I will be watching Sex and The City for the first time. For those of you've that watched it, tell me if you enjoyed it. Has it stood the test of time or will watching it now seem dated? Is there anyone else who has never seen it before?
Watching Sex and the City for the first time
|by Anonymous||reply 286||a day ago|
It's a great show to hatewatch. And make fun of Carrie Bradshaw's character.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||04/04/2021|
I really enjoyed it but it’s very dated.
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|by Anonymous||reply 4||04/04/2021|
Why are you replying? This user has posted this same thread more than once over the past year. They’re always watching this “for the first time” yet always all over any and every other SATC thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||04/04/2021|
R5 You're wrong there. This is the first time I've ever posted such a thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||04/04/2021|
R6. No. I’m not wrong. And I’m embarrassed for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||04/04/2021|
R7 I don't give a shit. Go fuck off, you nasty old queen.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||04/04/2021|
I thought it was terrible when I first watched it and then I adapted to the style and sensibility and I enjoyed it. I think the pop culture zeitgeist of it was a big part of its appeal, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||04/04/2021|
R8 nope. Stop with the fake threads and lying and psychotic behavior. Who keeps pretending to see the same show for the first time over and over?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||04/04/2021|
I recall seeing Sarah Jessica Parker on the cover of every magazine and wondered why everyone though she was so beautiful. I imagine it had a lot to do with this show.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||04/04/2021|
There are some shows that were on at that time that still feel relevant today like Oz. SATC Is an early 2000s time capsule.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||04/04/2021|
And then you use other accounts you have to comment on your own thread where you’re lying about watching it for the first time (AGAIN).
|by Anonymous||reply 13||04/04/2021|
R10 Seriously. You're wasting your time. I'm not that person. Furthermore, I don't understand why you (and so many others) feel the need to visit threads you don't like just to post cunty remarks to everyone. This is why DL is on a downward spiral. Now, kindly fuck off.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||04/04/2021|
For Gods sake please don’t watch the edited episodes that air on E! It’s SATC Light.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||04/04/2021|
SJP was amazing in this series, and just like her Carrie, she continues to be a fashion icon. People say that Carrie was so self-absorbed but I never saw that. She was always there for her friends, whether it was Samantha going through cancer, or Miranda trying to adjust to domesticity. And don't forget, she was really good friends with Stanford, and even tried to fix him up with Mario Cantone's character.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||04/04/2021|
R13 Feel free to prove me wrong. I have never posted a similar thread and I have not account. Not a subscriber.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||04/04/2021|
no one ever watch that show sober. They even tell you to drink watch it.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||04/04/2021|
R15 a neighbor is moving and has given me her complete series DVD set (among other DVDs). I'm assuming these are all unedited.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||04/04/2021|
I plan on watching the 2 DVDs of the movies as well. Did anyone here actually go see these when they played in a theater?
|by Anonymous||reply 20||04/04/2021|
"Lawrence of My Labia". Stellar writing!
|by Anonymous||reply 21||04/04/2021|
Using his accounts to speak to himself again 😂😂😂
|by Anonymous||reply 22||04/04/2021|
I thought the first movie was bad and didn’t finish it so I’ve never even bothered with the second. I was tempted to watch it for this scene
|by Anonymous||reply 23||04/04/2021|
What a troll post. If you’ve been on here any length of time, you’d know there are numerous threads about this show and the actors.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||04/04/2021|
Hell, I’m new here and I’m not even buying the ‘not a subscriber’ schtick one bit. I was never allowed to comment let alone post before subscribing.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||04/04/2021|
I tried to watch it but after a few minutes I thought "This is shit" and never watched it again. It was a scene where the Kim Cattrall character is in a restaurant with Carrie and spies a blonde waiter. Carrie goes into a back area in the restaurant to talk to somebody and lo and behold Cattrall and the waiter are back there too, humping. I heard that was typical, Kim Cattrall getting fucked in every episode. How lame.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||04/04/2021|
I love how nearly any topic can bring out the rage in poster son dl
|by Anonymous||reply 27||04/04/2021|
The first movie was a SATC fans wet dream. I actually liked it. The second one was a disgrace and made me understand why Kim washed her hands of the whole thing.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||04/04/2021|
[quote] I was never allowed to comment let alone post before subscribing.
Then you're a sucker.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||04/04/2021|
and I'm hoping there is a lot of male nudity on the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||04/04/2021|
I've often wondered why everyone thought SJP was so beautiful. While I give her credit for saying her nose and the wart on her chin are her legacy, I'd never find her beautiful.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||04/04/2021|
She's a beautiful and a fashionista. It's easy to see why all those hot guys went ape shit over Carrie.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||04/04/2021|
You have to love the OCD Dataloungers who think that threads about one of the most popular shows in history couldn’t possibly be from multiple posters. Especially considering it is on the just launched HBO streaming app.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/04/2021|
I read somewhere that the show was written almost entirely by gay men.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||04/04/2021|
OMG OMG OMG. I'm a total Carrie, I admit it! But there's also a naughty Samantha part of me, and there is some Charlotte in me who wants the prince charming and the mcmansion in Greenwich. I am not a Miranda. Repeat, I am not a Miranda.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||04/04/2021|
I watched a good portion of it but I have never had the desire to catch up on what I had missed or rewatch what I had already viewed.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||04/04/2021|
R34 and the reboot is being written by a group of woke diverse young women so it’s going to be a fucking hoot!
|by Anonymous||reply 37||04/04/2021|
I think SJP carried the show (yuk yuk) because she wasn't beautiful. She was tall (and seemed comfortable with it), had great legs, dressed provocatively but not in an overtly slutty way and seemed approachable to men/relatable to women because she wasn't model-gorgeous.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||04/04/2021|
Eaychbit OP and report back. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts. I actually read and enjoyed the column in the New York Observer in the 1990s before it was made into the series. BTW how old are you?
|by Anonymous||reply 39||04/04/2021|
Watch it, I meant to type.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||04/04/2021|
I watched it & enjoyed back when it was on (I started late, about 2 yrs in but caught up on reruns), will watch the reboot, but don’t feel the need to rewatch anything. I loved Miranda the best; Samantha was very one-note; Charlotte was the rose nylund; Carrie kinda got on my nerves, & i for one hated her chemistry with Big!
|by Anonymous||reply 41||04/04/2021|
Hot young guys all over NYC couldn't wait to stick their dicks in Sarah Jessica Parker. An in-their-prime John Corbett, Chris Noth and Ron Livingston fell totally madly in love with her and just couldn't stop fucking her.
I've always viewed this show as science fiction.
