What is HollyOaks?

A British soap with lots of hot gay characters. It's prime was 2007.

They had some hot cock-action scenes.

they need to bring back Brendan Brady

Ena Sharples

Killer Katie!

That poor pub was always blowing up. And the death toll in the village put Cabot's Cove to shame.

It is set in Cheshire in the North of England. The fact that many of the characters have London accents is an enduring mystery. An actor friend of mine worked on the show some years ago. He told me that the younger members of the cast were always having to deal with outbreaks of crabs.

It's the soap with the hottest gay character of all time - PC Kiss!!! He's somehow even more sexy when he's being a conniving gaslighting abusive and possessive jealous boyfriend!!

HO wouldn't be HO without mentioning Ste the biggest manwhore who's been with every guy in the village. AND he also had 2 kids by the time he was 17. Whore!

Ste the Whore

I like watching th Facebook clips. They’re like 5 minutes long and show a short portion of a relationship

Stug

McNight

Jarry

Jockie

Jott

Sitchell

A new twink has been added to show.

I didn't know the new actor who took over the role of "Ollie Morgan" is gay, IRL. MetroUK did a pride month feature that included him and his coming out story

Too bad he has the same name as a fairly well-known, gay porn star (Gabriel Clark) .. lol!

The gay men aren't getting much action right now.

I guess it's the lesbians turn for awhile .. lol!

Still miss Jockie.

Still miss Jarry.

I don't know if it's true r20 but there was a rumor claiming that something went down with Brian Kirkwood that kinda helped push Parry into leaving the show.

Had to laugh when Donna-Marie found out Juliet is lesbian, and she said something like she always imagined that if either of her kids were gay, it would be Romeo.

Haven't we all.

Summer trailer

Looks like there's going to be a romance between the non binary character and Brooke who despite dating Imran, will now come out as non binary.

I like Ripley. .. A little bit of Brooke goes a long way, though.

I like Shaq.

I don't like Summer at all and think this thing with Sienna is a real stretch. .. Oh, and the "Simmer" squad is nutzoid.

They seem bound and determined to put John Paul, James, and Ste in the same orbit. .. Not into that. .. I'd prefer all three guys find someone new, or at least one of them find someone new, and the other two in a triangle with someone new.

And since characters seem fluid at the drop of a hat, can Shaq go bi- for James? .. lol! .. I like their chemistry. .. I notice that actor (Omar Malik) played gay "Omar" in the Leeds Playhouse production of "My Beautiful Laundrette."

Ena Sharples was in Coronation Street, r4.

Unless someone new shows up or someone already there comes out as not being straight, the only not straight male character left is Scott r24. I do like the idea of Shaq coming out as bisexual and James dancing(LOL).

R26 When it comes to Scott, I think they should probably just keep him single or recast Mitchell if-when the Toby reveals occurs. They could, however, show Scott on a comical disaster date every now and again.

What about Darren, Craig's brother, did he ever switch teams?

I agree r27.

R28 Darren's never switched teams, although some viewer were thinking he and Kyle should have taken their psych support for one another to a different level.

That probably would have confounded the seriousness of the mental health issues they were dramatizing, but I can just hear Nancy screeching at Darren, "You fucked my fiancé, and you think I should forgive you!?"

Speaking of Craig Dean, I think it's been long enough, and they should just bite the bullet and recast the character. Burnet's never returning (which is fine by me, btw), and a recast could actually help create new drama with the other boys in the village.

Craig's not only JP's ex-, but he's supposed to be co-parenting Matthew. When last heard, Craig had been living with JP and their son as a family down in Singapore; then Craig up and ran off with his personal trainer. .. So reintroduce Craig to the village, then have the cute personal trainer soon follow. He'd be a hot twunk who'd fill the gap left by Harry, and immediately catch James' eye. Maybe Ste's too.

To answer OP question, Hollyoaks is a magical place where sexuality is fluid and at any moment a character can suddenly develop bisexuality and become involved with a member of the opposite sex. Suddenly the town seems to maybe developing a similar situation with non-binary.

It's a village of whores!

The person who plays Brooke besides their character coming out as non binary has also come out irl as non binary.

R34 Interesting, because I was wondering why introduce a non-binary character just to have one of their regulars suddenly go non-binary. I don’t know enough about non-binary, but is that a regular course of coming out, meeting another non-binary person and then figuring out that you are? It seems like that would be something you live and feel from very young young rather discovering later in young adulthood.

