NYC: 65 Y.O. Asian woman kicked to ground and stomped, doorman does nothing.

NYPD is asking around

The video is brutal. The doorman should have been fired immediately.

It was in Hell's Kitchen. DLers, some of you live around there, right? Seen the guy?

Wow. No words for the doorman.

Both security guards were fired R5.

Jesus Christ, can't NYC do something about their fucking schizos already? They're outnumbering the rats. Send them all to a remote island or something!

Some of you NYC bitches must live in that building - did you see anything?

I read that this monster broke her pelvis. Poor lady. Sometimes I don't miss the city to much.

-From my perch in the Hudson Valley

Huge man stomps on petite woman multiple times. She’s in serious condition. I mean, how is that not fatal? Broken ribs, punctured lungs, etc.

Such a big strong man. He must be so proud of himself.

[quote] It was in Hell's Kitchen. DLers, some of you live around there, right? Seen the guy?

I'm sure lots have seen him regularly screaming into the void.

This is why we need cameras everywhere. Surely there’s more footage of him from cameras on either side of the building. For blocks.

The way the security guard just calmly closes the door. THAT IS COLD!!!

The security guards were suspended, not fired. Their union is going to try to prevent that.

The suspect punched and kicked the 65-year-old victim in front of an apartment building at 360 West 43 Street around 11:40 a.m. Monday, yelling “F–k you, you don’t belong here,” according to cops and police sources

R6, do you have a link? I can’t find anything saying they were fired.

Security guards (the ones not carrying firearms, anyway) are specifically trained to "observe and report"; anything more is considered the job of LEOs.

I suppose they could make a citizen's arrest, but it's not encouraged.

They’ve been suspended —not fired.

They’ll keep their jobs. Union.

White supremacy!

R18, did they report?

Humans are specifically trained to help someone hurt once the coast is clear.

I don't give a shit about their training, as a HUMAN BEING how do you not intervene? How do you just shut the door?

Not in my job description.

Kitty Genovese redux.

That's the real unadulterated New York City you're seeing in that video folks. Vicious animals stomping little old Asian ladies to the ground and ruining their lives, and cold unfeeling doormen shutting the door in their faces.

I believe the assailant is gay porn's own Ray Diesel!

Why are people freaking out like this suddenly against Asians? What's happening? This shit is insane.

That guys looks like he's probably mentally unstable to me.

R24, apparently the story of what happened to Kitty - well, what the neighbors actually did - is quite different. Neighbors actually did call the cops, etc.

The NY Times left out that info - about people helping. Intentionally.

We need to bring back sanatoriums. Too many crazy people out on the streets.

R29, aren't prisons cheaper? We need more life terms w/o parole for violent crime.

Just farm it out to CoreCivic and Geo Group. Easy.

People don't want to get involved. I could tell you stories of professionals that would rather just keep their mouths shut when they have an opportunity to make a difference, but...It still shocks me what cowards most people are.

Thanks, Reagan!

R31, it’s not cowardice...it’s common sense. A basic tent of self defense is don’t put yourself in danger trying to help others. People should call the police and try to distract the assailant, but too many people have died trying to be the hero.

Even after the assailant person has left? People won't help?

I don't get it. You see an injured dog on the road, you get out and help. Surely here it was easy to help.

Also, do we know whether they even called the cops? The doormen - did they at least call the police? I don't think so.

I took a look at the Street View of that building and ironically there is a cop on a horse outside.

Assaults on Asians have been happening for a long time. It’s just now getting attention.

[quote]It’s just now getting attention.

I wonder who’s next?

This is so heartbreaking...I really thought there would be a shift in hate related violence with Trump gone. Hopefully, that will come soon.

Unfortunately no one drove their car into him as he was crossing the road.

R36, so what? You can say the same about any group: the point is that rates are skyrocketing, and we have video.

Saying they've always been happening doesn't minimize them. But neither is it an indictment of the public consciousness.

You're not superior here.

Unfortunately, mentally ill people are attacking anyone and everyone. It’s much easier for them without the usual NYU crowds of commuters and tourists.

She must have been a terrible tipper around Christmas or an unpopular resident for the doorman to just sit there. Always be kind to your help or else they may not go above and beyond in your time of need.

I hope the old girl make it out alright. Just crazy for someone to randomly hurt a person just for existing.

R42, I don't think she lived there. No indication of that. She was passing by.

If they were "approaching each other" on the sidewalk (NYT article), and happened to meet in front of the building, it suggests that she wasn't exiting the building but rather approaching it opposite the attacker.

The hate definitely needs to stop Period. But I want to say this. Asians put they're businesses in black neighborhoods and gauge prices in low income poor neighborhoods to get rich off of poor POC and they do that shit on purpose.

Asians are not innocent by no stretch of the imagination at all. They've done underhanded shit in minority neighborhoods for decades and have gotten away with it. All of the shit we see happening isn't coming from no where, there's a decades long history of bas blood between blacks and Asians that people are starting to talk about.

I've been seeing a lot of Asians talk about anto black racism within their own communities and just how real it really is. There are long standing issues between the two groups a lot of people won't deny.

I just wanted to put this out there.

I wish her a speedy recovery, but if things go south... can I have her stuff?

Born and raised in Harlem. Asians have been victimized by black people for years nothing new. Covid has brought to a new level what was already going on for years. As for Asians being racist, well yes probably but they are not going around bashing black people so there is that. It’s the truth .

Thank's r43, I've been meaning to test the block feature on here. Goodbye, you puss filled ingrown-hair looking cunt.

Someone said here that we’ll see another 90s style crime bill. How would that work in today’s woke world? There would have to be a very courageous Democrat.