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|by Anonymous||reply 43||04/04/2021|
I tried watching it a couple of months ago and made it to the middle of season two. I thought Carrie was really shallow, Charlotte was very naive for a woman in her 30s, Miranda was unpleasant and Big was a dismissive, smarmy cunt. Carrie was purely attracted to his money and status right?
|by Anonymous||reply 44||04/04/2021|
Lots of male actors were on it before they were known and/or famous. I also loved the Samantha character.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||04/04/2021|
I knew Cynthia Nixon was a dyke before even she did. From day one of SATC I thought "who's that dyke?"
|by Anonymous||reply 46||04/04/2021|
Just for a little refresher, this was a young Ron Livingston. JFC. Come on. He was GORGEOUS.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||04/04/2021|
It's aged like milk. Samantha now comes off like a creepy predator. Not for one second do you believe the ginger dyke wants dick. And as if Carrie can afford her own Manhattan apartment with her shit excuse of a job.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||04/04/2021|
I'm a Miranda with a Samantha rising.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||04/04/2021|
Stop after the third or fourth season, OP. It's entirely downhill from that point and by the time you get to the Ron Livingston episodes with SJP having a hysterical breakdown because her writer boyfriend wrote a character who was a New Yorker wearing a scrunchie, you find yourself wishing this foursome had been out servicing their johns in the WTC on the morning of 9/11.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||04/04/2021|
Like [italic]Friends, Seinfeld, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and many others,[/italic] SATC seemed to exist in a world without Black people.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||04/04/2021|
Watched it 20 years ago and some episodes were good. It does not hold up at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||04/04/2021|
Just don't think it's a documentary over how people live(d) in NY or anyplace else.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||04/04/2021|
Lol r50. What straight male writer would have included that scrunchie detail in the first place? Also funny because scrunchies are now “in” again.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||04/04/2021|
Friday The 13th, Part VIII: Skeletor Takes Manhattan
|by Anonymous||reply 55||04/05/2021|
Responsible for turning an entire generation of women into vapid whores.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||04/05/2021|
A big part of its appeal was identifying with one primary character and chattering with friends about it--very much like the astrology reference above.
The show seemed really stupid and shallow in a lot of ways but one strength was that all the characters were more flawed than not. They all excelled at something and otherwise were just big messes. Carrie was supposedly a good (or at least popular) writer and otherwise her life was a total mess--writing about the messiness was her job. (The rates she was paid were preposterous, though.) Charlotte was a Keeping Up Appearances type and her perfection was her flaw, which was what made her obviously the least interesting. Miranda was smart and confident in everything except relationships, and Samantha was the breakout star because she was the always-vulgar one but also because whe rejected all social norms except the most superficial ones. So the show was good at characterization at least in the sense that people identified with the vulnerable aspects of the characters who were all "successful" professionally.
The City was also a character, and that may be the most precious time-capsule aspect of the show to me. When SATC aired, New York City was still that aspirational New York that threw together scrappy creative people with all the trendy prototypes and excessive wealth. Now it's an unaffordable and relatively uninteresting place compared with what it was when SATC aired. Oil oligarchs from Russia and the Middle East didn't buy up half the real estate and Carrie's apartment was close to realistic, whereas now it seems a person on her means would have to sleep standing up in a roach motel to afford to live in New York.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||04/05/2021|
[quote] Like Friends, Seinfeld, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and many others, SATC seemed to exist in a world without Black people
If you’re answering honestly, just how many black people would be in the social circles those four women were part of? Assuming you have similar white straight female friends, how many of them have close, Black friends?
|by Anonymous||reply 58||04/05/2021|
12% Population! 99% Representation! NOW!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 59||04/05/2021|
Re missing black people, here is what I don't get:
1. SATC, Seinfeld, Friends, et al. were fictional television shows that were filmed in Los Angeles on sound stages, not actually in NYC.
2. All those shows are more than 20 years old, before the notion of realistic demographic representation was a mainstream nationwide consideration.
1 and 2 are not great excuses for overlooking the unrealistic whitewashing of depicting NYC, BUT...
3. The Real Housewives of NYC and Beverly Hills are supposedly "real," they all are taped on location in two of the most diverse city/counties in the country, and they've both been entirely whitewashed until the most recent Beverly Hills season. NYC is the most glaring example, featuring only white women (and one half-Asian woman), and black people being seen only as service workers in fleeting moments. Real Housewives of NYC even showed a woman wearing an afro wig and brown face makeup as a joke just a few years ago.
Yet white-only reality shows that are produced in NYC, LA and other very diverse areas never seem to be criticized. Instead, people obsess over fictional depictions from 20-30 years ago. This seems so weird to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||04/05/2021|
Uh SATC was filmed entirely in nyc.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||04/05/2021|
R60 is a woke Twitter revisionist
|by Anonymous||reply 62||04/05/2021|
R58 I don't think that defense holds much water because in all the shows mentioned, many scenes took place in public spaces. In a city like NYC, even if you somehow maintain an entirely white circle of friends, you're still interacting in public places that are extremely diverse in all ways. Seinfeld interestingly included a good number of Middle Eastern sidekick characters and occasional Asian ones, but black people largely didn't exist in Seinfeld's New York. The only one I can think of is the lawyer.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||04/05/2021|
So we’re supposed to measure the percentage of race represented on every show but never look at actual population statistics? Got it.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||04/05/2021|
Was it, R61? Huh. I'd have to go back and watch but if it was and if there aren't a lot of people of color at the very least used as extras, then that would seem like intentional exclusion.
Even so, the show is a relic at this point and we may as well be chastising Lucille Ball for not casting Fred and Ethal as a black couple. Energy would be better spent improving what is being done now.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||04/05/2021|
The show was set in a fictional universe where someone would dump Blair Underwood (Dr. Robert) for that whiny, unattractive bitch Steve.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||04/05/2021|
Honey, did you see the body on "whiny, unattractive bitch Steve."?
|by Anonymous||reply 67||04/05/2021|
R66. Right?! Blair was the perfect boyfriend and she dumped him for that brat who later cheated on her because he wasn’t getting enough attention because she was working her ass off to pay for the house in Brooklyn that he wanted. Bitch got what she deserved.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||04/05/2021|
R67. Did you see the body on Blair Underwood?
|by Anonymous||reply 69||04/05/2021|
SPOILERS follow, in response to the Blair Underwood comments.
Guys, the whole dramatic tension of the entire series (as archaic as it now seems) is that good, stable relationships with good guys were out of reach for all the women, despite their differences, and primarily because all the women made all the wrong choices. And the ultimate happy ending for all of them was that they found some kind of stability.
Carrie was in a self-destructive, volatile relationship with "Big," and ultimately (in the series), the volatility settled and their rocky relationship reached an equilibrium. She blew through a lot of good and bad guys on the way. I *think* that Aidan (who the public ended up hating) and then Baryshnikov were meant to come across to viewers as "Mr. Perfect" for Carrie, as compared with Mr. Big, who was bad for her, so that viewers' expectations of who would end up being perfect for her would be overturned, but the public overall wanted her to be with Mr. Big the whole time, and so there really wasn't any perceived growth of Carrie's character. She and Big just resisted one another all along when they were meant to be together.
Miranda had a good guy available to her but she rejected him and treated him poorly, not wanting to settle, and she eventually ended up with the guy who was right for her (Steve) rather than the guy who was the best on paper (Blair Underwood). This paralleled her type-AAA lawyer-ness learning to chill out over time. That was her character growth. Blair Underwood would have slotted into the "living-by-checklists" Miranda before her personal evolution. Steve slotted into her "more-human-and-less-ambition" evolution.