Billy Price has been a great addition to the cast in the last few year and is a very strong actor. He and Owen Warner live together and it looks like super fit Owen has gotten Billy to start working out as he seems to be bulking up and developing some muscle.

[quote] It seems like that would be something you live and feel from very young young rather discovering later in young adulthood.

R35 The teenage character who is about to come out non-binary (Brooke) is also autistic and one of the things they've highlighted over the last three of years she's been on is that she isn't always certain or aware of social cues and/or needs things that are understood by nearly everyone else explained to her. I can't tell you that this non-binary self-realization would be real-life for someone like her, but Brooke's story related to her autism has often been about "discovery" -- and after she met the non-binary Ripley and had what that means explained to her, they've written in some *light bulb" moments for Brooke where she now recognizes something about herself that she relates to.

It was funny when Brody turned up for his wedding and Damon commented how hot he looked in his tux and that he should be the one marrying Brody.

Brody agreed, but said the honeymoon would be "messy."

I bet.

It's so obvious that Brooke and Ripley are going to get together after Brooke broke up with twink Imran following a conversation with Ripley and despite Imran saying that Brooke's gender expression didn't matter to him.

[quote] I guess it's the lesbians turn for awhile .. lol!

Girl I’ll be crying about Sarah Barnes in the afterlife tbh. And I’m still so furious they made Lydia a nutcase and Zoe a cheating girl bisexual bitch. We could have been so sapphically happy, but no we have to have vengeance and murder and borderline incest and violent freak accidents instead😭

I know most of the gay fans hated Sarah for her part in the McDean storyline, but I actually rather liked her and felt sorry for her. Even her lesbian turn sort of made sense—IRL I’ve known a couple of clueless lipstick femme model straight women who can’t make it work with men or objectifying themselves in the patriarchal world, and suddenly a light goes on psychologically and they discover what’s been missing.

R28/R30 the funny and interesting thing about Darren is that he’s a rare example in soap of a very camp and swishy straight fella. The joke is that he’s not gay, but he acts like the worst outdated stereotype of a gay man, i.e. incredibly bitchy and vain and always ready with a catty comment. It’s actually refreshing to see a straight man with these qualities on telly, because it’s more common IRL than people assume (I was socially teased in secondary school by a straight boy with his sort of nasty streak).

What I did like about Darren is how beneath all the banter and teasing he looked after his stepbrother Craig Dean so well, and even grew to love him. He was a better big brother to Craig than Craig’s actual biological brother, the homophobic and creepy bully Jake. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that Craig & Darren are rather alike, and that had Darren been into men then he would have been Craig’s mentor of sorts.

R37 Talia Grant, the actress playing Brooke is very well-spoken, and more high-functioning than her character. I suspect she has Asperger’s rather than classic autism.

As a female with Asperger’s myself, I think she is courageous to tackle such a role. Women like us are very often misunderstood and misapprehended.

It’s a bit of a shame that Grant has bought into gender identity politics, but unfortunately autistic women often fall into that trap.

R41, yes that's a good analysis of Darren. He alsoGabe of street trafe vibes. Giving up his hole for a few quid in a drunken fumble.

I want to hear more about the Bryan Kirkwood/Parry rumor

I could easily see Darren doing a solo at English Lads.

The actor who played Ash Ferreira on EastEnders is joining the show as Shaq's dad.

Autumn 2021 trailer.

The gays are noticeably MIA, except Scott being Scott.

And they better not kill Hot Brody.

I've really enjoyed watching this series on YouTube. The three main gays are pretty tired by now, though. How long have they been circling one another? At least the show seems to realize it too, since their story has dried up post-George. Truly, John Paul and James both could leave and I wouldn't miss them. I still like Ste , strange enough. Despite everything.

PJ Brennan, who was Doug Carter on the original series, is a cutie.

Interesting trailer r47. The new twink is after Juliet.

What happened to him r49?

He still works, R50. Successful singer, too.

Doug Carter died in one of the stunts (The Blast - October 2013). American actor-muscisian P.J. Brennan moved back to NYC (Brooklyn area where he's from). He's starting to remind me of Trevor Royal now. Photo from July.

oh dear

P.J. Brennan got really hot and manly, wow. Has anyone had him?