Asians get away with a lot of shit and done so for decades. They are not innocent.

I don't condone what happened to the 65 year old Asian woman, but Asians by in large part are not helpless victims. They are problematic in many ways.

And many if them think their white, but they found out otherwise after that Atlanta shooting. Especially after what that white supremacist police officer said at that press conference after the shootings. White people will always remain you of your place and they are finding out what it really is.

[quote] The hate definitely needs to stop Period. But I want to say this. Asians put they're businesses in black neighborhoods and gauge prices in low income poor neighborhoods to get rich off of poor POC and they do that shit on purpose.

The Jews did the same last century in the same neighborhoods. They're just building businesses, offering products and services: no one has to patronize them. Consumers as individuals choose to do so. Pricing is determined by what the market will accept. A business isn't a fucking charity.

[quote] Asians are not innocent by no stretch of the imagination at all. They've done underhanded shit in minority neighborhoods for decades and have gotten away with it. All of the shit we see happening isn't coming from no where, there's a decades long history of bas blood between blacks and Asians that people are starting to talk about.

What kind of underhanded shit? I can think of one act of violence by an Asian against a black person, and it was tragic but it was singular.

[quote] I've been seeing a lot of Asians talk about anto black racism within their own communities and just how real it really is. There are long standing issues between the two groups a lot of people won't deny.

Everyone is racist, you disingenuous fuck. The question is who's committing violent acts on the basis of that racism. Watching a black kid in your store or saying "You looking, you buy!" isn't violence—it's a microaggression, and those don't by any stretch of the imagination outweigh actual violence. "She was disrespecting me—she looked at me the wrong way" doesn't even justify a shove. Well, among rational adults with normal IQs.

The violence is overwhelmingly one way. It just needs to stop with policing, prosecution, and prison.

No one deserves to be randomly attacked for no reason walking down a street, because of some long-seeded racial tension. These are LIVES, they are human beings and deserve intervention when violence happens. It's not ok to blame any one ethnic group or groups for your problems. Be a human, say something, call 911. It's not ok to stand idly by when you see someone being beaten to probable death.

[quote] I don't condone what happened to the 65 year old Asian woman, but Asians by in large part are not helpless victims. They are problematic in many ways.

"Problematic" because they're racist? So is everyone—so are you: you're grouping people as a race, and judging them. So fucking what? The question is who's being assaulted and murdered.

[quote] And many if them think their white, but they found out otherwise after that Atlanta shooting. Especially after what that white supremacist police officer said at that press conference after the shootings. White people will always remain you of your place and they are finding out what it really is.

R50, you're Black, aren't you? Only Black people care whether Asian people "think they're white". Only Black people keep repeating "White people are going keep you in your place—Asians think highly of themselves, but White people will never accept or respect them."

Only Black people care so desperately what White people think, and whether White people respect them or another group. Because they see white people as Daddy, and they can't stand that Daddy doesn't love them or respect them. Asians don't give a fuck.

No Asian thinks he/she is white. They just like white people. JFC, you dense fucks.

R50, you have serious race neuroses, but I mean, so does everyone else. But you don't even recognize them as neuroses. They're distorting your view of reality.

R45 what a bunch of racist gibberish that started with lip service to anti racism but followed by justification for violence against Asians. Asian immigrants have stores in black neighborhoods because it’s cheaper to do business there. The immigrants who do that aren’t exactly rolling in $$$ or top scholars in their native countries. Fact is, no one wants to do business in black neighborhoods not even chain stores because there’s too much risk involved, including financial (theft, robbery) and human costs (employees injured during crimes). So it’s a symbiotic relationship between these Asian merchants and people from the communities which they serve.

Using your own logic, I can also make a case for Asian store owners justifying racism against black people. They’re openly called racist names by black people, they get robbed by black people, see shoplifting by black people, violently attacked by black people, on tv/ newspapers see crime stories including murders and gang killings committed by black people. Their kids in inner city schools also get racist epithets thrown at them by black kids. And you’re saying this is all Asians making much ado about nothing? That they can’t form prejudices based upon their own experience? That they’re responsible for black racism or violent attacks by black people.

My job is to open the door and close the door. I did my job. I’m good doorman. What happens outside, not my job.

R50 you need to go get retraining to get back your human card. You say you don’t condone violence against Asians but then go on to provide excuses for them being assaulted and killed. They’re part of the problem and not blameless nor helpless. You sound like you’d belong in the committee to round up Jews during height of Hitler’s reign in Germany. What you’re basically doing is assigning bad traits to Asians as moral justifications and excuses for violence committed against them.

As an extra layer of justification, you added that Asians think they’re white. No they don’t. Also what if some think like white people, so the fuck what? Care to qualify what “think like white people” means? Define it and define how Asians think like white people. You sound like that racist cunt Alison Collins, VP of SF School Board, who saw nothing wrong with saying Asians are house “n*****s who actively participate in white supremacy” because they use education and hard work to succeed.

Simple Fact:

Blacks HATE Asians

R48 I have one person ever blocked on DL and that is r43. I encourage everyone to block him and I encourage him to go outside.

R57 No the majority don’t, the ones who do are criminals who see them as easy targets and SJW woke idiots who buy into leftist race fantasies or Critical Race Theory like that Alison Collins cunt.

Simple Fact - Part 2:

Asians HATE Blacks

It's both sad and hilarious that while drawing attention to anti-Asian violence, people can't resist implying blacks are violent, lazy, worthless, blah, blah, blah. Even

I have noticed that while highlighting the reasons Asians open businesses in black neighborhoods, some posters only focus on how cheap it is. That says so, so much. Asians don't care about contributing to the community, making a customer feel special for a moment, or providing opportunities to young people. Nope, it all comes down to $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

I live in a gentrified neighborhood where young, mostly white people, are opening businesses. Even if they want to make money, all they can talk about is their excitement about being a part of the community, and they're always quick to recognize repeat customers.

