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Tinker Hell: Julia Roberts in "Hook"

"It was an unfortunate time for us to work together" - Steven Spielberg

Julia Roberts was engaged to Kiefer Sutherland during filming. He cheated on her with a stripper. She cheated on him with his best friend, Jason Patric. Julia and Kiefer called off their wedding. Julia and Jason flew to Ireland in the middle of shooting the movie, throwing the entire production off schedule. Spielberg threatened to replace her with Meg Ryan or Michelle Pfeiffer.

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by Anonymousreply 379October 6, 2021 4:35 AM

Ed Bradley / 60 Minutes: "Would you have any hesitation about working with her again?

Steven Spielberg: (Laughing) "This is a 60 Minutes question, isn't it?"

by Anonymousreply 1April 24, 2021 6:11 AM

Yesterworld: The Troubled History of Steven Spielberg's "Hook" - A Classic That Should've Been

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by Anonymousreply 2April 24, 2021 6:13 AM

And on top of all of that - it was an absolutely terrible movie - with or without all the drama going on in the background.

by Anonymousreply 3April 24, 2021 6:16 AM

Julia Roberts was a right slut. How could she even walk in the 90’s with all of the cock she was riding?

by Anonymousreply 4April 24, 2021 6:17 AM

Because of Julia Roberts's unpredictable behavior and leaving the country in the middle of filming, the budget and time scheduled to complete the movie literally doubled

by Anonymousreply 5April 24, 2021 6:19 AM

Hook is a HORRIBLE film. Spielberg's worst. Overlong, unfocused, totally without imagination. Scenes just ramble on. The definition of "dead on arrival".

by Anonymousreply 6April 24, 2021 6:20 AM

Imagine leaving the country on an unplanned trip to Europe with your brand-new boyfriend days after you call off your wedding to a different guy while you're shooting a starring role in a Steven Spielberg movie and you don't get fired

by Anonymousreply 7April 24, 2021 6:25 AM

Wasnt that bitch Julia also hooked on heroin during the shoot?

by Anonymousreply 8April 24, 2021 6:33 AM

Always full of herself.

by Anonymousreply 9April 24, 2021 6:36 AM

Always and Hook are two of Spielberg's worst films. I admit I am not a big fan of the Peter Pan story but Hook has zero magic. It should have been fun but I remember being bored when I saw it back in the early '90s.

Spielberg pressed the reset button and came back strong with Jurassic Park and Schindler's List in 1993.

I think Meg or Michelle would have been better. Roberts just looked so out of place in this film.

by Anonymousreply 10April 24, 2021 6:37 AM

Spielberg has said that it should have been a musical like he always intended. Obviously Julia Roberts would have never been cast if it were.

by Anonymousreply 11April 24, 2021 6:41 AM

Who would have played Tinkerbell in the musical version? Liza?

by Anonymousreply 12April 24, 2021 6:44 AM

Dustin Hoffman was fantastic in this film. But otherwise, I don't care for it.

by Anonymousreply 13April 24, 2021 6:52 AM

I WAS cast in a musical, a Woody Allen musical!

by Anonymousreply 14April 24, 2021 6:54 AM

Taylor Swift is Tinker Bell

by Anonymousreply 15April 24, 2021 7:02 AM

The Glenn cameo always gave me the creeps.

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by Anonymousreply 16April 24, 2021 7:03 AM

Michelle Pfeiffer has sung in movies

by Anonymousreply 17April 24, 2021 7:06 AM

Julia Roberts was coasting on this movie based on her popularity which was at it's height. Didn't see the movie but I did see one or two scenes she was in with her and her big horsey laugh. Ghastly.

by Anonymousreply 18April 24, 2021 7:11 AM

She was totally miscast as Tinkerbell.

by Anonymousreply 19April 24, 2021 8:51 AM

Guess i'm the only one who doesn't hate Hook. Don't think i can even blame it on nostalgia.

by Anonymousreply 20April 24, 2021 8:56 AM

Meg Ryan & Michelle Pfeiffer got a lucky break not appearing in this turkey.

by Anonymousreply 21April 24, 2021 8:59 AM

Meg Ryan would have been much more Tinkerbell-y than horsey Julia.

by Anonymousreply 22April 24, 2021 10:22 AM

R20 I like it too, despite its faults!

by Anonymousreply 23April 24, 2021 10:32 AM

That would never happen today, a little person would demand representation in the role.

by Anonymousreply 24April 24, 2021 10:42 AM
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by Anonymousreply 25April 24, 2021 11:54 AM

"A Low Vera" showed the world her true nature as a mean girl

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by Anonymousreply 26April 24, 2021 4:11 PM

Oh fuck, the gaggle of every-race-possible "Lost Boys" R25 with their hideous late 80"s (okay, it was 1991) hair and costumes. It was dated even then. Pandering at it's worst.

by Anonymousreply 27April 24, 2021 6:20 PM

She’s the most strung out Tinkerbell ever, what was she on during this shoot?

by Anonymousreply 28April 24, 2021 6:22 PM

R28 everything but roller skates.

by Anonymousreply 29April 24, 2021 6:25 PM

Meg Ryan would have made a darling Tinker Bell. She was at a perfect point at her career back then.

I vaguely remember this whole thing and it somehow turned me off of Julia Roberts. Even when the producers or whoever found her she wound up turning in a horrible performance which I assume was Methadone induced.

by Anonymousreply 30April 24, 2021 6:28 PM

R4 I'll never understand how she held on to that "America's Sweetheart" title for so long.

by Anonymousreply 31April 24, 2021 6:34 PM

She would been more accurately cast as Peter Pan with her Hillary Swank in "Boys Don't Cry" haircut and regional theatre Pippen tattered-understudy costume

by Anonymousreply 32April 24, 2021 6:37 PM

Leonardo DiCaprio was very close to being cast in the role that went to Charlie Korsmo

by Anonymousreply 33April 24, 2021 6:41 PM

Julia was/is a strapping lass so, in addition to all the drama behind the scenes, she was not suited to play a petite fairy.

by Anonymousreply 34April 24, 2021 6:45 PM

-coughs-

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by Anonymousreply 35April 24, 2021 6:46 PM

R35 that cough might be a sign you’ve caught covid19. You seem to have already lost your sense of taste.

by Anonymousreply 36April 24, 2021 7:35 PM

Christina Ricci might have been a fun Tinkerbell.

by Anonymousreply 37April 24, 2021 7:42 PM

She’s obviously not very enthusiastic while promoting it:

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by Anonymousreply 38April 24, 2021 7:56 PM

Hook isn’t a good film, but it inspired one of the best scores John Williams ever wrote. And for that, I’m grateful it was made.

by Anonymousreply 39April 24, 2021 8:03 PM

R39 I agree. "You are the Pan" is a beautiful piece of music.

by Anonymousreply 40April 24, 2021 8:07 PM

[quote]Dustin Hoffman was fantastic in this film.

Bob Hoskins did a pretty good job too.

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by Anonymousreply 41April 24, 2021 8:22 PM

[quote]Guess i'm the only one who doesn't hate Hook. Don't think i can even blame it on nostalgia.

No, you’re not the only one.

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by Anonymousreply 42April 24, 2021 8:23 PM

The film is the definition of INSUFFERABLE.

by Anonymousreply 43April 24, 2021 8:46 PM

R36 wins this thread.

by Anonymousreply 44April 24, 2021 8:48 PM

Since Madonna has inevitably been mentioned, she probably was with Warren Beatty as he came by Sony Studios to tour five entire soundstages used for the Hook sets

by Anonymousreply 45April 24, 2021 9:12 PM

I just don't understand the appeal of Julia Roberts, though I can only really look at it in hindsight, being too young at the time. I recently watched Notting Hill because I had never seen it but heard so much about it, and not only is it a terrible film, but I realised that she is a terrible actress! Why was she so popular?

by Anonymousreply 46April 24, 2021 9:18 PM

Have you seen Mystic Pizza?

by Anonymousreply 47April 24, 2021 9:25 PM

The only film I ever liked her in was "Mary Reilly". It got mostly terrible reviews, but she's good in it. Deglamorized, subtle and vulnerable.

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by Anonymousreply 48April 24, 2021 9:26 PM

I just checked her IMDB and I have seen 6 of her movies, all from the 1990s, the most recent being the Pelican Brief from 1993.

by Anonymousreply 49April 24, 2021 9:55 PM

1941 is as bad a film as Hook or Always. Loud, bombastic, and unfunny.

by Anonymousreply 50April 24, 2021 10:04 PM

R44 what do they win?

by Anonymousreply 51April 24, 2021 10:06 PM

I'm sure we can all agree she would've made a fine Harriet Tubman!

by Anonymousreply 52April 24, 2021 10:08 PM

What a piece of shit that film is.

by Anonymousreply 53April 24, 2021 10:16 PM

She used heroin while making this movie.

by Anonymousreply 54April 24, 2021 10:16 PM

The Bar Bush of Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 55April 24, 2021 10:22 PM

The official version of Roberts' problems filming Hook was all the drama going on in her personal life. But everyone knew the real problem was her drug use at the time. She'd show up late, if at all, day after day, Spielberg would film her for hours on end without getting a usable take. It's not a good film but it does have its charms, as mentioned above.

