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Lil Nas X goes to hell and fucks Satan in his new video

Too far?

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by Anonymousreply 513Last Sunday at 6:46 PM

Well, he’s not downplaying the homosex.

by Anonymousreply 103/26/2021

I love archetypal imagery, so this video was a real treat. But it also ensured his career is over in middle America.

by Anonymousreply 203/26/2021

R2 Agreed. I hope he saved some of his "Old Country Time Lemonade" (or whatever it was called) money because he just shortened and narrowed his career.

Protip: Pose is over this season, and just because you are gay doesn't mean you have to fly into Lady Gaga/drag mode.

by Anonymousreply 303/26/2021

I like him a lot, I just wish his music was better.

by Anonymousreply 403/26/2021

He does not "fuck the Devil " OP. He gives the Devil a lap dance , kills him, steals his "afro horn braids" and then become the Devil himself.

by Anonymousreply 503/26/2021

I like the devil imagery. But it's just not a good song. Lil Town Road (was that it?) was super catchy.

by Anonymousreply 603/26/2021

Interesting.

by Anonymousreply 703/26/2021

He’s taking his Miley Cyrus moment.

by Anonymousreply 803/26/2021

I fucked Satan 50 years ago!

by Anonymousreply 903/26/2021

Slides down the pole into hell lol.

by Anonymousreply 1003/26/2021

One hit wonder.

by Anonymousreply 1103/26/2021

Though he does double his voice, I can't detect a single instant of vocorder- is that possible?

by Anonymousreply 1203/26/2021

Good Lord in Heaven!

by Anonymousreply 1303/26/2021

Yes a one hit wonder

by Anonymousreply 1403/26/2021

Sexy video 💪🏼

by Anonymousreply 1503/26/2021

Gross.

by Anonymousreply 1603/26/2021

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by Anonymousreply 1703/26/2021

Where are the naked photos!?!?!!?

by Anonymousreply 1803/26/2021

That was a really fun video. Probably the best I've seen in ages.

by Anonymousreply 1903/26/2021

I bet you Missy Elliot had something to do with that fabulous video ! But I agree,he just killed his middle america career deader than a shit house rat . Unmemorable song,but the video is mind blowing.

by Anonymousreply 2003/26/2021

[quote]Pose is over this season, and just because you are gay doesn't mean you have to fly into Lady Gaga/drag mode.

There are all kinds of gay men. Some are into the "Lady Gaga/drag mode." Some are not. That's okay. We should all learn to accept each other.

[quote]But I agree,he just killed his middle america career deader than a shit house rat

He's a rapper. He was never going to retain that audience.

Nothing he does is my style but I'm appreciative of a young, unapologetic, out gay man with a successful music career not shying away from who he is.

by Anonymousreply 2103/26/2021

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by Anonymousreply 2203/26/2021

Interesting vid. I heard auto tune all over it though, r12. But I'm a sound editor so I can hear it easily.

by Anonymousreply 2303/26/2021

I never really cared for the Old Town Road hype but I really like this. Between the video lap dance scene and lyrics like "shoot a child in your mouth while I'm riding," I've never seen a mainstream gay male artist actually be that bold and explicit before.

by Anonymousreply 2403/26/2021

[quote] Too far?

Yes.

by Anonymousreply 2503/26/2021

Wow, you guys really think the young generation of "Middle America" gives a shit about religion.

Elderbrain dementia.

by Anonymousreply 2603/26/2021

"I love archetypal imagery, so this video was a real treat. But it also ensured his career is over in middle America. "

True. But, I kind of think he was getting out ahead of it. He had a pop hit and then came very publicly out. He could have sanded off the edges and maybe had another mainstream pop hit. But, if he wanted to "live his truth", he probably saw that the writing was on the wall. So, he seems to accept that he's going to be more niche and his audience narrower with this.

by Anonymousreply 2703/26/2021

Another bottom. Why can’t we ever get any famous tops to come out of the closet?

by Anonymousreply 2803/26/2021

His career is not over. This middle America that you’re talking about canceling him doesn’t even know who he is.

He’ll be fine.

by Anonymousreply 2903/26/2021

Almost everyone knows who he is. His sing was the biggest hit in years.

by Anonymousreply 3003/26/2021

He may get fucked by the devil when he dies if he goes to hell when he dies. Not funny.

by Anonymousreply 3103/26/2021

I agree he's autotuned every single note he "sings" in this.

by Anonymousreply 3203/26/2021

[quote] He may get fucked by the devil when he dies if he goes to hell when he dies. Not funny.

Thanks for alerting us to your fears, Miss Chastity Pariah.

by Anonymousreply 3303/26/2021

The autotune is stylistically intentional - for the sound editor that hasn’t listened to new music in the last 15yrs

by Anonymousreply 3403/26/2021

It sounds awful, r34.

by Anonymousreply 3503/26/2021

[quote] He may get fucked by the devil when he dies if he goes to hell when he dies. Not funny.

Don't worry. He was already going to hell for performing the devil's music.

by Anonymousreply 3603/26/2021

R35 subjective and not so relevant - my point was that it’s clearly autotuned so those pointing it out as if they had a trained ear or had picked up on something the musician had missed is embarrassing.

by Anonymousreply 3703/26/2021

Has Tipper Gore issued a statement or is she still overcome - “shooketh“ as the kids say - by “Wet Ass Pussy”?

by Anonymousreply 3803/26/2021

Yikes.

by Anonymousreply 3903/26/2021

Of course it's autotuned. Let's skip that shit. I love the song, the video is gorgeous and sexy and that hot lil bitch can get it anytime he wants it. I love a man unafraid. I've watched it ten times and you can bet Adele and Ariana and Miley have too. This isn't marketing. It's brave sexy cool. Never mind middle America. Half the fags on this thread are clutching their rusty rosaries.

not all us been sleeping on Lil Nas XXX.

by Anonymousreply 4003/26/2021

OK, I tried a few of his moves on the sign pole outside and fell - because it’s a square pole and I need thigh-highs for height and balance.

I’m OK!

by Anonymousreply 4103/26/2021

He's cute

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by Anonymousreply 4303/26/2021

I’m gonna fuck that kid.

by Anonymousreply 4403/27/2021

If this is what passes as "hot"---I pass. He looks like he smells. And this new "drag" direction is not going to win him any fans. He looks like a male stripper who wants to be a woman---and I'm betting that's where this is headed. Wait and See...

by Anonymousreply 4503/27/2021

I think the funniest thing about Lil Nas X is that his father is a gospel singer in a church choir.

Someone get his dad "the vapors" and a fainting couch!

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by Anonymousreply 4603/27/2021

His dad seems sweet and supportive

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by Anonymousreply 4703/27/2021

I’m surprised his record company let this happen. It ruins his ability to have widespread, mainstream appeal. He’s already being viewed as producing demonic and Satanic material

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by Anonymousreply 4903/27/2021

He looks a bit like Gene Anthony Ray when he was the same age. I wish the actor playing the devil in the video were more attractive though, so the lap-dance scene were hotter.

It's pretty much a stupid video, though it does make a bold statement. And it's not a good song at all.

by Anonymousreply 5003/27/2021

[quote] Has Tipper Gore issued a statement or is she still overcome - “shooketh“ as the kids say - by “Wet Ass Pussy”?

You need to update your references. Tipper Gore has laid low about music for more than three decades, and she's not even a Senate wife anymore.

by Anonymousreply 5103/27/2021

No thanx

by Anonymousreply 5203/27/2021

He's cute but are there any young gay men who are content to just be MEN? It's the make-up, wigs, sequins and high-heel stripper boots that lessen his sex appeal.

by Anonymousreply 5303/27/2021

Here here R53

by Anonymousreply 5403/27/2021

Why, he's sexy on and off the pole though R53. He's creative and plays with images, archetypes and new masculinity. He's GAY. Definitely GAY. We should celebrate him for that proclamation alone!! You're showing your age and your obsession with being a lifetime bottom R53, R54. I would guess that is about 75 years?

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by Anonymousreply 5503/27/2021

I think it’s nice that he’s getting a lot of support from big deal rappers. Big Sean wrote a really sweet comment under his Instagram post congratulating him on the song

by Anonymousreply 5603/27/2021

R55 I WISH I had bottomed more, but due to having to deal with whatever the fuck 'new masculinity' is --which I assume is the bottoming/femme obsession you are projecting on me --I have been a top by a huge percentage.

by Anonymousreply 5703/27/2021

Big Sean is pretty cute, R56.

I wonder if "Big Sean" wants to be in "Lil Nas" quite deeply?

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by Anonymousreply 5803/27/2021

This is my favorite song & music video from him thus far. The people in this thread attacking him (and on a so-called “gay forum”) are fucking idiots.

by Anonymousreply 5903/27/2021

R57 drinks bud lite and declares himself ‘a real man’.

by Anonymousreply 6003/27/2021

Lil Nas needs to do a video with Big Sean next.

Same theme.

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by Anonymousreply 6103/27/2021

Cool 6 threads on exact topic

by Anonymousreply 6203/27/2021

[quote] I wish the actor playing the devil in the video were more attractive though, so the lap-dance scene were hotter.

We couldn't really see who was under the costume, though.

You know what would have been REALLY cool? If it was a well known rapper under there.

He could have been grinding all over some hot guy on the dl, and nobody would have known it!

by Anonymousreply 6303/27/2021

R48

You couldn’t be more wrong. It’s genius. This is the most buzz he has gotten since Old Town Road. And good, he deserves it.

by Anonymousreply 6403/27/2021

R56 Big Sean is in a relationship with Jhene Aiko, they are a really beautiful couple

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by Anonymousreply 6503/27/2021

. I really don't care if he's feminine or not, I just don't rock with satanic themes in music. A huge percentage of people feel the same.

by Anonymousreply 6603/27/2021

He looks exactly like someone Faye Dunaway would refer to as "little homosexual boy".

by Anonymousreply 6703/27/2021

R66

Those type of people have been complaining about pop, rap, and rock music especially being Satanic for ages. It hasn’t affected the success of such music.

by Anonymousreply 6803/27/2021

I don’t care if he uses satanic themes in music, I just can’t stand a man who can rock stiletto-heeled thigh-highs. A percentage of people really feel it when our saggy old asses scrape against the pleather.

by Anonymousreply 6903/27/2021

What about big Nas. Is he a fan?

by Anonymousreply 7003/27/2021

Sharp-ass little punk! (Dunno how he'll ever out-do this one.... Unless it's a saga-storyline.) PROPS!

by Anonymousreply 7103/27/2021

I like the video, it's fun. But the song on its own without the video isn't notable to me.

by Anonymousreply 7203/27/2021

His bio states he once played trumpet, so I’m pulling a big-band swing resurgence prediction out of my ass. With enough sampling, he could have tons of covid-weight teens bouncing about via the tik-toks, R71.

The footwear would be awesome and a change from the foam sneaker bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 7303/27/2021

Total garbage in that he is ripping off another brilliant queer filmmaker Andrew Thomas Huang

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by Anonymousreply 7403/27/2021

He really said "If I'm going to hell for being what I am, then I'm going to rule it."

by Anonymousreply 7503/27/2021

Does he present hole or does Satan present hole?

by Anonymousreply 7603/27/2021

hah!

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by Anonymousreply 7703/27/2021

Truth, power. Light.

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by Anonymousreply 7803/27/2021

He’s cute

by Anonymousreply 7903/27/2021

Lil Nas X will be fine. For one, Black Millennials and Zoomers are far less homophobic than Gen X and older. Plus LNX will attract the same white hipster/skate crowd as Tyler the Creator, Daniel Caesar, Brockhampton and Frank Ocean have. Odd Future which Tyler and Frank were members had Satanic imagery too.

by Anonymousreply 8003/27/2021

The FKA Twigs plagiarism is going to bite him in his adorable little ass.

by Anonymousreply 8103/27/2021

Lizzo and Cardi got in hot water for plagiarism too. But Beyoncé and Madonna are still the most prolific in taking credit where it's undue.

by Anonymousreply 8203/27/2021

[quote] Here here [R53]

Where? Where?

by Anonymousreply 8303/27/2021

[quote] Too far?

