Mandingo

Jerk off material for years.

Besides the scandalous smutty stuff, it has some powerful scenes.

What are James Mason and Susan George doing in this?

A guy I used to see at SPLASH NYC ca. 1996 kind of looked like Perry King.

Perry King always blamed that gay movie he made for his career stall, but I bet this didn't do much for him, either

A Mandingo ate my baby!

I thought that was a straight pornstar

R3 Poor James appeared in a lot of trash because his ex-wife took him to the cleaners and bled him dry.

Shamelessly chewing the scenery, R3.

I also snuck my way into this when I was 12. It was playing at an old grindhouse downtown on a late-night triple bill with Mahogany and Jacqueline Susann's Once Is Not Enough. There were all kinds of characters lurking about. I was fascinated and scared as hell.

I would've headed straight to the balcony, and it would have changed my life

I remember Ken Norton appeared on some talk show with Shelley Winters as one of the other guests, and she became infatuated with him, touching his face and telling him how handsome he was. She acted horrified when she discovered that he was a boxer, and he was risking his beautiful face every time he stepped into the ring.

The scene where Ken Norton fucks Susan George is for the books.

That sex scene between Ken Norton and Susan George is scorching hot, despite his near total lack of acting ability. She acts enough for both of them in that scene, and his body and face are gorgeous beyond belief. The sexual tension in the seduction is through the roof, and George gives a VERY realistic portrayal of the guttural moans and cries that a sex-starved white woman would let out when finally f#**ked by a slave with a REALLY big d@!k. Fun fact: George said later that, because Norton had no prior acting experience, he couldn't really control himself and got hard during the scene :-)

I wonder if they asked Ali to do this film before Ken Norton.

I volunteered at a nursing home during my teens. All the little old ladies loved Mandingo. And this was in the 1990s! There was a paperback they passed around like it was Flowers In The Attic or Forever by Judy Blume.

[quote]I wonder if they asked Ali to do this film before Ken Norton.

Apparently, the person they sought for the role before it went to Norton was......O.J.!!! But (obviously) he turned it down, I think because he didn't want to play that kind of role in that kind of movie. CAN YOU IMAGINE how MANDINGO would play for an audience today if he had starred in it?

[quote] Perry King always blamed that gay movie he made for his career stall, but I bet this didn't do much for him, either

The movie was about a gay man marrying a lesbian. That honestly sounds more offensive than this.

Was Norton nude in it? I remember Perry King was. Early penis shot in film history I'd guess.

Whens the remake happening?

Didn't Miss Warwick already make this same film about six years earlier?

Jonathan Rosenbaum, another major film critic, also really liked the movie.

Mandingo is a very enjoyable movie, well made and highly entertaining. A potboiler for sure, but a fun one. Its sequel, Drum, has some moments, but has a lot of deadly dull stretches in between. Both films have very talented casts.

Slaves, the Dionne Warwick film, is surprisingly good and far less leeringly melodramatic. Warwick gave a very good performance. It's worth seeking out.

I should do a remake as the sexy vixen slave now that I own my sexuality and beauty.

R18, alas, there is no full frontal nudity of Ken Norton in MANDINGO. The character is supposed to be hung huge, and perhaps Ken didn't quite measure up? Or maybe it was just due to the unfortunate circumstance that dick is so rarely shown in mainstream movies, especially not back in the '70s.

R18 and R24 But you do see his perfect bubble ass.

Let us also lift a glass to the sequel "Drum"

I do Mandika

“A short time later, Blanche announces she is pregnant, but when the baby is born, it is clear the child is a mulatto.”

This is why we asked about the color of Harry and Meghan’s baby.

Thank you, R20 and others. I would now insist my movie would have to be called "The S Word," of course. And it would end with me singing on a riverboat. But I do not judge those who prefer "Mandingo" or "Drum" or "Mandingo Drum."

I did hear that Diane wanted to do one of these but got all upset and walked out when she thought they wanted her to do a remake called "Ruts."