Charlotte had the same journey, which paled in comparison to Miranda's, because who cared about Charlotte? But she was with the guy who was presented perfectly and had money, etc., and he turned out to be such a dud that she realized she loved a slimy, sloppy guy who was entirely wrong for her but who inexplicably turned her on.
And Samantha's personal growth was that she started off independent but still seeking male companionship and in the end she realized she was really happiest as her own companion.
All the women spent the whole series dreaming about finding Mr. Perfect and for all of them, their Mr. Perfect was all wrong on paper but somehow perfect for them. It's an obvious moral of the overall story, and if
|by Anonymous||reply 70||04/05/2021|
R67 uh I hope you’re joking.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||04/05/2021|
Do you think SJP was jealous that they gave Blair Underwood to Cynthia, while she was stuck with musty old Baryshnikov?
|by Anonymous||reply 72||04/05/2021|
I grew up watching black movies and tv shows and there were hardly any white people in them. But it never bothered me because I’m not a whiny gen z lazy loser.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||04/05/2021|
Watching SATC today would probably be hilarious given how much of the show would probably be cancelled as insensitive and phobic of some stripe.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||04/05/2021|
Is the you-started-other-threads troll here?
I got zonked by one who claimed it was easy to prove (except it was not true).
At least the threads I was accused of starting existed.
Now the troll is claiming there are other threads about watching SaTC for the first time. But there are not any that you can find by searching.
Do they exist?
|by Anonymous||reply 75||04/05/2021|
SATC would definitely never get away with the tranny hooker episode in the current climate. The writers and Kim Cattrall would all get canceled for lines like "chicks with dicks, boobs on top, balls down below".
|by Anonymous||reply 76||04/05/2021|
How would SATC hold up to the MeToo movement?
|by Anonymous||reply 77||04/05/2021|
A tv show with an all-white cast would seem strange today.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||04/05/2021|
Almost prehistoric, R78!
|by Anonymous||reply 79||04/05/2021|
R38 - it's common knowledge (if you do the research) that SJP is petite, not "tall" - come on! That was a sloppy lie and easy to counter.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||04/05/2021|
Like every long-running show, it had good moments and bad. It was at its best when it was talking about sex frankly and showcasing the friendship between the women. It once flirted with brilliance during the Carrie/Big/Natasha triangle. I loved the way they handled that and the show seemed to have no issue making Carrie look like a crazy, insecure stalker who couldn't let him go. I thought that was brave for both the show and SJP. If they'd left the Big relationship there and maybe brought him back as a temptation for Carrie one last time, it would have been great, but they kept bringing him back and fucking up every potentially stable relationship for her.
Since Chris Noth has said he's not returning for the reboot and the original script for Sex and the City 3 had his character dying and Carrie forced to deal with it, I hope they use that in the reboot series. It could be a great moment for her character after a few seasons and two movies where they depicted her as charming, kooky, fashionable, and flawless without any of that relatable grit and desperation from the first three seasons. Make her go through life without a man and maybe realize Big wasn't the one for her and that it's not too late to find true love.
|by Anonymous||reply 81||04/05/2021|
Are you sure the Sex and the City reboot is going to have an all new "woke" cast? It looks like it's just a continuation of the same.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||04/05/2021|
Nowadays, I couldn't help but wonder, would Miranda flashing her ginger tits at a gay man be considered a hate crime?
|by Anonymous||reply 83||04/05/2021|
I remember the gay men I knew who were fans claiming the show was really about 4 gay men and that the themes and situations were much more relevant to gay men than straight women. This was supposedly the appeal to gay male fans of the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||04/05/2021|
During SATC's original run I was in my 20s and living in NYC and really liked it. Now that I'm so much older and with the passage of time and all of the insane shit that's happened over the past 20 years, it rings very shallow and superficial to me. I guess I've just grown up and moved on but if I catch a clip of the show now I find it frivolous and annoying and I can't believe I was so into it all those years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||04/05/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 86||04/05/2021|
Who cares R5? I'd rather read another SATC thread than another ridiculous Markle and Harry thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||04/05/2021|
I rewatched the whole series a few years ago and it really falls apart around season 4. The first three seasons are still pretty solid with a few cringeworthy moments like the whole bisexual episode.
It's like the budget got higher on season 4 which came with more cooks in the kitchen and it didn't work as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||04/05/2021|
It became more of a soap opera by the 4th season. I can see why it had immense appeal to straight women and gay men.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||04/05/2021|
R88 SJP became Producer in season 4..
|by Anonymous||reply 90||04/05/2021|
Why did they do away with the "people on the street" offering their opinions on sex and dating?
|by Anonymous||reply 91||04/05/2021|
Because it was gimmicky and didn't age well.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||04/05/2021|
If you even met the real Candace Bushnell, you'd thank Darren and SJP for making Carrie relatively smarter, less shallow, and nicer (starting from the very lowest bar).
|by Anonymous||reply 93||04/05/2021|
Do tell R93
|by Anonymous||reply 94||04/05/2021|
I loved the ratty fur coat Carrie wore in the first two seasons. She looked like a teen dressing in mommy’s clothes and it was endearing.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||04/05/2021|
R95, yes, that was part of the charm of the show in the early days. Carrie was a stunted teenage girl on the inside and it was endearing for a season or two until it became clear that she was incapable of change and it became a little sad.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||04/05/2021|
R80, but I didn't do the research. I've never seen the show. I'm just giving my impression of what its appeal seemed to be.
SJP is short? She always looked tall in photos to me, probably because she was so thin.
Live and learn.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||04/05/2021|
first season barely counts. watch if you want to but dont bail if you find it boring.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||04/05/2021|
Whoever claimed that there were no black people in the background scenes in SATC is lying. SATC was representative of the demographic that Carrie and her friends move in and even in a place like Manhattan there are circles that are almost entirely white.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||04/05/2021|
[quote]it's common knowledge (if you do the research)
Honey, do you know what "common knowledge" is?? It is not something that requires research BY DEFINITION.
Also, you're talking about the physical height of a washed up TV actress who is pushing 60, not the temperature at which water freezes.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||04/06/2021|
It took me a while before I realized that Cynthia Nixon was the same actress who played the hippy girl in the movies 'Little Darlings" (which also starred fellow lesbian, Kristy McNichol.)
|by Anonymous||reply 101||04/06/2021|
For kicks, I watched a few season 1 episodes the other night on amazon. In one episode, three characters (two men and 1 woman) on five different occasions told Carrie how beautiful she was. In another, the gorgeous and hot Samantha flirts with Big before he and Carrie started dating, yet he is more interested in Carrie! This show did not in any way mirror real life.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||04/06/2021|
Samantha was a little aggressive with Big and that may have turned him off. If she had played the bimbo card he would have fucked her.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||04/06/2021|
A man like Big couldn't have handled Samantha. She wouldn't have fallen for his bullshit. Carrie painted herself as this hardened cynic, but she was just a scared little girl who wanted the richest, most popular kid in school to like her.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||04/06/2021|
R103 is right.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||04/06/2021|
I've often wondered if SJP's "Square Pegs" co-stars were ever jealous that she got this role.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||04/06/2021|
I actually liked Carrie up until she stalked Big at that church and was so obsessive about meeting his mother. Cringeworthy behavior. Miranda should have shut that shit down.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||04/06/2021|
[quote] SJP is short? She always looked tall in photos to me, probably because she was so thin.