Hell no. Not far enough.

by Anonymousreply 8403/27/2021

As an old gay white dude I rather enjoy the gender-bending. A little butch, a little fem, a whole lotta bright colors.

by Anonymousreply 8503/27/2021

muah

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by Anonymousreply 8603/27/2021

I would have liked it better if Satan was some handsome trade instead of that hideous CGI face

by Anonymousreply 8703/27/2021

[quote]I would have liked it better if Satan was some handsome trade instead of that hideous CGI face

One rarely gets to grind with the Satan one prefers.

by Anonymousreply 8803/27/2021

Yes, the original Nas and Lil Nas do know each other and actually have a song together, which they performed at the Grammys last year.

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by Anonymousreply 8903/27/2021

Black people bitching he went too far. Yet they were all falling over themselves to praise WAP when it was released.

Homophobic cunts.

by Anonymousreply 9003/27/2021

Except that you're lying R90.

by Anonymousreply 9103/27/2021

Its a great song. I kind of wish the longer version in the video is what’s on streaming though. Also it’s been fun watching straight men react to the video on YouTube. Most don’t know what to do with themselves lmao

by Anonymousreply 9203/27/2021

Black people certainly aren’t the audience of anyone producing context featuring Satan and hell

by Anonymousreply 9303/27/2021

I'm not even a straight man and still found it kind of uncomfortable to watch. He's clearly tried a bit too hard with this one, and the shitty CGI makes it all look so cheap and tacky

by Anonymousreply 9403/27/2021

Context=content

by Anonymousreply 9503/27/2021

Well...he "had" an opportunity to be a role model for other black gay kids and men. Instead he decided to fag it up, rip off content, and force "edgy" which isn't really all that edgy.

by Anonymousreply 9603/27/2021

You're too white, 75 years too old, too racist and WAY too drunk to make those statements R96. Clutch your rosary...no, not the anal beads gramps. There's no more embarrassing fool than some ancient white F@G afraid of satan.

by Anonymousreply 9703/27/2021

He “decided to fag it up” ... Bitch he fagged it down on Satan’s dick

by Anonymousreply 9803/27/2021

R97 sees burning crosses where there are none.

Could care less about the imagery, Missy.

by Anonymousreply 9903/27/2021

Yes he did R98. And then he steals satan's crown! Sexy as fuck and not to hard to decipher. It's a raw honest gay song down a stripper pole. Longing yearning fucking stunts. "I want to fuck the ones I envy."

Oh, oh, oh, why me?

A sign of the times every time that I speak

A dime and a nine, it was mine every week

What a time, an incline, God was shinin' on me

Now I can't leave

And now I'm actin' hella elite

Never want the niggas that's in my league

I wanna fuck the ones I envy, I envy

by Anonymousreply 10003/27/2021

ooooOOOWWWEEEE! I don't think the devil is done....

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by Anonymousreply 10103/27/2021

What gay man doesn't know this night? Or life. More the same in black life maybe. Lil Nax X is one fucking brave dude. 21 years old and LIVING. Sexy. Satan is both his metaphor and someone to fuck with.

Cocaine and drinkin' with your friends

You live in the dark, boy, I cannot pretend

I'm not fazed, only here to sin

If Eve ain't in your garden, you know that you can...

Call me when you want, call me when you need

Call me in the morning, I'll be on the way

Call me when you want, call me when you need

Call me out by your name, I'll be on the way like

Oh, call me by your name (Mmm, mmm, mmm)

Tell me you love me in private

Call me by your name (Mmm, mmm, mmm)

I do not care if you lyin'

by Anonymousreply 10203/27/2021

People saying this can’t be “mainstream” because of Satanism are dumb. Apparently they missed Lady Gaga, The Weeknd, and many others.

by Anonymousreply 10303/27/2021

I LOVED the video! You guys are so annoying and easily triggered you deserve boring and sexless people like Troye Sivan (who is afraid of even admitting he is a bottom 😂)

by Anonymousreply 10403/28/2021

Critics are mopping him up.....Lil Nas is going to be TRANS next.....Wait and See.....He is not sexy in any way...He really needs to eat a burger.

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by Anonymousreply 10503/28/2021

r105 no doubt. some 31 flavors of gender than proper trans. so, glaad will declare him the second coming of hotep jesus. he's hustling hard for relevancy. sure, it's entertaining watching lsa flip a lid. but another year or two and he'll be joining milo with saying he's not gay but his husband is.

the vid looks cheesy and dated. like a bad parody of french music videos from the late 90s.

by Anonymousreply 10603/28/2021

The discussion-reaction of black gay men who felt torn grown up in churches is illuminating — dazzling. Naz wrote a description in Variety, which includes the explanation for the text on the tree.

“The story opens in a lush Garden of Eden where Nas first introduces the theme of duality, which is displayed throughout the video,”. “He plays the role of Adam as well as the snake that tempts him into giving in to the carnal desires he was forbidden to explore, and we see the two merge and become one. Following a nod to Plato’s Symposium displayed on the tree of life, a shackled up Nas finds himself at his execution day in the Colosseum, where he is surrounded by and receiving judgment from various versions of himself. Once he has been executed, he ascends to heaven only to be pulled down to hell where he harnesses his sexuality to seduce the devil and strip him of his power as an evil force — and dismantling the throne of judgment and punishment that has kept many of us from embracing our true selves out of fear.”

by Anonymousreply 10703/28/2021

What was originally posted at R101?

The Tweet was deleted.

by Anonymousreply 10803/28/2021

Satanic Drag Video....By the way, this queen wrote a Childrens Book. You can bet no publisher will pay him a dime to ever write a followup after making a video where he bottoms for Mephisto.....He is also only worth 4 million....That's nothing by Hollywood standards...

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by Anonymousreply 10903/28/2021

What is with these homophobes in this thread? Fuck y’all.

by Anonymousreply 11003/28/2021

[quote] Could care less about the imagery, Missy.

If you could, you should.

by Anonymousreply 11103/28/2021

He needs sound, intelligent career advice. He seems to be sabotaging his own success and longevity with radical, outrageous antics that alienate him from the type of widespread, broad success he started with.

by Anonymousreply 11203/28/2021

[quote] with radical, outrageous antics that alienate him from the type of widespread, broad success he started with.

People really shouldn’t do that.

by Anonymousreply 11303/28/2021

DICKING with the DEVIL.?......Gee---I cannot imagine how many times the GOP will be playing THIS video to show the "evils" of homosexuality. Some gays disgrace our community. Now we will be labeled as Satanists...

by Anonymousreply 11403/28/2021

He’s a young artist. He’s not responsible for the entirety of his identity labels - there are plenty of wholesome role models. He gets to be what he wants to be and he’s going to do just that, as he clearly shows. He’s run into the fire (and brimstone) as loudly as he could. Good for him. Fuck the fear most of us grew up with. That’s role modeling too.

by Anonymousreply 11503/28/2021

I loved someone's observation: A person is told he's going to hell by people who get upset when he does.

by Anonymousreply 11603/28/2021

Well, I guess we will have to wait for the first openly bi or gay male in hip hop with success and acceptance in that genre and community

by Anonymousreply 11703/28/2021

Frank Ocean is widely accepted and successful, but is he hip hop?

by Anonymousreply 11803/28/2021

This story is the very same as Wizard of Oz. Right down to Nas killing the "wicked" witch... And instead of ruby slippers, Nas is selling red nikes. This is a big-time opportunity "Lil" Nas. I hope Nas can work the stripper pole for the entire live performance.

by Anonymousreply 11903/28/2021

R112

Lol you don’t know shit.

by Anonymousreply 12003/28/2021

r119 they're not official nikes but modified... LSA is holding prayer circles that he goes bankrupt

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by Anonymousreply 12103/28/2021

He was sick of being an act for country kiddies. I'm sure he wants to get away from that

by Anonymousreply 12203/28/2021

Thank GOD I'm on mushrooms!

by Anonymousreply 12303/28/2021

I like it.

by Anonymousreply 12403/28/2021

#1 song on iTunes #1 trending on YouTube

Most talked about video of the year.

The haters are seething.

by Anonymousreply 12503/28/2021

I'm sorry -- I've not been paying attention. Any nudes? Verificatia as you call it. Coin slot or rosebud? Nice body, hideous tattoos.

by Anonymousreply 12603/28/2021

R109, Madonna wrote a children's book FFS. He'll be fine.

by Anonymousreply 12703/28/2021

[quote] Now we will be labeled as Satanists...

Meh. I’ve been called worse.

And do you really think the conservative right doesn’t think we’re satanists already, merely for who we are? I’m not going to lose any sleep over it.

by Anonymousreply 12803/28/2021

I like the song and video - the song incorporates a lot of current music trends and uses the gay indie film title. He certainly is a wide-ranging talent, this song doesn't sound anything like what I've heard from him. I still like The Weeknd's songs better tho.

by Anonymousreply 12903/28/2021

R110, unfortunately this site is infested with racist old self loathing gay incels.

So to see a successful young proud black man being flamboyantly sexual is a huge trigger for them.

by Anonymousreply 13003/28/2021

He’s ruined his future!

Now those millions of Middle America Trump Supporters that love outspoken liberal gay black rappers will no longer buy his albums! This is too far!!!

by Anonymousreply 13103/28/2021

Big Gay Al Reynolds feels this is a bad branding move!

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by Anonymousreply 13203/28/2021

I'm 63 and white and I absolutely love the song and the declicious video. Gen Z and younger don't care about your outdated, lingering, outrage over gender-bending or the in-your-face manner in which they embrace shifting, gender fluid identities. This ridiculous clinging to binary ideas of gender identity is stodgy and incredibly dull. Younger generations defiantly exhibit a subversive "devil-may-care" attitude and I applaud them for it. They're unabashedly, creatively agressive. If you're offended or put off by it, turn your appalled eyes to something more milquetoast. Something a little safer for your delicate sensibilities. Better yet, get off the fucking stage already and make room for future generations. This goes for any stage, political, creative, or social.

by Anonymousreply 13303/28/2021

r133 I dont think most people are offended by his message and a lot of people love him. I mean its 2021 and artists are already out here rapping about wet pussies. Some black ladies in their 60s told me they loved OTR but they couldn't remember his name lol. Its the branding issue...people look for consistency and this is not very consistent with what he's been doing for the last couple of years.

Artists are very sensitive and always feel like they aren't totally accepted because of social norms, when sometimes its not that deep. When you are selling a product people do have some expectations of what they are going to get. When you give them something else, even if its the same thing someone else is giving, it can go left. But he appears to be winning in this so good for him.

by Anonymousreply 13403/28/2021

A brand based on a country rap that appealed to elementary school kids is way more limiting.

by Anonymousreply 13503/28/2021

r135 true but there are levels in between country rap for kids and twerking your ass on the devil in a lacefront wig and thigh-high boots. Some people would have really enjoyed those steps in between I'm sure and lot of money could've been made.

by Anonymousreply 13603/28/2021

That's it, R130. You got it!

by Anonymousreply 13703/28/2021

Omg

by Anonymousreply 13803/28/2021

The video is fun. The song is OK my biggest critique is I don't like the reference to cocaine.

I LOVE that dumbass christians are mad haha. They have this obnoxious arrogance that they control everything culturally. Those days are over. Us millennials and gen zers are far less religious than the boomers and gen xers which is a good thing.

The song is currently #1 on itunes and I hope it stays there so radio will be forced to play this song.

If the wokesters on social media can get rid of the influence of religion in society that will be amazing. This is the first of many steps.

