Invincible (Amazon Prime, 2021)

More on the comic book series it’s based on.

Also, I’m only on episode 3, but so far, it’s totally earned the great reviews.

[bold]SPOILERS[/bold]

For you bitches that can’t be bothered unless lured, imagine watching this cartoon with no previous knowledge of the comic book and thinking, as it plays, “Okay, it’s fun, clever, a total homage, has some interesting pathos,” and then being hit in the face with this scene:

The team in the first episode is also a total homage to Justice League.

Wait... there's only FOUR episodes?!??

Is it releasing weekly, or is this it for season one?!?

R5 There are more episodes. They drop on Fridays.

I need episode 5 now.

Great interview.

Interview with cast.

When do episodes drop? I thought it was Thursday... but no new episode tonight. Is it tomorrow?

Didn't care for the first episode. Does it improve?

R9 Tomorrow, babe. My body is ready. This has become my new nighttime soap opera.

R10 I think it gets really good, but then again, I was hooked from episode one. It does get more and more intriguing, though, and if they stay faithful to the comics and this goes past one season, we’re in for a helluva ride.

R10, you watched through the end credits, right?

And yeah, each episode gets better than the previous, imho.

Good point, R13. I almost shut it off before that insane epilogue.

Big fan of the comic - it went a little south at the end. It is slightly homophobic with his bff turning out to be gay and it creeping him out and the weird time shift storyline but otherwise a really good take on the whole Superman theme.

R15 His best friend being gay does not creep him out! If you’re referring to his friend promising to talk about “straight stuff,” I took that as him being self-effacing. They have a cute relationship, actually.

R3, that scene does not make me more likely to watch the show. It seems excessively and unnecessarily violent and gory.

R17 It really isn’t, though. That scene is a pivotal plot twist and the gore is meant to underscore the tragedy and the high-stakes.

Up until that point, the story unfolds with a deceptive warmth and innocence.

New episode is up. I started watching it but had to pause it because of an impromptu meeting. Will be finishing it later tonight. I liked what I saw so far.

I started watching last week and binged the first three episodes. I don't have the patience to watch one episode per week but I'm excited for it to end so I can finish it. Omniman can get it!!

[quote] For you bitches that can’t be bothered unless lured, imagine watching this cartoon with no previous knowledge of the comic book and thinking, as it plays, “Okay, it’s fun, clever, a total homage, has some interesting pathos,” and then being hit in the face with this scene:

Why do you think that would make anyone want to watch it (other than 14 year-old boys) to see someone's skull crushed until their eyes pop out by a Superman clone?

Haven't we already seen this kind of thing with "The Boys"? It's not that original at this date, especially after "the Boys" and "Brightburn," to see Superman re-imagined as a murderous psychopath.

I'm really surprised this is being presented as if it's somehow daring and innovative--we've seen it many times before.

I am watching this with DL in mind... so I am thinking Omniman is a closet gay daddy fucking his son's gay best friend on the side. His conflicted sexuality caused him to go psycho! LOL

Firstly, “Invincible” first appeared in 2002 and was published as a series in 2003, years before either “The Boys” or “Brightburn” - neither of which I’ve seen - so they can have a seat.

Secondly, I didn’t mean to imply that the gore would want to make anyone watch it as much as the sudden shift in tone and story. Nonetheless, I concede that it does read that way.

Thirdly, no one is disputing that we’ve seen stories like these before - one can argue that “Akira”, “The Dark Knight Returns”, and “Watchmen” did it first and nearly 40 years ago - but that doesn’t mean one can’t enjoy a well-written and executed animated adaptation of a beloved comic series.

R23 Yeah, I was surprised how old the source material was. I vaguely remember seeing this comic title over the years but never checked it out. Now I am going to read the series of graphic novels when I have time.

R24 I was was aware of it too, but also never checked it out. Quite frankly, I assumed it was a silly little comic. Anyway, I cheated and watched some of the fabulous series recaps on YouTube, which have only intrigued me more. I also plan on reading the series, which has a definite ending and doesn’t just go on ad infinitum.

For those of you curious to see where this is all going, the recap below is pretty great. Of course, it contains a lot of spoilers, so don’t watch if you want the show to remain totally surprising. Personally, it hasn’t ruined my enjoyment of the show, but has only made me anticipate the upcoming plot twists even more.

In addition to the broad recap of the series I posted below, which is also a character overview of Invincible, there are other character overviews published by the same channel, which cover other characters and storylines in-depth. (Side note: I like the narrator because he sounds cute, smart, and soothing, lol.)

There are 25 volumes of GN for this series.... how many seasons can Amazon make?

R26 If it’s successful - and it seems like it is so far - it could go on for as long as any of the other superhero animated shows, which have lasted as long as five seasons, maybe more.

