This is supposed to be a gay-theme music video—basically they’re cruising each other, right?
There are subtitles. They mention a girl. I’m confused.
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This is supposed to be a gay-theme music video—basically they’re cruising each other, right?
There are subtitles. They mention a girl. I’m confused.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||August 3, 2021 4:56 PM|
[quote] Pretty Gay K-pop Music Video
What's pretty gay? It sounds like you are perpetuating a stereotype. Or are you going to make inflammatory remarks about Koreans?
|by Anonymous||reply 1||April 12, 2021 2:44 AM|
It seems like they’re hot for each other. That one guy is a pretty good rapper.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||April 12, 2021 2:47 AM|
No snark intended, seriously, but could you find your son in that group shot? They look like octuplets (or however many there are).
|by Anonymous||reply 3||April 12, 2021 2:51 AM|
It’s a love song and they keep exchanging longing glances with each other. It’s gay as hell.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||April 12, 2021 2:52 AM|
Plastic surgeried ladybois doing group aerobics to forgettable pop ditties. Every song.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||April 12, 2021 2:57 AM|
r4 either you're young and ignorant or old and desperate
|by Anonymous||reply 6||April 12, 2021 2:59 AM|
Anyone older than 14 or so can see they’re cruising each other. Except for the two guys with the drone, who seem to be stalking that third guy.
It’s not bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||April 12, 2021 3:03 AM|
Ha OP you called that gay?! You haven’t seen nothing yet….
|by Anonymous||reply 8||April 12, 2021 3:08 AM|
R8, you’re right. But those guys seem older and more mature.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||April 12, 2021 3:12 AM|
Cute. It was so much fun to be young and pretty and cruising for sex and love.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||April 12, 2021 3:16 AM|
0:40 is how I realized I’m gay: I was at my friend’s place and this other friend of his from church came and I just froze, stunned, when he walked through the door. I couldn’t get over his beauty.
That was a rough weekend. Lots of panic and angst. All kept inside.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||April 12, 2021 3:51 AM|
They dance very well.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||April 12, 2021 5:02 AM|
It's kpop. The straight fangirls like the implied homosexuality (provided it's not real homosexuality).
|by Anonymous||reply 13||April 12, 2021 5:08 AM|
yes they really don't want to think about fudge packing.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||April 12, 2021 6:13 AM|
Has Exo ever released something that gay, to tease female fans?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||April 12, 2021 1:52 PM|
The younger groups, K-pop 4th generation groups, are the most gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||April 12, 2021 4:08 PM|
They all get radical beautifying plastic surgery. Do they transform their junk, too?
|by Anonymous||reply 17||April 12, 2021 4:35 PM|
R17, unless they're extraordinarily talented (which is rare), they're chosen for their looks, so usually there's been no surgery. Styling (hair, brows), and makeup are really important, too.
It's a thing for companies to release their childhood photos from babyhood on including yearbook photos, either directly or through fan clubs, so they prove they've had no surgery.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||April 12, 2021 4:42 PM|
DLers, as gay as they are, aren't usually familiar with the power of makeup and styling to transform a face.
Even the eldergays here would get a lot more sex if they bothered to learn how to style themselves and skillfully use makeup, or pay professionals to do their hair and makeup.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||April 12, 2021 4:46 PM|
If you say so buddy
|by Anonymous||reply 20||April 12, 2021 4:53 PM|
This is about the quarantine. "We Lost the Summer" from TXT, the second group from BTS's company, Hybe.
It's helped many Gen-Z girls cope.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||April 12, 2021 6:57 PM|
Very impressive dancing at R12 -- but amazing how Westernized the rest of the world has become. Miss Universe was fun for its diverse beauty but now they all look like Cher whether from India or Botwana or Spain.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||April 12, 2021 7:29 PM|
R22, the culture is very different. The music and costumes might sound and look Western (usually—see link for a not atypical counterexample), but the guys are very East Asian in values (e.g., extreme personal sacrifice for their "teams" (groups), younger members' generally unquestioning obedience to older members), and behavior (e.g., polished politeness at all times, strong same-sex affection). That's something that makes the genre interesting.
