing fiery and passionate movies with relatable and interesting female characters and large female ensemble casts rooted in an everyday, hoi polloi world. In Hollywood, there is also cannot be found the sensitivity of French cinema and the earthiness of mostly boring Bergman movies. The auteurs are missing. I think Hollywood should nominate and honour more European movies. That would make it more diverse as well.

R96 got it exactly right on his 3 points, especially the first one. I would only differ slightly on the third point, that even those three technical categories shouldn't be aired (they can be awarded in a separate ceremony like they do for others).

Le sigh. Anyone that has mentioned ‘pandering’ - for the first 90 years of its existence the entire industry pandered to white people, audiences, actors, producers etc etc. unless you’re an actual white supremacist this fact is undeniable. For you all to get so upset that the last two years have had some non white winners is so intellectually weak. Get over it.

As an example I remember people complaining that the accents in Oliver stones dumb Alexander movie weren’t authentic sounding because he used non English accents for a historical movie. Tells you all you need to know.

[quote]Hopefully this will be the last time it's broadcast. It literally couldn't get any worse or be any more irrelevant.

I agree. I couldn’t watch more than 2 minutes it was so bad. Award shows just seem so old fashioned now, and of course, it doesn’t help that most celebrities now are untalented and unlikeable.

I wonder why the ratings haven’t been released yet. They must have been really bad.

I’m glad he just smiled and chuckled. And shrugged. The only people who look bad are the insecure gay guys.

Or trans...whatever.

R93 = Riz

Hello, nice of you to stop by DL!

They're out now R107. Down big.

The woke doesn’t watch. Can we tell them to fuck off already?

How to improve the Oscar broadcast:

1. Ban all that "Red Carpet" baloney and any shows showing arrivals, early interviews, etc. Too much. Also open the show with everyone seated. I don't need to see anyone walking through anywhere. Start the show.

2. Stop putting all the "A-List" stars in the front row. I can't be the only one who hated seeing the disgusting Jack Nicholson sitting there every year. Mix them up. OK, put them in aisle seats so they don't have to climb over everyone, but do a lottery and place them throughout the theater. One of my early memories of the Oscar broadcast was seeing Susan Hayward running down the long aisle toward the stage when her name was called for "Best Actress", which showed her excitement and added to the fun of the show. More of this, please.

3. Cut the big musical numbers. Perhaps show a film clip featuring part of the score or song that was nominated.

4. Drop any of those cutesy connect with the stars in the audience bits, including the selfies with the host (was that Ellen?), the bus load of tourists (wasn't one of the guys right out of prison, talking to Streep?) and was there a pizza delivery too? STOP THAT SHIT. This bunch is too over privileged as it is.

5. Stop the stupid patter from the presenters. Get on, read the nominees, open the envelope, hand over the statue, back up out of camera range and then depart. Most of the presenters can't talk on their own, or worse seize the moment to inflict their unwelcome comments on the audience.

6. Start the show with a talented comedian (if you can combine with film clips like Billy Crystal did, all the better) who punctures as much hot air as possible and then leaves. He can come on at the end to finish it off, but that's it.

7. Back to the dress code. If anyone, nominee, presenter or guest, shows up inappropriately attired, they are refused entry and escorted out, and never invited back. Baseball caps and tennis shoes last night?- tacky, tacky, tacky.

I'm sure I can think of other things, but these would speed up the show and consequently improve the mood of the audience. Both in person or at home.

[quote] Stop putting all the "A-List" stars in the front row. I can't be the only one who hated seeing the disgusting Jack Nicholson sitting there every year.

Are you a wokester or something? Jack Nicholson is a legend. I don't think the Oscars can be saved at this point. It has little to do with the ceremony. Comedy has become too safe. The Oscars were never considered edgy but the hosts still used to poke fun. People are not interested in movies that are meant to lecture or shame and not entertain. The pandemic has also exposed how hypocritical most of Hollywood's elite is, and this was only a few years after Harvey Weinstein. People also don't need to watch Oscars for the fashion, since manufactured PR is now handled on social media. Moreover, people don't need the Oscars for movie recommendations when there is already since there is so much niche content out there, that if someone who only likes to watch films with African American casts can do so. I already have a full plate of gay movies, most of which are foreign and which American audiences probably never heard of. There are also too many awards shows as it is which doesn't help.

And if I want to go to an actual theatre, I want the spectacle. I don't want indie dramas or docudramas. Sorry. There are so many options now with streaming along with so many options for not just film but TV. The Oscars are truly dead and it's all for the best.

WAAAAAAAHHH!!! WAAAAAAAHHH!!! HOLLYWOOD WANTS PEOPLE TO BE TREATED FAIRLY!! THEY WANT TO EQUATE BLACK PEOPLE AND WOMEN WITH MYSELF!!! THEY'RE THE SHITTY PEOPLE AND I'M THE SAINT! WAAAAAHHH!!!

You're a scumbag and a psychopath, Boris, and behind most of the posts on this thread. If only I knew how to W&W my own posts like you!!!!