Dude, if you haven't seen "The Boys" (also a comic adaptation), you should. It's also on Prime, so it's easy enough to binge if you're watching Invincible.

Brightburn was pretty good, but it could have been much better. And it's just a single movie, so not a huge investment.

r15 It was slightly homophobic because before he comes out, he makes Mark carry him like Lois the Superman movie or he will reveal his secret identity. Mark complains about how "gay" it is.

[quote]Mark complains about how "gay" it is.

The world is different now than it was in 2003 where it's a lot more common that a 17 year old would be out in high school and that his friends wouldn't have a problem with it.

On one hand they made the character gay from the start and we see he's doing just fine and no one minds at all. On the other hand that means he loses a lot of his story.

R28 I’ll definitely check them out.

R29 oh gawd.

Anyway, this week’s episode was insane. Poor Mark! And I can’t believe that fucker (Omni-Man) just watched. (J.K. Simmons does an excellent job.) Also, I wonder if Debbie is going to be the one to find out. If she does find out, I’m worried Cecile will be as ruthless with her as he was with the demon detective.Damien Darkblood. And that ending both saddened and pissed me the fuck off! I can’t blame Titan, though.

Also, I had no idea Zachary Quinta voices the Robot!

R30 Well, gay bff seems to have the hots for Mark's daddy/Omni-Man.... but it's likely a throwaway line, since I doubt they would go there.

R32 That scene was too cute. I hope they feature William again.

[bold]SPOILER[/bold]

In the comics, he finds out that Mark is Invincible and goes on to date another superhero: Rick Sheridan, aka Reaniman, whose “body is made of mostly machine.”

Rick “Reaniman” Sheridan

OP, you know that by watching this you support Amazon's continuing program to impoverish and debase American workers and consumers and enrich the super-billionaires.

I forgot to mention that episode 5 really threw me for a loop. I mean, we’re so used to these superhero shows ending a particular way when it comes to their battles against villains, so it’ll always be surprising when they don’t. Its adamance to shock and invert is what I’m loving most about this show.

The complete inversion of the Superman mythos is deliciously effective and intriguing.

R35 Bitch, please. Nowadays, just by living and being a regular consumer of anything, we’re all supporting some form of abuse and injustice. Hello capitalism!

If you were to trace back any one of the products or “necessities” you refuse to live without, you’d be surprised at what [italic]you’re[/italic] supporting.

Is there any man-on-man action?

Were there any of the gay in Walking Dead?

R37 No man-on-man action yet, but, as much as I hate to admit finding cartoon men attractive, I think they draw the men very sexy. They all have beautiful asses, lol.

R38 I want to see a gay cartoon orgy!

We couldn’t get past the first episode.

BORING

r40, are you (all of you) a multiple?

No

Then why do you refer to yourself as "we"?

The first episode was kind of boring, but I thought the second episode was great... the best one so far. Besides, the whole series is only 8 episodes according to IMDb, so it's not a big investment of time.

^ I meant the whole season

r39

there are those on pornhub

There were a few gay in The Walking Dead - Jesus being one. All of the Viltrimites (sorry sp?) are drawn like 70's buckshot porn stars - All muscle and moustache. But there is no man on man action.

R40 turned it off the moment the credits appeared.

The first episode is boring until the very end r40, when you realize the show is purposely misdirecting you. I almost gave up on it, glad I didn't.

It has 96% on RT and 8.8/10 on iMDB.

This is a cartoon, correct?

R48 Interesting. I’m assuming you mean the end credits because those are the only credits the show has. Also, if you did that, you may have missed the epilogue, which is highly important if you’re attempting to assess the show.

R51 Yes. Adult animation, if you will.

Is the Sequid storyline going to pick up again considering one made it back to Earth?

R53 Of course!

I just saw the first episode last night and still traumatized by that last scene. Good Lord!

R55 I hope you stick with it.

It's turning out pretty good.

I'm intrigued at how this will all play out, but am going to be pissed if it's some lame explanation for everything.

R57 don't expect everything to be answered. This is just season one. The comics ran for a while.

R57 If they’re faithful to the comics, which they have been so far, save for speeding up a few plot points, it’ll be operatic.

Latest episode is the gayest yet, both in terms of story and cast, with Jonathan Groff, Andrew Rannells, and Ezra Miller.

R60 Hate what they did to the college hunk gay character though.

This episode may be too gay for the comic book fanboys.

Amber is annoying AF.

Mark and William should comfort each other (in bed) after that ordeal! Forget clueless bitch Amber.

Eve is decent but yeah Mark should have fucked Rick with the weird German flags before he was lobotomized. Amber sucks.

Any Mark nude drawings yet?

So why did Mark's dad kill the superheroes in episode 1? Please spoil.

R67 SPOILERS -- I mean it....