Also there's much greater tolerance for "flower boy" beauty (the video is also pretty typical of that). The term came from Korea originally.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||April 12, 2021 8:05 PM|
The shoot videos with robot arms handling the cameras. Why doesn’t that surprise me?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||April 12, 2021 9:29 PM|
New TinyTan out today!
|by Anonymous||reply 25||April 13, 2021 3:06 PM|
R10, you got to experience that? Lucky bastard.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||April 13, 2021 3:15 PM|
I doubt if they do their own singing. It's the look and the dancing that are important.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||April 14, 2021 12:42 AM|
Somewhere, a middle-aged Gackt sits back in his office chair, clicks a pen, and laughs derisively.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||April 14, 2021 12:53 AM|
One of the ‘boyz’ (I don’t their names and can’t tell most of them apart) looks quite a lot like Ruito Aoyagi. Which is weird, cuz i didn’t think Rui had any Korean in him.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||April 14, 2021 1:00 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 30||April 14, 2021 2:59 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 31||April 14, 2021 3:11 AM|
Jacob is hot
|by Anonymous||reply 32||April 14, 2021 3:53 AM|
When I see threads like this I wonder how many DLers are required by law to register with local law enforcement...Drooling over guys who look like junior high school boys is kinda sick...
|by Anonymous||reply 33||April 14, 2021 4:08 AM|
Some fans joke that Jacob has a sweet boyfriend.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||April 14, 2021 4:09 AM|
The most famous 4th generation ‘ship. Stray Kids members.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||April 14, 2021 4:20 AM|
The Boyz are on a guy group competition show show that started two weeks ago. There are subs and it's pretty good.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||April 14, 2021 7:35 PM|
Great. Now I’m sad thinking about SHINee again. Thanks a fucking bunch, OP.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||April 14, 2021 11:53 PM|
R37 let this heal you. Soobin heals everything.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||April 15, 2021 1:07 AM|
Here’s some G Dragon and T.O.P homoerotically fighting over a girl
|by Anonymous||reply 39||April 15, 2021 2:52 AM|
From Stray Kids just now. Amazing.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||April 15, 2021 1:42 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 41||April 15, 2021 2:17 PM|
This guy is like 40 years old and very handsome. No sex crimes here!
|by Anonymous||reply 42||April 15, 2021 2:42 PM|
What's the name of that really unattractive non-Korean chick with the tattoos and butch hair? The one who once was a member of a group and whose interviews are all about how the music sucks and the industry is evil?
|by Anonymous||reply 43||April 15, 2021 3:37 PM|
Amber? She’s non Korean and butch she was in F(x). She’s the butchest person who was ever in Kpop.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||April 15, 2021 10:17 PM|
R37, watch this at 9:25. It's recent. Sweet and sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||April 15, 2021 10:56 PM|
Episode 3 with subtitles. It's great.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||April 16, 2021 2:08 PM|
R44, yes, that's her. I can't look at her. So odd. She's worth $8 million though.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||April 16, 2021 2:28 PM|
thug pop sounds a lot like Korean to me.............
|by Anonymous||reply 48||April 16, 2021 2:31 PM|
The couples at R34 and R35 are insanely cute.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||April 16, 2021 2:35 PM|
R47 who doesn’t like Amber Liu? I really don’t get that. She’s one of the only unique and interesting and self-possessed people to come out of the K-Pop scene. The rest all look and act like clones, but there’s no-one else even a little bit like Amber. Probably helps that she’s Taiwanese raised in America, but let’s not talk about that...
For that matter, f(x) as a whole were essentially the 5% worthwhile quotient in a scene otherwise mostly filled with forgettable robotic unartistic dreck. On a day I’m feeling generous and upbeat, I might also add Hyuna, G-DRAGON, SHINee (already mentioned upthread), and the short-lived AFTERSCHOOL to that list. Apart from that, it’s been predictably terrible music.
If you haven’t had exposure to K-pop yet but want to get into Asian contemporary music, spare yourself and listen to 90s-2000s J-pop/rock, Taiwanese fusion, or even Chinese neoclassical instead.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||April 16, 2021 3:23 PM|
[quote] [R47] who doesn’t like Amber Liu? I really don’t get that.
R50, I like the machine and its vapid, inauthentic, or whatever-perjoritives-you-want-to-call-it output, and I really don't like Amber's constant harping about the industry. She's free to do it, but I'm just answering the question I'm inferring from the quote above (not just "Who doesn't like her" but in turn, impliedly given "I really don't get that", "Why?").
If she wants to be a "real" artist—gritty, authentic, etc., so be it, but I think she should take her millions, stay in LA (where she is now), and do her own thing there without riding on the "I was in K-pop and I know all about it, Westerners, and it's terrible - here's the dish" train (e.g., her extensive interviews in the new YouTube Original documentary seres on K-pop). It's her life, and she's free to do what she wants, but it's so Uncle Tom-esque: It's like that fat chick goth Asian vlogger Sherliza who searches for offensive stuff on Asian TV to run to YouTube and post it and feverishly tell Westerners how terrible Asia is, make them gasp, and get attention and money that way. She also does Amber's K-pop spiel but has no background in the industry, unlike Amber. It's like, with the latter fat chick, just shut the fuck up and stop running to foreigners to rag on something you have no relation to.
That's just my take. No anger towards you or anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||April 16, 2021 3:34 PM|
One of Amber’s dearest closest friends and bandmates, essentially a little sister to her, committed suicide young due to industry pressure and bullying.
