When Will Anna Wintour Leave Vogue?

Yes, please, a full glass. And make sure it's extra virgin this time, bitch.

I agree, OP. She's well past her expiration date. Completely overrated and less creative than both Diana Vreeland and Grace Mirabella. Stick a fork in her.

Hopefully they'll find a replacement who isn't a complete Gen-Z/SJW Idiot but will smoothly guide the magazine into the future of fashion & magazine publishing. Whatever that is.

LONG past time for Anna Wintour to go.

Someone needs to give her the boot ASAP.

Anna isn’t creative - she sells advertising.

She killed the supermodel and made celebrities covergirls. She destroyed the industry. I hate her.

Naomi Campbell should take over.

Like many Boomers, she will keep hanging on and hanging on until death or dementia finally takes her out.

She dropped out of school at 16 and got her job thanks to her famous editor father. Typical.

She had the whole racist scandal last year. She should have been dumped then.

Maybe they kept her because we’re in the middle of a pandemic. Maybe she had to agree to eventually resign. Who knows? She’s in her 70s.

I haven't paid any attention to Vogue in years. Have they shifted the majority of their modeling duties to "Lizzos" & "So Stunning & Brave!" Types yet?

Her mistake was to appeal to the lowest common denominator (buy this, because some low rent Reality TV star gets paid to promote it!) instead of curating a lifestyle of true (upper) class and high end beauty. When secretaries showing off their "super exclusive" Hermes handbags it's no longer "super exclusive".

What is lacking is striving to more than be a common Reality bimbo who got famous for a sex tape and now has gazillion (bought) followers on social media.

It's the same for guys who drop out of college, because all the nerds, some of them certified incels, and their super successful tech start ups did it.

R3, she IS the boot.

Long, leathery and smelling of feet.

Sorry, OP, my crystal ball is at the shop.

Stevie! So fabulous of you to stop by!

She's a cunning predatory opportunist—a great businessperson, like her or not.

Like Andy Cohen did at Bravo, she branded herself as one and the same with Vogue, as the sole visionary who manifests the entire business entity, regardless of all the other full-time professionals involved. She represents Vogue and she represents herself with personal appearances.

The person above is right: she sells advertising. Magazine publishing is a business, and Vogue survived and at least imagewise thrived as print publications went belly up for two decades.

And fashion is not a real, objective entity. Whatever fashion is is dictated by companies that sell clothes and to some extent by people like Anna Wintour who are positioned to put images in front of us and declare them "FASHION!" Her bob and sunglasses, Donatella's shiny monster face and wheaty hair, André Leon Talley's shadowy mountain of draped fabric are self-declarations that "I AM FASHION AND I CALL THE SHOTS!" and the gullible people who believe that fashion is more than a sales-driven industry follow them around.

If you think she killed fashion, then you're just longing for what the people before her called fashion.

The fashion industry exists for two kinds of people: the very few wealthy people (and fewer non-wealthy fashion victims) who will pay a 10,000x markup on a piece of clothing because of a designer label, and young people who buy and dispose of fast fashions modeled on ever-changing runway looks.

In the end, it's just an industry that moves product. The reason there are seasonal runway shows is because designers have to make clothing notably different looking every year to make people feel pressured to buy new clothes constantly for fear of embarrassment of looking out of fashion. The reason 'retro' is perpetually a mix of 20-30 years past is because there are only so many ways to create clothing to fit on a human body—yet designers, who are designing to sell, not to create timeless art—are sold to us as ingenius fine artists whose creations the wealthiest are privileged to wear.

It's all a façade. Anna Wintour knows that and she keeps her eye on selling shit. She noticed that actors and singers have much broader fan bases than supermodels, because the entertainment industry has a broader audience than emaciated women whose talent is walking, and so she replaced the emaciated models with digitally altered celebrities and kept that money coming in. The fashion industry is a sales machine and nothing more, and her contribution to it didn't corrupt or degrade fashion at all; it did her job of selling magazines that sell clothes by expanding readership.