R67 He is an alien from another planet who married a human. These aliens were all genetically engineered "Supermen" who originally were going to conquer planets, but he mellowed out when he married and had a kid. There aren't many of these aliens left.

But Mark displaying his powers reminded him of his mission. He ends up fighting Mark and leaving Earth instead of killing his son. He ends up fighting his own kind and sort of redeeming himself, etc, (its a big space/superhero soap opera.)

Who knows how the cartoon will change it, though.

R60 I’m going to watch now!

Amber is annoying, and just follows the "girlfriend who doesn't get it and is being crazy-obnoxious and demanding because she doesn't know about the hero's secret life" thing. Eve is ideal: she understands the costs of being a hero, etc.

omfg! I’m only 3 minutes in and creeped the fuck out! Ah!

Amber behaves like any rational person would behave in that situation. Reminds me of people who hated Skylar on Breaking Bad.

R72, exactly. But that doesn't mean she's not annoying to the viewer, despite having less information than the viewer. Eve is the way to go - someone he can be completely open with.

I want to see fan porn of Mark.

Ah! They’re going to introduce Rick (already!)! Okay, I’ll stop until I finish this episode, so I can read what you bitches are yapping about.

Mark is so fucking hot. Fuck, man. I want to see his chest and abs, though. And butt.

Wow. This was the best episode yet; maddeningly suspenseful and disturbing, with soupçons of humor and charm. So much happened and I’m sort of taken aback by it all.

I actually fell in love with Rick - Rick! 😭 - and William is fabulous and adorable all at once. I really dig his relationship with Mark, who is utter perfection. I get Amber, but she’s annoying me.

Also, Omni-Man is pissing me the fuck off, the murderous bastard. Debbie! 😭 I hope nothing happens to her.

I really like Samantha, aka Atomic Eve, who totally reminds me of Jean Grey (and, if they stick to the comic, the similarities will become even more apparent).

What a surprising and fantastic fucking show. And, R67, you just had to, didn’t you, you little cunt? It’s okay, lol, you did include a spoiler warning and, having posted the first spoiler in this thread, I really should shut the fuck up.

I can’t believe we have to wait another week. These slow drips are killing me.

Does Mark eventually get with Eve? Or is Amber here to stay and for how long? Ugh.

R77 I don’t want to spoil it, but if you watch the YouTube video I posted upthread - ah fuck it, I’ll repost - all your questions will be answered.

And my cunty snip was obviously meant for R68.

I totally caught the Reginald Vel Johnson High School gag.

R80 What was it?

Their high school is called Reginald Vel Johnson High School. The gay actor from Family Matters and Die Hard.

R82 Ah, I didn’t even catch that!

If you have any questions of what will happen - just go to youtube the whole timeline, storylines are explained.

I can accept a lot from this show...but a full one bedroom apt in a dorm? Where you actually have a separate bedroom and living room to yourself?

I never saw that in my college days.

Well, Mark is only a 17 year old minor r75....

Heh. Though yeah I get it, he is drawn like quite the hunk. So is Eve for that matter. The characters look mid twenties, not like highschoolers. Though if this was live action they would cast actors in their 20s so it's the same principle.

[quote] So is Eve ...

Eve is drawn like a hunk?

I cannot wait until this week’s episode. I think by season’s end, Omniman will be in all out villain mode.

R87 I am thinking Debbie RIP(ieces) soon!

R88 I will cut a bitch! I love Deb. She’s such a cool, down to earth mom. I hope they remain faithful to her history in the comics.

Amber is such a bitch! Very annoying.

I’m ready for this, bitches. Does anyone know if new episodes drop at midnight on Prime?

Ep 7 was pretty good. Some plot development but the rest is all fight scenes!

R92 Um, how did you see it?!

R93 It's available on my Roku TV's Amazon Prime app. The episodes have been available on Thursday for me for some reason, and I am in California.

R94 I see. How unfair!

Also, someone said that this season is only nine episodes long, so you just know they’re going to leave us on one motherfucker of a cliffhanger!

R96 I think there are only eight episodes. This week's episode is already the penultimate one. It seems to set up a Omni-man vs Invincible fight in the final episode.

R97 Ah!

[quote]Well, Mark is only a 17 year old minor [R75]....

It's possible to hear him full-on [italic]moan[/italic] (sexually) in ep. 1 when he's out practising his flying.

William finds his boytoy turned into a cyborg

R100 Stop!

Episode 7 is up!

After the first six minutes of episode 7, I’m really fucking over Amber. Like, [italic]done[/italic]. I gave her the benefit of the doubt before but this is just bullshit behavior now.

This. Fucking. Episode.

Episode 7 was amazing, R92. It was definitely a little more than just fight scenes, though. The plot shot forward like fucking bullet!