Lil Nas X is a brave young man. I didn't realize he's only 21. Hopefully his success will launch more openly gay musical acts

by Anonymousreply 13903/28/2021

I love it! Best thing I’ve seen in a while! Finally a gay man owning his sexuality in the mainstream instead of butching it up or being asexual

by Anonymousreply 14003/28/2021

Dear lord in heaven!!

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by Anonymousreply 14103/28/2021

Naz actually denounces cocaine in the song.... Pretty sure that goes for the "Lookin' at the table, all I see is weed and white / Baby, you livin' the life, but nigga, you ain't livin' right" reference, too... While, he may be going to hell for sex, me thinks Naz is promoting sobriety — especially in the African-American community.

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by Anonymousreply 14203/28/2021

r128 conservatives aren't much of an issue as other leftwing voting blocs. lgbt are a small percentage in comparison to other minorities. expect democrats to throw it under the bus if enough of the bloc complains. bringing up homophobia among poc never ends well. watch a rise in attacks against black gay men.

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by Anonymousreply 14303/28/2021

[quote]Well...he "had" an opportunity to be a role model for other black gay kids and men.

Admit it, you've never been the same since "The Cosby Show" was cancelled.

by Anonymousreply 14403/28/2021

Yet the music sounds like your basic blaring from of a douchebro’s boom car.

by Anonymousreply 14503/28/2021

R145, why do you have such a problem with bros?

by Anonymousreply 14603/28/2021

A lot of cheap and easy responses here.

I suspect most DL-ers aren't too taken aback by the imagery. More eye-rolling than pearl-clutching.

The knee-jerk race allegations are weak, and frankly risible. It is the last refuge of not having a good argument--and it really borne out of the femme/masculine/generational debate which is more legitimate. But, the racist thing is thrown in as a kind of emotional chum to up the feeding frenzy.

Now excuse me as I superciliously sweep my scarf over my shoulder and stride away....

by Anonymousreply 14703/28/2021

Middle America LOVED Marilyn Manson so the argument that Lil Nas X , a black artist, would lose that demographic but Marilyn Manson, a white artist, thrived is inherently racist.

by Anonymousreply 14803/28/2021

[Quote] I don't like the reference to cocaine.

Da fuck!?

by Anonymousreply 14903/28/2021

Middle American teens were also the ones buying hip-hop albums and allowed the genre which was originally underground and limited to the Black community to become the highest selling musical genre in the 2000s.

by Anonymousreply 15003/28/2021

This is the HAXAN of 2021.

by Anonymousreply 15103/28/2021

Honestly I love him 😂

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by Anonymousreply 15203/28/2021

Has Gaga commented? The video definitely has Bad Romance/Gaga vibes all over it.

by Anonymousreply 15303/28/2021

Oh it’s a bad romance alright.

by Anonymousreply 15403/28/2021

I'd LOVE a Gaga Lil Nas X collab

by Anonymousreply 15503/28/2021

R155

Yep, I’m sure most of their fans (gay especially) would agree.

by Anonymousreply 15603/28/2021

Fucking with Satan is too much, some of you are way too blase about Satanic invocation. I hope Sloan Bella does a video on him.

by Anonymousreply 15703/28/2021

R157, please at least read that bible you thump. Weaponized faith reaps what it has sown every time.

by Anonymousreply 15803/28/2021

Imagine believing Satan is real.

by Anonymousreply 15903/28/2021

He is! And don’t you DARE try to tell me he’s not. He comes every Christmas night and leaves presents for me and my cats.

Oh, you said satan. Sorry bout that.

Never mind.

by Anonymousreply 16003/28/2021

Didn't South Park do that in 1997?

by Anonymousreply 16103/28/2021

r153 jonny good, credited as gaga's bassist wagged a finger over nas' lgbt agenda.

haven't seen a reported comment from Rob Halford or Mia Sara yet.

nor mc solaar

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Holy shit R162.

I just looked that up RE Gaga's bassist!

Why the hell would Lady freaking' Gaga's bass player take that stance? Does he not know where his damn bread is buttered?

That guy is sooo fired.

by Anonymousreply 16303/28/2021

[quote]Didn't South Park do that in 1997?

Satan bottomed for Saddam Hussein in 1997. Now he's topping Lil Naz in 2021.

#versatilerelationshipgoals

by Anonymousreply 16403/28/2021

I don’t like his music but that video is a lot of fun. Good for him I like seeing a flamboyantly gay rapper.

by Anonymousreply 16503/28/2021

He’s cute as hell

by Anonymousreply 16603/28/2021

This "music" of his is really, really bad. Music video was faggoty nonsense

by Anonymousreply 16703/28/2021

R153, only Bad Romance actually has a plot that makes sense - it is like high art compared to this video.

by Anonymousreply 16803/28/2021

Even if his song sucks. Lil Nas X still deserves props for being openly gay, having a flaming aesthetic and plus he's hot. I love how he pisses off racist conservative country fans and now homophobic Christians.

Why does DL have millions of threads on boring ass Shawn Mendes and Justin Bieber who are "straight" and also have shitty music? At least talk about hot gay guys with bad music too. Steve Grand is the only one with a ton of threads and it's because he's a social media slut.

by Anonymousreply 16903/28/2021

R157, the moral compass has spoken. Redemption is at hand!

by Anonymousreply 17003/28/2021

There are plenty of gay celebrities with a “flaming aesthetic.” Masculine mainstream gay and bi male celebrities like Frank Ocean, Steve Lacy, and Taylor Bennett are much more revolutionary and transformative

by Anonymousreply 17103/28/2021

r171 I bet Lil Nas is the only one who dates other black men!

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Lil Nas X is not flaming anyway. What ridiculous talk. He's a sexy man. Young and daring. Anything he wants to be. That's the point. SEXY.

by Anonymousreply 17303/28/2021

I don’t if you call him flaming, but he definitely is very fluid in gender presentation. He’s not conventional in his gender presentation

by Anonymousreply 17403/28/2021

his voice isn't flaming

by Anonymousreply 17503/28/2021

Yeah, R175, he has a very nice, deep voice, I've noticed

by Anonymousreply 17603/28/2021

Cheeky boy. I can tell most y'all only heard of him yesterday. Some old gay man bitching about his tattoos? That's paint for the video gramps!!! Besides, he's fine when he's a flame and fine with his shirt off too. Come twerk on my dick bad boy. And keep clapping back at the hypocrites and lip smackers. He's got a shoe for you too.

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he ain't done...

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by Anonymousreply 17803/28/2021

haha these homophobes and religious freaks can't out-troll him. He's very skilled at it and I love it

by Anonymousreply 17903/28/2021

uh oh....Conservative Groups are now calling for Nike and other Lil Nas Sponsors to face the music......FUN QUOTE ---"Lil Nas X has the Church of Satan’s stamp of approval. As one Lil Nas X fan summed up on Twitter, in response to tongue-clucking over the androgyny and lurid sexuality of the video: “Either you getting piped by satan himself or u ain’t livin right.”......This is career ending stuff....

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by Anonymousreply 18003/28/2021

haha right wingers trying to cancel Lil Nas X

not gonna happen

by Anonymousreply 18103/28/2021

R180, your linked source is The American Conservative. It was founded by Pat Buchanan. How stealth.

Troll.

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R174 say ‘gender presentation’ again

by Anonymousreply 18303/28/2021

The fundies promoting his sneakers with all the pearl's clutching it's hilarious

by Anonymousreply 18403/28/2021

R182 = Hi there!!! (R180) here...I SAID the CONSERVATIVES....I QUOTED the CONSERVATIVES...And I posted a LINK showing which CONSERVATIVES.....What part confused you?....LoL

by Anonymousreply 18503/28/2021

[QUOTE] If this is what passes as "hot"---I pass. He looks like he smells

Fuck off, Welp Troll. You say everyone smells. Racist cunt.

by Anonymousreply 18603/28/2021

[quote] What part confused you?....LoL

There was no confusion. Your last sentence "This is career ending stuff" was very telling. That was your commentary, no? I might have overlooked that in your linked conservative article.

Can you please show where that sentence is in the article? Again, I might have overlooked it and clarification from you might be helpful.

Oh, and don't LoL yourself.

by Anonymousreply 18703/28/2021

It's headed for number 1 next week so hardly career ending.

by Anonymousreply 18803/28/2021

Last week Nas posted a tweet about how much he loves Harry Styles and Harry's vast fandom are now buying Nas' single as a thank you. It's been #1 on itunes since its release.

by Anonymousreply 18903/28/2021

[quote] Last week Nas posted a tweet about how much he loves Harry Styles and Harry's vast fandom are now buying Nas' single as a thank you. It's been #1 on itunes since its release.

Well played, Lil Nas X, well played.

by Anonymousreply 19003/28/2021

Nasonex will have a career, because his fan base is all under 20 years old and all they care about are the bright colors and "yas kween" energy

by Anonymousreply 19103/28/2021

Lol..I love the chick fil-a reference on the white sneakers. It's one homophobic institution that needs to be cancelled.

by Anonymousreply 19203/28/2021

r179 also has feminists after him, especially black feminists, for alleged misgynoir, fat shaming, rattling the beyhive, taking aim with the more left friendly claims of islamophobia, claiming he's a child predator and telling him to kys on twitter.

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Breaking DL NEWS ALERT!!!---------->>>LiL Nas X is being accused of COPYING someone elses work!!!......

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You're 121 posts late, Scoop.

by Anonymousreply 19603/28/2021

[quote] also has feminists after him, especially black feminists, for alleged misgynoir, fat shaming, rattling the beyhive, taking aim with the more left friendly claims of islamophobia, claiming he's a child predator and telling him to kys on twitter.

It's not "especially black feminists" from what I have seen. It's Tumblr kids coupled with non-Nicki Minaj fans who are pulling up all these old "receipts" and trying to come at him in defense of fka Twigs.

by Anonymousreply 19703/29/2021

I'm old and I love him, he's having so much fun.

by Anonymousreply 19803/29/2021

He’s nothing special as a musician, so, like Cardi B, he focuses on being controversial.

by Anonymousreply 19903/29/2021

R158, hardly a bible thumper, I'm saying for a number of reasons you don't purposefully invite Satan into your life. Satanic worship is nothing to fuck with weather you're religious or spiritual. Satanic groups can take over your life and can take over your physical body.

by Anonymousreply 20003/29/2021

I think this forum has been infiltrated. Some people in this thread are definitely not gay. Attacking Lil Nas X for giving the finger to the institution that is responsible for our adversity. Is this a joke?

by Anonymousreply 20103/29/2021

[quote] weather you're religious or spiritual.

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 20203/29/2021

[quote] I'm saying for a number of reasons you don't purposefully invite Satan into your life. Satanic worship is nothing to fuck with weather you're religious or spiritual. Satanic groups can take over your life and can take over your physical body.

Oh FFS.

by Anonymousreply 20303/29/2021

R201 you are not wrong. This entire forum has been infiltrated with right wing anti hat anti racist trolls and every thread trying to call it out has been deleted

by Anonymousreply 20403/29/2021

R201, you realize a huge percentage of gay and bi people are Christians?

by Anonymousreply 20503/29/2021

r200, there is no Satan because there is no God. 'K?

by Anonymousreply 20603/29/2021

He checked Nick Young's ole closeted ass 😂👏🏾

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Bad Romance was not nearly this bad

And I’m kind of tired of you all pretending gay men are judged equally to straight men or women in general.

A straight person doing what he did would get backlash but a gay man doing it.... I can assure you he will not have a massive hit again.

by Anonymousreply 20803/29/2021

I don’t get why you all think everyone taking issue with the video is a homophobe. No. I even see many gays taking issue with it.

It’s not the gay visuals upsetting them, it’s the satanic message and visuals.

