I’m a big fan of camp and have watched a ton of so bad they’re good movies but nothing will ever beat Showgirls. Over twenty years after it was released me and my friends still quote it to each other constantly and I watch it a few times a year. It’s not Citizen Kane but there something really special about Showgirls. It is true cinematic magic.
There will never be another masterpiece like Showgirls
|by Anonymous||reply 156||12 hours ago|
You're absolutely right. Verhoeven has a unique vision and I'm glad he followed it for this movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||04/08/2021|
You Don't Nomi was a fun documentary about Showgirls.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||04/08/2021|
I don't know how good you are, darlin', and I don't know what it is you're good at, but if it's at The Cheetah, it's not dancing.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||04/08/2021|
Thanks! It's a ver-sayce.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||04/08/2021|
"You ate all the chips"
Best line in the whole goddamn movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||04/08/2021|
You Don’t Nomi was excellent
|by Anonymous||reply 6||04/08/2021|
The rape at the end really affects my enjoyment of the movie, it's so out of place IMO.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||04/08/2021|
I could not agree more, OP. Aside from the delicious camp and bad acting, the days of a big cinematic event like the release of Showgirls are over. Studios would never pour that type of money into a film like Showgirls today. The anticipation was big and I remember seeing it with an older friend because you had to be accompanied by someone 18+ and they had ushers checking ID's at the door.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||04/08/2021|
R7, the "rape" is simply the set-up for the Nomi-Kick-The-Shit-Out-Of-Him-In-Heels "climax."
In this case, in this flaming camp cheese pie, any violent events are part of the fun (as in John Waters' movies, VOTD, "Johnny Guitar," and so on. The absurdity of the rape plays like a bad-movie version of rape. It is stupid, as is the hospital scene and Nomi's stomp game, which is as mechanical and weirdly paced as Nomi's lap dance and swimming pool pump-and-lift fuck routines. Nomi dances, fucks and stomps like Elaine in Seinfeld dancing. But Nomi becomes a one-night STAR!
Relax. You certainly don't have to like it, but the scene actually fulfills the horribly bad-minded vision of this peerlessly bad shit show. It helps seal the perfection. And it gets Nomi out of her triumphant new career so she can head to LA (where she becomes the 1990s version of the Black Dahlia, perhaps).
Or does she!?!?!?!?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||04/08/2021|
its kind of sad that Netflix has been smart enough to avoid throwing money at actors and directors for passion projects (aka projects nobody else wants to finance). Thats the only way you get shit like SHOWGIRLS. Otherwise, when a movie is garbage, it gets chopped down to 90 minutes and sanitized
|by Anonymous||reply 10||04/08/2021|
R8 Good point. Obviously the accessibility of the internet and being able to stream things from your home are great, but we’ve lost the intangible hype of the old days.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||04/08/2021|
R10 so true.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||04/08/2021|
I saw Showgirls the night it opened in New York City. I went into it without any prior knowledge of the trainwreck I was about to watch. Joe Eszterhas was still riding the Basic Instinct wave and everyone expected it to be another edgy megahit. I hadn't even read the review in the New York Times and the internet wasn't a big thing yet. It had been heavily hyped and I was excited to see it.
I still remember that creeping feeling of shock that slowly came over me as I realized that This. Is. Awful.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||04/08/2021|
They originally wanted Drew Barrymore to play Nomi Malone. She turned it down, but they still pay homage to her in the film in the scene where Nomi gets hired by the Stardust and takes her makeup station. The girl who sat there before her was named “Drew”.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||04/08/2021|
I remember seeing this in a cinema in Toronto opening weekend. It was unlike anything I had ever seen on the big screen before. I couldn't believe Hollywood threw so much money into this film, with Elizabeth Berkeley in the lead role, and she was only known for Saved by the Bell. It really wouldn't happen today.
Paul Verhoeven and EB put in 110% even if they probably saw the film differently. EB played it so seriously with no sense of humour and yet that is what makes her so compelling to watch. She just gives so much, it's like her life depends on it. You can just see her thinking this is her Sharon Stone-in-Basic-Instinct moment. PV definitely directed it to show T&A but he also brought his trademark humour, which Gina Gershon knew how to play (and brilliantly).
It's also impressively shot, with great Las Vegas locations and a killer soundtrack.
