I want to look like her. Tiffany Welles is my idol!
Shelley Hack - why is she so popular?
|by Anonymous||reply 246||Last Sunday at 7:59 AM|
Because she thinks your way!
|by Anonymous||reply 1||04/12/2021|
Tiffany Welles was the epitome of East coast sophistication.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||04/12/2021|
Is Shelley more popular than Veronica Lake? Because I know Veronica is really popular. I want to look like her and I am a 50 yo gay man. Doesn't everyone, nowadays?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||04/12/2021|
I don’t know who the fuck Veronica Lake is. I’m 47 yrs led.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||04/12/2021|
OK. Well you know who is really popular? Lady Godiva. She is so popular, the most popular gal nowadays, that Lady Godiva. From the famous chocolate family you know.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||04/12/2021|
[Quote] I’m 47 yrs led.
Led to wter?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||04/12/2021|
R5 go jump in the toilet.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||04/12/2021|
Toilets are very popular.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||04/12/2021|
I’m a Tiffany troll!
|by Anonymous||reply 9||04/12/2021|
Here she is starring in Cutter to Houston a medical series with Alec Baldwin. Nowadays, he's the big star!
|by Anonymous||reply 10||04/12/2021|
Op: is aging badly. Her Caftan is tatty.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||04/12/2021|
II want to discuss Thelma Ritter. Just why is she so popular? And Karen Valentine? Well?
|by Anonymous||reply 12||04/12/2021|
Because she's the fragrance that's here TODAY!
|by Anonymous||reply 13||04/12/2021|
Tiffany kicks ass
|by Anonymous||reply 14||04/12/2021|
What about Clara Bow - she has IT!
|by Anonymous||reply 15||04/12/2021|
I think the secret to her DL popularity is her immense sense of style.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||04/13/2021|
OP’s video is a great representation of Miss Tiffany Welles.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||04/13/2021|
I watched "King of Comedy" way after it came out and was surprised to see Shelly Hack in there.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||04/13/2021|
Her hair always looked like it needed a good conditioner...maybe VO5 hot oil treatment.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/13/2021|
Hair always looked good to me.
Shelley was mentioned on the Sopranos. The guys even broke into singing the Charlie commercial (Hesh and Paulie Walnuts, etc.).
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/13/2021|
[quote]II want to discuss Thelma Ritter. Just why is she so popular?
Hey now, let’s leave Queen Thelma out of this.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||04/13/2021|
Thelma was the best thing in Rear Window.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||04/13/2021|
What about the mid-80’s classic Jack and Mike?
|by Anonymous||reply 23||04/13/2021|
Did Aaron just not re-new her contract for season 5? That must have been painful for her. I actually don't think she was THAT bad, they never really developed her character of Tiffany Welles. Shelley must have had a great agent, because after getting FIRED from "Charlies Angels" she was cast as the lead in 2 other network series.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||04/13/2021|
R24 I think it was a network decision. The ratings weren’t good. They needed a scapegoat and so she was an easy one. If they wanted a renewal they would have to replace her. Besides the search for an Angel always generated press so it was a win/win. I agree they never really gave her a chance and in later episodes I think she started to develop the character.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||04/13/2021|
Let's face it. She was also flat-chested and it was a show that featured women running down the street, jiggling. Somehow, Kate Jackson was OK, maybe because Farrah Fawcett made up for all that was lacking.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||04/13/2021|
I think it would have been very difficult for the show to survive both the loss of Fawcett AND Jackson. Bringing on new people in a pretty small cast (only 5 actors) is hard for viewers to adapt to. Shows that do this tend to suffer. ALL IN THE FAMILY comes to mind. Losing Sally Struthers and Rob Reiner creatively killed that show.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||04/13/2021|
Jackson wanted out like Farrah. If I was Aaron I would have made Kate suffer and fulfill her contract of 5 years. Kate got to walk, no lawsuit, no 6 required "guest appearances" like Farrah. It was really unfair. If I was Jaclyn and Cheryl I would have been pissed.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||04/13/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 29||04/13/2021|
Yes, I too question this as is she? Have you seen my pussy?
|by Anonymous||reply 30||04/13/2021|
Was I there?
I don't think so.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||04/13/2021|
They always just pointed over their shoulders and said, "before girls."
|by Anonymous||reply 32||04/13/2021|
Tanya Roberts was awful - Shelly must have laughed her ass off when they announced Roberts as her replacement.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/13/2021|
Shelly Hack is wonderful in her Charlie ads. I just love seeing them on the TEEVEE. I can't wait til later this spring when I can nip over to the Carlyle for a cocktail with Bobby Short. Then a twirl at Studio 54. Who's game?
|by Anonymous||reply 34||04/13/2021|
Stupid asses post here! Ugh! Shelly Hack’s season 4 of Charlie’s Angels finished the top 20 of tv shows. Season 5 dropped into the 40s-50s.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||04/13/2021|
r35 I don't understand why they fired her? She must have been REALLY difficult to work with..
|by Anonymous||reply 36||04/13/2021|
Did Jaclyn Smith really want to get out of her contract? She seemed like she appreciated the work (money).
|by Anonymous||reply 37||04/13/2021|
Is Shelley off Angels now? Who is on it next season? Is Shelley going Hollywood? Gonna be the pictures?