R105 The fight scenes were getting a bit repetitive. The only fight that was really necessary for the plot was the brutal rematch with the Immortal in front of Invincible. It's like the show was dragging out the throw everything at Omni-man part, so they could end the episode with the "We need to talk" line.

Gave this show a chance after seeing it on here, and I'm glad I did. I went into it thinking I was not going to like it but that changed quickly. It's compelling and is willing to "go there" in a way the shows from my childhood wouldn't. However, I feel like it's missing something.... not sure what though.... the world they live in seems a bit "thin" at the moment not sure how to describe it or perhaps I'm just unfamiliar with the source material.

I know this is a fictional cartoon, but even fictional universes have to have a set of rules. There are some odd inconsistencies where Mark can stop a giant asteroid from hitting earth and swing the asteroid back into space, but then he is strong-armed by a cyborg???

Kirkman said they’re already working on season 2 and that he has an arc that spans multiple seasons, based on the comic book arc, I’m sure.

R107 I think you’re pointing out something valid, which is that they haven’t fully fleshed out the world of the “normals” yet. Considering how much they’ve chosen to cover this season, though, I understand why. Plus, we have William, Debbie, and Amber for that.

I have a feeling they will delve more into the world surrounding the heroes and villains in season 2. I do like that they acknowledged that everyone was watching the big fight via tv, phone, and laptops, lol.

Amber, If your bf comes out as a hunky superhero in a skin-tight suit in your bedroom, you don't tell him to leave!

Mark's not that hot. Kinda scrawny. Nolan on the other hand... total DILF! And the Immortal... after all those years of experience, he must be an EXPERT fuck.

R111 William had the same Omni-man is DILF opinion, so kind of strange he wasn't more gaga over Nolan being all angry Daddy during their one-on-one encounter in this episode.

Robot should have cloned Mark instead of whathisname!

I have to say, who ever is drawing the butts on the guys is doing a damn good job!

"I’m really fucking over Amber."

Dear god so am I. She's being SUCH A FUCKING CUNT.

Fuck off babyish OP

A cah-TOOON???

[quote]Amber, If your bf comes out as a hunky superhero in a skin-tight suit in your bedroom, you don't tell him to leave!

You do if they've been treating you like you're stupid the entire time. Like she said, she already knew but he waited too long to tell her. I was happy she didn't just forgive him.

AtomEve calling him out on not waiting months to tell her and string her along was great.

That's one of the great things about this show: Amber isn't Lois Lane and putting on and taking off glasses wouldn't hide your identity from anyone normally either. That doesn't happen here.

R115 Her reaction to Mark’s revelation - he was so sweet and adorable during that scene- totally turned me the fuck off. And I can’t believe she knew and still put him through shit, which made her even more unbearable to me.

R118 If Amber knew, she should have just confronted him. To play this "wait for him to tell me to show he trusts me" game is totally passive aggressive nonsense. They only dated for a bit. It was not like she was his long time gf. She should consider if the role were reversed, would she have told him after only a few dates?

R118 I can understand being hurt by not being told, but to treat him like shit and insult him? What makes it worse is that she lied herself, accusing him of running away the previous episode when apparently she knew all along that not only was he fighting that cyborg, he was getting seriously hurt, too. Bitch, please.

R120 Now that you mention it, I feel like Mark not telling Amber somewhat mirrors Nolan not telling Debbie he killed all the heroes. It's all about keeping secrets. I wonder if that parallelism between the son and dad was deliberately done by the writers....

R122 Interesting take. Still, their situations really aren’t comparable. First, Mark has known Amber for six months, at most, and didn’t tell his best friend, either, so it obviously wasn’t just her he was keeping his identity from. Second, Mark didn’t murder anyone.

However, the keeping of secrets is definitely a theme. In addition to Omniman, Cecil is also definitely keeping secrets, and Amber was apparently keeping her own secret, too.

Mark not disclosing that he has powers he just learned about to a girl he just met, though he really likes her, seems like the most normal thing to me.

Robot was also keeping secrets AND Rex cheating on Eve with the duplicating chick was ALSO a secret!

I think we're on to something here R123!

R124 I forgot about them!

Debbie has been the only one to be brutally honest with the harsh, uncomfortable truth.

Maybe this is a Robert Kirkman writing style thing. I stopped watching Walking Dead a long time ago, but I remember a lot of characters were not what they seemed, or had some secret, or ulterior motive.

DA Sinclair is another secret keeper!

R126 True!

I do like the fact that the arc for this series is already established in the comics. And I really love what I’ve researched about it. It’s epic.

I wonder if they will ever adapt the...problematic...issue #110.

R128 Speak not!

I hate Mark's superhero suit with the black in front which makes it difficult to see his crotch area clearly. The goggles annoy me too. I want to see when he looks at his dad and other men's bulges.

