How Would Joan Rivers Be Faring Today?

Joan Rivers was a personal friend of Charles and Camilla she would have ripped Meghan to shreds. That being said, I honestly believe Joan Rivers would have been "cancelled" during the Trump era because I suspect she would have (at least initially) supported him.

How Would Joan Rivers Be Farting Today?

[quote]no one can say anything offensive AT ALL

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See the clip----"I ADORE Donald Trump"........Joan would have gone all TRUMP---she loved him.........That would not have been good for her career....Her TV show with Melissa would have been cancelled...Her Fashion Police show would have been cancelled. No doubt.

"Bill Maher quipped the other night that Prince Harry was sixth in line to a job that has no pressure. That's something that Joan might have said."

Correct, because it wasn't funny.

I actually think, besides any Trump love, her being non PC would give her a surprising audience. A lot of us are sick of this woke shit! We need a champion who can call it out for what it is and provide comic relief while doing it.

Of course they asked what color the baby would be. Everyone knows orange and black don't go together unless it is for Halloween or some damn outfit Lara Flynn Boyle wore to the Globes.

Joan was smart, when she could see the writing on the wall with Trump she would have just said nothing either way, she'd just talk about other things but Trump. She'd still have an audience because people are sick of PC woke and she was loaded, she didn't have to work, she could say what she wanted. She'd have taken the piss out of Greta Thurnburg and Markle, she'd still be having plastic surgery and still be giving no fucls.

“Disgraced comedienne Joan Rivers refuses to walk back her comments about mass shootings. Says Americans deserve what they get.”

Joan felt she owed Trump as a result of her win on Celebrity Apprentice. In her documentary, Joan credits Trump/The Apprentice for giving her relevance again. That being said, she would have totally made fun of Trump even Melissa has said Joan wasn't personally fond of him but felt she owed him something.

R6 Joan was always an anti-PC spokesperson. Woke culture is the opposite side of white supremacy: they are both a form a fascism.

[quote] How Would Joan Rivers Be Faring Today?

She would be clawing away frantically at the underside of her coffin lid until she ran out of air.

Imagine her joking about Hunter Biden! lol

People say offensive things all the time, OP. They just get criticized for them. Freedom of speech doesn't mean Freedom From Criticism

BTW, she was a Republican and probably would have looked down on you

Only a true moron like r10 would think being "woke" is the same thing as Fascism. Holding people accountable for their actions is not Fascism, you Tucker Carlson wannabe

If Joan were alive today, she would be nearly 88.

[quote] Joan was smart, when she could see the writing on the wall with Trump she would have just said nothing either way, she'd just talk about other things but Trump.

You're wrong. Trashy, rich New Yorkers stick together. Joan would have loved him being president. Most very wealthy NYers didn't support trump but they also didn't say anything about him. That's rich NY trash, for you. You see how they all still loved epstein, even after his arrest and jail time

Joan used to tell boring, lame, tired old jokes about people who were popular in the 1970s / 80s

You morons sound like Josh Hawley. Claiming you're being silenced but not being even remotely silent about how you're such a victim

Joan was smart, when she could see the writing on the wall with Trump she would have just said nothing either way, she'd just talk about other things but Trump.

You're wrong. Trashy, rich New Yorkers stick together. Joan would have loved him being president. Most very wealthy NYers didn't support trump but they also didn't say anything about him. That's rich NY trash, for you. You see how they all still loved epstein, even after his arrest and jail time

you just contradicted yourself

Republicans aren't funny. Hardly any really funny people are Trumpsters. Most comedians are pretty damn liberal.

The truth hurts

"A lot of us are sick of this woke shit! We need a champion who can call it out for what it is and provide comic relief while doing it."

What are you talking about? You elected a person like this as president.

Joan's last public statement was a doozie. 2 weeks later she was dead.

Her and Candace Owens doing a cross country tour is all I see now LOL

R21 Is wrong that I laughed out loud at this video hahahaha.

people change allegiances all the time so who knows

R13, are you kidding?

People actually can't say anything more without being canceled.

I met Joan a few times, briefly, professionally. Class act. Loved her.

I think she would have survived this. The woman made Princess Diana jokes.

Joan died when Carson fired her.

R26, you're funny...not really though.

Joan's daytime talk show after Edgar died put her on the comeback. She won a Daytime Emmy for it and was on her way back.

She worked a lot throughout her life, especially at the end.