1941 is a very flawed film that I wouldn't recommend to most people but I adore it. It too has its charms despite not working overall.

by Anonymousreply 56April 24, 2021 10:29 PM

Roberts had a one-movie heroin habit? That seems a bit far fetched.

by Anonymousreply 57April 24, 2021 10:32 PM

Can we blame Keifer?

by Anonymousreply 58April 24, 2021 10:34 PM

1941 at least has a sense or chaotic fun. Hook is a dead fish.

by Anonymousreply 59April 24, 2021 10:35 PM

I thought Tinkerbelle was hooked on absinthe not heroin?

by Anonymousreply 60April 24, 2021 10:37 PM

R57, Roberts had huge breaks in between films in the early to mid-1990s which I assume was the consequence of some personal 'issues', whatever they may be. I know My Best Friend's Wedding in 1997 was considered a comeback film for her.

Also, more important than anything else, Hook was Goop's film debut thanks to her Godfather (who knew Jewish people had/were Godparents) Spielberg.

by Anonymousreply 61April 24, 2021 10:38 PM

I guess Julia just decided he wasn’t a Kiefer.

by Anonymousreply 62April 24, 2021 11:06 PM

I remember as a child (10 years old) just being utterly confused with this film. It was about Captain Hook and Peter Pan but Peter wasn't a boy anymore and he had grown up and had forgotten about Neverland... It was just to overly intellectual a film attached to a story universally known as something else.

Even if it focused more on Captain Hook and his motivations, it still should've been a live action version of the story Disney had already told us decades before. Robin Williams should've been casted as Hook with a teen cast (think of the Harry Potter kids) and a twink-looking young adult as Peter.

by Anonymousreply 63April 25, 2021 2:36 AM

Yes the Kiefer years was the heroin period. And when she became insanely thin and doing everything and everyone under the sun. She caused all sorts of drama on the set of Hook and Steven Spielberg has never forgiven her for it. Vowed never to work with her again. Which is strange when a longtime collaborater like Tom Hanks is one of Julia's closest Hollywood friends. She's very good friends with Rita. too.

by Anonymousreply 64April 25, 2021 2:51 AM

R64 I was going to say (to the poster who said she was “strapping”) that she was very thin then and in the Pretty Woman period in general. I never bought it but an excerpt from Garry Marshall’s book mentioned that she was starving while making Pretty Woman and passed out a couple times.

by Anonymousreply 65April 25, 2021 2:59 AM

I think I remember reading somewhere Garry had a talk with her after learning she was having a dry can of tuna a day during filming or something like that.

by Anonymousreply 66April 25, 2021 3:03 AM

I think those initial years of becoming famous were really difficult for her. Now, Roberts may be a bitch, but she was a huge deal especially during '89 to '91 and I'm sure dealing with that fast rise to fame was very challenging. She was everywhere and she had a number of hit movies, and she was still in her early 20s.

With the exception of The Pelican Brief, she really couldn't get the momentum going again until My Best Friend's Wedding. And by then she seemed like she had gotten her shit together.

by Anonymousreply 67April 25, 2021 3:09 AM

Why is she so big in OP’s pic? She’s like human sized.

by Anonymousreply 68April 25, 2021 3:15 AM

It would be nice if Spielberg would let it go and do something interesting with her and Tom.

by Anonymousreply 69April 25, 2021 3:17 AM

Hook had the greatest teaser trailer.

Then the movie came out.

by Anonymousreply 70April 25, 2021 3:21 AM

Drew Barrymore would have been ideal. She is his goddaughter.

by Anonymousreply 71April 25, 2021 3:22 AM

I watched August Osage and didn't get what all the hoopla was about?? But i do wonder what the set dynamic was like between Meryl and Julia? I also wonder if Julia had any fun with Dermot???

by Anonymousreply 72April 25, 2021 3:30 AM

It was a blow to Spielberg's ego as mentioned upthread that he had to tolerate her bad behavior. And probably why he can't let it go. Fox was never gonna fire the biggest movie star on the planet of the time. He probably views it as a huge disrespect.

by Anonymousreply 73April 25, 2021 3:38 AM

Did Robin Williams ever speak about working with Julia? The last time I saw Hook, I wondered how things would have gone if they made another movie.

by Anonymousreply 74April 25, 2021 3:51 AM

[quote]Drew Barrymore would have been ideal. She is his goddaughter.

They met when he was casting E.T.

by Anonymousreply 75April 25, 2021 4:16 AM

OP photo says it all: Julia big-mouthed mugging Pretty Woman-style somewhere off-camera while Steven looks patiently at her having another attention-seeking self-serving moment, not at wherever she has directed her attention, which should be on him.

by Anonymousreply 76April 25, 2021 4:23 AM

Steven was also not used to drama on his sets. And to this point he hadn't worked with huge stars of this magnitude who could be difficult. Maybe a stoned Harrison Ford but who else?

by Anonymousreply 77April 25, 2021 4:32 AM

Only a total narcissist with no empathy would be okay upending the work schedules of Steven Spielberg, Robin Williams, Dustin Hoffman, Bob Hoskins, Maggie Smith and Phil Collins when they were all riding high in their careers

by Anonymousreply 78April 25, 2021 5:16 AM

R78 thats what one big fat giant movie can let you get away with.

by Anonymousreply 79April 25, 2021 5:20 AM

To be fair I do think she's chilled over the years. I'm sure she's still lives the life of a movie star. But probably more chill.

by Anonymousreply 80April 25, 2021 5:26 AM

[quote] Only a total narcissist with no empathy would be okay upending the work schedules of Steven Spielberg, Robin Williams, Dustin Hoffman, Bob Hoskins, Maggie Smith and Phil Collins when they were all riding high in their careers

This makes me like her a lot less. I never knew she was like this. The absolute gall of her. Well, I never. I’m afraid to be even late for work while I’m working from home!

by Anonymousreply 81April 25, 2021 6:02 AM

R81 she was very young and at the very height of ridiculous fame. That's not excuse for her appalling behavior. And Steven Spielberg has every right to hold that grudge. But she was very young.

by Anonymousreply 82April 25, 2021 6:07 AM

Aww....Julia is so dear to Bobbie here.

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by Anonymousreply 83April 25, 2021 6:10 AM

I wonder why heroin instead of cocaine? Outside of the music industry it seems curious for a young female star to get into that. Was Kiefer and/or Jason into it?

by Anonymousreply 84April 25, 2021 6:11 AM

R84 both. There's a reason Patric was so good in Rush.

by Anonymousreply 85April 25, 2021 6:12 AM

[quote] [R81] she was very young and at the very height of ridiculous fame. That's not excuse for her appalling behavior. And Steven Spielberg has every right to hold that grudge. But she was very young.

How young was she? She’s not a teenager. This was only 6 years before My Best Friend’s Wedding so she couldn’t have been that young.

by Anonymousreply 86April 25, 2021 6:17 AM

Julia thought she and Jason Patric were this sexy, sizzling couple when really they seemed like boring, attention-seeking model types who called each other "babe"

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by Anonymousreply 87April 25, 2021 6:17 AM

She was 23-24 when she worked with Spielberg

by Anonymousreply 88April 25, 2021 6:20 AM

Fuck Patric was hot as fuck before he went crazier

by Anonymousreply 89April 25, 2021 6:21 AM

She was getting dick back. Not like that "other" America's Sweetheart lesbo Sandy B.

by Anonymousreply 90April 25, 2021 6:27 AM

Kiefer dodged that bullet

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by Anonymousreply 91April 25, 2021 6:31 AM

Steven should learn to forgive.

by Anonymousreply 92April 25, 2021 6:33 AM

Isn't Kiefer a drunk and crazy? Who dodged the bullet?

by Anonymousreply 93April 25, 2021 6:35 AM

R92 let it go, Tammy.

by Anonymousreply 94April 25, 2021 6:39 AM

My god, that mouth at R91. How is it even humanly possible? It’s like the Joker mixed with Audrey II mixed with the Alien.

by Anonymousreply 95April 25, 2021 6:39 AM

With the unflattering hairstyle at R91 and too-large grin, Julia looks like an insufferable entitled soccer mom

by Anonymousreply 96April 25, 2021 6:42 AM

I'd forgotten Julia cutting her hair to match Kiefer. That was...a choice.

by Anonymousreply 97April 25, 2021 7:37 AM

It was a thing in the 90's. Ew.

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by Anonymousreply 98April 25, 2021 7:45 AM

R98 the matching jawbones is too much.

by Anonymousreply 99April 25, 2021 8:23 AM

R99 I don’t like that shape face on a woman, at all.

by Anonymousreply 100April 25, 2021 8:29 AM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Glenn Close's cameo as Gutless the Pirate. Gutless is the pirate Hook has locked into the Boo Box.

No, I'm not making this up.

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by Anonymousreply 101April 25, 2021 8:55 AM

R101 has R16 on ignore.

by Anonymousreply 102April 25, 2021 9:07 AM

Julia wasn't his first bad experience with a big name. On "Duel" one of his first movies, he worked with Dennis Weaver who apparently was a monumental diva/prick. After that he worked with mostly no-names or friends for years.

But resolve weakens, big casting beckons and one day Junkie Julia is Tinkerbell.

by Anonymousreply 103April 25, 2021 9:31 AM

R102 or they just didn't bother to read the thread.

by Anonymousreply 104April 25, 2021 11:15 AM

I watched Duel the last time I was on a plane, travelling somewhere. I thought it was a pretty effective little film.

by Anonymousreply 105April 25, 2021 11:18 AM

Another vote for the truly magical score by John Williams.