Robot copying someone's body without their consent and becoming a child so he can get together with Monster Girl is really damn creepy. Like are we supposed to be on his side?

The quick gag that the Immortal was Abe Lincoln made me chuckle.

Also if that random criminal can hire that space animal to kick the shit out of Mark, why can't Cecil?

The scene of Mark in Amber's room they put his ass in frame for a while r114, and they were showing off quite the bubble butt on Mark.

R132 HAHA! I noticed the same thing! I wasn't even listening to what the fuck Amber was saying.

That's what made me post my R114 comment.

Yikes. I meant to write “Spoiler tag it for us, please!” in the signature at R129.

[quote] The quick gag that the Immortal was Abe Lincoln made me chuckle.

R131 I interpreted that moment as Immortal being John Wilkes Booth!

R132 The ass shots are fabulous. All of the men have tight, round, perky bums.

Me too, R135.

I’m not going to risk spoiling what happened in issue #110, but it was pretty controversial at the time. There’s a lot about it on the internets but here’s a synopsis if you want to know.

r128, I’’M SPEECHLESS!!!

R138 Thank you, my love!

[quote] Robot copying someone's body without their consent and becoming a child so he can get together with Monster Girl is really damn creepy. Like are we supposed to be on his side?

This was a bit disturbing to me too, R131. Admittedly, I thought Robot had more nefarious plans in mind (I could have sworn he extracted the blood before Monster Girl was introduced), but this was downright wrong [italic]and[/italic] creepy.

Also, now he’s a teenager who expects to hook up with a perpetually stunted 30-something year old? Uh, I’m keeping my eyes on him.

So, the season finale has got to result in a fight between Mark and Nolan, which means the cliffhanger is going to be who wins.

Yeah I remember reading about it at the time but hadn’t made it that far in the series. My local library has/had all the collected volumes, and I did read a lot of them. It’s been a long time, so while I do remember a lot of these characters, I don’t remember most of the story...like what Nolan is up to. It’s sort of nice to enjoy this and not really know what’s going to happen.

Oh hell no, R128/R142.

EXACTLY, R119.

She's a cunt. Period.

He's better off without her. Why doesn't he see that? She's awful. He belongs with AtomEve.

[quote]Mark not disclosing that he has powers he just learned about to a girl he just met, though he really likes her, seems like the most normal thing to me.

AtomEve says that Invincible has been dating Amber for 5 months. That's not a small amount of time. Even she, who told him not to say anything initially, still didn't think he'd be keeping it a secret at that point.

And while he and William have been friends for much longer than he has been dating Amber, he's not fucking him so their relationship is a little bit different. William also tells him he'd better tell her. He also hasn't been randomly ditching him and showing up late for dates because William has a life. (Which is different than most shows with relationships like this where the best friend is around all the time and doesn't do anything that doesn't involve their 'bestie.')

[quote]What makes it worse is that she lied herself, accusing him of running away the previous episode when apparently she knew all along that not only was he fighting that cyborg, he was getting seriously hurt, too. Bitch, please.

He lied to her for months, kept promising to be a better boyfriend and only told her the truth after she dumped him. She was okay with him not telling her until he was ready until it was completely obvious and he still continued to lie to her. She had enough.

Dumping him was what was best for the both of them. (And I thought it was pretty obvious from the early episodes of the show that he's totally going to end up with Eve.)

[quote] I wonder if that parallelism between the son and dad was deliberately done by the writers....

I think that's what's happening. Both lied to the people they claim to like/love and they both only told the truth after they had no other options. They also both seem to make a lot of empty promises to do better than fail.

*then not than.

R145, I think you see the world very differently from most of us.

Also, can you please quote a lie that he told her?

R145 And you don’t think the fact that he was, I don’t know, putting his life and beautiful, supple ass on the line should’ve superseded her sophomoric feelings about truth and trust?

He obviously liked her and was heading toward falling in love with her. Why didn’t she just let the cat out of the bag? She could have been truthful with him about knowing [italic]and[/italic] still opened up to him about how hurt she was that he didn’t confide in her. Instead, she acts like a douchebag and literally throws salt in his wounds.

Funny enough, I was on her side at first, when I thought she actually didn’t know, but as soon as she flippantly revealed that she knew “months ago” and didn’t give a damn enough to give him credit for finally opening up - and dismissed him, calling him “fly boy,” from her room - I was done with her.

Amazing? Bit of an overstatement. Annoyingly so might I add. It's good tho.

R149 It’s absolutely stunning.

[quote]Also, can you please quote a lie that he told her?

You're just being obtuse. He finished their breakup scene holding a rock that he gave her where he both lied about what it was, lied about where he got it and even lied about where he went after being late to meeting her and lying about that too.

[quote] I think you see the world very differently from most of us.