|by Anonymous||reply 38||04/13/2021|
Jaclyn struck me as loyal to the show although she was admittedly very ready to leave by the last year.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||04/13/2021|
R39 I think both Jaclyn AND Cheryl were. They managed to survive and still thrive with Farrah leaving. But when Kate left it was too much. They should’ve just kept Shelley through the end of the series. A revolving door cast doesn’t bode well for high ratings.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||04/13/2021|
Who here flicked their bean to her poster?
|by Anonymous||reply 41||04/13/2021|
R24 that's THREE series - after ANGELS she also landed NIGHT COURT and did a day or two of work and got fired from that too, or left.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||04/13/2021|
r42 Are you kidding me? How in the fuck did she keep getting hired? No talent what so ever, and pretty, but nothing spectacular by any means. I remember Aaron offered her acting lessons and she refused
|by Anonymous||reply 43||04/13/2021|
I think Cheryl Ladd was more approachable.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||04/13/2021|
Let's be clear: Kate Jackson invented "Charlie's Angels", the name and the whole concept were her ideas! (she never got paid a cent for her ideas though!) So without Kate Jackson, no "Charlie's Angels". She was the only actress on the show and she knew the ropes. The other inexperienced angels learned a lot from her. She was the leader on and off screen, protecting the other girls from being overworked. Jackson also demanded better scripts because she had been promised a show with more depth. The executives didn't like for a woman to speak her mind. The 70's... That's where "she's difficult" started. A woman not wanting to don a bikini but wanting to improve the show! You go, girl! By early season 3 Spelling wouldn't let Jackson do "Kramer vs. Kramer" and that's when she definitely wanted out. She fulfilled her contract and finished season 3 and told them she'd quit so Spelling told her she can't quit she's fired. In a documentary Spelling recalls saying "hell, what next!!" after Jackson had told them she wanted to do something else. So they were desperate because they were going to lose their real star, the real actress with the special something, who had been there from the beginning! Jaclyn said she hated to see Kate go. Which is no surprise. Kate, Farrah and Jaclyn had true chemistry. Charlie's Angels was never the same after Kate Jackson left.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||04/13/2021|
r45 IF that true that Kate was the only actress on the show and so important to the series, than why didi they let her walk out with 2 years left on her contract? They sue Farrah, stop her from working with a non-compete, and make her come back for 6 guest appearances. Kate has a hissy fit and calls the shots? They didn't let Jaclyn do the James Bond movie "Moonraker" and it makes sense that Kate couldn't do "Kramer VS Kramer". They had contract obligations, "Charlies Angels" made those girls.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||04/14/2021|
Kate needs to remember the role in "Kramer vs Kramer" didn't win an Academy Award, it was the PERFORMANCE. Meryl Streep compared to Jackson is a ridiculous comparison.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||04/14/2021|
I think Kate could have been very good in Kramer vs Kramer. Would it have been a different performance? Of course. Meryl Streep was also at the beginning of her career. R47 you're making a comparison on a career of a body of work.
Kate Jackson also if I remember has never spoken publicly about not being able to do the role. But I could see how as an actress being offered as role as prestigious as that and not being able to do it. It would be a disappointment.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||04/14/2021|
Shelley Hack is NOT popular. She is everyone's least favorite angel. I would even go so far as to say Shelley Hack is hated. The rot set in when she joined.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||04/14/2021|
I was surprised to see that Shelley hosted one of those clips shows for Charlie's Angels in the late 1990s / early 2000s.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||04/14/2021|
Shelly Hack IS popular. She is MY FAVORITE ANGEL! She is NOT HATED.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||04/14/2021|
[quote] Charlie's Angels was never the same after Kate Jackson left.
To be fair, the “quality” of the writing started taking a nosedive in Season 3. And the boring Kris solo episode, “Rosemary for Resemblance” at the end of S3 was a preview of what was to come in S4 where we got a lot of solo Angel episodes which tended to be boring (the exception being the Big Aggie episode which will always be a series standout!). The best episode of S4 by far was the three Angels being hunted on an island.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||04/14/2021|
The 2 things I love about the S4 Angel Hunt episode id that Kris and Kelly don't even try to help Tiffany, or even look for her, and that after finding out the Angels caught the bad guy, Charlie speeds away from the island so they don't see him, yet the island is still full of Tigers
|by Anonymous||reply 53||04/14/2021|
I love r59’s take on that episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||04/14/2021|
Focused and galvanized
|by Anonymous||reply 55||04/14/2021|
Tiffany & Kris are onto something
|by Anonymous||reply 56||04/14/2021|
Toot toot hey beep beep
|by Anonymous||reply 57||04/14/2021|
Jac & Hack
|by Anonymous||reply 58||04/14/2021|
Hot on your ass in the orange Pinto!
|by Anonymous||reply 59||04/14/2021|
Kris: “Poor Tiffany.”