[quote] And they better not kill Hot Brody.

FUCK

But no matter what, Oaks really is just a shit spinoff of the superior parent show Brookie, at the end of the day.

Never will we see the likes of Brookside again.

When Nate came downstairs to retrieve his secret folder, I was looking for a bulge shot, and I noticed that at one point they added a black margin over to the right of screen to sort of hide it.. lol. I had to slow it down, but you can kind of see it toward the end when he stands up.

David Tag will be leaving the show for awhile on paternity leave.

R59 can he take his whinny little bitch daughter with him?

HaHa! They killed Brody! Hopefully this opens things up for the lesbians to be together and ride off into the sunset.

That particular lesbian couple comes off so fake to me. .. Anyway, the actress who plays Summer has already filmed her last scene, so no sunset.

On another note, James and Ste are boring. And I'm really sick of Ste and his daughter. It's one annoying screamfest after another. And who's lame idea was it to script that Leah has the talent (not to mention the body type) to be a "dancer." There's no way that's believable. I almost feel sorry for her having to play this.

They should have made Ste’s son Lucas the dancer, that would have been more believable and ground breaking, Hollyoaks loves being ground breaking.

The only other gays currently in the village r63 are Scott and JP. James certainly has no interest in Scott and JP rejected James after finding out his involvement in the shooting of Mercedes. Ste doesn't seem interested in JP.

Putting two guys together simply because they're the only two who've never been together (e.g. James & Ste) isn't al that different than ye olde "two gay guys in the village" trope.

As far as Ste is concerned I think they should look into recasting Sami's other brother, Azim, for him. .. Recall, those two were about to start something when Ste was getting out of the right-wing group, but the duo opted to put it on hold. .. Just find a hotter guy to play Azim.

James needs a new twunk in his life. .. And if they want to do a dance story, then I'd have Romeo take a weekend job as a pole dancer and have some fellow mentor-dancer (gay) catch James' eye .. lol.

If John Paul sticks around (I'm not really sure I care), then just bite the bullet and finally recast Craig. He is, after all, supposed to be Matthew's other father. He should show up at some point in time. It's been long enough.

Scott's typically comic-relief. Just set him up on one disaster date after another - a few times a year - until deciding what to do about his absent husband, Mitchell. A recast on that front would be hoped-for as well.

Of course, I realize they probably wouldn't play seven or eight gay guys in the village all at once, so not all of this could go on concurrently, but IMO, they definitely need some NEW BLOOD on the gay front.

Harry’s long lost identical twin brother Larry needs to return and Ste and James become obsessed with him as the second coming and form a throuple.

Man the sweatpants Sid was wearing on today’s show didn’t leave much to the imagination

Sid was obviously excited about the letter he'd received .. lol

As pathetic as the police are on Hollyoaks how did they fuck up identify the body of a one armed woman born with a birth defect?

You know, I don't think anyone in the village has ever made a comment about Summer's missing arm. And in some interview I glanced over, I recall the actress playing her said something about how Hollyoaks wasn't having her disability play any factor in her characterization at all. So perhaps not having the police use this in Identifying her tied into how the show was totally ignoring it in general. - jmho

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So Sutton finally cares about getting some muscle tone? .. Maybe working opposite Callum Kerr (PC George Kiss) had an effect on him .. lol.

R68 I think sometime awhile back Owen as part of some prank recorded video of Billy caught in his underwear.

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R74 Yep, for April Fool’s Day!

Ummm r76.

So, what’s anyone’s theory about Fergus owning most of the town all about and how it will culminate? All I can think of is some type of It’s a Wonderful Life Mr. Potter scenario, and I’m not even sure how that would work.

R78 I might guess that Warren will be the one to take Fergus down. He'll learn about the pervy Bluebird project, and that will be intolerable leading to some kind of showdown. It would go toward Warren's redemption for his recent assholery, and in some way every owner in the village would get their business or home back. And yeah, I could see this tying into something at Christmas with them getting back what they lost at that time. - jmho

PC Kiss was the only thing that was worth watching on Hollyoaks. Now that he's killed off, there's basically no hot gay guys left. Unless the writers were to make Brody and Romeo suddenly turn gay for one another...

R80 you do realize Brody is dead, so if he’s made gay now it won’t matter much. Romeo is getting pumped bigger and bigger everyday, soon he’ll float away. They didn’t even give him any time in the fall preview and he has no storyline, I guess he just hits the studio gym everyday and works out.

