Amazon is the New Craigslist Seriously, the Chinese have Ruined Amazon!

I once ordered some shoes that smelled so bad like toxic chemicals that I had to throw them away.

OP, you're a racist Russian Boris! Trololololololololol!

OP= Donald Trump.

R2 R3 schizophrenics

It's true OP.

But let Amazon know your experience.

At least Amazon is hassle free for returns.

WHAT?! Fuck you r1/r3 I'm talking about the onslaught of Chinese-made and sold goods on Amazon, you piece of shit-smudged toilet paper.

Sorry, you've been stinking up the threads on the multiple murders at the massage parlors with constant screams about how it's really the BLACKS who are killing Asians, it seems to really bother you that a white incel fuckboy is guilty of the mass murder.

So you'll excuse me if I don't think your post here about Chinese products sold on Amazon was made in good faith.

OP, I didn't know about Fakespot and just added it to my browser.

THANK YOU

I’ve been returning at least half of the stuff I purchase because of poor quality. I don’t trust the reviews anymore. BUT Amazon customer service is wonderful and I’ve never had a problem getting a refund.

But doesn't it bother you to waste so much time returning poor-quality products? Their customer service isn't really wonderful if they're consistently selling you shoddy goods.

There's a reason why Amazon and dodgy Chinese companies get along so well - they're birds of a feather.

I’ve had 3 purchases off Amazon where the item was a miniature version of what I wanted.

OP, simply make sure that your item is “Sold by Amazon.com”. Control-F. If you can’t find that phrase on the page, don’t buy it.

That’s your responsibility.

Check your "order history" periodically for unauthorized purchases charged to your account, and beware of Amazon's customer service remedies in resetting passwords.

Chinese, dirty knees, look at these! 😈

Beware of Amazon's vaunted "customer service" They will happily take your returns and issue refunds...until they wont. Too many returns will get you banned.

R14 = Donald Trump

Amazon has ruined so many legit companies and small businesses that make legit products. It's time you avoid this huge worldwide conglomerate whenever you can and order directly from the supplier or manufacturer. Next time go to the UnderArmour site and order from them. We're supporting a "middleman" that's ripping us off and ruining global trade.

Fucking AMERICAN company ripping off hard working Americans just to make its CEO richer.

UnderArmour is a fucking nightmare. They keep sending me emails even though I have unsubscribed. I've called them multiple times to tell them to get my email address off their list and still the emails keep coming.

Bezos grew concerned when Alibaba made noise about entering the US market, and threw the Amazon doors open to Chinese and Russian vendors, who have flooded Amazon with cheap knockoffs, poorly made imitations and outright counterfeits. R17 hits the nail on the head. We all hated Walmart when they destroyed main street, and now we're seeing Amazon do the same thing writ large but no one cares.

Almost every company and legitimate seller on Amazon also has their own website and/or sells directly to stores. If you want authentic quality name-brand merchandise, buy it there.

What do Amazon and Walmart have in common?

They both are vendors of questionable quality crap from sketchy foreign factories, treat their employees like shit, and have a devoted client base who are happy to ignore the first two commonalities.

The Wish and AliExpress sellers have also invaded Etsy.

Etsy has gone to shit.

I agree about Etsy, I used to find some unique Christmas gifts. Now it’s mass made t-shirts and coffee mugs and other crap.

For clothing at least, Amazon will sell any piece of shit that somebody will buy. Buy your clothes from legit department stores. They keep an eye on their supply chain.

I bought some high-end tee shirts from Amazon. When they arrived, they were clearly low-quality knock-offs. Amazon took the return, but when I put in a bad review, they cancelled the review and banned me from submitting another another one because I had used the "F-word".

Amazon has been like this for a very long time . The stuff that comes from China is usually counterfeit or misrepresented in quality.

I'd rather order from other smaller (better) stores but shipping always seems to be really high.