She hated people knowing she needed hearing aids.

And she is a bitch, of course. But you know that.

I wanted Ken Norton to fuck Perry King so bad.

If anyone wants to see a really fucked up 70s movie about slavery, watch 'Goodbye Uncle Tom.'

Mandingo is a very faithful depiction of slavery at its most horrible. Telling a story set in a breeding plantation where the other white folks despise its fabulously wealthy owners, the movie shows both the racism and misogyny of the old South. My favorite part is the realistic rendering of the interiors of the main house. A dimly lit place, as they all were at that time, evoking the moral bankruptcy of its decrepit owners.

Martika should be canceled, too, while we're at it.

I thought 1990 already did that for us, R33.

Where can I see this?!?

OMG I think it’s on Amazon Prime

Mr. Bentley from The Jefferson’s is in this. LMAO

Mandingo's got my baby!

Susan George dated Andy Gibb that lucky bitch

Judging from the poster, i thought it was going to be a sexy 70s Gone with the wind, boy was i in for a shock!

Slave starlets, hung bucks, Perry King’s penis, Susan George playing Neely O’Hara, it’s all too good.

Go ahead and hate me but I have had a lifelong obsession with black men because of watching this as a gayling.

R38 - He got R6's baby, too.

Been there done that, hussy!

Why are they wearing 70’s plaids in that movie Slaves?

My mom lives this movie! Quotes it! Had it on VHS. So crazy and campy.

I've never seen Perry King's face look so rounded, he looks a bit heavier in this movie than usual. So he loved the black slave and not his wife because she wasn't a virgin. Shame!

Sometime in the 70s Perry King came into the restaurant I was working at as a busboy. My little gayling self did not quite understand why the man at table 12 made me feel so funny and rather lightheaded. It was a sunny day and he was sitting in the window and the light really brought his features out.

I fell in love with Perry watching the miniseries The Last Convertible. So many crush worthy men in that when I was 12.

R13, assuming you're gay, how would you know what "VERY realistic portrayal" of a heterosexual sex is? Like porn, which has no relation to reality? And actors with experience get hard-ons during movie scenes too, getting one or not getting one is not a matter of acting experience.

I have a signed copy of Mandingo signed by Ken Norton stashed away somewhere.

[quote]I have a signed copy of Mandingo signed by Ken Norton stashed away somewhere.

It would be prominently displayed on your fireplace mantel if it weren't for all the cumstains.

you have a signed copy signed?

"This here's Lucretia Borgia. She gimme titty milk" was one of our catch phrases in college. I don't remember if it was from Drum or Mandingo though.

Daddy!

For years my friend and I would say "Slipped her sucker" whenever the topic of miscarriages or abortion came up.

r8 you are right, James Mason said he took the part for money for his alimony payments.

As a boy I recall seeing the original soft book cover by a cashier stand and being quite shocked and confused It showed a woman with a bloodied breast and a man holding a bloodied long knife or sword

My 13 year old sister received this book from our grandma. Sister spent her teens and early twenties chasing BBC.

The Last Convertible! I love you R48 -- it is an amazing book and all these years later I still try to put it in peoples' hands.

Who was it who wanted another drink, held up her glass, and said, "Be a local hero?" We still say that in my family.

[quote]Assuming you're gay, how would you know what "VERY realistic portrayal" of a heterosexual sex is? [sic]

I find that to be a stupid question, so I'll decline to answer it.

[quote]And actors with experience get hard-ons during movie scenes too [sic], getting one or not getting one is not a matter of acting experience.

I'm just quoting Susan George on the subject. Whether you agree or not, I think she was saying that trained actors would likely be able to control themselves, focus on the technical aspects of the scene, and therefore avoid getting erections during sex scenes. I'm sure that doesn't mean that no real actor ever got hard during a sex scene throughout all of film history.