Hollyoaks had a hot ass, but it couldn't top the ratings forever.

Instead of hot gays, we have to sit through two lesbian couples and a pair of (female) non-binaries who talk about what clothes to wear. WTF.

Maybe the new twink should try out men once Peri rejects him.

I think Timmy's too creepy to bother with. Shades of Will Savage and/or Milo Entwistle.

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Looks like Timmy's a goner.

I really thought Timmy was going to rape and murder Peri, they’re getting rid of a lot of old standbys.

i see Charlie Wernham, who used to play "Robbie Roscoe" on Hollyoaks, has landed a gig on EastEnders as a new character named "Aaron Monroe." I remember people used to think he could play "Ben Mitchell."

I'm not sure I would have recognized him from this photo.

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Well, since Sutton hasn't got any kind of storyline on the show right now, at least he appears to be using his spare time wisely to finally get in shape ..lol. .. It seems that when J.P. does appear, he's simply offering a line or two of advice to one of the other McQueens.

No more Timmy and his red sneakers.

If the British government privatizes Channel 4, I wonder if Hollyoaks can make it?

Russel T. Davies who did the award-winning "It's A Sin" for C4 this past year sounded pretty pissed when recently asked about the move and made it sound like there's no hope stopping this and that "It's a done deal."

I found something from Hollyoaks' producer, Lime Pictures, on what they submitted to the House of Lords (Communication and Digital Committee) on the subject and the future of Channel 4 if this goes through. They're really against it.

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Well. they've given her the publicity she's seeking .. lol!

Over the last few months, I've thought more than once that they might write Mandy out anyway.

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I love Sid’s discomfort, but in reality Owen and Billy live together so you know Billy’s seen far, far worse and I for one am jealous.

So Fergus' spy-cam subscribers weren't interested in watching any guys in the village? Seems like he was kinda limiting his business.

I'm thinking he probably would have had to install a brand new server just for a channel featuring Romeo.

Winter trailer ....

It looks like James and Ste are more or less comic relief and/or continuing with the "issue" of how Ste is cash poor and James has money to help. Uninteresting, as that's how things always are.

Also, John Paul, apparently still single, and simply one among a gaggle of McQueens.

What's the purpose of kidnapping Darren? Other than to elicit fantasies of seeing ATD tied up.

[quote] What's the purpose of kidnapping Darren?

It allows Nancy to bitch about Darren non-stop, so gets things back to normal ..lol!

Speaking of Darren, his and Kyle's male depression storyline just won an award a couple nights ago.

In this photo from the award ceremony, Ashley referred to himself as "the rose between two thorns." So I guess that would mean he planned on being in the middle, which actually makes sense.

Doesn't sound like any of the Chen-WIlliams boys are gay. Well, I suppose the youngest one could be.

Sami Maalik exits as Rishi Nair leaves soap.

WTF? That seems like an odd character to go with everything going on with the family.

Hollyoaks has been bleeding hot men nonstop all year!! If they don't get an inject of hot studs (I'm talking Grade A prime beef) STAT, then this show might as well be canceled. Romeo and Silver can't carry the show entirely on their muscular broad shoulders!!

Hollyoaks needs a necromancer to raise some dead hotties... chiefly PC Kiss!!! And I suppose Laurie and Brody as well.

R106 Al true. Can we get Harry added to that resurrection list as well? .. lol.

I believe that "PC Kiss" may be busy with a Filipino twink and an annoying older red head woman in Georgia 😉 r106.

Sami has now left too. I guess maybe that's why Rishi was across the pond and currently in New York City after leaving New Orleans and Mexico.

Someone on Instagram created some Jarry fan art that eventually caught the attention of Gregory and Parry.

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R110 There are some really talented people out there.

Yes there are r112.

You can tell how much Harry was into that kiss with James @ r113.

Who should die in the January stunt?

Hopefully it won't be Romeo,James,Sylver,Sid or Darren r115.

Ethan from the Chen-Williams family was previously on the show several years ago as a character named Jake. An online hookup who seduced John Paul and begin to fuck him at the school only to be interrupted by Sally St. Claire.

R117 Now that you mention that, I recall that scene. .. I remembered the actor from his stint on the Russell T. Davies, Channel 4 mini-series "Cucumber." He played a supposedly straight character named "Tomasz" who came off somewhat bicurious. As a twink, he had a little less weight and a stronger jawline.