Sad but true

The problem is how Amazon stocks their fulfilment centres. Say Amazon is selling a product, and then two different storefronts on Amazon stock the same product, but both fulfil their orders through Amazon. The latter two send their stock to Amazon to store in their fulfilment centre, where Amazon stores it with their own stock of the product. But they don't segregate it.

What this means is that if you order that product from Amazon, you could well be sent an item that was sent in to Amazon from one of the storefronts. And increasingly, these items are low quality fakes. By the time Amazon realise, and take action, whoever started the storefront is long gone, along with the money. And because it's not segregated, it means it's harder to track down which storefront sent the shitty products in in the first place.

Damn! This would explain why I got a set of shitty Hanes shirts. I guess I'm buying straight from the brand then.

A lot of fake products and reviews on Amazon. I shop Target and Walmart online more.

Can we start a list of the good places to shop online? I recently bought some really nice masks from Tom Bihn.

It’s gotten to the point where I have to keep a web browser open when buying on Amazon, because I’ve inadvertently purchased too much Chinese made shit that doesn’t work.

China is perfectly capable of manufacturing high quality, reasonably priced and sophisticated goods and has been for more than a generation.

The reason China sells cheap crap is because that's what our suppliers like Amazon and Walmart contracts them to supply.

Plus.we the consumer demanded cheap stuff and we made China Great Again by insisting on the deindustrialization of huge swaths of our own economy and sending our factories offshore along with our jobs.

The vendors allowing their brands to be sold on Amazon or in Walmart want bigger profits and products must be made as cheaply as possible.

Name brands have always internationally unloaded their dud products to Walmart and Amazon .

How many times have you heard my Levi jeans only cost $19.99 at Walmart and you paid $65. at some department store.

That's because the Levis sold at Walmart aren't the same as the ones sold at Macy's.

Same as the complaint above about UnderArmour and other products - its made specifically for Amazon or some big box dumping ground.

[quote]It’s gotten to the point where I have to keep a web browser open when buying on Amazon,

"I have to keep a web browser open when buying " Could you explain what you mean by that?

You can always tell the OP/r4/ r10 , etc. is a right-wing propaganda-peddling Boris when he calls you a”schizophrenic.”

After learning that term from liberal educators on DL, it’s become his go-to comeback to anyone who questions him, just before he resorts to calling you a “worthless faggot.”

He hates Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos for being a rich and powerful liberal who donates to progressive causes. He was happy to be a useful pawn to Ex-President Toaddick McDaughterfucker, trying to extort Amazon for postal charges and handicap Amazon for Republican crony competitors like DeJoy.

As ever, the gullible OP easily mistakes McDaughterfucker’s constant scapegoating of China for the American worker’s problems, without an ounce of accountability for commercial predators like McDaughterfucker. Any lip service, impotent symbol or counter-productive trade war convinces the OP, like a good, little pawn.

But the OP would never punish McDaughterfucker for enacting the Tax Cuts and Jobs law, which protected foreign havens for evading taxes and slashed taxes for companies who outsource their manufacturing and jobs to foreign countries. The fact that McDaughterfucker’s threats and tariffs on China were followed by sweetheart deals to let Ivanka manufacture for her several companies based in China never bothered the OP.

Maybe the OP should just die in a grease fire?

First they ruined eBay. Now Amazon.

R36 Oh yes, the oh-so-progressive Jeff Bezos who's going OTT to stop his workers unionising.

R36 Go fuck yourself. No one cares.

The subject of this thread is a good one, an important topic to discuss.

I bought my tits on Amazon and my a$$ on eBay

When the price increased on a product I buy for my dog on Amazon I went directly to the company and got it for the price I was used to paying. There was a snafu and I didn't get notification from them so I called. They refunded the purchase price even though I just called to get a tracking number. Told them how much their product was selling on Amazon and they told me it was "unauthorized sellers." Looks like those "unauthorized sellers" are not selling that product on Amazon now.