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by Anonymousreply 106April 25, 2021 11:56 AM

Agree, R105. Duel is quite good, especially for a TV movie.

A few years later, Spielberg used the roaring sound of the truck going over the cliff (spoiler alert, oops, too late) in the sound mix of Bruce the shark getting blown up (spoiler...hell, these movies are nearly 50 years old, sue me) at the end of Jaws.

by Anonymousreply 107April 25, 2021 1:44 PM

I’m another fan of Mary Reilly. There’s no JULIA ROBERTS in her performance. It’s like watching a different actress.

by Anonymousreply 108April 25, 2021 1:55 PM

What happened to Julia Roberts? I can't think of a think she's done since August Osage and wasn't that like 10 years ago? Weird how she's the same age as Kidman and Kidman is everywhere and Roberts is....?

by Anonymousreply 109April 25, 2021 2:48 PM

"Hook" is so dreadful. They made Never-Never Land look like the Beverly Center.

Everyone in that movie was wrong--Julia, Robin Williams, and--the real whopper--runty Dustin Hoffman as Capt. Hook.

I seem to remember that there was talk of Michael Jackson playing Peter Pan--this was right after "Thriller." Now that could have been something....

by Anonymousreply 110April 25, 2021 2:56 PM

Someone might have mentioned this already but i heard she turned up with a shitty haircut for the role too and Spielburg hated it.

by Anonymousreply 111April 25, 2021 3:01 PM

I actually love this movie. I was a big fan of Peter Pan and i loved so much about this film. I was very young. I had a thing for Rufio and he was an older man in my eyes. I always hated Julia in it. She was a little ugly bitch fly and tinkerbell was nothing like her. I only just found out Glenn Close was in it. Seems weird somehow to use her there as a man too. Dustin was great in it.

by Anonymousreply 112April 25, 2021 3:15 PM

Dustin Hoffman and Bob Hoskins played their characters as if they were a gay couple. Steven Spielberg wasn't amused when he found out.

I am surprised that Steven ever decided to direct another movie again after having so much trouble with this one. Of course, he never learned and then did a movie with Tom Cruise who pitched Scientology tents on his film set!

by Anonymousreply 113April 25, 2021 3:22 PM

R113 Ha! Holy shit that is really funny to know and easy to see now you say it. Smee definitely seem obsessed with Hook in an unhealthy way. He knew how to sooth his moody man.

by Anonymousreply 114April 25, 2021 3:28 PM

I'm sure Kiefer considers Julia a dodged bullet as it would have been another guaranteed divorce

by Anonymousreply 115April 25, 2021 3:49 PM

Does Kiefer even remember that he once dated Julia Roberts? Or is that why he drank so much back in the days?

by Anonymousreply 116April 25, 2021 3:51 PM

R110, you are a gem for this: "Hook" is so dreadful. They made Never-Never Land look like the Beverly Center.

by Anonymousreply 117April 25, 2021 4:16 PM

Kiefer is hated by literally everybody. I was reading Shohreh Aghdashloo's book during quarantine and even someone as diplomatic as her had to admit he was a nightmare on '24.'

It doesn't excuse Roberts' lack of professionalism, but I think he also had a hand in the 'Hook' production drama.

by Anonymousreply 118April 25, 2021 4:47 PM

I think Julia just works when she feels like it. She’s got a hot hubby and kids and I doubt she’s hurting for money.

by Anonymousreply 119April 25, 2021 5:22 PM

Always gets a bad rap. Yeah, it's cheesy, but it's classic "tug at your hearstrings" Spielberg. You can tell a lot of love and care when into making it.

I lost interest in his movies after Schindler's List. It's like once he finally got the acclaim he deserved, he "grew up" so to speak and starting making standard adult fare. He lost the magic that made his earlier films so endearing.

That was painfully apparent when he revisited Indiana Jones with Shia Lebeouf.

by Anonymousreply 120April 25, 2021 5:34 PM

I believe both Steven Spielberg and George Lucas lost their envelope pushing nerd appeal when they became part of the Hollywood establishment. Basically, greedy sell outs. I think the manipulative pulling at viewers' heartstrings movie E.T was the turning point for Spielberg.

by Anonymousreply 121April 25, 2021 5:40 PM

Off topic but Bobbie Wygant always annoyed the fuck out of me.

by Anonymousreply 122April 25, 2021 5:42 PM

Slightly OT: I was dumped the night I saw Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The worst part of the experience was seeing Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

by Anonymousreply 123April 25, 2021 5:49 PM

R119 she loves her life!!!

by Anonymousreply 124April 25, 2021 5:51 PM

A movie starring Robin WIlliams as Peter Pan, and we're fretting over Julia Roberts?

by Anonymousreply 125April 25, 2021 5:56 PM

But who played the crocodile?

by Anonymousreply 126April 25, 2021 6:01 PM

They should have left Indiana Jones at the Last Crusade. A great ending. But the last one was a piece of shit. The only good thing was seeing Karen Allen again but they basically wasted her.

by Anonymousreply 127April 25, 2021 6:06 PM

And now they're going to the well AGAIN, R127. 🙄

by Anonymousreply 128April 25, 2021 6:07 PM

I know r128. Let it go. I love the Indy movies but they proved they can't go back. Even Shitty Shia's comments were much-needed. It was a piece of shit and Spielberg should just admit it.

by Anonymousreply 129April 25, 2021 6:09 PM

If I had an acting role being part of a gay couple with Bob Hoskins, people would say we had "great chemistry" and that I "really seemed into him."

by Anonymousreply 130April 25, 2021 6:27 PM

Will there be threads that slur JR characters from each of her movies we can comment on?

by Anonymousreply 131April 25, 2021 6:29 PM

It also performed horribly at the box office r6. But like the other film "Hocus Pocus" gain a cult following mostly due to Tumblr and nostalgia.

by Anonymousreply 132April 25, 2021 6:34 PM

R118 you know what literally means, right?

by Anonymousreply 133April 25, 2021 6:36 PM

R131 Most of her movies are vanity projects centered around her being cast as the lead. Hook is one of the instances early in her career where she was hired as part of an ensemble.

by Anonymousreply 134April 25, 2021 6:39 PM

R134, you could say that about M too.

by Anonymousreply 135April 25, 2021 6:44 PM

R135 what?

by Anonymousreply 136April 25, 2021 6:46 PM

I remember being a kid and thinking that Tinkerbell was the ugliest girl/woman I had ever seen. A lot of it has to do with her haircut but also her long horsey face. Now that I'm an adult I actually like Julia Roberts on screen. She was just so terribly terribly miscast.

by Anonymousreply 137April 25, 2021 7:42 PM

I had always heard that Kiefer got her into heroin and it was JP that got her away from it all

by Anonymousreply 138April 25, 2021 8:14 PM

Did Julia's Tinkerbell even interact with any other character? It was just reaction shots from her. At least that's how I remember it.

by Anonymousreply 139April 25, 2021 8:31 PM

r122 Did you see that new interview posted with Madonna for Evita where she basically asks her if she considered aborting Lourdes?

by Anonymousreply 140April 25, 2021 8:32 PM

So, did JR start heroin because she was hoping it would keep her thin?

by Anonymousreply 141April 25, 2021 10:36 PM

R141 Cocania accomplishes the same thing and isn’t QUITE as shady.

by Anonymousreply 142April 26, 2021 12:43 AM

Maybe "West Side Story" will be the musical Steven Spielberg always hoped "Hook" would be

by Anonymousreply 143April 26, 2021 12:47 AM

r61, People on DL just make shit up. She made a movie consistently every year in the 90s especially between Pretty Woman and My Best Friend's Wedding. Why would you just lie for no reason. People who don't know better can easily look these matters up. If she was a junkie, she was a functioning one.

by Anonymousreply 144April 26, 2021 1:04 AM

She only starred in one movie in 1992 and one movie in 1993.

Not much for having received an (undeserved) Oscar nomination for Best Actress a couple years before.

by Anonymousreply 145April 26, 2021 1:23 AM

r145, I don't know if you are r61 or not but you keep trying to double down on this lie. r61 stated she took huge gaps in between films which is just not true. She had one cool year and I think that was 1992 when appeared in The Player as herself. I'm not disputing that she was an addict, but don't make up shit to support your claims. I'm so sick of these DL posters who will outright lie to back up their claims of drug abuse, or anything.

by Anonymousreply 146April 26, 2021 1:57 AM

“Hook” is a mess, with Lost Boys woke before it was trendy, Robin Williams again trying to show how soulful he thinks he is, and a way too bloated scenic design.

And Julia Roberts just doesn’t belong in any of it. She looks like one of Spielberg’s child sex fantasies, inserted into an already confused attempt at “fantasy.”

Positive aspects of all this include a beautifully theatrical performance from Dustin Hoffman, as well as the basic concept of a grownup Peter returning to his origins. And there’s another marvel of a music score from the master John Williams.

But its few virtues really weren’t enough to keep me from boredom during the single time I actually paid money to see it.

Peter Pan with a very hairy chest is just weird.

by Anonymousreply 147April 26, 2021 3:31 PM

Since Julia Roberts is a complete bore, I'm going to try to divert this thread onto Jason Patric's ass.

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by Anonymousreply 148April 26, 2021 3:39 PM

Not even a nice ass.

