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'From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler'

Was this a formative book for you as a kid? I completely related to Claudia wanting to break out of her boring suburban home, go to the city, and live in a fantastic place and have adventures. And I always wondered if any real children attempted to camp out in the Metropolitan Museum of Art after having read the book.

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by Anonymousreply 74April 22, 2021 4:25 AM

I remember loving this book in 4th grade.

by Anonymousreply 1April 18, 2021 1:12 AM

I didn't camp out, but when I went on a theater trip to NYC I made sure I had lunch in the restaurant with the fountain.

by Anonymousreply 2April 18, 2021 1:13 AM

Another fond memory of this book.

by Anonymousreply 3April 18, 2021 1:13 AM

Loved this book.

by Anonymousreply 4April 18, 2021 1:16 AM

I loved this book, and also Harriet the Spy which also takes place in Manhattan. As a native NYer I’ve always loved books that take place here.

by Anonymousreply 5April 18, 2021 1:34 AM

I loved this book.

So happy somebody dragged it out.

by Anonymousreply 6April 18, 2021 2:05 AM

It made me dream of boldly seeking independence as a little boy. I think it’s a book for a different, pre-digital age though, sadly.

by Anonymousreply 7April 18, 2021 2:08 AM

The 1973 film with Ingrid Bergman in the title role.

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by Anonymousreply 8April 18, 2021 2:11 AM

YThrte was aYV version with Lauren Bacall as Mrs. Basil E. I like all of Konigsberg’s books. She started out as a chemistry teacher!

by Anonymousreply 9April 18, 2021 2:12 AM

Oh this was my favorite book during my grade school years. Big flashbacks.

Never knew of these movies. Are they good?

I think I know what I’m doing tonight!

by Anonymousreply 10April 18, 2021 2:16 AM

I remember loving this book, essentially the idea of camping out at the Met. I always dreamed of having a great museum to myself.

by Anonymousreply 11April 18, 2021 2:25 AM

[quote]a TV version with Lauren Bacall.

Where she served High Point coffee to the children after dinner.

by Anonymousreply 12April 18, 2021 2:35 AM

LOVED it too!

I loved the movie Career Opportunities too. There was always something fascinating about what happened in places at night.

(sort of like how it was exciting to go to your school for some function and then run around looking in the locked classroom windows at night.)

by Anonymousreply 13April 18, 2021 3:59 AM

[quote]I like all of Konigsberg’s books. She started out as a chemistry teacher!

I really liked "(((george)))," which was about a boy with multiple personality disorder. And "About the B'nai Bagels," where a Jewish housewife manages her son's Little League team.

by Anonymousreply 14April 18, 2021 4:03 AM

The Lauren Bacall version (full of FLAVAH) is free on the Tubi streaming platform. (I LIKE that!)

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by Anonymousreply 15April 18, 2021 4:11 AM

This book and its sequel were another rainy day escape. Introduced me to the various types of antique furniture.

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by Anonymousreply 16April 18, 2021 4:11 AM

I'll wait till Tuesday Morning to view it with my coffee.

by Anonymousreply 17April 18, 2021 4:12 AM

LOVED this book. Also LOVED the Gone Away Lake series. I truly believe they sparked my love on antiques. But the books i loved the most were the Borrowers series by Mary Norton.

by Anonymousreply 18April 18, 2021 4:17 AM

[quote] Where she served High Point coffee to the children after dinner.

The Michelangelo statue is BRIMMING WITH FLAY-VA!

by Anonymousreply 19April 18, 2021 4:17 AM

Wes Anderson obviously loved it too; there's a nod to it Royal Tenenbaums.

by Anonymousreply 20April 18, 2021 4:36 AM

I planned my secret lair, it was at the Frick.

by Anonymousreply 21April 18, 2021 4:37 AM

The story took place too far away to inspire me . My runaway inspiration was “The Boxcar Children” wherein a moron checks in on the kids who live in an abandoned railcar even though he knows they’re his grandchildren.

Then, I had my main addictive book series.....

by Anonymousreply 22April 18, 2021 4:49 AM

The Bacall TV remake moved the story to a museum in Pasadena and made other significant changes to the story. I much prefer the Ingrid Bergman version, which also features the late, great George Rose and Madeline Kahn. Interesting that Bogart's two most-closely-associated co-stars ended up assaying the same role.