Asians don't give a shit.

Thank God I don't live in New York.

R60, if you need all that feel-good stuff from a business, and if you need people to embrace your identity, you're a fucking baby.

I didn't realize so many Blacks were White supremacists.

R63- WRONG

Many Blacks are BLACK SUPREMICISTS.

R52 I think you “deep-seated.”

I think you mean ^

SUPREMACISTS not supremicists

Is that why they call Diana Ross "The Boss?"

R60 I don’t think Asians go out of their way to make white shoppers “feel good,” either. That may in part or whole be cultural. Imagine an English speaking American moving to Japan and opening a shop; it’s likely that you, as the shop proprietor, will come off awkwardly/rudely in your unfamiliarity with the language and manners of your new society.

I would like for someone to clarify what people mean by “Asians act white.” I hope they aren’t referring to their work ethic as to school. That would terribly sad and also untrue. Asians don’t just work hard in US schools due to white influence. They work hard in schools in their own countries. Hard work doesn’t belong to one group. Anyone can work hard in school and do well.

R60 what does it say that asians open businesses in black neighborhoods due to lower rents? Should they not open businesses?

R60 there’s an acceptance of criminality in black culture. 30% of black men had/ have felony convictions, that’s more than percentage of black men with bachelor’s degree or higher. It wasn’t always like this, unresolved racism resulting from slavery and social welfare programs displacing black family unit did a lot to fuck black people over. But black people must also take responsibility for what is wrong with culture today. Blaming others and society for personal actions, acceptance of criminality as part of life, paying lip service to empowerment but bemoaning they can’t do it without $$$/ resources/ preferential treatment.

Perfect example is that Virginia Beach shooting yesterday. Now NAACP is calling for protests and investigations into police actions. Why not call out the dumbfuck partiers who caused violence in the first place by firing into the crowd, thereby inviting the cops to go out there? No accountability only blame.

[quote] I hope they aren’t referring to their work ethic as to school. That would terribly sad

Yes, it is sad.

People rationalizing unprovoked attacks on Asians with "but Asians are racist too, etc," I'm sure you are overjoyed when people point out George Floyd's criminal and violent background and that he was possibly under the influence of drugs? Or that police are wrong to use force against blacks but hey statistically, blacks have the highest criminal rates? Problematic isn't it.

R61- Thank god I don't take the Subway ( seeing what happened to that Asian guy on the subway.)

Mama-san should've carried a handgun. It would've taken care of those uppity... people.

Another simple fact:

Most Blacks HATE FAGGOTS.

At Dallas BBQ in Chelsea in 2016 a black man beat up a gay couple and smashed a chair over the head of one of them.

That woman might’ve been attacked due to her age, stature and perceived weakness, not so much her ethnicity. I don’t think Rick Moranis was attacked due to his identity or race but because he is a slight, elderly man.

R76 is our resident pedo troll. Was wondering how long it would take for him to show up 😒

[quote] Simple Fact - Part 2: Asians HATE Blacks

I'm asian and I love blacks, specifically their BBC.

Joking aside, I hope and trust the guy will be arrested. He must be mentally ill. Nobody in his right mind will kick a frail, older, defenseless for woman just like that. Oh and the guards are just cowards and self-serving.

[quote] Most Blacks HATE FAGGOTS.

You couldn’t say gays? Why the f-word? You use “blacks” but not the n-word.

R76's incident.

R81- He looks like a character from OZ.

Guy at R81 said it was self-defense.

15 prior arrests. Wowsers.

R71 You talk about black people blaming others and not taking responsibility.

You can say the same shit about white people and the horrible shit they've done the last 500 years to black people and how they blame everyone else (especially) black Americans for their position in this country and how things ended up the way they currently are.

White people have a lot to answer for but refuse to answer. White people have no room to say shit about another group period. The blood that flows from the hands of white society is plentiful.

White people should be the last group of people speaking on anyone else. The room just isn't there.

[quote]White people have a lot to answer for but refuse to answer.

White people today or the one’s who are dead.

At one point the Black community acted "white". Perhaps this belongs in the 1950's thread but beach then they had traditional family units and valued education and hard work despite social obstacles. Not sure when that went off the rails but I've heard too much "you actin white" when someone tries to speak eloquently or study hard.

R85 Even if that were true (and it isn’t) about white ppl, how does that excuse violence against Asians?

R81- He looks like the black cop on Six Feet Under.

R45, and if the Asians didn’t put their businesses there, who would? Are they running off some benevolent competition who is just dying for the chance to do business behind bulletproof glass?

It’s a pretty complex issue. Talk to any Yemeni or Latino bodega owner and see if they’re getting rich exploiting those communities. Maybe they live in a slightly nicer neighborhood in Bumfuck, Queens.

There was a big Pathmark on E. 125th St. It’s gone now; wonder why. Are big box stores fighting to cover that territory? Are they getting enough incentive from politicians to service those communities? Maybe CVS and Target will

Three grown men shut the doors on an elderly injured woman when there is no real threat to themselves. Maybe the assailant has mental illness as an excuse. Those men have no excuse. If I was one of their children I would make sure I had as little contact with them as possible in the future. I wouldn’t be able to bring myself to look at them again.

[quote] Assaults on Asians have been happening for a long time. It’s just now getting attention.

Gee, I wonder why the media is pretending like it cares about discrimination against Asians?

