The Nanny is on HBO Max

Where were you the past 30 years, OP?

one of my favorites but I've always liked comedy sketches with a Jewish twist! (looking at your Rhoda)

Niles never made a big deal out of it but at one time he was the skeptical captain of an aircraft carrier.

I always wanted to fist 👊 Mr. Sheffield

we had a guy with last name of Shuffield at my firm. I always found a way to introduce "Oh, Mr. Shuffield"! into the phone conversation (pre cancel culture and he was too timid to tell me to knock if off or he liked it, never knew)

Why is HBO playing junk like this now, they never did this before?

I recently rediscovered The Nanny and love it. Fran Drescher is my favorite streetwise smart-alec schnook. If Fran can’t make you laugh there is no hope!

It is a very old-fashioned sitcom and Fran Drescher is funny despite that voice, but a show like this would get canceled after the very first episode today and be accused of peddling Jewish stereotypes.

The show is pure schlock and very dated (actually, it felt very dated even in the 90s) but the chemistry between Fran Drescher and Charles Shaughnessy made it very watchable.

im 63 and this is the 1st humorless period , culturally, in my life. Will it ever return? including stereotypes and making pokes at others? Even repressive China and Russia had ironic humor but i suppose it had to go "underground"

[quote]The supporting players really make it, Niles, CC, Sylvia, and Val are great.

What about me, OP? Huh? What about me?

Was Mr Sheffield a fantasy character written by Fran's gay ex-husband? A straight, handsome, suave producer of musical theater who remains single for years after his wife's death?

This show is one of the few 90s sitcoms that aged pretty well in my opinion. Fran is hilarious and the supporting cast was great especially C.C. and Niles. The kids were well cast too and unlike other sitcoms, the children never took over the show with nauseatingly cutesy antics.

Brilliant show, for those who find the Golden Girls high-larious.

If there’s no Professor I’m not watching!

If rather hear people talk about The Nanny than that godawful Friends crap.

Why did Fran give up hunky Harry Hamlin to chase the stuffy English prick, Mr Sheffield?

Of course it's available in streaming now that I just bought the whole series on DVD. Of course!

It was just okay. Nothing worth rewatching .

CC is my fav!

I watched my first episode of Gimme a Break on another thread and it was pure drivel, this was just an update with a Jew instead of a Black and a snobby family instead of a blue collar one. Drivel.

Welcome to the 90s OP.

The show was quintessential nineties. It debuted in 1990 and signed off in1999. It even went for the pregnancy formula to add one last year of ratings.

True, r13. Rich, successful and handsome guys like this are usually remarried within a couple of years.

Fran's line reading is hilarious and watch Mr Sheffields face, he is so close to laughing.

Never found actors (almost) breaking character as hilarious as others do.

Like others, I rediscovered it over this past year and remembered just how funny it was. I love Fran and she's a sweetheart in real life (met her once).

R24-WRONG

It debuted in 1993.

[quote]Never found actors (almost) breaking character as hilarious as others do.

He didn't break character.

Did Brits really believe Niles was actually British and Charles Shaughnessy was an American doing a bad British accent?

Looks great, HD and not all stretched out to fit widescreens.

Like many shows of the "will they or won't they" variety, the show jumped the shark once Fran and Maxwell got married. As I recall, that didn't happen until the final season, however, and every season leading up to that has held up beautifully. Job well done.

The younger daughter is still in the business. She is very good at getting nekkid on television.

I binge watched it a couple of years ago and Fran emded up being my least facorite character.

In one episode Fran claims she was in this commercial

OP, The Nanny is one of those rare sitocms that has aged well and seems better NOW than it did then. Season 1 is fine but seasons 2,3,4 and 5 are ten times better.

R31, Shaughnessy received a lot of mail telling him that he should look to Niles to see how to do a 'real' English accent lol.

The kid playing Brighton really did look like he could be Charles Shaughnessy’s son.

[quote] The younger daughter is still in the business. She is very good at getting nekkid on television.

So is the oldest one, who played a whore experimented on in that Masters and Johnson series. She faked a gigantic shivering orgasm (thus rendering the experiments useless) and it was kind of funny to see little Maggie Sheffield “cumming.”

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I love crazy Renee Taylor in this.

I still say that Max and C.C. Had the best wardrobes on television.

Wasn't Daniel Davis rumored to be extremely difficult to work with? If so, that's a shame considering how great he was on the show.

No, that rep came after on Broadway.

[quote]I love crazy Renee Taylor in this.

MY MEDICINE!

