Tinker Hell: Julia Roberts in "Hook"
"It was an unfortunate time for us to work together" - Steven Spielberg
Julia Roberts was engaged to Kiefer Sutherland during filming. He cheated on her with a stripper. She cheated on him with his best friend, Jason Patric. Julia and Kiefer called off their wedding. Julia and Jason flew to Ireland in the middle of shooting the movie, throwing the entire production off schedule. Spielberg threatened to replace her with Meg Ryan or Michelle Pfeiffer.
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Ed Bradley / 60 Minutes: "Would you have any hesitation about working with her again?
Steven Spielberg: (Laughing) "This is a 60 Minutes question, isn't it?"
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Yesterworld: The Troubled History of Steven Spielberg's "Hook" - A Classic That Should've Been
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And on top of all of that - it was an absolutely terrible movie - with or without all the drama going on in the background.
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Julia Roberts was a right slut. How could she even walk in the 90’s with all of the cock she was riding?
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Because of Julia Roberts's unpredictable behavior and leaving the country in the middle of filming, the budget and time scheduled to complete the movie literally doubled
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Hook is a HORRIBLE film. Spielberg's worst. Overlong, unfocused, totally without imagination. Scenes just ramble on. The definition of "dead on arrival".
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Imagine leaving the country on an unplanned trip to Europe with your brand-new boyfriend days after you call off your wedding to a different guy while you're shooting a starring role in a Steven Spielberg movie and you don't get fired
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Wasnt that bitch Julia also hooked on heroin during the shoot?
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Always and Hook are two of Spielberg's worst films. I admit I am not a big fan of the Peter Pan story but Hook has zero magic. It should have been fun but I remember being bored when I saw it back in the early '90s.
Spielberg pressed the reset button and came back strong with Jurassic Park and Schindler's List in 1993.
I think Meg or Michelle would have been better. Roberts just looked so out of place in this film.
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Spielberg has said that it should have been a musical like he always intended. Obviously Julia Roberts would have never been cast if it were.
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Who would have played Tinkerbell in the musical version? Liza?
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Dustin Hoffman was fantastic in this film. But otherwise, I don't care for it.
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I WAS cast in a musical, a Woody Allen musical!
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Taylor Swift is Tinker Bell
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The Glenn cameo always gave me the creeps.
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Michelle Pfeiffer has sung in movies
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Julia Roberts was coasting on this movie based on her popularity which was at it's height. Didn't see the movie but I did see one or two scenes she was in with her and her big horsey laugh. Ghastly.
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She was totally miscast as Tinkerbell.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/24/2021|
Guess i'm the only one who doesn't hate Hook. Don't think i can even blame it on nostalgia.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/24/2021|
Meg Ryan & Michelle Pfeiffer got a lucky break not appearing in this turkey.
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Meg Ryan would have been much more Tinkerbell-y than horsey Julia.
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R20 I like it too, despite its faults!
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That would never happen today, a little person would demand representation in the role.
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"A Low Vera" showed the world her true nature as a mean girl
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Oh fuck, the gaggle of every-race-possible "Lost Boys" R25 with their hideous late 80"s (okay, it was 1991) hair and costumes. It was dated even then. Pandering at it's worst.
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She’s the most strung out Tinkerbell ever, what was she on during this shoot?
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R28 everything but roller skates.
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Meg Ryan would have made a darling Tinker Bell. She was at a perfect point at her career back then.
I vaguely remember this whole thing and it somehow turned me off of Julia Roberts. Even when the producers or whoever found her she wound up turning in a horrible performance which I assume was Methadone induced.
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R4 I'll never understand how she held on to that "America's Sweetheart" title for so long.
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She would been more accurately cast as Peter Pan with her Hillary Swank in "Boys Don't Cry" haircut and regional theatre Pippen tattered-understudy costume
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Leonardo DiCaprio was very close to being cast in the role that went to Charlie Korsmo
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Julia was/is a strapping lass so, in addition to all the drama behind the scenes, she was not suited to play a petite fairy.
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R35 that cough might be a sign you’ve caught covid19. You seem to have already lost your sense of taste.
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Christina Ricci might have been a fun Tinkerbell.
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She’s obviously not very enthusiastic while promoting it:
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Hook isn’t a good film, but it inspired one of the best scores John Williams ever wrote. And for that, I’m grateful it was made.
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R39 I agree. "You are the Pan" is a beautiful piece of music.
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[quote]Dustin Hoffman was fantastic in this film.
Bob Hoskins did a pretty good job too.
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[quote]Guess i'm the only one who doesn't hate Hook. Don't think i can even blame it on nostalgia.
No, you’re not the only one.
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The film is the definition of INSUFFERABLE.
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Since Madonna has inevitably been mentioned, she probably was with Warren Beatty as he came by Sony Studios to tour five entire soundstages used for the Hook sets
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I just don't understand the appeal of Julia Roberts, though I can only really look at it in hindsight, being too young at the time. I recently watched Notting Hill because I had never seen it but heard so much about it, and not only is it a terrible film, but I realised that she is a terrible actress! Why was she so popular?
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Have you seen Mystic Pizza?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||04/24/2021|
The only film I ever liked her in was "Mary Reilly". It got mostly terrible reviews, but she's good in it. Deglamorized, subtle and vulnerable.
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I just checked her IMDB and I have seen 6 of her movies, all from the 1990s, the most recent being the Pelican Brief from 1993.
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1941 is as bad a film as Hook or Always. Loud, bombastic, and unfunny.
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I'm sure we can all agree she would've made a fine Harriet Tubman!
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What a piece of shit that film is.
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She used heroin while making this movie.
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The Bar Bush of Hollywood.
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The official version of Roberts' problems filming Hook was all the drama going on in her personal life. But everyone knew the real problem was her drug use at the time. She'd show up late, if at all, day after day, Spielberg would film her for hours on end without getting a usable take. It's not a good film but it does have its charms, as mentioned above.
1941 is a very flawed film that I wouldn't recommend to most people but I adore it. It too has its charms despite not working overall.
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Roberts had a one-movie heroin habit? That seems a bit far fetched.
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1941 at least has a sense or chaotic fun. Hook is a dead fish.
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I thought Tinkerbelle was hooked on absinthe not heroin?
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R57, Roberts had huge breaks in between films in the early to mid-1990s which I assume was the consequence of some personal 'issues', whatever they may be. I know My Best Friend's Wedding in 1997 was considered a comeback film for her.
Also, more important than anything else, Hook was Goop's film debut thanks to her Godfather (who knew Jewish people had/were Godparents) Spielberg.
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I guess Julia just decided he wasn’t a Kiefer.
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I remember as a child (10 years old) just being utterly confused with this film. It was about Captain Hook and Peter Pan but Peter wasn't a boy anymore and he had grown up and had forgotten about Neverland... It was just to overly intellectual a film attached to a story universally known as something else.
Even if it focused more on Captain Hook and his motivations, it still should've been a live action version of the story Disney had already told us decades before. Robin Williams should've been casted as Hook with a teen cast (think of the Harry Potter kids) and a twink-looking young adult as Peter.
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Yes the Kiefer years was the heroin period. And when she became insanely thin and doing everything and everyone under the sun. She caused all sorts of drama on the set of Hook and Steven Spielberg has never forgiven her for it. Vowed never to work with her again. Which is strange when a longtime collaborater like Tom Hanks is one of Julia's closest Hollywood friends. She's very good friends with Rita. too.