If my little sister or my best friend took her life over something like that, I’d want the world to know and be warned, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||April 16, 2021 4:08 PM|
I like K-pop because it's a perfect combination of:
- synthesized/cultivated very cute idols with nicely crafted outward personas (polite, humble, cheerful) who work hard and sacrifice for their groups ("teams") and show obedience to their elders in the group and their companies
- extremely catchy music, colorful concepts for each new album ("comeback"), meticulous styling, and insanely well-crafted music videos
- very engaging media ecosphere (livestreams, music shows with voting on apps, variety shows, reality shows, survival shows, awards shows, the Idol Star Athletics Championships, dramas casting idols, fan-meets, concerts, merchandise including light-sticks, fan cafe message-boards with unique access to the idols, direct daily YouTube content, 3rd party YouTube content (e.g., fan-cams, airport arrivals, formal greetings outside the TV studios before the music shows, etc.)
- the symbiotic relationship of fans to the idols, where the latter knows that he/she must meet fans' expectations for quality output, politeness and outward humility, professionalism, appearance, and decorum in exchange for their celebrity status and wealth
- the intimacy fans have with the companies that produce the idols and their groups; it's like being a fan of Tesla, and reading up on their new production models, concept models, launches, branding, etc.
It's all such a refined, ever-improving machine—and fans are aware that it's a machine, and that doesn't make its output, the product of sacrifice and lots of hard work, less fun/loved.
Scandals, suicides and the like are byproducts of the machine's output, and all the machine is iterating and focusing increasingly on looking after idols' well-being, with companies trying different things to make idols healthier and happier (e.g., JYP having psychologists on staff and serving healthy, organic food with an on-staff nutritionist and chef; letting idols take time off when they need to, as at an increasingly number of companies like Pledis, etc.).
The people who dismiss it, and say it's inauthentic, and say, e.g., "Japanese punk rock from 1982 is REAL music" don't get this "meta" perspective: we know what it is, and how it's made, and we're fine with it, because it's engaging and it makes us happy.
Being like Patsy and Edina/ a, sneering "In my day, we had real music: the Stones, baby — it was real and gritty: you'd wake up in a pool of your own sick dusted with heroin with Mick passed out on top of you" is tired and leaves one blind to the charms and distractions of the K-pop industry and its output.
It's like someone dismissing today's high-tech, refined luxury electric vehicles and saying "those aren't cars: you want a real car? Think the 1970 Camero, or the 1967 Mustang — those are REAL cars." It's just kind of needlessly closed-off and dismissive of the new music for what it is. It's not trying to produce classics: it's creating catchy songs that just get you through the week/month, with new stuff coming all the time. It's not haute cuisine from a tucked-away bistro in an otherwise obscure alley in Paris: it's more like ... Sweetgreen.
Disney movies are DIsney movies: we know what they are, we know they aren't high art, we know they're contrived and full of lies in their way, but they make some of us feel good when we watch them.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||April 16, 2021 4:12 PM|
Or jazz. People say the same thing about jazz being "real" when they dismiss pop music. We get it: drama, race struggled and angst, addiction, Oscar-winning biopics. It's all serious and real and authentic. We just prefer other stuff.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||April 16, 2021 4:22 PM|
I like groups' goofy-cheap holiday videos.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||April 16, 2021 4:29 PM|
[quote] Disney movies are DIsney movies: we know what they are, we know they aren't high art, we know they're contrived and full of lies in their way, but they make some of us feel good when we watch them.
Unflattering comparison. Disney movies may be enjoyable and wholesome to some, but their films propagate many dangerous and unhealthy societal messages and insidious conditioning to young children. They also co-opt folklore and art and literature without compensating original artists, then using their own employees turn it into unpalatable claptrap that glosses over anything of real value. Then there’s the way their tonnes of plastic merchandise pollute the planet, the way their parks and resorts occupy and damage residential and green land, the way their industry eats into local tourism and takes profits away from smaller creators....
|by Anonymous||reply 56||April 16, 2021 4:37 PM|
R56, I kind of (badly) included that with "we know what they are, we know they aren't high art, we know they're contrived and full of lies in their way". And of course images in K-pop make some kids feel bad about their appearances, and some or even much of it is culturally insensitive, sexist, etc. Most any popular media can be deconstructed and shown how from many angles it's harmful, exploitative, culturally problematic, etc.
We all know about the horrors of stuff like Disney, but I was trying to be honest. They're similar in some ways, and a lot of what they are isn't good. Pollution is the same in K-pop: tons of plastic merchandise and huge carbon footprints getting albums and goods shipped around the world. Lots of wasted one-time-use costumes, etc. Not so much the tourism/land use stuff, however. I personally don't like that they abuse octopuses during the "What's in the box?! OMG today it's an octopus - so gross and squishy!" games, or that they eat so much goddamn meat when it's "Yay! We're having a party with yummy food!" time in videos.
