Bernie Madoff is DEAD TO ME

good riddance - wish there were more of them like him rotting in jail

What a tragic, sad, and lonely end for a once-great figure.

Literally just hit Twitter, will share more traditional article is it becomes available

He apparently asked for release a few months ago, I didn't know

[quote]good riddance - wish there were more of them like him rotting in jail

At least he capitalized and used periods.

He was my mentor! Heaven needed another angel!

Has anyone asked Ruth, currently living on $1.9 million in Connecticut, for comment?

Have Kevin and Kyra commented?

I thought he was dead.

Just a few thousand more fucking scumbags to go.

Mr. Madoff is in one of the best-laid plans ever.

AP article:

His approach was way too complicated.

He sure did, R5. He capitalized on the trust of others and wiped out their bank accounts. Period.

He will get special privileges and a seat at Satan’s round table.

I watched the HBO/Netflix doc and movie with Michelle Pfeiffer and am still puzzled how he got away with his scam. Good riddance.

R14, just to add to what you said: he also capitalized on the GREED of others.

We had to eat store bought after his arrest.

STORE BOUGHT!

R16, if it’s something people want to believe, they’ll do their best to destroy anyone who’s poking holes in their favorite delusion.

The Madoff story is a modern Shakespearean tragedy. The Widow Madoff stands alone. She must be one tough cookie.

He's got to have MILLIONS stashed in Swiss bank accounts!

Can I have his stuff?

@r19, We've been waiting for you...

So, how are you?

IDK, R18- any person that invests and see's HUGE profits will be happy and invest more. If that is greed, 100 percent of all investors are greedy. Or, humans...really.

Weird, for some reason I felt the urge to check his wikipedia page for some unknown reason to see if he was dead a few days ago. Did I cause this?

Room for Trump now.

No excuses.

If you did R24, I have a list of others for you to look up. Start with: Graham, Lindsey; Kardashian, Any; and Goldman Sachs, The Board of

TIA!

R26, you forgot to mention Mitch McConnell and Ted Cruz.

^ Thank you, but you forgot Gaetz as well

Can we add Melania too?

Interesting article

NOW Prince Philip has an appropriate playmate in heaven.

[quote]At least he capitalized and used periods.

fuck off, criminal. hope you die in a grease fire in cell block H

What was on his iPod?

Will Ruth do the casket dance?

R24 R27 R28

Don't you....forget about me!

No, no, no!

Girls! Girls! It was just meant to be a starter list. You can all have someone you want dead!

I don't wish anyone dead. But incarcerated sounds delish!

from article at R30:

[quote]Among Madoff’s investors were European hedge funds, elderly retirees and a range of nonprofits. Among his victims were some of the most prominent Jewish institutions in the country, as well as Jewish celebrities like Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel and Sandy Koufax, the Hall-of-Fame pitcher.

[quote]Madoff’s investors included Yeshiva University, elite Orthodox Jewish day schools in New York and Boston, Hadassah, the Women’s Zionist Organization of America, and other Jewish organizations and family foundations.

[quote]Many of those investors had met Madoff through the small world of Jewish philanthropy in New York and south Florida, and placed their money with his fund via friends of his such as Jeffrey Picower and J. Ezra Merkin, who operated hedge funds that invested heavily with Madoff. Merkin, a former president of the elite Fifth Avenue Synagogue in Manhattan, directed perhaps $1 billion of congregants’ money to Madoff, according to the New York Times.

[quote]So when Madoff, facing increasing pressure due to a national financial crisis, confessed his crime in 2008, the effects were felt across American Jewry. Following the confession, the Jewish Funders Network, which convenes Jewish donors, brought together 35 of the largest Jewish foundations to create a plan to provide emergency funding to some of Madoff’s victims.

[quote]Around that time, the Anti-Defamation League also documented an uptick in anti-Semitism that it concluded stemmed from the news of Madoff’s fraud.

Hose out that cell and get it ready for Trump.

Not a fan of the Kardashians but have they really ripped people off? Their products might suck but the people who buy them want them. I recall the three Kardi sisters cancelling a contract for a Kardi Visa card because it's policies were usurious and unfair. They might be venal and attention whores but I don't think they can be compared to Madoff, Trump, et al.

Refresh Grandpa’s memory.....wasn’t there a recent thread here where some celebrity interview revealed that another old time actress lost all her $$$ to Bernie M? That one brain cell I still have seems to remember something like this.

[quote]Hose out that cell and get it ready for Trump.

Is there any reason for it to be clean?

R41. Rue

This 2018 Bloomberg article says that a lawyer had recovered about 70% of people's money - interestingly by targeting the profits people took from the ponzi before the ponzi ended.