Kelly: “Which one is she?”
|by Anonymous||reply 60||04/14/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 61||04/14/2021|
If Shelly had sex reassignment surgery
|by Anonymous||reply 62||04/14/2021|
Gorgeous and underrated
|by Anonymous||reply 63||04/14/2021|
My hair may need a Alberto VO5 hot oil treatment but I’m still chic.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||04/14/2021|
R52 who really watched CA for the literate scripts? It was mainly about t and a and the chemistry the cast had before Kate left. Spelling knew how to do junk food entertainment like no other.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||04/14/2021|
Actually the best episode of S4 was Harrigan's Angel with Howard Duff. Its a terrific episode. Actually one of the best of the series.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||04/14/2021|
R66 I hated that episode.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||04/14/2021|
Shelley Hack is HATED! Her hoity-toity mien was the dead weight that began dragging the show down to the depths. Even the in-your-face street smarts of Tanya Roberts could not save the sinking ship. I hate Shelley Hack!
|by Anonymous||reply 68||04/14/2021|
Bye bye r68.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||04/14/2021|
[quote]IF that true that Kate was the only actress on the show and so important to the series, than why didi they let her walk out with 2 years left on her contract?
Kate signed a seven-year contract with Spelling-Goldberg to do The Rookies. She was committed to do another series with them if The Rookies got canceled before then, which it did.
That's why she was in on Charlie's Angels from the creation. She did four seasons of The Rookies and three of Charlie's Angels.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||04/14/2021|
R70 don’t really give a shit. She was my least favorite. I was happy to see her go.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||04/14/2021|
[quote] who really watched CA for the literate scripts? It was mainly about t and a and the chemistry the cast had before Kate left.
That’s true...to a point. As a gayling I definitely wasn’t interested in the T&A aspect! And as far as chemistry there was a lot of it in S1, but Kate and Cheryl had very little of it which is quite evident in hindsight. The strength of Season 2 was that it had fun premises - the circus, a beauty pageant, Hawaii...
If there had been more episodes like “Angel Hunt” in S4 I think the show would have remained Top 10 in the ratings. And Shelley would have given a fair chance. She did get more likable as the season progressed.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||04/14/2021|
Yeah it didn’t remain in the Top 10. Instead the Top 20.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||04/14/2021|
Shelley did her own stunts. Would Jaclyn have done this? I don’t fucking think so!
|by Anonymous||reply 74||04/14/2021|
So, she's a real "jack of all trades" r74?
|by Anonymous||reply 75||04/14/2021|
She was a master of modelling.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||04/14/2021|
Way too many episodes from S4 listed here. I think OP voted a hundred times or something.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||04/14/2021|
Shelley turned down the role of Joanna in KRAMER VS. KRAMER, too, but you don’t hear her bitching about it.
Kate was like a dog with a bone.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||04/14/2021|
For Jaclyn Smith fans, watch "Shear Genius," specifically, the season featuring DL favorite Tabatha Coffey.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||04/14/2021|
R46 Of course it is true! R70 explains it perfectly. On a side note Farrah was paid $150,000 Dollars for each of her guest appearances. None of the involved were allowed to make this public for several years.
As I said Jackson created the show that made those girls. It also made Kate a huge star but she was already very popular with audiences when she did "The Rookies". Kate was no Barbie Doll and never intended to be one. Instead she brought warmth, depth and credibility to the show. Also comedy. She changed a lot of things. Kate said it was the most fun creating characters that weren't written in the scripts, doing accents, doing anything that made the character and the scenes completely different in a good way. It is widely recognized that Kate Jackson was the only true actress on the show. And a very talented one at that who had studied at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts in NYC. She had a lot of acting experience when she became an Angel. You don’t have to be an expert to see Jackson’s great skill.
The Kramer vs. Kramer people were very willing to be accommodating to Jackson's Charlie’s Angels schedule. And Kate was willing to fly to NYC on weekends to do the movie and work on CA during the week! There were negotiations and just when things seemed to work out Spelling/Goldberg made it impossible. Goldberg is on record saying they didn't know at the time what a wonderful part it was. I see…. Looks like if they had known they would have let Kate do the movie. It was a big mistake for them to prevent their star from doing that movie. The End of Charlie’s Angels. You are right R48!
|by Anonymous||reply 80||04/15/2021|
Kate Jackson made a big splash in Dark Shadows circa '70-'71. It makes sense that Spelling-Goldberg—which wanted to become a major drama-series production house like QM—would sign her to a long-term deal starting in '72.
It also makes sense that Kate would be pissed off that she helped give Spelling-Goldberg two big hit dramas in six years and they couldn't work around her schedule for a few weeks to do one movie role.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||04/15/2021|
Tiff was the one who held the team together to solve the case when Kris and Kelly were acting like two heartbroken teenage twats sparring over fucking Patrick Duffy! Maybe 5 should have been Tiffany with two new additions.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||04/15/2021|
Shelley Hack would have made sense as a Jaclyn Smith replacement. They should have got a character type replacement for Kate - maybe a spunky teen in the Kristy McNichol mold.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||04/15/2021|
Shelley gets too much blame and Kate gets too much credit for Charlie's Angels' downfall.
It all had to do with competition. CA was a smash hit in its first three seasons on Wednesdays at 9 because CBS and NBC had nothing to put against it. In season 4, NBC slotted Diff'rent Strokes against CA, which took the kiddie audience and knocked CA down to #20. Not that bad, considering.