There's a lot that someone might not like. I'll make another unflattering but somewhat resonant comparison: it's like Amazon. Tons of problems that matter more to some than others, but for some it's what we like.
Again the meta point is that we "know"—we see the angles, too, and Western media with its angst and postmodern analyses make sure we do—but ultimately on balance we consume and enjoy, because it gets us through the day and makes us smile during our otherwise short, miserable lives.
And some of aren't just aren't smart or refined enough to find transcendent joy in classical music, 1920s jazz or "authentic" punk rock from, e.g., 1973 Berlin in 1973 or "authentic" pan-African hiphop 1999 Mali.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||April 16, 2021 4:53 PM|
Lots of typos in the last sentence in particular. Sorry.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||April 16, 2021 4:54 PM|
[quote] And some of aren't just aren't smart or refined enough to find transcendent joy in classical music, 1920s jazz or "authentic" punk rock from, e.g., 1973 Berlin in 1973 or "authentic" pan-African hiphop 1999 Mali.
Well, it’s a pity someone made you believe you have to be ‘smart’ and ‘refined’ to enjoy non-mainstream music & art. That’s pretty low on their part, and smacks of gatekeeping.
With more obscure cultural forms, it’s just about exposure to it and partaking of it with an open mind. Fine if you don’t like it, or it leaves you cold; not so fine if you just never try it, because you think you’re too dumb or trashy or you’re somehow culturally disallowed.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||April 16, 2021 6:58 PM|
^^^to use myself as a personal example: I’m a university dropout from a low-income hillbilly family, and I like to watch or listen to an opera every now and then. I can’t understand the lyrics unless they’re in English, I can’t claim to ‘get’ the music (I play a little folk, but I’m no great shakes a player, and can’t sight read either), and I lack the enormous breadth of historical and literary knowledge to grasp all the arty contextual references. I don’t claim to be a connoisseur and I can’t have a lengthy deep discussion about it (well, not yet), but I know a little about the form and what to expect, which is enough to basically take in a show and find something interesting or enjoyable (even if it’s just one particular aria or set or costume).
As for non-theatrical music, I will throw on some jazz or some baroque or some experimental art/prog rock every now and again, really for variety and my curiosity more than anything else. I keep my mind open, but I also don’t force myself to listen for long if it doesn’t catch my ear or my mind or my heart.
My grandmother is the type to force-feed herself classical music and the Paris Review, because she wants to tell and show people she’s intellectually cultured. I don’t play that.
You do you. I was just wondering how fans of genre like K-pop square away the ethical stormcloud surrounding the industry (and it was a comprehensive answer, so thanks). Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||April 16, 2021 7:05 PM|
I like Amber a lot too and was a fan of her group. I could never get into most k pop but I still listen to some of it. I like CL solo and wish she’d do more.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||April 16, 2021 10:54 PM|
A fun recent awards show stage from TBZ. Very high budget.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||April 17, 2021 2:16 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 63||April 17, 2021 2:24 AM|
I think CL is in the process of revamping her next solo album. I think she got some chances to work with different producers based on a few singles she had released so she pulled back its release.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||April 17, 2021 10:35 AM|
CL is with Hybe now, so I bet she has many collaboration opportunities.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||April 17, 2021 5:01 PM|
Any Stray Kids fans? They're about the biggest fourth-generation male group out there. I like that many of them are short (like me), and their visual, Lee Know, seems very sweet — he lives in a humble home near one of Seoul's airports, his family deals in furniture, he adopted three cats (he cleaned up after them, including their litter boxes), and he visits his grandma on those rare vacation days.
He has a sweet relationship with Han, also in the group. (R35)
|by Anonymous||reply 66||April 19, 2021 2:21 PM|
KPop is so hit or miss for me. I really liked Rain’s latest release “Magnetic” but hated everything else he has done.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||April 19, 2021 2:53 PM|
Jessi is pretty fun, and seems like a good person in real life. I just wish she wouldn't seemingly glorify some kinds of not-so-good things (vulgar language, overt money-hungriness, and like that American "girl power by showing your ass" thing).
|by Anonymous||reply 68||April 19, 2021 3:04 PM|
Jessi is outrageous. I think it's because she's from NY/NJ and doesn't give a fuck. Jesus.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||April 19, 2021 4:04 PM|
R29 cute Jacob.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||April 20, 2021 1:53 PM|
YG has a new group that's 1/3 Japanese and extremely popular in Japan.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||April 20, 2021 2:34 PM|
Amazing performance from self-producing top group Stray Kids from episode 3 of Kingdom.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||April 27, 2021 4:10 AM|
BTS and LV.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||April 27, 2021 4:47 AM|
I love how wholesome it can be. Cheerful, fun, and a reprieve from the miserable current state of things.