Nah, I still loved them and SO much less of a train wreck than the Grammies herding nominees together in designer masks or the hideous Globes. This looked like a homage to old days when awards were in Roosevelt Hotel ballroom and not televised. Released;and nice. Did miss the clips though.

Still, the fact that Frances Mc and Hopkins won the big acting awards is proof that it still has pedigree and isn't all politics. They clearly were setting up a Boseman win by making it the last of the night, the big emotional high, even moved Best Picuire earlier as if a reel had been switched -- and then whomp whomp, Hopkins wins and isn't even there. I laughed my ass off actually. But it does show integrity, not a fix for more exciting TV.

If the show didn't pander so hard it would have been a good show. Almost every single element of the show was pure pander. A little goes a long way next time.

[quote] Jack Nicholson is a legend

Groan. None of these people are important. It’s just acting. You need to reconfigure your life and what you place value in.

Then what are you doing here R118?

Godammit, there are still people who believe in fairness. Life is so unfair!

Let's compare the net worth of Jack Nicholson ($400 million) ...

they should just focus on films and stay off the politics!

People tune in to escape the horrors of reality, not be reminded of them.

... with Boris the Nazi Incel (—$2 million).

Sucks to be cut off from that Russian mafia cash when you took out too many loans based on it.

R119 teasing the desperate gays that form their personalities from celebrities.

The " Everyone is a Boris the Nazi Incel" troll is unhinged and needs her meds asap!

Trolling then R124. Revaluate your life, kween.

R126 I think of it more as a wake up call, charity work of sorts. It’s not trolling, I truly believe they’re desperate and need guidance to escape from the celeb adulation charade.

r119 has identified Boris the Nazi Incel and that Boris's main objective is to spread right-wing propaganda only on DL; to denigrate and demoralize liberals and use sock puppets and self-W&Ws to fabricate a false sense of consensus around his vicious, bigoted and warped view of the world.

DL used to be a place where gays who love show business (like most gays) would come to gossip. But we all loved pop culture and admitted the positive impact it can have on making our lives richer, better informed, empathetic and entertained.

But thanks to Boris, you will find insults and an abject disregard all show business on DL with as many accusations of pedophilia rings as he can muster. He will constantly refer to Hollywood as "a cess pit" and "prostitution." He will say things like, "NYC club music was never a profitable business" and that everyone always hated it. He's a sick, loveless, sanctimonious sociopath who gets livid anytime someone is having more fun than him.

DL has become more like DEADLINE — full of fundie, right-wing hate and horse shit.

Boris is here to make you vote for the likes of Trump and there's no thread he won't try to pervert in that direction. Thanks, Muriel!

R128-- And it still sucked. What the fuck is your point? No troll can make the awards interesting or exciting, and we have all had enough of rich mf'ers preaching to us about things that never affect them.

[quote] But we all loved pop culture and admitted the positive impact it can have on making our lives richer, better informed, empathetic and entertained.

Yet you are the one who shits on the last 100 years of pop culture thinking only the last 2 matters. Please save us your sanctimonious bullshit.

[quote] But thanks to Boris, you will find insults and an abject disregard all show business on DL with as many accusations of pedophilia rings as he can muster. He will constantly refer to Hollywood as "a cess pit" and "prostitution."

Boris, whoever the fuck that is, isn't the one who made #metoo a thing. Most people with common sense realize that metoo was only meant for a few sacrificial lambs.

So, just to be clear:

THERE IS NO THING THAT HOLLYWOOD WILL EVER DO THAT WILL EARN THE APPROVAL OF r131.

His multiple sock puppets on this thread and DL at large will ONLY find fault until he achieves his sick political agenda of wiping out all freedom of speech and art that makes anyone feel good or suggests a right winger is doing something wrong.

YOU ARE NOT DEALING WITH AN HONEST BROKER.. YOU'RE DEALING WITH A SOCIOPATHIC TROLL THAT RATINGS WILL NEVER IMPRESS.

R113 I agree with you but think a lot of people tune in to see the glam red carpet. I haven't watched this but who dared show up wearing their lounge Wear?

Glenn's dress was horrid and she's put on weight.

Did Anthony Hopkins have a rep accept or at least send a video in the event he did win? I know he wasn't considered a likely win but he was dedinately more likely than the other 3 male nominees.

r132 clearing with you self WW you gave yourself YOU are the sock puppet, hon. Noe TAKE YOUR MEDS, LOSER !!!!!!!!

Ignore the "everyone I don't like is a Boris!!!" troll and watch half the thread go poof.

R132 There was a fun thread on 80s teen movies which was derailed by someone claiming how awful and racist everything 80s was. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same person so offended that we criticize pop culture which he decided to embrace all of a sudden because it makes people feel good.

Yeah, play dumb.

Pretend nobody can tell it’s largely the same shitstain who dumps a right-wing manifesto and hate bomb on liberals in every thread.

Wow there are some really poorly constructed sentences happening here. This thread has become very difficult to follow.

how did a minority with 18% of the population take control of the oscars, tv, ads, and ever god damn thing????