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R64 I was going to say (to the poster who said she was “strapping”) that she was very thin then and in the Pretty Woman period in general. I never bought it but an excerpt from Garry Marshall’s book mentioned that she was starving while making Pretty Woman and passed out a couple times.
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I think I remember reading somewhere Garry had a talk with her after learning she was having a dry can of tuna a day during filming or something like that.
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I think those initial years of becoming famous were really difficult for her. Now, Roberts may be a bitch, but she was a huge deal especially during '89 to '91 and I'm sure dealing with that fast rise to fame was very challenging. She was everywhere and she had a number of hit movies, and she was still in her early 20s.
With the exception of The Pelican Brief, she really couldn't get the momentum going again until My Best Friend's Wedding. And by then she seemed like she had gotten her shit together.
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Why is she so big in OP’s pic? She’s like human sized.
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It would be nice if Spielberg would let it go and do something interesting with her and Tom.
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Hook had the greatest teaser trailer.
Then the movie came out.
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Drew Barrymore would have been ideal. She is his goddaughter.
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I watched August Osage and didn't get what all the hoopla was about?? But i do wonder what the set dynamic was like between Meryl and Julia? I also wonder if Julia had any fun with Dermot???
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It was a blow to Spielberg's ego as mentioned upthread that he had to tolerate her bad behavior. And probably why he can't let it go. Fox was never gonna fire the biggest movie star on the planet of the time. He probably views it as a huge disrespect.
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Did Robin Williams ever speak about working with Julia? The last time I saw Hook, I wondered how things would have gone if they made another movie.
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[quote]Drew Barrymore would have been ideal. She is his goddaughter.
They met when he was casting E.T.
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OP photo says it all: Julia big-mouthed mugging Pretty Woman-style somewhere off-camera while Steven looks patiently at her having another attention-seeking self-serving moment, not at wherever she has directed her attention, which should be on him.
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Steven was also not used to drama on his sets. And to this point he hadn't worked with huge stars of this magnitude who could be difficult. Maybe a stoned Harrison Ford but who else?
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Only a total narcissist with no empathy would be okay upending the work schedules of Steven Spielberg, Robin Williams, Dustin Hoffman, Bob Hoskins, Maggie Smith and Phil Collins when they were all riding high in their careers
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R78 thats what one big fat giant movie can let you get away with.
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To be fair I do think she's chilled over the years. I'm sure she's still lives the life of a movie star. But probably more chill.
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[quote] Only a total narcissist with no empathy would be okay upending the work schedules of Steven Spielberg, Robin Williams, Dustin Hoffman, Bob Hoskins, Maggie Smith and Phil Collins when they were all riding high in their careers
This makes me like her a lot less. I never knew she was like this. The absolute gall of her. Well, I never. I’m afraid to be even late for work while I’m working from home!
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R81 she was very young and at the very height of ridiculous fame. That's not excuse for her appalling behavior. And Steven Spielberg has every right to hold that grudge. But she was very young.
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Aww....Julia is so dear to Bobbie here.
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I wonder why heroin instead of cocaine? Outside of the music industry it seems curious for a young female star to get into that. Was Kiefer and/or Jason into it?
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R84 both. There's a reason Patric was so good in Rush.
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[quote] [R81] she was very young and at the very height of ridiculous fame. That's not excuse for her appalling behavior. And Steven Spielberg has every right to hold that grudge. But she was very young.
How young was she? She’s not a teenager. This was only 6 years before My Best Friend’s Wedding so she couldn’t have been that young.
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Julia thought she and Jason Patric were this sexy, sizzling couple when really they seemed like boring, attention-seeking model types who called each other "babe"
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She was 23-24 when she worked with Spielberg
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Fuck Patric was hot as fuck before he went crazier
|by Anonymous||reply 89||04/24/2021|
She was getting dick back. Not like that "other" America's Sweetheart lesbo Sandy B.
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Kiefer dodged that bullet
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Steven should learn to forgive.
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Isn't Kiefer a drunk and crazy? Who dodged the bullet?
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My god, that mouth at R91. How is it even humanly possible? It’s like the Joker mixed with Audrey II mixed with the Alien.
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With the unflattering hairstyle at R91 and too-large grin, Julia looks like an insufferable entitled soccer mom
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I'd forgotten Julia cutting her hair to match Kiefer. That was...a choice.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||04/24/2021|
It was a thing in the 90's. Ew.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||04/24/2021|
R98 the matching jawbones is too much.
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R99 I don’t like that shape face on a woman, at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||04/25/2021|
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Glenn Close's cameo as Gutless the Pirate. Gutless is the pirate Hook has locked into the Boo Box.
No, I'm not making this up.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||04/25/2021|
Julia wasn't his first bad experience with a big name. On "Duel" one of his first movies, he worked with Dennis Weaver who apparently was a monumental diva/prick. After that he worked with mostly no-names or friends for years.
But resolve weakens, big casting beckons and one day Junkie Julia is Tinkerbell.
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R102 or they just didn't bother to read the thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||04/25/2021|
I watched Duel the last time I was on a plane, travelling somewhere. I thought it was a pretty effective little film.
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Another vote for the truly magical score by John Williams.
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Agree, R105. Duel is quite good, especially for a TV movie.
A few years later, Spielberg used the roaring sound of the truck going over the cliff (spoiler alert, oops, too late) in the sound mix of Bruce the shark getting blown up (spoiler...hell, these movies are nearly 50 years old, sue me) at the end of Jaws.
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I’m another fan of Mary Reilly. There’s no JULIA ROBERTS in her performance. It’s like watching a different actress.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||04/25/2021|
What happened to Julia Roberts? I can't think of a think she's done since August Osage and wasn't that like 10 years ago? Weird how she's the same age as Kidman and Kidman is everywhere and Roberts is....?
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"Hook" is so dreadful. They made Never-Never Land look like the Beverly Center.
Everyone in that movie was wrong--Julia, Robin Williams, and--the real whopper--runty Dustin Hoffman as Capt. Hook.
I seem to remember that there was talk of Michael Jackson playing Peter Pan--this was right after "Thriller." Now that could have been something....
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Someone might have mentioned this already but i heard she turned up with a shitty haircut for the role too and Spielburg hated it.
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I actually love this movie. I was a big fan of Peter Pan and i loved so much about this film. I was very young. I had a thing for Rufio and he was an older man in my eyes. I always hated Julia in it. She was a little ugly bitch fly and tinkerbell was nothing like her. I only just found out Glenn Close was in it. Seems weird somehow to use her there as a man too. Dustin was great in it.
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Dustin Hoffman and Bob Hoskins played their characters as if they were a gay couple. Steven Spielberg wasn't amused when he found out.
I am surprised that Steven ever decided to direct another movie again after having so much trouble with this one. Of course, he never learned and then did a movie with Tom Cruise who pitched Scientology tents on his film set!
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R113 Ha! Holy shit that is really funny to know and easy to see now you say it. Smee definitely seem obsessed with Hook in an unhealthy way. He knew how to sooth his moody man.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||04/25/2021|
I'm sure Kiefer considers Julia a dodged bullet as it would have been another guaranteed divorce
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Does Kiefer even remember that he once dated Julia Roberts? Or is that why he drank so much back in the days?
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R110, you are a gem for this: "Hook" is so dreadful. They made Never-Never Land look like the Beverly Center.