Believing, "you can't have a relationship with someone who thinks you are stupid," shouldn't be different than anyone else. If so, that's sad.

[quote]... superseded her sophomoric feelings about truth and trust?

No, because by having a parallel story involving Mark's parents, the show is showing you that you can't continually lie to the person you're with even if you think you have a good reason. It doesn't matter that Omni-Man or Invincible are heroes. Amber/Debbie both knew that. They don't even mind either of them showing up late or not showing up at all to things because they both know what their jobs is.

Their issues with Mark/Omni-Man are related to how they treated them beyond that; super hero status or no status. Mark should have told Amber by now (according to William, Eve and Amber herself.) And Debbie tells Omni-Man if he wanted to tell her why he did it months ago then he should have. Amber doesn't trust Mark and Debbie doesn't trust Omni-Man. (Also Debbie obviously isn't scared of Omni-Man. She confronts him like a wife would confront a husband that she knows won't hurt her.)

r138 RAAAAAPPPPEEE

[quote]the show is showing you that you can't continually lie to the person you're with even if you think you have a good reason

R151 And yet, it was okay for Amber to deceive Mark by pretending she didn’t know about his identity and insulting him, even after he wound up in the hospital - even after he rushed to defend her and his best friend, getting brutalized in the process?

Nolan and Debbie’s storyline is vastly different from Mark and Amber’s. While deception is a central theme in both, the former involved multiple murders and, unlike in the latter, the deceived cut through the bullshit once she was sure of what happened and confronted the deceiver. Debbie didn’t play idiotic and, quite frankly, hurtful mind games and, unlike Amber, she only lied briefly until she was absolutely certain of what Nolan had done.

As I wrote upthread, I was on Amber’s side and can even understand her being hurt by Mark’s deception, but she also revealed herself to be rather petty, unforgiving, and self-entitled. I would understand her final response to Mark if he had been, you know, cheating or “hanging with the boys,” but he was saving fucking lives while putting his own at risk. Did she ever consider that maybe the reason he didn’t tell her right away was because he was overwhelmed, feeling insecure, and still processing his own feelings about his circumstances?

She had the perfect opportunity to confront Mark during their get away and tell him, “Look, cut the shit. I know who you are and the fact that you don’t trust me enough to tell me is hurtful and makes me feel unimportant to you. Also, I can’t deal with all of the lies and broken promises and not being able to be there for you when you’ve been seriously hurt.”

Then again, not once did she mention caring about his health and safety, sooo, yeah.

I swear, when Amber rebuffed Mark after he finally opened up, I screamed in my mind like Faye does when Carol Ann and Barbara try pulling her off Christina in Mommie Dearest.

R153 I just realized how fucked up Amber is reading your comment. During the college visit, she already knew about Mark being a superhero, but berates him about "where he was" after he saved a whole bunch of lives because deep down she is still angry he hasn't told her himself?

That is something beyond entitled and self-absorbed. That's just plain nuts and I can't imagine a normal person reacting that way. Best they part now.

Exactly, R155. Compare that kind of crazy to Debbie’s - whom I absolutely love - fairly measured response to finding out her husband is a murderer, and it clearly highlights the other broad’s issues.

I was sort of rooting for them, too, but I’ve always wanted him with Eve anyway, so no big loss.

William being a fan of samurai movies felt like a str8 guy imposing his interests on a gay character. I know there are a lot of gay comicbook geeks, but what about samurai film fans?

R157 I’m sure there are at least a handful. I wouldn’t be attracted to William in real life but I find him adorable overall.

It is funny how every Viltrimite is a gay man's daddy fantasy.

R159 They draw Nolan fucking hot.

They all look like him. For some reason every male Viltraminte (full blood not like Mark) - is a hot colt daddy type. They are all literally drawn that way.

Oh my...

In the comics one of them impregnates a whole planet.

Sorry, if that has been mentioned before, but what I find refreshingly unusual about this animated show is that it features actual songs. What you usually get are either some original musical numbers or some nondescript sound bites, but never really a full on soundtrack with songs.

R164 I disagree with you somewhat. I feel like the real music they choose isn't that great and doesn't really fit the scenes where they're placed. I actually find it kind of jarring. Nothing wrong with using modern songs, but they need a better music director or whoever chooses that stuff to make sure it fits.

That being said, I do feel the one scene it all worked stylistically (the music, the colors) was when Omni-man destroys the entire alien planet.

I'd let hot daddy Nolan impregnate me as many times as he wants!

In episode seven I love the sight gag when Nolan / Omni-Man checks Mark's room and up close you see a pump bottle and box of tissues (partly hidden behind the desk lamp) with Nolan as Omni-Man in the background. LOL.

r165, I never claimed that I find their selection of songs great. Just that I noticed they are using actual songs which, to me, was quite surprising.