I think she would have found a way to make fun of Trump but in a way in which he would have laughed.

Joan got over Edgar's death a lot quicker than she got over Carson's firing, which she never got over. His ultimate revenge was that her humor turned so cruel, bitter and sadistic, very much indicative of her own personality. People so quickly forget what a joke she was when she hosted the Red Carpet for E! and couldn't even remember famous celeb's names. She herself was so inept that she couldn't even do the Fashion Updates without writers. She herself was pretty grotesque, physically and professionally, when she died.

I'll give her credit. Her forays into various mediums have resulted in projects that are among the worst of all time: Rabbit Test, Fun City and The Joan and Melissa Rivers Story.

Oh, and you gave yourself away but suggesting Trump would have laughed at anyone who made fun of him.

In her documentary "A Piece of Work" she made a lot of money performing at conservative senior organizations and selling her jewelry on QVC, so she probably wouldn't have either side too upset with her

r11 please, she would have clawed her way out to make it a movie of the week written, directed, produced and starring melissa... she'd also be having a lesbian relationship with dame shirley bassey to bypass the trump fiasco and for shirley to slip her some sloppy tongue every time biden speaks like a dottering senile ol fool or sniffs another uncomfortable woman. hard to say how she'd react to sharon osbourne. she'd probably take over the talk

She was pretty savvy and would probably know better than to say anything supportive of Trump publicly

her humor only got really nasty after Edgar's suicide. She was depressed, bitter, angry and depressed. Very sad really.

Like all bullies, Joan could dish it out but couldn't take it.

Was it really a suicide? Has that been totally proven? Because, I've got to say I've had some doubts.

Joan was a hypocritical piece of shit. She used the excuse of being a comedian to say vile, racist crap about people and even made below the belt personal attacks. Yet this cunt would be furious if anyone said anything about her fugly daughter or about Israel.

She started going all racist against Asian women because she said they're stealing all the Jewish men. She even pulled her eyes back, which is ironic since all the plastic surgery she got already made her eyes Asiatic.

If Joan’s material still worked, Melissa would have stolen it. What does she do now? A podcast?

She was funny before her husband killed himself and life made her bitter. In her final twenty years or so, she was an old salty Republicunt. I honestly could not stand her towards the end.

[quote]when she could see the writing on the wall with Trump she would have just said nothing either way, she'd just talk about other things but Trump

She wasn't able to control herself when it came to the Obamas and her claims Barack was secretly gay and Michelle was a secret tranny. She wasn't able to control herself when it came to Palestinians and she said she thought all of them, especially the kids, should be exterminated.

There's no way she would have kept her yap shut about Trump. She would have said something offensive and flamed out like Roseanne.

She would have also defended Louis CK and trashed the ladies who got stuck in his room watching him jerk off, and other things along those lines.

I mean, come on, the freakshow piece of shit even sounded exactly like Trump.

[quote]"When you declare war, you declare war. They started it. We now don't count who's dead. You're dead, you deserve to be dead," she yelled, offering no sympathy for the civilians who have died in Gaza, including children. "At least the ones who were killed, were the ones with very low IQs," she said.

r39 yeah, but she was a comedian, she wasn't running the country

[quote]her humor only got really nasty after Edgar's suicide

She must have been nasty before Edgar's suicide, because it's been obvious since it happened that he killed himself in part because she blamed him for much of what happened. Melissa didn't make that up out of thin air, she knew her mom had been berating Edgar for their failures.

A dementia riddled Joan could have been a hoot.

Suck it up, R40, your freak-faced heroine Joan Rivers was a piece of shit. "Well, she wasn't president" isn't an excuse for the crazy anti-liberal, anti-Democratic, hateful shit she said day in and day out for years.

She campaigned for Republicans and appeared at conventions, like the one for Reagan in 1984, long before Edgar died and she crashed and burned with the talk show. She didn't become a hateful Republican because of a hard life, she was ALWAYS a hateful Republican.

Here's another doozy of a quote from her:

[quote]Interviewer: One of the most surprising things to me is that you’re a Republican…

[quote]Joan Rivers: How can you not be? How can anyone not be? How can you live in a country when you can not say the Pledge of Allegiance anymore?

Anyone who thinks Joan would have been just fine in recent years is deluding themselves. Actually, anyone who thinks Joan was ever on our side is deluding themselves.

She'd have been co-anchor on "Fox and Friends".