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Kiefer is hated by literally everybody. I was reading Shohreh Aghdashloo's book during quarantine and even someone as diplomatic as her had to admit he was a nightmare on '24.'
It doesn't excuse Roberts' lack of professionalism, but I think he also had a hand in the 'Hook' production drama.
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I think Julia just works when she feels like it. She’s got a hot hubby and kids and I doubt she’s hurting for money.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||04/25/2021|
Always gets a bad rap. Yeah, it's cheesy, but it's classic "tug at your hearstrings" Spielberg. You can tell a lot of love and care when into making it.
I lost interest in his movies after Schindler's List. It's like once he finally got the acclaim he deserved, he "grew up" so to speak and starting making standard adult fare. He lost the magic that made his earlier films so endearing.
That was painfully apparent when he revisited Indiana Jones with Shia Lebeouf.
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I believe both Steven Spielberg and George Lucas lost their envelope pushing nerd appeal when they became part of the Hollywood establishment. Basically, greedy sell outs. I think the manipulative pulling at viewers' heartstrings movie E.T was the turning point for Spielberg.
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Off topic but Bobbie Wygant always annoyed the fuck out of me.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||04/25/2021|
Slightly OT: I was dumped the night I saw Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. The worst part of the experience was seeing Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
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R119 she loves her life!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 124||04/25/2021|
A movie starring Robin WIlliams as Peter Pan, and we're fretting over Julia Roberts?
|by Anonymous||reply 125||04/25/2021|
But who played the crocodile?
|by Anonymous||reply 126||04/25/2021|
They should have left Indiana Jones at the Last Crusade. A great ending. But the last one was a piece of shit. The only good thing was seeing Karen Allen again but they basically wasted her.
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And now they're going to the well AGAIN, R127. 🙄
|by Anonymous||reply 128||04/25/2021|
I know r128. Let it go. I love the Indy movies but they proved they can't go back. Even Shitty Shia's comments were much-needed. It was a piece of shit and Spielberg should just admit it.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||04/25/2021|
If I had an acting role being part of a gay couple with Bob Hoskins, people would say we had "great chemistry" and that I "really seemed into him."
|by Anonymous||reply 130||04/25/2021|
Will there be threads that slur JR characters from each of her movies we can comment on?
|by Anonymous||reply 131||04/25/2021|
It also performed horribly at the box office r6. But like the other film "Hocus Pocus" gain a cult following mostly due to Tumblr and nostalgia.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||04/25/2021|
R118 you know what literally means, right?
|by Anonymous||reply 133||04/25/2021|
R131 Most of her movies are vanity projects centered around her being cast as the lead. Hook is one of the instances early in her career where she was hired as part of an ensemble.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||04/25/2021|
R134, you could say that about M too.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||04/25/2021|
I remember being a kid and thinking that Tinkerbell was the ugliest girl/woman I had ever seen. A lot of it has to do with her haircut but also her long horsey face. Now that I'm an adult I actually like Julia Roberts on screen. She was just so terribly terribly miscast.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||04/25/2021|
I had always heard that Kiefer got her into heroin and it was JP that got her away from it all
|by Anonymous||reply 138||04/25/2021|
Did Julia's Tinkerbell even interact with any other character? It was just reaction shots from her. At least that's how I remember it.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||04/25/2021|
r122 Did you see that new interview posted with Madonna for Evita where she basically asks her if she considered aborting Lourdes?
|by Anonymous||reply 140||04/25/2021|
So, did JR start heroin because she was hoping it would keep her thin?
|by Anonymous||reply 141||04/25/2021|
R141 Cocania accomplishes the same thing and isn’t QUITE as shady.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||04/25/2021|
Maybe "West Side Story" will be the musical Steven Spielberg always hoped "Hook" would be
|by Anonymous||reply 143||04/25/2021|
r61, People on DL just make shit up. She made a movie consistently every year in the 90s especially between Pretty Woman and My Best Friend's Wedding. Why would you just lie for no reason. People who don't know better can easily look these matters up. If she was a junkie, she was a functioning one.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||04/25/2021|
She only starred in one movie in 1992 and one movie in 1993.
Not much for having received an (undeserved) Oscar nomination for Best Actress a couple years before.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||04/25/2021|
r145, I don't know if you are r61 or not but you keep trying to double down on this lie. r61 stated she took huge gaps in between films which is just not true. She had one cool year and I think that was 1992 when appeared in The Player as herself. I'm not disputing that she was an addict, but don't make up shit to support your claims. I'm so sick of these DL posters who will outright lie to back up their claims of drug abuse, or anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||04/25/2021|
“Hook” is a mess, with Lost Boys woke before it was trendy, Robin Williams again trying to show how soulful he thinks he is, and a way too bloated scenic design.
And Julia Roberts just doesn’t belong in any of it. She looks like one of Spielberg’s child sex fantasies, inserted into an already confused attempt at “fantasy.”
Positive aspects of all this include a beautifully theatrical performance from Dustin Hoffman, as well as the basic concept of a grownup Peter returning to his origins. And there’s another marvel of a music score from the master John Williams.
But its few virtues really weren’t enough to keep me from boredom during the single time I actually paid money to see it.
Peter Pan with a very hairy chest is just weird.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||04/26/2021|
Since Julia Roberts is a complete bore, I'm going to try to divert this thread onto Jason Patric's ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||04/26/2021|
Pasty and flabby ass, how disappointing
|by Anonymous||reply 150||04/26/2021|
R151 he went from Lost Boys the movie to being Lost Man.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||04/26/2021|
Jason Patric got fired from a movie several years ago - early 2010s - and replaced by Billy Campbell. Doesn't play well with others?
|by Anonymous||reply 154||04/26/2021|
Mmm, I like that ass. The only problem is that I just jerked off half an hour ago so I could actually focus when I got to work today, and now I'm gonna have to do it again. First world problems, huh?
|by Anonymous||reply 155||04/26/2021|
"Friend of mine who knows them A-Listers once told me Julia Roberts tried & failed to put the full court press on Mark Ruffalo and his response (good guy that he is): "I'm married. And so are you!" Julia's retort: "Oh cmon. It's Hollywood."
|by Anonymous||reply 156||04/26/2021|
I remember a Robin Williams interview where he talked about making this film and struggling to lose the weight (classic Robin, he made a crack about not wanting to play Porky Pan). Not even a hint of an unkind word about her--if she really was a raging junkie at the time, he surely tried to be kind and empathetic because of his own experiences.
And sadly he's gone while raging bitch Julia will likely live to a ripe old age.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||04/26/2021|
A number of people have gone on to work with her again -- Tom Hanks, George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Richard Gere -- so she can't be that bad if they were going to work with her again. One of the actors who played one of the Lost Boys said she was very nice to him on set.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||04/26/2021|
The only people who hate Julia are envious bitchy gays who can't grasp the affect she has has on straight men. She's fkin beautiful with a great sense humor, they can put up with the bitch spouts. Most sexy, confident gay men realize thats just the way some hot women are. Hell women period. Maybe because I still enjoy puss every now and then.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||04/26/2021|
Mork from Ork had a Peter Pan sensibility
|by Anonymous||reply 160||04/26/2021|
R148 nothing about boring pretty boy Jason Patric is enough to divert my attention from real men Robin Williams and Bob Hoskins
|by Anonymous||reply 161||04/26/2021|
R158 yeah I tend to agree - same with Goop. The really awful ones (at least the women) get iced out.
