Bret Easton Ellis' new memoir The Shards is brilliant
Bret has been serializing his new memoir on his podcast. A new chapter every two weeks. It's about his senior year at The Buckley School, the private school in Sherman Oaks he attended which was the basis for his first novel Less Than Zero. But it's not like Less Than Zero.
They've put the first two chapters up for free. Beyond that, you can get all 14 chapters for a $2 donation to his Patreon. Trust me, it is well worth it. It's been the best Covid lockdown entertainment I can imagine. If you came of age in the '80s, and we're gay, it will speak to you.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||Last Friday at 3:32 PM|
I like Bret Eaton Ellis, and I don't care what the rest of you think. I'd rather have fun than than respect.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||Last Wednesday at 4:59 PM|
How much homosex is detailed in the book?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||Last Wednesday at 5:00 PM|
Started listening and already SMH-ing
He's talking about "Ocho" tequila, Xanax, panic attacks and being rushed to the hospital because he had a panic attack.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||Last Wednesday at 5:07 PM|
BEE is a terrific writer - up there with Wolfe. However, he refuses to bow before the progressive left, so they will do anything they can to destroy him.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||Last Wednesday at 5:10 PM|
11 minutes in and he's still teasing the notion of "this thing that happened to [name drop X 4 + serial killer] and you're listening to find out WTF was so traumatic
|by Anonymous||reply 6||Last Wednesday at 5:11 PM|
I subscribe to his podcast and am really enjoying this. And yes, there are hot gay sex scenes.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||Last Wednesday at 5:11 PM|
This puffy old hack again?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||Last Wednesday at 5:13 PM|
He was a rough looking 53 four years ago
|by Anonymous||reply 9||Last Wednesday at 5:15 PM|
OP here. I don't agree with BEE politically, but I love his writing. I think this is the best thing he's written. Yes, there are a few hot gay sex scenes.
It's really fascinating trying to figure out exactly what's going on in the story, as I think he's the most unreliable of narrators.
I think The Shards may be his magnum opus.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||Last Wednesday at 5:17 PM|
Have to agree with others that BEE is a dick, but that doesn’t necessarily take away from his writing ability.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||Last Wednesday at 5:21 PM|
How many of these pots did Brett write himself? Fuck off.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||Last Wednesday at 5:23 PM|
Is he better than David Sedaris?
|by Anonymous||reply 15||Last Wednesday at 5:30 PM|
Where the fuck is the book? There isn’t a Kindle version? I don’t care about a goddamn podcast. How do I read the book?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||Last Wednesday at 5:34 PM|
Writing? That's not writing! That thing is a podcast -- I'm going to have to listen to it as opposed to read it myself.
Please -- I can read print a lot faster than these idiots can read aloud.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||Last Wednesday at 5:38 PM|
[quote] Where the fuck is the book?
It's being sold as a roll of toilet paper. Each chapter is printed on a different square and it's meant to be read while on the pot.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||Last Wednesday at 5:41 PM|
It's pretty great, no matter what you think about BEE and his Peter Thiel fetish. It's a semi biographical novel about his group of friends in the late 70s in LA. I say semi because BEE claims it's all true, but there is clearly some heightened fiction there.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||Last Wednesday at 5:51 PM|
R5 implying that his lack of recent success is the work of a left wing cabal? Next you'll be saying Tim Allen is the world's funniest comedian, if only people would stop persecuting him for his views!
|by Anonymous||reply 20||Last Wednesday at 5:55 PM|
[quote] I don't agree with BEE politically, but
Why do people on the left always have to signal their political purity before they say anything? Hey R10 didn't you forget to tell us your pronouns and about how many Asian friends you have and how you totally support BLM? DL is turning into a fucking Politburo meeting.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||Last Wednesday at 6:00 PM|
He just had memoirs out called "White" about a year ago. I read that and enjoyed it, but have already forgotten it all. But I do remember him talking about going to the movies as a teenager. Seems strange his new book would take place such a short time later. Does he plan to have a new book about every five years of his life?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||Last Wednesday at 6:07 PM|
Why can’t I read it instead of listening? I hate audio “books”
|by Anonymous||reply 23||Last Wednesday at 6:11 PM|
[quote]If you came of age in the '80s, and we're gay, it will speak to you.
I apparently need to know if you are gay before this sentence could make sense.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||Last Wednesday at 6:16 PM|
He's still alive? I thought he overdosed
|by Anonymous||reply 25||Last Wednesday at 9:11 PM|
Thanks for shilling your new "brilliant" book to us, Bret/OP!
|by Anonymous||reply 26||Last Wednesday at 9:15 PM|
Not interested if there's no homosex.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||Last Wednesday at 9:20 PM|
R21 I brought that up because someone else mentioned it first. Otherwise, I wouldn't have.