There's a reason magazines like this hire people like Anna Wintour, whose father was publisher of the Evening Standard, and who grew up understanding the busine$$ of magazine pub£ishing instead of a silly, daft Isaac Mizrahi type who truly believes that "fashion, dahling!!" is an objectively important thing as an art form rather than an economic sector.

She will only leave in a body bag. Like QE2, she is there until she drops.

Anna Wintour is the classic example of The Emperor Has No Clothes.

Ever observe her personal fashion?

It’s hideous.

[quote] ... instead of a silly, daft Isaac Mizrahi type who truly believes that "fashion, dahling!!" is an objectively important thing as an art form rather than an economic sector.

Wait, what? Isaac Mizrahi who hawks his basic fashion on shopping channels?

R19 I was referring more to his sensibility than to his design style. A lot of big-time designers, like the people behind Prada, Gucci et al.—are not out in the media as celebrities because they're businesspeople, not public personae. Wintour is a businessperson, but she cunningly made herself into a public persona whose identity is inextricably linked to Vogue. Had she been a faceless magazine executive, she would have been forced out long ago and replaced with someone younger and cheaper who is more into the idea of fashion rather than the business of it. But just like Bravo can't get rid of Andy Cohen without appalling his fans because they believe he IS Bravo, Anna Wintour IS Vogue to Vogue devotees.

Unfortunately, Conde Nast needs her right now, because she's the only editor-as-businessperson they have left.

Anna planned it that way: As Conde's "artistic director," she fired or chased away all the contenders to her throne. Right now, Conde Nast's only success other than Vogue is the New Yorker. And David Remnick is not interested in—nor appropriate for—that corporate impresario gig.

Anna has torn down the whole company on the talent side to keep her job. GQ is now a woke genderfluid disaster under hipster Will Welch. Same with Vanity Fair under Radhika Jones. Teen Vogue, Self and Glamour are floundering as online-only. Wired lost two very talented top editors in five years. These all happened under her watch.

No need for the "(upper)", r12. Class stands on it's own.

I think she did what had to be done for Vogue to survive.

R23 Fashion fans would have preferred that Vogue had been left to die on the "principle" of paying tens of thousands to emaciated girls for their photos rather than cashing in on celebrities' pop culture currency. Because, you know, FASHION is ART, Darling! It is not to be degraded with the likes of Beyonce. It is to die on the Very Important Hill of Supermodeldom.

Correction: She did what was needed FOR HER to survive in this business. Vogue is just her sword wielding power.

When rigor mortise sets in and they have to pry her cold dead body from that desk at Condé Nast.

She’s like one of those proudly unhappy people who will never quit her job as they know once they do they’ll be dead in three months.

[quote] rigor mortise

O, venison!

[quote] rigor mortise

You just know Anna has that trademarked to be the name of her signature perfume.

She's a goblin.

I can only see it being like a Julius Caesar like situation.

^^^ “” Anna, beware the Ides of March issue!”

Apparently, even the slowest acting poison takes forever with this bitch!

How Soon Is Now?

She's safe until she dies. Because who is really going to take over at this point?

Dozens and dozens of top editors have left the business, even those who had success in digital, social, e-commerce, ad growth and brand representation, simply because they once aspired to Conde Nast and now there is nowhere to go.

Anna brought a bunch of them over to Conde Nast, particularly social-media darlings, who happened to be minorities — Eva Chen at Lucky, Joyce Chang at Self, two black editors of Teen Vogue even before the Alexi McCammond debacle — and let them die on the vine for one reason: To prove that only Anna Wintour knows how to make a successful publication.

Somehow this irony is still lost on Conde Nast: Your top creative executive is a suicide bomber.

I'd take the job. I'd show pretty pictures and outfits that actually go together, not this mismatched "pop of color" ugly stuff they show. Outfits look like someone was trying to put together something ugly. I wouldn't have as many serious stories either, just now and then when they needed to be told. It would be more fun stuff that people want to read and look at. I'd have what's in/out so we'd clearly know. And fundraisers where we would sell tee shirts designed by designers. I'd make it a great mag.