New study says Moderna vaccine leads to more side effects than Pfizer vaccine

So glad I got my first Pfizer shot a couple days ago!!

Hold me David. I'm scared.

To add: Zero side effects, not even a sore arm.

And you know what’s even worse, OP? Getting COVID.

Take your vaccine scare trolling somewhere else, you cunt.

[quote]So glad I got my first Pfizer shot a couple days ago!!

Me too! I was originally wanting the Moderna one, but all they had was the Pfizer. Now I’m glad that’s what I got.

“The side effects tend to be benign, with fatigue, injection site pain and headaches being among the most common outcomes.“

Ooooooh scary stuff! OP is afwaid of a widdle headache!

Had 2nd Moderna shot three days ago. As with the first, no side effects other than sore arm.

[quote]Getting COVID.

Maybe not anymore.

Most people who I know who have Covid had little to no problems. But some had very, very serious problems.

Getting Covid is 1000x worse than any vaccine side-effects.

I got my 2nd Moderna shot two days ago and was not a fan of the side effects. At first I felt just like I did back in November when I'm pretty sure I had COVID: bad headache, fatigue, body aches, sore throat on one side. Then it got worse and I had nausea, chills and fever on top of all that, symptoms I didn't have during COVID itself.

This morning I'm almost back to normal except a little nausea. It was 100% worth it.

The sore arm is going to be the death of me, though. It was even worse than the sore arm after my tetanus booster, and those are notoriously painful.

I've had both my Moderna punctures. After the second one 12 hours of feeling bad out of the rest of my life was a small price to pay to be protected against dying from COVID.

My greatest fear about getting COVID is the long-term mental/neurological effects

Soon, everybody will be so confused that no-one will know what to do anymore re the vaccines. Whether to have them or freak out about them or just dig a hole and put your head in it.

Luckily I can’t even get an appointment.

[quote] sore throat on one side.

This intrigued me to the point of curiosity:

Was the side of the throat that was sore the same side of the body where you received the shot?

I got my first Moderna, just a sore arm for a day.

Both overwhelmingly safe with ever increasing evidence of effectiveness even in preventing dangerous symptoms of variants.

But trolls, either just to get sick attention or for worse reasons, continue to post this shit.

Muriel needs to ban them. I'm in favor of company censorship in time of war.

FF OP please.

[quote] And you know what’s even worse, OP? Getting COVID.

Here comes the hysterical harpy right on time.

R18 = FF

[quote] Getting Covid is 1000x worse than any vaccine side-effects.

Most people who have Covid have no symptoms, dear.

I had zero side effects from Moderna.

Focus group of one, but still...

And even fewer have significant vaccine reactions ... dear.

R20 = FF

I had my second Moderna shot five days ago. Each shot involved a goose-egg swollen sore spot at the injection site, but that was it. Worth it, would recommend.

There's a small percentage that will have side effects - as with a lot of drugs / treatments. Hence, the existence of all the weird/fucked up disclaimers for every drug medication on the market. I'm surprised that they don't have the same scary disclaimers for aspirin, because there are probably some people out there who can't tolerate it well.

Then there are a small amount of fucking drama queens of all ages and races. We've all met them. They get a minor injury or sickness and the theatrics are just so over the top.

I'm just glad that modern medicine has been able to provide a vaccine for this in such a relatively short time.

I received both Moderna doses back in January. I had a sore arm for a couple of days after each one. After the second shot, my face felt flush like I had a low-grade fever, my sleep that night was restless and I felt tired the next day. I took a nap for about two hours. After that, I felt fine.

New study says there’s too much news about vaccines. Just shut up and get yours.

I got my Pfizer vaccine at the pharmacy, where the pharmacist was a former student of mine. I said that I presumed that the shot was Moderna, since the Pfizer was thought to have to have been refrigerated at very low temps. He said that it was the Pfizer, because there were fewer side effects. He also said that Moderna receivers often get a rash at the injection site a week to ten days after.