But when Tanya Roberts joined, ABC moved CA to Sundays at 8 against Archie Bunker and CHiPS, and the ratings dropped into the bottom 10. If it had stayed on Wednesday at 9, it would have led into Dynasty and been fine. But a new programming regime wanted the old one's shows off the schedule.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||04/15/2021|
R80 All Kate would do is chew gum and do a stereotype Brooklyn accent
|by Anonymous||reply 85||04/15/2021|
R85 LMAO! Why don't you try to watch ALL of Kate's episodes instead of just "Counterfeit Angels".
|by Anonymous||reply 86||04/15/2021|
R86 She aslo does it in Angels Ahoy
|by Anonymous||reply 87||04/15/2021|
R87 Yes, you're right. She did IT twice out of 69 episodes OMG!
|by Anonymous||reply 88||04/15/2021|
R88 Within episodes of each other. Not a good thing for such a talented, creative, highly trained actress
|by Anonymous||reply 89||04/15/2021|
R89 I tell you what. Watch all of Kate's 69 episodes, try to pay attention not just to the obvious but to the nuances of her acting, be open, then let's discuss.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||04/15/2021|
R90 I'm just kidding with you. I love Kate and Sabrina's my favorite. Still pissed Covid cancelled the Chiller Theatre show she was going to be at last April. Really wanted to meet her. Was going to get multiple things signed.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||04/15/2021|
R91 Hahaha okay! Yeah, too bad the Chiller Theatre show had to be cancelled because of Covid! Such a pity. Otherwise you would have met Kate!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 92||04/15/2021|
IMO, Kate Jackson's acting talent was somewhere in the middle. I do think she could have played that role in Kramer vs. Kramer (played by Meryl Streep).
|by Anonymous||reply 93||04/15/2021|
Only on the DL are people still wondering "what if?" about Kate Jackson not being allowed to do KRAMER VS. KRAMER. I love you old queens.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||04/15/2021|
Is Kate really mentally ill? I see updated info on Cheryl, Jaclyn, and Shelly. Kate was a HUGe part of that era.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||04/15/2021|
Well, if she is, she doesn't bother the public.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||04/15/2021|
I’m thinking about sponsoring an annual Shelley Hack fan meeting and inviting Ms. Hack herself.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||04/15/2021|
I never see Kate Jackson’s adopted son, Charles. She adopted him in 1995.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||04/15/2021|
R98 he’s probably dead.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||04/15/2021|
There’s an actress that’s here today
And they call her…SHELLEY
A different actress that thinks your way
And they call her… SHELLEY
Kinda young, kinda now… SHELLEY
Kinda free, kinda [bold]WOW[/bold]… SHELLEY
Kinda actress that ‘s gonna stay
And she’s here now…SHELLEY
THATS why, BITCHES.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||04/15/2021|
Farrah's fake ass smile as she stands next to Hack.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||04/15/2021|
Shelley, also known as Untalented.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||04/15/2021|
r101 Farrah must have been DYING every time she had to go back to Charlies Angels. I don't think that has ever happened before on a series, literally forcing Garrah back to ACT.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||04/15/2021|
[quote]R83 Shelley Hack would have made sense as a Jaclyn Smith replacement. They should have got a character type replacement for Kate - maybe a spunky teen in the Kristy McNichol mold.
Didn’t they actually shoot some tests of McNichol when Sada Thompson had to “drop out” as a replacement angel? (Now the whole world knows she was fired)
Supposedly that caused a real breach between the two actresses.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||04/15/2021|
r101. Had to be really awkward for Farrah. Shelley barely hanging on during the 4th season, Farrah coming back with no longer any buzz about her, Jaclyn wanting the whole thing over. They only good thing was Cheryl Ladd.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||04/15/2021|
Cheryl Ladd is never a good thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||04/15/2021|
You would have thought that Spelling/Goldberg would've learned after the Hack debacle that another conventionally 'pretty' Angel wasn't what the public wanted, they wanted a 'smart', 'sensible' Angel like Kate, which is why Sada Thompson would have been perfect. Sada's Angel Lorraine would've taken the show in a different direction and she would have brought over her fan base from Family, a completely different demographic. I know Sada's on record as saying she didn't like the costuming (jeans, twin sets and pumps) and didn't realize she would have to run so much, but the reality is it came down to Spelling/Goldberg not wanting to take a chance. As they found out quickly: it blew up in their face.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||04/15/2021|
Cheryl was so old looking by Season 4.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||04/15/2021|
Margo should have been the final Angel, not Julie.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||04/15/2021|
r108 I noticed that about Cheryl also. It's like by the 4th season, she aged 10 years. She looks better now I think. I don't know what happened to her. Compare Season 2 into as Kris Munroe to Season 5. Cheryl just started to look tired. She really was working her 15 minutes, like 6 posters, 2 albums, ABC specials, guesting on every variety show to showcase her singing. Maybe she was just worn out?
|by Anonymous||reply 110||04/15/2021|
R110 There was quite a few photos at Studio 54 in 78 -79. Bitch was partying hard!
|by Anonymous||reply 111||04/15/2021|
Cheryl really had the BEST career - Broadway, albums, 2 series after CA, She still working today. As a replacement angel, she has really been able to make her way..
|by Anonymous||reply 112||04/16/2021|
R108 is exaggerating.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||04/16/2021|
R107 is an amoeba. Shelley Hack’s Tiffany Welles character was smart and pretty.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||04/16/2021|
Shelley revolutionized the way angels were seen within the industry... indeed, across America!