Besides Kyra Sedgewick and Kevin Bacon, Madoff victims include Jeffery Katzenberg, John Malkovich, Larry King, Steven Spielberg (and his charitable foundation), and Zsa Zsa Gabor (!)

famed (elder) supermodel, Carmen Dell'Orefice

He also robbed my favorite model. The ONLY Supermodel. Carmen Dell'Orefice.

Newer info says that over 80% of the lost money has been recovered:

"The MVF .received over 65,000 petitions from victims in 136 countries. “With the $488 mil. distributed today, the dept has now returned almost $3.2 billion to Madoff's victims, allowing them to recover more than 80% of what they lost,” said Act. Asst. Atty Gnrl Brian C. 12/2020

They think they can get it to over 90%. So not the worst ending but people thought they'd lost everything and won't be getting profits.

The Estate of Jackie on Assistance was forced to apply for . . . assistance.

Will ANYONE go to the funeral? I think Jews have to be buried within 24 hours.

It's good they are getting that large percentage of their investment back, but there is still loss of principle, as well as interest earnings they would have accrued. However, in these intervening years, a lot of people have had to sell real property and down size dramatically, as well liquidate other personal property.

Granted, not a one of them ended up in a housing project. But these years have been wrenching.

[quote]any person that invests and see's HUGE profits

Oh, DEAR.

"....loss of principle..."

Oh, dear!!

He lived a dream, was rich all his life and only served a couple of his 150-year sentence. I feel like he won.

Thank you r43.

[quote]Will ANYONE go to the funeral? I think Jews have to be buried within 24 hours.

Where will it be held? On a severely limited budget here.

Stop.

One of the victims said, in court "May Satan grow a fourth mouth where Bernie Madoff can spend the rest of eternity."

I'm not up on my Satanology, but I wasn't aware that he had three to begin with?

R54, and I remember reading that he was well-liked by the other inmates in prison. Or I could have made that up.

I yearn for the day I come to DL and read the same thing about Trump.

[quote] said: he also capitalized on the GREED of others

Dog whistle anti-semitism, because his “clients” were mostly Jewish. No, it’s not “greedy” to invest in the hopes of making a profit. It’s human nature, and actually necessary for survival.

I don’t want trump dead until he has been held accountable for his crimes.

So young.

R40, the Kardashians may not have stolen people's money the way Madoff did, true. What they have done though, is cheapen the value of fame and stardom. I know that sounds ridiculous, but I think it's contributed to the coarsening of our culture, though the fat ass, other implants, tight clothes and mind-numbing missed priorities helped too.

So yeah, I think we'd be better off without them.

60 Minutes just uploaded a 30 segment about Ruth and Andrew. It hasn't been available before, only a few clips.

30 minute segment

Sorry, R61, that's not anti-semitism, that's greed, pure and simple. Most of these people had substantial dollars to invest, and they were well-aware of the rates of return that they could normally expect. So when Bernie comes along, and offers many multiples of that return, and never has a losing year, even in a down-turned market, then you absolutely know that something's fishy, but because your statement shows you making money, you choose to turn a blind eye. Definitional greed, pure and simple, for most of those investors.

To raise badly needed funds, Ruth Madoff will be hosting a "Weekend At Bernie's" at her modest Connecticut residence. Please wear a mask.

Yes, R68. It's gonna be a blast.

But be to sure to BYOB.

His tombstone will be shaped like a ponzi pyramid.

I once read an anecdote- don't know if it's true- that he was buying-up all the hot chocolate packets in the prison store and reselling them at a higher price to inmates.

"I remember reading that he was well-liked by the other inmates in prison. Or I could have made that up. "

Yes, with some cellmates he was able to double their allotment of bread and water. Those who came in late are reduced to crackers no water

I think he had big ideas and was a mover and shaker (albeit not a brash one) since he was a young man. And got caught up in his doings because he enjoyed the high of what he created and what he could do. What he did was behind the pale and he deserved his punishment, but I don’t feel his core was evil.

I do think that Trump, Graham, Crawley, Koch, and others of their ilk are truly evil and mentally ill.

Did the coroner indicate how long his cerebral cortex may have been active after saying he's dead?

Were he and Ruth still married, or did she divorce him after he went up the river?

All con men are well like, R59. That is how they con people.

Con artists are all the same. Charm, wit, friendly, "charismatic". If you meet one, run.

I’m curious why Plump never pardoned him. Two peas in a pod.

She never divorced him, although she allegedly cut ties with him after both the sons were dead. You'll never convince me she didn't know what was happening.

[quote] So when Bernie comes along, and offers many multiples of that return, and never has a losing year, even in a down-turned market, then you absolutely know that something's fishy, but because your statement shows you making money,

Funny then that even the SEC didn’t “know” that. Screaming GREED about investors who were mostly Jewish is absolutely dog whistle behavior.