[quote] I said that I presumed that the shot was Moderna, since the Pfizer was thought to have to have been refrigerated at very low temps.

Both Moderna and Pfizer have to be refrigerated at extremely low temps.

The only one to date that doesn’t is J&J.

A vaccine for the china virus which has a 99.5% survival rate doesn't make no sense to me. I rather take my chance with the virus aka A BAD FLU than get an untested vaccine put in my body. I'm not going to be no guinea pig for big pharma.

r31 best not skip your English lesson this weekend

Honest, Aunt done, brother done, me done, best friend one down, his partner one down, all Moderna one sore arm [just annoying, not major} between us all.

"New study says there’s too much news about vaccines. Just shut up and get yours. "

^This^ I made a point of not reading other people's reactions to the Moderna before getting my two shots. I didn't want a psychosomatic reaction. Yeah, I got a lot of the reactions that people talked about, but they weren't bad enough to keep me from doing my daily stuff. Had I read all these reactions I probably would have talked myself into not getting out of bed

To me the worst reaction was the horrible bitter/sour taste in my mouth that came and went for 2 weeks after. Yuck!

A study by who, OP? A cabal of fat frau cunts who "fact check" while sitting on the john shitting out last night's six blueberry pies?

65/Moderna, both shots. First one, little bit of sore arm/ second, no side effects whatsoever. Second was given one week ago today

BTW OP, your link goes nowhere.

[quote] one sore arm [just annoying, not major} between us all.

Boy, I wouldn’t want to be in your house in the morning at toothbrushing time. Must be difficult.

The vaccine only seems to affect younger people—mostly. Datalounge skews older.

When I read Reddit, people seem miserable from these vaccines, some not going back for the second. Reddit skews younger.

OP is a troll r37 but sometimes Twitter links don't work here on DL, the article he's trying to link to is this one.

It's pretty clear that the side effects are only marginally more frequent than with the Pfizer, and are mild. It's nothing to worry about.

To be fair, Redditors are a delicate bunch to begin with.

@r40, Reddit skews Karen you mean

You'd have to tie me down and gag me to get me take the vaccine. Transilation, no vaccine. Besides, I rather get the china virus. I read the virus gives you stronger immunity then the vaccine. China virus, come and get me!

side effects are benign, sore arm, headache.....go to hell OP

R42 and R43 - Reddit is just a younger version of far-left Datalounge.

I'm not trolling R41, it doesn't load.

There is no "far-left Datalounge," you doorknob. The only "far-left" on DL is, like, one troll who says he's far left.

I didn't say YOU were trolling r47, I said OP is a troll!

And yes, even though he is a troll, he didn't post a bad link, it's just that DL mucks up Twitter links sometimes.

[quote]There is no "far-left Datalounge," you doorknob. The only "far-left" on DL is, like, one troll who says he's far left.

Huh.

Mental illness already has, r44...

Folks who are younger and/or have a stronger immune system seems to be having more side effects to the vaccine. But the side effects only last a day or so. A small price to pay in comparison to getting full blown COVID.

Sorry, R49. I agree about OP.

I’ve had full blown Covid. The side effects went on for almost 6 weeks. It was hell. Trust me - you don’t want to play Russian Roulette with Covid because your symptoms could be non-existent or mild, or they could put you in the hospital on a ventilator. No one knows to what extent they’ll suffer until they get it. You might think you’re invincible, but Covid can literally kick your ass. So don’t be stupid - get vaccinated.

Remember what the experts said recently, that the stronger the side effects are, the stronger your immune system is. So, if the Moderna vaccine sends you to bed for a day or so wear your time in the sick bed as a badge of honor.

R11, And doesn't it feel good to use a metaphor instead of meaning the real, actual "death of" you?

Regarding any side effects: They won't lead to anything worse. That's one heckuva silver lining!