No longer did “the smart one” have to look like a scarecrow dyke... now she could look like a top model!
|by Anonymous||reply 115||04/16/2021|
Just the way that Kelly looks at Tiff
|by Anonymous||reply 116||04/16/2021|
Did Shelley ever meet the infamous Bootsie Gumdrops?
|by Anonymous||reply 117||04/17/2021|
Bootie shit drops
|by Anonymous||reply 118||04/17/2021|
It was because of her huge range of expression as an actress. She could truly do it all, from Ophelia to Gertrude, from Phédre to Rostand's L'Aiglon.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||04/17/2021|
I hated that the show never referenced the Angels that left the series. Even Jill was only referenced when she was making a required appearance. Like all of a sudden, POOf - Tiffany went back to Boston, no explanation at all!
|by Anonymous||reply 120||04/17/2021|
I would’ve liked to have seen what Tiffany would do in this situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||04/17/2021|
Shelley really revolutionized acting for the camera, across the boards. There’s nothing that gal couldn’t do.
The truth is Jaclyn and Cheryl threatened to walk if Hack wasn’t dropped. She was showing them both up with the smallest move of her little finger.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||04/17/2021|
[quote] I hated that the show never referenced the Angels that left the series.
“You’re no Sabrina Duncan.”
|by Anonymous||reply 123||04/17/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 124||04/18/2021|
Cozi has been running her season the past few weeks, and she was quite good and likeable. She was often paired with Bosley, but so was Sabrina in the first few seasons. TPTB should have kept her for the final season (but not filmed in Hawaii).
|by Anonymous||reply 125||04/18/2021|
I wonder if the next remake of Charlie's Angels will go dark. Kelly won't just do heroin once, she'll be a crackhead. Sabrina will be a thief who robs gay men while disguised as one. But one day she murders a trick and she has to decide between serving time or serving Charlie. Jill, of course, will have anal cancer.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||04/18/2021|
[quote] If I was Aaron I would have made Kate suffer and fulfill her contract of 5 years.
Similarly I would have had lots of interaction between Jill and the other Angels in all of Farrah’s guest episodes. Farrah must have had it in her contract that for S4 she’d have as little screen time with the other actresses as possible. Instead they paired her up with a male guest star (eg Timothy Dalton) for almost the entire episode which was always a major bore.
I think the only time she and Shelley were in the same frame involved Tiff pouring her a glass of champagne and Jill saying ‘thank you’.
Farrah’s last episode involved Jill being kidnapped, and she shared a tiny scene with Cheryl Ladd when she’s rescued. Her very last scene was with David Doyle without any of the other Angels.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||04/18/2021|
[quote]r127 Farrah must have had it in her contract that for S4 she’d have as little screen time with the other actresses as possible.
Maybe her scenes were shot at midnight on an empty, locked set... like they did to the fallen Suzanne?
|by Anonymous||reply 128||04/18/2021|
R121 Tiffany would NOT have stood for Big Angie calling her names like Chicken. Kris turned to jello around her.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||04/18/2021|
Kris was fun size to big ‘ol lesbians.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||04/18/2021|
Tiffany epitomized the Pillow Princess.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||04/18/2021|
Shelley was exquisite, but by the time she came along the cast was poisoned - every cast mate had scrapes with the law, drugs, and satanism. It’s like she was Cousin Oliver and Mike Brady was sucking off Tiger.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||04/18/2021|
[quote]R132 Shelley was exquisite
So true. She made that Jackson cunt look like dog meat.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||04/18/2021|
I'm not saying Bette Midler is a whore or the band Chicago is a whore, but Shelley Hack might very well be a whore.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||04/18/2021|
“We laced Shelley Duvall’s Tang with psilocybin. She won’t tell the difference!”
|by Anonymous||reply 135||04/18/2021|
Shelley was beautiful, but something was missing. Just no chemistry. I don't think the writers can craft that
|by Anonymous||reply 136||04/18/2021|
R136, perhaps it’s that glass eye of yours that missed the talent that was and is Shelly Hack. Hmn? Have another, Dear, while you think about it. Yeah. It’s ok.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||04/18/2021|
r137. Um, I never said she didn't have talent. She was later cast in 3 other network series's. It's just that Shelley didn't have that spark of chemistry with her co-stars. im sure that's why she was also fired from Night Court. Jaclyn wasn't a great actress, but she just gave off good energy with the other girls.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||04/18/2021|
Shelley’s Tiffany was intelligent, pretty and witty. The whole East Coast vibe was very appealing. She looked fab in all of the Nolan Miller fashions. Sure, her hair looked like straw during the first half of her season but I found her a big step up from Kate Jackson.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||04/18/2021|
Who will EVER forget that Shelley hack wrote, choreographed, danced, AND sang the penultimate number in “Flashdance”????? Oscar snubbed Shelley and that’s when I KNEW it was simply a popularity contest!
|by Anonymous||reply 140||04/18/2021|
I thought Shelley and Cheryl clicked on screen. Jaclyn was up her own butt at that point.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||04/18/2021|
At R101, Farrah's smile does look super fake. Her hair also looks super dry and in need of a deep conditioning. Perhaps a VO5 hot oil treatment.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||04/18/2021|
Shelley and Farrah had dry assed hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||04/18/2021|
Season 4 - a year of bad hair.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||04/18/2021|
Surprise the "Kate Jackson troll" has not overtaken this now that it's precious thread has closed.