Too generic.

by Anonymousreply 149April 26, 2021 3:49 PM

Pasty and flabby ass, how disappointing

by Anonymousreply 150April 26, 2021 4:34 PM

WHET Jason Patric?

by Anonymousreply 151April 26, 2021 5:35 PM

R151 he went from Lost Boys the movie to being Lost Man.

by Anonymousreply 152April 26, 2021 5:40 PM

His ass is decent.

by Anonymousreply 153April 26, 2021 5:51 PM

Jason Patric got fired from a movie several years ago - early 2010s - and replaced by Billy Campbell. Doesn't play well with others?

by Anonymousreply 154April 26, 2021 6:07 PM

Mmm, I like that ass. The only problem is that I just jerked off half an hour ago so I could actually focus when I got to work today, and now I'm gonna have to do it again. First world problems, huh?

by Anonymousreply 155April 26, 2021 8:48 PM

"Friend of mine who knows them A-Listers once told me Julia Roberts tried & failed to put the full court press on Mark Ruffalo and his response (good guy that he is): "I'm married. And so are you!" Julia's retort: "Oh cmon. It's Hollywood."

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by Anonymousreply 156April 26, 2021 10:35 PM

I remember a Robin Williams interview where he talked about making this film and struggling to lose the weight (classic Robin, he made a crack about not wanting to play Porky Pan). Not even a hint of an unkind word about her--if she really was a raging junkie at the time, he surely tried to be kind and empathetic because of his own experiences.

And sadly he's gone while raging bitch Julia will likely live to a ripe old age.

by Anonymousreply 157April 26, 2021 10:45 PM

A number of people have gone on to work with her again -- Tom Hanks, George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Richard Gere -- so she can't be that bad if they were going to work with her again. One of the actors who played one of the Lost Boys said she was very nice to him on set.

by Anonymousreply 158April 27, 2021 12:52 AM

The only people who hate Julia are envious bitchy gays who can't grasp the affect she has has on straight men. She's fkin beautiful with a great sense humor, they can put up with the bitch spouts. Most sexy, confident gay men realize thats just the way some hot women are. Hell women period. Maybe because I still enjoy puss every now and then.

by Anonymousreply 159April 27, 2021 1:02 AM

Mork from Ork had a Peter Pan sensibility

by Anonymousreply 160April 27, 2021 2:59 AM

R148 nothing about boring pretty boy Jason Patric is enough to divert my attention from real men Robin Williams and Bob Hoskins

by Anonymousreply 161April 27, 2021 3:03 AM

R158 yeah I tend to agree - same with Goop. The really awful ones (at least the women) get iced out.

When she first became famous she was pretty humorless in interviews and was always complaining about the paparazziiiii, tabloid “untruths,” etc. It was actually very popular for early 90s actors to whine like this. Then once she had her comeback, she was much lighter and fun and had a healthy sense of humor about herself. I guess she learned.

She definitely did take “time off” (for whatever reason) and the press made a thing about it. There was even a People mag cover with the headline “Whatever Happened to Julia Roberts?” The things you remember.

by Anonymousreply 162April 27, 2021 6:13 AM

Haven't seen that many of her films. Steel Magnolias, Pretty Woman, My Best Friends Wedding and August: Osage County.

Checked her imdb page.

She made a lot of turkeys.

by Anonymousreply 163April 27, 2021 6:49 AM

Just curious cos i am not a gay male.... Is Bob Hoskins considered sexy ? Is he gay? It sounds like it. I dont know anything about him.

by Anonymousreply 164April 27, 2021 8:23 AM

[quote] Is Bob Hoskins considered sexy ?

For those who are into bears and / or daddies? Very likely.

by Anonymousreply 165April 27, 2021 9:45 AM

They get iced out when they stop being box office.

by Anonymousreply 166April 27, 2021 10:48 AM

They get iced out when they stop being box office.

by Anonymousreply 167April 27, 2021 10:49 AM

I recently tried to watch Hook because I had never seen it. Got through about 20 minutes

by Anonymousreply 168April 27, 2021 11:12 AM

Hook was a surprisingly dark Peter Pan movie l, with a suicidal Hook, Workaholic/heavy drinking lawyer Peter, one of the lost boys gets killed in the end, and there’s even attempted brainwashing by Hook on Peter’s children. That’s some dark themes there, but set against a bright colorful score and set.

Julia was only sorta there for parts of the movie and her character just came in and out. Her best scene was at the end when Peter is back in London and she says tearfully that she’ll always love him in that space between sleeping and being awake.

People in here are hard on the movie and Roberts. I liked the movie as a kid.

The sad thing is, I’ve heard the Julia running off with Patric story a hundred times and this is very first time I’ve heard that Kiefer cheated on her first and her cheating was in reaction to his. Sad that women get judged more harshly for the same shit men do.

by Anonymousreply 169April 27, 2021 12:00 PM

I wish they’d make a movie out of Peter and the Starcatchers based on the Broadway show, it was lovely and sweet.

by Anonymousreply 170April 27, 2021 12:30 PM

Re Jason Patric: he seems to have a sense of humor and is able to make fun of himself. In a season of ENTOURAGE, he played himself and was portrayed as a demanding diva, even stealing lines from Vincent Chase when they were both cast in a fireman movie. He was also two-faced because he would be nice/friendly to Vince to his face but was an asshole behind his back and was determined to sabotage him. My brother now hates Jason Patric because he thinks that's how the actor really is.

BTW: I think he has a nice ass in that clip someone posted above.

by Anonymousreply 171April 27, 2021 3:17 PM

R146 I don't know if Roberts had a drug problem, but I do recall THE PELICAN BRIEF (#10 of 1993) as being her last blockbuster hit for a few years. She had several releases in '94, '95, and '96, but they were either underperformers, flops or she had a small role in them. This was also the period that saw the rise of Sandra Bullock (SPEED, WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING, THE NET, A TIME TO KILL) who many were predicting to take Roberts' title as America's Sweetheart. The other poster is right that MY BEST FRIEND'S WEDDING (#8 of 1997) was her comeback role/movie. I remember she and Rupert Everett got Oscar buzz and both were nominated for the Golden Globe.

by Anonymousreply 172April 27, 2021 3:57 PM

R172 How many of those Sandy B. movies did Julia turn down the lead in?

by Anonymousreply 173April 27, 2021 4:19 PM

R26 seething bitch face

by Anonymousreply 174April 27, 2021 9:46 PM

R162 I've always found it interesting in the Kardashian era that back in those days celebrities HATED and LOATHED the paparrazzi and constantly bitched and moaned about it to the point where you felt like they actually hated being photographed and stalked. Then the generation after them turned out to love that shit, set sit up, puts it on the "Gram" and basically make a living off being photographed. Back in her time the stars hated being on the National Enquirer and followed everywhere. It was one of the things that cause her little meltdown during Hook. She was relentlessly pursued for many years because everyone wanted to know everything about her. Compare that to a Kim Kardashian who offers that up as a job.

by Anonymousreply 175April 28, 2021 3:24 AM

One thing I do respect about Julia - aside from the A Low Vera thing - is she doesn't push her kids into the spotlight and is very protective of them.

I remember years ago there was a video of Julia giving the icy stare to a paparazzi following her picking her son up from school. I believe Julia even confronted him and told him off. I was totally on her side. That's really crossing a line trying to get shots of a celebrity with their children at their school. I had a newfound respect for Julia when Mama Bear came out.

by Anonymousreply 176April 28, 2021 3:27 AM

Momma Bear? More like Momma Mare am I right!

by Anonymousreply 177April 28, 2021 3:34 AM

Julia Roberts and Madonna were like the last tabloid queens before the internet. One enjoyed it and the other had a very hard time with it.

by Anonymousreply 178April 28, 2021 3:36 AM

R176 One day those Kids will find out what a relentless Junkie slut Julia Was.

by Anonymousreply 179April 28, 2021 2:28 PM

Remember when Julia's sister killed herself and left a 5 page suicide note saying that Julia drove her to it?

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by Anonymousreply 180April 28, 2021 2:32 PM

r176 Amy Adams took some flack on here for being a bore when, during one of those Hollywood Reporter(?) roundtables, she complained about the paparazzi following her when she was with her daughter, but I was completely on her side, she needs to take pointers from Jules if she wants to send a message, paps don't respond to niceness.

by Anonymousreply 181April 28, 2021 2:57 PM

R180 HOW DID I FORGET THAT! Holy shit Julia.

Julia is a Scorpio what do you expect. I know how DL love to boil it down to the astrology.

by Anonymousreply 182April 28, 2021 9:35 PM

I worked as a background actor on Code Black on a day when there were over two hundred others. Eric Roberts came back into the holding area and was personable and friendly, asking people general questions about themselves.

But the most surprising thing he did was walked over to the small set-up of snacks for the masses and made himself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on white bread.

by Anonymousreply 183April 29, 2021 4:38 AM

Not reading all of this, but in summation is she what ruin this movie?

by Anonymousreply 184April 29, 2021 4:41 AM

No, she's a minor distraction. The terrible script, wasted cast, insufferable, cutesy Lost Boys, a great performer who seems to be in a different film (Hoffman), snail slow pacing, disjointed, random but not in a spontaneous way, artificial but with no art, with absolutely no magic, clunky, sappy, overproduced yet not-much-to-show-for-it, and instantly forgettable, make it stillborn.

by Anonymousreply 185April 29, 2021 4:57 AM

Do Spielberg's films hold up? I watched ET during Christmas and it wasn't as good as I remember.

by Anonymousreply 186April 29, 2021 5:32 AM

Is Julia Roberts a sociopath?