You know, every now and then we'll have a thread by someone in, say, NYC wondering where to move to (yep, preposition). And I always reply "the Lehigh Valley, PA."

Relevance: As of March 31, when I first tried, I could have had any of a hundred appointment times, including the next day, at my network hospital about 20 minutes away. Being still chicken I picked April eighth.

Or I could have easily gone out of network to the other major hospital system, with its multiple branches. Or one of several local CVS, Walgreens, or Rite-Aid pharmacies. Or my Wegmans and Wal-Mart's in-store pharmacies.

Almost all with current vaccine availability.

There's nothing like having a plethora of medical options!

For R25, but mostly for those not yet fully vaccinated:

A physician's assistant told me to rub the injection site so as to distribute the vaccine and prevent exactly the result you had.

Something to do during the 15-minute waiting period!

My arm fell off. I’m ok though.

^better to be missing an arm than to be a troll

I wish someone had told me to rub my injection site to disperse the vaccine and alleviate the swelling. I had very sore arm and a hard knot the size of a ping pong ball for a week after each puncture.

R26, Thank this German scientist, who persevered in her studies of mRNA despite the scorn of others, especially those who award grants.

Now the world might have hopes beyond Covid-19, to HIV and even cancer.

I got the Moderna, sore arm, a little "off" the next day, then back to 100% normal. Quit being a little bitch about it.... it's not like your anus hasn't been hurt A LOT worse, sweetie.

[quote] Soon, everybody will be so confused that no-one will know what to do anymore re the vaccines. Whether to have them or freak out about them or just dig a hole and put your head in it.

Which is exactly why the trolls post this fear-mongering bullshit. It is an attempt to intentionally spread confusing nonsense about the vaccines, and increase doubt so fewer people are vaccinated and safe.

These are the same assholes who were screaming “it’s just the flu” during the early days of the pandemic. Or “masks are communism”. Or “schools must be opened or all the kids will kill themselves”.

Their goal is to kill as many of us as possible.

I rectum you're right R63. 😄

That’s why I let it fall off, r60. Was thinking along those lines.

I have a compromised immune system, and I take a chemo drug. But I had barely any side effects, just more fatigued than normal. My arm was a bit sore, and I took a long nap and that was it. I have wondered if you were exposed or had Covid, does that alter your reaction? I may have had it before it was a pandemic-I was sick in December and January for nearly 2 months.

My partner woke up with a mild fever and chills, he took an ibuprofen, and was fine the next day.

Nothing, and I really mean nothing, leads to more side effect than your horrid obesity and maybe your mediocre fabrication, OP.

Got my Pfizer shot last Thursday. Only side effect - arm pain for the rest of the day.

To quote one of are great first ladies, JUST SAY NO! If people want to put that UNTESTED garbage in there system, go for it but as for me, there gonna have to put a bullet to my head first.

Oh, I would pay goood $$ to watch that!

One less illiterate in the world would be great.

I’m with you, r71, let’s pool our money.

While most people only get the flu like symptoms and sore arms there is a percentage of people who've lost hearing and developed tinnitus from the vaccines. It's happened with all three whether it's Pfizer, Moderna or J&J. These are not hysterics, nut cases or antivaxxer advocates. These are pro-vaccine people who didn't know there was this risk & many didn't even know there is such a thing as tinnitus. They got their vaccinations not thinking anything of it then shortly after had these side effects happen. They're in the process of seeing doctors & ENTs going for MRIs, etc. Some are being helped by steroids both oral & injected. Some are having improvement in hearing loss while others have permanent loss. I've had hearing loss & tinnitus for 35 years. I'm not getting these current vaccinations but will wait in hopes of something better in the future. I'll be masking & social distancing longer than others, but until you have these conditions you don't know how awful it is.

I got my second Moderna shot a few weeks ago. Nothing at the time, but headaches and fatigue since then.