It just knows everything about EVERYTHING!
|by Anonymous||reply 145||04/18/2021|
The poor man’s Cybill Shepherd
|by Anonymous||reply 146||04/18/2021|
[quote]R138 I never said she didn't have talent... It's just that Shelley didn't have that spark of chemistry
|by Anonymous||reply 147||04/18/2021|
That's an awkward pose - unusual for Shelley.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||04/18/2021|
Shelley couldn't at least rise to the level of Billie?
|by Anonymous||reply 149||04/18/2021|
She had a big dick.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||04/18/2021|
Wow, R147! Didn't her mother ever tell her to never sit like that?
|by Anonymous||reply 151||04/18/2021|
Huge Kate fan. She was the only real true actress in the bunch.
That said, I adored Shelley as Tiffany. She fit in like a glove. I call that season 'Dynasty Angels'
But they shot themselves in the foot by not giving her enough to do.
I would have done season three of Angels (whenever Kate wanted out to do Kramer vs. Kramer) that Sabrina gets kidnapped and a series of rotating angles come in to help Kelly and Kris find her -- include Jill in the rotation -- and then Kate comes back after filming Kramer. They find her and she agrees to stay on another year or whatever.
Shameful they never resolved who Kelly's birth family was. Who Sabrina married. Why Tiffany decided to 'spend time back east' and why the most street Angel of all -- Julie -- wasn't a cop like the others.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||04/18/2021|
Kelly found her family because she asked the toy maker for a set of dolls for her niece. She must have lost them again by the end of Season 4
|by Anonymous||reply 153||04/19/2021|
I named my shelter kitten Bootsie Gumdrops after my niece.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||04/19/2021|
[quote]R151 Wow, [R147]! Didn't her mother ever tell her to never sit like that?
She’s certainly quite flexible!
Seriously, though... Hack is the only one of the angels to work with a real director of the highest caliber; Martin Scorsese.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||04/19/2021|
M roles that the Angels would’ve been good in:
Kramer vs Kramer - Kate
Manhattan - Shelley
She-Devil - Jaclyn
Mamma Mia - Cheryl
Marvin’s Room - Farrah
Ricki & The Flash - Tanya
|by Anonymous||reply 156||04/19/2021|
^^ Our Shelley turned down all those roles.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||04/19/2021|
Please note, she wears a curly wig, there’s the Shelley Magic! She also sings.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||04/19/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 159||04/19/2021|
In all honesty, Shelley Hack’s Tiffany Welles was my favorite Angel. Kelly Garrett (Jaclyn Smith) was a close 2nd.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||04/19/2021|
^ I wouldn’t mind a three way with male Kate/male Tanya!
|by Anonymous||reply 161||04/19/2021|
Big Aggie turned her life around and suddenly wanted to work for Charlie as a replacement for Tiffany! She’d use her naturally nosy behavior as a perk for the PI agency. She’d be an asset whenever there was dangerous criminal confrontations since she’s so motherfucking huge. She’d have to have her chicken - Kris and she’d make Kelly her bitch.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||04/19/2021|
Sabrina would never be Big Aggie's bitch. Big Aggie wouldn't even fit in the pinto!
|by Anonymous||reply 163||04/19/2021|
And I thought the Kate Jackson troll was persistent.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||04/19/2021|
Sabrina wouldn’t have a choice. If Big Aggie wanted her scarecrow pussy, she’d have it.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||04/19/2021|
What if Margo was an Angel?
|by Anonymous||reply 166||04/19/2021|
I have always wondered why they never did a reunion special show? I mean, there were 6 damn Angels, I'm sure they could've gotten 3 to be on board. Most of them were doing awful TV movies anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||04/19/2021|
Margo, Big Aggie, and Beamish are the anti angels. What cars did they drive?
|by Anonymous||reply 168||04/19/2021|
Big Aggie drove a Ford cargo van.
Margo drove a navy blue Ford Crown Victoria or Lincoln Town Car like her alias, Paul Factor did.
Beamish didn’t possess a valid driver’s license and relied exclusively on public transit.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||04/19/2021|
Zora walked everywhere since she lived on the Springtime campus.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||04/19/2021|
I can smell Donna Pescow being used by one of you idiots and the answer is “NO, she canNOT be an angel!” Get help.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||04/19/2021|
DL icon Shelley on stage with Annette O’Toole and Meredith Baxter-Muffdiver.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||04/19/2021|
They can stick Beamish’s head out of the sunroof of the Pinto.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||04/19/2021|
You worthless cunts. Trying to assemble a CA’s rogues gallery and leaving ME out? Why don’t you kill yourselves?
|by Anonymous||reply 174||04/19/2021|
R169 and R174... well done, you two had me cracking up big time! ....
|by Anonymous||reply 175||04/19/2021|
I'd love to see a Charlies Angels re-boot with Kris, Kelly and Tiffany welcoming the new girls to the Townsend Detective Agency.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||04/19/2021|
Give us a Shelley Hack Doll!