And the video is a bad look for gays.

by Anonymousreply 20903/29/2021

R205

Those gay and bi people should realize that Satanists are not the problem. Satanism is about loving and accepting yourself, pretty much. Gay men are prominent in the Satanic Temple, the majority of which are actually LGBTQ+ people who have been outcast and taught to hate themselves for who they are by Christians. Satanists even have a history of trolling the biggest homophobes in the church. Why is that bad for gays?

by Anonymousreply 21003/29/2021

Satan is tonguing your asshole right now r209, burn baby burn!!! WHA AHAHAHAHA

"Bad look for gays." Please, motherfucker. Go twist a pastel scarf around your shoulders and sashay off, Kendall

by Anonymousreply 21103/29/2021

'I think this forum has been infiltrated. Some people in this thread are definitely not gay. Attacking Lil Nas X for giving the finger to the institution that is responsible for our adversity. Is this a joke?'

It's the Klan Granny contingent who hate all black celebrities.

by Anonymousreply 21203/29/2021

R210 that isn’t what Satanism is about. Wtf.

by Anonymousreply 21303/29/2021

'It’s not the gay visuals upsetting them, it’s the satanic message and visuals.'

He kills Satan, you dumbass. How is that promoting 'the satanic message'?

by Anonymousreply 21403/29/2021

Almost all people objecting to the video are doing so based on the satanic and demonic content, not sexuality. A lot of people like Nick Young who previously liked and supported Lil Nas X object to it on the basis it contains evil and satanic content. I’ve heard many a gay person express the same objections. It’s the demonic stuff that has upset people, and for good reason.

by Anonymousreply 21503/29/2021

R210, are you a Satanist? 😳

by Anonymousreply 21603/29/2021

[quote] I’ve heard many a gay person express the same

No, you have not.

[quote] It’s the demonic stuff that has upset people, and for good reason.

No, it isn't.

by Anonymousreply 21703/29/2021

r212 the hate is coming from all levels of melanin. r197 they proclaim themselves to be black femininsts, they got significant following and still raging throughout multiple social media platforms. but sure, sis, believe it's only the light skin posse

by Anonymousreply 21803/29/2021

Why are you focused on black women objecting? Most people vocally upset are black men

by Anonymousreply 21903/29/2021

I love how ZaddyBro is all pressed about this. LOVE IT!

by Anonymousreply 22003/29/2021

R215

“Satanic and demonic content”. Really? Are you traumatized by Halloween?

by Anonymousreply 22103/29/2021

I see a shit ton of white people going nuts over this all over the internet, but of course DL focuses on what black people have to say.

by Anonymousreply 22203/29/2021

No. He doesn’t just kill the devil.

He is a man who is possessed by a demon (who has one eye on his forehead like the Illuminati) and then is gay.

The entire video is a bad look on gays.

by Anonymousreply 22303/29/2021

R213

That is what Satanism is about - basically self-worship and loving, accepting, and being yourself without the influence of others - and this video perfectly displays that. It is meant to be empowering and most gay people do see that.

by Anonymousreply 22403/29/2021

Uh no. Gay and bisexual people don’t need the worst stigma and association of all. Satanism is considered the worst thing possible.

by Anonymousreply 22503/29/2021

Im sure there is some trolling on this thread. But as I mentioned before a lot of people's issue with the video is simply that it's such a huge departure from what he was doing before, it has nothing to do with homophobia, Satanism or anything like that. Entertainers go through this a lot, gay and straight and otherwise.

The audience generally puts people in a box. TS Madison is another black LGBT personality who had a hard time with career transition, but it was the other way around. She did black tranny porn and now has a show on WETV. It took years for people to accept her new career that didn't include porn.

by Anonymousreply 22603/29/2021

[quote]That is what Satanism is about - basically self-worship

As if putting the personification of evil at the center of your religion wasn't bad enough.

by Anonymousreply 22703/29/2021

"Satanism is considered the worst thing possible." must be an eldergay.

by Anonymousreply 22803/29/2021

It is quite an OLDHEAD way of thinking, R228, isn't it? 🤣

by Anonymousreply 22903/29/2021

This gay atheist loves it. And I'm thrilled by all the pearl clutching. Fuck off, fraus

by Anonymousreply 23003/29/2021

Bless the triggered Bible thumpers

by Anonymousreply 23103/29/2021

I love how it gets the conservatives' tits in a twist.

by Anonymousreply 23203/29/2021

R228 um most young people arent Satanists either. Lmao.

by Anonymousreply 23303/29/2021

The trolling over the Satan aspect is so dumb. The message is: "you [conservative christians, homophobes, etc] say I'm going to hell? well then watch me go to hell and more, bitch."

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R235 disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 23603/29/2021

Sneakers have sold out. Y'all haters can have several seats

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All 666 pairs? That’s not hard when you have access to millions of people

by Anonymousreply 23803/29/2021

Those sneakers were over 1000 bucks a pop - wonder how much LNX made off of them? Nike probably made 99% of the cash. They'll be worth a heap more already though I am sure

by Anonymousreply 23903/29/2021

They're boutique my dude, r238. He could have sold 10,000 pairs. But it's just a little capsule. 1,000 per pair.

As someone on Twitter said - watch out SOON for Goop to come out with sneakers containing menstrual blood. Not far fetched at all.

I'm loving me some Lil Nas X. He's lit up the conversation like no one's done since Gaga entered.

Nas is sexy and gay and unafraid and having some fine days. He cute as fuck too. And the song tells a young man's truth.

by Anonymousreply 24003/29/2021

Supposedly Nike TRULY had no part in it.

by Anonymousreply 24103/29/2021

R240 10k still isn’t impressive when you have a platform to reach the whole world.

by Anonymousreply 24203/29/2021

R226, satanism may not be an issue for you, but for most Americans, it certainly is, the ultimate no-no. Any association, real or perceived, with it will severely taint the limit the subject.

by Anonymousreply 24303/29/2021

R243 clutch your pearls tighter, Helen Lovejoy

by Anonymousreply 24403/29/2021

They’re standard Nike shoes that were customized, after the fact, by MSCHF.

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by Anonymousreply 24603/29/2021

Nike has disavowed any involvement in this, although people are still saying they will boycott the company. Lil Nas X may face a huge lawsuit from Nike for regaining their brand

by Anonymousreply 24703/29/2021

Ha. Keep Trolling Mister Fine Ass Nas X.

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❤️😝❤️.

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by Anonymousreply 24903/29/2021

I just watched it for the first time a couple of hours ago and was just thrilled it was light years from Old Town Road. This gets him a seat at the buzz table and hopefully kick-starts a long overdue reimagining of the relationship between us and religion.

My only concern is the obvious Twigs-copy. His was different - he had better hair, she had better shoes, he twerked for satan, she got to not only fuck but get repeatedly roughed up by Shia LeBouf - it's hard to pick a side.

And I'm 55 and thought this was pretty ok.

by Anonymousreply 25003/29/2021

I love all these FREE SPEECH republicans all wanted it censored. It's a parody, an art piece. News flash there is no satan. No snake in the garden of eden. It would just as ridiculous if he lap danced for dumbledore or captain kirk.

by Anonymousreply 25103/29/2021

I love him

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r247 well if that's the case then he better be calling up Mother Oprah and Phil McGraw right now cause shit may get ugly!

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'The trolling over the Satan aspect is so dumb. The message is: "you [conservative christians, homophobes, etc] say I'm going to hell? well then watch me go to hell and more, bitch."'

Thank you! So sick of the ugly New Puritanism on Datalounge. We would all have loved someone like Nas ten years ago. I'm from the UK and we adore the video here. 50% of people in the UK are atheists and don't believe in Satan, so we just see it as a glorious piece of theatrical social commentary.

by Anonymousreply 25403/29/2021

We don’t care what the UK thinks.

by Anonymousreply 25503/29/2021

^ what a fucking moron^

by Anonymousreply 25603/29/2021

Nike suit filed today in New York federal court

[quote]Nike is suing MSCHF for trademark infringement and dilution and unfair competition. It's seeking compensatory, statutory and punitive damages, plus disgorgement of profits in an amount to be determined and is asking the court to order that the shoes and all marketing materials be turned over to Nike for destruction.

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He knows what he's doing. People are stupid as fuck. The shoes were maybe a bad idea. I'd wear em though. Pentagrams ain't about devil worship and blood ain't new. He's fucking with Satan man. He's THE hot bottom on top - boy knows how to ride. He will survive. He's the top 6 trending topics on YouTube. Lil Nas X is on🔥.

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by Anonymousreply 25803/29/2021

Little Richard wanted todo this on the Ed Sullivan show 60 years ago - but Gary Morton talked him out of it.

by Anonymousreply 25903/29/2021

still #1 on itunes!

by Anonymousreply 26003/29/2021

Nike is suing MSCHR. They do not want to be affiliated with those Satan shoes.

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Artists don’t make money of music anymore, somwhat you do is this:

- create a mediocre song (nobody pays attention to the music anyway) with an outrageous video. - associate an equally outrageous luxury item with the song/video. - conservative pundits (via Fox, etc.) will protest and “woke” pundits (via Slate, Salon, etc.) will defend the video/item. - lots of debate about the video on social media and free promotion. - you’ve just earned nearly a million dollars in a couple of days

by Anonymousreply 26203/30/2021

The song for "Montero (Call Me By Your Name") is not a big deal, but the video is cool. In a world where hysterics see the devil in everything, it is refreshing for a singer to show up giving his ass to Satan himself. And it goes further: in the end, Lil Nas X plucks the bad thing's horns and crowns himself as the new King of Darkness.

by Anonymousreply 26303/30/2021

I love that currently there's over 10X the amount of likes to dislikes on his video.

by Anonymousreply 26403/30/2021

It's like he's playing with a Ouija Board. Boy better be careful.

by Anonymousreply 26503/30/2021

Nike uses sweatshop labor and marks up the price of it's shoes because of the brand. I'm sure they've stolen designs of unknown designers too. They have the nerve to sue LNX for making a shoe similar to theirs and having it be Satan themed. They need to gtfo.

by Anonymousreply 26603/30/2021

What established mainstream artist will collaborative or associate with him? Same with major brands and companies. Has intentionally ruined his image and brand.

by Anonymousreply 26703/30/2021

He literally raped me and killed me!

by Anonymousreply 26803/30/2021

[quote] Artists don’t make money of music anymore, somwhat you do is this:

Come again.

[quote] marks up the price of it's shoes

Oh, dear!

by Anonymousreply 26903/30/2021

Playing Hades (my favorite game) while listening to Montero (my favorite song of 2021).

This is so cool.

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by Anonymousreply 27003/30/2021

Just a disgusting, unwholesome video. Like WAP. Just disgusting and ugly.

See, this is why many young women like Taylor Swift and K-pop: they're wholesome yet still sexy sometimes.

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Taylor is not sexy at all and Kpop idols look like kids.

And WAP is shit song but if it was male rappers nobody would have cared.

And also sexually explicit songs have always existed and most people like sex.

by Anonymousreply 27203/30/2021

And the behind the scenes industry of Kpop is far from wholesome. Don't be fooled by all the bright colors, plastic surgery, photoshop and giddy lyrics.

by Anonymousreply 27303/30/2021

R273, such a Western media cliche. Zero knowledge about legislation and mainstream practices. Not surprising. It's DL.

by Anonymousreply 27403/30/2021

R274

It's a capitalist industry built on instilling insecurity into young people and preaching shallow consumerism and it commodifies human beings.

by Anonymousreply 27503/30/2021

Hell yeah!

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Kpop stans are nuts

by Anonymousreply 27703/30/2021

Nike don't play. It was stupid of Lil Nas X to use Nike sneakers for this. He should've used a no-name brand and transform them into those special edition footwear.

by Anonymousreply 27803/30/2021

Lil Nas X didn't use them, it's the company issuing them that is being sued. And it's also a protected act to take existing products and enhance them and resell them, so Nike has a bit of an uphill climb on this one.