When she first became famous she was pretty humorless in interviews and was always complaining about the paparazziiiii, tabloid “untruths,” etc. It was actually very popular for early 90s actors to whine like this. Then once she had her comeback, she was much lighter and fun and had a healthy sense of humor about herself. I guess she learned.
She definitely did take “time off” (for whatever reason) and the press made a thing about it. There was even a People mag cover with the headline “Whatever Happened to Julia Roberts?” The things you remember.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||04/26/2021|
Haven't seen that many of her films. Steel Magnolias, Pretty Woman, My Best Friends Wedding and August: Osage County.
Checked her imdb page.
She made a lot of turkeys.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||04/26/2021|
Just curious cos i am not a gay male.... Is Bob Hoskins considered sexy ? Is he gay? It sounds like it. I dont know anything about him.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||04/27/2021|
[quote] Is Bob Hoskins considered sexy ?
For those who are into bears and / or daddies? Very likely.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||04/27/2021|
They get iced out when they stop being box office.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||04/27/2021|
They get iced out when they stop being box office.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||04/27/2021|
I recently tried to watch Hook because I had never seen it. Got through about 20 minutes
|by Anonymous||reply 168||04/27/2021|
Hook was a surprisingly dark Peter Pan movie l, with a suicidal Hook, Workaholic/heavy drinking lawyer Peter, one of the lost boys gets killed in the end, and there’s even attempted brainwashing by Hook on Peter’s children. That’s some dark themes there, but set against a bright colorful score and set.
Julia was only sorta there for parts of the movie and her character just came in and out. Her best scene was at the end when Peter is back in London and she says tearfully that she’ll always love him in that space between sleeping and being awake.
People in here are hard on the movie and Roberts. I liked the movie as a kid.
The sad thing is, I’ve heard the Julia running off with Patric story a hundred times and this is very first time I’ve heard that Kiefer cheated on her first and her cheating was in reaction to his. Sad that women get judged more harshly for the same shit men do.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||04/27/2021|
I wish they’d make a movie out of Peter and the Starcatchers based on the Broadway show, it was lovely and sweet.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||04/27/2021|
Re Jason Patric: he seems to have a sense of humor and is able to make fun of himself. In a season of ENTOURAGE, he played himself and was portrayed as a demanding diva, even stealing lines from Vincent Chase when they were both cast in a fireman movie. He was also two-faced because he would be nice/friendly to Vince to his face but was an asshole behind his back and was determined to sabotage him. My brother now hates Jason Patric because he thinks that's how the actor really is.
BTW: I think he has a nice ass in that clip someone posted above.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||04/27/2021|
R146 I don't know if Roberts had a drug problem, but I do recall THE PELICAN BRIEF (#10 of 1993) as being her last blockbuster hit for a few years. She had several releases in '94, '95, and '96, but they were either underperformers, flops or she had a small role in them. This was also the period that saw the rise of Sandra Bullock (SPEED, WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING, THE NET, A TIME TO KILL) who many were predicting to take Roberts' title as America's Sweetheart. The other poster is right that MY BEST FRIEND'S WEDDING (#8 of 1997) was her comeback role/movie. I remember she and Rupert Everett got Oscar buzz and both were nominated for the Golden Globe.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||04/27/2021|
R172 How many of those Sandy B. movies did Julia turn down the lead in?
|by Anonymous||reply 173||04/27/2021|
R162 I've always found it interesting in the Kardashian era that back in those days celebrities HATED and LOATHED the paparrazzi and constantly bitched and moaned about it to the point where you felt like they actually hated being photographed and stalked. Then the generation after them turned out to love that shit, set sit up, puts it on the "Gram" and basically make a living off being photographed. Back in her time the stars hated being on the National Enquirer and followed everywhere. It was one of the things that cause her little meltdown during Hook. She was relentlessly pursued for many years because everyone wanted to know everything about her. Compare that to a Kim Kardashian who offers that up as a job.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||04/27/2021|
One thing I do respect about Julia - aside from the A Low Vera thing - is she doesn't push her kids into the spotlight and is very protective of them.
I remember years ago there was a video of Julia giving the icy stare to a paparazzi following her picking her son up from school. I believe Julia even confronted him and told him off. I was totally on her side. That's really crossing a line trying to get shots of a celebrity with their children at their school. I had a newfound respect for Julia when Mama Bear came out.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||04/27/2021|
Momma Bear? More like Momma Mare am I right!
|by Anonymous||reply 177||04/27/2021|
Julia Roberts and Madonna were like the last tabloid queens before the internet. One enjoyed it and the other had a very hard time with it.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||04/27/2021|
R176 One day those Kids will find out what a relentless Junkie slut Julia Was.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||04/28/2021|
Remember when Julia's sister killed herself and left a 5 page suicide note saying that Julia drove her to it?
|by Anonymous||reply 180||04/28/2021|
r176 Amy Adams took some flack on here for being a bore when, during one of those Hollywood Reporter(?) roundtables, she complained about the paparazzi following her when she was with her daughter, but I was completely on her side, she needs to take pointers from Jules if she wants to send a message, paps don't respond to niceness.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||04/28/2021|
R180 HOW DID I FORGET THAT! Holy shit Julia.
Julia is a Scorpio what do you expect. I know how DL love to boil it down to the astrology.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||04/28/2021|
I worked as a background actor on Code Black on a day when there were over two hundred others. Eric Roberts came back into the holding area and was personable and friendly, asking people general questions about themselves.
But the most surprising thing he did was walked over to the small set-up of snacks for the masses and made himself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on white bread.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||04/28/2021|
Not reading all of this, but in summation is she what ruin this movie?
|by Anonymous||reply 184||04/28/2021|
No, she's a minor distraction. The terrible script, wasted cast, insufferable, cutesy Lost Boys, a great performer who seems to be in a different film (Hoffman), snail slow pacing, disjointed, random but not in a spontaneous way, artificial but with no art, with absolutely no magic, clunky, sappy, overproduced yet not-much-to-show-for-it, and instantly forgettable, make it stillborn.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||04/28/2021|
Do Spielberg's films hold up? I watched ET during Christmas and it wasn't as good as I remember.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||04/28/2021|
Is Julia Roberts a sociopath?
Her niece seems like one.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||04/28/2021|
^Some do. Jaws, Close Encounters, Raiders of the Lost Ark. Others, not so much.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||04/28/2021|
I like Jaws, and The Sugarland Express with Goldie Hawn. But overall his films are much too sappy and sentimental for me. Big dramatic closeups and sweeping musical scores. As gorgeous as those scores are, there's too much artifice there. Most of his films tug far too aggressively at your heartstrings (in the most basic way), and in the end it usually takes me out of the film instead of working as intended. It's like he's behind the projector shouting "FEEL SOMETHING!", and in the end all those bells and whistles are a distraction from the story itself rather than an enhancement.
A filmmaker like Michael Haneke is the exact opposite. No score, no unnecessary heightening of the drama. Just pure human emotion and the facts and story laid bare. Like everything i'm sure it's a matter of taste. Mine is probably somewhere in the middle.