Trust me you guys. It's an EXCELLENT piece of work, and it's a privilege to get to hear it in this raw form as Bret works in it week by week.
I don't really understand the cynical, angry responses. Give it a chance. I think by the end of chapter 2, you'll want to know where it's going.
I've been following very closely, looking at the Buckley yearbook from that year, and attempting to find news stories about some of the incidents he writes about. Really fun and interactive, in these Covid ridden days.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||Last Wednesday at 9:21 PM|
R26 I'm not Bret, and he would never come on here and post what I've been posting. Not his style at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||Last Wednesday at 9:23 PM|
R23 not yet. At first, Bret said he wasn't sure if it was going to be published, or if it works ld just be in audio form.
In my opinion, it's turned out to be a major work, and likely will eventually be published in book form.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM|
*or if it would just remain in audio form.
(Autocorrect typo there)
|by Anonymous||reply 32||Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM|
R22 White was a collection of essays. The Shards is a memoir/novel.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||Last Wednesday at 9:28 PM|
Why does this idiot keep calling this podcast a novel? Make it stop, I beg you.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||Last Wednesday at 9:32 PM|
"Trust me! Trust me! It's Good!"
Worse than a 3AM infomercial.
He's a turd has-been.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||Last Wednesday at 9:33 PM|
God he's over rated.
What's that shit novel where some chapters are just listing the personnel on record albums like Huey Lewis?
That's not a great writer.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||Last Wednesday at 9:35 PM|
Bret looks like a caneface now
|by Anonymous||reply 38||Last Wednesday at 9:40 PM|
Can I get this through my library?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||Last Wednesday at 9:53 PM|
If you want to watch someone having a real live mental breakdown, follow BEE's boyfriend @ToddMichae1 on Twitter.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||Last Wednesday at 9:56 PM|
R40 Does it happen during the readings of the podcast?
|by Anonymous||reply 41||Last Wednesday at 10:00 PM|
The sharts? They happen to Brat daily.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||Last Wednesday at 10:04 PM|
What radio channel and time is it broadcasted on?
|by Anonymous||reply 43||Last Wednesday at 10:06 PM|
Will it be a Book of the Month selection soon?
|by Anonymous||reply 44||Last Wednesday at 10:23 PM|
Oprah's been raving about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||Last Wednesday at 10:32 PM|
R34 Huh? It's a novel/memoir. He's reading it chapter by chapter on his podcast.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||Last Wednesday at 10:36 PM|
Sad that he couldn’t get anyone to publish it.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||Last Wednesday at 10:39 PM|
Is it an Oprah pick? I was surprised to find that she was still doing that. I though SJP and Reese has superseded her.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||Last Wednesday at 10:39 PM|
OP: "...and we're gay..."
|by Anonymous||reply 49||Last Wednesday at 10:40 PM|
R47 He didn't try to. It's not written. Pretty good bet that it will be published once he's finished writing it and serializing it on his podcast.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||Last Wednesday at 11:03 PM|
Spoiler alert - Daenerys goes mad in the end and Bran becomes the Cripple 3 Eyed Raven King.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||Last Wednesday at 11:15 PM|
Was he unable to get into Harvard Westlake?
|by Anonymous||reply 52||Last Wednesday at 11:17 PM|
R40 Jesus, the boyfriend looks like when he “cooks” dinner the ingredients are Windex and Sudafed.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||Last Wednesday at 11:18 PM|
May the Schwartz be with you!
|by Anonymous||reply 54||Last Wednesday at 11:20 PM|
R53 He went on a very obvious meth binge recently. I thought he'd broken up with BEE but still called him his boyfriend when he was complaining about something at the Chateau Marmont. He's also been accusing Sia of paedophila.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||Last Wednesday at 11:22 PM|
R55 he sounds POZitively enchanting
|by Anonymous||reply 56||Last Wednesday at 11:26 PM|
Windex and Sudafed? I thought that was the title of the Amy Winehouse biography?
|by Anonymous||reply 58||Last Wednesday at 11:33 PM|
Most of chapter one is sort of a forward. But it's important to hear, and sets up the world. Chapter two gets into the story.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||Last Thursday at 12:22 AM|
In one article it says his 'lover' died of a cerebral hemorrhage. In another it says heart attack. In still another it was after a night of partying to celebrate his 30th birthday...