Yes! I was talking to a friend about this months ago, after I got some poor quality items. I was saying that I couldn't trust the reviews any more and that it's hard to know if I'm buying something good quality or not. Amazon does need to get a handle on their fake reviews and maybe consider taking a bunch of the floods of cheap Chinese crap off it or making it easier to tell the difference.

“Rich and powerful liberal“ is an oxymoron. The moment you gain wealth and power, you cease to be a liberal. Period.

I try to always make sure the product I'm buying from Amazon is sold directly from Amazon, but I'm still worried about the quality since they've made it clear they don't really care. I use Review Meta to check the validity of the product reviews, but the guy who created it recently sold it and seems to avoid saying who he sold it to, so it's probably going to be useless.

R36 is your penis so small that you have to make comments like that?

I ordered a $70 filing cabinet from Amazon because it looked like a quality product with a wood grain finish.

Required assembly. I was a bit excited for that part because when was the last time I had to assemble something? Felt vintage.

It is currently sitting across the room 93% assembled because the last *cheap* sections don’t fit together neatly. I looked the product assembly video and the instructions. The instructions had pieces mislabeled but I followed the video correctly. It’s just shit product.

Although I’m glad to hear the return should be seamless. I’ve been dreading the thought of disassembly for a return. But for $70 fucking dollars, I should’ve just dumpster dived Craigslist!

I ordered a bookshelf for my mom that cost over 200 dollars, and afterward, I saw it was from China and I immediately thought well, that's gonna be a big return but shockingly it was just as they described it, and really nice but then I was reading the comments and apparently, I got lucky because some either didn't get what they ordered, or it was busted when they opened the box.

eBay, Amazon and etsy too are full of knockoff crap and unauthorized sellers. It's a mine field, shoppers.

What bothers me is I can’t buy just one item anymore. If it’s under $50, I need to buy two, three, six .... I just want one. I don’t have the space for storing extra shit.

[Bold] r36 = One Post Troll. Put her on ignore and see.

I know this is coming from my older 50's self, but I've gotten into the habit during the pandemic of doing more ordering online of things through Amazon. I have to say that doing the clothes-shopping thing online hasn't produced the best results for me. I've run into some of the situations that OP describes. Maybe it's just that I need to become savvier at picking out and ordering the better-quality merchandise. Or that I should go with my gut instinct and keep on believing that there's not a substitute when shopping for clothing to doing it in-store and checking out the fabrics, colors, sizes and overall quality (i.e., what less of it is left nowadays) in person.

Amazon pisses me off because when I search for an item by brand name it shows me 5000 items that are not that brand, often not even the type of item and the sidebar of brand options to click are all bizarre obviously Chinese brand names. So, Amazon is in on it intentionally.

Yep, I don't shop at Amazon anymore.

Here’s my problem with Amazon. If you’re looking to buy a thing, there aren’t brick and mortar stores where you can just go grab one. “Just order it from Amazon!” If you need it that afternoon, tough shit.

R54, Interestingly one of Amazon's latest ventures is "Just Walk Out" brick and mortar stores where you have a QR code scanned at the beginning, walk around, pick up your stuff and then leave without even manually scanning any of your products. No cashiers - cameras and shelf sensors monitor what you're putting in your bag and you're billed after you leave.

No idea if it'll take off and it seems to be mainly food right now.

Always inspect all goods immediately on delivery and report any problems immediately. Be prompt.

Yes, you have to check to see where the item is shipping from. I rarely use Amazon now.

It seems the OP has an agenda to disparage Asians.

How does the OP know with certainty that the fake review bots are from China?

And if he's so concerned about "Chinese fake resellers" obtaining his information (I guess he's very important in society), then why does he continue to use Amazon?

Fuck off, R58. Must you ruin every single thread with your woke Asian bullshit?

I've heard there are these things called 'stores' where you can actually see and touch what you want to buy and that an actual person will be there- in person- to help you. This may be just a rumor though

Yes. It's one of my main reasons for not using Amazon

Don't buy from third-party sellers, OP. Simple AF.