Oddly I do like The Terminal, where Spielberg leans heavily into those sentimental, 'magical' aspects. But I guess that film has a quirky, surrealist, novelistic quality to it that suits his filmmaking style.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||04/29/2021|
We have Coretta Scott King to thank for bringing Julia's hooker with a heart of gold, mega-watt smile into the world
|by Anonymous||reply 191||04/29/2021|
Caesar Chavez paid Brad Pitt’s preschool fees!
|by Anonymous||reply 192||04/29/2021|
Fannie Lou Hamer breastfeed AnnE Hathaway!
|by Anonymous||reply 193||04/29/2021|
Dolores Huerta was the crossing guard at Jason Bateman’s elementary school!
|by Anonymous||reply 194||04/29/2021|
Karen Silkwood was Natalie Wood’s childhood penpal!
|by Anonymous||reply 195||04/29/2021|
Tatum O'Neal blew Richard Speck
|by Anonymous||reply 196||04/29/2021|
The only thing Marilu Henner doesn't remember is to pick up the check!
|by Anonymous||reply 197||04/29/2021|
Thanks for ruining the thread, R197
|by Anonymous||reply 198||04/29/2021|
r175. The gossip magazine industry deliberately created "stars" like the Kardashians to report about them and these stars don't mind. As you pointed out, it's their bread and butter. So-called credible stars like Kate Beckinsale also call paps to get their picture taken making it look like they are still popular and in demand.
And since this is a Julia Robert thread, who can forget when Julia used magazine pictures to throw shade at her future husband's ex wife getting papped wearing a shirt saying "A Low Vera"?
A lot of stars complain about paparazzi, but they know that they are not only part of the being famous deal, but can be used to the individual celebrity's advantage to get some buzz going.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||04/29/2021|
"I told him that I knew Julia Roberts when I was twelve at summer camp" - Liz Phair "Chopsticks"
|by Anonymous||reply 200||04/29/2021|
Wow, this thread was right on time. Kiefer and Jason are friends again and even talked about the triangle.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||04/29/2021|
R201 Do they call it the Devil’s Triangle, because you know, she’s the Devil?
|by Anonymous||reply 202||04/29/2021|
It's trashy of them to talk about it. Say what you will about her. But she has never talked about what she knows. Though she has claimed to love gossiping with Tom Hanks.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||04/29/2021|
Both were mean drunks, drug addled and abusive to her but she's the devil?
|by Anonymous||reply 204||04/29/2021|
I rewatched the movie recently for the first time in ages. It has its charms, definitely (a talented cast, great music) but the beginning is so bloated. Let us show you how crappy a dad Peter Pan became (for the 10th time). I'm sure someone somewhere can take the raw footage and edit it into a better movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||04/29/2021|
Let's face it. Neither one of these guys was willing to be the boyfriend because she had become so big they were never gonna be anything but despite them both having Hollywood family. Isn't Patric the grandson of Jackie Gleeson?
|by Anonymous||reply 206||04/29/2021|
Jason Miller of Exorcist fame is Patric's father too.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||04/29/2021|
Neither Jason nor Kiefer put down Julia at all in the interview. They just said they had both put the incident behind them.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||04/29/2021|
How do we know that Julia was a heroin addict? I was a kid when her movies were big so I missed this gossip. I'm surprised and I want to know more.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||04/29/2021|
Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts are the last studio stars. There won't be others. Stars just don't sell tickets anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||04/29/2021|
R209 We don't "know" it, but it's been rumored for thirty years.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||04/29/2021|
R2 I always enjoy a documentary or analysis, but that was hard to get through, because the narrator's vocal cadence and inflection (particularly at the ends of phrases and sentences) were so incredibly annoying.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||04/30/2021|
[quote] Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts are the last studio stars. Stars just don't sell tickets anymore.
I think Jennifer Lawrence was the very last one. But she hit a wall and her affiliation with Weinstein ruined her career.
Even American Sweetheart Reese Witherspoon does Frau TV which you can normally find on Lifetime and Hallmark, but because it's Reese Fucking Witherspoon you have to get it on HBO or HULU. And it's award-winning.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||04/30/2021|
[quote]Julia Roberts was engaged to Kiefer Sutherland during filming. He cheated on her with a stripper. She cheated on him with his best friend, Jason Patric. Julia and Kiefer called off their wedding. Julia and Jason flew to Ireland in the middle of shooting the movie, throwing the entire production off schedule. Spielberg threatened to replace her with Meg Ryan or Michelle Pfeiffer.
I reckon this is all made-up PR bullshit to sell the film and carefully crafted and supported by everyone who worked on the film. Same as was done for the Twilight films.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||04/30/2021|
Jennifer Lawrence was not a movie star in the way Julia Roberts and Tom Cruise were/are. Her films cannot be categorized as hits because people went to see her. Yes, she's had many hits, but it's because of the IP of the film or something that caught the public's attention where she happened to be in the cast. If you look at the non-franchise films where Jennifer Lawrence was the main selling point, she's really never had a hit.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||04/30/2021|
r213 Big Little Lies was far and above some bullshit Hallmark movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||04/30/2021|
r216 It was from David E. Kelley, so not really.
|by Anonymous||reply 217||04/30/2021|
R214 This is common knowledge from various articles and entertainment news shows.
Steven Spielberg wouldn't mess up his schedule, and that of many other successful members of the cast, to risk his reputation for PR spin scandalizing an actress he has openly said he didn't enjoy working with and wouldn't cast again in any of his movies.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||04/30/2021|
Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts have zero of the charisma and charm that elevated them to where they are today
|by Anonymous||reply 219||04/30/2021|
r219, that is the magical power of Hollywood and its PR machinery. They convince us of something that isn't there.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||04/30/2021|
Julia Roberts was a powerhouse, don't pretend it was all PR.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||04/30/2021|
r221, what has
[quote] Tom Cruise and Julia Roberts have zero of the charisma and charm
to do with being a powerhouse?
|by Anonymous||reply 222||04/30/2021|
sorry, I didn't read your posts carefully enough - I should have said, more than anything, I think a certain drive and toughness is part of what elevated Cruise and Roberts to where they are today, you could count those qualities as a kind of charisma.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||04/30/2021|
r223, ambition, aka what drives people to do certain things, and charisma are two different things. Confidence on the other hand can be perceived as charming.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||04/30/2021|
Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts are charismatic though. Posters just don't like their work or personalities so they pretend they aren't. Thing is, plenty of people have charisma, looks, charm, etc. They don't have the drive or cleverness to get the right people to back them up though. That's the difference between those people and the Julia's of the world.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||04/30/2021|
Julia Roberts is still magnetic, I find this scene so cathartic
|by Anonymous||reply 226||04/30/2021|
I think in their early years, Cruise and Roberts definitely had charisma. Roberts, in particular from Mystic Pizza to Sleeping with the Enemy was radiant on screen. I think her initial brush with fame got too much for her and then she developed too much of an ego so there was a sense of smugness in some of her later performances. But from '88 to '91 she was lovely to watch on screen. There is a reason she became a big star.