Nike also didn't protest when someone made Jesus Nikes awhile back, so that will work against them as well.

by Anonymousreply 27903/30/2021

R279, the two are not comparable

by Anonymousreply 28003/30/2021

Why are grown adults acting so childish and stupid about this? Jeez, the youth are showing more maturity here. People are so idiotic.

by Anonymousreply 28103/30/2021

[quote] and most people like sex.

Not here.

by Anonymousreply 28203/30/2021

If someone like Shawn Mendes declared he’s gay and put out this exact same video, you know the majority of the concerned and pearl clutching here would be too busy with their hands down their pants to even post anything.

by Anonymousreply 28303/30/2021

Satan is real, demons are real, it's not about service to self - although that's related but it's really about worshipping evil. There is where white people fuck up, they keep defaulting to bible thumping. Occultists and religious practioners are correct about at least one thing, the devil is real.

by Anonymousreply 28403/30/2021

Mkay.

by Anonymousreply 28503/30/2021

R284

Go back to homophobic Lipstick Alley.

by Anonymousreply 28603/30/2021

r284, I disagree. Satan is just as much a fantasy as is God. Both were created by the same marketing team.

Good and evil? Sure, that exists. Satan and God (also hell and heaven, demons and angels) are just human creations to give us some, imaginative, visual aid.

It's the good ol' "half glass empty" vs. "half glass full". You either decide that you believe

- Everything is bad and everything sucks (and there is plenty of proof for that),

or

- You believe life is great (and there is plenty of proof for that as well).

by Anonymousreply 28703/30/2021

I supported him until he went off the deep end with this satanic mess. I won’t support anything associated with evil, demons, or Satan, which are opposed to God. You can’t dabble in Satanic Crap and be right with God. I pray he turns from this path and apologizes

by Anonymousreply 28803/30/2021

R288 Who let Helen Lovejoy on datalounge?

by Anonymousreply 28903/30/2021

To be fair, r289, Rev. Lovejoy has been here for years.

(Don’t tell Helen, though!)

by Anonymousreply 29003/30/2021

Jesus Christ, Preacher had Hitler killing the Devil and taking over hell, Jesus as a retarded clone and god being and S and M biker freak -- and it never got this much attention.

by Anonymousreply 29103/30/2021

R291

A lot of media depicts the devil, demons, hell, Satan and yet they’re (mostly) solely triggered by Lil Nas X. Hell, there’s even Halloween every year.

These people are insane.

by Anonymousreply 29203/30/2021

Let's talk about something other than priests diddling little boys. Oh, some rapper did a video? It's kind of naughty, and it's about hell? OUTRAGEOUS!

by Anonymousreply 29303/30/2021

ooowwwwwwWWWWWEEEEEE!!! He's so sexy. Let him explain the song to you.

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[quote]I pray he turns from this path and apologizes

I'm sure that will be about as effective as your praying at church every Sunday for the love of dick... excuse me, "hot jock bros"... out of your heart, and that you'll wake up straight one day so you can finally marry a woman and finally fit in with your peer group.

One day. Jesus saves.

by Anonymousreply 29503/30/2021

I don’t love Dick. I love ass.

by Anonymousreply 29603/30/2021

[quote] I don’t love Dick.

Sock it to me?

by Anonymousreply 29703/30/2021

People realize Satan is not real right? The bible is a book, like Harry Potter is a book., It is a collection of stories written by men to control people through fear, just like Harry Potter.

by Anonymousreply 29803/30/2021

This video makes gay men look bad period. Degeneracy.

by Anonymousreply 29903/30/2021

You should look so good R299. Lil Nas X make gay men look sexual, evolved, powerful, human and proud. Unafraid.

by Anonymousreply 30003/30/2021

R300, no he makes us look like sex-obsessed craven degenerates. How can you watch that trash and get "evolved, powerful, human, and proud"? You just know most people are thinking, "this is why they shouldn't have rights" after they watched that garbage

by Anonymousreply 30103/30/2021

Because straight people never make sexy skanky music videos. Spare me, frau

by Anonymousreply 30203/30/2021

I’ve been streaming Montero all day. Let’s get this gay anthem to #1!

by Anonymousreply 30303/30/2021

I like what he said in his tweet. Something like hope y'all feel like shit because y'all made me feel like shit for being gay. Christians telling people God will send them to hell for being gay. He's absolutely right.

by Anonymousreply 30403/30/2021

'What established mainstream artist will collaborate with him'

Bitch, he IS an established mainstream artist. The LGBT friendly fans who love Harry Styles absolutely adore him. This will be his second number one on the Hot 100 and he's only 21. And like Harry, maybe he doesn't want to collab with anybody. He can sing well and he can rap so he doesn't need another vocalist.

by Anonymousreply 30503/30/2021

'no he makes us look like sex-obsessed craven degenerates. How can you watch that trash and get "evolved, powerful, human, and proud"?'

And yet you're fine when Madonna does it, you hypocritical homophobe.

by Anonymousreply 30603/30/2021

Did you actually watch the video? The snake licks him and he lap dances for the devil, breaks his neck and steals his crown. There is no sex. But God forbid (no pun intended) a guy lap dance for another guy.....sinful!

by Anonymousreply 30703/31/2021

R304 People need to stop overusing "y'all" like they are all from the American South. It's totally gross and disrupts whatever you are trying to say.

by Anonymousreply 30803/31/2021

The rapper fans are rabid. Surprised we don't get more of them here when discussing Kanye.

by Anonymousreply 30903/31/2021

I have inspected this person's video and can now securely say that he has a DL-diagnosed tragic case of tinynips.

by Anonymousreply 31003/31/2021

[quote]It is a collection of stories written by men to control people through fear, just like Harry Potter.

The Harry Potter books were written by men? to control people through fear?

by Anonymousreply 31103/31/2021

Listen people, I’m the biggest prude in the world. I have never taken a nude picture, let alone sent one. My nickname has been “grandpa” since I was a teenager and refused to let anyone ride in my car without wearing a seatbelt. I don’t text or use social media.

But even I can appreciate the artistic offering in this case. I think it’s a beautiful message and narrative. This is not my taste in music or art for that matter but if I can see the truth in this piece, anybody can.

by Anonymousreply 31203/31/2021

just watched it for the first time.

People are getting they knickers in a knot of THIS? must be a very slow news cycle

by Anonymousreply 31303/31/2021

I don’t think it is appropriate for kids though. They don’t need to be watching lap dances from anybody, gay or straight. This is adult stuff. The kids are being saturated by sexual imagery from Tik Tok and it’s almost like they are being primed for underaged sex. The entire app is a sex app. Why should kids have that?

by Anonymousreply 31403/31/2021

R313 - well it *was* a slow news cycle until the Matt Gaetz scandal exploded its load all over the place!

by Anonymousreply 31503/31/2021

R314 is right!!

As a kid watching Madonna’s Like A Virgin performance at the award show, it turned me gay!!

I KNOW that has to be it.

by Anonymousreply 31603/31/2021

still at #1 on itunes!

AND!!!!!!! the extended version is #38

this is definitely going to chart very well on the hot 100

by Anonymousreply 31703/31/2021

I think this kid gave a much needed shot in the arm to gay male culture, which was in need of a RuPaul-type makeover for a few years now.

by Anonymousreply 31803/31/2021

R308 I is from the south.

Thank yew!

by Anonymousreply 31903/31/2021

Trash video, trash performer, and y'all make him rich and famous. He's laughing all the way to the bank.

by Anonymousreply 32003/31/2021

r311 Yes the truth about Harry Potter is scary. It is why JK Rowling is so against trans people. She is really a man and wrote books to control people and start their own religion.

by Anonymousreply 32103/31/2021

It's funny that the queens above are more concerned about the sexy lap dance than they are the BRUTAL KILLING that occurred right after.

by Anonymousreply 32203/31/2021

Killing Satan, R322, would be seen as a symbolic act by any person of minimal intelligence. In this case, it is just the penultimate symbolic act in the video.

But you're special, aren't you?

by Anonymousreply 32303/31/2021

It's Vulture, but the headline is correct. For now and all times. Why act so horrified that he lap dances with Satan? We all know that's not what the *outrage* is really about. When women, black people, black women, gay men or THIS young unapologetic BLACK man brazenly SHOW their sexual power and personal freedom.....it upsets many individuals and structures.

Aside from that - it's a good song, fun video - by a sexy ass real talent cute proud young BLACK man, who is controlling the conversation. He's playing all the parts. And taking on all players. Go on Lil Nas X.

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by Anonymousreply 32403/31/2021

He puts the clowns back down in their seats. But acknowledges his mistakes. Continue with the class. Winning and winning - sexy ass gay black male music ARTIST. Dude's a GAY hero. And a pop STAR.

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by Anonymousreply 32503/31/2021

R323 violence is violence. I wasn't commenting on the symbolism.

by Anonymousreply 32603/31/2021

R324 if he wasn't black, would you be shouting his accolades quite so loudly?

by Anonymousreply 32703/31/2021

Now gay go-go boys will attack patrons, claiming they are "attacking Satan" and ....

Nah, it's just some bad music and a trashy video trying to be provocative.

Dismiss - and next ...

by Anonymousreply 32803/31/2021

I’m just confused by all of the haters on DataLounge of all places. This is the gay mainstream art we needed. And the pop star who created it is actually a gay man, which is a huge shift from the Lady Gaga and Macklemore types of gay mainstream empowerment anthems. What Lil Nas X has delivered is revolutionary for gay mainstream artists. Fuck the bullshit haters. The only other recent gay huge pop success was Sam Smith, and I don’t recall him making anything particularly empowering for gay people.

by Anonymousreply 32903/31/2021

You must not have read my plaque, R329...

Give me your 'phobes, your trolls,

Your geriatric masses shrieking like banshees,

The wretched refuse flaunting prolapsed hole.

Send these, the superstitious, pearl-clutch't to me,

I smooth my caftan and abrogate all control!

by Anonymousreply 33003/31/2021

R329 Empowering to be stereotypes, sure. Pass.

by Anonymousreply 33103/31/2021

He's given us his buttocks. But we're waiting for his lambent penis.

by Anonymousreply 33203/31/2021

I’ve only gotten up to response 187. But I can’t believe the dark cloud that still resides over the gay community, the fear that we still have to try so hard to get those who obviously hate us to like us - still. He can’t be flammimg because I got beat up as a kid for being flammimg. We can’t bend genders, that just makes us look like sissies and it’s gonna make them hate us more. We can’t fuck with Satan - well because he’s real and the church will be mad. JESUS CHRIST you people, the definition of Stockholm syndrome.

And all of you saying it’s a career ruining move. Maybe the kid doesn’t want mass selling Coca Cola at the super bowl appeal. Maybe he wants to put the biggest bullet in that idea of who he is while he has a major platform to do it. Maybe he’d rather just fucking be his daring self and have fans who love him for him and not for whom they think he is. I mean he already tasted huge fame and it probably felt extremely claustrophobic from what it was forcing him to become.

And I’ve always loved the fact that Mr. Fuck You Like an Animal NIN Trent Reznor is sampled in OTR and gave his blessing. Lil Nas was already giving a two finger fuck you to middle America but they were too dumb to realize it. And they still dragged him over the coals, not for being gay but black. Fuck ‘em.

Why on earth are will still trying to make them feel comfortable with our presence? Yet katty Perry can talk about bringing out her “big balloons?”

My only fear is the white hot heat of the energy he’s bringing down on himself will obliterate him. He just kicked a door wide open for a whole generation of young artist who’ve been hiding their entire lives but he might get sacraficed for it. BUT I applaud and thank him for doing so - for us.