Are you fucking blind? Because you just need to watch the show for 5 minutes to see that she’s petite. Hell she’s the shortest of the 4 of them. Are you of the impression the others are Amazon women?
|by Anonymous||reply 108||04/06/2021|
Here she is with Chris Noth. He absolutely towers over her.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||04/06/2021|
Chris Noth's ass and the back of his balls. He's got a big set of low-hangers!
|by Anonymous||reply 110||04/06/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 111||04/07/2021|
That is not Chris Noth!
|by Anonymous||reply 112||04/07/2021|
Did Carrie ever date ANYONE who was equal in the looks department? It seems that all the guys she dated and hooked up with would be totally out of her league IRL. She was at best a 6, and she was hooking up with all these 8's and 9's. It was like a gay man's fantasy come to life.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||04/07/2021|
It most certainly is Chris Noth r112.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||04/07/2021|
I would say Justin Theroux is equal to SJP in looks and he played two of Carrie’s suitors.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||04/07/2021|
Justin Theroux was very handsome back then, way out of SJP's league.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||04/07/2021|
I never thought Berger was that great looking and why did she call him back his last name?
|by Anonymous||reply 117||04/07/2021|
I loved it when Berger broke up with her on a Post-it. She deserved it.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||04/07/2021|
I thought Aiden looked challenged
|by Anonymous||reply 119||04/07/2021|
Season 3 Aiden looked challenged. Season 4 Aiden was hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||04/07/2021|
I fucking LOATHE Ron FUCKING Livingston. As bad as that season was his character flushed that season down the toilet.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||04/07/2021|
Ron Livingston is fucking gorgeous. Him with SJP, talk about a looks-discordant couple. Most of her bf's were hot. WTF did they see in her? Can you imagine if they had given her Jason Lewis as a romantic interest? That would've been the height of absurdity.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||04/07/2021|
You're blind, R122.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||04/07/2021|
Damn you bitches are tough. Even Ron Livingston doesn't pass muster with you? I mean, sure, he was no IG underwear model/whore with 8-pack abs, but he is objectively very attractive. I don't think many people, male or female, would turn him down.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||04/07/2021|
Ron Livingston was hot AF back then.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||04/07/2021|
R122, my mother would always swoon when Ron would show up on screen. She rarely comments about a man being really handsome, but she would say that about him quite a bit, also Nathan Fillion. I agree with most people here, Sjp isn’t a beauty & almost all the guys she dated were way better looking, it was pretty unrealistic.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||04/08/2021|
A little off-topic, but were the producers or anyone tied to the show also tied to the film "The Broken Hearts Club"? Was rewatching SATC season 1, and no less than three actors from the film appear...Tim Olyphant, Ben Weber, and Justin Theroux.
|by Anonymous||reply 127||04/08/2021|
It’s too bad Skipper just disappeared after Season 2. He made a much more interesting male friend than stereotyped Stanny.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||04/08/2021|
In every episode, someone is telling Carrie how beautiful she is. It's a bit much.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||04/08/2021|
[quote]Even Ron Livingston doesn't pass muster with you?
"Even"? Please. He's disgusting.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||04/08/2021|
The most cringe-worthy moment in the whole series was when Miranda grabbed Charlotte's vibrator (which was inside her pussy only minutes before that) and threw it into her purse just like that. What kind of a person does something like that?!
|by Anonymous||reply 131||04/08/2021|
Even more cringeworthy than when Carrie was asked to be an underwear model in a fashion show?
|by Anonymous||reply 132||04/08/2021|
R131, what about the time Carrie's diaphragm got stuck down there and Samantha had to plunge her fingers in to extract it?
|by Anonymous||reply 133||04/08/2021|
R133 I never understood why a woman wouldn't be able to fish out her own diaphragm?
R133 technically it was a models & real people event and Carrie made a comment she was under no illusion which one she was.
There was even a season 1 episode where she commented how many model like women were in NY and how could they compete?
As others have commented in previous threads, early Carrie was pretty, good body, nice tits and blonde hair. Plus a minor celeb who was apparently funny. What's not to get?
|by Anonymous||reply 134||04/08/2021|
I'm such a Charlotte. I want the perfect husband and the tasteful mcmansion in Greenwich.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||04/08/2021|
The diaphragm thing was just a super lame plot device to turn attention back to Carrie (because the girls had to ask her who she was fucking when they learned she was using it and that started a whole lot of drama). But at least Samantha (presumably) washed her hands after getting that thing out. But Miranda just threw that vibrator, which must have been still dripping with Charlotte's pussy juices, into her purse and had that thing rub all against the stuff she was carrying in it.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||04/08/2021|
Miranda should have chucked the vibrator out the window like Charlotte did with her getting-over-divorce self-help book!
|by Anonymous||reply 137||04/09/2021|
Carrie=combination of all three
|by Anonymous||reply 138||04/09/2021|
From a gay man's POV, inane.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||04/10/2021|
[quote] But Miranda just threw that vibrator, which must have been still dripping with Charlotte's pussy juices, into her purse and had that thing rub all against the stuff she was carrying in it.
Who knows what Miranda did with the vibrator after she returned home? There was always lesboerotic subtext in the interaction between butch Miranda and prissy WASPY princess Charlotte.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||04/11/2021|
Miranda also ate from the trashcan.
Lawyer by day, pig by night.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||04/11/2021|
Miranda was so unlikeable. The character was mostly unbearable.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||04/11/2021|
IRL do women as extremely attractive as Samantha hang out with homely women like Carrie and Miranda?
|by Anonymous||reply 143||04/11/2021|
R143 I never hang out with women prettier than me.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||04/11/2021|
Dear God, R144, is that from a reboot of The Witches of Eastwick or Hocus Pocus?
|by Anonymous||reply 145||04/11/2021|
Miranda evolved more than any of the other women. And it was 100% believable.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||04/11/2021|
Remember that fugly guy Miranda dated who took a shite with the bathroom door open? I was so disgusted I stopped watching for 4 weeks!
|by Anonymous||reply 147||04/11/2021|
I had a bf who came into the bathroom and shit while I was in the shower. That was a deal breaker.
|by Anonymous||reply 148||04/11/2021|
I'm drunk Charlotte
|by Anonymous||reply 149||04/11/2021|
[quote]Miranda also ate from the trashcan
And she hd her ass eaten.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||04/11/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 151||04/11/2021|
[quote]Like Friends, Seinfeld, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and many others, SATC seemed to exist in a world without Black people
The circles these women moved in were extremely white. For example, they spent a lot of times in chichi bars. You could walk into a chichi "upscale" bar in Manhattan back then and it would literally be nothing but white people. Even in NYC in the 2000s there were places that were nothing but whites everywhere you looked. It wasn't far-fetched at all to see that represented on the show.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||04/11/2021|
I lived in NYC while the show was shot.