And there melody and key definitely sounds distinctly East Asian.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||April 28, 2021 2:21 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 75||April 28, 2021 2:38 AM|
Hyunjin from Stray Kids is beautiful.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||April 30, 2021 11:30 PM|
Stray Kids. They’re in their 20s. Very sweet conversation.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||May 6, 2021 11:59 PM|
I prefer Chinese pop.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||May 20, 2021 1:51 AM|
Rain dancing to “Go Crazy” by Chris Brown.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||May 20, 2021 2:22 AM|
Chinese pop lacks the immersive setup, as well as the same-sex affection and Confucian courtliness/politeness exhibited in K-pop.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||May 20, 2021 2:25 AM|
Those kids were good at r78. I’m not at all familiar with any CPop.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||May 20, 2021 2:35 AM|
R53, do you even realize you basically just wrote a cult manifesto? You really sound like a cult member.
Kpop is nothing more than the ultimate marketing machine and I find it so hard to believe that so many people willingly jump down the Kpop hole.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||May 20, 2021 4:03 AM|
R82, I thought my explanation was pretty down-to-earth and straightforward.
Have you even listened? It’s catchy. It makes cleaning one’s home, driving, laundry, and the like go faster.
There’s no special esoteric knowledge largely inaccessible to the “non-chosen”. That’s a cult. This is just catchy music and engaging media offerings accessible to anyone and essentially free, if you just want to listen and watch videos.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||May 20, 2021 4:23 AM|
S. Korea and Taiwan preserve the mannered and courtly threads of Confucianism long ago overrun in Japan by militarism, and somewhat lost in China to Marxism.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||May 20, 2021 4:30 AM|
Some fun girls watching r84.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||May 20, 2021 4:33 AM|
SKZ sleeping at 10:00. 🥺🥰
|by Anonymous||reply 86||May 20, 2021 5:07 AM|
I find Chinese male celebrities to be more attractive. They look more natural and are more masculine.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||May 20, 2021 5:37 AM|
There’s concern in China about K-pop being a threat to traditional masculinity.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||May 20, 2021 5:51 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 89||May 20, 2021 5:51 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 90||May 20, 2021 5:52 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 91||May 20, 2021 2:46 PM|
They will fail. Nobody can stop the influence of pop music.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||May 20, 2021 3:50 PM|
That’s cute r85.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||May 20, 2021 3:52 PM|
Can anyone tell those lab created robots apart. It is like ken dolls with no testicles came to life.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||May 20, 2021 4:08 PM|
Kingdom episode 8 just out an hour ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||May 20, 2021 5:32 PM|
Just out. I like BTS, but this isn’t doing it for me.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||May 21, 2021 4:21 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 97||May 22, 2021 4:41 AM|
Editor's Note: Rani Neutill is a professor of creative writing and Asian American literature at Emerson College and Harvard University.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||May 22, 2021 4:11 PM|
R98 take your fangurling about those ladyboys somewhere else.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||May 22, 2021 4:24 PM|
Wang Yibo, who is a Chinese actor, also sings.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||May 22, 2021 5:02 PM|
Many Chinese entertainers sing, R100.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||May 22, 2021 5:14 PM|
R100, that’s some sloppy dancing. The stage is a mess.
K-pop is a package: singing is maybe 20% of it. China’s entertainment companies, like Japan’s, still lack most of the remaining 80%.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||May 22, 2021 5:17 PM|
Lay Zhang, who is a Chinese rapper, has worked with Alan Walker, who is an English-Norwegian record producer and DJ. Alan Walker wrote the song, 'Faded', as sang by the singers in R78.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||May 22, 2021 5:26 PM|
R99 is just old.
I bet he has forehead lines.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||May 22, 2021 5:26 PM|
R104. I am not old dumbass and not everyone who is not a fan of cheap manufactured foreign pop is old.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||May 22, 2021 6:31 PM|
Anyone who automatically labels put-together Asian guys “ladyboys” is old.
Your forehead lines say everything: ragged, grizzled, tired. And a flyover.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||May 22, 2021 8:58 PM|
R106 is for R105.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||May 22, 2021 8:58 PM|
Biden is so endearing. I like this.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||May 24, 2021 2:50 AM|
I am rooting for GOT7 and hope they can continue with the band after leaving the odious JYP.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||May 24, 2021 10:20 AM|
I’ve been including this in my makeout etc. playlist lately.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||June 2, 2021 6:02 AM|
Of this is the actual MV.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||June 2, 2021 6:05 AM|
No one wants to talk about Jackson Wang? I don’t think he’s been mentioned once on this thread. I think he has the potential to really crack the American market as a soloist. He is relentless. I know he’s not Korean but he was/is a KPop artist.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||June 2, 2021 10:30 AM|
Are there asians now posting on DL. I miss the days you will never see threads like this on this site.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||June 2, 2021 10:36 AM|
R113 is an eldergay flyover.
