Why did Tiffany have to drive the orange Pinto?

A couple of years later Sammy Jo Carrington owned that orange Pinto.

This drives me nuts about Charlie’s Angels. It’s not that these cars are older by season 4; they’re also raggedy looking.

There’s an episode where you can see the driver’s seat in Kelly’s car is held together by electrical tape. The Cobra looks grimy and has a broken front spoiler. And in the last episode of the series, Julie pulls up in the Pinto and it’s missing moldings and trim on the side of the car.

It’s bad enough they’re driving Pintos and Mustang IIs, which were not the cars stylish women in Los Angeles drove in the late 70s, but they’re junk by season 4.

The show just looks cheaper in seasons 4 and 5.

Bosley got a new car (the station wagon) late in season 4; these three should have received new cars as well.

Tiffany Welles was glamorous until she got into The Pinto

It's because Ford paid for them to drive Fords.

The Angels weren't raking in big money

Because Charlie couldn't find a Edsel for that flat-chested untalented whore to drive

Charlie had killer tendencies...

He insured all the Angels to the max...

and he put the ones he especially hated in the Pintos...

One rear-ender and poof!

I'm sure Ford would have willing to have more up to date models in the last 2 seasons as it was advertising, but I suspect Spelling was too cheap to re-film the establishment shots of the Townsend agency office with the new models parked in front. Bosley's car was never shown in those shots, hence he got new models.

Is that what they're calling idiot Eric now?

That damned cheap ass.

I knew lot of girls like that. Every dime went into hair, make-up and clothing. They always drove junkers. I agree with R8 though, they didn't"t feel like re-filming the establishing shots (Or putting money into the stunt women's wigs apparently). Of course now at antique car parades, the Pintos and the Pacers get the applause.

At one point, the Townsend Agency became a vacuum repair shop.

I hat d Kelly’s Mustang

This question has been bothering me for the past 50 years too OP, sometimes to the point where I can't sleep at night.

So glad I found people who share my concerns.

Because your mother is a FAT STINKING WHORE!

CA wasn’t on TV 50 yrs ago

I think part of the reason they kept the orange Pinto was because the Kate Jackson replacement was originally intended to be Sada Thompson who had just finished up her tenure on Family. Apparently TPTB thought that having a woman who was not in the 'traditional' age bracket would appeal to a broader audience and also they were potentially considering a romance between new Angel, Lorraine (Thompson's character) and David Doyle's Bosley. An orange Pinto is completely appropriate for Angel Lorraine, but not so much for Tiffany. I do know that they shot quite a bit of footage of Thompson before she backed out/TPTB changed their minds about taking this particular direction with the show.. I know Thompson mentioned she was not comfortable in her costume (blue jeans, a twin set and heels) or running around as much as she did.

It was 45 years ago R16

It debuted fall 1976

I’m talking about season 4 1979-1980

The real question should be, why did Sabrina have to drive a Pinto? She was supposed to be the smart one? Wouild't a Ford Granada been more suitable for her? Was she given the Pinto because the car had good fuel economy for a Ford and being conscious of the energy crisis and taking steps to conserve was seen as a sign of being a "smart one"?

Only on DL could we have a Sada Thompson Was Almost A Charlie’s Angel troll 😆

R20 I can see Sabrina driving a pinto because she was a cheap ass

The white Cobra was tacky, the beige Mustang was boring. But the orange Pinto was iconic and cool. Of all these cars the Pinto was featured the most and in the best scenes on the show (during season 1 to 3 of course). It was also in the most famous episode of Charlie's Angels "Angels in Chains". Of course it had to be iconic Sabrina Duncan's car! Tiffany was too waspy for that car AND the job.

Sabrina used to take a morning dump in the Pinto.

Yeah, R21. And imagine if the troll was ever funny!

Sometimes we let her drive the limo (window up)

The Mustang thing is weirder, since they introduced a new version for 1979. It must boil down to Aaron and Doug being too cheap to re-do establishing shots.

The Pinto, aside from the fire issue, was reasonably cute design for its time. The Escort might have been a snappy replacement for the Pinto for Julie, but was introduced too late for Our Tiff.

As I recall in her first episode Julie drove a Lincoln. Of course this was before she was hired by the Townsend agency so she was living large from all the jobs she got after graduating from a top school for models. Then when hired, and after getting back from Hawaii (where thankfully the Mustangs and Pinto weren't shipped to) she no longer had her Lincoln but the Pinto.

I thought they should have changed the cars out at the end of “Love Boat Angels,” or “Angels Go Truckin’,” which are Tiffany’s first episodes. At the end of one of those episodes they could have had Bosley hand each Angel a set of car keys and have Charlie say this was for a job well done.

Give Bosley the station wagon, Kelly a 1980 Ford Thunderbird, Kris a new Mustang, and Tiffany a Fairmont Futura.