For fans of the original book I highly recommend Konigsburg's Father's Arcane Daughter (now back in print under the title My Father's Daughter), which was made into the TV film Caroline? with Stephanie Zimbalist, A very powerful book!

by Anonymousreply 23April 18, 2021 5:29 AM

Elizabeth Enright also wrote the Melendy family books. They're certainly terribly dated now, but the sibling relationships are eternal. And I loved the central conceit of "The Saturdays" — four sibs pool their allowances and give it to one person a week, and that child uses it to fulfill a fantasy. One of the pleasures is seeing children roaming New York City alone in a way they never would today.

by Anonymousreply 24April 18, 2021 5:31 AM

r5 you would love Sandra Scoppettone's and Louise Fitzhugh's baby beatnik book [italic]Suzuki Beane[/italic].

by Anonymousreply 25April 18, 2021 5:32 AM

E.L. Konigsburg had several gay characters in her final book, The Mysterious Edge of the Heroic World. A very unusual story about friendship, art, and the sacrifices that people make for love.

by Anonymousreply 26April 18, 2021 5:34 AM

Gone-Away Lake was magical and the original illustrations were gorgeous. It would still make a wonderful movie (if they set it in the 50s).

by Anonymousreply 27April 18, 2021 5:38 AM

One of my favorite childhood memories is being a child extra on the set of "The Pick Up Artist". We shot scenes in the Museum of Natural History at night over a two day period and between takes the guards let us see the dinosaurs and other exhibits, some of them with the lights off and lit by flashlights. Robert Downey Jr. Played hide-and-seek with us as well and was really a very sweet-seeming person from what I recall. We didn't stay the night but it was still thrilling. It felt so otherworldly and illicit.

by Anonymousreply 28April 18, 2021 5:43 AM

I was more of a "Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret " kind of kid who discovered the pleasures of masturbation...

by Anonymousreply 29April 18, 2021 6:15 AM

R24 I bought an old library copy of The Saturdays last year and I treasure it.

I want to get my hands on old hardback copies of all the Melendy books.

by Anonymousreply 30April 18, 2021 6:20 AM

r29. I thought "Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret" would have introduced you to the pleasures of [italic]menstruation.[/italic]

I think you learned the pleasures of [italic]masturbation[/italic] from "Then Again, Maybe I Won't."

by Anonymousreply 31April 18, 2021 6:22 AM

If this is the book where they scooped coins out of the fountain/wishing pool every night to use at the automat then YES I loved this book. I also think about scooping up the coins every time I see a wishing well/fountain full of coins.

by Anonymousreply 32April 18, 2021 12:33 PM

Maybe r29 masturbated to "Are you there...."?

by Anonymousreply 33April 18, 2021 12:41 PM

OMG, this might be my new favorite thread! There are so many books on here I want to read or revisit. There isn’t really another place online like Datalounge when it comes to conversations about subjects like this one!

by Anonymousreply 34April 18, 2021 4:59 PM

I think someone hinted this earlier, but the weird prophetic aspect of this story is that an actual Michelangelo statue, of a Cupid not an Angel, was identified a decade or so ago at a former Whitney mansion. The house is a few blocks away from the Met and was designed by Stanford White and is now part of the French Embassy. The statue is on loan and on display at the Met.

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by Anonymousreply 35April 18, 2021 5:07 PM

I loved "Mixed-Up Files" as many of you did and also read "Harriet the Spy". The paperback novel I still own is "The Cricket in Times Square." Now that book, for some reason was really special. Last year I re-read the end of "Cricket" and it was still marvelous.

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by Anonymousreply 36April 18, 2021 5:46 PM

R32, yes. I loved this book! I wanted to hide out in a museum just like Claudia and Jamie.

by Anonymousreply 37April 18, 2021 5:52 PM

I never read this book. Loved Harriet the Spy and Long Secret (perhaps more as it reminded me of summer on Nantucket in that era). Also a fan of Melendy Family, although the child abuse issue presented was disturbing.

ARE YOU THERE GOD? was on our summer reading lists in junior high. I had A LOT of questions for my mom about it at the time!

by Anonymousreply 38April 18, 2021 5:54 PM

What a great story r28.

Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 39April 18, 2021 6:32 PM

Some of you here may find these collected archived articles about Children’s Literature from the New Yorker of interest.

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by Anonymousreply 40April 18, 2021 8:13 PM

Just going to toss this one out there as well.