Even then the lack of color was noticeable. The chichi upscale bars were not "all-white," at least not in Manhattan.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||04/11/2021|
^^^^ and this includes places that were used as locations in the show!
|by Anonymous||reply 154||04/11/2021|
no, it doesn't hold up IMHO;
Carrie's a selfish shrew who committed adultery and dumped the same guy, who loved her, twice.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||04/11/2021|
[quote]Even then the lack of color was noticeable. The chichi upscale bars were not "all-white," at least not in Manhattan.
Bullshit. I was also there and there were places where you did not see a non-white face.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||04/11/2021|
SJP is a beautiful, stylish woman, so it was not a stretch to have other characters constantly refer to her as beautiful or stunning. Honestly, I think gay men are so used to judging female beauty based on OTT drag queens, that they are unable to notice a truly beautiful woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 157||04/11/2021|
Sarah Jessica Parker is very, very short. 5'2", but with 5 inch heels, 5'7".
|by Anonymous||reply 158||04/11/2021|
Love this. Classic. Now in HD on HBO Max.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||04/11/2021|
[quote] Stop after the third or fourth season, OP. It's entirely downhill from that point and by the time you get to the Ron Livingston episodes with SJP having a hysterical breakdown because her writer boyfriend wrote a character who was a New Yorker wearing a scrunchie, you find yourself wishing this foursome had been out servicing their johns in the WTC on the morning of 9/11.
I just watched my first episode and enjoyed it. I like Carrie so far and hated Miranda immediately. I couldn't help but think of that photo of Chris Noth with his balls hanging from the back when he came on. Looking forward to watching more. I like the music too.
Also I can see why some of the women at the office of my old job seemed sexually aggressive at the time this show was a hit. I don't think it would fly during the #metoo era we're living in.
at what point do I watch the movie? I know it came out later on.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||04/11/2021|
I thought Carrie was pretty. She didn’t look like a model and had flaws but seemed comfortable in her own skin which is sexy.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||04/11/2021|
The SJP/Kim feud breaks my heart. They seemed to close and friendly, that it's just been heartbreaking to watch their friendship crash to a bitter end. Watching their scenes in the reruns is just bittersweet, and sometimes I dissolve into a mess of tears thinking about what was lost.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||04/11/2021|
The show was interesting at the point where they let Carrie become the "villain." When she cheated with Big behind his wifes back, had to take her to the hospital, and then had her call bullshit when Carrie asked for forgiveness--that was some of the most shocking, compelling and complex writing in the series.
Then it moved on to romantic fantasy and became unwatchable.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||04/11/2021|
[quote] Is there anyone else who has never seen it before?
Me and all my friends. I have no interest in watching annoying women talk about men and sex all day, I already have to ditch these types at work, I can't imagine sitting through it at home, let alone enjoy that.
For a board as misogynistic as this one, I'm surprised anyone would waste their time watching this.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||04/11/2021|
Misogynistic? I would say that people just get called on their shit, and if that includes women so be it.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||04/11/2021|
I've seen about three episodes and in every one Carrie's voice over made the comment "Someone once said". I have a feeling she said it more than that.
I found her character to be extremely self-centered and obnoxious. The rest of the cast seemed okay. Would have fucked Big (asshole that he was).
|by Anonymous||reply 166||04/11/2021|
Am I the only one who doesn't find Chris Noth that attractive? There's something "soft" about his face that does nothing for me. Now give me a Chris Meloni!
|by Anonymous||reply 167||04/11/2021|
Umm, R162 I hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise, MAAAAAARRRYYYYY!
|by Anonymous||reply 168||04/11/2021|
I know SJP once said "My nose if my legacy. Why would I ever change it?", but she should have gotten that wart on her chin burned off before "Sex and the City." It's very distracting and makes her look like a witch.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||04/12/2021|
There was something very sexy about SJP in the 90s and especially in the first two seasons of SATC. I never doubted for a second that hot men were drawn to her. And by the time the series was over the best she could get was Petrovsky and she knew it.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||04/12/2021|
I actually enjoyed the series on HBO. But, the first movie killed it for me. The second movie buried it and gave me complete closure. I could never watch it again.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||04/12/2021|
All they ever did was whine about their sex lives and behave like little whores, fucking every hot guy in sight. It's a miracle none of them ever contracted an STD. In the real world in the 90s, Samantha would've been POZ.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||04/12/2021|
R163, yeah, that was raw stuff, but did Carrie learn from it?
I didn't see much growth.
And what man would prefer her to Natasha, Bridget Moynihan?
(Cue the Gisele Budchen Tom Brady joke).
|by Anonymous||reply 173||04/12/2021|
Well, Charlotte did get crabs at the Hamptons once.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||04/12/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 175||04/12/2021|
Za Za Zooooooo!
|by Anonymous||reply 176||04/12/2021|
Both Carrie and Samantha had abortions when they were young sluts and Miranda caught chlamydia from Angela Lansbury’s nephew.
|by Anonymous||reply 177||04/12/2021|
Samantha must've been a walking petri dish.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||04/13/2021|
Samantha's cunt was a Biohazard zone. Enter at your own risk.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||04/13/2021|
It's funny how they portrayed the women as sexually aggressive, sex-obsessed whores, but the one poor gay guy, Stanford, was so meek, asexual, and relationship-minded. It was like the opposite of real life.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||04/13/2021|
Samantha did special strengthening exercises to keep her cooch as tight as a duck's arse!
|by Anonymous||reply 181||04/13/2021|
R180 one of the funniest was Stamford meeting an anonymous guy from offline, before apps. The one guy took one look at him, said "NO" and strutted off.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||04/13/2021|
Did we ever figure out why sad, nellie OP keeps posting the same thread over and over?
|by Anonymous||reply 183||04/13/2021|
I hated Carrie when she cheated on Aidan. Hated!! He was the best thing to ever happen to her, and she treated him like sour milk. Aidan deserved so much better!
|by Anonymous||reply 184||04/13/2021|
R182 yes! And the guy who rejected him was no prize himself which made it so true to gay life
|by Anonymous||reply 185||04/13/2021|
The cabin episode showed how shallow and stupid Carrie really was. The cabin was a cute little rustic getaway and she freaked over a squirrel FFS and was such a fucking bitch to Aidan.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||04/13/2021|
You do have to buy the convention that it's a TV show, which came from a column of many stories. The show had to tell all those stories with just those 4 women. Frankly, I'm amazed they did it this well, without it becoming some kind of anthology.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||04/13/2021|
So if Carrie had married Aidan Shaw she would have been Carrie Bradshaw Shaw. Or Carrie Shaw.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM|
[quote] It's funny how they portrayed the women as sexually aggressive, sex-obsessed whores, but the one poor gay guy, Stanford, was so meek, asexual, and relationship-minded. It was like the opposite of real life.