The Nanny was hilarious at the start. It was kind of magical. Sitcoms usually take a while to fire on all cylinders. I eventually stopped watching. wonder if it got tired or if it stayed good...

I always loved Lainie Kazan's appearances as Aunt Frieda.

Baby James Marsden in the pilot, as Maggie's first kiss.

I remember discovering the grandmother was Mildred Harper (who was pretty funny on the Dick Van Dyke show as well).

I remember in the later years they had a running bit of wondering why she was still a nanny since the kids were mostly grown up and she did little to no nannying.

CC and Niles were funny together, but they made a mistake having them get together. Not every hate relationship has to have an undercurrent of love-hate desire. The series should probably have ended with them Fran and Maxwell getting married or better yet getting engaged and skipped all of the wedding planning episodes.

If I had met the young James Marsden when I was a teen, he wouldn't have been just my first kiss. He would've been my first marathon fuck session.

I do remember Drescher looking gorgeous in her wedding gown. I’m

[quote] I do remember Drescher looking gorgeous in her wedding gown.

And out of it

Fran Drescher was a babe and the show took many opportunities to show off her figure. She certainly disproved the stereotype that attractive women can't be funny.

I just saw a standup special with different female comics doing sets, and Fran did a set. She was pretty good at standup, and boy does she look good. She’s not THE NANNY size anymore, but she wisely chose FACE over ASS.

I just watched episode with the fabulous Todd Oldham “lifesavers” dress. My favorite Fran look.

Few women have the curves to get away with a dress that duplicates a roll of assorted Lifesavers

[quote] Wasn't Daniel Davis rumored to be extremely difficult to work with?

he ALWAYS has been

Saw Fran Drescher at MoMA about 8 years ago and while she was still dressing like a 90s 30something (Herve Leger bandage dress, "natural" makeup), she was pretty and the body was banging. I smiled at her and she winked back (she was with some ancient looking dude who looked stern and unpleasant).

Surprised she can't find the right vehicle sense; she knows her way around a good punchline.

[quote]I do remember Drescher looking gorgeous in her wedding gown

Meh.

It's such comfort entertainment with the "I Love Lucy" retro vibe.

I think a lot of people underestimate how difficult it is to make a show where you just fall in love with the characters and even accept the few misses here and there in order to keep them around.

One thing I think the show missed was another Sheffield as a regular having to deal with Fran's family to get that class and culture shock dynamic going. They just popped up for one episode and immediately gone the next. CC could have done it, but for some reason she never really got too involved with, or exposed to, Fran's family in a way like sharing actual story lines.

I love one of the later ones where Max finds out he has a sister and she inherits all of the money of Max's dad and Fran and her mom visits the sister and her mom, and it's such a fun scene of both moms sizing each other up and going for the hotel menu.

I thought it was weird there was only one episode with Fran's sister Nadeine. She was never seen again after that and I'm not sure she was ever mentioned.

I think it's a shame that "The Nanny" didn't win any acting Emmys (it scored only one win for costume design). Fran, Renee (both nominated) and Daniel were all hilarious in their roles and very deserving.

R62 Nadine just didn't have the kitchen that Niles had.

I see it every night on Logo or Cozi. Fuck HBO Max.

They have "Niles and CC Burns" from all 6 seasons on YouTube and I just watched them again....am sore from laughing!!

r65 types poor

Grandma Yetta was a more glamorous Bernice Clifton. I loved how she called Brighton "Little Shmooey."

R50 It was kind of a cop out to put CC and Niles together but they kind of had to do it. It is a sitcom, after all. After seeing CC not get her man and even have a mental breakdown because of it, they had to give her someone. And, it gives Niles a happy ending as well.

Little fun fact: Charles Schaughnessy is the son of Alfred Shaughnessy, the developer of the original 'Upstairs Downstairs.'

[quote] see it every night on Logo or Cozi. Fuck HBO Max.

No, you see a half hour of commercials with clips of "The Nanny" in between on Logo

I loved when Dorothy Lyman was one as a snooty matron and asked Fran if a sculpture was Mayan. Fran replied (while pointing at Mr. Sheffield), “No, it’s his’n!”

This show is like comfort food. It’s not HIGH ART and it’s not trying to be. I binged super heavy THEM on Prime today, and I needed a little light entertainment, and THE NANNY filled the bill.

r72 Dorothy Lyman directed many episodes of the show.

voted top ten ,,,,one of the worst shows ever made....her voice alone is vomit inducing.

[quote]I thought it was weird there was only one episode with Fran's sister Nadeine. She was never seen again after that and I'm not sure she was ever mentioned.

I feel her pain.