The rape is disturbing but there is something really satisfying when Nomi kicks the shit out of Andrew Carver. It's weirdly cathartic and I thought EB was good in that scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||04/08/2021|
Never seen it. It looks wretched to me, and not in s fun way.
But we all have our "masterpieces," I suppose.
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|by Anonymous||reply 17||04/08/2021|
Great post R15. Is this on any streaming service? Haven't seen this in ages but this thread has me wanting to do a re-watch. I may appreciate it on levels that I didn't as a high school/college student when I first saw it.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||04/08/2021|
As much as I enjoy it in all its almost-X-rated glory, I find the "Basic Cable MS Paint Bra Edition" hilarious.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/08/2021|
R19 my friends and I called them 'cartoon bras.' LOL
I liked Stewie Griffin's choreography.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/09/2021|
It's absolute trash but the very definition of iconic. Her performance is just so unhinged. The pool scene is probably the most famous sex scene in the history of cinema but for all the wrong reasons.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||04/09/2021|
When the beads hit the stage and dancers slipped and started flying through the air, I was in.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||04/09/2021|
It's so bad it's ... bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||04/09/2021|
“I’ll buy you a burrito. Maybe even some...FAJITAS!”
|by Anonymous||reply 24||04/09/2021|
The funniest thing about Showgirls is that Eszterhas got paid $2 million for his terrible script.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||04/09/2021|
I loved it when VH1 would show it and used CGI to cover over the nudity.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||04/09/2021|
Nomi’s got heat!
|by Anonymous||reply 27||04/09/2021|
I saw it in the theater when it was released with maybe 12 other people there. Several walked out. It was so awful but unintentionally funny. It was an instant classic with gay men and honestly a lot of straight men like it too because...naked chicks.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||04/09/2021|
It's a terrible movie but so compelling to watch: Well-paced and with beautiful visuals. I agree that Gina Gershon is the only one who really understood how to play this cheesefest.
The problem with the rape scene is that it's too long and too explicit. They could have simply shown the men grabbing the girl and then her walking out all beaten and bloody a few minutes later. The audience would have understood what had happened. I admit that when I watch it, I always skip the rape scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||04/09/2021|
Ahhhh...I saw this the night it opened, the 12 midnight show at Mann's Chinese Theater. It was my first week in LA. I've never had another movie-going experience like it. The whole audience knew it was going to be a spectacular piece of campy shit from the second it started. The heckling was GENIUS...and I've never laughed so hard in my whole fucking life. It was like a live show of Mystery Theater 3000.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||04/09/2021|
Even Elizabeth Berkley's tits were awful and miscast in this.
There are some great lines - and let's face it - "You are a Whore, Darlin'" sums up DataLounge in five words.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||04/09/2021|
[quote]The problem with the rape scene is that it's too long and too explicit. They could have simply shown the men grabbing the girl and then her walking out all beaten and bloody a few minutes later. The audience would have understood what had happened. I admit that when I watch it, I always skip the rape scene.
Yeah, I think the rape scene brings it down in the same way the "chicken fuck" scene brings down [italic]Pink Flamingos.[/italic]
|by Anonymous||reply 32||04/09/2021|
It's one of the most quotable movies in history and it is certainly a unique vision. There are so many Oscar winning movies that aren't nearly as interesting. Compare Showgirls to Battlefield Earth--the latter is really terrible while the former is entertaining if not misguided.
R32, I think the rape scene actually works best in the censored VH1 version, where they just show Mollie going into the room and then stumbling out of it all beaten up. I was genuinely shocked when I saw the unedited version.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/09/2021|
I think what makes Showgirls unique versus All About Eve and those other movies with an underdog ascending into Hollywood is that in Showgirls, the women realize that it's the men who are the ultimate assholes. In Showgirls, everyone except for Mollie is a prick but it's the men who are the one who control the strings and play everyone. That's missing from those other films.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||04/09/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 35||04/09/2021|
"I've always had a problem with pussy"
"you fuck them without fuckin' them!"
|by Anonymous||reply 36||04/09/2021|
Man, everybody got AIDS and shit!
|by Anonymous||reply 37||04/09/2021|
It must be weird not having anyone cum on you.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||04/09/2021|
I don't fantasize about having sex with Nomi Malone.