Eldergay flyovers, most English-speaking K-pop listeners aren't Asian.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||June 2, 2021 1:40 PM|
R112, I'm more into 4th-gen groups, plus Exo and BTS.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||June 2, 2021 1:43 PM|
What generation are BTS?
|by Anonymous||reply 116||June 2, 2021 2:17 PM|
3rd, R116. TXT, also from Hybe, are 4th.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||June 2, 2021 2:20 PM|
R114 I am a young person but I don't understand the fascination with less masculine looking male. It must be a fetish because they all look trans.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||June 2, 2021 2:21 PM|
You're hilarious R19!
|by Anonymous||reply 119||June 2, 2021 2:22 PM|
It’s just the styling for pop groups in Korea. Oddly you get used to it even if it looks so over the top at first.. It’s really for when they are dressed up for stage.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||June 2, 2021 2:24 PM|
R118, are you a flyover?
They're just stage looks for "comeback" concepts. "Comeback" in K-pop means a new release of a song, album, etc. They happen every 4 months or so. The looks change every time, and they don't look like that offstage. They're not styled like that in everyday life. That should be obvious.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||June 2, 2021 2:30 PM|
This guy is gorgeous.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||June 2, 2021 2:33 PM|
I like how they take every existing pop musical genre or subgenre (e.g., Latin house, dubstep, etc.) and emerging look in makeup, hair, costume, and video production style, polish and combine them in interesting ways to make up "concepts", and then deploy them, commodified and packaged, in mere month-long promotions for new track/album releases. It puts cultural trends in their place, as just ephemeral novelties, rather than how the West elevates silly things like a hairstyle, dress, or particular pop culture era into stuff worthy of an biopic, etc.
And I love how foreigners freak out when they engage in cultural appropriation. They don't care about that stuff, unless it affects sales, in which case they make an apology and the controversy evaporates.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||June 2, 2021 2:40 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 124||June 2, 2021 2:42 PM|
The entire K-pop band should take a very close look at Michael Jackson's face as an example of what happens when excessive extreme plastic surgery is performed and then has to be maintained. Particularly the nose area.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||June 2, 2021 2:44 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 126||June 2, 2021 2:45 PM|
Most of the music in Kpop is atrocious. If I wanted to see hot guys I could look up Instamodels or watch porn. I'd rather not inflict myself with overproduced and disposable music that makes my ears bleed. A lot of Kpop fans get so violently angry when others don't care about Kpop. I love anime, Hong Kong action films and studying East Asian culture and history. But Kpop just sounds like a cheap knock-off of American pop to me and the whole Idol culture is beyond creepy and exploitative. I prefer Korean rock music and hip-hop. And at least Japanese popular music is distinctive and I love the use of jazz, funk and traditional string instruments in a lot of their compositions.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||June 2, 2021 3:00 PM|
Korea is creating groups for Japan now. So far they're huge hits. They're going to assimilate their pop music industry like the Borg. Japanese idols will actually be polished when they debut in Japan, cf. the old trend in Japan of "just swing it and get better over time", and they'll actually be able to dance now. I'm looking forward to Hybe's Japanese boy group.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||June 2, 2021 3:04 PM|
R125, they have best plastic surgeons on the planet. And you might be coming from the premise that like they're supposed to have 30-year careers like top pop stars in the West. That's not how it works over there. Each generation has about 10 years max.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||June 2, 2021 3:09 PM|
Particularly the nose area.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||June 2, 2021 4:18 PM|
[quote] They're going to assimilate their pop music industry like the Borg
I completely agree. What I’m hoping is that as a result KPop music will get better. There is truth to so much of it being terrible and a level beyond disposable. They need to raise their standards now that it’s truly worldwide.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||June 2, 2021 4:30 PM|
I want to plug Blackpink’s Lisa’s video The Movie. The choreography is so good and it’s done to Destiny Roger’s “Tomboy” which is a really good song.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||June 4, 2021 10:27 AM|
Very cute from TXT just out.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||June 12, 2021 8:21 PM|
The other latest single from TXT. It’s lovely.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||June 12, 2021 8:26 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 135||June 12, 2021 8:35 PM|
They have smooth underarms.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||June 12, 2021 8:46 PM|
That sexy rapper guy with the deep voice from Monsta X is gay right?