It's a great old-fashioned sitcom and a nice escape for 30 minutes.

Fran: Niles, do we have any old nipples?

CC: Hello-hello!

Fran must be one of the most gross untalented people to ever make it. true, her voice makes kids weep.

[quote]This show is like comfort food. It’s not HIGH ART and it’s not trying to be.

True but it's still infuriating how a great show like "The Nanny" was dismissed by critics while "Friends," which wasn't nearly as funny, continues to be put on a pedestal as one of the "greatest" TV sitcoms of all time. It's such a joke.

True r79. The Nanny was funnier than Friends.

Lauren Lane was gorgeous back then.

[quote] It is a very old-fashioned sitcom and Fran Drescher is funny despite that voice, but a show like this would get canceled after the very first episode today and be accused of peddling Jewish stereotypes.

Not it wouldn't. Transparent, the show with Jeffrey Tambor on Amazon Prime is essentially a jewish show with all the jokes and stereotypes and no one bats an eye. It literally ended with a musical number with lots of puns about the holocaust.

[quote] Lauren Lane was gorgeous back then.

She's even better now.

[quote] Surprised she can't find the right vehicle sense; she knows her way around a good punchline.

She keeps alluding to a possible reboot. When promoting that show with Adam Pauley she mentioned many times she could do the nanny today with Cardi B and she would be the right "ethnic" replacement, her words not mine.

Fran should have had Rosie O'Donnell appear on her show and compete with her over who was the bigger Streisand (and Midler) fan.

My favorite moments from the show:

1. After finding out that Brighton has been smoking, Fran laments, "I am the worst nanny in the world." She pauses for a beat and then says, "OK, maybe Rebecca de Mornay, then me."

2. Fran, Sylvia and Yetta slapping each other after an argument.

3. Fran trying to convince Maggie to spend her summer in a convent. "I got two words for you. Sounda Music."

4. During a family quarrel over a will, Fran's uncle says something like, "Our side of the family has done well." Sylvia responds, "What well? My daughter is a maid." Fran, who has been gorging on a sandwich, protests, "Nanny, ma!" with her mouth full.

Maybe they were all corny moments and not particularly witty, but as someone wrote up thread, it's like comfort food. Very old-fashioned feel good comedy and Fran Drescher has great comedy timing.

[quote] Fran should have had Rosie O'Donnell appear on her show and compete with her over who was the bigger Streisand (and Midler) fan.

Rosie played a cab driver where Fran lost something valuable (a ring?) in the cab.

[quote] Rosie played a cab driver where Fran lost something valuable (a ring?) in the cab.

Wasn't there also an episode where Nanny Fine was in the audience for the Rosie show and got interviewed by Rosie? Or was it Regis and Kunty Lee?

I never saw it. Based on DL advise I watched Frasier and loved it.

I am now watching Murphy Brown.

Before the lockdowns I never watched any tv.

R78 that's not her real voice.

Fran's voice is just a part of her exaggerated TV persona. Think Gilbert Gottfried or Jean Stapleton or Sam Kinison. Her real voice is more subdued.

I enjoyed Fran's short lived TV Land sitcom Happily Divorced. It even had Shaughnessy guest star as a bisexual playboy who wanted a threesome with Fran and her gay ex husband.

I love this show and think it's vastly underappreciated.

However.....I seem to remember a lot of gossip about how cunty Fran is/was, how she would want all the funny lines, etc.

Fran would never be cunty R92. You're thinking of Cybil Shephard.

R78 is illiterate.

[quote] You're thinking of Cybil Shephard.

Oh, dear.

Oh, dear, what R95? Did I misspell her name? Pffft.

BOTH names, R96. Brava!

As I said, Pffftttt....I don't care. She's always been overrated, in both looks and talent.

Who the fuck could care if Cybil Shepard's name is spelled correctly? That is bizarre OCD shit.

R99 No, that's called basic intelligence. Which you clearly lack.

If you care about a topic and your argument, you take the time and check your comment's grammar and spelling. People tend to take comments, with proper grammar and spelling, more seriously.

And yes, I had to do a quick check regarding serious vs. seriously.

Actually, r100, spelling and the presumed need for it is about education. Intelligence has nothing to do with it. Since you are all about improving others, I thought you would want to know.

It's such a fun and charming show based on the I Love Lucy formula and it worked. There were even the same stakes as I Love Lucy

Fran = Lucy

Mr. Sheffield = Ricky

Niles = Ethel

CC = Fred

When the Nanny started, I thought what an old, outdated concept. Who'd have a nanny in the nineties? And the concept really sounded like a rehash of 80s 'Who's the boss'. And on top of that they re-used even the set for the pilot. So I really didn't have high hopes. But man the show was enjoyable right from the start. The star clicked right away with the audience, the writing was sharp , and the supporting characters were written well and utilized just to the right amount.