Her niece seems like one.

by Anonymousreply 187April 29, 2021 6:03 AM

^Some do. Jaws, Close Encounters, Raiders of the Lost Ark. Others, not so much.

by Anonymousreply 188April 29, 2021 7:08 AM

I like Jaws, and The Sugarland Express with Goldie Hawn. But overall his films are much too sappy and sentimental for me. Big dramatic closeups and sweeping musical scores. As gorgeous as those scores are, there's too much artifice there. Most of his films tug far too aggressively at your heartstrings (in the most basic way), and in the end it usually takes me out of the film instead of working as intended. It's like he's behind the projector shouting "FEEL SOMETHING!", and in the end all those bells and whistles are a distraction from the story itself rather than an enhancement.

A filmmaker like Michael Haneke is the exact opposite. No score, no unnecessary heightening of the drama. Just pure human emotion and the facts and story laid bare. Like everything i'm sure it's a matter of taste. Mine is probably somewhere in the middle.

Oddly I do like The Terminal, where Spielberg leans heavily into those sentimental, 'magical' aspects. But I guess that film has a quirky, surrealist, novelistic quality to it that suits his filmmaking style.

by Anonymousreply 189April 29, 2021 12:13 PM

r8 HOOKed, indeed.

by Anonymousreply 190April 29, 2021 2:26 PM

We have Coretta Scott King to thank for bringing Julia's hooker with a heart of gold, mega-watt smile into the world

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by Anonymousreply 191April 29, 2021 5:48 PM

Caesar Chavez paid Brad Pitt’s preschool fees!

by Anonymousreply 192April 29, 2021 5:57 PM

Fannie Lou Hamer breastfeed AnnE Hathaway!

by Anonymousreply 193April 29, 2021 6:04 PM

Dolores Huerta was the crossing guard at Jason Bateman’s elementary school!

by Anonymousreply 194April 29, 2021 6:07 PM

Karen Silkwood was Natalie Wood’s childhood penpal!

by Anonymousreply 195April 29, 2021 6:09 PM

Tatum O'Neal blew Richard Speck

by Anonymousreply 196April 29, 2021 6:11 PM

The only thing Marilu Henner doesn't remember is to pick up the check!

by Anonymousreply 197April 29, 2021 6:17 PM

Thanks for ruining the thread, R197

by Anonymousreply 198April 29, 2021 6:20 PM

r175. The gossip magazine industry deliberately created "stars" like the Kardashians to report about them and these stars don't mind. As you pointed out, it's their bread and butter. So-called credible stars like Kate Beckinsale also call paps to get their picture taken making it look like they are still popular and in demand.

And since this is a Julia Robert thread, who can forget when Julia used magazine pictures to throw shade at her future husband's ex wife getting papped wearing a shirt saying "A Low Vera"?

A lot of stars complain about paparazzi, but they know that they are not only part of the being famous deal, but can be used to the individual celebrity's advantage to get some buzz going.

by Anonymousreply 199April 29, 2021 6:31 PM

"I told him that I knew Julia Roberts when I was twelve at summer camp" - Liz Phair "Chopsticks"

by Anonymousreply 200April 29, 2021 7:02 PM

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by Anonymousreply 201April 29, 2021 11:51 PM

R201 Do they call it the Devil’s Triangle, because you know, she’s the Devil?

by Anonymousreply 202April 30, 2021 12:30 AM

It's trashy of them to talk about it. Say what you will about her. But she has never talked about what she knows. Though she has claimed to love gossiping with Tom Hanks.

by Anonymousreply 203April 30, 2021 4:20 AM

Both were mean drunks, drug addled and abusive to her but she's the devil?

by Anonymousreply 204April 30, 2021 4:40 AM

I rewatched the movie recently for the first time in ages. It has its charms, definitely (a talented cast, great music) but the beginning is so bloated. Let us show you how crappy a dad Peter Pan became (for the 10th time). I'm sure someone somewhere can take the raw footage and edit it into a better movie.

by Anonymousreply 205April 30, 2021 4:42 AM

Let's face it. Neither one of these guys was willing to be the boyfriend because she had become so big they were never gonna be anything but despite them both having Hollywood family. Isn't Patric the grandson of Jackie Gleeson?

by Anonymousreply 206April 30, 2021 5:47 AM

Jason Miller of Exorcist fame is Patric's father too.

by Anonymousreply 207April 30, 2021 5:58 AM

Neither Jason nor Kiefer put down Julia at all in the interview. They just said they had both put the incident behind them.

by Anonymousreply 208April 30, 2021 6:12 AM

How do we know that Julia was a heroin addict? I was a kid when her movies were big so I missed this gossip. I'm surprised and I want to know more.

by Anonymousreply 209April 30, 2021 6:16 AM

Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts are the last studio stars. There won't be others. Stars just don't sell tickets anymore.

by Anonymousreply 210April 30, 2021 6:31 AM

R209 We don't "know" it, but it's been rumored for thirty years.

by Anonymousreply 211April 30, 2021 6:33 AM

R2 I always enjoy a documentary or analysis, but that was hard to get through, because the narrator's vocal cadence and inflection (particularly at the ends of phrases and sentences) were so incredibly annoying.

by Anonymousreply 212April 30, 2021 8:26 AM

[quote] Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts are the last studio stars. Stars just don't sell tickets anymore.

I think Jennifer Lawrence was the very last one. But she hit a wall and her affiliation with Weinstein ruined her career.

Even American Sweetheart Reese Witherspoon does Frau TV which you can normally find on Lifetime and Hallmark, but because it's Reese Fucking Witherspoon you have to get it on HBO or HULU. And it's award-winning.

by Anonymousreply 213April 30, 2021 8:40 AM

[quote]Julia Roberts was engaged to Kiefer Sutherland during filming. He cheated on her with a stripper. She cheated on him with his best friend, Jason Patric. Julia and Kiefer called off their wedding. Julia and Jason flew to Ireland in the middle of shooting the movie, throwing the entire production off schedule. Spielberg threatened to replace her with Meg Ryan or Michelle Pfeiffer.

I reckon this is all made-up PR bullshit to sell the film and carefully crafted and supported by everyone who worked on the film. Same as was done for the Twilight films.

by Anonymousreply 214April 30, 2021 9:25 AM

Jennifer Lawrence was not a movie star in the way Julia Roberts and Tom Cruise were/are. Her films cannot be categorized as hits because people went to see her. Yes, she's had many hits, but it's because of the IP of the film or something that caught the public's attention where she happened to be in the cast. If you look at the non-franchise films where Jennifer Lawrence was the main selling point, she's really never had a hit.

by Anonymousreply 215April 30, 2021 6:16 PM

r213 Big Little Lies was far and above some bullshit Hallmark movie.

by Anonymousreply 216April 30, 2021 6:19 PM

r216 It was from David E. Kelley, so not really.

by Anonymousreply 217April 30, 2021 8:22 PM

R214 This is common knowledge from various articles and entertainment news shows.

Steven Spielberg wouldn't mess up his schedule, and that of many other successful members of the cast, to risk his reputation for PR spin scandalizing an actress he has openly said he didn't enjoy working with and wouldn't cast again in any of his movies.

by Anonymousreply 218April 30, 2021 8:37 PM

Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts have zero of the charisma and charm that elevated them to where they are today

by Anonymousreply 219April 30, 2021 8:51 PM

r219, that is the magical power of Hollywood and its PR machinery. They convince us of something that isn't there.

by Anonymousreply 220April 30, 2021 8:53 PM

Julia Roberts was a powerhouse, don't pretend it was all PR.

by Anonymousreply 221April 30, 2021 9:00 PM

r221, what has

[quote] Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts have zero of the charisma and charm

to do with being a powerhouse?

by Anonymousreply 222April 30, 2021 9:05 PM

sorry, I didn't read your posts carefully enough - I should have said, more than anything, I think a certain drive and toughness is part of what elevated Cruise and Roberts to where they are today, you could count those qualities as a kind of charisma.

by Anonymousreply 223April 30, 2021 9:13 PM

r223, ambition, aka what drives people to do certain things, and charisma are two different things. Confidence on the other hand can be perceived as charming.

by Anonymousreply 224April 30, 2021 9:19 PM

Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts are charismatic though. Posters just don't like their work or personalities so they pretend they aren't. Thing is, plenty of people have charisma, looks, charm, etc. They don't have the drive or cleverness to get the right people to back them up though. That's the difference between those people and the Julia's of the world.

by Anonymousreply 225April 30, 2021 9:41 PM

Julia Roberts is still magnetic, I find this scene so cathartic

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by Anonymousreply 226April 30, 2021 10:07 PM

I think in their early years, Cruise and Roberts definitely had charisma. Roberts, in particular from Mystic Pizza to Sleeping with the Enemy was radiant on screen. I think her initial brush with fame got too much for her and then she developed too much of an ego so there was a sense of smugness in some of her later performances. But from '88 to '91 she was lovely to watch on screen. There is a reason she became a big star.