R91 yes I’d be ashamed of the three men if they were my family. Not even asking how hurt she was, instead just close the door on her. Those are not the actions of caring human beings I don’t care how scared they were. At least say something to the lady and tell her you’re getting help. They just stood there watching her be attacked, no one picked up the phone to call 911. Closing the fucking door was the cherry on top of this sort of antisocial behavior.

I think its getting more attention because of the proliferation of both citizen made videos and security cameras. Attacks are being recorded and disseminated over social media.

Do all victims of recorded acts of violence receive the same attention/sympathy/information sharing? That’s an interesting question. I would argue that videos involving Asian victims are simply receiving more attention now because they fit the latest fad of “I support Asians!” on social media.

R90 There is a Target at 125th now. That area has gentrified quite a bit, that is west Harlem.

[quote] There was a big Pathmark on E. 125th St. It’s gone now; wonder why.

Because Pathmark went out of business, moron.

There’s a fucking Whole Foods in 125th.

This is the new normal in NY shitty. Also over the weekend an Asian man was beaten unconscious on the subway as other passengers watched and filmed it and a uniformed, on-duty female NYC police officer was assaulted in a subway station and as per the NY Post today 3/20/2021 a woman stabbed a man on the Queens A train, Cops are looking for a Black SUV following shooting in lower Manhattan, a man unleashes anti-Asian attack at a NYC Home Depot, a man was busted for shoving kids off bikes in Washington Square Park, a man was carjacked on a busy Brooklyn street in broad daylight!

Just another day in the big crapple!

^ NY Post 3/30/21

Didn't it turn out that the guy in R81 was gay himself?

Uh huh, and then the Whole Foods comes to the neighborhood and people complain that they’re trying to gentrify it. Or the big corporations are pushing out the mom and pop businesses and exploiting the neighborhood.

Same old same old.

[quote] Security guards (the ones not carrying firearms, anyway) are specifically trained to "observe and report"; anything more is considered the job of LEOs.

Did they at least call 911?

NY has a Mayor and a Governor who haven't addressed let alone do anything about the 300% spike in crime over the last 10 months and the "startling crime surge last week" according to the NYPD and as I'm writing this another murder in NYC is being reported: A Man Shot to Death on East Harlem Basketball Court as well as a story involving city mortuary workers accused of swiping corpses' credit cards!

No they didn’t call 911, if they had their shitty employers would’ve told us and they wouldn’t have suspended the two antisocial cowards.

[quote]Did they at least call 911?

They better had called 9-1-1, if the incident was in the report; and the incident had better be in the report.

[quote] Gee, I wonder why the media is pretending like it cares about discrimination against Asians?

Shove it, R92.

Anything near 42nd is a shithole due to the high presence of crackhead, homeless and crazies that come from or congregate around Port authority.

I hope the security men are fired. Its one thing to not get involved in an active fight but to not even ask if she's ok or see if she's alive? Call the cops These? These door men have absolutely no concern for her - most likely because she is an Asian. That's a big concern as a big chunk ofnpeople living in these luxury buildings are Asian.

R88 Actually it is TRUE!!!!

American history doesn't lie, historical film footage dosen't lie. White society does have a lot to answer for, how could you say they don't?

R69

East Asian immigrant business owners are hostile to everyone. It's their kids who are enculturated enough to be warm and friendly like Americans expect.

I saw an anecdote from a black professor on Twitter recently that he once polled his black and white students about how many incidents of rudeness they experienced in a week. The average was four for both white and black students, but the black students attributed half to racism. Someone being rude isn't racism unless you know they're treating someone of a different race better.

Why don't you sit on an umbrella, R105.

Regardless of where Asian immigrants set up their businesses, the fact is many in the black community hate them for being successful. It's the same reason anti-Semitism is common in the black community despite Jews being strong supporters of civil rights historically (and presently).

And no one can tell me that members of the black underclass going ultraviolent lately isn't due to the events, and propaganda, of the past year. The two biggest factors are loss of respect and fear of police and the establishment officially claiming that ALL black people's problems are due to racism.

R104 — Huh?

I hope that fucker is caught soon.

NY has a Mayor and a Governor who haven't addressed let alone do anything about the 300% spike in crime over the last 10 months

What are you talking about, R102, the Mayor has taken decisive action

R45 fuck off racist

And no o e on the media I’d even admitting that the perpetrators are usually Black. Though they are putting up photos.

Remember when that Latino girl (who everyone called a white woman at first) tackled that black teenager thinking he stole her phone in NYC and it was on the news on a loop for weeks? They chased her down in LA and she had that terrible interview with her annoyed lawyer.

None of these attacks are getting the same attention. Two teenagers killed a Pakistani Uber eats driver.

It's actually extremely racially motivated coverage and lack of coverage.

R115, tonight on PBS News Hour, Judy Woodruff made it clear the assailant was black. She introduced the story with, “Tonight, a violent black man who only got into college because of affirmative action, physically assaulted a successful Asian woman out of jealousy.” There was also a 5-minute video montage of black people committing crimes.

[quote] Tonight, a violent black man who only got into college because of affirmative action

Well, that certainly narrows it down.

All this racial divisiveness is a tactic by the banks to deflect attention from their corruption. Remember Occupy Wall Street? No one does - we’re too busy talking about micro-aggressions, BLM, Antifa, white fragility, white supremacy, trans/JK Rowling.

LOL, R117. You had me there, until about 1/3 of the way through.

R119, I really hope you’re joking?

R85, WTF? I have nothing to answer for! You do not want black people labeled, but can make sweeping generalizations about another group of people?

I hope this guy is caught, locked up and the key thrown away. However, based on what I am seeing in NYC, he will be back on the streets thanks to bail reform.