|by Anonymous||reply 177||04/19/2021|
There was a reunion. It's on Youtube. It's part of a documentary on the show. Farah, Jaclyn, and Kate are shown together on a sofa. It's late 90s / early 00s.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||04/19/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 179||04/19/2021|
R179. Man, Farrah looked awful - WTF? This was before the anal cancer. I think she had a drug / alcohol problem
|by Anonymous||reply 180||04/19/2021|
She also got bad plastic surgery.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||04/19/2021|
Actually, Farrah had a really pleasant speaking voice at R179. No, she did not age that well, looks-wise. She got an eye lift that changed her entire face.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||04/19/2021|
Farrah looked decent at the Shatner roast.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||04/19/2021|
RuPaul’s Drag Race needs to do a Charlie’s Angels challenge.
|by Anonymous||reply 184||04/19/2021|
R184 let’s pray they don’t. Not a drag fan.
|by Anonymous||reply 185||04/20/2021|
With Kate not viable the only angel combo left is the S4 squad. They could do a reunion movie Angels in Autumn. At the behest of Charlie's nephew who mails out their pension checks, the angels go undercover one last time at the senior center where Bosley (now played by Ed Asner) fears for his life. As they investigate to solve the series of rough-eldersex-gone-wrong murders at the Palm Springs facility, Kris gets a job teaching the exercise class, Kelly checks in as a freewheeling new (and single) resident from the south looking for a man, and Tiff pretends to be a reporter from Active Seniors magazine.
Guest stars include June Lockhart as the facility librarian who catches Kelly going through file folders. Kelly gives her a S5-style random beatdown. Harry Belafonte plays the resident stud (singing a crappy Ed Lakso song) who comes on to Tiffany, William Shatner as the murderous villain with a criminal past who's actually in hiding under another name at the facility, who thinks Kelly looks good. Robert Wagner is the red herring suspect. The victims are played by Tippi Hedren and Eva Marie Saint.
After the Angels burst in just in the nick of time to stop a drugged Kelly from becoming the next victim, the episode culminates in a Hoveround chase down the hallway of the facility where Kris leaps on the perp from behind. As he keeps bumping it against the walls trying to throw her off, suddenly the hoveround catches fire. As the sex killer pulls a gun and starts to try to get away on foot, Tiff pulls her gun and screams "Drop it!" A still dopey Kelly has inched her way down the hall toward them. Kris, barely fazed by the fact that she was nearly burned alive, says, "You OK, Kelly?" and Kelly says "Yes. Nothing like that has happened to me for a long time." And you can tell she's not OK. Angel chime, commercial.
For the button scene, the gals (looking fabulous) have lunch at an outdoor cafe handily located across the street from the old, now closed, Townsend Office and they look at the door and offer brief reminiscence. Kris says one line about her sister Jill. Kelly says one line about her friend Sabrina. Tiff asks what happened to the girl that came after her...was her name Julie?
They agree to meet up once a year until there's only one angel left.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||04/20/2021|
Ignored r186. What a rant!
|by Anonymous||reply 187||04/20/2021|
[R186] 0/10 Kelly didn't get shot and you never mentioned if they are still being forced to drive the same three cars.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||04/20/2021|
R186, somehow Margo MUST feature in to the story to make it relevant and topical.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||04/20/2021|
Who was the bitchiest angel in the series?
|by Anonymous||reply 190||04/20/2021|
Well, off screen it was definitely Kate!
|by Anonymous||reply 191||04/20/2021|
R191 = Cheryl Ladd
|by Anonymous||reply 192||04/20/2021|
They need to end the Charlie's Angles saga with the revelation that Kelly Garrett was a hardcore drug addict this entire time and the whole show and movies were her drug induced fantasies.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||04/20/2021|
That would explain the "top modelling school" shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||04/21/2021|
I want a heroin Kelly action figure!
|by Anonymous||reply 195||04/21/2021|
[quote] That said, I adored Shelley as Tiffany. She fit in like a glove. I call that season 'Dynasty Angels' But they shot themselves in the foot by not giving her enough to do.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||04/21/2021|
Tiffany Welles is like a dream. I liked Shelley’s personality and thought Tiffany was a fantastic addition. I do not understand those who hated her character.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||04/21/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 198||04/21/2021|
[quote]R197 I do not understand those who hated her character.
As has been noted, the cowed Ladd and Smith conspired to sink Hack’s meteoric rise on the show, and in Hollywood. They just couldn’t take the heat.
This was especially unfair as Hack had turned down an offer to singlehandedly overhaul the National Aeronautics and Space Administration in order to do the show.
But cunts will be CUNTS!
|by Anonymous||reply 199||04/21/2021|
I want to delouse Tiffany!
|by Anonymous||reply 200||04/21/2021|
I saw Cheryl Ladd today...and she was SMOKING!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 201||04/23/2021|
“It would be better with Shelley HACK Rose!”
Once again, Dorothy was right.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||04/23/2021|
Why did Shelley turn her back on 'the business'? She had the world on a string, she was the face of THE biggest ad campaign of the 20th century, she was the muse of Woody Allen and then Martin Scorsese and was a global phenomenon. Why did she walk away?
|by Anonymous||reply 203||04/23/2021|
Shelley blew it by being mean to everybody on the set.
Apparently she came in nice at first but quickly changed.