Soderbergh tried something. It didn't work. Hollywood, as we understood it, is just over.

I can't believe I've lived to see the end of Hollywood movies as a dominant cultural force. And television. 20 years ago, I couldn't imagine a life where the television set wasn't a major hub of daily activity in my home. That day has come.

Hollywood stars are over. They've been replaced with a bunch of idiots living in Calabasas. It's really a bizarre thing to witness.

[quote]Hollywood stars are over. They've been replaced with a bunch of idiots living in Calabasas. It's really a bizarre thing to witness.

As sad as that is, it's really true.

I don't get the Calabasas reference. Isn't that just an LA suburb?

Calabasas is where the Kardashians, Bieber and lots of reality people/Influencers live. It's the hive of trash celebrities.

I see, thanks.

Perhaps a streaker could have livened things up?

Hollywood has got to start making movies again that are not simply epic superhero/fantasy OR woke feel-bad movies.

They're got to be something else they can offer.

WHEN WOKE SHIT IS OVER TV SHOWS AND FLIX WILL BE BAK TO NORMAL.....HOPEFULLY

So they shifted Best Actor to the last award? Why? Because they thought Boseman was going to win? Sounds like pandering to me.

The Academy doesn't understand that going woke to avoid getting slammed on twitter, they'll still get slammed anyway ... on twitter. lmao

I used to watch religiously. Yes, it was ridiculous - everyone knew it - but that's what made it fun. I was there for the glamour, the stars, and the movies. I wouldn't watch it now if you paid me.

Yes, R148. It was pandering.

And insulting.

Insulting to Boseman (if he had won) by treating is as "different" from other Best Actor winners. Instead of awarding the statue to him as an equal to other men who had been nominated and won in other years.

And insulting to the 4 other actors who were nominated because it was so obviously done for Boseman which meant that any of the other 4 nominees who could have won would have their award attacked by Boseman loonies.

R148/R149 pandering is the over-representation of white people in every sphere in the US. Wealth / political representation at all levels / media presence / positions of power etc etc etc. you’re both clearly biased so it’s harder for you to see that, but you go look up the population breakdown and then glance at the representation in Congress and then get back to me about ‘pandering’.

[quote]Will The 93rd Oscars Go Down In TV History As The Most Epic Failure Ever?

No. That distinction still belongs to the last season of Game of Thrones.

Once again, Al Capone's vault is nothing!?!

R150 You do realize that white people make up 73% of the US population, right?

And whites make up 77% of the current congress. So they're slightly overrepresented, but not overwhelmingly so.

R154 Ummmmm did you read the graph in your own link about white over-representation? It literally says on the graph that white (non hispanic) people make up 60% of the population while holding 77% of the seats in Congress. Come on now

No the lily white Up With People salute to Motown half time show at the 1982 Super Bowl is the worst thing ever televised

R155 That's easy to explain. Immigrants from Mexico and Central America have risen dramatically only in the last few decades. They have been here a relatively short time. The fact that whites may still be somewhat overrepresented has more to do with nepotism and corporate lobbying than racism.

And despite left wing propaganda about white supremacy, whites largely do no vote for other white people just because of their race. Rich white people don't care at all about underprivileged white people.

I guess you can say that black celebrities, especially ones who campaign for silly awards, don't really care about poor blacks either. Their political grandstanding is all for show.

R157 girl I was correcting the last poster that had her numbers wrong. Nobody asked you to butt in with your weird specious explanation for the overrepresentation of white people in congress that blames Central Americans (??) ok?

And I don’t know what your definition of ‘somewhat’ is but it’s over representation by 30% with respect to population. That’s big. I suppose that’s also someone some Mexican persons fault is it? Lol

[quote] whites largely do no vote for other white people just because of their race

Especially when compared to other racial groups. However, the fact that they don't automatically support other unqualified candidates just because their race is spun into this white supremacy narrative.

White people don’t feel a requirement to vote for other people for representation because they know that the system is weighted in their favour. In order for minorities to get any representation they HAVE to vote for representatives from their demographic or it just wouldn’t happen.

There have been 9 Asian American senators. Ever.

R160 It's because increasingly difficult for new immigrants to rise up the income ladder due to us transitioning into a technocratic economy run by a small group of elites. Considering the majority of new immigration has occurred during this period of transition, combined with those at the top consolidating more wealth and influence, has more to do with it. Unprecedented third world immigration during a period where lots of manual jobs are being replaced is another reason.

[quote] There have been 9 Asian American senators. Ever.

Have Asians made civil rights a core issue? The Anti Asian hate campaign was largely created by white people. Asians seem to be benefiting from the system.

R163 girl get off Twitter. While people have always been over represented in US politics, if you think that white representation in Congress is being controlled by low income immigrants then there’s not much can be done for you sorry.

R164 yes Asian Americans are rly enjoying all the hate crimes being committed against them. Lucky them!

R166 Yes, I'm sure refunding or "re imagining police" will take care of that problem.

defunding ^

R167 as I said, get off Twitter.

R153 / R154 did u figure out your mistake? Hope that was educational for you.