Exactly what r52 said. Amazon has gotten ridiculous with it. I can't search for anything there anymore without the results being page after page of weirdly named, cheap, made in China crap with the same photo in the listing.

You can never be sure what you'll get when you order from Amazon. Which is why I order everything I can from somewhere else. Target, Ulta, Barnes & Noble...none of them will ship you pirated garbage.

You need to stop buying from Amazon.

Racist troll or not, OP is expressing a long-held sentiment that I've experienced many times. I also wouldn't go so far as to say it's solely Asian countries. Amazon has been mismanaged for years and engaged in long-term negligence that has rendered it unusable. I do some work in consumer protection and Amazon is always a culprit in these types of matters. It's not a good company, that really is all that can be said. Like others have said, they simply don't police their stock to prevent fakes and they also don't monitor the reviews to make sure they're legit.

I regularly buy those weirdly named items made in China, shipped by Amazon, because you can always return it. I've had a problem with maybe 5% of them. That's it.

Kitchen stuff, pet supplies, furniture, tech stuff, cleaning stuff (gloves, etc.), office products, etc. Very few problems.

I recently bought masks on Amazon that said they were made in the USA. Well, the little slip that was in the box was not in English.

I don't think it's "anti-Asian" to suggest that Chinese companies sell cheap goods. They're simply doing what any company anywhere in the world would do if they could, which is to maximize their profit by reducing costs. If someone will buy those cheap goods (like your typical Walmart/Amazon customer), they're playing the game correctly.

I think the worst you could say about the Chinese is that they're a little more cynical than most.

Too bad R59 can't just politely answer the questions in R58.

China is bad news.

China basically owns the world. Have you seen their shipping ports? How many items do we own that came from China? 90% ?

I don't think the average American realizes just how significantly China has grown an over taken the American middle class.

Bill Maher nails it. Here’s his China rant on his Real Time show on 3/12/21. He’s not wrong.

Wrong R71. Amazon and Walmart own the world because they are willing to buy cheap shit to sell to their customers. There was a good article years ago how Walmart bullies its vendors into selling their items to Walmart for huge discounts. If the company didn't agree Walmart would cancel the order.

Amazon's newest bullshit - I ordered a bunch of gardening stuff, stuff I couldn't conveniently find elsewhere for delivery. Most of the items show as shipped AND NOW amazon allows sellers to ship with no tracking. Just throw that shit in the mail and hope for the best. Or, say you did anyway.

It's always a mixed bag with Amazon, so I agree somewhat. I've had some similar experiences with clothing. It sucks. At least returns are very easy.

I think it's overall website/user interface is pretty terrible for something so many people use so much.

agreed r75, I don't understand the shitty search function options. Ebays is fantastic and they likely have as many sales and sellers as amazon.

Completely agree OP. It seems like they have completely abandoned any standards. Maybe this is the post-Bezos era where it’s run by corporate drones who will do anything to keep raising profits year after year after year - and ont give a crap about “reputation”. Bezos built it - now it can slowly fall apart. Like every other brand.

I get my vitamins and supplements from them. I just went to the monthly plan while I research where I can get everything. I realize it is not going to be all at one place.

[quote] There was a good article years ago how Walmart bullies its [sic] vendors into selling their items to Walmart for huge discounts. If the company didn't agree Walmart would cancel the order.

As opposed to all those companies that happily overpay their suppliers?

All you have to do is look up videos of 🍗 near cities. The US infrastructure doesn't have any thing close to that.

People laughed at Chairman Mao for encouraging his countrymen to have kids, but he was right. A huge population will never be cconquered. Look at everything they're doing. They will be the light of the 21st century.

It autocorrected a Chinese to chicken 🍗 ^

R80, except for all the people who starved to death because China's huge population couldn't feed itself due to all the wonderful caring socialism. Of course, China also had government enforced abortions, so that fixed that problem.

on the OLD Craigslist I scored some hot dick encounters.

Amazon can't even deliver a decent dildo.