R120 I am not joking. It’s all a diversion and it’s working. Big banking is behind BLM, the “woke” movement, the “burn it down” mentality. We’re being manipulated.

What's really chilling to me is his smug face when he walked away after doing so much harm to another person. It really shows how much of a sociopath this guy is. No sign of remorse or guilt after essentially attempting to kill a stranger in broad daylight.

Mental illness, R123.

Wonton!

If a policeman came onto this scene and shot him, would BLM cry for this guy?

Absolutely, R126. Are you kidding?

R113 What next? An ice-bucket challenge!

The news report claimed they called 911. I hope they are not lying.

That area has a few hotels housing the homeless. Is this man homeless?

I read that she made eye contact with home, which is a big no no.

It's time to revive Jules Feiffer's NY set play Little Murders. It's prescient and seems less far-fetched than in the early 70s. The Alan Arkin directed film version (1971) is worth a watch.

I just bought that film on Blu ray last week, R130!

Those doormen looked huge on the video, and yet they act like cowards! Esp that man who closed the door.

As I posted on another thread, crime rate is high and an elderly man was robbed while waiting for the bus, a doorman chased the robber away with a broom or something. This was on 57 the street in manhattan two months ago.

Seattle BLM activist arrested for attacks on Asian women and children.

The Hell's kitchen attacker has been arrested. 38 year old Brandon Elliot, on "lifetime parole" (what is that?) for various crimes including the murder of his mother.

[quote] No sign of remorse or guilt after essentially attempting to kill a stranger in broad daylight.

That was Obama's reaction after he droned all those people at a wedding too.

But is it Xi’s (aka Winnie the Pooh) reaction when thousands of Rohingya are kept in concentration camps and brutalized by their savage, sub-human captors, R135?

That deserves a thread of its own, R133!

What the guy did is uncalled for, but supposedly she called him the N-word.

[quote] Authorities are urging members of the public not to rush to judgement.

If the people involved were of different races, the authorities themselves would be the ones rushing to judgement.

[quote]That area has a few hotels housing the homeless. Is this man homeless?

Yes. Police got tips about a crazy homeless person who was staying at a hotel that is for homeless people. They watched, waited and that's how they found him.

This man killed his mother when he was 19 years old. Jail isn't about reforming people. Whatever screws he had loose before they are apparently even more screwy.

I guess blame bill de blasio! He's the one who put the homeless into hotels!!!

[quote] Jail isn't about reforming people.

Some people cannot be fixed. That is why we have life sentences, and in the more rational places, the death penalty.

[quote] Police said Brandon Elliot, 38, is the man seen on video kicking and stomping the woman on Monday. They said Elliot was living at a hotel that serves as a homeless shelter a few blocks from the scene of the attack.

[quote] Elliot was convicted of stabbing his mother to death in the Bronx in 2002, when he was 19. He was released from prison in 2019 and is on lifetime parole.

[quote] He faces charges of assault as a hate crime, attempted assault as a hate crime, assault and attempted assault in Monday’s attack, police said. It wasn’t immediately known whether he had a lawyer who could speak on his behalf.

I saw this on GMA today. Zero mention of the fact that this guy had killed his mother. No mention he was homeless and on parole. Everything is hate crime and nothing about the issue of rising crime involving the homeless.

Has the NYT covered any aspect of this? I assume not since it involved a black man. A white guy attacking an Asian would definitely be front page for at least a day.

What is that business that shut the door on that woman? Anybody know?

As crime gets worse expect more indifference, if the police are afraid to do their job don’t expect average people to jump in.

R145, it was an apt building? I think.

Where did R138 get this information, and why does he already have 27 WWs?

I have no idea, R148. That seems to be a thing here—the astronomical upvotes.

[quote]Has the NYT covered any aspect of this?

He was arrested only late last night. I would expect the Times' take is coming shortly.

[quote]What is that business that shut the door on that woman? Anybody know?

An apartment building. He was the doorman. I live in a 24 hour doorman building in Chelsea and know that both his union rules and building management policies would have forbidden him from becoming involved. But he would be expected to call 911 immediately.

[quote]What is that business that shut the door on that woman? Anybody know?

R145, The Brodsky Organization. They already suspended the men (but they're union.) They're also looking for a delivery person was there that did nothing.

[quote]why does he already have 27 WWs?

It's a troll thing. Usually it happens in threads where one person will say something racist and then suddenly they'll have like 35 likes when everyone else has 0-3. There's usually a group of people doing it and not necessarily one person with multiple accounts. Used to happen all the time in election threads.

Not sure some older lady from the Philippines on her way to church doesn’t commonly uses the n word. Maybe his mother was mean to him also so she deserved to die.

[quote]It's a troll thing. Usually it happens in threads where one person will say something racist and then suddenly they'll have like 35 likes when everyone else has 0-3.

It looks like they’re upvoting themselves after accusing the woman of using a racial slur without any fact.

Thanks R151, I'd seen the huge numbers of WWs before but I don't think I've ever seen it happen so quickly.

I also upvoted R151...by accident. Didn’t mean to.

He has been arrested. Its some homeless loon who killed his mom.

R156 see R143

r157, see r134.

[quote] Yes. Police got tips about a crazy homeless person who was staying at a hotel that is for homeless people. They watched, waited and that's how they found him.

That doesn't sound right. Local news is saying he was arrested on the Lower East Side, which is several miles from Times Square. But maybe they had been following him from there.

That said, I live in Manhattan and am really upset by de Blasio's decisions regarding the homeless. I'm sorry to say many of them have severe mental issues which are no longer addressed effectively. Or at all.