Ruth worked as his bookkeeper for a while, apparently, and said she tried to commit suicide along with Bernie when it first came out. That does give me pause although a financial crime like this would be easy to hide from a spouse if you don't tell them and they don't have access to the accounts. I'd like to know if he was doing it when she was his bookkeeper.

R72: some of the more impressionable inmates were apparently in awe of him and the extent of his criminal history.

R61 thinks Jews are greedy. Hmm.

Greed is universal.

The other inmates treated him politely and respectfully because he was an "older and distinguished gentleman."

@r61, Rue McClanahan was Jewish? I didn't know

Yes because Rue McClanahan was “most of Madoff’s ‘clients’” after all 🙄

R64, and not just the Kardashians...television is rife with no talent losers. Teen Mom or Jersey Shore. Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie...the Paul brothers.

[quote]Those who came in late are reduced to crackers no water

They didn't get fruit cup either.

When he admitted to his sons and Ruth what he had done he asked his sons to give him 24 hours to get his affairs in order. They didn't and called the cops right away. They say neither of the 2 sons ever spoke to him again after he was arrested. And we all know what happened to them. Mark hung himself with a dog leash from a pipe in the ceiling of his living room while his 2 year old was asleep in his crib. And Matthew died of cancer. What a sad sad story.

Ruthie outlived and outcunted them all

I’ll be honest, I think it’s gross that Bernie is so vilified more than actual mass murderers. I think that in and of itself speaks to people’s greed. Yes, he was horrible and belonged behind bars. But the wailing and gnashing of teeth is way over the top. It’s fucking money, he is a criminal but not satan.

i want to add that he is so villified bc he stole from the wealthy. And yes, yes I know not all his investors were wealthy. But he stole heavily from the 1% and that is why we are meant to hare him so. I hate payday and subprime mortgage lenders more than I hate Bernie

At least he made sure he kept his two sons out of the side of the business where all the scamming was going on.

Dropping dead is certainly one way to get out of serving a 150-year sentence.

R92 That may have spared them criminal involvement and culpability, but it did not spare them from public outrage that ultimately cost them their young lives.

The elder son, Mark, was overcome with anxiety and depression in the scandal's fallout that led to his suicide on the Ponzi's second anniversary at the age of 46. He left behind a wife and four children.

The younger son, Andrew, suffered a recurrence of past cancer in 2011 and died in 2014 at 48. He was in the middle of a divorce at the time of his death, and left behind a fiancée and one child.

There are many who doubted the assertion that Madoff's sons, wife, and other family members weren't involved in the scheme. Personally, I've never believed that they were involved. As diabolical as Bernie Madoff was, I do think he kept his family completely in the dark. However, that doesn't mean that the wife and sons weren't paid from ill-gotten gains. The bankruptcy trustee has for years been pursuing estate claims to recoup assets to return to Madoff victims.

The inmates respected him because he didn't rat on anyone else. Being a snitch is a bad thing in prison.

It's very sad when a child goes before a parent.

Or so I've heard.

As the sole beneficiary, I will continue to bravely soldier on, Mrs. Ramsey.

He's only in prison because rich people were greedy. Is that an oxymoron?

r64 the Kardashians went low and then Cardi B went lower... how low can the bar go I hate to see

[quote] Dog whistle anti-semitism, because his “clients” were mostly Jewish.

Poster is delusional.

R98 he was in prison because he lied and committed fraud. How are you supposed to know if he was for real or not?

A bigtime crook who robbed from the rich, didn't give it to the poor; kept it for himself.

I watched that clip at r65. Ruthie sounds like she smokes two packs of Marlboro Reds before lunch.

The reason why so much money was retrieved from this particular scam artist is that the investigators worked extra hard to get the 1%ers their money back. I highly doubt any of the poor retirees, who lost their money through investment brokers, got it back.

And, of course, he got punished for betraying "his own", the rich.

[quote] because it's policies were usurious

Oh, dear!

[quote] What he did was behind the pale

Please tell me that was a typo and you know the actual expression.

No, he actually did it... behind the pale. He couldn't do it out in front of the pale for everyone to see.

^ And now he's in the ash pale. The circle of life

Did somebody say 'The Circle of Life'?

^ Yeah, but now I regret it

There's been a death. Only an Elton John song will do.

Will Elton be performing yet another version of "Candle in the Wind" for Bernie?

R104 that's total bullshit. ALL of the investors have at this point gotten back at least 75% of their original investment (that means 75 cents for every one dollar). The reason they got that much back is that the Trustee went after the 1% and reclaimed money that they had withdrawn over the years. Try reading sometime, or is it just easier spreading lies, like repugs.

[quote]The inmates respected him because he didn't rat on anyone else.

Not to mention an insatiable bottom.