Same with Cruise - Risky Business, Top Gun, even Cocktail, he had lots of charisma. But, also back then, he had good handlers who were able to contain the crazy. When he let them go, it went to hell and many of us can't see him with that charismatic light anymore.

by Anonymousreply 227April 30, 2021 10:19 PM

Did you watch it r217? That's a ridiculous statement.

by Anonymousreply 228April 30, 2021 10:43 PM

r228 Yes, I watched it. It was glorified Lifetime frau crap. Hence why the Karens loved it.

by Anonymousreply 229April 30, 2021 11:22 PM

It was great r229 far removed from the Christmas Lifetime shit.

by Anonymousreply 230April 30, 2021 11:29 PM

The trash press was way different then than they are now. They put stupid reality stars on vacation on the covers of rags now. But they were brutal with Julia Roberts back then. It's not any wonder she had a complete meltdown.

by Anonymousreply 231May 1, 2021 3:26 AM

Good point r231.

by Anonymousreply 232May 1, 2021 3:34 AM

Spielberg was an idiot for casting her. I guess it seemed like a good idea at the time. She was the hottest young actress back then. But she was so totally WRONG to play a character like Tinker Bell. Gangly, horsey, huge mouthed Julia Roberts as a fairy? It just didn't work. You know who would have been perfect? Drew Barrymore. But she and Spielberg were on the outs (he didn't like her slutty, dissolute lifestyle) so he cast Roberts. He really should have known better. But I don't think Michelle Pheiffer would have been much better; she was too sexy. And Meg Ryan would have awful. She would have played up her cutely schtick and it would been nauseating.

by Anonymousreply 233May 1, 2021 3:36 AM

Winona Ryder was another who had a breakdown around the same time. I remember she had to drop out of THE GODFATHER III due to 'exhaustion.' She was being overworked and her engagement to Johnny Depp was tabloid fodder, especially since she was 18 and he 26 when they began dating.

by Anonymousreply 234May 1, 2021 3:40 AM

I agree with a poster up thread. The movie is not good, I did enjoy Hoffman and don't like the Roberts performance but do think she was lovely in the sequence with the big blue dress taliking to Peter. It's well delivered aside from the strung out, coked out look of the eyes.

by Anonymousreply 235May 1, 2021 3:42 AM

She really started to overdo the insufferable toothy grinning after Pretty Woman

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by Anonymousreply 236May 1, 2021 3:43 AM

How exactly is Tinkerbell described in the script, what is supposed to have been her life journey at this point? Who is she, who was she who does she hope to be?

by Anonymousreply 237May 1, 2021 3:45 AM

The shot of her fucked up walking out of a club with Ethan Hawke was when that shit looked at it's worse. She was about to come apart. She looked completely miserable and sad.

by Anonymousreply 238May 1, 2021 4:37 AM

Wasn't Herbert Ross very abusive to her filming Steel Magnolias?

by Anonymousreply 239May 1, 2021 6:46 AM

I’ve never heard Dear Jessie before. Sounds like McCartney had a hand in writing the song.

by Anonymousreply 240May 1, 2021 6:03 PM

R240, I believe he/The Beatles were the inspiration behind the song musically. Lyrically it's about Patrick Leonard's daughter.

by Anonymousreply 241May 1, 2021 9:07 PM

Penis Pan

by Anonymousreply 242May 1, 2021 9:34 PM

Julia's bad pixie cut ruined it alone

by Anonymousreply 243May 2, 2021 2:16 AM

I can't believe Spielberg can't let it go. If he cast her in a movie it would make huge headlines

by Anonymousreply 244May 2, 2021 8:09 AM

This just made me throw up in my mouth a little - ok, not a little, a lot, like full on barfing.

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by Anonymousreply 245May 2, 2021 5:43 PM

R245 how come?

by Anonymousreply 246May 2, 2021 5:50 PM

Rebecca de Mornay apparently lost the role of Tinkerbell. I wonder how she would have done. At the dawn of the '90s, she would have maybe been about C-list. Remember, Hook came out between Backdraft and The Hand That Rocks the Cradle, her comeback movies.

by Anonymousreply 247May 2, 2021 6:00 PM

Markle has an enormous Julia Roberts grin also. She looks like a crocodile when she grins.

by Anonymousreply 248May 2, 2021 6:41 PM

Backdraft was a comeback movie for De Mornay? Who even remembers she was in it?

by Anonymousreply 249May 2, 2021 7:04 PM

The Hand that Rocks the Cradle was a huge hit! It was #1 at the box office for like a month.

by Anonymousreply 250May 2, 2021 7:08 PM

Rebecca should have had a bigger career after Cradle. She's a solid actress.

But she picked trashy projects again that couldn't put her in the A-List.

by Anonymousreply 251May 2, 2021 7:14 PM

[quote] The Hand that Rocks the Cradle was a huge hit! It was #1 at the box office for like a month.

That's delightful, dear. But I said Backdraft.

by Anonymousreply 252May 2, 2021 7:18 PM

The Hand That Rocks the Cradle was the first time I saw Julianne Moore and I knew she was going to be a star.

by Anonymousreply 253May 2, 2021 7:21 PM

Rebecca De Mornay would have been a good choice for Tinker Bell. She's talented and has a pretty, ethereal look that would have served the part well.

Some trivia: Rebecca De Mornay was considered for the part of the dream girl Jill in the movie "Brazil." The director Terry Gilliam considered a lot of actresses for the role, most of which seem kind of ludicrous considering what type of role it was; the character in real life was a butch looking truck driver, as the dream girl she was floating around in a diaphanous white gown and had long, flowing hair. Among those actresses he considered were Jamie Lee Curtis, Ellen Barkin, Dawn Chong, Joanna Pakula, Rosanna Arquette, Kelly McGillis and even Madonna. He settled on an unknown actress named Kim Griest, who turned out to be such a pain in the ass that Gilliam kept cutting the role back so it turned out to be much less prominent that it orginally was. Too bad he didn't cast. De Mornay. I think she would have been perfect; she could have pulled off the butch truck driver Jill and would have made a lovely dream girl.

by Anonymousreply 254May 2, 2021 7:23 PM

YES R164.

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by Anonymousreply 255May 2, 2021 7:43 PM

Was Kiefer getting any dick in those days?

by Anonymousreply 256May 2, 2021 8:55 PM

R253 thank God it wasn't Body Of Evidence.

by Anonymousreply 257May 3, 2021 5:54 AM

"She's the one person almost as famous as me."

by Anonymousreply 258May 9, 2021 6:54 AM

I LOVE MY LIFE!

by Anonymousreply 259May 9, 2021 7:01 AM

Didn't Rupert Everett fall out of favor with both Julia and Madonna for his gossiping?

by Anonymousreply 260May 9, 2021 7:04 AM

When did Julia say "I love my life!" Is that a joke? A movie line? I don't get it.

by Anonymousreply 261May 10, 2021 7:04 PM

R261 when she presented the Best Actor Oscar to Denzel Washington in 2002. Throughout the entire awards season, she was Denzel's biggest cheerleader/supporter and even stated that she did not want to live in a world where she had an Oscar for Best Actress and Denzel didn't have one for Best Actor (though he had already won Best Supporting Actor). Anyway, when she opened the envelope, the first thing out of her mouth was "I love my life!" Thus, making the moment about her.

by Anonymousreply 262May 10, 2021 7:09 PM

R219 that's ridiculous. They may be annoying as fuck now but to say they never had charisma is absurd. They had HUGE charisma for a window of time. They're the last stars I can think of that people would say they were going to a Tom Cruise/Julia Roberts movie without even mentioning the title of of the movie. They were going to see a movie star. That will never happen again.

by Anonymousreply 263May 15, 2021 5:46 AM

"Hook" is one of the worst big budget Hollywood movies I've ever seen.

It was painful to watch.

by Anonymousreply 264May 15, 2021 5:59 AM

[quote] How young was she? She’s not a teenager. This was only 6 years before My Best Friend’s Wedding so she couldn’t have been that young.

SHE WAS A FUCKING ZYGOTE OK?

HAPPY NOW?

by Anonymousreply 265May 15, 2021 6:03 AM

Is she still America"s favorite actress? I remember she won like 10 People's Choice Awards in row or something.

by Anonymousreply 266May 15, 2021 6:31 AM

[quote]Robin Williams should've been casted as Hook...

Oh, DEAR!

by Anonymousreply 267May 15, 2021 6:38 AM

Her buddy Brad Pitt says she belongs between the two Hepburns but I think she's like top 6. The Hepburns and Monroe are bigger than her. Davis and Taylor too. I give her a 6

by Anonymousreply 268May 15, 2021 6:50 AM

"Casted" is a DL meme r267

by Anonymousreply 269May 15, 2021 7:07 AM

If we are talking dollars none of those actresses ever made as much money as Julia or had a bigger box office career. Julia Roberts is the only modern female star that her name above the title or before her male costars. She was actually bigger than all of them for a short period.