Lots of scripted, contrived responses in this thread. I wonder why that is.

you get the fuck over it.

JUST GET YOUR ASS VAXXED!

Pfizer Master Vaccine. Deal with it, moderna-losers.

R70 totally! I mean, can you imagine getting a random, biological compound injected into your system?

I have had both Moderna injections. Had a bit of fatigue for two or three days, a very sore arm for a week. That is all. It depends on the person, and that is true of any of the vaccines. Two days of fatigue verses covid? Bitch, please.

1st Moderna. Sore arm for a day.

2nd Moderna on Monday. The next day I was fatigued all day, in and out of bed. Today I woke-up sweaty, so I think my fever 'broke'- but I'm still sleepy. I had some diarrhea a while ago. Very thirsty.

I really didn't expect this, but timed it so it would happen on my 'weekend' (Tues +Wed).

Felt awful after 1st Moderna shot for a day or so. First day after second shot I felt okay and was pleasantly surprised. Then I woke up the next day sicker than shit and praying for death (Covid, anvil on head, didn't matter). I have Vertigo so this aggravated the lightheadedness/dizziness, but you name the side effect, I had it: nausea, constipation AND diarrhea, aches, powerful headaches. Lasted 4-5 days. Bottom line: still believe it beats the hell out of dying among (caring) strangers with a tube down your throat! Also, I apparently have One Hell of a Strong Immune System, based on remarks by CDC about response/system ratio. Go me!! GET THE DAMN SHOT!!!!!

[quote]Besides, I rather get the china virus.

What about the people to whom you may transmit it? Did you get their approval as well?

You dizzy queens make it sound like covid is a certain death sentence and that you'll all be on a ventilator a month after you stick your head outside your door. Do you realize that the survival rate is 99.8%? So much drama from you queens.

I know three, almost four, people who died of Covid.

[quote]Do you realize that the survival rate is 99.8%? So much drama from you queens.

A number of those survivors now have long term problems. Do you consider that "drama" as well?

Gee, R84, it's so nice when a cartoon homophobe spews disinformation with a side of "bitchery" imported from 1990.

R86 understands the science.

Moderna has more side effect well CRY ME A RIVER STUPID..... Be grateful you fucking ingrates that you are getting either of those shots. Some countries in the world are yet waiting for any vaccine shot. Just shut the fuck up vaccine trolls

r86=junk science. Most people fully recover. Don't live your lives in fear of the china virus. Life's a banquet.

[quote][R86]=junk science.

The Lancet says otherwise. Are they "junk science"?

More "junk science" for R89.

Those long haulers are mostly fraus who will find an excuse to whine about there imagined illnesses. The amount of people left with long term issues are negligable. I know at least 25 ppl who had the china virus and they all recovered in a week with no lingering after-affects.

I got Moderna while the rest of my family all got Pfizer. None of us had side effects except sore arm and a little bit of fatigue the next day. I was tired after the first shot but not at all after the second. All of my friends and coworkers have had a wide variety of side effects with both types, ranging from none to bad flu-like symptoms for 1-2 days. One colleague's mother was completely disoriented for a few hours, then totally fine. None of it seems to correlate to overall health. It's so interesting how totally random and unpredictable it's been.

76 years (very) old here. Soreness at the injection site for both doses of the Moderna vaccine. No other side effects from the first dose. After the second dose, I had a mild (100.5) fever and body aches for a day or so. No big deal. I had a much worse reaction from last fall's flu shot.

Currently on day 2 of my 2nd Moderna shot. The younger you are the more likely you are to have side effects. I’m in my 30s and it’s pure hell. I feel like I’ve been beaten with a baseball bat everywhere on my body (including my throbbing skull). I can barely walk. I caved and took some painkillers because I couldn’t take it anymore. No coughing or congestion though.

Can I smoke while getting the jab?

[quote]He also said that Moderna receivers often get a rash at the injection site a week to ten days after.