|by Anonymous||reply 137||June 13, 2021 11:28 PM|
R137 you talking about Joohoney/Jooheon? He sets my gaydar off. He and Jackson Wang together is a gayfest.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||June 19, 2021 2:01 PM|
I meant IM. I didn’t know his name at first. He has a verrrrry sexy voice and I am 99% convinced he’s gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||June 20, 2021 12:19 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 140||June 26, 2021 6:38 AM|
There is nothing wonderful or profound about kpop.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||June 26, 2021 6:48 PM|
Felix of Stray Kids is probably the prettiest young man I have ever seen in my life. His voice doesn’t match his face.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||June 29, 2021 3:49 PM|
Hyundai bought Boston Dynamics. Here’s BTS dancing with the robot Spot. From today.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||June 30, 2021 4:12 AM|
The robots dancing. Amazing.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||June 30, 2021 4:18 AM|
R142. The last clips (with the peach emojis on his cheeks) are especially cute.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||July 1, 2021 8:28 AM|
R142. Cute and sexy in parts.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||July 1, 2021 8:29 AM|
More Felix. He gets a kiss. He’s very likely bi, too. He basically outed himself at a concert.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||July 1, 2021 8:35 AM|
Yeah he’s pretty open about liking men and women. Here is a clip that really demonstrates the contrast of his looks versus face. (Other than just watching a m/v)
|by Anonymous||reply 148||July 1, 2021 5:14 PM|
Sorry I meant looks versus voice.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||July 1, 2021 5:15 PM|
I really like this. So pretty and distinctively East Asian.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||July 2, 2021 3:14 AM|
Stray Kids are heavy with the gay stuff. It’s cute.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||July 2, 2021 3:24 AM|
It is cute. They are a very likable bunch of young guys.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||July 2, 2021 2:39 PM|
Xin Liu from Cpop group The9. I love her androgynous vibe and I think the song is really good.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||July 3, 2021 11:35 AM|
Any Hyunjin (Stray Kids) fans?
|by Anonymous||reply 154||July 9, 2021 7:15 AM|
Yeah. He’s the one who really stands out, even more so than Felix at first.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||July 9, 2021 4:01 PM|
They make Hyunjin into this crazy sexy persona on stage. So different from the everyday. His parents' home is pretty basic (he doesn't have his own place).
|by Anonymous||reply 156||July 9, 2021 4:26 PM|
They all still live in dorms I am assuming.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||July 9, 2021 4:28 PM|
Yup, still in the dorm. Same one they started in. They still cook their own food and clean, too.
My favorite. Hyunjin from 6:15 - "20 minutes at 180 degrees in the air fryer".
|by Anonymous||reply 158||July 9, 2021 4:31 PM|
High school Hyunjin.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||July 9, 2021 4:44 PM|
Have you seen Hyunjin’s new dance video? It’s really good!
|by Anonymous||reply 160||July 10, 2021 10:33 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 161||July 12, 2021 7:47 AM|
He just looks like a doll to me. Almost not real.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||July 12, 2021 10:41 AM|
Nice new performance from Hyunjin. He's back after a long hiatus for his school bullying scandal. I do wish he'd have short hair for a while again, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||July 12, 2021 2:12 PM|
Sungjoo as an idol
|by Anonymous||reply 164||July 12, 2021 4:51 PM|
Sungjoo in the military
|by Anonymous||reply 165||July 12, 2021 4:52 PM|
Just out from The Boyz. It’s a promo track for a new app.
It’s quite gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||July 14, 2021 4:51 AM|
Whoops this is the full video.
|by Anonymous||reply 167||July 14, 2021 4:55 AM|
AIDS metaphor at R167. Vampires + gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||July 14, 2021 4:57 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 169||July 16, 2021 5:06 AM|
Here’s episode 1 of the Stray Kids survival reality show. It’s pretty interesting actually.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||July 16, 2021 5:45 AM|
Is this the series where Chris tells Felix he’ll never leave him behind and to always look for him if Felix needs someone? Very touching.
I have not watched this show but I have seen clips of that scene on TikTok.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||July 18, 2021 10:44 AM|
R171, yes. It’s a good show. Ten episodes.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||July 18, 2021 4:02 PM|
R171, yes. It’s a good show. 10 episodes.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||July 18, 2021 4:24 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 174||July 18, 2021 4:31 PM|
Chinese Canadian Kris Wu, C-pop star formerly with Exo, is in deep trouble.
|by Anonymous||reply 175||July 19, 2021 4:15 AM|
I’m not saying whether he did this or not but it’s kind of shocking how easily these KPop stars’ careers can be derailed from simple accusations. I mean look at Wonho and even Hyujin having to go on hiatus just because someone accused him of bullying during his school days.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||July 19, 2021 10:01 AM|
R176, I'm a huge fan of Hyunjin, but he did admit to bullying. It's over, and he's apologized and everything, but he did admit it. So it wasn't just an accusation.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||July 19, 2021 3:16 PM|
Oh okay I didn’t realize.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||July 19, 2021 3:19 PM|
Wu bring dropped left and tight all day.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||July 19, 2021 8:20 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 180||July 19, 2021 8:39 PM|
Is Wu even guilty? Has this been proven?
|by Anonymous||reply 181||July 19, 2021 11:21 PM|
R181, the police haven’t come to talk with him yet.