Gay men in the show were absolutely annoying. They were little ugly pets/accessories for the girls.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||Last Wednesday at 3:22 PM|
Natasha was so above Carrie's league in every possible way: looks, career, even emotional intelligence in spite of being 10 years younger than her. Cheating on her with Carrie is kind of like downgrading from an Arabian horse to a mangy donkey. Come to think about it, all exes of the guys she got serious with were way out of her league.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||Last Wednesday at 3:30 PM|
You just know that if SATC were real life, Carrie would've referred to Stanford as "my gay".
|by Anonymous||reply 191||Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM|
Natasha's speech when Carrie crashes Natasha's lunch to apologize was great TV:
"Yes, I'm sorry about it all. I'm sorry that he moved to Paris and fell in love with me. I'm sorry we ever got married. I'm sorry he cheated on me with you, and I'm sorry that I pretended to ignore it for as long as I did. I'm sorry I found you in my apartment, fell down the stairs, and broke my tooth. I'm very sorry that after much painful dental surgery, this tooth is still a different color than this tooth. Finally, I'm very sorry that you felt the need to come down here. Now not only have you ruined my marriage, you've ruined my lunch."
|by Anonymous||reply 192||Last Wednesday at 4:15 PM|
Even though I'm a gay man, I think I know what make straight men tick and what turns them on. Carrie's face was not much, but she had a banging body and gave off a really palpable sexual energy. Straight guys respond more to that than to an asexual Barbie doll like Natasha.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||Last Wednesday at 4:29 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 194||Last Wednesday at 4:31 PM|
I mean you were married to the character played by Carole Bouquet and then you bring Carrie to Paris as the woman you want to live with?
|by Anonymous||reply 195||Last Wednesday at 4:33 PM|
i called it Tits and the Sexies
|by Anonymous||reply 196||Last Wednesday at 4:35 PM|
NYC is still rampant with these types of women trying to live glamorous lives and searching for their investment banker husbands in Brooks Brothers suits on their $40,000/year salaries as junior editors at a publishing house. SATC really ruined a whole generation of women.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||Last Wednesday at 4:36 PM|
[quote] Even though I'm a gay man, I think I know what make straight men tick
No you don't.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||Last Wednesday at 4:49 PM|
Natasha was always dressed in white UNTIL she dumped Big. I hope she got a big fat divorce settlement.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||Last Wednesday at 5:10 PM|
r197 absolutely. It caused hordes of boring basic bitches to move to NYC to do exactly as you described. Also, to treat gay men like pets or animals in a zoo. There were problems with these women in gay bars coming in and "taking over." There was an episode of SATC where the four women did just that, it was pretty offensive. In real life, however, these bitches got shown the door.
SATC and also Friends had a lot of negative consequences for NYC, lots of people who should've stayed in Columbus or Parsippany ended up moving here and the quality of life in the city really suffered.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||Last Wednesday at 5:10 PM|
Remember when she farted in bed with Big then got under the cover to sniff it? Dirty bitch.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||Last Thursday at 1:34 AM|
All these hot guys finding Carrie and Miranda attractive played like a frau's wet dream.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||Last Thursday at 5:31 AM|
Did they ever explain why these women were so sexually compulsive? What is their family backgrounds made them so fucked up? Psychologically healthy people don't fuck anything that moves.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||Last Thursday at 5:44 AM|
I worked with a faux Carrie Bradshaw. Her name was Amanda and she was about 4’11. Always wore seasons 3/4 Carrie inspired outfits including big flowers. Treated her bf like crap. I figured she was obsessed with the show as a teen and was now living her best Carrie life. I hated her.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||Last Thursday at 7:45 AM|
I hated how they just randomly turned up at each others apartments, like in Friends. What if the person had the farts and their apartment stank?
PISS OFF, I'M BUSY!
|by Anonymous||reply 205||Last Thursday at 7:48 AM|
Who the hell shows up at someone's residence unannounced? Outside of immediate family, would anyone just randomly show up without calling/texting first?
|by Anonymous||reply 206||Last Thursday at 7:51 AM|
I just got hbo max and am trying to get through it too. Forget the fantasy element of it, I just find it kind of silly and don't understand how it took off in the first place. It's a cheap cable show and very much seems like it. I'm only up to season 3 and Carrie seems perfectly fine looking to me but I agree she would not be as desirable in real life as she is in the show and would have had an average number of men available to her. I literally just got to the episode where big and Carrie resume their affair. He just HAS to call her because he can't live without her and then tells her I love you???!! Not realistic AT ALL. He maybe would have resumed the affair so he can get an extra fuck in but no way would he be in love with her. She was sexy but not necessarily pretty and definitely not love material to a straight man.
|by Anonymous||reply 207||Last Thursday at 8:40 AM|
No, R203. Little is said about any of their families and no parent ever makes an appearance even at holidays or weddings.
|by Anonymous||reply 208||Last Thursday at 9:22 AM|
Some old guy walked Charlotte down the aisle when she married Trey. I assumed it was her dad. Charlotte’s brother also made an appearance. Sam fucked him. Duh.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||Last Thursday at 10:38 AM|
Never saw it; have no interest in watching it.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||Last Thursday at 10:43 AM|
It was weird that no one from Charlotte's family was at that huge rehearsal dinner or at the wedding. It was all Trey's family. And speaking of Trey's family, we meet his brother and sister-in-law several episodes after the wedding, but they also weren't at the rehearsal dinner or wedding. Major continuity issues!
|by Anonymous||reply 211||Last Thursday at 10:53 AM|
We met Miranda’s sister Betsy at their mothers funeral.
|by Anonymous||reply 212||Last Thursday at 12:02 PM|
Carrie grew up on a farm in Kentucky
|by Anonymous||reply 213||Last Thursday at 12:28 PM|
Really, r213? Which episode was that mentioned in? I vaguely remember something about her absent father or something, but don't ever recall the state she grew up in, much less a farm.
|by Anonymous||reply 214||Last Thursday at 2:31 PM|
Fucking hell r214 you sure are thick as a plank!
|by Anonymous||reply 215||Last Thursday at 2:45 PM|
Darren Star has said that the lack of backstory for the leads was a specific strategy.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||Last Thursday at 2:50 PM|
|by Anonymous||reply 217||Last Thursday at 3:27 PM|
I’m going to have to watch this show again. It’s the television equivalent of potato chips
|by Anonymous||reply 218||Last Thursday at 3:32 PM|
The edited version that airs on E! is terrible.
|by Anonymous||reply 219||Last Thursday at 5:53 PM|
According to a straight married-couple-friends of mine: She loves The Sopranos. He loves: Sex and the City.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||Last Thursday at 6:41 PM|
Well we’ll well..... look who’s coming back for more punishment.
|by Anonymous||reply 221||Last Thursday at 7:59 PM|
Loved it the first time around when I was young. As I got older and watched reruns, I don’t care for it as much. Carrie was so self absorbed it was nauseating.