I got this 8 days after my first injection and it's a harmless, though itchy, side effect. It had only happened to 244 other recipients at that point (early March), according to the website where the pharmacist asked me to leave my side effect report. I have more odd reactions to things anyway, due to underlying autoimmune conditions.

You get the next shot in the opposite arm and life goes on.

I had covid last summer. I got the J&J vaccine and for 18 hours felt like I had the virus all over again. But I knew it wouldn't last. And at least I'm done.

I would much rather get COVID than suffer a sore arm!

First one was fine. Second (yesterday) is just awful.

It's a shame OP is a damned moron and couldn't be bothered to read the article

The side effects of the vaccines, however, tend to be mild; the vast majority of reactions include pain at the injection site.

More systemic reactions following the vaccine were similarly benign, with fatigue, headache and myalgia being the most common reported outcomes.

All of the local and systemic adverse effects became more frequent following the second dosage. Symptoms like fever, joint pain and body chills were reported more frequently.

More severe outcomes, such as nausea, abdominal pain, vomiting and diarrhea remain relatively uncommon among the various adverse reactions

In most cases the COVID symptoms are not going to be worse than (and in a lot of cases not even as bad as) the side effects many if not most are getting from the second shot. I’m not saying don’t get it but I certainly get why people are anxious about it. I’m absolutely dreading getting my second (Moderna) - these side effects described are just about as sick as I’ve ever gotten (which doesn’t happen often). I already had terrible diarrhea from the first one.

MILD side affects. Go fuck yourself OP.

Shall we ask my aunt who was on a breathing tube in a coma for 23 days, r102? My aunt who was an avid jogger and exercised daily? Oh wait! We can't! Aunt Peg died from her lungs turning to swiss cheese! This video is for you, you ambulatory turd.

R104 what about “most cases” don’t you understand? Just because it (sadly) happened to someone close to you doesn’t make the facts any less so.

Guess that’s why i was ragingly sick for 12 hours, then fine. If that’s Covid I don’t know how people survive....

If you have a reaction to the 1st shot, that somehow feels like you basically have the flu (or Covid) it's likelyy because you either have a really youthful robust immune system OR you're previously been exposed to covid. Most everyone will have some sort of reaction with the second shot. and then 10% of people won't produce any antibodies at all, unfortunately.

[quote] In most cases the COVID symptoms are not going to be worse than (and in a lot of cases not even as bad as) the side effects many if not most are getting from the second shot.

I don't think that's true

[quote] I’m absolutely dreading getting my second (Moderna) - these side effects described are just about as sick as I’ve ever gotten (which doesn’t happen often). I already had terrible diarrhea from the first one.

So don't get the second shot. According to you, Covid's syptoms are much less severe than the vaccine. Don't get the second shot. You don't need to be a martyr

R92 not only failed science class but English class as well.

R108 there are going to be laws about where you can go. So I have to suck it up. It’s also about being a good citizen (because if everyone chickened out of the second, we’d be fucked).

That doesn’t mean I’m not dreading it still.

No shit.

R102, I had Covid. It was 1000x worse than the vaccine.

Right now 6 people within friend of a friend range from me have died of Covid. A couple days of sore muscles is the worst reaction I've seen to the vaccine.

R102 The problem is while a few days of soreness is what you've seen among those you know there are others who have suffered extreme reactions to the vaccine. Just as with COVID being something that can kill, it's also among many people something they don't even know they've got as they're not presenting symptoms. This is the worst of the worst being a killer virus (to some) while nothing more than minor complaints for others. It's vaccines that while are not causing extreme issues for the masses are still causing great harm to a select few. As always if you're not in that group it's easy to ignore those people. I'm hoping the second generation of vaccines will not cause the same problems as their predecessors. Novavax is making their vaccine using moth cells of all things. There is a nasal spray in development and then the oral pills. The sooner more options become available the better.