I fantasize about her being my friend.
am I GAY!
|by Anonymous||reply 39||04/09/2021|
Kyle McLaughlin was second-worst behind EB in terms of stink-o-rama performances. And I was a big Twin Peaks fan. Like some big Vegas casino (even in the 90's, even at the low rent Stardust) would've invested so much cash in a horse-faced unknown former stripper and prostitute like Nomi, it was totally laughable. I did enjoy the view of Kyle's ass though, right before he gets the epileptic pool fuck from Nomi!
|by Anonymous||reply 40||04/09/2021|
I had to look this up. Omg, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||04/09/2021|
Would it let me post this?
|by Anonymous||reply 42||04/09/2021|
This is hilarious!
|by Anonymous||reply 43||04/09/2021|
Oops ok it did.
Hey poor Berkeley. She really wanted to be a good actress. Maybe there's still a chance.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||04/09/2021|
Sorry about posting all that over again. It wasn't showing up.... So embarrassing. I had never seen the movie. My friend told me it was a stupid movie and they had sex in a pool.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||04/09/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 46||04/09/2021|
I always LOL at the scene where they talked about "Paula" and "Janet" being possible leads instead of Nomi.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||04/09/2021|
R47 how come?
|by Anonymous||reply 48||04/09/2021|
R48, there is no way that paula or janet would agree to be in "Goddess"
|by Anonymous||reply 49||04/09/2021|
Berkeley is really good in the very funny, self-aware Saved By The Bell reboot on Peacock.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||04/09/2021|
Liz Berkley only got paid $100K for the role, per IMDB. She's a trained dancer, so the casting made sense in that respect. Drew might've been okay, but she was in an odd place in her life at that time. Berkley clearly thought this was her chance to shine, and it shows. Gina Gershon can do no wrong, unless we're speaking of that Lifetime movie where she played Donatella Ver-sayce. (The irony of that isn't lost on me!)
|by Anonymous||reply 51||04/09/2021|
THE best line in the move- what else?
YOU'RE A WHORE DARLIN.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||04/09/2021|
I saw it opening night, liked it, loved the cinematography especially. I was all into it until the rape scene. Horrible. It imprinted on me so bad, I later recognized one of Andrew’s bodyguards as the straightish baseball player on later season of Queer as Folk. 22 yrs after the movie came out, I recognize him in a bit part in the Twin peaks reboot. Each time I see his face, it takes me back to that godawful, traumatizing scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||04/09/2021|
I thought the rehearsals were the best with the director being in Naomi's face talking about making her nipples hard with ice cubes. It was so utterly ridiculous, the very definition of camp: As bad as a car crash, but you simply can't look away.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||04/09/2021|
charlize Theron also auditioned for the part and was initially crushed when she didn't get it but later called it a blessing in disguise.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||04/09/2021|
The plot is ridiculous. Why the fuck is everybody so obsessed with Nomi? Why does Zack need to find out all about her past? To the point where he hires a private investigator! It’s so silly. Her rise to fame on the Vegas strip happens in the time span of only a few weeks!! The film starts on Halloween and by Christmas she is contending for understudy! What the fuck?
|by Anonymous||reply 56||04/09/2021|
My question is, what kind of Vegas show is this? The topless Vegas shows are late at night and more of a burlesque type of deal. The big fantasy shows are marketed for families and don't have a bunch of mostly naked dancers simulating sex on stage. Doesn't really appeal to Joe and Mary Sixpack from Des Moines.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||04/09/2021|
This whole sequence is exquisite cheese from start to finish.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||04/09/2021|
I saw a documentary on the big Vegas shows once, and they rehearse the new girls for weeks before they go on. Never in a million years would they hire a dancer, rehearse her for a couple of hours, and shove her onstage that night.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||04/09/2021|
I love how Cristal says that Goddess is the best show she has ever been in. What kind of shit shows was she starring in before?? There I no way a tiddy dance show is the best thing she has done.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||04/09/2021|
People forget that 'Nomi' was a very coveted part among young women. They were hoping it would do for them what BASIC INSTINCT (#4 of 1992) had done for Sharon Stone.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||04/09/2021|
In Crystal's defense, she's clearly bullshitting in that scene where she says Goddess is a great show.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||04/10/2021|
Did Elizabeth Berkeley fuck somebody to get the part? She can't act, wasn't that famous, and despite having a pretty face, her body was weird: flat tits, flat ass, no waist. Hardly the beau ideal of feminine pulchritude.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||04/10/2021|
How is it that Nomi doesn’t know how to pronounce Versace after buying a dress there? I guess the saleswoman never thanked her for shopping at Versace after dropping about 1k?
|by Anonymous||reply 64||04/10/2021|
More to the point, why did her fashion designer friend let her get away with that pronunciation?
|by Anonymous||reply 65||04/10/2021|
"Friends" do that in order to either mess with their friend or to laugh behind his or back for being so damn stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||04/10/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 67||04/10/2021|
So instead of being there to support her friend in her trauma, Nomi hightails it out of town. IDK, maybe the Andrew Carver beating could have waited until Molly got out of the hospital?