I wish they'd release all the Fashion Police episodes and her E! red carpet specials on DVD. Or are they available on some streaming service?

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I mean.....

Just yell outside! "Queenie! Duke! Prince!" See what shows up!

[quote] you just contradicted yourself

No I didn't. Most rich NYers hate trump. But most of them didn't call him out. And if he moved back to NY, and they saw him at parties/events, they would act like he didn't do anything wrong. Wealthy, NY trash, sticks together

And the people who were friends/associated with Jeffrey epstein, continued to associate with him after he went to jail, and go to dinners at his house. That's just how rich, NY trash is

There's something wrong with you to think is contradictory. These are absolute FACTS

Fellow ultra conservative Ben Stein did a hit piece on her in GQ and she gave a blubbering press conference announcing she was hitting him with a 50 million dollar libel lawsuit. Her stupid press conference also had Melissa onstage and she pulled her up and said how terrible it was to subject someone so young and innocent to such hate. It really made you wonder who this woman was.

Very interesting DL thread on the lawsuit

Joan, like most people. was full of contradictions, although probably moreso than most She was a deeply insecure person, most notably concerning her appearance- obviously- but also money and status. Not unlike the Bouvier sisters, Joan was bought up in a semi privileged home by a mother who was obsessed by appearances and social status, these things were bred into her. and never left her. One had to be beautiful, educated, successful, well-dressed and marry well. She also seemed to believe she had never been loved and that that was a direct consequence of her assumed unattractiveness. From all accounts Joan was a good person in private with family, friends and fans, but a happy person doesn't generate the nastiness that came from her mouth.

Joan would have been canceled like Sharon Osbourne but without the big payout

I know her only from Fashion Police but I thought she was hilarious on it. I know pretty much all of her jokes were written for her by others but she had great timing and deadpan style of delivering them. My favorite joke was when she commented on some low-cut dress: "That dress is like the Anne Frank house - all the party's happening upstairs".

"I think she would have found a way to make fun of Trump but in a way in which he would have laughed."

I don't think you've been paying attention. Trump NEVER laughs at himself. He can't laugh at himself. He never has been able to take a joke at his expense. If made to, he gets a very tight, wide psychotic grin on his face and you can see he's in pain from having to behave. Joan, as smart as she could be, would not be able to change that psychotic personality flaw of his.

Joan once also said that you never, ever get on the wrong side of Trump, that he had ways and means of getting back at you.

I think she would have been one of the few to defend Kathy Griffin after the ketchup-on-mask photo and, like Griffin, would be made to pay bitterly for it.

Joan was great. The documentary on her was great.

No comedian is sane or calm, anyway. You have to have some issues to get out there and lay out your soul like that.

I think she would have redeemed the world!

Joan would've lost her career, because the audience would've finally realized: Man, she really IS a cunt.

She dumped her own writers during the writer's strike. She drove her own husband to suicide.

The issue with social media is that it does draw you closer to your idol of choice. Look how many celebs are being undone by managing their own social media presence. And she would've shared the same fate as Roseanne, no doubt.

And those incels whining about "woke" cancel culture are just pissed that actions now do have consequences even for them and their douchebag heroes who believe that their self-declared privilege shields them from any consequence of their actions.

It's not like anyone under thirty was following her act. Adults have grown up with her and likely wouldn't be offended by anything she would have said in the last few years.

r58, they would've IF she had gone all in for Trump. The Gays were a big demographic for her. And the Gays would not have tolerated a pro Trump comedian. No way.

Of course, nobody can say for sure if she would've been a vocal Trump supporter, but she really seemed to have a tight bond with him since her Celebrity Apprentice days.

The fact that she spent many Thanksgivings delivering food to homebound AIDS patients indicates her alliances

A friend of mine worked on her last series with her daughter. It was a reality show - all faked. The conflicts, the fights - all scripted. I am told she was a lot of fun in real life as well.

It's always weird to me how loyal her fans are (and some of the posts on this thread show) given how conservative she was on many issues and how nasty she could be. It's like Madonna fans who still stick with their heroine no matter what.

I still find it difficult to believe that Joan and Melissa never received Emmys for their engaging and talented performances in the made for TV movie " Tears and Laughter: The Joan and Melissa Rivers Story".

R62 even you can't stop thinking about Madonna

“You’re a poker player, that’s beyond white trash”.

The only Joan Rivers quote I ever got any mileage out of.