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by Anonymousreply 270May 15, 2021 7:15 AM

R95 What does it feel like to grin like that? Is that her natural grin or does she affect going EEEEEEEEEEE, baring all her teeth and gums?

by Anonymousreply 271May 15, 2021 7:47 AM

Julia is not bigger than the Hepburns or Monroe but she does have a better career than Bette Davis. Liz has better movies but not the box office.

by Anonymousreply 272May 15, 2021 8:19 AM

Some people just have grins like that, I immediately thought of Rebecca Romijn and then I realised John Stamos does as well.

by Anonymousreply 273May 15, 2021 8:35 AM

Julia needs a second Oscar to be a grande dame

by Anonymousreply 274May 15, 2021 8:37 AM

Julia needs a second Oscar because her thirst for fame and adoration is unquenchable.

by Anonymousreply 275May 15, 2021 8:40 AM

Only from the few clips I've seen, I thought she was showcased so well in "August: Osage County" - a true Stah! - She needs to hire whoever convinced her to do that picture.

by Anonymousreply 276May 15, 2021 8:40 AM

All the big stars get two Oscars

by Anonymousreply 277May 15, 2021 8:44 AM

Lupita stole her second Oscar

by Anonymousreply 278May 15, 2021 10:00 AM

Julia will get a second Oscar. All the big ones do. Sooner or later.

by Anonymousreply 279May 15, 2021 10:02 AM

R273 I agree for some it's natural, but I also think a lot of Hollywood types affect that bared-teeth grin. It's odd, like the way kids self-consciously smile for photos: say CHEEESE. The other thing they do is the open-mouthed "oh HAHAHA I'm having the BEST time" expression, like they've just heard the most outrageous joke. I assume it's all practiced.

by Anonymousreply 280May 15, 2021 12:49 PM

Similar to the "woman laughing at salad" pose that is done so often. No one loves salad that much.

by Anonymousreply 281May 15, 2021 12:58 PM

I once worked with a famous photographer, and when he himself posed for a photo, he'd just open his mouth in the salad-laugh expression. Supposed to look happening and glamorous, I guess?

by Anonymousreply 282May 15, 2021 1:29 PM

[quote]"Casted" is a DL meme [R267]

Barely, I've been here since '99, and one can tell when it's in on the joke, or simply....casted!

by Anonymousreply 283May 15, 2021 3:27 PM

Don't lose sleep over it hon r283

by Anonymousreply 284May 15, 2021 4:29 PM

Christy Turlington has mentioned the "time of your life" smile that she and other models used a lot in the 90s

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by Anonymousreply 285May 15, 2021 5:36 PM

[quote]Didn't Rupert Everett fall out of favor with both Julia and Madonna for his gossiping?

I think what did his friendship in with Julia was The Next Best Thing premiere. She was dating Benjamin Bratt at the time, and showed up to support both Bratt and Rupert. Madonna was reportedly pissed that Julia was getting as much, if not more media attention than she was when she arrived with Guy and Rupert. Julia went up to Rupert and congratulated him and formally introduced herself to Madonna. Madonna snapped "I know you who are" and walked away. Rupert tried to make some excuse to Julia about Madonna' being nervous over the movie being a hit, but Julia was not happy that Rupert didn't say something to Madge.

I think the Madonna friendship just ran out of steam.

by Anonymousreply 286May 15, 2021 5:46 PM

R285 I tend to think Marilyn Monroe was the one who really got it going.

At least it’s better than the Keira Knightley mouth half open thing. Or the Zellweger pursed-lip smile.

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by Anonymousreply 287May 15, 2021 5:59 PM

R287 or the Goldie Hawn top AND bottom teeth trying to make her jaw look wider smile.

by Anonymousreply 288May 15, 2021 6:22 PM

R288 Yes, I touched on that one in my post at R280. That seems to be a thing now. You’re right, Goldie was a pioneer.

Here’s Brian Stelter doing it, though of course not as hard as Goldie and Julia.

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by Anonymousreply 289May 15, 2021 6:34 PM

Even if he didn't want to go with Drew, he could have went with any of the following:

Martha Plimpton

Sandy Duncan

Lisa Whelchel

Beverly D Angelo

Sharon Gless

Cybill Shepherd

Cheryl Ladd

by Anonymousreply 290May 15, 2021 8:58 PM

I like the idea of Meg Ryan as Tinker Bell. She always seemed like a sprite to me.

by Anonymousreply 291May 15, 2021 9:09 PM

r290 From Martha Plimton to Cybill Shepherd? So, literally anyone.

by Anonymousreply 292May 15, 2021 9:58 PM

Attractive, busty blondes. R292

by Anonymousreply 293May 15, 2021 10:28 PM

[quote]Don't lose sleep over it hon [R283]

Well, at least now you've learned that the past participle of cast is "cast"

by Anonymousreply 294May 15, 2021 10:38 PM

Madonna always seemed to find it hard to believe she was never going to be a movie star.

by Anonymousreply 295May 18, 2021 4:02 AM

I know, R295. It's sad, really.

by Anonymousreply 296May 18, 2021 6:42 AM

[quote]he could have went with any of the following

I think you mean "he could OF went."

by Anonymousreply 297May 18, 2021 9:28 PM

R7 you failed to mention a wedding that 20th Century Fox was flipping the bill for and was to take place on the Fox lot if I remember correctly. Miss Thing just swatted that away.

by Anonymousreply 298May 21, 2021 6:08 AM

R286 the press was at a movie premiere of course they flocked to the actual movie star even if she wasn't even in the movie.

by Anonymousreply 299May 22, 2021 6:14 AM

Since every thread comes back to Madonna, the epic and legendary "I'm Breathless" was released thirty-one years ago today on May 22, 1990

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by Anonymousreply 300May 22, 2021 10:42 PM

Kiefer and Jason should have just hooked up and told her to get lost. There was way more chemistry between them than either man with her. The relationship between their characters in Lost Boys was so homoerotic. The whole movie is one pretty gay.

by Anonymousreply 301May 22, 2021 11:13 PM

Well Joel Schumacher was the director R301

by Anonymousreply 302May 23, 2021 2:14 AM

Who wins a bitch off between Miss Julia and Madonna?

by Anonymousreply 303May 23, 2021 2:29 AM

Two nasty spoiled mean drunks abusing an ingenue and the DL sides with them. Really?

by Anonymousreply 304May 23, 2021 2:35 AM

Well who you going pick instead The Coreys?

by Anonymousreply 305May 23, 2021 2:37 AM

R304 Literally no one has made an accusation of abuse against anyone. Stop spreading lies.

by Anonymousreply 306May 23, 2021 3:11 AM

R 306 you're right. Everyone knows Julia is no shrinking violet. A cuntess de jour is nobody's victim.

by Anonymousreply 307May 23, 2021 3:14 AM

Julia's Ingenue SELL-BY date had passed and spoiled by her asshole behavior during "Hook"

by Anonymousreply 308May 23, 2021 3:15 AM

She was still hugely successful after that incident. She got a second chance and didn't misstep after making her the America"s Sweetheart most people remember now.

by Anonymousreply 309May 23, 2021 3:19 AM

Seriously though. This scene had so many gay undertones. Especially when he sucks on the bottle the second time. Joel knew what he was doing.

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by Anonymousreply 310May 23, 2021 3:21 AM

I think The Lost Boys and Flatliners were both very entertaining. Flatlinesr made money because it came on the heals of Pretty Woman but all the young actors are wonderful in it and it was entertaining for what it was. An idea movie. What if we all die for a little while and then... It was very movie genre but it was entertaining as a horror/thriller movie. It had vaery gothic look and style and wonderful sound. Good brat packer2.0 thriller. The next generation who would actually have careers. Julia Roberts, Kiefer Sutherland, Kevin Bacon, William Baldwin, Oliver Platt. All went to great to decent careers.

by Anonymousreply 311May 23, 2021 3:32 AM

R311 Robert Sean Leonard turned down a part in that (along with a lot of other commercial movies on the heels of Dead Poets). Actors say it a lot as bullshit of their careers don’t go well but he really is an actor who “could have been” a biggest star if he had made the choices his agents wanted him to make.

Sorry that’s a little off subj.

by Anonymousreply 312May 23, 2021 3:39 AM

Didn’t Flatliners get a big push being Natalie Wood’s last movie?

by Anonymousreply 313May 23, 2021 3:44 AM

Jason Patric was so fucking pretty in Los Boys I bet Joel was just looking for a place to show his ass.

by Anonymousreply 314May 23, 2021 3:48 AM

Colin Farrell. Did it

by Anonymousreply 315May 23, 2021 3:49 AM

Guarantee Spielberg would work with her again today. They've had the same agency for 30 years. They have probably spent more than 1,000 hours socializing together at this point.

She was a 22 yr old drug addict at the time. In what was a very short period of inability to perform on the job. No idea if she totally left drugs behind or became a more functional addict. But studios werent worried about her falling off the wagon nor did she (while working at least) in the 30 years since Hook

by Anonymousreply 316May 23, 2021 3:51 AM

Robert Sean Leonard was a series regular on House, which ran for almost 10 years, so he did okay.

by Anonymousreply 317May 23, 2021 3:51 AM

I still think the RSL character in Dead Poets Society was meant to be down low gay and they were cowards which annoys me that the screenwriter won an Oscar. If the movie was made today that character would've been gay and no one would've even thought a thing about it.

by Anonymousreply 318May 23, 2021 4:14 AM

R317 definitely, but not a star. And he’s probably totally fine with that.

by Anonymousreply 319May 23, 2021 4:38 AM

When this thread is filled, will the next one mocking a different Julia movie?

by Anonymousreply 320May 23, 2021 4:50 AM

I found this a fun gossipy thread. I myself learned some fun bit of gossip. I mean I know our Julia. But she really has always been all drama. All those kind always are.

by Anonymousreply 321May 23, 2021 4:53 AM

Her best drama was that Harriet Tubman movie.

by Anonymousreply 322May 23, 2021 4:59 AM

Julia can play Michelle Obama and Kamala Harris if needed.

by Anonymousreply 323May 23, 2021 5:03 AM

Isn't Queen Julia still ountess supreme. Her Q rating abroad is still above most actresses. And the fraus still adore her. You can't convince one she is mean slut

by Anonymousreply 324May 29, 2021 4:53 AM

[quote]I still think the RSL character in Dead Poets Society was meant to be down low gay and they were cowards which annoys me that the screenwriter won an Oscar. If the movie was made today that character would've been gay and no one would've even thought a thing about it.