R164 I love the music but assumed the songs were recorded for the show specifically. Either way, they’re great!

[quote]It is funny how every Viltrimite is a gay man's daddy fantasy.

R159 What alpha male superheroes are not like some gay man's fantasy?

Oh dear, the Invincible porn is here...

Finally! But they better tread carefully with the other characters as age could be an issue.

R171 😂!

R172 I really don't think they care...

R174 omg.

Screen cap of Mark's ass.

It’s beautiful, R176.

r171 yeah most superheroes are big muscle men but the Viltrimies are all drawn like Tom of Findland characters with the 70's porn star mustache.

R176 That's the ass that started it all! Must be a gay on the production team bc what cartoon, albeit adult cartoon, shows bubble butt man ass on the half the screen and up close?

R179 😂

R82 and he is the voice of the principal!

R181 I looked him up before but never saw any mention of him being gay. Is it true?

Ol' Mister Bag of Dildos had a telling reaction to that question.

I can't wait for Friday so I can binge the season before watching the finale.

R183 well fuck me in my tight well toned ass! I did not know about Carl Winslow on the DL.

R184 You’ve held back?

Slightly....I waited for the 3rd and 7th episode to air so I could watch a few at a time. But I will watch all 8 on Friday.

I heard that Uncle Phil and Carl Winslow had some private dad time before James Avery got married. You can't help but imagine that Reg was the one getting opened up but I like to think that it was a flip-fuck marathon.

Are we done with this thread? No one has anything else to say?

I think posters waiting for the final episode of the season to comment about that.

I'm going to have to avoid this thread Thursday evening until I can watch the episode Friday evening.

Two days!

You think they're gonna show more Omni-butt?

R192 Girl, they do that every episode.

It is almost time. I am shuddering.

When does it drop on Amazon? midnight?

R195 Usually midnight on Thursday. I was able to view last week’s episode on Thursday (technically Friday) at 1 AM.

Just a few more hours muddafuddas!

good news

R198 Yas!

Oh nevermind it's already out on Amazon.

R200 Are in the poster in California?

Jeeze it’s super dark. This finale.

The subway scene just now. Dear god.

The darkest episode. But more a "realistic" depiction than the mostly bloodless Marvel movies.

R204 Are you in muthafuckin’ California or not?

Nope, EST.

Actually, episode is up for me too!

Glad to hear about the season renewals. I’m just wondering if the show will go as far as the comic, especially with that one very disturbing and controversial moment.

Central here and it was out a while ago.

Damn, Amber showed up.

Ugh yup Amber.

Mark Hamill voices Art the tailor. Wow.

Sooooooooo.... what happens now? Do we wait a year for the second season?

Maybe even longer, R213.

R14 I thought animation production was quick these days. That's why south park was able to churn out episodes talking about shit that was current at the time.

I’m crying.

They showed Mark’s asscrack lol.

A stunning and, for me, shattering episode. The most poignant episode of television so far this year.

That subway scene was horrific.

I thought Mark was going to go for the eyes in the fight. They kept focusing on omni's bloody eyes.

R212 Wow indeed! Thanks for letting us know. His Joker is iconic and fabulous.

R201 R205 I'm the one in California. The finale was available at 5pm PDT here for me. That happens to be midnight GMT, so maybe that's why.

R20 It’s so strange that they advertise new episodes as being released Friday when several people, myself included, have been able to watch them on Thursdays.

R223 Well, it's Friday somewhere in the world... lol

R222 I think they’ve dropped on Thursdays all along. A few of us on the east coast were able to see the season finale hours ago.

I had to take a break halfway through... the bloody carnage was just too much! Dinner first!

I think I'm developing a thing for mustaches after this show....

Really dark, but ... I'm wondering where Dad went and why now too.

It was ... sort of? ... a "happy" ending. But mostly just a calm in the storm, a foreboding feeling. Because apparently Invincible is quite vincible, but his dad is not. How can you stop that, let alone a whole team or army of them?

R226 lol. You cutie, you!

R228 I couldn’t help myself and a few weeks ago I looked up recaps of the comic book series on YouTube. As I’ve said before, the arc of this thing is EPIC. If you want to jump ahead, check out the video upthread.

Kirkman has confirmed that he’s already mapped out the arc for the series, which I am assuming will remain faithful to the comics.

Nolan is officially one of the worst dads in pop culture history. What a psychopathic piece of shit. If watching Mark get beat up like this, and by that other beast looking villain from a few episodes ago, becomes a regular thing, this series will get old for me QUICK!

SPOILER!

How are the flakkians (?) back? I thought omni destroyed their entire civilization and killed everyone?

Some clearly escaped.