This was so a straight man's idea of what female friendships are like.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||04/10/2021|
[quote]Eszterhas came up with the idea for Showgirls while on vacation at his home in Maui, Hawaii. During lunch in Beverly Hills, Verhoeven told Eszterhas that he had always loved "big MGM musicals", and wanted to make one; Eszterhas suggested the setting of Las Vegas. Based on the idea he scribbled on a napkin, Eszterhas was advanced $2 million to write the script and picked up an additional $1.7 million when the studio produced it into a film.
This is why everybody hates old straight white dudes.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||04/10/2021|
Why was the opening act for Goddess chimps who eat garlic? Seems pretty lowbrow for folks who are there to drink champagne and see tits.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||04/10/2021|
The irony is that the show Nomi sweats and fucks and backstabs to lead is just a shitty titfest tourists are watching while drinking bad liquor and eating cheap steak between bouts of playing the dollar slots. Look at the audience sometime when you watch the film: They're not much more enthusiastic than the people watching the drag queen shows in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||04/10/2021|
R58 I don't get it. What is there to hate in that paragraph you posted?
|by Anonymous||reply 72||04/10/2021|
This is my favorite dance sequence from Goddess. I have no clue what is happening behind all the broken leg drama, but it looks like Cristal in ascending to whore Heaven. Like a slutty Jesus.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||04/10/2021|
Hustlers can’t touch it.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||04/10/2021|
Showgirls is among a handful of (almost) legendary movies that I've always been curious about, but not curious enough to actually commit to watching. Maybe one day...
|by Anonymous||reply 75||04/10/2021|
Berkeley and McLachlan churn up so much water in that pool sex scene, Moses could have kept them in reserve if God was on a coffee break when the Red Sea needed parting.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||04/10/2021|
The one supposedly straight male dancer seemed kind of queeny.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||04/10/2021|
Kevin Stea deserves to be in this trainwreck.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||04/10/2021|
The black cunt's delivery of "What are you lookin' at, bitch?" is probably the best ever uttered on screen.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||04/10/2021|
I've eaten doggy chow!
|by Anonymous||reply 80||04/10/2021|
R76 lmao 🤣
|by Anonymous||reply 81||04/10/2021|
R79, the line is “I’m tellin’ you the TRUTH, bitch!”
|by Anonymous||reply 82||04/10/2021|
[quote] Did Elizabeth Berkeley fuck somebody to get the part?
I think people on DL have posted that she did fuck either Ezterhaus or Verhoeven to get the part. I don't remember which one though.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||04/10/2021|
R77, are you referring to Kevin Stea (Madonna's former backup dancer)? I think he came out later in life. It was pretty obvious though.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||04/10/2021|
Can you spell MGM backwards? I bet you can’t.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||04/10/2021|
I don't know why, but I still remember the extras in the ballroom dancing scene playing a gay couple, dancing together, one wearing a light blue suit.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||04/10/2021|
R86 YES!! Right before the gratuitous rape scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||04/10/2021|
Isn't Verhoeven gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 88||04/10/2021|
R82, what are you talking about? That's not what she says.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||04/10/2021|
R84, no, he grabs the angry black chick's ass and then says I can't help it if you don't have a gay partner. Then Kevin and another dancer with gayface for DAYS say they want a peek.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||04/10/2021|
R79, I also love when she tells those bratty kids to “shut the fuck up”.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||04/10/2021|
What did that Jeff guy do with Nomi’s stolen suitcase? Is he son kind of used panties creeper?
|by Anonymous||reply 92||04/10/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 93||04/10/2021|
I was not only confused about the Goddess show but wtf was up with the monkey show before them that they repeatedly make reference to? Is it just some guy feeding a bunch of monkeys garlic and letting them run around shitting all over the place?