Same with Cruise - Risky Business, Top Gun, even Cocktail, he had lots of charisma. But, also back then, he had good handlers who were able to contain the crazy. When he let them go, it went to hell and many of us can't see him with that charismatic light anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||04/30/2021|
Did you watch it r217? That's a ridiculous statement.
|by Anonymous||reply 228||04/30/2021|
r228 Yes, I watched it. It was glorified Lifetime frau crap. Hence why the Karens loved it.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||04/30/2021|
It was great r229 far removed from the Christmas Lifetime shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||04/30/2021|
The trash press was way different then than they are now. They put stupid reality stars on vacation on the covers of rags now. But they were brutal with Julia Roberts back then. It's not any wonder she had a complete meltdown.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||04/30/2021|
Spielberg was an idiot for casting her. I guess it seemed like a good idea at the time. She was the hottest young actress back then. But she was so totally WRONG to play a character like Tinker Bell. Gangly, horsey, huge mouthed Julia Roberts as a fairy? It just didn't work. You know who would have been perfect? Drew Barrymore. But she and Spielberg were on the outs (he didn't like her slutty, dissolute lifestyle) so he cast Roberts. He really should have known better. But I don't think Michelle Pheiffer would have been much better; she was too sexy. And Meg Ryan would have awful. She would have played up her cutely schtick and it would been nauseating.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||04/30/2021|
Winona Ryder was another who had a breakdown around the same time. I remember she had to drop out of THE GODFATHER III due to 'exhaustion.' She was being overworked and her engagement to Johnny Depp was tabloid fodder, especially since she was 18 and he 26 when they began dating.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||04/30/2021|
I agree with a poster up thread. The movie is not good, I did enjoy Hoffman and don't like the Roberts performance but do think she was lovely in the sequence with the big blue dress taliking to Peter. It's well delivered aside from the strung out, coked out look of the eyes.
|by Anonymous||reply 235||04/30/2021|
She really started to overdo the insufferable toothy grinning after Pretty Woman
|by Anonymous||reply 236||04/30/2021|
How exactly is Tinkerbell described in the script, what is supposed to have been her life journey at this point? Who is she, who was she who does she hope to be?
|by Anonymous||reply 237||04/30/2021|
The shot of her fucked up walking out of a club with Ethan Hawke was when that shit looked at it's worse. She was about to come apart. She looked completely miserable and sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||04/30/2021|
Wasn't Herbert Ross very abusive to her filming Steel Magnolias?
|by Anonymous||reply 239||04/30/2021|
I’ve never heard Dear Jessie before. Sounds like McCartney had a hand in writing the song.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||05/01/2021|
R240, I believe he/The Beatles were the inspiration behind the song musically. Lyrically it's about Patrick Leonard's daughter.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||05/01/2021|
Julia's bad pixie cut ruined it alone
|by Anonymous||reply 243||05/01/2021|
I can't believe Spielberg can't let it go. If he cast her in a movie it would make huge headlines
|by Anonymous||reply 244||05/02/2021|
This just made me throw up in my mouth a little - ok, not a little, a lot, like full on barfing.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||05/02/2021|
Rebecca de Mornay apparently lost the role of Tinkerbell. I wonder how she would have done. At the dawn of the '90s, she would have maybe been about C-list. Remember, Hook came out between Backdraft and The Hand That Rocks the Cradle, her comeback movies.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||05/02/2021|
Markle has an enormous Julia Roberts grin also. She looks like a crocodile when she grins.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||05/02/2021|
Backdraft was a comeback movie for De Mornay? Who even remembers she was in it?
|by Anonymous||reply 249||05/02/2021|
The Hand that Rocks the Cradle was a huge hit! It was #1 at the box office for like a month.
|by Anonymous||reply 250||05/02/2021|
Rebecca should have had a bigger career after Cradle. She's a solid actress.
But she picked trashy projects again that couldn't put her in the A-List.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||05/02/2021|
[quote] The Hand that Rocks the Cradle was a huge hit! It was #1 at the box office for like a month.
That's delightful, dear. But I said Backdraft.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||05/02/2021|
The Hand That Rocks the Cradle was the first time I saw Julianne Moore and I knew she was going to be a star.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||05/02/2021|
Rebecca De Mornay would have been a good choice for Tinker Bell. She's talented and has a pretty, ethereal look that would have served the part well.
Some trivia: Rebecca De Mornay was considered for the part of the dream girl Jill in the movie "Brazil." The director Terry Gilliam considered a lot of actresses for the role, most of which seem kind of ludicrous considering what type of role it was; the character in real life was a butch looking truck driver, as the dream girl she was floating around in a diaphanous white gown and had long, flowing hair. Among those actresses he considered were Jamie Lee Curtis, Ellen Barkin, Dawn Chong, Joanna Pakula, Rosanna Arquette, Kelly McGillis and even Madonna. He settled on an unknown actress named Kim Griest, who turned out to be such a pain in the ass that Gilliam kept cutting the role back so it turned out to be much less prominent that it orginally was. Too bad he didn't cast. De Mornay. I think she would have been perfect; she could have pulled off the butch truck driver Jill and would have made a lovely dream girl.
|by Anonymous||reply 254||05/02/2021|
Was Kiefer getting any dick in those days?
|by Anonymous||reply 256||05/02/2021|
R253 thank God it wasn't Body Of Evidence.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||05/02/2021|
"She's the one person almost as famous as me."
|by Anonymous||reply 258||05/08/2021|
Didn't Rupert Everett fall out of favor with both Julia and Madonna for his gossiping?
|by Anonymous||reply 260||05/08/2021|
When did Julia say "I love my life!" Is that a joke? A movie line? I don't get it.
|by Anonymous||reply 261||05/10/2021|
R261 when she presented the Best Actor Oscar to Denzel Washington in 2002. Throughout the entire awards season, she was Denzel's biggest cheerleader/supporter and even stated that she did not want to live in a world where she had an Oscar for Best Actress and Denzel didn't have one for Best Actor (though he had already won Best Supporting Actor). Anyway, when she opened the envelope, the first thing out of her mouth was "I love my life!" Thus, making the moment about her.
|by Anonymous||reply 262||05/10/2021|
R219 that's ridiculous. They may be annoying as fuck now but to say they never had charisma is absurd. They had HUGE charisma for a window of time. They're the last stars I can think of that people would say they were going to a Tom Cruise/Julia Roberts movie without even mentioning the title of of the movie. They were going to see a movie star. That will never happen again.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||05/14/2021|
"Hook" is one of the worst big budget Hollywood movies I've ever seen.
It was painful to watch.
|by Anonymous||reply 264||05/14/2021|
[quote] How young was she? She’s not a teenager. This was only 6 years before My Best Friend’s Wedding so she couldn’t have been that young.
SHE WAS A FUCKING ZYGOTE OK?
|by Anonymous||reply 265||05/14/2021|
Is she still America"s favorite actress? I remember she won like 10 People's Choice Awards in row or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||05/14/2021|
[quote]Robin Williams should've been casted as Hook...
|by Anonymous||reply 267||05/14/2021|
Her buddy Brad Pitt says she belongs between the two Hepburns but I think she's like top 6. The Hepburns and Monroe are bigger than her. Davis and Taylor too. I give her a 6
|by Anonymous||reply 268||05/14/2021|
"Casted" is a DL meme r267
|by Anonymous||reply 269||05/14/2021|
If we are talking dollars none of those actresses ever made as much money as Julia or had a bigger box office career. Julia Roberts is the only modern female star that her name above the title or before her male costars. She was actually bigger than all of them for a short period.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||05/14/2021|
R95 What does it feel like to grin like that? Is that her natural grin or does she affect going EEEEEEEEEEE, baring all her teeth and gums?
|by Anonymous||reply 271||05/14/2021|
Julia is not bigger than the Hepburns or Monroe but she does have a better career than Bette Davis. Liz has better movies but not the box office.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||05/15/2021|
Some people just have grins like that, I immediately thought of Rebecca Romijn and then I realised John Stamos does as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||05/15/2021|
Julia needs a second Oscar to be a grande dame
|by Anonymous||reply 274||05/15/2021|
Julia needs a second Oscar because her thirst for fame and adoration is unquenchable.