In the Farrah returns episodes in season 4 the crappiness of their cars is really evident, since Jill gets to drive better cars; the scene where Cheryl Ladd tries to keep up with Porsche driving Timothy Dalton and Farrah Fawcett in the Cobra is ridiculous.

They blow up Kelly’s Mustang a second time in season 4, and she’s still driving the same car in future episodes. They send the Pinto careening down a side of a Jill with Kelly and Tiffany inside, and she’s seen driving the same car in future episodes.

In Tiffany’s final episodes (where Kris and Kelly fight over Patrick Duffy), the plot is set in San Diego. For some reason, Tiffany rented a car in San Diego -it’s the Pinto, repainted a nasty peach color with cheap, weird, blue material (I wouldn’t call it seat covers ) draped over the seats. It’s very evident it’s the Orange Pinto underneath that peach paint.

This is obsessive , I know, but I love Charlie’s Angels and I love cars and I’ve never seen this happen in a TV show-characters driving junky cars, and that isn’t a plot point or a character quirk. It just so weird since they’re supposed to be glamorous, and they have very expensive mobile phones in these cars still.

Someone pointed out that Sammy Jo seems to drive the Pinto in an early season of Dynasty. When Steven is briefly racing cars in the early seasons of Dynasty, his race car is... The Cobra. Aaron Spelling must have been cheap and weird about cars. I wonder if they made Tori drive the Pinto too.

*Careening down a HILL not JILL, although that makes sense too.

R24 What is your diagnosis??

R23 I love the fact that the Pinto is in "Angels in Chains". That means, either the Angels drove from California to Louisiana, or they rented the exact same car once they got there.

R32 Yeah, a fun fact. I wonder what Aaron Spelling had to say about it. Louisiana also looks a whole lot like Southern California so... In any case the episode was freaking awesome and so was the iconic Pinto!

I love r28 and his wit!

R29 too!!

Cars were super important on The Avengers. too bad they weren't taken seriously on CA

Scroll down here to see images of the weirdly repainted peach Pinto I mentioned above.

Tiffany's car may have been lame in One Love Two angels, but at least they finally got the right look for her and she even gets in a bit of Farrah style hard nipples in that purple sweater.

The reason they had the girls drive the same cars year after year is so they wouldn’t have to reshoot exterior or wide shots. For instance the exterior shots outside the office where the girls cars were parked would have to be reshot with new cars and any stunt shots would also need to redone. It was cheaper to keep them in the same cars year after year.

Duh r16. Still lame for a top rated network TV show. Even season 4 finished in the top 20.

The 🍑 Pinto they forced Tiffany to ride in made me physically ill.

Tiffany deserved a Lincoln Mark VI, something from the designer series such as a Bill Blass or Givenchy

Let's try that designer Lincoln Mark VI link again.

Angels have smooth curves, not hard edges, R42 .

Tiffany was a low rent angel. She’s lucky we didn’t give her a bus 🚎 pass!

R45 that was Julie Rogers NOT Tiffany Welles!

R45, Given how poorly Tiffany clicked with Kris and Kelly and that later Charlie hired Julie, it would not have been a shock if at the end of the episode when they rescued that country girl from life as a porn star that they had put Tiff on the bus and let the corn prone bumpkin join the team.

What did Margo drive??

Margo the tranny (aka Paul Factor) drove a 1980 Navy Blue Lincoln Town Car.

Remember they rescued Kim Basinger from the whore farm from Season 1. And one of the finalists for Tiffany was Playboy's Claudia Jennings.

Shag- Kris.

Marry- Kelly.

Make CEO of your tech startup- Tiffany.

Tiffany was 109% class except for her shit-tastic car.

I don't know. As a kid, I thought the Cobra was the coolest car going.

That dingy denty pinto was no way to treat a “Charlie Girl”

According to this post, the peachy-beige Pinto got what it deserved.

Tiffany finally got a chance to drive a different car and her expense account from Charlie was so stingy she had no other choice than to rent another Pinto. Unless Tiffany was the frugal type. Maybe as she was quite WASPY and classy.

Nevertheless based on her experiences in her year working for the Townsend agency it's no wonder she headed back East. Besides having to deal with two colleagues fighting over a no good man they were both fucking and having to solve that case on her own, and the crappy Pinto, she also had to bust all on her own a white slavery ring and rescue herself from said ring, having her colleague's older sister pretty much snub and ignore her when visiting town, be left to float down a river with no attempt of rescue after losing a hand to hand combat fight with someone hunting her and her colleagues, and in general being treated with at best with half hearted attempts of friendship by Kelly and Kris. I hope Tiffany Welles found a happier life for herself back east with a better set of wheels to get around.

What's Beamish's ride? Broom or vacuum?

I think the budget they saved on brassieres should have gone to pimp up the cars.

Beamish did not have a driver’s license and was forced to use public transit.

Beamish had tit warts!

Poor assed Beamish. Tiffany was smart and glamorous. Jill was a glamorous race car driver... Kris had a top 40 record with a Brenda Russell penned track.