|by Anonymous||reply 94||04/10/2021|
No r79 that’s what James says to Nomi after he bails her out of jail and says “you can’t dance but I could teach you. He says “bitch I’m tellin you the truth!” And another gem “I see you hidin”
|by Anonymous||reply 95||04/10/2021|
Sorry that was meant for r82.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||04/10/2021|
“It must be weird, not having anybody cum on you.” - Al
|by Anonymous||reply 97||04/10/2021|
this is the BITCH I’m telling you the truth! Scene. We also get the classic line “everybody got aids and shit.”
|by Anonymous||reply 98||04/10/2021|
R97, the best part of that line is that it's meant to be sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||04/10/2021|
R99 right? It’s hilarious. Not to mention how that scene I meant to show the audience how caring her sleazy strip club coworkers are vs the assholes she works with at the (classy??) Goddess show.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||04/10/2021|
It's Showgirls the Series! I watch this every so often when I need a good, hearty laugh.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||04/10/2021|
The line that Robert Davi delivers about the cum is so odd and gross but in a weird way... true? And Berkeley's reaction is - it almost feels like the film is making fun of Berkeley and Nomi and how both are naive (Berkeley, for thinking that she is going to be a movie star after this and Nomi, because you would think with her street smarts that wouldn't shock her).
The vomiting sequence is also hilarious because it comes out of nowhere. Poor Molly is not only raped but her new friend violently vomits at her.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||04/10/2021|
R102 because Verhoeven has a sick barf fetish. People vomit in many of his films.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||04/10/2021|
How did I forget the best line?
"I used to eat dog food too! Doggie Chow..."
|by Anonymous||reply 104||04/10/2021|
They are obsessed with eating chips and fancy nails. Why? It’s so bizarre.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||04/11/2021|
I love how lazy the prop person was. They cut a Lay's bag in half and reseal it. It's the oddest looking bag of chips ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||04/11/2021|
R105, don't forget burgers, fries and dog food. Basically, these women are trash and aren't too different from animals. I thought that was the point of that.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||04/11/2021|
I KNEW this was comedy gold when in the first 5 minutes she whips out her switchblade on the Elvis wannabe from Kansas and exclaims "CHILL!"
And it only got better from there!
|by Anonymous||reply 108||04/11/2021|
I read that the theater where the Goddess segments were filmed was actually at Harrah’s in Lake Tahoe.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||04/12/2021|
I love when Liz does the jazz hands when watching Crystal.
A star is born!!
|by Anonymous||reply 110||04/12/2021|
Unpopular opinion: I think any other actress might have helped this film work. Its not Berkeley's fault she was cast. But she's just so wrong for the part. Charlize Theron might've made it work. There's a lot of goofiness in the film, Verhoeven is in some respects a comedic director, and it requires the leads to be grounded which is why Basic Instinct works. Berkeley feels more like a sitcom or romcom star. She radiates warmth and happiness well. Dark and intense isn't her forte
|by Anonymous||reply 111||04/21/2021|
Even Eszterhas agreed later that they made mistakes in editing and casting:
[quote]Clearly we made mistakes. Clearly it was one of the biggest failures of our time. It failed commercially, critically, it failed on videotape, it failed internationally. . . . In retrospect, part of it was that Paul and I were coming off of Basic, which defied the critics and was a huge success. Maybe there was a certain hubris involved: "We can do what we want to do, go as far out there as we want." That rape scene was a god-awful mistake. In retrospect, a terrible mistake. And musically it was eminently forgettable. And in casting mistakes were made.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||04/21/2021|
R112, the one way it was not failure was via video/dvd/bluray. This is from wikipedia.
[quote] Despite its poor critical reception, Showgirls is regarded as a cult classic and performed much better on VHS, DVD, and Blu-ray, becoming one of MGM's top-20 best-sellers, grossing over $100 million in US home media market alone
|by Anonymous||reply 113||04/22/2021|
Yeah, I don't know what Ezterhas was talking about.. People didn't want to see Showgirls at the cinemas but definitely wanted to watch it at home.