R221, I’m guessing Carrie and Big are divorced or he’s dead. Aiden is when I started hating her, she treated him like garbage. I guess he’s going to be who she ultimately ends up with.
|by Anonymous||reply 222||Last Thursday at 8:06 PM|
I wish SJW Twitter would bully the writers into forcing Carrie to end up with a trans man. Or as a trans man.
|by Anonymous||reply 223||Last Thursday at 9:50 PM|
How will they explain Samantha's absence?
|by Anonymous||reply 224||Last Friday at 12:36 AM|
They’re going to simply say Samantha has moved on to a new group of friends and doesn’t keep in touch. Just like real life.
|by Anonymous||reply 225||Last Friday at 4:37 AM|
They should have the Samantha character in love, married and living in a big house in Connecticut just for shits and giggles. The life Charlotte wanted.
|by Anonymous||reply 226||Last Friday at 8:30 AM|
^with a horse named Parker!!!!!
|by Anonymous||reply 227||Last Friday at 10:02 AM|
Did Chris Noth refuse to return?
|by Anonymous||reply 228||Last Friday at 10:03 AM|
Noth is being coy about returning. First he said he wasn’t and now hinted he might. It’s already been leaked that Carrie may be a widow in the reboot.
|by Anonymous||reply 229||Last Friday at 10:06 AM|
Another thing that marred the last season and the movies was making all four so wealthy and living lives most people could never afford.
If it's coming back and wants to be in any way relatable they need to tone down the conspicuous consumption.
|by Anonymous||reply 230||Last Friday at 10:20 AM|
Samantha has been cancelled after being outed by that tranny she dumped water on. Carrie and the others dumped her as they didn't want to be vicariously cancelled.
|by Anonymous||reply 231||Last Friday at 10:22 AM|
Noth is on another show now, he may have limited availability.
But who would want to profess enduring love to THIS?
|by Anonymous||reply 232||Last Friday at 12:37 PM|
r227, why would she get a horse named Parker? That seems very random. I know you're trying to say she'd end up like Charlotte, who did in fact love horses, but I couldn't see Samantha naming her horse Parker. She'd probably give it an erotic/sexual name, something like Orgasm or Fellatio. That would make more send for the randy Samantha, I believe.
|by Anonymous||reply 233||Last Friday at 1:11 PM|
Think about it R233.
|by Anonymous||reply 234||Last Friday at 1:13 PM|
It's a travesty Cattrall never won an Emmu for SATC. Like or loathe her but she made what could have been a tired old slut into an iconic character
|by Anonymous||reply 235||Last Friday at 1:19 PM|
R235. She’s in good company
|by Anonymous||reply 236||Last Friday at 1:56 PM|
Rewatching SATC, there really wasn't much of the way of acting going on besides for SJP and maybe Cynthia. They seemed to get the meaningful scenes which required actual acting. Almost every scene with Kim, outside of the cancer story, had her having sex or saying double entendre/innuendo with her "shticky" sexual voice, all in very short snippets that didn't require any acting range.
|by Anonymous||reply 237||Last Friday at 2:18 PM|
In the very first episode Sarah played the character like it was supposed to be played-cynical and sexy. As the episodes progressed she played it more and more like herself-a lady grossed out by crude talk who believes in romance and happily ever after. It's not that she's a bad actress I just think she got lazy. The one who really stood out was Cynthia. She was pretty caustic and cynical too but you saw softer and more complex sides as well. She was an unpleasant character but the most well played and realistic. Kim was one note and Kristin I wouldn't even call an actress. Half the time she looks like she doesn't know what her lines are.
|by Anonymous||reply 238||Last Friday at 3:10 PM|
Charlotte got dumber and more annoying as the series progressed. She’s sexy and smart in the first season then she goes off the rails. By the second movie she’s a moron.
|by Anonymous||reply 239||Last Friday at 3:40 PM|
In real life a pampered WASPY New England princess like Charlotte would never hang out with the likes of super-aggressive Alpha female Miranda, the openly promiscuous Samantha and the trashy social climbing Carrie who writes a sex column.
|by Anonymous||reply 240||Last Friday at 11:10 PM|
Kim was one-note, true, but let's not forget that Emmys have been given out to the likes of the even more one-note (and shrill) Lisa Kudrow, the massively overrated Doris Roberts for a shit performance in an unfunny piece of shit, Patty Heaton, Candace Bergen and Deb Messing. Kim's acting was at least as good as theirs, at least within the "comedy" category.
|by Anonymous||reply 241||Last Friday at 11:16 PM|
Lisa Kudrow has genuine talent, she was brilliant as Valerie Cherish.
|by Anonymous||reply 242||Last Friday at 11:38 PM|
Samantha was not one note, she had lots of great scenes or plots that showed she was a real human, such as:
- Breaking up with Dominic, whom she loved - HIV scare - Disappointed with Carrie judging her - Crying after not getting a job because of her promiscuous reputation - Cancer - shame at cheating on Smith with Richard - portraying the character's softer side when she is there for her friends
|by Anonymous||reply 243||Last Friday at 11:53 PM|
[quote]She’s sexy and smart in the first season then she goes off the rails.
You're fucking HIGH, R239. She looked positively bovine that first season.
|by Anonymous||reply 244||Last Saturday at 5:40 AM|
Couldn't they have hired a hotter and younger actress than Sonja Braga to be Kim's scissor sister? Their relationship was not at all believable.
|by Anonymous||reply 245||Last Saturday at 7:06 AM|
Samantha was the gay guy written by the gay writers for the gay male audience.
The HIV test scene was all of us before Prep in the 90s. And her reaction was how we felt then.
|by Anonymous||reply 246||Last Saturday at 7:15 AM|
I thought so too, R245. Katey Sagal would have been perfect for that role.
|by Anonymous||reply 247||Last Saturday at 8:42 AM|
Another unrealistic aspect of their friendship is that a successful partner in a NYC law firm, such as Miranda, would have (1) the time and (2) the energy to hang around women who spent their time like in a high school cafeteria bitching about their high school girl-like crushes on guys. "Oh, you know, he gave me hydrangeas, I am not sure how to interpret it - is it an act of hostility or affection?" type of talk.
|by Anonymous||reply 248||Last Saturday at 12:49 PM|
Imagine how much Carrie's lttle studio stank when she was a smoker.
|by Anonymous||reply 249||Last Saturday at 1:02 PM|
Imagine the stink after all those cosmos
|by Anonymous||reply 250||Last Saturday at 2:04 PM|
Carrie always smoked in front of an open window, so there's that.
|by Anonymous||reply 251||Last Saturday at 3:50 PM|
I agree about Charlotte. A woman like her would never have the three other woman as close friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 252||Last Saturday at 3:51 PM|
Rewatching season 4 and the quality of the writing really started to tank. The Carrie/Big/Aidan triangle is ludicrous. Samantha and Charlotte/Trey are beyond tedious. Thank god for Miranda who keeps things somewhat interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 253||Last Saturday at 4:04 PM|
Why would a high powered lawyer like Miranda be friends with some dumb loser who writes a sex advice column for a weekly rag?