So if he's homeless and on parole, that means no one was checking up on him. Great system. Let murders out and don't care what they are up too

De Blasio gave his wife a billion dollars from the City budget to help the homeless. The bulk of it has disappeared.

R148, r138 is joking. It’s a reference to that attack on the subway the other day where a witness said the victim said the N-word to the attacker.

Also, turns out the victim was Latino. From the Times article about the OP incident yesterday.

[quote] In another video that went viral this week, a man was beaten and choked on a subway train in Brooklyn in what appeared initially to be another anti-Asian hate crime. The video, posted on social media, showed fellow riders shouting at the attacker to stop without stepping into the fight.

[quote] On Tuesday, however, a law enforcement official said that police now believe the victim was Hispanic and the violence may have started when he called his attacker, who was Black, a racial slur.

So it's ok to attack Hispanic people.

R153, don’t be dense. R138 is goofing. See r162.

R164, everyone was jumping to the attacker’s defense saying “See, Asian people use the N-word”. Turns out the victim Asian, whether or not he used that word.

Maya Wiley will fix the city 🤣

Turns out the victim *is Latino, whether or not he used that word.

r161, The Democratic Party in New York is incredibly corrupt, on both a state and city level. I of course vote Democratic well over 90% of the time but I revel with enjoyment in Cuomo's and De Blasio's passionate hate for each other and their constant attempts to undermine each other.

Surely the Manhattan DA is investigating De Blasio's wife's "charity".

NLRB is counting the votes. Should take a bit of time. I saw 2 weeks in an article yesterday.

Sorry, everyone. Wrong thread.

Wait, which victim was Latino?

Also, joke or not, “she called him the N-word” doesn’t deserve 27 W&Ws. It’s not that funny. I think the majority of those upvotes are from the anti-Asian troll, the “nothing is ever black people’s fault” DLer who always posts in these threads.

R173, the male victim in the subway attack is Latino, not Asian as previously reported. The link is an example of the original reporting. A NY Post article posted earlier in the deleted thread on this attack said that a witness claimed that he victim said the N-word.

The male victim in the subway attack, according to the Times piece above, is Latino.

R173 You’re right and he upvotes himself. I guess he thinks seeing W/Ws will convince others he’s right. He is clearly simple-minded.

Interesting, R174. Thanks. It looks like every media outlet that reported it called him Asian. What is his actual, erm, country of origin?

Wow, R176, you’re obsessed with race!

I believe Filipino, R176.

[quote]A NY Post article posted earlier in the deleted thread on this attack said that a witness claimed that he victim said the N-word.

Was this confirmed?

The woman attacked is Filipino.

She didn't call him the N word ffs! It's posted by the damn troll who did it in other threads.

R178 is mistaken. The female victim stomped in front of the apartment building is Filipino.

The male victim of the subway attack is Latino.

Thank you for korrecting my kween.

*me

The female victim was heading to church. That huge man nearly killed a 65-year-old petite Filipina lady headed to church. JFC.

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Man Arrested in Anti-Asian Attack Was on Parole for Killing Mother

Brandon Elliot, who killed his mother two decades ago, was arrested early Wednesday and charged with the brutal assault on a Filipino woman near Times Square.

By Michael Gold

March 31, 2021, 11:04 a.m. ET

A homeless man who was out on parole for killing his mother was arrested and charged with a hate crime early Wednesday morning in connection with a violent attack on a Filipino immigrant near Times Square, the police said.

The man, Brandon Elliot, 38, was living at a hotel in Midtown Manhattan that has been serving as a homeless shelter, the police said. He was charged with felony assault as a hate crime, attempted assault as a hate crime and separate assault and attempted assault charges.

The police said that Mr. Elliot was the man seen on security footage brutally assaulting Vilma Kari, 65, who was walking down a city street on Monday morning.

The video shows a man police believe to be Mr. Elliot kicking Ms. Kari in the chest outside a luxury apartment building. After she staggers back and collapses onto the sidewalk, he then kicks her repeatedly in the head. A police official said that he then shouted an obscenity at her and said “You don’t belong here.”

Several workers in the building’s lobby were shown in the video appearing to do nothing to intervene, with one man, a security guard, closing the front door to the building after the attack.

The horrifying footage spread widely across social media and in news reports, intensifying the outrage and fear caused by an increasing number of reports of anti-Asian hate crimes across the nation in recent weeks.

Mr. Elliot was convicted of second-degree murder after fatally stabbing his mother, Bridget Johnson, three times in the heart in the Bronx in 2002, when he was 19, according to state records and news reports.

He was sentenced to a minimum of 15 years to life in prison and was released on parole in November 2019, after he had served 16 years, according to state corrections records.

Officers arrested Mr. Elliot on the Lower East Side early Wednesday morning, the police said. It was not immediately clear whether he had a lawyer representing him.

Anti-Asian bias crimes have risen sharply during the pandemic, according to police departments across the country. Many of them have been triggered by people falsely blaming Asian-Americans for spreading the coronavirus.

So far this year, the New York Police Department has investigated 33 anti-Asian attacks as hate crimes, exceeding the 28 it investigated in all of last year. Many of the victims in these cases have been middle-aged men and women who were alone on public transit or, like Ms. Kari, on city streets.

Given the public nature of these attacks, the actions — or inaction — of bystanders have come under particular scrutiny. In the attack on Ms. Kari, the seeming indifference of the employees who worked at the luxury building, at 360 West 43rd Street, drew particular outrage.

The building’s management company, the Brodsky Organization, said that the employees who witnessed the attack had been suspended pending an investigation.

Kyle Bragg, the president of 32BJ SEIU, the union representing staff members, issued a statement saying the door staff had immediately called for help, urging the public “to avoid a rush to judgment” until that investigation had concluded.