The interviews are on you tube.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||04/23/2021|
^Whereas Cheryl Ladd blew everyone on the set.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||04/23/2021|
Tiffany and Kelly are prostitutes this afternoon with Rose.
|by Anonymous||reply 206||04/24/2021|
Tiffany and Kelly charge $1000
|by Anonymous||reply 207||04/24/2021|
Fucking Tiffany would be like fucking an ironing board.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||04/25/2021|
for you, r208
|by Anonymous||reply 209||04/25/2021|
Didn't Spelling fire Shelley Hack on Valentines Day? I think the other cast members got a Valentine invite for Season 5 and Shelley didn't.. Also, I believe that the last 2 episodes were filmed after Shelley knew she was being fired. It must have been tense on that set..Did Jaclyn and Cheryl not have any say in the decision?
|by Anonymous||reply 210||04/25/2021|
Cheryl: Jackie, we’ve got to save Shelley from getting canned!!!
Jaclyn: it’s too late, Cheryl. We can’t help her now.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||04/25/2021|
Shelley is the MTA (model turned actress) Venn diagram where wooden acting ability, looks, and repeated opportunity intersect.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||04/25/2021|
She's no Joan Severance.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||04/25/2021|
R210 Yes, he did. Yes, they did.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||04/25/2021|
R214 I hate how Spelling did that shit to his best Angel.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||04/25/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 216||04/25/2021|
I heard she was into feces facials
|by Anonymous||reply 217||04/25/2021|
[italic]Leave Tiffany alone!
|by Anonymous||reply 218||04/25/2021|
Margo reminds me of the fabulous and hilarious Marion Crane from Guiding Light which Passions ripped off (and they did it quite well I might add) with the character Vincent Clarkson/Valerie Davis.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||04/26/2021|
Traitors! R211 You could have saved Shelley! But you didn't. Because: "The truth is Jaclyn and Cheryl threatened to walk if Hack wasn’t dropped" R122
|by Anonymous||reply 220||04/26/2021|
It’s very well known. There was a full on Hack-Erasure attempt orchestrated by Ladd, Smith, and the bitter departed Jackson.
I believe the stature of limitations has past in whom to speak justice, howsoever.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||04/26/2021|
Justice for our peacekeeper!
|by Anonymous||reply 222||04/26/2021|
Did Miss Cheryl Ladd ever comment on the death of Tanya Roberts with whom she reconnected in recent years?
|by Anonymous||reply 223||04/27/2021|
R223 She finally did on January 10th on her Instagram.
|by Anonymous||reply 224||04/27/2021|
Tiff is a former sorority girl
|by Anonymous||reply 225||05/01/2021|
Capps Omega Si
|by Anonymous||reply 226||05/01/2021|
I miss the Shelley Hack troll.
That was one troll who had an uncanny ability to judge the perfect moment to insert
Into a conversation.
|by Anonymous||reply 227||05/01/2021|
What am I??
|by Anonymous||reply 228||05/01/2021|
I knew Shelly Hack troll and YOU are no Shelly Hack troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||05/01/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 230||05/01/2021|
Why didn’t someone give her hair a hot oil treatment
|by Anonymous||reply 231||05/01/2021|
They did during the 2nd half of her season
|by Anonymous||reply 232||05/01/2021|
R227 YES! So much better and funnier than the Kate Jackson troll!
|by Anonymous||reply 233||05/01/2021|
Troll this - 💩
|by Anonymous||reply 234||05/02/2021|
Shelley Hack doll showing her titties!
|by Anonymous||reply 235||05/02/2021|
OMG! I want a Shelley Hack Barbie, r235!!!!! Thx for positing that!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 236||05/03/2021|
R35 whoever posted those dolls is a Hack herself. she just found Barbies that maybe sort of looked like the Angels, without doing any repaint herself. the Hack doll is just Grace Kelly with her hair blownout.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||05/03/2021|
R235 sorry that was for you... whoever posted those dolls is a Hack herself. she just found Barbies that maybe sort of looked like the Angels, without doing any repaint herself. the Hack doll is just Grace Kelly with her hair blownout. R237
|by Anonymous||reply 238||05/03/2021|
Shelley wishes she had titties that big.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||05/03/2021|
^^Don't worry, Cheryl has her tits out as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||05/03/2021|
I wonder why none of the Angels have written a book? Id love to hear the behind the scenes scoop on the show and the process of selecting the new girls. Six actress's and none have written a biography?
|by Anonymous||reply 241||Last Friday at 5:51 PM|
Kate was supposedly working on one since 2010 called "The Smart One" but it was pushed back numerous times. I suspect it will never get released.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||Last Friday at 6:18 PM|
R252. An 11 year delay? Kate needs to get it together..
|by Anonymous||reply 243||Last Friday at 7:13 PM|
The answer to OP's question: Shelley Hack is not popular. A lot of posts in this thread are about other people. Hack was a good model. But other than that. No.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||Last Saturday at 2:42 AM|
I really haven't heard any negative comments from Shelley Hack about her time on Charlies Angels. She always has kept it pretty classy..
|by Anonymous||reply 245||Last Sunday at 7:49 AM|
No hard feelings. A gig is a gig!
|by Anonymous||reply 246||Last Sunday at 7:59 AM|