I wonder if Ellis murdered him?
|by Anonymous||reply 61||Last Thursday at 1:18 AM|
I’d prefer to read it, not listen to it.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||Last Thursday at 2:25 AM|
He's a terrible writer. He's one of those people that thinks if he just writes about horrible people doing horrible things that it's somehow intrinsically got value and is deep. He's like a real life version of Miss Marple's nephew, Raymond West.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||Last Thursday at 3:36 AM|
Still writing about young & affectless hedonists I see
|by Anonymous||reply 64||Last Thursday at 4:01 AM|
[quote]BEE is a terrific writer - up there with Wolfe.
I'm guessing you've read neither BEE nor Wolfe.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||Last Thursday at 4:14 AM|
I enjoyed listening to the first excerpt last night. It's gossipy and does not require me to think. Plus, I grew up in the '80s, so nostalgic. It's entertaining, and that's all I ask of anything these days.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||Last Thursday at 4:29 AM|
Actually R63, I always took his shtick to be "really rich people in places like NYC and LA doing terrible things, as reported by someone who is one of them."
There seems to be a lot of room for readers to think "see how having too much money makes children so depraved!"
He was also an antidote to all the "MFA Fiction" written by people who had never actually lived in the real world, and so wrote about academia or the imagined lives of blue collar people they met at their summer jobs.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||Last Thursday at 4:38 AM|
Has he declared war on Iowa’s Writers Workshop?
|by Anonymous||reply 68||Last Thursday at 5:33 AM|
[quote]and it's a privilege to get to hear it in this raw form as Bret works in it week by week.
I love DL threads about BEE because they always come down to this -- what is more pathetic, BEE writing this about himself or someone else writing it about BEE? Are his fanboys all raised on a strict diet of advertising copy?
|by Anonymous||reply 69||Last Thursday at 5:48 AM|
So, is this like the masses who would descend upon the piers of NYC desperate for the latest installment from Dickens shouting “Is Little Nell dead?” as the ship steamed into the harbor?
|by Anonymous||reply 70||Last Thursday at 5:52 AM|
It’s not a memoir, a book or a chapter - it’s a podcast. Audio”books” are an oxymoron.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||Last Thursday at 6:28 AM|
I don't feel sorry for him at all. He had a great run. Less Than Zero and American Psycho had the sort of success most writers can only dream of.
|by Anonymous||reply 72||Last Thursday at 6:52 AM|
R72 The Shards is better than both Less Than Zero and American Psycho.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||Last Thursday at 8:34 AM|
But those are actual books. You can buy them and read them. I don’t know what the hell this is. Songs that don’t rhyme?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||Last Thursday at 9:48 AM|
R74 I'm not sure what is so difficult to grasp here. Bret is writing his new novel in real time, and reading each new chapter on his podcast bi-weekly. It's a really cool and interesting way to do it. We're hearing it raw, before it's been edited.
It's been a fun interactive exercise trying to figure out from his 1982 yearbook exactly which students he's writing about. See below.
One interesting thing- Bret graduated with Michael Landon, Jr. who was hot as shit. But, I don't believe he's a character in The Shards, though he might be.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||Last Thursday at 11:15 AM|
It's so laughable to see this has-been and his sock puppets re-appear on DataLounge every time he spurts out some 'project. It's so transparent, crass, and sad. He's a relic in publishing. A few years back, one publishing industry pal had a dartboard in the break room with his headshot dead center.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||Last Thursday at 12:03 PM|
I like the fact that he's having to give it away free, like a WHORE.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||Last Thursday at 12:06 PM|
If a man publishes a memoir, but it's really just a podcast that no one is listening to, does it really count as a real book?
|by Anonymous||reply 78||Last Thursday at 12:09 PM|
I so wish Glamorama had been made into a film. It would have been insane.
(and, no, Zoolander doesn't count)
|by Anonymous||reply 79||Last Thursday at 12:12 PM|
So there will be a real and actual book, R75?
|by Anonymous||reply 80||Last Thursday at 1:52 PM|
R76 Not a "sock puppet," just a fan.
You may want to take a look at your own life and figure out why you're such a miserable, bitter old queen.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||Last Thursday at 2:00 PM|
r73 is Bret Easton Ellis.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||Last Thursday at 2:00 PM|
R80 at first he wasn't sure if the story would go beyond the podcast. But in my opinion it's just so great that it almost certainly has to.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||Last Thursday at 2:01 PM|
R82 Wrong. It's me. I'm not Bret Easton Ellis. Thanks for playing.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||Last Thursday at 2:02 PM|
R79 I want to see Glitterati. Mostly to see Kip Pardue's dick.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||Last Thursday at 2:03 PM|
[quote]It's been a fun interactive exercise trying to figure out from his 1982 yearbook exactly which students he's writing about.