On Wednesday morning, a group of tenants of the building issued a statement of support for those employees, saying that the security footage distributed by the Police Department was shortened in a way that did not show the full extent of the staff’s response.

“Upon review of the FULL video-recorded incident, we do not believe the 360 West doormen staff have failed us as residents, our Midtown Manhattan community, nor our fellow AAPI New Yorkers,” the statement said.

Ms. Kari and her family could not immediately be reached for comment on Wednesday morning. She was discharged from N.Y.U. Langone Hospital Tuesday evening, hospital officials said.

[quote] Wow, [R176], you’re obsessed with race!

Apparently so is the entire fucking country, in case you haven’t noticed.

I’m not “obsessed”, I just find it interesting to observe the trends in reporting about these crimes.

Was she a new immigrant? Everybody knows you should NOT make eye contact with questionable people in the streets. esp crazy people. DO NOT LOOK THEM IN THE EYE.

there are lots of crazy fuckers out there!

Esp after covid. look if up! lots of people develop mental problems after recovering from covid.

"A new study out from The Lancet found that 20 percent of COVID-19 patients are diagnosed with a psychiatric disorder within 90 days after the COVID diagnosis." (from nov 2020)

Busted

R188, is there any suggestion anywhere that she made eye contact?

Or are you just flailing about, searching for some way to place some blame on the victim?

Elliot was staying at the Four Points by Sheraton, a converted city-run homeless shelter on West 40th Street, when he attacked the victim, VIlma Kari, unprovoked.

Some 300 homeless men were recently moved to the Sheraton hotel shelter from one at a former DoubleTree Hotel on West 36th Street following complaints from Hell’s Kitchen residents of drug use and fighting, Patch reported in January.

R190----

On Tuesday, the victim’s daughter’s boyfriend told The Post that her attacker “locked eyes” with her — then beat her so mercilessly that “she wasn’t there” after the first blow.

“She said he was walking towards her and he locked eyes with her,” said the woman’s daughter’s boyfriend, who gave his first name, Luca. “She tried to avoid him, like how people do when you walk in New York City, but he came right for her. After the first hit, she wasn’t even there. I can’t see how she got up from that.”

The victim was rushed to NYU Langone Hospital, where she was listed in stable condition, authorities said.

Elliot was being held at a Midtown police precinct pending his arraignment.

In April 2002, Elliot was charged with murder for using a kitchen knife to stab his mother, Bridget Johnson in the chest three times in their East 224th Street home in the Bronx, according to previous reports.

The deadly attack took place in front of Elliot’s 5-year-old sister, sources told The Post. It’s unclear what led to the slaying.

Johnson, 42, died a couple of days later.

Elliot was convicted of murder and sentenced to 15 years-to-life in prison.

He was denied parole twice — first at a February 2017 hearing and again in December 2018, according to a state Department of Corrections official.

But the following year, he was approved for release in September and sprung on lifetime parole two months later.

A spokeswoman for the Bronx District Attorney’s Office said Elliot pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in March 2002 but did not immediately have other details on the case.

Elliot’s rap sheet also includes an arrest for allegedly robbing his mother in July 2000, sources said. The pair had gotten into a squabble over money — when he allegedly yanked jewelry from her neck and choked her, the sources added.

And advocates for homeless people were up in arms about the Upper West Side residents who complained about the same stuff when they turned a building into a flophouse for the homeless. And all the SJWs virtue-signaled on Facebook about it. This is what happens.

A resident at the Four Points by Sheraton — the West 40th Street homeless shelter where Elliot was staying during the alleged attack — said he knew the brute well after spending time with him at another shelter.

“He told me he was [a] diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic,” the man, who declined to give his name, told The Post. “He’s quiet. He doesn’t talk much. He is really paranoid. He has mental issues.”

He'll go to a mental health hospital for a few years then be released. That's how they do it in NY.

Exclusive: New Data Shows Midtown Has Most 'Homeless Hotels' in City

NY1 has exclusively obtained a breakdown of where those hotels are by community district, showing Midtown has received far more of these so-called “COVID Hotels” than any other area of the city.

There are seven hotels-turned-shelters in community district 4 in Manhattan, which covers the Garment District and Hell’s Kitchen. That is where Sterling is staying.

Across Eighth Avenue in community district 5, which covers most of Midtown, there are now 12 hotels housing the homeless — more than any other area in the city.

For weeks, residents on the Upper West Side have complained of hotels in their neighborhood housing the homeless. That area now has four hotels — far less than Midtown.

Long Island City in Queens has also seen an influx of this type of temporary shelter as well. Community district 1 in Queens now has seven.

But the concentration of these facilities in Manhattan, especially in Midtown and Hell’s Kitchen, is starting to draw attention and concern.

He should really be locked up for life. He’s proven that “lifetime parole” isn’t going to cut it. He’s “criminally insane”, as we used to call it.

R192

She probably said the N word as he came towards her so he was justified (I kid but that will be the defense in court).

So the tenants say the video was shortened but the whole attack was shown. They did not help her at all.

I would love to hear the 911 call.

Hey, it's hard hard to find new doormen!

Parole is problematic.

R72, that link is hilarious. I thought it wasn’t real.

Wrong link.

Well in defense of the doorman it did look cold outside

Let me guess, the perpetrator of the crime at R204 is...

It’s more about the Asian attacks than the dumb title. It’s not bad.

Of course the building’s tenants would applaud the cowardly doormen for closing the door and not calling 911. They obviously stood there watching not calling for help and closed the doors on her. The tenants want this type of action because it closes off the building to trouble outside. It doesn’t matter if an innocent person gets beaten to death outside the building, as long as the doormen don’t invite slightest chance of scuffle outside to the building, that’s what they care about.