The Pushcart War by Jean Merrill.

by Anonymousreply 41April 18, 2021 10:52 PM

I LOVE The Pushcart War. I read it to my students a couple of months ago and they loved it. There are so many classic children's books that are becoming forgotten, as school libraries simply throw out anything that hasn't been checked out in the last couple of years. But when teachers read them in class the students love them as much as always.

by Anonymousreply 42April 19, 2021 12:03 AM

I wanted to present young preteen hole to George The Babysitter.

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by Anonymousreply 43April 19, 2021 1:30 AM

I adored the Melendey family books and have them in hardback from the forties. The kids and the adults in their lives are all wonderful characters. Mrs. Oliphant is my favorite.

Another couple from the same period that were brilliant were Kate Seredy's books about rural Hungary - The Good Master and The Singing Tree.

One of the early Newberry winners that I remember really enjoying was The Trumpeter of Krakow from the 20s but I don't recall much about it at this point. Sixty year old memory...

by Anonymousreply 44April 19, 2021 2:08 AM

We read this book in fifth grade, then later that year, we took a field trip to the Met. It was absolutely awesome. Before going to the Met, we had lunch at South Street Seaport. Great memories.

by Anonymousreply 45April 19, 2021 2:17 AM

Yes, I loved it and when I was in NYC several years ago, I brought it up to the woman who served us at the MOMA cafe. Yes, different magazine but we had a great time talking about the book and wanting to get locked up in a museum.

by Anonymousreply 46April 19, 2021 2:20 AM

Last night I watched the 1973 movie version linked above on YouTube. It was just OK. No surprise that the young actors who played Claudia and Jamie didn't go on to Jodie Foster-style careers.

by Anonymousreply 47April 19, 2021 2:29 AM

The Teddy Beat Habit is another great NYC kid’s book.

by Anonymousreply 48April 19, 2021 2:33 AM

^^ Bear. Though it takes place in the Beat era.

by Anonymousreply 49April 19, 2021 2:34 AM

I was a nerdy kid who loved to read but I thought this book was boring.

by Anonymousreply 50April 19, 2021 2:36 AM

i was a total bookworm and i can't believe i never read this book. grew up in late 70s/early 80s.

by Anonymousreply 51April 19, 2021 2:50 AM

Thanks, R39! I remember that our "camp out space" was the hall of aquatic birds, and talking to all these much older character actors who were playing the adult extras. I remember the huge lights they had set up to imitate daylight flooding the main entrance and how unbelievable the effect looked at night. And I remember seeing Molly Ringwald, who I was kind of obsessed with and being too shy to go talk to her. I've never actually read the Mixed Up Files, but every time people talk about it I think of those two nights.

My mom was obsessed with museums and theater so we kids had a lot of "backstage" experiences with both. I asked her what she remembered of this episode and she said that she remembered feeling sorry for RDJ because she thought he was a kid who never got attention from his parents (I guess he was about 20-21 when he made the film) and was therefore the class clown forever.

Punchline - as there is evidently an explicit sexual dialogue that goes on in one scene she never let us watch the film - and I still haven't seen it to this day.

I think I'd rather remember it from where I was.

by Anonymousreply 52April 19, 2021 3:51 AM

Konigsburg wrote so many quirky, perceptive children's booksin addition to "Mixed-Up Files." A non-cutesy sense of children's sometimes very adult feelings, and usually a wistful backbeat or undertone, even when things were humorous . . . These were a few of my faves from her long list . . ,

"Jennifer, Hecate, Macbeth, William McKinley, and Me, Elizabeth"--Inter-class, inter-racial friendship is the least important motif in the story . . .

"About the B'nai Bagels"--Jewish mother becomes the temple boys' softball team coach, to the mortification (but ultimate pride) of her due-to-be-Bar-Mitvah son

"The Dragon in the Ghetto Caper"

"(george)"--Heartrending story about a mentally ill boy with split personality

"The View From Saturday"--1997 Newbery Award--A teacher returns to school after an accident that kills her husband and leaves her a paraplegic; she and several misfit students win the Academic Bowl competition . . . and hearts . . .

by Anonymousreply 53April 19, 2021 4:17 AM

I never read a Konigsburg book I didn't love. She had a knack for getting inside young people's heads and never talked down to them.

by Anonymousreply 54April 21, 2021 2:43 AM

I loved From the Mixed Up Files. In 1967, one of the librarians at our local public library on Long Island asked my parents if I could appear on a radio show to discuss the book. My mother, who was an avid reader and who had passed on to all of her three kids this love of reading, was thrilled. I thought it was great. A few years ago I discovered that all of the shows from this interviewer had been transcribed and were available online. I was 12 when this took place, so I don’t believe that I had anything particularly insightful to say. Appearing on the show was a blast.