|by Anonymous||reply 275||05/15/2021|
Only from the few clips I've seen, I thought she was showcased so well in "August: Osage County" - a true Stah! - She needs to hire whoever convinced her to do that picture.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||05/15/2021|
All the big stars get two Oscars
|by Anonymous||reply 277||05/15/2021|
Lupita stole her second Oscar
|by Anonymous||reply 278||05/15/2021|
Julia will get a second Oscar. All the big ones do. Sooner or later.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||05/15/2021|
R273 I agree for some it's natural, but I also think a lot of Hollywood types affect that bared-teeth grin. It's odd, like the way kids self-consciously smile for photos: say CHEEESE. The other thing they do is the open-mouthed "oh HAHAHA I'm having the BEST time" expression, like they've just heard the most outrageous joke. I assume it's all practiced.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||05/15/2021|
Similar to the "woman laughing at salad" pose that is done so often. No one loves salad that much.
|by Anonymous||reply 281||05/15/2021|
I once worked with a famous photographer, and when he himself posed for a photo, he'd just open his mouth in the salad-laugh expression. Supposed to look happening and glamorous, I guess?
|by Anonymous||reply 282||05/15/2021|
[quote]"Casted" is a DL meme [R267]
Barely, I've been here since '99, and one can tell when it's in on the joke, or simply....casted!
|by Anonymous||reply 283||05/15/2021|
Don't lose sleep over it hon r283
|by Anonymous||reply 284||05/15/2021|
Christy Turlington has mentioned the "time of your life" smile that she and other models used a lot in the 90s
|by Anonymous||reply 285||05/15/2021|
[quote]Didn't Rupert Everett fall out of favor with both Julia and Madonna for his gossiping?
I think what did his friendship in with Julia was The Next Best Thing premiere. She was dating Benjamin Bratt at the time, and showed up to support both Bratt and Rupert. Madonna was reportedly pissed that Julia was getting as much, if not more media attention than she was when she arrived with Guy and Rupert. Julia went up to Rupert and congratulated him and formally introduced herself to Madonna. Madonna snapped "I know you who are" and walked away. Rupert tried to make some excuse to Julia about Madonna' being nervous over the movie being a hit, but Julia was not happy that Rupert didn't say something to Madge.
I think the Madonna friendship just ran out of steam.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||05/15/2021|
R285 I tend to think Marilyn Monroe was the one who really got it going.
At least it’s better than the Keira Knightley mouth half open thing. Or the Zellweger pursed-lip smile.
|by Anonymous||reply 287||05/15/2021|
R287 or the Goldie Hawn top AND bottom teeth trying to make her jaw look wider smile.
|by Anonymous||reply 288||05/15/2021|
R288 Yes, I touched on that one in my post at R280. That seems to be a thing now. You’re right, Goldie was a pioneer.
Here’s Brian Stelter doing it, though of course not as hard as Goldie and Julia.
|by Anonymous||reply 289||05/15/2021|
Even if he didn't want to go with Drew, he could have went with any of the following:
Beverly D Angelo
|by Anonymous||reply 290||05/15/2021|
I like the idea of Meg Ryan as Tinker Bell. She always seemed like a sprite to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 291||05/15/2021|
r290 From Martha Plimton to Cybill Shepherd? So, literally anyone.
|by Anonymous||reply 292||05/15/2021|
Attractive, busty blondes. R292
|by Anonymous||reply 293||05/15/2021|
[quote]Don't lose sleep over it hon [R283]
Well, at least now you've learned that the past participle of cast is "cast"
|by Anonymous||reply 294||05/15/2021|
Madonna always seemed to find it hard to believe she was never going to be a movie star.
|by Anonymous||reply 295||05/17/2021|
I know, R295. It's sad, really.
|by Anonymous||reply 296||05/17/2021|
[quote]he could have went with any of the following
I think you mean "he could OF went."
|by Anonymous||reply 297||05/18/2021|
R7 you failed to mention a wedding that 20th Century Fox was flipping the bill for and was to take place on the Fox lot if I remember correctly. Miss Thing just swatted that away.
|by Anonymous||reply 298||05/20/2021|
R286 the press was at a movie premiere of course they flocked to the actual movie star even if she wasn't even in the movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 299||05/21/2021|
Since every thread comes back to Madonna, the epic and legendary "I'm Breathless" was released thirty-one years ago today on May 22, 1990
|by Anonymous||reply 300||05/22/2021|
Kiefer and Jason should have just hooked up and told her to get lost. There was way more chemistry between them than either man with her. The relationship between their characters in Lost Boys was so homoerotic. The whole movie is one pretty gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 301||05/22/2021|
Well Joel Schumacher was the director R301
|by Anonymous||reply 302||05/22/2021|
Who wins a bitch off between Miss Julia and Madonna?
|by Anonymous||reply 303||05/22/2021|
Two nasty spoiled mean drunks abusing an ingenue and the DL sides with them. Really?
|by Anonymous||reply 304||05/22/2021|
Well who you going pick instead The Coreys?
|by Anonymous||reply 305||05/22/2021|
R304 Literally no one has made an accusation of abuse against anyone. Stop spreading lies.
|by Anonymous||reply 306||05/22/2021|
R 306 you're right. Everyone knows Julia is no shrinking violet. A cuntess de jour is nobody's victim.
|by Anonymous||reply 307||05/22/2021|
Julia's Ingenue SELL-BY date had passed and spoiled by her asshole behavior during "Hook"
|by Anonymous||reply 308||05/22/2021|
She was still hugely successful after that incident. She got a second chance and didn't misstep after making her the America"s Sweetheart most people remember now.
|by Anonymous||reply 309||05/22/2021|
Seriously though. This scene had so many gay undertones. Especially when he sucks on the bottle the second time. Joel knew what he was doing.
|by Anonymous||reply 310||05/22/2021|
I think The Lost Boys and Flatliners were both very entertaining. Flatlinesr made money because it came on the heals of Pretty Woman but all the young actors are wonderful in it and it was entertaining for what it was. An idea movie. What if we all die for a little while and then... It was very movie genre but it was entertaining as a horror/thriller movie. It had vaery gothic look and style and wonderful sound. Good brat packer2.0 thriller. The next generation who would actually have careers. Julia Roberts, Kiefer Sutherland, Kevin Bacon, William Baldwin, Oliver Platt. All went to great to decent careers.
|by Anonymous||reply 311||05/22/2021|
R311 Robert Sean Leonard turned down a part in that (along with a lot of other commercial movies on the heels of Dead Poets). Actors say it a lot as bullshit of their careers don’t go well but he really is an actor who “could have been” a biggest star if he had made the choices his agents wanted him to make.
Sorry that’s a little off subj.
|by Anonymous||reply 312||05/22/2021|
Didn’t Flatliners get a big push being Natalie Wood’s last movie?
|by Anonymous||reply 313||05/22/2021|
Jason Patric was so fucking pretty in Los Boys I bet Joel was just looking for a place to show his ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 314||05/22/2021|
Guarantee Spielberg would work with her again today. They've had the same agency for 30 years. They have probably spent more than 1,000 hours socializing together at this point.