I think I would close the doors, too. What if the guy had come in on them? They're not responsible for street crimes- that's the police's job.

R211 if that’s how you really would feel and act then you’re in need of relearning your humanity, if you’d ever possessed it in the first place. You’d have to be pretty fucked up to shut the doors on someone who is injured and needed immediate help. Not even ask or check on the person but shut the door? Fuck this world and fuck New Yorkers who have become so hardened to decency.

It’s not like those two security guards couldn’t handle that one kook. He wasn’t carrying an AR-15, he was just using his hands and feet. They easily could have carried the woman inside to safety.

The doormen I know in Manhattan all would have at least done that. Yes, really.

[quote] Fuck this world and fuck New Yorkers who have become so hardened to decency.

It is NYC's constant proclamation of moral supremacy, which is clearly a thin veneer over the soulessness and basic barbarity of the city and its residents that gives NYC its unique charm.

BLM.

Republican congresswomen revoke endorsements of Texas GOP candidate after 'hurtful and untrue' comments about Chinese immigrants

[quote] "As the first Korean American Republican women to serve in Congress, we want to empower and lift up fellow members of the (Asian American and Pacific Islander) community who want to serve their communities," California Reps. Young Kim and Michelle Steel said in a statement. "We talked with Sery Kim yesterday about her hurtful and untrue comments about Chinese immigrants, and made clear that her comments were unacceptable."

[quote] During a candidate forum on Wednesday hosted by two Republican groups in Texas' 6th Congressional District, Kim responded to a question about the US' immigration crisis by saying "I don't want them here at all," referring to potential Chinese immigrants.

[quote] "They steal our intellectual property, they give us coronavirus, they don't hold themselves accountable," she continued, adding that, "I can say that because I'm Korean."

[quote] The congresswomen said in their statement Friday that they "urged her to apologize and clarify her remarks, especially as hate against the AAPI community is on the rise."

[quote] "However, she has not publicly shown remorse, and her words were contrary to what we stand for," they added. "We cannot in good conscience continue to support her candidacy. We will continue to speak out in support of our AAPI community."

Update. Doormen fired.

Another piece in the Times today. They're saying the attackers are typically homeless and mentally ill. Sure.

R218- The NYT article should have said that the attackers are usually ANTI-ASIAN.

R219, or that they're usually, overwhelmingly, people certain backgrounds and not others. But god forbid anyone do that.

People blame Trump for a lot of the anti Asian hate, so why then are most of the attackers black? Are there that many African American Trumpees??

R221, it's the dirty secret of the whole thing. The media don't want to highlight that fact because it conflicts with the "certain people are innocent victims of state violence and institutional racism and never do anything wrong" theme.

[quote]R14 The way the security guard just calmly closes the door. THAT IS COLD!!!

No one is required to come to your defense in NYC.

Is he supposed to put his own life at risk?

[quote]R28 The NY Times left out that info - about people helping. Intentionally.

They also left out that Kitty Genovese was a lesbian living with her partner, Mary Ann Zielonko.

R223, the psycho had already left the scene. He wouldn't have been coming to her defense: she'd already been attacked.

A tiny 65-year-old woman stomped and kicked repeatedly by a huge man, and it's ok not to help her AFTER the attack? At least bring her inside or give her water or something as the ambulance comes?

Sociopathy isn't a protected class. It's fine to fire them. The union seems not to have objected.

R224, the Times left out a lot of shit from the Kitty Genovese story. They made up the whole "no one bothered to help as she screamed" thing.

Wrong, R222. If anything you're victim mentality is a much more prevalent media narrative than what you are claiming.

(Reference five years of NYTimes interviews with the "forgotten red state diner patron" for specific examples)

[quote] People blame Trump for a lot of the anti Asian hate, so why then are most of the attackers black? Are there that many African American Trumpees??

1) There are some Black Trumpees but not nearly as many as they tell you there are. And one of the reasons why they (and other minorities) are drawn to him is the same answer to your other question...

2) Angry people punch down. After generations of being asked to play nice and work at getting along, someone has come along and given permission to hate THOSE people. Most violence of every type occurs because of proximity. Therefore the bodega owner, the food place, the nail salon, etc. are going to be the targets when finally an authority figure allows it to happen.

In this case, a homeless man with severe mental illness had internalized the permission to hurt a type of people who he knew attend a church on that block and he is lacking the wherewithal to realize how wrong it is.

^^^your

[quote] [R224], the Times left out a lot of shit from the Kitty Genovese story. They made up the whole "no one bothered to help as she screamed" thing.

Are you sure? I remember Hannah and her friends went to see this play on Girls and they went room to room and interacted with all the witnesses who didn’t do anything.

What a wonderful human responsible for this crime. God loves everybody, please remember this.

^^ remember that there are psychos out there?

Got it.

(Are you from Mayberry?)

Remember when Good Samaritan laws were all the rage. What happened to them?

Dudes were fired.

R232, one of the geniuses running for office has proposed that as part of the “Defund the Police” masterpiece, regular citizens should receive “bystander training” so they can step in during situations like this. HAHAHHA.

People don’t intervene because they’re afraid of getting maimed or killed, NOT because they’re afraid of getting shied.

Shied?

R217 Good!

^^^ eta: The delivery guy should be fired by his company. How about the woman who leaves the building and doesn't stop to render aid to the injured woman? And the cowardly young Asian guy who runs into the building and goes to the elevator? Cowards. They are all cowards.

I want to see what happens to the perpetrator. I'm thinking 2 years max in a mental hospital, with release upon his promising to take his meds, Canada-style.