Smooches r59. It's been decades since I read the book/saw the miniseries. I want to read the book again, going to check my local library online. I remembered I really liked Bruce Boxleitner in the miniseries, he never did much for me in other parts but he played a really sympathetic character in it.

r59 was it Sharon Gless who said that? I'm guessing.

Ken Norton was beautiful.

I have never heard about the Dionne movie, Slave! I watched the trailer on you tube and it looks TERRIBLE!

It WAS Sharon Gless, thank you. As for Bruce Boxleitner he did plenty for me in specific parts.

>> Assuming you're gay, how would you know what "VERY realistic portrayal" of a heterosexual sex is?

I find that to be a stupid question, so I'll decline to answer it.

FIGURES. File under iignoramus.

I am the OP. Its fun to realize I was not the only white gayling titillated and rocked by this torrid movie.

File R65 under nasty bitch. The question I decclined to answer was, in fact, a stupid one.

Moving on, here's a particularly entertaining clip from MANDINGO.

I watched it this weekend for the first time in probably 25 years. It’s a despicable movie, but Ken Norton and Perry King were beautiful. Movie might have been redeemed if THEY had fucked!

The poster at the OP is clearly trying to evoke the poster for Gone with the Wind.

I would watch it but I don't want to see James Mason humiliating himself and the black boy. Yuck. What some actors will do for money.

Such a bizarre movie. There's a whole scene in it when James Mason as the head slaveowner is relaxing in a chair using a supine African-American boy as a footstool, which doesn't seem either practical or likely--it just looks stupid.

[quote] "This here's Lucretia Borgia. She gimme titty milk" was one of our catch phrases in college. I don't remember if it was from Drum or Mandingo though.

It's from Drum.

I always forget that it’s naked Debbi “Angie Hubbard” Morgan in the scene with naked Perry King.

I suppose the movie would have been more tolerable if the James Mason character was friends with his Black slaves, fed them well and treated them kindly. Unfortunately that's not the way slavery worked. What makes the movie revolting is the fact that slavery was revolting and not for the faint of heart. I don't mean to say this movie is a great document about slavery but there's no way to show that period in a more palatable way unless you go Gone with the Wind.

[quote]Such a bizarre movie. There's a whole scene in it when James Mason as the head slaveowner is relaxing in a chair using a supine African-American boy as a footstool, which doesn't seem either practical or likely--it just looks stupid.

How dare you ! It was clearly for medical purposes, so the Rhumatiz drains into the boy. Pay attention, you might learn something.

Isn’t DRUM that movie where Warren Oates delivers the line, “this is my mammy! I used to drink her titty milk!”

Wish we had more gay films of this quality.

r77, you didn't read the thread before you posted, did you?

i have the DVD of Mandingo and i have jacked to it so many times it's not even funny!

ONLY for ken norton's scene where it's HIM who is seduced.... at first, nervous and scared, but then his horniness takes over and he takes control of the situation..

the ending of the scene where the camera shows ken norton's character's face in ORGASMIC ECSTACY IS OFF THE CHARTS! his face is literally quivering from pleasure and shown in close-up! NOW THAT IS GREAT ACTING! I don't think i've ever seen in a NON porn movie, a actor's face react that way in a sex scene! I wonder if the director told Norton " now, Ken, during the climax i want you to act like it's the greatest orgasm you have ever felt, show it in your face!"....

and of course the finale of the sex scene where the camera fades back and from above to show his beautiful black muscular body draped over little susan george's character's body is so so sexy!

HOW I WISH, that their affair wasn't a one time affair! IF ONLY, the film had shown them having sex multiple times, in multiple areas and multiple positions!

It's a racist anti-racist movie that nails the institution of American slavery perfectly.

It should never be "cancelled."

R81, no, it treats slavery like softcore porn. That's not anti-racist.