Beamish didn’t own a car and took the bus to the orphanage everyday so she could abuse Kelly.

Beamish played the nurse in John Travolta's "Boy in the Plastic Bubble"

Was Bosley family?

R62 did she abuse him?

Lee Meriwether drove a Pinto on “Barnaby Jones” too. At least it wasn’t a Maverick.

Lee Pussywether???

I hated Lee Pussywether from BJ. It was for old people.

I always felt Bosley (bottomsley) was under the thump of alpha top Charlie. And after they sent the fish 🐠 out for some dumbass convoluted caper the real show started!

Oh lord, r68.

The worst Tiffany episode for me is the one where she goes undercover with Kelly as hookers to find out why their mousy client is getting the crap beaten out of her (spoiler alert, she’s a whore too with DID, although anyone who watched Niki Smith on One Life to Live could see that plot twist coming).

Shelley’s street walker gait and mannerisms are ridiculous, she looks like she’s acting in a Junior League theater production of Hookers At The Point, while Jaclyn looks like Jackie Kennedy in heat seeking stretch pants. These two make no effort to blend in, spending most of their time hanging out with Bosley and Kris and trying to make the evil pimp think they’re real dirty high class whores.

Runner up-Kris goes to jail and is menaced by Divine’s stunt double, Big Aggie, and Vivian Alamain. Tiffany and Kelly go undercover as nuns. “HI! I’m Sister Tiffany,” says Shelly in a nuns habit and aviator sunglasses.

Because she was poor and laughed at.

Loved the Big Aggie episode. That and the one where the Angels are being hunted on an island were the only decent episodes of Season 4.

Big Aggie episode... SO MUCH TO LOVE AND GUSH ON. Big Aggie calls Kris "Chicken". She visits her cell at night and steals her make-up and it is implied her lesbian virginity. Chicken starts to shake and tremble under the pressure of Big Aggie. Lonnie (Sally Kirkland) is a tough assed lesbian with a streak of loyalty deep deep deep down inside of her. Big Aggie accuses Kris of trying to steal crazy Lonnie's make-up (god I can't imagine how shitty her pressed powder compact must have been in prison). Lonnie tries to go after Kris to beat the shit out of her but Kris out-wits her and manages to get her into the "prison swimming pool". Who knew women's prisons had pools??? Then Kris saves her life and now Lonnie is loyal to Kris's pussy for life!!!!

With all due respect R73, me dressing up in a nun's habit and aviator glasses to show how smart, chic and stylish I am was the highlight of the episode, not Kris, or Big Aggie, or Lonnie. I was the highlight. Me, Tiffany Welles.

Big Aggie scared the shit out of my 7 yr old, waspy, gay boy ass! I would tremble at the thought of a big 300 lb lesbian breaking into my bedroom!

Crazy Lonnie, this ain’t your trouble. I want the chicken!

Pics of Big Aggie and Sister Tiffany.

Sally Kirkland also appeared in Taxi Angels (which aired yesterday!). Girl couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag.

Sadly, this was a Julie episode, not a Tiffany.

To be fair, Tiffany would have been out of place on any of the Angel undercovers in Taxi Angels. I can't see her dispatching cabs and talking tough in the garage like Julie, driving a cab like Kelly, or working as a waitress on rollerskates like Kris.

they should have let Shelley Hack play Tiffany sort of aloof, that's when she really worked, they shouldn't have tried to make her a Kris 2.0

I really liked Tiffany's style and persona at the end of season 4 in 1980.

R65 how would anyone have known? Who could testify in court?

I’m obsessed with Shelley Hack and her role as Tiffany Welles. On today’s episode on Cozi tv, Toni’s boys, Tiff is undercover at a modeling agency where the manager just pulled a gun n her and is going to kidnap her.

Sitting around the house thinking about Tiffany!

Is it true that several of the scripts in season 4 had been written when Kate was on the show and they literally just changed character names around?

Because Debbie Gibson had the Mercury Bobcat.

I've been thinking about it (way too much) and think things would have been better if they'd gone with Chevrolet instead of Ford. Jill/Kris in a Corvette, Kelly in a Camaro, Bosley in a Caprice, and Sabrina/Tiffany/Julie in a Monza (hey, better that than a Chevette).

It’s odd that Ford wouldn’t have wanted to approach the producers in seasons 3 or 4 and offer to update the cars for free.

The show was still highly rated and Ford had redesigned the Mustang , Thunderbird and several other cars in their product line in 1979/80; you’d think they’d want to get those old cars off the show and showcase their new product.

Especially since the Angels were so identified with their cars in the early seasons.

It’s one thing to write someone off a show. It’s another thing entirely to put them in a Ford Pinto with their tendency to explode during even minor rear end collisions!

What type of a sick joke was this?

Happy Saturday

When Tiffany moved to Boston to escape the awful Patrick Duffuckery fallout, she upgraded...to a Datsun!

I just watched Tiffany Welles in a speed boat shoot her gun.