I believe the Blu-Ray is already out of print.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||04/22/2021|
Wow. It's funny how so many movies that hit number one at the box office are long fogoten but Showgirls lives on.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||04/22/2021|
Did those movies have someone violently ketchup her fries and then throw them all over the place? I think not.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||04/22/2021|
True r115. Looking back at some of the movies from 1995, I barely remember them or recall seeing them in cinemas. But I still remember the day, time and location when I saw Showgirls opening weekend!
|by Anonymous||reply 117||04/22/2021|
R117, it's like that with music too. Very few rock songs hit number one but they live on in a way that pop does not.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||04/22/2021|
Why are Nomi’s nipples painted bright red in that scene where she beats up Andrew Carver??
|by Anonymous||reply 119||05/03/2021|
R14 I was aware of Drew Barrymore turning it down, but NEVER made the connection between that and the removal of the "Drew" place card. And I've been watching it for more than twenty years! Excellent.
R119 It's supposed to be sexy, but I also imagine red was chosen to reference her outright anger, and feminine power.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||05/03/2021|
I would still have loved to see the same movie with Drew Barrymore and Madonna as Cristal Connors.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||05/03/2021|
That fat broad at the Cheetah who has the dress that pops out her tits, was only 35 when she made this movie. She looks 50!
|by Anonymous||reply 122||05/04/2021|
R115 and R117, traumatic experiences tend to stay with us for the rest of our lives. This film is so ridiculously bad, that I cannot understand how people are fascinated by it.
The plot doesn't make any sense whatsoever, most scenes are so delirantly overacted that it's impossible not to laugh at them and then, the way in which it was directed makes everything look tawdry in an almost childish way... It would appear as if they had chosen to produce the film from the perspective of a repressed Sunday school teacher, who is both titillated and horrified at the outrageous things that "loose women" do in her imagination.
I guess that when someone's drunk or high, it's possible to find it comical but, if you're sober, the only logical response is 'this is nothing but a brightly coloured piece of shit'.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||05/04/2021|
[quote] its kind of sad that Netflix has been smart enough to avoid throwing money at actors and directors for passion projects (aka projects nobody else wants to finance).
They have done that. It's the only explanation for The OA, which is one of the craziest and most experimental TV shows ever made, and which ended up being one of my favorites. Of course, Netflix canceled it after two seasons.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||05/04/2021|
R122, she played Anita on Orange is the New Black, & looked better in that show, 20yrs later, playing an inmate, than she did in Showgirls!!
|by Anonymous||reply 125||05/04/2021|
I'd LOVE to see a GAY version of this movie called Showboys or Showguys-
The Alan Rachins character would be a leering gay male ( typical dl queen)
The good looking straight men would be standing there and he'd say- GET NAKED it's a naked show and hesitate and then strip naked. Then he's say to one of the men- I'm ERECT, why aren't you?
|by Anonymous||reply 126||05/04/2021|
[Quote] I'd LOVE to see a GAY version of this movie called Showboys or Showguys-
Who should be in Showboys?
|by Anonymous||reply 127||05/04/2021|
Luke Evans as Crisco Connors
|by Anonymous||reply 128||05/04/2021|
R127- How about that HOT STUD
|by Anonymous||reply 129||05/04/2021|
Jussie Smollett as Nomi.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||05/04/2021|
I think the best dance sequence and where the soundtrack is really good is Nomi's first sequence at the Cheetah. I think it's hot and I think this is where she and Crystal have some of the most chemistry.
I disagree that Nomi was not a good friend to Molly in her revenge on Andrew Carver. Nomi kicked the shit out of him, fucked him up, and would have probably been arrested if she didn't leave town. If the movie had been a hit, they left the door open LA.
I don't think anyone could have done better than Berkely. The script was written on a stippers and coke in Vegas bender. The reason is so awfully good is because Berkely is giving trying her hardest and giving everything, which is way too over the top. It might have been a better movie with Charlize or Drew/Madonna, but I don't think it would be the cult classic it is now.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||05/04/2021|
Froy as Nomi and Bowen Yang as Molly. Lee Pace in a long grizzled wig as Andrew Carver.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||05/04/2021|
And can Andy Cohen please play Al?
|by Anonymous||reply 133||05/04/2021|
R127 excellent suggestion!
R129 fuck no 😟
|by Anonymous||reply 134||05/05/2021|
Wish there was behind the scenes, making of footage. Would love to know if Elizabeth Berkeley was directed to act that way and how seriously the other actors were taking it.