And no matter how you feel, we need to support this move. Because if we don’t, the world definitely won’t and will use us as the excuse to silence this type of bravery.

by Anonymousreply 33303/31/2021

^ 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👊🏾

by Anonymousreply 33403/31/2021

Not for nothing (and a bit of shameless promotion) this video really charged me. I’m a 45 year old black designer who grew up in the Baptist Church. I know exactly the anger this kid is speaking from. The fuck it all attitude. I consider getting over the church one of the greatest achievements of my life. I created my t-shirt line around it. Yet even still I find myself tip-toeing around the imagery, my ideas. I know what I feel in my heart but I’m still trying not to anger those who were only all too comfortable making me hate myself.

And here comes this 21 yo kid with everything to lose in such a major way blantantly forcing those exact same people to look at themselves. He’s not poking the bear, be shot the damn thing in the head and told them to come pick up the body.

This is my exact testimony:

“ Baptist Training Union was born from my roots growing up in the Southern Baptist Church. It’s a celebration of community, of a shared experience. This is not an affirmation of religious tenets. Baptist Training Union is a reclaiming of the words that once guided me - words that were then used against me - and turning them into inspiration for the clothes that I design.

This is a love letter to those traditions that I can now look back on and honor in my own way, in my own voice and sense of style. And It’s my hope to continue that sense of community, through my clothes, with like-minded individuals, who have discovered the power and freedom of self-expression on this side of the cross – people who remember their roots, but bear their own fruit.”

Lil Nas is my God - my next tee.

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by Anonymousreply 33503/31/2021

I really would love to reach him.

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by Anonymousreply 33603/31/2021

R333, most people don’t want to be the radical subversive you think you are

by Anonymousreply 33704/01/2021

"Lambent," R332?

by Anonymousreply 33804/01/2021

Tacky!

by Anonymousreply 33904/01/2021

She is right about this

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by Anonymousreply 34004/01/2021

Candace Owens? REALLY?

by Anonymousreply 34104/01/2021

I don’t care who’s saying it. If it’s true, it’s true

by Anonymousreply 34204/01/2021

So are/were you part of 'Blexit', then?

by Anonymousreply 34304/01/2021

Your reasoning is faulty

by Anonymousreply 34404/01/2021

Pray for me then - Satan must have gotten a hold on me. Damn you Lil Nas X!

by Anonymousreply 34504/01/2021

Listen

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by Anonymousreply 34604/01/2021

R331

Fuck conformity. Fuck straight people and straight worshippers. Fuck conservatives and Christians. And especially FUCK YOU and the other rancid asshole homophobes in this thread and on this increasingly more conservative forum.

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by Anonymousreply 34704/01/2021

Chill r347. Chill

by Anonymousreply 34804/01/2021

Song is extremely mediocre, and if anyone can’t hear the autotune they need a hearing test. The video is spectacular and creative, but what’s with equating gay with trans/transvestite? He came out as gay, not trans, right? Two completely different things. The most noteworthy thing about this is the determination to be provocative. There’s no substance and it’s just ...not good music.

by Anonymousreply 34904/01/2021

R349

It’s not trans you fucking idiot. Fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 35004/01/2021

For my next video, I will rape the Founding Fathers, then kill them!

by Anonymousreply 35104/01/2021

The trolls are out of control here.

by Anonymousreply 35204/01/2021

R350 a man dressing as woman isn’t at all trans related, you say? Why all that’s missing is making a tit of himself on Twitter and Tumblr. Add DL to that, too.

by Anonymousreply 35304/01/2021

R353

You’re obviously someone who has no experience with gay culture. Fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 35404/01/2021

A man dressing as a woman might rather be considered the opposite of trans. Drag culture (and for that matter transvestism) to some degree depends on there being a MAN under the costume.

by Anonymousreply 35504/01/2021

He’s not even “dressed as a woman” in this. He’s wearing men’s boxer briefs (and you can see his bulge) and heeled boots.

The trolls are really trying it.

by Anonymousreply 35604/01/2021

I can’t wait for his next video

by Anonymousreply 35704/01/2021

I really hope he gives a Sexy Jesus a lapdance in his next video

by Anonymousreply 35804/01/2021

I love the mythological imagery.

by Anonymousreply 35904/01/2021

R359, this blogger gets into all the mythological and biblical imagery and the combinations thereof.

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by Anonymousreply 36004/01/2021

It’s gender fluidity or nonconformity

by Anonymousreply 36104/01/2021

Why is no one talking about the massive influence from James Bidgood, or from Bidgood via Pierre et Gilles? It's glorious!

by Anonymousreply 36204/01/2021

It’s Intersting just listening to the song itself how it’s simply about an affair with a straight attached or married man. The dude isn’t living right, coke and weed. The man needs to get wasted just to deal with the fact he wants to have sex with a man. But it’s so good Lil Nas doesn’t care if he’s lying to him or has to sneak around to be with him - this kind of a relationship is indeed a Dance with the Devil.

by Anonymousreply 36304/01/2021

Many of you are two damn comfortable with Satan and demons. This is not the gay art we need.

by Anonymousreply 36404/01/2021

I feel like we haven't yet explored that acid-washed denim Marie Antoinette outfit...

by Anonymousreply 36504/01/2021

He's shilling Logitech cameras in rampant commercials now. He's in danger of becoming overexposed.

by Anonymousreply 36604/01/2021

Logitech didn’t ax his commercials?

by Anonymousreply 36704/01/2021

No, Logitech's CEO is a friend of Satan.

by Anonymousreply 36804/01/2021

R364

The sexy devil was always a favorite for gay Halloween parties.

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by Anonymousreply 36904/01/2021

jesus fucking christ.... don't be such a loser. less than 50 percent of Americans belong to a religious organization anymore. At fucking last. Satan is an archetype of temptation and sometimes our deepest desires. Nas explores more than one mythology in this video. Some of it very personal to a young black gay AMERICAN man. And he's winning. The kids don't care. They love the song and it's imagery. And who can't identify with being weak for a man who's bad for you but so good to please? Datalounge has lots of cool posters of all ages. The so called "trolls" are not from Lipstick Alley. Just some old gay white men, like always. They are disguising their racism in concern about what this *says* about the gay community. Ha. The song says dick about the gay community. Lil Nas X tells you in great detail about the songs origin and personal meaning. Satan is metaphoric, duh. But the man who inspired the song is not. See the video @ R294. It ain't that deep. Lil Nas X a sexy young man of desires and self awareness.

So many ancient white gay bottoms are fingering their mothers' pearls this easter.........shocked by some sneakers and a hit song?

by Anonymousreply 37004/01/2021

R370

I agree with most of your post, but some of the trolls definitely are from Lipstick Alley. The Bible thumper complaining about gay white men being demonic or w/e especially.

by Anonymousreply 37104/01/2021

I think the prosperity preachers who hoard all the money are the bad guys here. There is so much evil in this world but if you look closely enough, it’s not the black people who are causing the world’s problems. They are the victims of it.

About 6 or 7 people run the entire world. Start there if you want to find the source of all the misery.

by Anonymousreply 37204/01/2021

Yes, it's them! Don't kill me!

by Anonymousreply 37304/01/2021

'And no matter how you feel, we need to support this move. Because if we don’t, the world definitely won’t and will use us as the excuse to silence this type of bravery.'

Love this. There really are some excellent writers on DL.

by Anonymousreply 37404/01/2021

Candace Owen is that Trump cunt who cried 'bring back manly men' when Harry Styles wore a dress on the cover of Vogue.

by Anonymousreply 37504/01/2021

These Nike Jesus shoes were 4K. Of course.

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Nike are hypocritical bible bashers.

by Anonymousreply 37704/01/2021

R375

She and that whiny bitch Ben Shapiro.

by Anonymousreply 37804/01/2021

The only black wallet Candace Owens has ever cared about is her own. Fuck that Auntie Tom

by Anonymousreply 37904/01/2021

That was resale, R376. The original price matched the bible verse about Jesus walking on water.

Strange that I don't recall Nike suing over those.

by Anonymousreply 38004/01/2021

Do we really have devout Christians on this thread or just trolls?

by Anonymousreply 38104/01/2021

A bit of column A, a bit of column B......

by Anonymousreply 38204/01/2021

We have a lot of ancients who love to complain about what people wear to church these days and how when they were children, "my brother and I were resplendent in matching bowties and starched white shirts and Mother always worse pristine white gloves!"

When you see a post like that and look at the posting history, occasionally it'll be a troll but more often than not you'll see a lot of hissing about people not drinking milk anymore and how 1967 ruined music forever.

by Anonymousreply 38304/01/2021

R375 to be fair, Harry Styles did look ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 38404/01/2021

After this video, I don't want to hear anything about how Harry Styles "pushes boundaries"

by Anonymousreply 38504/01/2021

[QUOTE] Do we really have devout Christians on this thread or just trolls?

It's the DL Klan. They invaded to be racist about Meghan but they attack other people of colour too.

by Anonymousreply 38604/01/2021

Theses are aftermarket designs. So to all the idiots who just can’t comprehend this, Nike had nothing to do with it. The company bought Nikes and then added the regalia.

I just don’t understand what is so hard to digest about that. It’s just not getting through to some real dim bulbs around here.

by Anonymousreply 38704/01/2021

R385 "Pushing boundaries" just means that someone doesn't have enough actual talent and/or isn't interesting in and of themselves without doing something like cross-dressing to try and stand out. It's like using autotune.

by Anonymousreply 38804/02/2021

R387 calls others idiots and dim bulbs, but thinks theses is a plural of these.

by Anonymousreply 38904/02/2021

[quote] Logitech didn’t ax his commercials?

What would they question about it?

by Anonymousreply 39004/02/2021

If Nike is suing someone for adapting a product that is for sale to be used as the purchaser desires, they better go after Jesus shoes too. It’s the exact same premise applied to the same canon. I love how much hypocrisy this is exposing.

by Anonymousreply 39104/02/2021

[quote]If Nike is suing someone for adapting a product that is for sale to be used as the purchaser desires, they better go after Jesus shoes too.

Nike isn't suing for adapting its product, it's suing for damaging its brand.

by Anonymousreply 39204/02/2021

R391, Jesus doesn’t hurt Nike’s brand. The association is extremely positive, good press

by Anonymousreply 39304/02/2021

It would’ve been more controversial if he had fucked Jesus.

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You’re vile and blasphemous r394.

by Anonymousreply 39504/02/2021

The youth are going to boycott Nike now. Dumb move. Nike (and the weirdos all of a sudden defending them) really can’t read the room.

by Anonymousreply 39604/02/2021

Satan seemed oddly affectless and unoccupied during that hot-and-heavy lap dance. Are we sure he was alive to start with?

by Anonymousreply 39704/02/2021

[QUOTE] Pushing boundaries" just means that someone doesn't have enough actual talent and/or isn't interesting in and of themselves without doing something like cross-dressing to try and stand out.

Dumbass, Styles had a US number one single and two number one albums before he wore a dress on Vogue. Fine Line was the 5th best selling album in the world in 2020, despite being released in 2019.

by Anonymousreply 39804/02/2021

There's seriously gay men considered with a fucking video about sex with Satan? And Satanism? And they're not parody posts?

by Anonymousreply 39904/02/2021

^^concerned^^

by Anonymousreply 40004/02/2021

R399, it’s not 1978 dude

by Anonymousreply 40104/03/2021

It's scary, funny and sad to me that people actually believe in the devil.

by Anonymousreply 40204/03/2021

Christ Jesus certainly did. That’s all I need to know on the topic.

by Anonymousreply 40304/03/2021

Believed in his existence, that is *

by Anonymousreply 40404/03/2021

Justin Bieber who is mediocre in every way has a massive following especially when he "found" God and got married. So Evangelicals and suburbanites love him and forget about his shitty behavior.

Lil Nas X is black and gay and that will always be a penalty against him in the eyes of these Republicans. Also, he isn't playing it safe and his music is getting more sexual. Unlike Harry, Tyler and Frank Ocean who try to be sexually ambiguous. Nas is no longer hiding his love of cock and anal. So he isn't fulfilling the sexless gay friend stereotype in the media either.