She was a 22 yr old drug addict at the time. In what was a very short period of inability to perform on the job. No idea if she totally left drugs behind or became a more functional addict. But studios werent worried about her falling off the wagon nor did she (while working at least) in the 30 years since Hook
|by Anonymous||reply 316||05/22/2021|
Robert Sean Leonard was a series regular on House, which ran for almost 10 years, so he did okay.
|by Anonymous||reply 317||05/22/2021|
I still think the RSL character in Dead Poets Society was meant to be down low gay and they were cowards which annoys me that the screenwriter won an Oscar. If the movie was made today that character would've been gay and no one would've even thought a thing about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 318||05/22/2021|
R317 definitely, but not a star. And he’s probably totally fine with that.
|by Anonymous||reply 319||05/22/2021|
When this thread is filled, will the next one mocking a different Julia movie?
|by Anonymous||reply 320||05/22/2021|
I found this a fun gossipy thread. I myself learned some fun bit of gossip. I mean I know our Julia. But she really has always been all drama. All those kind always are.
|by Anonymous||reply 321||05/22/2021|
Her best drama was that Harriet Tubman movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 322||05/22/2021|
Julia can play Michelle Obama and Kamala Harris if needed.
|by Anonymous||reply 323||05/22/2021|
Isn't Queen Julia still ountess supreme. Her Q rating abroad is still above most actresses. And the fraus still adore her. You can't convince one she is mean slut
|by Anonymous||reply 324||05/28/2021|
[quote]I still think the RSL character in Dead Poets Society was meant to be down low gay and they were cowards which annoys me that the screenwriter won an Oscar. If the movie was made today that character would've been gay and no one would've even thought a thing about it.
Within the movie they would have cared, since the story takes place in 1959. Thus, having them be out and proud and everyone be cool with it would have rung false.
|by Anonymous||reply 325||05/28/2021|
I still can’t believe she was on junk. That’s kind of gritty for a chick like her. Everything about her screams cocaine.
|by Anonymous||reply 326||05/28/2021|
Did she and Whitney Houston ever compare stories?
|by Anonymous||reply 327||05/28/2021|
R326 And earlier posters.....where did this "Julia was on heroin" gossip come from?
|by Anonymous||reply 328||05/29/2021|
R328, 25 years later it is not easy to figure out where the Julia on heroin gossip came from. But it was very widely disseminated and believed within the entertainment industry.
|by Anonymous||reply 329||05/30/2021|
I know this thread is about Julia, but does anyone have any inside dirt on Kiefer or Jason?
|by Anonymous||reply 330||05/30/2021|
R330 sometime last year it was revealed that Jason Patric was actually a cardboard cut-out
|by Anonymous||reply 331||05/30/2021|
R326 I totally agree - I totally can buy she was hooked on drugs, but it’s hard for me to swallow that Heelon was her drug of choice. But who knows. I was I think 13 and just reading the same US weeklies and Star Magazines as everyone else.
|by Anonymous||reply 332||05/30/2021|
R332 Way off topic, but US (bi-weekly at that time) and Star Magazine in the 80s were the two best gossip magazines ever and nothing like they became post-2000 when Bonnie Fuller turned both of them into cosmetic and beauty-focused nothingness
|by Anonymous||reply 333||05/30/2021|
What the fuck is Heelon, is that the Rodeo Drive version of heroin that you buy in the alley behind Van Cleef & Arpels?
|by Anonymous||reply 334||05/30/2021|
I wish W&W still existed for posts like R334.
|by Anonymous||reply 335||05/30/2021|
R334 wtf i have no clue how autocorrect changed it from heroin to, um, THAT...maybe it will be the name of a prescription drug one day. Whoops.
|by Anonymous||reply 336||05/30/2021|
If Julia wasn’t on the designer drug Heelon during the ‘80s, she’ll surly be taking it in her ‘80s to manage the fibromyalgia and rheumatoid arthritis.
|by Anonymous||reply 337||05/30/2021|
R334, you stupid bitch.
There was no Van Cleef and Arpels in the valley!
|by Anonymous||reply 338||05/30/2021|
I would pay good money to see them show off a box of jewels and snap it shut when Julia reaches for it. Bitch wouldn’t laugh at that, that’s for sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 339||05/30/2021|
Gary practically says she was “nodding off” from all the partying and he had Richard do that to snap her out of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 340||05/30/2021|
This thread went from being about “Hook,” to being about Julia who was hooked.
|by Anonymous||reply 341||05/30/2021|
Julia passive aggressively showing her inner controlling bitch to Patricia Arquette interviewing her at 8:12
"You have your paper. I have to say something about people with paper...."
|by Anonymous||reply 342||Last Wednesday at 11:42 AM|
Ryan Murphy's next miniseries should be the "A Low Vera" saga with Sarah Paulson as Julia
|by Anonymous||reply 343||Last Wednesday at 12:02 PM|
I ran into her at a local agricultural fair in CT in ~2006-2007. She was with her incredibly fug twins and was loudly berating that dime a dozen husband she bought herself. He pushed the stroller & cowered slightly. There was no mistaking it was her from the size of her mouth, even with her hair under a big hat and sunglasses on. Hope he got paid well sticking around with that shrew.
|by Anonymous||reply 344||Last Wednesday at 12:09 PM|
JR would've been pregnant at the time, you judgemental shrew.
|by Anonymous||reply 345||Last Wednesday at 12:20 PM|
Has anyone seen Peaky Blinders?
|by Anonymous||reply 346||Last Wednesday at 12:28 PM|
Oh god, they’re not going to ask her to pull out her stinky old cockney accent again are they?
|by Anonymous||reply 347||Last Wednesday at 12:29 PM|
I didn't know she had one! If Jules goes full Dick Van Dyke, I will watch.
|by Anonymous||reply 348||Last Wednesday at 12:32 PM|
r345 Phinnaeus and Hazel Moder were born in November 2004. The twins are Julia's oldest children with Danny.
|by Anonymous||reply 349||Last Wednesday at 12:34 PM|
Eric Roberts gives some insight what it was like growing up with his tough absent father and distant submissive mother
|by Anonymous||reply 350||Last Wednesday at 12:37 PM|
R348 Maybe it was Irish, I don’t know what the hell she was trying to pull off here, only that it was atrocious.
|by Anonymous||reply 351||Last Wednesday at 12:50 PM|
Bob Hoskins and Helen Mirren
|by Anonymous||reply 352||Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM|
R346 Miss Roberts does not do television but we appreciate the offer. Need any DPs?
|by Anonymous||reply 353||Last Friday at 10:53 AM|
r353 Oh honey, she's about to do a show for Starz. It's okay, we know you have little to no interest in your wife.
|by Anonymous||reply 355||Last Friday at 11:05 AM|
Isn't La Roberts above it all. Especially TV.
|by Anonymous||reply 356||Last Friday at 7:15 PM|
Julia did a series on Amazon already.
|by Anonymous||reply 357||Last Friday at 7:39 PM|
America's movie queen doing television, I don't see it.
|by Anonymous||reply 358||Last Friday at 8:04 PM|
Julia did an Amazon series called Homecoming. It was ok.
|by Anonymous||reply 359||Last Friday at 8:23 PM|
She was actually quite good in Homecoming. And deglamorized.
|by Anonymous||reply 360||Last Friday at 8:36 PM|
I once had a dream where Sandy Dennis was Tinker Bell in Spielberg's Hook.
It was the funniest dream I've ever had. like a fantastic comedy sketch.
I wish you could record dreams.
|by Anonymous||reply 361||Last Friday at 8:58 PM|
Will there ever be another America's Sweetheart or did that title die?
|by Anonymous||reply 362||Last Friday at 9:08 PM|