There are multiple accusers with some evidence.
Don’t know him, but I like Exo.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||July 19, 2021 11:29 PM|
Wu is fucked. More women are coming out with accusations.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||July 20, 2021 11:44 AM|
Stray Kids performing Twice. I’m sure they loved doing it /s
|by Anonymous||reply 184||July 21, 2021 4:17 AM|
The Boys performing Twice in Japan and Taiwan. They hated doing it, I read 😂
|by Anonymous||reply 185||July 21, 2021 4:22 AM|
I’m not a fan of Twice. The girls are all super cute but their music is boring and/or cloying. They are typical of Kpop’s double standard where the men can go hard and be sexual (within reason) but the girls must be demure and restrained. There are exceptions to that rule but Twice’s popularity kind of speaks for the audience preferring the women to be ultra conservative.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||July 21, 2021 9:46 AM|
I want to add that this is clear lyrically too. BTS can rap “man or woman, I’ll make you come with my tongue” but no female in KPop could get away with a line like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||July 21, 2021 9:48 AM|
R186, Confucianism isn't dissimilar from (moderate contemporary) Islam, when it comes to standards for male/female behavior. It's Islam minus god, and minus the foreignness (it's from next door, cf. SE Asian countries like Malaysia et al adopting a truly foreign religion, Islam).
That said, that kind of lyric is extremely unusual. BTS is a little bit "out there" because their company gives them a lot of freedom (relatively speaking) and they're trying (desperate) to be globally appealing (thus the vulgarity).
This video is titled "Confucian boy Lee Juyeon". He's a member of The Boyz. The point for posting it here is that under Confucianism men shouldn't be vulgar (per your "within reason" parenthetical). That BTS lyric is very un-Confucian, obviously.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||July 21, 2021 2:14 PM|
This is too funny. The big guy’s girlfriend asked “Are they boys? They’re so pretty.”
|by Anonymous||reply 189||July 27, 2021 2:41 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 190||July 29, 2021 3:28 AM|
Jimin and especially JHope are 2 of the best dancers in KPop by far.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||July 29, 2021 10:16 AM|
|by Anonymous||reply 192||July 31, 2021 9:44 PM|
Centimillionaire Kris Wu may get 10 years in prison. Then he’ll be deported.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||August 1, 2021 11:58 PM|
Chris of Stray Kids is in deep shit with black stays for like the 50th time. He has issued an apology but most of them have decided to not accept it. This time they are accusing him of making a Jim Crow pose ( I have no idea what that means) and how that’s deeply offensive.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||August 3, 2021 2:17 PM|
Black American K-pop fans and their baizuo allies are VERY touchy about everything. It's nuts. They're always scanning for something to get angry about, and for which to demand an apology. It makes them feel powerful, and in control of, and connected to, the idol.
I wish they'd just drop K-pop altogether. I don't know how many times I've read "As a Black K-pop fan, I'm so tired..." If you're so tired, why not drop that which makes you tired?
|by Anonymous||reply 195||August 3, 2021 2:54 PM|
*10 years to life in prison
|by Anonymous||reply 196||August 3, 2021 2:55 PM|
I feel bad for Chris. As the leader of the group he is the spokesperson and is apparently the one who keeps stepping his foot in it. I have seen clips of his vlives and he seems like a really good kid to me. I hope he just focuses on making music snd lets the chips fall where they will. You cannot please people who are just living to be offended.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||August 3, 2021 3:04 PM|
Bang Chan does the most social media stuff (streams, etc.) for fans. I guess he has to, be each time he does it, he's exposing himself to intense scrutiny. Like what if he scratches his forehead in a way 2 people somehow find racially offensive? It becomes a thing on Twitter, and he has to grovel for forgiveness again. On and on. It sucks.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||August 3, 2021 3:11 PM|
Heesung from Enhypen is accused of singing the n-word in a song he was singing along to. Fans demand an apology, and that the company "address the situation". One fan claims another fan just committed suicide over it. (cough... bullshit ... cough)
Zero word from the idol or his company.
That's how you do it.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||August 3, 2021 3:15 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 200||August 3, 2021 3:16 PM|
I have to agree. By constantly apologizing it just gives in to temper tantrums being thrown constantly.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||August 3, 2021 3:18 PM|
New trailer for TBZ's comeback next week. Cute. Kevin (glass-closeted) is a mess, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||August 3, 2021 3:19 PM|
Q from The Boyz and his Chucky doll.
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