You have to respect any 81-year old woman who admits that her vagina farts are so loud that her gynecologist needs to wear ear plugs

"Michael Jackson just bid on the body".

Eddie Murphy after Edgar died

jerry lewis on joan river's death

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the goop fans are alive and well in this thread

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[quote] I don't think you've been paying attention. Trump NEVER laughs at himself. He can't laugh at himself. He never has been able to take a joke at his expense.

Wasn't Trump roasted on Comedy Central? I could see her doing something like that.

I loved Joan but she left this world at the right time. The press would've eaten her alive.

R68 Didn't Jerry Lewis hate everybody at the end of his life? His is a sad story.

Oh, grow up, the woman who lived in this house was a Trumper to the bone...

What’s wrong with being a Polka Player?

^ Polkas get very upset when you play them, Rose

Joan has style and her apartment was beautiful and luxurious. The colors, the antiques, art and furnishings showed she had great classic taste. She made these selections herself. This apartment could have been in Paris. She was a collector of Faberge and used to attend exhibitions that she loaned things, too. Trump had no taste - his was a Las Vegas or Miami style, crude and overblown. He was never a collector of anything, except wives and porn stars.

Jerry Lewis said no women are funny, so fuck him.

My favorite stand-up comedians are women and that includes JOY BEHAR.

I'm not the scat troll, but does anyone else keep reading this as "How Would Joan Rivers Be Farting Today?"

[quote]Jerry Lewis said no women are funny, so fuck him.

That was Jim Belushi.

Joan was awful person, she's like trump where she could dish it out but she could not take it. I'm glad she's dead.

John Belushi.

The Meghan trolls are finding new ways to spew their hatred.

R78 sometimes talks about Joan in the present tense and Trump in the past tense. Is r78 stuck in a time warp?

R81 Jerry Lewis still doesn't think women can be funny

R28, you're wrong; Trump did laugh over at least one impersonator -- Darrell Hammond.

He tweeted that Darrell should be brought back to SNL over Baldwin.

I'd tell you that Trump himself told me that he thought Hammond was funny. but you wouldn't believe me.

Melissa said her mother was a liberal, left wing republican

I’m a Producer!

Melissa must have felt like Marie Antoinette the first time she was handed the keys and opened the door to her very own $28 million penthouse in Manhattan

Jerry Lewis was a fucking asshole until the day he died we’re really listening to anything he has to say? Anyway, just the way Blacks can say the N word and all that, Jews are allowed to make offensive jokes at their expense. Like she said, worry about the Mel Gibsons of this world.

I’ve watched a few of her YouTube interviews from her Fox show during the pandemic, and there was one with Rue McClanahan where she goes out of her way to praise Rivers’s staff. Contrast that with all the goings on of Ellen’s show - and that was someone who had the world convinced for so look that she was “The Queen of Nice.” By all accounts Joan was generous and loyal to those close to her and those who worked with her, which in this business is a rarity. So that comment about her staff stuck with me (especially on a show that was supposedly rife with problems from the outset)

Anyway who knows where she would have stood on all issues but she certainly would have been a needed breath of fresh air.

Jerry Lewis appeared on Joan's first talk show and argued with the child rearing expert that children should be beaten. He came off as the complete asshole that he was and that everyone has said he is. Not sure why he'd go on her show if he felt she wasnt funny and set Jews back, but here he is. What a dick!

People change. Joan showed her true colors when her writers asked for a raise. Are you really a nice person when you can only be nice on your terms?

I've never understood comedians who pay people to write for them, and then take all the recognition. How is that talent? Be interesting to know how much was her work and how much was other peoples.

"Melissa must have felt like Marie Antoinette the first time she was handed the keys and opened the door to her very own $28 million penthouse in Manhattan "

Joan's own self-parody joke about her lavish penthouse was, "This is how Marie Antoinette would have lived if she had money". Even she recognized her house was over-the-top

@r93, Isn't that like saying actors should write their own scripts? The "talent" is in the delivery of the written word

Comic timing is as much a skill as writing a joke. Anyone who ever tried, and failed, to tell a joke knows that.

That’s like saying “Alex Trebek just read Jeopardy answers.” Yet look at all the hosts auditioning for his spot - not one is even a tenth as good.