And it's kind of hard to "cancel" something that no one watches anymore except dataloungers

Republicans bitch about cancel culture but now they're trying to prevent school from addressing racism in any way, shape, or form

R80, that sex scene with Ken Norton and Susan George is scorching hot as it is, but it would be even hotter if Norton had been allowed to thrust when he's on top of her. You would have thought it would be okay for him to do that, even in a movie made at that time, as long as they didn't actually show his butt, but even though we only see his upper torso for most of the scene, he's just lying on top of her, not thrusting at all. I guess maybe they played it safe to avoid an X rating. Wish we could see the outtakes.

r41, you know that's not healthy right? You black men are "bucks" and beasts? No soul or humanity?

Has anyone seen the sequel "Womandingo"?

First time we got to see Perry King's uncut cock.

[quote]My favorite part is the realistic rendering of the interiors of the main house. A dimly lit place, as they all were at that time, evoking the moral bankruptcy of its decrepit owners.

Richard H. Kline, who shot it, was a very good cinematographer: Camelot; The Fury; Body Heat; Breathless, and many more.

R39, She was also once engaged to singer Jack Jones when he was hot as fuck.

R13, The scene in "Straw Dogs" where she is raped by her former boyfriend and begins to enjoy it is also hot.

R14 I didn’t know O.J. was offered Norton’s role but I can believe it. When he hosted SNL decades ago he was in a sketch parodying “Mandingo” and he looked hotter than hell.

A real pity he turned out to be such garbage.

Can somebody send me a little coloured by to rest my feet on to take away my arthritis?

The book was so much better

[quote] Go ahead and hate me but I have had a lifelong obsession with black men because of watching this as a gayling.

I’m assuming you’ve never actually shared this little detail with any of your ‘obsessions?’ Because that would send me running for the hills.

[quote]Can somebody send me a little coloured by to rest my feet on to take away my arthritis?

I'm available!

Whenever I watch this movie, I have to repair to my fainting couch with a severe case of the vapors.

Tried to find the SNL parody with OJ Simpson but it's behind a paywall on Peacock. (You don't have to pay, just give them your email address)

Don't put mandingos in your Jello- it won't set!

Gross movie. Hetsex makes my stomach turn. Who let in all the fraus in this thread? It's the very definition of a sexploitation film and totally exaggerated for maximum effect.

Those of us who knew Ken Norton from boxing called him Kenny.

Pleasure me, Mandingo!

Costumes for "Mandingo" by the legendary Ann Roth, as well as for "Drum".

What a fun thread. It truly goes all over the place.

I like the scene at the slave auction where the prospective lady buyer reaches into Ken Norton's loincloth to feel the goods.

R103, And here it is . . .

I would've paid THEM to play the role of the groper.

It’s hard to believe there’s not a full frontal shot of Ken Norton out there somewhere.

How anyone can call this a gay movie is beyond me. It's heterosexual orientated to the point of grotesque. I didn't find any of it hot and I don't care much for naked frau bodies.

[quote]It’s hard to believe there’s not a full frontal shot of Ken Norton out there somewhere.

Perhaps he doesn't measure up to the role.

I sneaked in to see this when I was a kid. Perry King was my everything. Oof.

I'm surprised there isnt a gay porn version.

It's a masterpiece.

You CRAVED me! And you TOOK me! And you HAD me!!!!!

A line to quote to anyone who has sullied you.

I just watched the “Mandingo II” sketch from the third season of SNL on Peacock. It was pretty funny. It’s hard looking at OJ as he was so hot but obviously deranged.

i believe there is a old black and white photo of ken norton in nothing but a jockstrap out there online so there is that..

Indeed

Boris Leven who was the production designer also designed West Side Story and the Sound of Music. Maybe Robert Wise should have directed the film.

This thread is boarder line racist and dehumanizing towards black men and reduces them to nothing but living sex objects.

This is also very dangerous too. When you take away a person's humanity and reduce them to a sex object because of how they look and how their body is built and the darkness of their skin. You can very easily allow yourself to treat people as though they aren't human.

This is just disgusting and disturbing to see. But I wouldn't expect anything different from a bunch of gay white men and white people in general. Especially when it comes to black men and the types who look like Terry Crews.