|by Anonymous||reply 254||Last Saturday at 4:12 PM|
I like all of the characters except for Charlotte. She always seemed pointless and boring.
|by Anonymous||reply 255||Last Saturday at 6:36 PM|
The only thing more boring than Charlotte was Charlotte with Trey. At least Harry was fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 256||Last Saturday at 6:44 PM|
As I sifted through the rubble of my marriage skirmish, I had a thought. Maybe the fight between marrieds and singles is like the war in Northern Ireland. We're all basically the same, but somehow we wound up on different sides.
|by Anonymous||reply 257||Last Saturday at 7:53 PM|
R257 as someone from Northern Ireland, I couldn't help but wonder, why couldn't we have Carrie Bradshaw as our envoy for peace?
|by Anonymous||reply 258||Last Sunday at 12:30 AM|
I'm a Charlotte. Most of you bitches are Carrie (but think you're Samantha.)
|by Anonymous||reply 259||Last Sunday at 12:40 AM|
Big could have had any woman in Manhattan or Brooklyn he wanted. No way in hell was he going to cheat on his wife with the washed up rag doll Carrie.
|by Anonymous||reply 260||Last Sunday at 3:47 AM|
[quote] The only thing more boring than Charlotte was Charlotte with Trey.
Trey looked a bit like kd lang, so it gave Charlotte a vaguely lesbian edge for a bit when she tried to seduce him. That other fake lez storyline they gave her was utter garbage.
How come Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte each got a lez storyline but Carrie always remained hetero?
|by Anonymous||reply 261||Last Sunday at 3:50 AM|
Carrie was a homophobe who freaked out over bisexuality and getting a kiss from a lovely young fille during spin-the-bottle
|by Anonymous||reply 262||Last Sunday at 4:12 AM|
Samantha's pussy took EZ Pass.
|by Anonymous||reply 263||Last Sunday at 4:17 AM|
[quote]getting a kiss from a lovely young fille
It was lucky Alanis who got to kiss Carrie's ashtray mouth
|by Anonymous||reply 264||Last Sunday at 4:20 AM|
R253, on my recent rewatch I noticed exactly the same thing - around season 4 the writing really started to take a nosedive, the characters became broader and more caricature-ish, and Carrie uglier. Suddenly she was less of a sex columnist and more a writer about relationships. The show started becoming more focused on fashion and labels and shallow things like that.
It was around this time SJP became an executive producer, so...
|by Anonymous||reply 265||Last Sunday at 4:34 AM|
As a gay kid in early 2000s, I shamelessly bought season 4 on DVD and devoured it. I think I started watching in season 5. It wasn't til later when TV repeated the first 3 seasons I realised season 2 and 3 were much stronger.
|by Anonymous||reply 266||Last Sunday at 4:37 AM|
Carrie was always way too prudish to write a sex column. Samantha had that nailed.
|by Anonymous||reply 267||Last Sunday at 5:59 AM|
[quote] Carrie was a homophobe who freaked out over bisexuality
I thought that was a fairly realistic reaction from her. Pretty much all of my female friends say they'd never be comfortable dating a bisexual guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 268||Last Sunday at 6:08 AM|
Frances Sternhagen as Bunny was the only redeeming thing about that dull Charlotte/Trey storyline. She stole every scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 269||Last Sunday at 7:21 AM|
One thing I noticed about season 4 was that Carrie was no longer ALWAYS the glue that held the girlfriend scenes together. For example, prior to season 4, you'd almost never get a scene of just Charlotte and Samantha, or just Miranda and Charlotte. Even Miranda and Aidan has a solo scene without Carrie that wasn't about Carrie.
|by Anonymous||reply 270||Last Sunday at 7:44 AM|
I loved Bunny. I loved the line Carrie narrates regarding Bunny's cocktails before dinner starting at 5 and ending with "last man standing"......I like to use that now.
Also, when Charlotte's sister in law blurts out that she saw Charlotte kissing the gardener "now you're a McDougal" with a little flourish of her cocktail.
|by Anonymous||reply 271||Last Sunday at 7:57 AM|
Frances Sternhagen is a sublime actress who always stands out. She’s a treasure.
|by Anonymous||reply 272||Last Sunday at 8:29 AM|
Looking at the writers of the various seasons it looks like Darren Star essentially stepped away after season 3, so perhaps that's why there was a change in tone and character starting in season 4.
|by Anonymous||reply 273||Last Sunday at 8:35 AM|
"I don’t enjoy Mandarin food and I don’t enjoy a Mandarin child.” Bunny McDougal
|by Anonymous||reply 274||Last Sunday at 9:22 AM|
Frances Sternhagen hasn't worked since 2014. Does she have Alzheimer's or something?
|by Anonymous||reply 275||Last Sunday at 9:57 AM|
Darren Star and Michael Patrick King clearly had different ideas of what the show should be. I preferred the early Darren years. It's like chasing between Stephen Sondheim and Andrew Lloyd Webber. One is smarter and more in tune with humanity and all its flaws and the other is loud, brash, occasionally fun but mostly forgettable fluff that always forces a somewhat happy ending even if it's not earned.
|by Anonymous||reply 276||Last Sunday at 10:38 AM|
My favorite exchange involved Bunny, in the episode when they go to the Scottish Society Highland Fling:
Charlotte: "For something called a fling, it sure seems like a lot of work" Bunny (chuckling): "That's what I used to tell Trey about you!"
|by Anonymous||reply 277||Last Sunday at 11:30 AM|
Frances was nominated for a Guest Emmy for SATC but lost to Clitoris Leachman for Malcolm In The Middle
|by Anonymous||reply 278||Last Sunday at 12:21 PM|
The earlier years were smarter, more realistic, and had its pulse better on dating in NYC than the later seasons, which came off as more of a fairy tale with longer arced highly romantic, and mostly tedious, storylines.
|by Anonymous||reply 279||Last Sunday at 1:02 PM|
R278, it's CLORIS, not CLITORIS.
|by Anonymous||reply 280||Last Sunday at 3:58 PM|
R280 bitch, please
|by Anonymous||reply 281||Yesterday at 1:52 PM|
Whose bright idea was it to have SJP cut her hair very late into the 4th season? It aged her about 10 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 282||Yesterday at 3:17 PM|
Will there be lots of nudity in the new series? I hope Kristin and Cynthia insist that Sarah Jessica do all the raunchy sex scenes and full frontal nudity this time.
Please God, please please let her be nude all day on the sets and get it out of her system so that I don't have to put up with her constantly walking around the house with no clothes on.
|by Anonymous||reply 283||Yesterday at 9:43 PM|
I liked it in its time but it hasn’t aged well.
Four privileged white bitchez obsessed with trivial shit and snagging a man.
Carrie especially seems like a vapid whiny cunt.
|by Anonymous||reply 284||a day ago|
What R1 said.
It's 4 lost women doing stupid things. Fun to watch.
|by Anonymous||reply 285||a day ago|
And what R284 said.
|by Anonymous||reply 286||a day ago|