Within the movie they would have cared, since the story takes place in 1959. Thus, having them be out and proud and everyone be cool with it would have rung false.

by Anonymousreply 325May 29, 2021 6:01 AM

I still can’t believe she was on junk. That’s kind of gritty for a chick like her. Everything about her screams cocaine.

by Anonymousreply 326May 29, 2021 7:02 AM

Did she and Whitney Houston ever compare stories?

by Anonymousreply 327May 29, 2021 7:06 AM

R326 And earlier posters.....where did this "Julia was on heroin" gossip come from?

by Anonymousreply 328May 29, 2021 11:42 PM

R328, 25 years later it is not easy to figure out where the Julia on heroin gossip came from. But it was very widely disseminated and believed within the entertainment industry.

by Anonymousreply 329May 30, 2021 10:24 PM

I know this thread is about Julia, but does anyone have any inside dirt on Kiefer or Jason?

by Anonymousreply 330May 30, 2021 10:40 PM

R330 sometime last year it was revealed that Jason Patric was actually a cardboard cut-out

by Anonymousreply 331May 30, 2021 11:12 PM

R326 I totally agree - I totally can buy she was hooked on drugs, but it’s hard for me to swallow that Heelon was her drug of choice. But who knows. I was I think 13 and just reading the same US weeklies and Star Magazines as everyone else.

by Anonymousreply 332May 30, 2021 11:21 PM

R332 Way off topic, but US (bi-weekly at that time) and Star Magazine in the 80s were the two best gossip magazines ever and nothing like they became post-2000 when Bonnie Fuller turned both of them into cosmetic and beauty-focused nothingness

by Anonymousreply 333May 30, 2021 11:30 PM

What the fuck is Heelon, is that the Rodeo Drive version of heroin that you buy in the alley behind Van Cleef & Arpels?

by Anonymousreply 334May 30, 2021 11:34 PM

I wish W&W still existed for posts like R334.

by Anonymousreply 335May 30, 2021 11:55 PM

R334 wtf i have no clue how autocorrect changed it from heroin to, um, THAT...maybe it will be the name of a prescription drug one day. Whoops.

by Anonymousreply 336May 31, 2021 12:10 AM

If Julia wasn’t on the designer drug Heelon during the ‘80s, she’ll surly be taking it in her ‘80s to manage the fibromyalgia and rheumatoid arthritis.

by Anonymousreply 337May 31, 2021 12:14 AM

R334, you stupid bitch.

There was no Van Cleef and Arpels in the valley!

You bitch!

by Anonymousreply 338May 31, 2021 12:17 AM

I would pay good money to see them show off a box of jewels and snap it shut when Julia reaches for it. Bitch wouldn’t laugh at that, that’s for sure.

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by Anonymousreply 339May 31, 2021 12:22 AM

Gary practically says she was “nodding off” from all the partying and he had Richard do that to snap her out of it.

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by Anonymousreply 340May 31, 2021 12:27 AM

This thread went from being about “Hook,” to being about Julia who was hooked.

by Anonymousreply 341May 31, 2021 12:29 AM

Julia passive aggressively showing her inner controlling bitch to Patricia Arquette interviewing her at 8:12

"You have your paper. I have to say something about people with paper...."

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by Anonymousreply 342June 9, 2021 7:42 PM

Ryan Murphy's next miniseries should be the "A Low Vera" saga with Sarah Paulson as Julia

by Anonymousreply 343June 9, 2021 8:02 PM

I ran into her at a local agricultural fair in CT in ~2006-2007. She was with her incredibly fug twins and was loudly berating that dime a dozen husband she bought herself. He pushed the stroller & cowered slightly. There was no mistaking it was her from the size of her mouth, even with her hair under a big hat and sunglasses on. Hope he got paid well sticking around with that shrew.

by Anonymousreply 344June 9, 2021 8:09 PM

JR would've been pregnant at the time, you judgemental shrew.

by Anonymousreply 345June 9, 2021 8:20 PM

Has anyone seen Peaky Blinders?

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by Anonymousreply 346June 9, 2021 8:28 PM

Oh god, they’re not going to ask her to pull out her stinky old cockney accent again are they?

by Anonymousreply 347June 9, 2021 8:29 PM

I didn't know she had one! If Jules goes full Dick Van Dyke, I will watch.

by Anonymousreply 348June 9, 2021 8:32 PM

r345 Phinnaeus and Hazel Moder were born in November 2004. The twins are Julia's oldest children with Danny.

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by Anonymousreply 349June 9, 2021 8:34 PM

Eric Roberts gives some insight what it was like growing up with his tough absent father and distant submissive mother

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by Anonymousreply 350June 9, 2021 8:37 PM

R348 Maybe it was Irish, I don’t know what the hell she was trying to pull off here, only that it was atrocious.

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by Anonymousreply 351June 9, 2021 8:50 PM

Bob Hoskins and Helen Mirren

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by Anonymousreply 352June 9, 2021 10:54 PM

R346 Miss Roberts does not do television but we appreciate the offer. Need any DPs?

by Anonymousreply 353June 11, 2021 6:53 PM

R353

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by Anonymousreply 354June 11, 2021 7:03 PM

r353 Oh honey, she's about to do a show for Starz. It's okay, we know you have little to no interest in your wife.

by Anonymousreply 355June 11, 2021 7:05 PM

Isn't La Roberts above it all. Especially TV.

by Anonymousreply 356June 12, 2021 3:15 AM

Julia did a series on Amazon already.

by Anonymousreply 357June 12, 2021 3:39 AM

America's movie queen doing television, I don't see it.

by Anonymousreply 358June 12, 2021 4:04 AM

Julia did an Amazon series called Homecoming. It was ok.

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by Anonymousreply 359June 12, 2021 4:23 AM

She was actually quite good in Homecoming. And deglamorized.

by Anonymousreply 360June 12, 2021 4:36 AM

I once had a dream where Sandy Dennis was Tinker Bell in Spielberg's Hook.

It was the funniest dream I've ever had. like a fantastic comedy sketch.

I wish you could record dreams.

by Anonymousreply 361June 12, 2021 4:58 AM

Will there ever be another America's Sweetheart or did that title die?

by Anonymousreply 362June 12, 2021 5:08 AM

La Roberts doesn't do TV does she? WTF??

by Anonymousreply 363June 18, 2021 3:36 AM

I don't get the hate. The gays love bitches like her. Yes she's a bit of a bitch. But she's THE movie star of the last 20 years. The fraus all still love her. My sister is a huge frau and Julia Roberts is still her favorite actress.

by Anonymousreply 364June 18, 2021 5:03 AM

"I got moves you've never seen...."

by Anonymousreply 365June 18, 2021 6:57 AM

We need a Julia Roberts-free edit of Hook

by Anonymousreply 366July 25, 2021 4:11 AM

[QUOTE] Will there ever be another America's Sweetheart or did that title die?

*cough*

by Anonymousreply 367July 25, 2021 4:30 AM

She believed her own press at this point

by Anonymousreply 368July 31, 2021 4:04 AM

Honey she was the most pursued star at that time. She was the biggest tabloid person before social media. The hype wasn't in her own mind. And she was brutalized by the press.

by Anonymousreply 369August 19, 2021 6:00 AM

[quote] Who would have played Tinkerbell in the musical version? Liza?

Mandy Patinkin.

by Anonymousreply 370August 19, 2021 6:16 AM

[quote] Honey she was the most pursued star at that time. She was the biggest tabloid person before social media. The hype wasn't in her own mind. And she was brutalized by the press.

The poor dear!

by Anonymousreply 371August 19, 2021 6:16 AM

Julia is a multi millionaire a couple f hundred million times over. It's very hard to care if the press treated her badly. And she's not saint. Bitch has always given as good as she ever got.

by Anonymousreply 372August 19, 2021 6:20 AM

When I think of history's greatest victims, Julia Roberts is right up there! How she has suffered in her life!

by Anonymousreply 373August 19, 2021 7:10 AM

Needs to retire for a few more years. She's not the greatest actress. And I've seen August: Osage County.

by Anonymousreply 374August 20, 2021 7:44 AM

You have to respect Eric Roberts for staying down-to-earth and his self-proclaimed never say no to a job attitude when he was outshined by his little sister, and now his daughter is making millions

by Anonymousreply 375August 20, 2021 11:12 PM

The wig on Julia Roberts was horrible. Akin to Jodie Foster's wig in The Accused. Also akin to Sharon Stone's wig in the second half of Casino.

by Anonymousreply 376August 21, 2021 12:27 AM

R375 he's basically a hooker. If you meet his day rate and don't make him puke, he'll do your movie. It's always funny to me to see indie filmmakers brag about getting him for their film.

by Anonymousreply 377August 21, 2021 12:43 AM

Eric Roberts in a movie means absolutely nothing. Even his sister's name can't help the dude now. He's fucking crazy too.

by Anonymousreply 378October 6, 2021 4:09 AM

I lost interest in Julia years ago, but would be interested in a pseudo-documentary style movie with her and Eric about estranged siblings coming home and dealing with each other

by Anonymousreply 379October 6, 2021 4:35 AM
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