R79

Other companies aren't exactly generous but Wal-Mart turned squeezing suppliers into an art form.

It almost single-handedly bankrupted Rubbermaid. The business model involves getting suppliers to provide product at ridiculously low cost, which is fine as long as the suppliers' costs remain the same since selling an incredible amount of product to Wal-Mart, even at a low price, is profitable due to scale.

But if suppliers' costs go up, Wal-Mart will not consider paying more. It doesn't matter if costs increasing means the supplier will go out of business. So, the supplier is now in a position where, if they walk away from the Wal-Mart contract, they'll go bankrupt, and, if they sell at a loss to Wal-Mart, they'll go bankrupt. Wal-Mart (and, I assume, Amazon) is engaging in an unusually brutal form of capitalism that leaves good companies in ruins.

Also, suppliers, not being completely stupid, intentionally sell shitty product to Wal-Mart. The one time I shopped there, I bought Duracell batteries, and the unused batteries were completely dead within six months. Those "deals" mean the consumer is paying more in the long run.

That's why I haven't bought anything from Amazon for a long time, number one, Jeff bezos treats robots better than his employees and he's a cheap cunt who barely donates any money to anything.

Try not to support that asshole. He doesn't need your money, buy from under armour website. Go directly to store's website. Buy from your local store. All that packaging is bad for the environment.

WalMart deserves more credit than any other company for forcing the outsourcing of all production to China. As with every successful capitalist, they put the moral onus on someone else to be the bad guy. The families sit back and earn hundreds of millions every year by just sitting on their ass. But yeah, capitalism rewards the deserving, right? Time to reject capitalism.

I thought companies are moving their factories away from China since covid? I know japan is...they are relying too much on china, esp medical supplies.

If the US was strategic and had the ability to sacrifice for the the future good, we would be doing what Japan is doing. But we only care about making a buck tomorrow. And the guys who are making the money today don’t want anything to change. So in the next Covid pandemic, we will once again have no PPE and life supply chains will be screwed. We don’t learn - we just let the rich get richer,

[quote] But if suppliers' costs go up, Wal-Mart will not consider paying more.

Well, companies that can't manufacture a product for a price that their customers are willing to pay should go bankrupt, shouldn't they? Or, should we just treat every company like GM - watch them create a shitty product that no one wants to buy, and then when they go belly up, throw a couple of trillion tax dollars at them?

Have you thought about the long-term consequences of your economic theories? Saving GM bought Obama a lot of votes with other people's money, but in the long term, it was very destructive to the U.S. economy. The reason we are in financial crisis right now is because every large company just assumes they'll get a bailout when they screw up.

A trick on Amazon is to change the comment 'sort' to Recent. That shows the more real comments first, instead of the fake 5-star comments initially put in to increase the rating.

I can’t believe supermarkets in nyc can no longer use plastic bags due to environmental concerns, but Amazon can drive their fleet of trucks through the city to deliver to individual door steps. On top of that, the amount of wasteful packaging is ridiculous.

Do people really buy their clothes on Amazon? I find that more shocking than the reported bad quality.

R88 - I'm the OP, Can you explain more about "what Japan is doing"? Have they initiated legislation limiting imports? I'm curious. I would also make some sacrifices if we could get some laws that would encourage more people to buy American-made products, but also encourage more manufacturing to come back to the United States.

I'm not in the process of re-learning how to not shop on Amazon. And, it's hard. I had no idea how accustomed to it I'd become. From clothes detergent to socks to tools and basic items. I've really used the hell out of that Prime membership. But, I've also grown more outraged by all the packaging, and how much garbage I'm contributing by ordering this stuff. Amazon used to encourage you to save items to ship together. They don't do that anymore. You have have five or ten items in an order and, you'll get three one day, one the next day, two the next day, one the next day, etc., etc. And they're often in oversized boxes with yards of brown packing paper. I'm really ashamed of how much junk I've bought from them, and how much more junk I've contributed to landfill and over-burdened recycling center.