That is SO not Datalounge, dear.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||Last Thursday at 2:41 PM|
Is he still cute? Is he out now?
|by Anonymous||reply 88||Last Thursday at 3:19 PM|
OP, R81, aka Sock Puppet, aka every other post in this thread:
You may want to take a look at your own sad tiny life and figure out why you're shilling such a fat ugly over-praised has-been suck-ass rightwing asshole author, cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||Last Thursday at 4:00 PM|
[quote] Why do people on the left always have to signal their political purity before they say anything?
Because he’s a hateful odious fuck and people don’t want to be seen endorsing this pos who hates gay people.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||Last Thursday at 4:15 PM|
He’s pushing 300 lbs now. Sad. He’ll drop dead of a heart attack before you know it.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||Last Thursday at 4:17 PM|
R89 I know why. Because I enjoy his work, and I thought others on here might enjoy it as well.
Why does this bother you so much?
|by Anonymous||reply 92||Last Thursday at 4:36 PM|
R65 I'm guessing you've never taken a satisfactory bowel movement.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||Last Thursday at 4:52 PM|
Au contraire, R93. I was taking one while I typed that post.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||Last Thursday at 5:03 PM|
I get him and the guy who wrote Fight Club mixed up.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||Last Thursday at 8:28 PM|
I get him and breast cancerous Meatloaf from Fight Club: The Movie mixed up.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||Last Thursday at 8:45 PM|
that's chuck palahniuk R95
actually WHET chuck palahniuk? i thought he was writer-hot when he first started
|by Anonymous||reply 97||Last Thursday at 8:45 PM|
I read this as The Sharts and now I can't unsee it. Forgive me. I do like his writing even if he gets insufferable about politics.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||Last Thursday at 8:46 PM|
Bret murdered me........several times. My last wordd to him were "You wouldn't know a good third act if it fuvked you in the ass.....again"
|by Anonymous||reply 99||Last Thursday at 8:53 PM|
Bret’s “boyfriend” makes this so much more complicated. Addicted to meth/coke/etx? ...and bipolar at the least, so messy. On the podcast, Bret says his “boyfriend” is often fucked by random guys and listening to that is ok, but not hot. How could hearing your “boyfriend” being railed by some Grindr guy not be titillating up if you’re into that? So maybe a BJ every month or two works for them? Anyone who follows the “millennial” knows what a disastrous nightmare he lives. What a mess.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||Last Thursday at 9:24 PM|
If he’s gay and anywhere near as good as some of you say, I say yay for Brett 👏👏👏 which film should I watch? I don't read much these days.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||Last Thursday at 10:15 PM|
Forget about the boyfriend, forget about the funny joke about the title. Listen to it. It's really compelling.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||Last Friday at 1:26 AM|
I am a listener and reader... maybe even a “fan” until recently... but this wild obsession displayed in this thread does neither Bret nor yourself any favors.
Yes, The Shards is good, thus far.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||Last Friday at 1:55 AM|
Why is it a "wild obsession?" I made a thread about it, and I've addressed some concerns and questions people may have about it.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||Last Friday at 2:16 AM|
R104 I'm not sure you're really cut out for DL, doll.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||Last Friday at 4:55 AM|
OP proves his taste in lit is shitty, as he's doing a hard sell for one single book that isn't even a book. He's like a Mor(m)on who won't stop ringing your doorbell.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||Last Friday at 8:42 AM|
I'm a huge BEE fan but OP is just embarrassing.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||Last Friday at 8:43 AM|
When is a book not a book?
|by Anonymous||reply 108||Last Friday at 8:46 AM|
American Psycho is the only mildly interesting thing he's done, and all I could think reading it was what a missed opportunity it was.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||Last Friday at 9:21 AM|
It's curious, i hate the guy but he is entertainning for sure.
He, not his novels. His novels are boring as hell and the writting is plain. I know his fans think he is a genius ignored because he is not a leftist and no, he is pretty bad. He had his days at the sun (from todays perspective is difficult to understand all the fuss with Less than Zero and American Psycho) and was very popular but that was ages ago.
Right now he is known for his beef on twitter and for being friends with Donna Tartt
|by Anonymous||reply 110||Last Friday at 9:31 AM|
R106 Huh? I came in here to recommend a thing I like. You shit all over it without having heard it. I point out what a bitter, nasty queen you are, and your strategy shifts to say I'm weird for posting about a thing I like.
Get help, R106.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||Last Friday at 11:22 AM|
He has got to know everyone is going to call it “The Sharts.”
|by Anonymous||reply 112||Last Friday at 11:42 AM|
[quote] I'm weird for posting about a thing I like.
Not weird, tiresome OP; tedious, repetitive, banal, clueless, vapid, a dullard and shill-istic.
This is DL, newb, not 4th Grade Show & Tell.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||Last Friday at 3:32 PM|