Fran and Mr Sheffield had great chemistry with each other. Even the kids were able to act like they genuinely adored Fran.

[quote]If you care about a topic and your argument, you take the time and check your comment's grammar and spelling. People tend to take comments, with proper grammar and spelling, more seriously.

That's fine for a work document or an academic paper, but on an internet forum where people quickly type their random thoughts, and the subject of which is a half-forgotten actress from the 80s, nobody's going to approach the topic as if it's a dissertation. And you're a cunt.

[quote]When the Nanny started, I thought what an old, outdated concept. Who'd have a nanny in the nineties? And the concept really sounded like a rehash of 80s 'Who's the boss'. And on top of that they re-used even the set for the pilot.

That's because the producers of The Nanny created Who's the Boss.

They made a second season Who's the Boss backdoor pilot with Donna Dixon and Fran Drescher called Charmed Lives which never got picked up. So Fran had previous experience working with them.

r106, this is an anonymous message board. Your comment, or comments, is all the reader has to create a mental picture of you. And I'm sorry to say, I don't get a pretty picture of you. I can't see how anybody can.

[quote] And you're a cunt.

I rest my case.

It is extremely disappointing that Fran Drescher turned out to be one of those anti-vaxxer covidiot conspiritualists.

R92, I read that too but I find that hard to believe. I've watched the show a few times and there were few (if any) lines that don't make sense the way they are said. In cybill, it's obvious many of those lines were written for Cybill just because she demanded to outshine Baranski. But I don't see that in The Nanny.

R104, a ton of people in Manhattan have nannies. It's a competitive business--way more than in Chicago where I live.

[quote]Who'd have a nanny in the nineties?

Lots of people. One of the perks of wealth is not having to raise your own kids.

r108 you type like an old lady.

Lots of wealthy people in NYC have nannies. It's always been very common among that class.

It was I Love Lucy for the 90s, with a scheming ditz who is always getting in trouble to the chagrin of her hunky husband/boss.

[quote]Who'd have a nanny in the nineties?

They still have them in the '10s!

I don't know about Fran being a diva, but Peter and her separated towards the end of the shows run when he announced he was gay. The last year or two was a professional but chilly atmosphere. Thankfully they worked through it and are now good friends.

I think Fran has said the show should have ended with the wedding, and that the last year was a mistake in retrospect. But CBS was threw a lot of money at them to stay on so they did. CBS also did the show dirty in its last season. They pulled it after February sweeps, bringing it back in late May to air the finale. The problem is they didn't air the five episodes prior to the finale until mid summer. So viewers saw Fran coming home with a new baby weeks before they saw her give birth and Niles and CC newlyweds before they even had their wedding. I think the proposal episode might have dumped during that summer as well.

Anyway, it was a mess of an ending to a good show.

r99 It's spelled Cybill.

r118 And Shepherd.

Nobody gives a fuck r118.

[quote]but Peter and her separated towards the end of the shows run

Oh, dear. (x2)

[quote]CBS also did the show dirty in its last season. They pulled it after February sweeps, bringing it back in late May to air the finale. The problem is they didn't air the five episodes prior to the finale until mid summer. So viewers saw Fran coming home with a new baby weeks before they saw her give birth and Niles and CC newlyweds before they even had their wedding. I think the proposal episode might have dumped during that summer as well.

For syndication, do they still show the episodes out of order? I only catch the show here and there, so never paid any attention to see if they rearranged them so that the storyline makes sense.

Can someone set the oh dear troll on fire? THX.

r115 And Niles and C.C. were Fred and Ethel.

r123 It's cute that you think there's just one of them.

r124 And Yetta was Mrs. Trumbull.

All of them should be set on fire. Every damn thread, constantly. It's a fucking internet forum with hundreds of posts every day, not the damn National Review. Fuck.

[quote]Fran's voice is just a part of her exaggerated TV persona. Think Gilbert Gottfried or Jean Stapleton or Sam Kinison. Her real voice is more subdued.

[quote]It is extremely disappointing that Fran Drescher turned out to be one of those anti-vaxxer covidiot conspiritualists.

Yeah, well they said she was a Trumper too because he was on her show 20 years ago. She is good friends with Rosie, not show biz friends but stay at each other's place when they are on the opposite coasts. Since they made "Car 54, Where Are You?" in 1994

Can't believe I started a cat fight over the spelling of Cybill's name between two total strangers.🤣

That's why I love all you bitches.