I just found a site with all of the issues and trade paperbacks available for reading (see below; no downloading necessary), and while reading the introduction by Kurt Busiek for the first trade paperback, I was struck by the fact that his favorite character has sort of turned out to be mine. He writes:

[quote]I think my favorite character is Mark’s mom. Her casual acceptance of her family life, her tension when her “boys” are out of touch even by the reach of CNN, her matter-of-factness about the fantastic, that’s the glue that makes this book work. I want to see an annual, Invincible’s Mom, Debbie Grayson. It’s that aspect - not contrast, but melding - of Mark’s two worlds that makes Invincible so compelling.

This is so true. As much of a supporting character as she is, Debbie’s presence - her warmth, inherent decency, and cool pragmatism - is felt throughout the show. (Of course, this is in part due to the fact that Mark echos her best qualities, even at his most immature.) Throughout the course of this season, Debbie went from being the heart of the show to its driving force and, finally, it’s patron saint.

It was through Debbie’s eyes that I watched the first half of the finale and it broke me. I unintentionally recalled Jessica Lange’s pivotal scenes in “Music Box” - her embodiment of Dirk Bouts’ “Mater Dolorosa” (Sorrowing Virgin) - and, though I reflexively chuckled at my admittedly melodramatic response to the revelations, I couldn’t help but weep quietly and motionlessly to myself. I was totally taken aback.

Listening to and watching Nolan’s brutality, I cried thinking not only of Debbie and Mark’s shattered world but of my own father and his abuses of yore, and of the kind of mind and personality requisite for the type of horror and brutality that was on total and truly stunning display. The sense of superiority and frightening apathy that it takes for a person to brutalize not just strangers, but also loved ones, was sickening to watch, even in - or maybe especially because it is - a cartoon. I was reminded of the bigotry, racism, and prejudices that have plagued the human race for centuries and that continue to do so.

This show is brilliant at plummeting the viewer into the depths of the dire and despair, only to yank one out of those depths with dashes of charm, humor, whimsy, and, most importantly, hope. Still, I watched most of Nolan and Mark’s “exchange” through barely splayed fingers and I still feel a bit drained by it. Not so much because I can’t tell the difference between reality and a cartoon, but because the monsters of such myths walk amongst us.

Those likes and retweets though. The fans are psyched.

omg. Is this Cavill?

This has got to be his next role!

r232 because time moves faster in their dimension - so they could totally rebuild in months while it is centuries there. You can find out where Nolan went just by looking on Youtube for Invicible recaps of the comics - It is important because it is used more than once.

An excellent first season, and the ending made me excited for the next season. Amazon is really knocking it out of the park with the superhero series, which has been a nice contrast to the MCU dreck of the past decade.

Is it bad that I want the Viltrumites to win? I always root for the villain.

[quote] Is it bad that I want the Viltrumites to win? I always root for the villain.

R242 Oh my god, Nolan! How could you? 😭

So who would you pick as Mark in a live action version of this series? I’m liking Pietro Boselli, except he’s obviously too old to be in high school.

R244 I don’t think they will be able to adapt this for live action.

Incidentally, I plan on binging season 1 this weekend. What a fantastic show.

No, I understand that. This was purely a fantasy question.

I do like your choice, though, R244/R246.

R244 He would make a delicious Mark.

I was thinking a young Henry Goulding?

Not bad.

For Omniman, it'd be tough since JK Simmons' voice is so damn sexy. Maybe they could get him there with makeup? I don't know. Jon Hamm is a possibility but I think he's somehow too egotistical to play an omnipotent superhero.

These are mostly great suggestions. I think I'd swap Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Joe Manganiello. Is Lucy Liu too old to play Debbie?

Scott Glenn as Cecil.

Ryan Potter as Mark?

Jon Hamm as Omniman 😍 I do like the Henry Cavill concept art upthread. He’d make a great Omniman and it would be a literal 180 from his Superman.

I’m missing this show already 😭

Same here R256! I've been listening to the Spotify playlist on repeat.

If you like it go out and buy the comics - support the artists.

R257 I hadn’t thought of doing that… Why didn’t you share this sooner?!

So far, only two songs have stuck out to me while making my way through the playlist: “Knock Me Off My Feet” by SOAK, which is ebullient if a bit twee, and…

“Broken Boy” by Cage the Elephant. It took me a minute to figure out what song this tune reminded me of but I finally did: “White Wedding” by Billy Idol, which I love.

“White Wedding”

If you liked Broken Boy, check out Black Madonna by the same band.

I also like might not make it home

And hard to kill by Bleached

I just fell in love with “Let It All Go” (feat. Álvaro Soler) by Birdy 😭

Also, “No Ordinary” by Labrinth…

For those who don’t have Spotify, here’s the YouTube playlist:

Looooove Labyrinth. His solo stuff and the album with Sia and Diplo.