Watching Joan Rivers's comedy often triggered flashbacks of my childhood bullying memories. It was disgusting how she publicly, cruelly criticized the looks of famous people's children (who had not chosen to be in the spotlight). She regularly used the word "ugly" to describe one politician's daughter. She should have been kinder about that, since she had her own insecurities about her own looks. She also regularly trashed Elizabeth Taylor for gaining weight in the late 70s and early 80s. In LIz' biography in the 80s, she said that after she lost weight, she ran into Joan, and Joan said that all of her bullying had been an attempt to motivate Liz into losing weight. Liz remarked that Joan that trying to "take credit" for her weight loss. I guess she recognized Joan for the lying, grasping, social-climbing suck-up that she was. I always got the feeling that Charles and Camilla were only friends with her because they were afraid of her and what she would say about them. It's just....

Here is some rare footage of Joan Rivers in her first film appearance -- in a mid-60s 'B'-movie called 'Once Upon a Coffee House'. At that time, she was performing in a folk comedy trio. It was on Prime Video for a while as 'Hootenanny A Go-Go' but now it's only rent or buy. Need an extremely lame 60s movie to get high or go to sleep with? It's worth $3 for those reasons alone. Not to mention there are great musical guests like folksinger Oscar Brand, and my personal favourite the GoldeBriars, with an extremely young Curt Boettcher (60s pop music legend).

R98, of course no one wants to be made fun of.

But the image of Liz yelling at the microwave "HURRY", putting mayonnaise on aspirin, and pulling up in a pastry truck when she offered to bring dessert to a dinner party (I think that last one is one of Joan's) contrasted with her beautiful movie star image is funny.

Liz hated being fat and lied about it; she told Barbara Walters that she was okay with it; that she was fine; years later, after losing the weight, she told Babs that she had lied.

Most of you would have liked (or not hated) Trump back in the day.

He was just another loud over the top realtor/TV personality. He was not political though he was friends with the Clintons and gave to liberal Democrats and their causes. Not an admirable guy, but a not overly objectionable clown.

But he was rapidly going broke and figured out that there was money to be made from ignorant right wingers, so started with the Birther thing, which his friends initially thought of as just a weird quirk--why would anyone care what Donald Trump thought about anything political, but then he ran for president and all hell broke loose.

R101, yep, and that's when we started hating him -- stoking race wars, making fun of disabled reporters, the harassment, the bullying, lying about COVID, and inciting an insurrection.

hate him hate him hate him

New Yorkers hated Trump from the start. They knew he was not just a phony, but a total sleazebag. He destroyed precious, historical art when building his NY Trump Tower, because he was too cheap to carefully remove it.

[quote] Upon learning about the historic building’s imminent demolition, and recognizing the cultural value of its ornamentation, the Metropolitan Museum of Art convinced Trump to remove portions of the historic facade and donate them to the institution. Trump agreed–on the condition that the cost to him would not be too high.

[quote] Soon he was backpedalling, after realizing that it would take two more weeks and $32,000–chump change considering the tower cost $100 million to construct–to properly take the reliefs off the building. Using his fake alter ago, a “Trump spokesperson” named John Baron, he told the New York Times in 1980: “The merit of these stones was not great enough to justify the efforts to save them.” His construction workers chopped up the metalwork with torches and let the sculptures fall to the ground to crack into smithereens.

R103 was living in a small town about 40 miles southeast of Omaha at the time, but remembers...

R90, you must be on crack. Joan treated her writers like shit and she paid them even worse

[quote] You have to respect any 81-year old woman who admits that her vagina farts are so loud that her gynecologist needs to wear ear plugs

You find that hilarious? It's just stupid. You must be Joan's age

Joan is lucky she died when she did and that her shitty jewelry still makes money for her daughter.

[quote] Most of you would have liked (or not hated) Trump back in the day.

No. I've known about trump since the 1980s. He's always been a piece of shit. And I've always been amazed that anyone with money would live in a trump building or even go near him. He's always been admired by the lowest class of people

Hating on someone for being what you consider to be "low class" is more a reflection on you R108

R106 just another miserable day in your shitty life, huh?

^^Whereas hating on someone for being a lying fascist scumbag and destroyer of the institution of the presidency is a whole other story.

R111 lower your dosage freak

Howard Stern has a Joan impersonator that comes on from time to time to report whats going on in heaven. She's actually hilarious, sounds just like her, and her jokes are right in line with what Joan herself would say if still around. She was on recently on Joan's birthday and said they were expecting a lot more people up in heaven soon due to "Covid 20" lol