"Elizabeth, can you flail your arms around in the pool a little more. Like you're being electrocuted darling."
|by Anonymous||reply 135||05/05/2021|
R135, there kind of were I think. I think I recall seeing a making of in one of the special edition dvds that were released back in the day and they showed them filiming her going "fuck...fuck" in that scene where she starts hitting Mollie's car in the beginning..
|by Anonymous||reply 136||05/05/2021|
Julie: Oh, I'm a slut? Well, you fucked that kid from the pizza place! Annie: Well, you fucked the meter reader!
Only the best quality men for the dancers of GODDESS.
One thing I could never understand. When annie, the Black dancer falls she injures her knee when it's obvious she fell on her butt. Also she's on stage after the show is over. Did did the performers just dance around her until the end of the show?
|by Anonymous||reply 137||05/05/2021|
r124 Most people have no idea who Brit Marling is.
I'm talking about the fact Netflix has avoided financing movies that are pet projects of very famous people who have been turned down everywhere else. Like a movie starring 50 year old Kevin Spacey where he plays a 24 year old (and also directs).
|by Anonymous||reply 138||05/05/2021|
Paul: EEElizabeth, you are angry! You are passionate!!! Take your anger out on the world!!! Throw up your french FRIIIIES!!! Let them out!! Free them!!
|by Anonymous||reply 139||05/05/2021|
R139, I heard that in his Dutch accent so vividly--thank you. Btw, is it predictabe that Joe Ezterhas is now a devout Catholic and has basically renounced the movies he wrote scripts for?
|by Anonymous||reply 140||Last Friday at 3:12 PM|
You can see Nomi's pussy jiggle when she kicks the shit out of Andrew Carver.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||Last Friday at 10:31 PM|
R141 I’d rather see his cock and balls jiggle when he gets kicked.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||Last Friday at 10:38 PM|
I wish that Kyle McLachlan had gone full frontal in this. I was 10 when Twin Peaks premiered in 1990 and I was instantly smitten. Showgirls was released when I was 15 and I couldn't wait for it to come out on video so I could watch him nude repeatedly.
|by Anonymous||reply 143||Last Friday at 10:49 PM|
I believe he did do full frontal in Blue Velvet but that does not show up in the final cut, except in quick cuts perhaps. Kyle has always been open to do nudity.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||Last Friday at 10:53 PM|
Datalounge presents: Showboys
Froy Guiterrez: Nomi
Richard Madden: Zack Carey
Sebastian Stan: Cristian "You're a Whore, Darling" Connors
Ray Fisher: Molière Abrahams
Leslie Jourdan: Mr. Karlmann
Alan Ritchson: Andrew Carver
Neil Patrick Harris: Tony Moss
Noah Galvin: Marty Jacobson
|by Anonymous||reply 145||Last Friday at 10:58 PM|
Magic Mike was the male Showgirls
|by Anonymous||reply 146||Last Friday at 11:06 PM|
Magic Mike wanted to be the male Showgirls.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||Last Friday at 11:09 PM|
You get WISDOM!
|by Anonymous||reply 148||Last Friday at 11:14 PM|
I can’t even thread a needle anymore.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||Last Friday at 11:22 PM|
Did Molly attend her design school in the Luxor Hotel? Also, I would not have allowed Nomi to purchase a Versace dress while she was still staying in my trailer. If you can afford a Versace dress, you can get your own place.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||Last Friday at 11:54 PM|
Did Molly and Nomi share that day bed??
|by Anonymous||reply 151||Last Saturday at 12:48 AM|
I'm not sure that was really Kyle's ass in Showgirls. There's a cut between the back view and the front view (above the waist) shots, and the back-view person appears much more tan and muscular than Kyle.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||Last Saturday at 8:47 AM|
[quote] Did Molly and Nomi share that day bed??
No - Nomi had a mattress on the floor when she came in to the trailer after fucking Zach to be Crystal's understudy, high on coke, which naturally makes one crave chips, which Molly did not in fact in all of. I've seen Showgirls so many times that did anyone notice the chips bach was like half the size of a family size, but sealed shut? It's these little things that I notice.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||Last Saturday at 9:19 AM|
R153 nothing gets past you.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||Last Sunday at 1:30 AM|
See a glimpse of his balls and his nice bush, and the quick flash of peen
|by Anonymous||reply 155||12 hours ago|
"I don't know WHAT it is you're doin' at the Cheetah, darlin', but it's not dancin', I know that much!"
"YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT!!"
|by Anonymous||reply 156||12 hours ago|