I had a bad reaction to the Moderna shot both times, very sore arm, weakness, and flu-like symptoms for 1-2 days. I just hope it provides immunity for a long time so the suffering will have been worth it. And I did have Covid last year. That was much worse.

I knew a girl who got the Moderna vaccine. But then she survived.

"Do you realize that the survival rate is 99.8%? So much drama from you queens."

They're HIV+ or have cancer or something. They've had the windows sealed since March '20.

I am finally able to get a vaccine (I was eligible 2 months ago but had surgery and then some problems after and only now feeling well enough for it), suddenly I can't find the vaccine anywhere near me, it only lets me schedule 5 days out and everything is booked. I could drive an hour west if things don't look up in the next week, it's just frustrating that 2 weeks ago I could have gotten a shot within a few miles the next day.

It figures. Trump had a big financial interest in Moderna. He had nothing to do with the Pfizer vaccine. Republicans lie that he got them both to market, but it was only Moderna.

Everyone I know who took the second Moderna had pretty bad side effects, even weeks later. Not so with the Pfizer. I had a couple of feeling not so hot, but not really sick, days after my second Pfizer and that seems to be it so far. Months ago my doctor told me to try to find an appointment with someone giving the Pfizer. I think doctors know things about both vaccines but don't really say anything because they figure getting the Moderna is better than nothing.

I had Pfizer and my spouse had Moderna. He definitely had a rougher time with the second shot, said he felt like he was hit by a truck. But it only lasted a day. I was just kind of tired and foggy, but also had hay fever, though I noticed my hay fever was acting up. Talked to another Pfizerite, who brought up that her allergies were worse, so that may be a Pfizer side effect.

By the way, the "china virus" troll can't do math. The fatality rate from COVID isn't. 0.2 percent. It's 10 times that--2 percent. It was higher, but the treatments have improved. It's going to be brutal in India though unless they get enough supplies in.

Enough Americans died of COVID-19 lady year that we actually lost population in the U.S. There are still thousands of new cases a day.

The Moderna vaccine has more than three times the amount of mRNA that’s in the Pfizer vaccine. In addition, the Moderna vaccine does not appear to be modified to reduce the inflammatory response. This is according to the composition data in the Emergency Use Authorizations submitted to the FDA.

After I got my Moderna shots I started having bad dreams and pooping a lot.

Misread the title as "Madonna vaccine." Oops.

I had Moderna and both were a bitch, esp the second one. Was really sick for 36 hours.

I want to get it but I have an autoimmune disorder and low white blood cell count. I don’t know what to do since my neighbors parents got the Moderna and felt sick so went to hospital, sent home, dad gets bed ridden and they go back to ER, he is unable to breathe , incubated, on ventilator and died. Neighbor said he had no health issues and they’re in shock. I know it’s still better than getting Covid because it can either send you to hospital or the long Covid can be devastating. But autoimmune disorders and vaccines that speed your immune response can also be a deadly combo so I’m so confused as to what to do. Luckily I stay home. If I go anywhere (it would be to the grocery store only) it’s triple masked and running in and out. I think my new cologne is Eau de Rubbing Alcohol.

I got Moderna, no effects to speak of either time.

I also got Moderna. No effects at all after the two shots. Not even a sore arm.

Alkaline water is everything. I heard someone talk about drinking a ton of alkaline water before and after the shot. I did that with both Pfizer shots and didn't have any side effects. Since the vaccines cause inflammation, try to be as alkaline as possible to reduce that.

I grew tits like Dolly Parton.

I really don’t think there’s an appreciable difference between the two. I know a lot of people who got bad side effects from both and vice versa.

It does seem like a crapshoot though. But I guess that’s what happens when a vax is so rushed.

The people who developed severe hearing issues report getting that effect from all three major brands whether it was Pfizer, Moderna or J&J. People who got the AZ shot also report this happening. It's something these shots all have in common, but what it is just is not understood yet at this early date.