by Anonymousreply 55April 21, 2021 3:04 AM

I never read the books, but one of my college friends was racking her brains trying to remember the title of this series. I didn’t know what she was talking about or what this was called, but the name just popped in my head out of nowhere & I blurted it out. It shocked both of us!

by Anonymousreply 56April 21, 2021 4:38 AM

I was more of a “Don’t Eat the Pictures” kind of kid:

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by Anonymousreply 57April 21, 2021 5:05 AM

The Mysterious Shrinking House by Jane Louise Curry

by Anonymousreply 58April 21, 2021 5:30 AM

OMG R58 ! I loved that one too and had totally forgotten it ! Thank you !

by Anonymousreply 59April 21, 2021 11:43 PM

Freddy the Pig!

Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle!

Miss Pickerell

Swallows and Amazons!

by Anonymousreply 60April 22, 2021 12:40 AM

This is THE book that made me want to live in NYC. Read it when I was, I think, 9?

Moved to NYC after college. Still here after 20 years.

by Anonymousreply 61April 22, 2021 12:47 AM

I remember liking the first part of the book where the kids run away and live in the Met. But the second half of the story lost my attention.

by Anonymousreply 62April 22, 2021 12:50 AM

R61, me too. I was enchanted by the New York books I dearly loved: “Harriet The Spy”, “Tales of a Fourth Grade Nothing”, “From the Mixed-Up Files...” “The Catcher In The Rye”

Now I live on the Upper East Side, a few blocks from the Met and a few blocks from Harriet’s townhouse. Still madly in love with this city; been here 33 years.

by Anonymousreply 63April 22, 2021 1:15 AM

[quote] Still madly in love with this city;

Mary!

by Anonymousreply 64April 22, 2021 1:19 AM

Did you also read Dinky Hocker Shoots Smack, R63?

I read that in 6th grade and it cemented my focus on NYC. I liked the idea of a city where kids could go anywhere they wanted on a subway and have intellectual conversations in diners after school.

by Anonymousreply 65April 22, 2021 1:21 AM

"Dinky Hooker Shoots Smack"?

This was an actual kids' book?

Was the next in the series "Teeny Pimp Presents Hole"?

by Anonymousreply 66April 22, 2021 1:29 AM

Eloise by the maniacal Kay Thompson. I so wanted to live at the Plaza.

by Anonymousreply 67April 22, 2021 1:52 AM

r66, the title was actually "Dinky [italic]Hocker[/italic] Shoots Smack!"

And the heroine did not actually shoot smack. She was an overweight pre-teen whose mother was a "feeder," and who ignored Dinky's weight problems in favor of her pet cause, leading the PTA's fight against teenage drug use. Dink had to embarrass her mom by writing the title as a graffito at some sort of school event to get her to pay attention to her weight problem.

by Anonymousreply 68April 22, 2021 2:04 AM

And it put Brooklyn Heights on the YA map.

by Anonymousreply 69April 22, 2021 2:41 AM

R68, ahh, I misread the post.

You must admit that's kind of a fucked-up title for a kids' book anyway.

by Anonymousreply 70April 22, 2021 2:57 AM

R70 The best crazy YA titles were from Paul Zindel, such as Pardon Me, Your Stepping on My Eyeball!

by Anonymousreply 71April 22, 2021 3:12 AM

[quote]And it put Brooklyn Heights on the YA map.

Bells Are Ringing did it for the GAY map.

by Anonymousreply 72April 22, 2021 3:38 AM

YA was a WHOLE different ballgame than "kids books," R70.

In the late '60s and early '70s, publishing and network TV became obsessed with "relevancy," which brought about a whole bunch of crap content kids falling prey to drugs, cults, sex, dropping out, running way, etc., — ESPECIALLY in book publishing.

Dinky Hocker Shoots Smack was a really smart critique of that — the author wrote a book about typical teens with typical teen problems of loneliness, belonging and romantic yearning, but to pump up the sales figures she put "shoots smack" in the title, which was the same phrase the book's heroine posted around town to get her anti-drug-activist mother to notice her.

by Anonymousreply 73April 22, 2021 4:23 AM

OP: are you Rami Malek?

The Frankweiler book played a key part in an episode of Mr Robot.

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by Anonymousreply 74April 22, 2021 4:25 AM
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