Of course it's not excusable to objectify anyone, R16. Unfortunately it seems like society is becoming more visual and more prone to stereotype any number of looks, body types, ethnicities, attributes, etc., generalizing indiscriminately. It's reductive and inaccurate. However, you're only reinforcing the polarization and generalizaton with "I wouldn't expect anything different from a bunch of gay white men and white people in general". These days objectification seems to be on the increase among almost everyone in some form or another, ascription askew ad nauseam.

[quote]boarder line racist

Oh, dear.

You're a homophobic racist R116. Begone with you. If you can't see the humor of this thread and the mockery we are making of a racist sexploitation film of the 70s you're a pathetic human being who has absolutely no right judging anybody or anything. In fact I think you are actually that shit stirring queen who uses every opportunity to call people traitors and Nazis.

Disgusting and disturbing my foot.

Are you new here R116? Dataloungers reduce EVERY hot guy and sometimes even not hot ones to sex objects regardless of race.

Is r116 the one who calls out people here for being racist if they DON’T comment that a black celebrity is hot, but is now saying it’s exploitation if we DO?

R116 - Thank you. I'm assuming you, in your life, have never reduced a man to a sex object? I was so moved by the holier-than-thou response you made. It never occurred to me that there was a way to make your point about dehumanizing - and perhaps even fetishizing people - in a way that was less preachy, acknowledge your own humanity and that you are beyond reproach. There was no other way to handle this clearly, and you are the most brilliant person that ever lived and are perfect.

I got to go backstage when Whoopi was doing "Xanadu" on Broadway and have "The Color Purple" DVD signed.

R13 So, when she uttered the words, “Fuck me, Mandingo, fuck me hard!” - she wasn’t acting?

Objectification can be sexy as hell.

So, R116 just shut the fuck up.

I wouldn’t say this movie nor GWTW captures the institution of slavery just as it was. The actual experiences would be somewhere in the middle, a grey area. The only real things we have from slaves telling us about their experiences are the Slave Narratives, which on the whole does not support either depiction. Though there is a school of thought that the narratives should be discounted, I feel that is wrong because you are stealing the voice of the slaves, for a second time. Though this film is somewhat justifiable, in that it is a breeding plantation, which in the time of slavery was considered disgusting even among other slave owners.

It is a difficult time period for us to understand because we judge them from our own time. Many white people want to believe they would be John Brown fighting to free the slaves, and most black people think they would be Denmark Vesey leading an uprising to free themselves and their race. But, in actuality most of us would be just trying to go along and live. Especially since the idea that slavery was wrong and unnatural was a fairly new and novel concept in white European, black African and Native American cultures. Many, just like today, would’ve accepted that it was just the order of the world so they had to make the most of whatever they were dealt.

White fragility is real baby.

I hit some nerves and the truth was spoken.

A hit dog will always holler.

R126 well said....

[quote] My 13 year old sister received this book from our grandma. Sister spent her teens and early twenties chasing BBC.

Yup, like granny used to say; BBC makes the world go round and young fillies wet

No R116 your own ugly homophobic racist soul was revealed. You were as others noted complaining that DL never objectified men of color only white men. So we then objectify black men and it brings out your hatred of whitey and fags. You are a nasty piece of work.

R130 who the FUCK is asking or begging white people to objectify black men?

Last time I checked, black men aren't having a hard time getting pussy or dick or anything else they want. They're getting everything they want just as well as white men are.

That was a stupid nonsense statement made by you. But I guess you have to justify this bullshit thread somehow.

And I'm sure projection is your middle name, asshole.

I was offered the Susan George role but found the whole production smelled of exploitation. I kept turning down the role even as the producers upped my proposed salary. I'm no gutter rat.

R116 you are a gaping twat. You've never been on this site before so don't know we objectify men. Go back into your hole you racist homo hating idiot.

It would have been a better song if Barry Manilow sang about "Mandingo" instead of "Mandy".