I think Darren and Ethan should bond and get together over both of them being shackled to these women who regularly belittle them. .. They can jointly decide to 'make the switch and ditch the bitch' .. lol.

It would be funny r118 if John Paul saw Ethan and said he looks kinda familiar.

Who wants Sylver to be their Daddy!?!

Anyway, there's a rumor now that -- with Sylver's recent mention that he's moving to Spain (minus Mercedes) -- he could be one dying in the upcoming January stunt. .. Some are saying the idea that David Tag might be the next to exit could be supported by something James Sutton (John Paul) wrote in an Instagram story yesterday about "missing" him.

R120

New Years Trailer.

Thanks r122.

Bobby turns EVIL! That’s a fun twist!

BOBBY BEALE !! .. oh wait.

BOBBY MCQUEEN !!

I've been wondering if a drink problem is what they were going to do with JP., since every once in awhile they've shown him asking someone if they want to join him in a session, or it's mentioned that he has a hangover.

Of course, it would be more interesting if he were doing this at the gay bar and throwing himself at other guys.

JP’s going to be a sloppy drunk, just like he’s a sloppy bottom.

[quote] "This is just me making a presumption, but there was a bit of a change within the production team and the executives. I personally think that maybe they just wanted to create a bit of a new stamp. Obviously Lucy Allan has taken over as executive producer. She wanted to make her changes and things like that. I fully respect her for that because she wants to make her own mark, which is great. I have had a really good run with some really good storylines. It was probably a good time for me to leave anyway."

Seems like the "new stamp" is getting rid of hot guys... lol!

R128 “Fan Favourite” I didn’t think I would have said that about that character at all.

Celeste dying doesn't bother me. I'm surprised about Marnie, though. Her exaggerated "reactions in French" were getting kinda old, but she still entertains in scenes with James, Misbah, and Donna-Marie.

btw - The McQueens living inside the old Hutch restaurant looks so odd. What are there? Eleven or 12 of them in that place?

I’ll miss that gorgeous tile on the Salon de The.

Is someone going to tell Sue Ellen that her daughter has died?

It would be nice to see Linda Gray again, but I imagine they'll say something like Tabitha's taken Alfie on safari or something.

Here’s the new opening and it doesn’t make any sense. Half of these families have just had someone important to them die and they are all smiley and dancing around. I guess Luke isn’t dying anytime soon, certainly not soon enough for me. It looks like they may have recast a bunch of the children. If they aren’t going to do anything with Romeo beyond make him vacuous and eye candy they may as well let him go do another show where they will let him act. Is Scott homeless living under a pile of coats on a picnic table? I think I’m bottoming out about this show. Not one member of that new family looks related to any other member, it’s like they hired a bunch of different actors and said you’re a new Hollyoaks family, congratulations! Don’t worry, it doesn’t make sense for us either! I really thought we had gotten rid of Diana recently, but that was just a lie.

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[quote] Not one member of that new family looks related to any other member, it’s like they hired a bunch of different actors and said you’re a new Hollyoaks family, congratulations!

Because it's a "yours, mine, and ours" situation, I'm guessing the show was going for an obvious blended family look.

If you count Maxine, Dave has four kids with four different women. Maxine, Sam, Lizzie, and Mason are Dave's, but they all have different mothers.

Honour brought Serena into the marriage from another relationship, and young Mason is her only child with Dave.

And even Dave and Ethan are only half-brothers - born some 18 years apart with different mothers.

Lysette Anthony is batshit crazy. I wonder if it stems from when that tub of lard Harvey Weinstein impaled her with his weenie.

Afaik from second and third-hand reports, there’s a few T loons in the writers’ room causing behind-the-scenes problem.

Was the guy who is Maxine’s father molested by Trish as a child, because he looks at most five or six years older then her?

The actress who previously played Lisa must be thrilled that Lysette Anthony was let go.

At least Maya’s name is pronounced properly on this show-like “mah-yuh.” I was always so irritated by Maya in Emmerdale being pronounced “may-uh.” It’s never pronounced that way.

R141 I wonder if that's why they included the running gag of Darren repeatedly correcting Nancy's mispronunciation of Maya's name .. lol.

Did they, R142? That’s funny.