Did Yetta’s pussy stink? Well did it???

I cant stand her voice...it's as if she's was channeling Teresa Giudice all those yrs

I wonder if Fran took inspiration from Katey Sagal's performance as Peggy Bundy on Married with Children. Katey, similar to Fran, gave the character a high pitched whiny voice for comedic effect. Also Peggy had similarly tacky makeup, fashion and hair to indicate she was lower class and aging but still wanted to be seen as sexy. And similar to Fran, her character was always horny yet her husband wasn't interested.

No, r133, just...

R134

I also forgot. Jackee Harry played a similarly flamboyant character on 227 which also predated The Nanny.

She was funnier than Sybil Shepird!

Her clothes were all designer. Hardly Peg Bundy-ish.

[quote]Did Yetta’s pussy stink? Well did it???

No, Niles kept it clean and tidy.

I've never watched this show before and I've been enjoying it. I think it holds up well, and they snuck in some surprisingly dirty jokes.

You could make the Nanny today r104. I guess it doesn't exist in flyover country, but in New York, LA, and the Bay the nanny industry is big.

[quote]Did Yetta’s pussy stink? Well did it???

How do you think her husband found her?

Trapped in the wine cellar, Fran passes the time by giving C.C. a new do.

R141 don't encourage the mentally ill troll. it posts about poop in other threads

horrid show ewwwwwww

I was watching an old (1983) episode of "Partners In Crime" on Britbox, and who should show up but a very young Mr. Sheffield!

The other memorable part of the episode was the line, "she stood up and a silver teaspoon fell out of her muff."

The Nanny is comfort tv to me. No thinking required and a good way to spend time before falling asleep plus she's gorgeous and he's hot as fuck. I wonder if they ever got together off set because they had great chemistry.

25 Years Later, The Nanny Is Having Another Moment

[quote]The kids were well cast too and unlike other sitcoms, the children never took over the show with nauseatingly cutesy antics.

Nor did they add a Cousin Oliver when the youngest grew up like The Cosby Show, Married... with Children, Roseanne, and the Golden Palace.

R38 Charles Shaugnessey discusses that in this clip (skip to 1:44)

R149, that's so funny.

R149, I sometimes forget how well The Nanny used guest stars.

Don't know if it's a DL running joke or not, but there's a persistent rumor across previous Nanny threads that Ben Salisbury is hung like a porn star and was nicknamed "Ben with Ten." He left acting and is now of operations at Universal Studios Hollywood. He has a wife and three kids, despite pinging like crazy and despite another rumor that he took Justin Berfield's virginity.

In any case, he looks like hell.

^ director of operations ^

Good for Ben Salisbury. He was one of the few who knew he would never make it as an adult actor and moved on with his life instead of becoming a total crazy embarrassment like so many of them who just don't know when to pack it up and change careers.

YouTube currently has CAPTAIN RON available as a free movie, so I watched it over the weekend. Ben Salisbury is in it as the son of Martin Short and Mary Kay Place. I was thinking that may have been what got him noticed for THE NANNY since the movie and show were only one year apart.

James Marsden's character Eddie appeared twice in the first season of THE NANNY. In his second episode, he and Maggie officially go out on a date, with Fran serving as chaperone.

[quote]n any case, he looks like hell.

Actually he looks fine and except for the hair, scroll up and if he doesn't look like he could be related to Charles Shaugnessey.

By the way Charles Shaugnessey went on to Broadway in the musical "Urinetown" Met him at The Broadway Cares Equity Fights AIDS Annual Flea Market and co-starred with Christine Ebersol in the Paper Mill Playhouse production of "Ever After" the musical adaption of the Drew Barrymore Cinderella movie.

I just watched the French Tutor episode with Paolo Seganti and damn he was so sexy in this. You know Fran was happy to make sure they were kissing all episode.

Funny that when this was on originally I never paid much attention to Mr. Sheffield, but on this rewatch I’m finding him quite sexy.

Watch this, bitches!

How could you not notice r159? Mr. Sheffield being good looking is built into the premise of the show, Fran and CC constantly fighting for him.

I know, r161, he was objectively handsome. Maybe “didn’t notice” was the wrong phrase. I guess I didn’t want to fuck him when I was watching it back then? Now when I watch it, I want to rip off those 90s pleated dad pants, and bend him over his big desk!

it and its star are the epitome of repulsive and brain ded.

Look at the genius at r163. Graduate of the Sally Struthers Degree Mill, I see.

Great Instagram account: " What Fran Wore"