Sure he isn't the first or only gay artist to do this but he has a massive mainstream platform and success which makes the "Montero" video more groundbreaking.

by Anonymousreply 40504/03/2021

R405

Exactly!

by Anonymousreply 40604/03/2021

Satanists are just Christians turned inside out. All the same moralistic boring Abrahamica-cult shit, just wearing black BDSM-gear instead of white lace. Yawn.

by Anonymousreply 40704/03/2021

R394 Jesus was totally gay. He wore caftans on the daily, had a posse of celibate male hangers-on, his father was God but he more often professed his love for his mother, he had a prostitute for a hag. His final act on Earth was to throw a dinner party.

Not to mention how he so easily gave up working with his stepdad at the v.masc family business, to become a personal motivational speaker and showman, yet as far as we know he did not do this in order to fuck tons of young straight women who would no doubt have been obsessed with his flowing locks. He had a penchant for cleanliness and civil polite behaviour in an age not known for that.

Then there’s all that Xtian iconography—in Churches, dogmatic texts, on relics and murals—which depicts him half or mostly naked and muscular. And his reaction to that flogging by Pilate was kind of....uhhhh...hmmm. I’m just saying.

by Anonymousreply 40804/03/2021

Jesus Christ was no fag, and I'm the dame who can prove it!

by Anonymousreply 40904/03/2021

That's my point, R401. Dude. It's surely not 1978.

Who the hell believes in, well, hell anymore? And is actually concerned with devil imagery to the degree it might hinder their eternal "soul"?

No one I know. The video is just silly, sexy fun.

by Anonymousreply 41004/03/2021

The majority of Americans believe in tg existence of Satan, the overwhelming majority in huge swaths of the nation. You’d have to be in an insular cultural bubble not to know that basic fact about America

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I love this video so much

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by Anonymousreply 41204/03/2021

R361, that's precisely the problem. Men are men and women are women. It is biological; innate. You are not going to change this fact no matter how much you wish it to be.

Gender nonconformity for what reason? Your genes will still always betray you.

by Anonymousreply 41304/03/2021

Jesus is Lord and Healer! 🙏🏽🙌🏽 DMX has been “taken off the life support system and is breathing on his own,” his attorney said.

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Millions are praying

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by Anonymousreply 41504/03/2021

Guess this really is another Dark Age of Art. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 41604/03/2021

Black people saying

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DL weekend racist old WHITE men always are trying shit to deflect from the new black truth.

You spent 2/3 of your life on your knees R417. Worshipping dick.

Black OR white people can pray if they want to. When they want to. You understand nothing R417 about what black people say. We do not speak with one voice. You do this on purpose. That's what racists do.

Happy Easter, fool.

by Anonymousreply 41804/03/2021

So many Klan whores posting on this thread, the same fuckers who hate Obama and Kamala.

by Anonymousreply 41904/03/2021

Unless Lil Nas X's Satanism caused DMX to overdose, posts R414 and R415 appear to be in the wrong thread.

by Anonymousreply 42004/03/2021

I want his ass in my face. I want to eat him out.

by Anonymousreply 42104/04/2021

Well, it seems this will be number one on the billboard hot 100 so the move was not that bad, and he is having a quite lasting career for someone who seemed a total one hit wonder (a huge one in his case).

Radio is refusing to touch this, but they did the same with Old time road and he was not even out of the closet back then

by Anonymousreply 42204/04/2021

R422

He wasn’t even a one hit wonder before this. Panini was a huge hit. Not a #1 hit, but a huge hit.

by Anonymousreply 42304/04/2021

R423 Yes Panini was top 5, but at the time of Old time road everybody thought he will be done after that.

Even Holiday was a decent hit

by Anonymousreply 42404/04/2021

Holiday also did well on charts and still is getting airplay

by Anonymousreply 42504/04/2021

Refuge in Audacity.

Madonna did it too, to great success. It’s an old trick from a dusty playbook, but clearly it works.

If only he had something profound, interesting or surprising to say in his music, as well.

by Anonymousreply 42604/04/2021

R426

“If only he had something profound, interesting or surprising to say in his music, as well.”

He does. No mainstream pop artist has been this explicit about gay sex in their lyrics.

by Anonymousreply 42704/04/2021

You mean gay male

by Anonymousreply 42804/04/2021

R427 Not profound or interesting. I'll give it surprising, but that's it.

by Anonymousreply 42904/04/2021

This would a good time for Fly Young Red to re-release his 2014 cult video - Throw That Boy Pussy.

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by Anonymousreply 43004/05/2021

It’s teens who are losing their minds over this. Daily reminder that kids are stupid, and find meaning in anything trashy and vapid if it’s wrapped up in some faux-edgy paper.

I mean, I was a fan of Abney Park as a teen. And now I know better.

by Anonymousreply 43104/05/2021

A fan of who?

by Anonymousreply 43204/05/2021

Exactly R432.

by Anonymousreply 43304/05/2021

I saw some mothers with gay kids praising Lil Nas X on social media, and thought that was so cool and sweet.

by Anonymousreply 43404/05/2021

R429 “y’ain’t bumpin’ like I’m bumpin’, y’ain’t saying nothin’ Homie....y’ain’t got It”

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by Anonymousreply 43504/05/2021

What’s funny to me is that the explicitly-gay rap of late actually seems less homoerotic and less gay in sensibility than earlier works. Guess the verboten makes art more intense, or something.

And not to be that guy, but...closeted rappers seem to have better flow? Maybe because of all that pent-up emotion and rage and vitriol (the foundation of rap as we know it)? I’m not condoning homophobia, but there does seem to be something to the theory. Don’t come for me, I’m just saying.

by Anonymousreply 43604/05/2021

How do you know closeted rappers are gay or bi?

by Anonymousreply 43704/05/2021

This concept is way too literal, and frankly juvenile.

Satan doesn’t come dressed in red with horns and he doesn’t sit on a throne demanding your grateful service;he comes dressed as an angel, who offers to serve you and give you everything you ever wanted...that’s the trick of the whole deal.

by Anonymousreply 43804/05/2021

R438 That's the point.

American Christians tend to take The Bible literally and they really do see Satan as a red skinned horned demon who rules over hell. Evangelicalism is anti-intellectual and relies on fear-mongering, shock value and prosperity preaching to keep its followings.

by Anonymousreply 43904/05/2021

I love how familiar r438 is with satan’s sartorial choices, like he has first hand experience. Let me guess, angels are dressed in white with wings, blond hair, blue eyes, soft curls?

First of all, neither exist. And Lil Nas X is portraying him just as every iconic cultural time period he shows in the video references him.

by Anonymousreply 44004/05/2021

R439 if you think a Satan exists YOU’RE taking the Bible just as literally as the Evangelicals you are bemoaning.

by Anonymousreply 44104/05/2021

Well, you said it R440. It’s nothing new. It’s Hallowe’en-costume levels of aesthetic and artistic intelligence. Like what someone else said ultbread about a new Dark Ages. All these youngsters aren’t actually educated enough to think about what they’re saying, or how to reinterpret and reinvent cultural tropes in a way that applies to our world and to something beyond it.

The truly courageous thing would have been to expose the ritual sex abuse in the rap game itself. Many hundreds of young men, boys, and vulnerable women have been brutalised and raped and left with nothing in the wake of the big name ballers who currently enjoy adulation and $$$$. That’s the real seductive evil.

But of course, speaking on that means no career for Lil dude...

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by Anonymousreply 44204/05/2021

R442 is desperate for attention. Ignore it.

by Anonymousreply 44304/05/2021

R442 ok, you are just going off on a tangent. Maybe he should have taken on systemic racial inequalities that have kept Fresno migrant workers stuck in the shadows for decades. Let’s see what else could he have thrown in there?

This is on par with Madonna kissing a black Jesus’s feet. They are pop stars. Simplicity is key and you still have to entertain.

by Anonymousreply 44404/05/2021

R439, uh Christians who read the Bible certainly don’t see Christians that way. The red horn and pitchfork depiction is found in popular, extrabiblical culture, not Christianity.

by Anonymousreply 44504/05/2021

I meant: [R439], uh Christians who read the Bible certainly don’t view Satan that way. The red horn and pitchfork depiction is found in popular, extrabiblical culture, not Christianity.

by Anonymousreply 44604/05/2021

Damn but some of you bitches are COMMITTED to thoroughly informing us how little you care about Lil Nas.

by Anonymousreply 44704/05/2021

I'm happy he is so out and proud. He seems like a nice guy. Finally the young kids have someone to look up to. However, his music is still shit, it's fucking awful. He needs to shock people, because that's his schtick. He can't rely on just his music speaking for itself because the music is so bad. He doesn't have any talent, it makes me sad. He does this shock and horror shit to deflect from his shitty music.

by Anonymousreply 44804/05/2021

I care that people are licking his undeserving feet and his ass like he’s the Pope. Gimmicks aside, he doesn’t have bars, and that’s that.

by Anonymousreply 44904/05/2021

Who is the best current rapper?

by Anonymousreply 45004/05/2021

[quote]I care that people are licking his undeserving feet and his ass

Pics please (emphasis on the ass).

by Anonymousreply 45104/05/2021

He better have good security

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by Anonymousreply 45204/05/2021

R452

Fuck off, conservative.

by Anonymousreply 45304/05/2021

The song is a goddamn bop.

by Anonymousreply 45404/05/2021

R441 I don't think Satan exists. I'm agnostic. I just have a knowledge of Christianity and theology. Evangelicals are mocked by other Christians who also criticize their belief in Biblical literalism. Evangelicalism was a product of American anti-intellectualism and love of capitalism.

by Anonymousreply 45504/05/2021

Evangelicalism is the dominant sector of modern Christianity, globally and domestically

by Anonymousreply 45604/05/2021

Damn, r455, that’s a lot of -isms.

by Anonymousreply 45704/05/2021

The church is an institution and she be answerable to higher authorities that keep it line - right or wrong. Evangelicalism is free market religion. Any wackadoo can hang up a shingle and say god spoke to them.

by Anonymousreply 45804/05/2021

R431 - teens (and the younger generations in general) are the future, a fact which shouldn't be lost on you as it's certainly not lost on the companies that can assess from which part of the population come their future profits. It's a lose/lose for the old farts (and rabid Christians) of the world who are so very aghast at this video.

by Anonymousreply 45904/05/2021

The song is insanely catchy. After just one listen the chorus was stuck in my brain for a few hours and I can still remember it now - you can't say that about every song. It deserves to go to number one.

'It’s teens who are losing their minds over this' - considering Nas is only 21, I'm sure he is absolutely fine with that. Teens are a huge, passionate audience who spend a lot of money on merch, love gigs and stream manically.

by Anonymousreply 46004/05/2021

It’s the number one song in the nation

by Anonymousreply 46104/05/2021

Yes it is!! # ONE. If there was any doubt that Lil Nas X is a gay MAN, read this tweet. Shady and proud. He said he's gay many times by the way. Not fluid or non binary. He's a sexy ass cute face beautiful lips glossy chocolate skinned young GAY man! Smart and quick. Tempting and tempted. Honest in his music. He's having a great time. Haters gonna hate. Let your tears fill his cup.🥂

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by Anonymousreply 46204/05/2021

That’s not a good look. Very nasty and petty. Grow up dude

by Anonymousreply 46304/05/2021

It's a perfectly reasonable response from a 21 year old on social media, R463. I suspect you are more than 3 X the age of Lil Nas. Such a little tsk tsk-er you are old (white) dude. You sound just like your mommy. Y'all might want to examine that.

by Anonymousreply 46404/05/2021

He could have just fucked Darkness from Legend* instead of Satan, one fictional villain being just as suitable as another.