R143 Yeah, I think they did it with Nancy 4 or 5 times; then eventually, poor Darren himself even said it wrong (after Maya had been killed), and Ethan corrected him.

Haha, R144, that’s great.

On one of those soap message boards the idiots got all defensive about how the mispronunciation of Emmerdale’s Maya’s name was actually fine. I think it was just an anglicization. When Mad Maya existed on Coronation Street, though, her name was pronounced correctly. But then again her character was Anglo-Asian so maybe that played a part.

Has "Maya" become the first choice for crazy females on UK soaps now? .. lol.

There was also Mad Dr May in Eastenders who was involved in a plot where she and her husband did a Boy George and handcuffed a pregnant Strictly Come Dancing to a radiator where they planned to give her a caesarean.

The only clip in the new main titles that impresses me is showing Romeo distracted by his own reflection in the mirror. That's both character-driven and funny. .. The rest of it seems rather ordinary .. like let's eat some hamburgers .. lol.

Damon has landed himself in debt after his recent gambling. He tries going to Grace for some help, but this proves to be useless.

Later, a drunken and grieving James approaches Damon and offers up a dangerous proposition, which could either fix his problems or make them worse.

James and Damon have made a high-stakes bet and they anxiously await the result. Another gamble soon makes things even more interesting.

Tonight’s episode marked the writing debut of Daniel Alexis-Rochefort, whose husband Damon writes for Coronation Street. He managed to get in a reference to Betty White in the episode so that alone deserves kudos.

R149 Isn’t Damon a bit old for James to be pimping him out? Then again they tried to convince us that someone would want to traffic nearly 40 year old Maxine, despite many nubile girls being around Hollyoaks to sell into sex slavery.

But that Maxine has a certain something, don’t you agree. A pumpkin kind of face, for starters.

I'm sure James could find the right clientele for Damon r151 like a couple DLers for example. 😉

[quote] Tonight’s episode marked the writing debut of Daniel Alexis-Rochefort, whose husband Damon writes for Coronation Street. He managed to get in a reference to Betty White in the episode so that alone deserves kudos.

That’s devotion for you

“Brody” guy cuddles.

Who else has Warren killed besides Brody?

I kinda miss these two.

I do miss Harry's sexy ass whoring himself out all over the place

Now that his Mommy is dead, James should just start a prostitution ring whoring out all the young, cute, sexy village young people and turn the Village into his own Potterville and really show them how to own that town.

Still pissed that they killed Harry off.

hell, Liam didn't get interesting until they said he was bi then they killed him off

Why isn’t the kid who plays Harry on EastEnders yet?

R162 Who knows? .. He's been my first choice to play "NuJohnny Carter" for quite some time. Dyer's leaving as "Mick," but whether that means "Linda" and "Nancy" will be written off, who knows? .. I could easily see Parry taking over as Johnny. He's got the hotness of Johnny #1, but could also pull off being the requisite educated scholar type of Johnny #2. .. And given some of Parry's hilarious instagram postings, they could use him to add some humor to EE, perhaps in scenes with sister Nancy. .. Plus, I think Parry actually looks like he could be related to both Kellie Bright (Linda) and Maddy Hill (Nancy).

I totally agree, R163, Parry would be the ideal NuJohnny who would swipe Ben away from Callum, causing him to finally get out of Walford.

I was quite impressed by this.

Dissolute James now drowning his sorrows in drink would be a good opportunity to have him pass out and have a vision of Harry visit him. .. Recall, when Breda stabbed Tony, and he was losing consciousness, Harry appeared and said he was there for him.

Instead of Ethan humiliating Ste by having him get down on his knees and scrub floors, he should have had Ste down on his knees servicing him. He'd keep Ste in line by having video of it that he'd threaten to send to James.

It seems like they're trying to make Ethan a "Liam Donovan-type character," so it would make sense if he were bisexual. That way, Ethan could be screwing around with both Sienna and Ste, literally.

Beau is a mediocre substitute for Harry.

If they go through with James and Ste getting married, then they might as well just kill James off, cuz I don't think they'll ever get rid of Ste.

And what's John Paul's purported "big story." A personality transplant? He's another McQueen who should buy a one-way ticket to Alicante.

Hopefully, the new teen-aged boys (gays) have some chemistry.

The actor who's going to play Rafe, "The Earl of Dee," has a nice ass.

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