*I'd have said Jack, but everyone knows what a bottom Tom is.

by Anonymousreply 46504/05/2021

Darkness from Legend was recently seen selling dating services.

by Anonymousreply 46604/05/2021

I love how raw and open and fierce and funny he is, instead of the boring 'never complain, never explain' stance that other young stars like Harry Styles take.

by Anonymousreply 46704/05/2021

You mean, the being a decent and mature person stance?

by Anonymousreply 46804/05/2021

R466 Jack can't get enough dick in him and Gump is a huge draw for the "barely legal" crowd.

by Anonymousreply 46904/05/2021

He is well liked by black LGBT community, but from what I can tell people arent feeling the song or video that much. A lot of people feel that the lacefront wig and outfit was especially tired, and that the concept has already been done.

by Anonymousreply 47004/05/2021

Haha. Keep searching for things to criticize R470.

[quote]from what I can tell people aren't feeling the song or video that much.

Is that why they're both number one?

by Anonymousreply 47104/05/2021

r471 I knew one of you hoes was going to clap back. Listen gurl. Im just reporting on what I have seen on other areas of the internet. And by "people" I mean majority of black LGBT persons, who arent really feeling the video. Fortunately he doesn't need black LGBT support to make it to #1.

by Anonymousreply 47204/05/2021

' I hope he saved some of his "Old Country Time Lemonade" (or whatever it was called) money because he just shortened and narrowed his career.'

This post aged like milk, R3! He'll be number one in the US on Friday.

by Anonymousreply 47304/05/2021

^👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️

Old white gay men all smell like sour milk.

by Anonymousreply 47404/05/2021

'And by "people" I mean majority of black LGBT persons, who arent really feeling the video'

Sure, because you know so many black LGBT people, mayo Grandad. Just say you're a Klan Granny and go.

by Anonymousreply 47504/05/2021

r475 hunny you are mad for no reason Im just reporting the facts. Gays of color still stan for women way more than they do for him, you know its true. Megan Cardi and Nicki, those are the lyrics young queens recite

by Anonymousreply 47604/05/2021

R475, you don’t speak for black lgbt men

by Anonymousreply 47704/06/2021

So are we saying to be gay = petty?

by Anonymousreply 47804/06/2021

Only in the minds of the minority of gay men who are petty, nasty

by Anonymousreply 47904/06/2021

Love all the tasteless puerile zombies here who simp for this overhyped conveyor-belt music, going off self-righteously like they’ve discovered electricity. Please, spare me. Time’s gonna tell on this one, babies.

Mock hipsters and ‘olds’ all you want. At least we actually have a metric of quality, gained through experience.

P.S. Lil Nas X will be considered over-the-hill by a gay yardstick and a pop-culture yardstick in nine years and counting. That ain’t long. Synchronise watches...

by Anonymousreply 48004/06/2021

What a weird take R480. Every current music star's career is over in less than 9 years. Lil Nas X is having a moment. A big one.

Sam Smith's pop career is already over and Adam Lambert never even had one.

What wrong with celebrating a gay man who celebrates being gay? Nas is transformative actually. Timing is everything. And he's sexy. Being sexy always changes people's minds. The song is fun too.

by Anonymousreply 48104/06/2021

R481, I don’t celebrate demonic or Satanic imagery or content. I don’t care who is doing it

by Anonymousreply 48204/06/2021

R481 yeah, if you read what I wrote you know I didn’t say shit about hating pop music, denigrating gay men, or Lil Nas looks. I also don’t have any issue to Satanic content (whatever, doesn’t bother me, not about to clutch pearls over desert-cult adherents), and furthermore I didn’t make any comparisons to other pop stars either (past or present). So it turns out you were just pulling strawmen out of your ass for no reason. Sorry you wasted your energy on that...

To reiterate for the less literate, my point was merely that all these posters drooling over him and praising his genius will be singing a different tune the second he hits a wall or stops being popular. Brutal truth is, we gays eat our own, and very rarely admit anyone into our cultural pantheon. Could happen for LNX, but it’s highly unlikely. Just being realistic, not trying to hurt feelings (though it’s really not my fault that feelings are fragile...)

by Anonymousreply 48304/06/2021

^ that's miss warwicke, the racist shitstain of datalounge. It imagines itself to be superior in intellect. Really just a racist old white man, who is also happens to be the SCAT troll.

by Anonymousreply 48404/06/2021

R474 huh? Dude, you are crazy and so off too the mark lol🙈🙈FYI I’m a young (well, ish, idk if 28 counts as young, probably not to you perverted vampires) female, who is not a racist and thinks anything sexual to do with shit is totally gross and disgusting. And idek who ‘Miss Warwicke’ even is?? But far be it for me to spoil your cute little investigation...keep at it, Inspector Gadget...

by Anonymousreply 48504/06/2021

Your posts are tedious, thin skinned and rather pointless R480/R483/R485. Carry on young woman. With whatever it is you think you're doing. How the fuck do you speak for gay men though? Or black men or music culture? The gay "yardstick"? Huh. DUDE, you're a liar. You went from being a hipster, to an OLDS to a 28 year old chick, all in one messed up minute. Ish. Bish.

by Anonymousreply 48604/06/2021

'Lil Nas X will be considered over-the-hill by a gay yardstick and a pop-culture yardstick in nine years and counting. '

Long enough for him to earn about 50m, while you slave like a dog and only make 50k a year.

by Anonymousreply 48704/06/2021

Hypocrites. So many hypocrites.

Reflexivity costs nothing, and grows dignity. But one has to choose it.

by Anonymousreply 48804/06/2021

Willing to bet X couldn’t nick the ear of one of his parrain in a battle situation, let alone cut off any heads...

Listening to O.G. No Limit lately makes it clear to me—there has been a major drop-off in quality and ability of rappers, from the top of the tree to the bottom. Since the mid-2000s, talent has been lacking. You can hear an obscure joint from a midtier rapper, released say ‘97 or ‘02, and have your mind exploded by the technique and lyricism and attitude, in a way that rap now just can’t accomplish.

My personal favourite verse in the game gives us a little insight....

[quote] B.G.: Ain't that cold? I heard a nicca downed my nicca/My pardna’ just paged me, and say dey found my nicca/It's a bust back thang, cain’t be no hoe/I got a hundred rounds plus, for mah’ Calico/Fa’ sho’, we gets busy, and leave that ass fonky/Full of that monkay, boy it’s time to act a donkey/I'mma go git, in my all black fit/When I come, just sit/‘Cuz if ya flinch, ya hit/If ya split, ‘cha split: if you die, you die/I’m takin’ ten-for-one—bye-bye, bye-bye/You dun’ took mine, I’mma take yearn’/This is what'cha earn—chopper bullets burn/S.K. trigga clicker, the blunt-smoker lighter flicker/Paper-chase up the six figures, ‘fo my issue/I'mma get to split ‘cha, gitcha—if ye in my way? I'mma deal wit'cha/Muthafucka’ take a picture!/I'll wax that ass, then tax on my ‘yay, “good day”/if play, I lay with the A.K/To spray and lay down, the snaps I get down/Nicca cain’t touch what me & Bun puttin' down/Now crowned, I come round, I distribute keys/You sleep six feet; I tear down the whole street/Wear down the family; they grieve, because ya flat/Bust ya head up, leave ya deader, yo’blood redder/I dun’ fucked ya, sit down—nicca, ‘hut?/Nicca, what? Keep ya mouth shut/Retaliation is a must, BITCH...

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by Anonymousreply 48904/07/2021

Rap "music" is garbage. At least lil nas' songs are catchy and short. And don't feel so ghetto.

by Anonymousreply 49004/07/2021

R490 so to be viable and legitimate enough to make money, a rap has to say nothing meaningful or complex, not offend the listeners’ sense of security, keep silent about the reality of the artists making it, and not run over three minutes. Gotcha.

And they say compassion, depth and intelligent thinking in music is dead nowadays...

by Anonymousreply 49104/07/2021

The original hot-take on Hell and Christian morality came out exactly 20 years ago, courtesy of Pastor Troy, and it’s way better than...whatever it is X is trying to do.

[quote] Would you start doing in Evil in order to nurture/your Spirit?

[quote] I guess I'll beg Satan to save me/God, I'm confused—the fuse of all these motherfuckers, makin' me sick/Virgin Mary never fucked nobody, but she suck dick...

[quote] I don’t where I’mma go this Christmas, it’s Satan’s birth/I’m tryna smoke a pound of weed, and ease the Earth...

[quote] Up-rooted from all this stupid shit/See me cremated, my adaption to the climate/So glad I made it/Elated that they gon' go to Heaven/But do they know Heaven may not be the place to go....!

[quote] Protect me, Devil/I think the Lord is tryna kill me...

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by Anonymousreply 49204/07/2021

It’s not shocking. It’s just retarded.

by Anonymousreply 49304/07/2021

Call My By Your Name and Ol Town Road are both songs. Nas is a singer, not a rapper.

by Anonymousreply 49404/07/2021

Well....

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by Anonymousreply 49504/07/2021

Candace is normally horrible, But here she makes valid points

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by Anonymousreply 496Last Saturday at 6:02 AM

the number one song in the world! Amazing and deserved!

by Anonymousreply 497Last Saturday at 6:41 AM

R468 she seems a smart young woman, and makes an articulate soundly-critical judgement. What’s so awful about her? (forgive my ignorance, I’ve not got the first idea who she is).

by Anonymousreply 498Last Saturday at 9:28 AM

We're still complaining about this?

by Anonymousreply 499Last Saturday at 9:31 AM

CMBYN is set to be number one on the Hot 100 on Monday.

by Anonymousreply 500Last Saturday at 2:41 PM

The song is number one in the UK on the official Top 40.

by Anonymousreply 501Last Saturday at 2:42 PM

R501 well, the 14-16 year olds will be pleased.

Just went to look up what was #1 in the U.K. Top 40 in the April of my 14th year; it was ‘Beautiful Liar’, the collaboration track by Beyoncé & Shakira. Taking aside the faux-lesbian titillation video and the overblown melismatic duelling vocals, as pop/dance music goes “ it’s simply a better-produced and more accessible song with more melodic sound than ‘MONTERO’. This killed it in the clubs and on the radio, and it still has a catchy sexy Urban Latin feel that hasn’t dated badly at all.

2007 still has no room to talk r.e. trashy gritty attention-whoring chart-toppers, of course. I’m not implying that the industry or that celebrity artists are any worse today that they were then, just that composition and production of pop music used to be objectively and technically better.

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by Anonymousreply 502Last Sunday at 3:23 AM

We love him

by Anonymousreply 503Last Sunday at 10:45 AM

This whole fiasco is so juvenile and silly. "I'm Satan! sliding a stripper pole to Hell!"

by Anonymousreply 504Last Sunday at 11:05 AM

R504 true. There’s nothing objectively sexy, beautiful, cool or artistic about it. It’s just tacky “look at me!” horror-porno schlock. It’s on a level with Marilyn Manson.

by Anonymousreply 505Last Sunday at 11:06 AM

Nahh, it's pretty damn sexy

by Anonymousreply 506Last Sunday at 11:57 AM

Not really

by Anonymousreply 507Last Sunday at 12:07 PM

It is sexy. I pop a boner every time I watch it. I want Lil Nas X and his sexy ass.

by Anonymousreply 508Last Sunday at 12:42 PM

#MeToo R508. Lil Nas X is sexy as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 509Last Sunday at 1:15 PM

LOVE that this song debuted at #1 on the Hot 100

well done! First out gay rapper to achieve that feat!

by Anonymousreply 510Last Sunday at 2:45 PM

It's number one in all the major markets - Canada, Australia, UK, US.

by Anonymousreply 511Last Sunday at 3:29 PM

Now he can REALLY fuck Satan.

by Anonymousreply 512Last Sunday at 6:43 PM

^^^Oops. Confusing him with DMX.

by Anonymousreply 513Last Sunday at 6:46 PM
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