Funny That Matt Damon and Ben Affleck Never Wrote Another Screenplay...
After winning an Oscar for one? I know they supposedly writing one together, but I always found this deeply suspicious. The rumours about a ghost writer may have been partly to undermine their Oscar changes, but I think there was truth to it.
Does anybody know anything more about this?
by Anonymous | reply 39 | April 20, 2021 2:33 PM
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No but their Oscar acceptance speech is my favorite.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 18, 2021 10:39 PM
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I don't doubt they did the original script. How much it was doctored we'll never know. But I think its easy enough to understand why they've never written another script - they wrote it to give themselves jobs as actors. They are actors, not writers. While both have shown interest in the process, its only Affleck who wanted to direct. So, what would they write about now? I think they know how privileged they are after a couple of decades in this business.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 18, 2021 10:40 PM
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R3 I can't right now but it's on you tube.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 18, 2021 10:49 PM
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They wrote Ridley Scott's next picture, The Last Duel, along with Nicole Holofcener. It's an adaptation though.
R3, here's their Oscar acceptance speech.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 5 | March 18, 2021 10:50 PM
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The whole idea of a gifted janitor who solves an impossible math problem left on the blackboard is an old urban legend. Fucking hacky as hell. Their treatment of black producer, Effie, made me hate them. I keep waiting for that to come up and cancel them. If they have any self awareness they are too.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 18, 2021 10:53 PM
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I love it when they thank me! They knew where their bread was buttered.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 18, 2021 11:02 PM
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[quote]Their treatment of black producer, Effie, made me hate them.
She should have understood that Deena had the better look and sound. Nobody was going to buy the records of a sweaty fat girl who screamed every note.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 18, 2021 11:04 PM
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I also heard that they only got a B- on the screenplay in the class for which they wrote it (which seems about right to me), but that may be an urban legend too.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 18, 2021 11:30 PM
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That was adorable r5 thank you. Boo to you r1
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 18, 2021 11:34 PM
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William Goldman altered their original script substantially , is what they say
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 18, 2021 11:36 PM
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[quote]William Goldman altered their original script substantially , is what they say
First thing the old fart did was delete all their sex scenes. It was a pretty intense "bro" movie until Goldman got his inky fingers on it.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 18, 2021 11:39 PM
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Matt co-wrote two other Gus Van Sant movies — Promised Land, with John Krasinski, and Gerry, with Van Sant and Casey Affleck. Though for the latter movie I imagine they just got credit for improvising out in the desert.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 18, 2021 11:44 PM
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Affleck, meanwhile, has screenplay credits on three of the four films he’s directed: Gone Baby Gone, The Town, and Live by Night (he was the sole credited writer on the last).
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 18, 2021 11:52 PM
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Uh, because they didn't write the script you saw shot for Good Will Hunting. They stupidly admitted it in an interview in, either Vanity Fair or Interview magazine, before they were nominated for the Academy Award.
I remember reading in the interview how they were laughing and gloating about how great it was that they didn't even have to do the real work in writing the script. They stated that they were given heavy, "notes," from William Goldwyn and all they had to do was do exactly what he told them to.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 18, 2021 11:59 PM
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That Oscar speech was when they were so pure, so innocent. Not like the jaded washed up drunks they are now.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 19, 2021 12:06 AM
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They wrote something they wanted to also act in and leverage the script to make sure of casting. I don't think either ever intended to be a writer. Actors have to write and produce all the time now because corporate Hollywood would be happy to just use animated Marvel "actors" and do away with the creative human element completely.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 19, 2021 1:14 AM
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Ghost writer? Ridiculous, OP.
Consider the evidence from an early interview:
BEN: Me write it. Me an' him.
MATT: Right. I and he. (Blows kiss at Ben.)
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 19, 2021 2:50 AM
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" Nobody knows anything."
R.I.P., William Goldman
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 19, 2021 2:54 AM
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Life takes it's toll, like with the rest of us.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 19, 2021 7:31 AM
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it wasn't ghostwritten as much as they benefitted from enormous direction in the writing.
The difference between some dude at a laptop working outside the industry and guys like that (young, attractive, up and coming actors with lots of industry relationships) is that they got tons and tons and tons of notes, suggestions, etc. From friends AND the production company, executives, etc. It's not that complicated of a movie. Notes taken the wrong way can destroy a script. But with the right filter, and it could have been one of them or a good producer/executive, you just keep adding good stuff.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 19, 2021 7:39 AM
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R23 that makes a lot of sense. They basically had their hands held through rewrites.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 25, 2021 10:48 AM
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Boston Irish trash porn, and neither are really Irish.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | April 3, 2021 4:42 PM
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The rumpled, savior-therapist was right out of Ordinary People.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | April 3, 2021 5:01 PM
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Did they write the one about the zoo?
by Anonymous | reply 27 | April 3, 2021 5:19 PM
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I've always wondered how much of GWH they wrote. I think it's a great film nevertheless. Ben cannot act for shit and still can't. Matt is a good actor though. Robin stole the show in the movie.
Neither Ben or Matt are convincing as white trash Bostonites. They are rich preppy Protestant boys and neither from Boston.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | April 18, 2021 6:41 PM
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Matt Damon probably did all the actual work and wasn’t interested in doing that again. Ben Affleck seems pretty stupid to me.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | April 18, 2021 6:43 PM
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R28 They both grew up in Cambridge across the Charles River from Boston. It would be part of Boston in any other city in America. Both went to the Cambridge public schools - in a city with about a dozen private schools - and both graduated from Rindge and Latin, the city's only public high school.
Matt even picked his teeth with his finger (or is he biting his nails?) as a senior at Rindge and Latin. His parents were divorced and hardly wealthy. Affleck's mother was an elementary school teacher and his father Timothy was an aspiring playwright who was "mostly unemployed." He worked sporadically as a carpenter, auto mechanic, bookie, electrician, bartender, and janitor at Harvard. In the mid-1960s, he had been an actor and stage manager with the Theater Company of Boston. During Affleck's childhood, his father had a self-described "severe, chronic problem with alcoholism." The apple didn't fall far from the tree as Ben seems to have inherited both his father's writing and drinking skills.
There are plenty of rich Protestant preppies in Cambridge. Affleck and Damon were hardly two more of them.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 30 | April 18, 2021 7:33 PM
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Neither of them were rich, R28. Matt's mother was a single parent who was a teacher. Affleck was middle class, not upper middle, I believe.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | April 18, 2021 7:34 PM
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Damon's mother was not a "teacher", she was a professor at Lesley College (now Lesley University), which is next door to Harvard, in Cambridge. She's the author of several books. Probably not rich, but not working-class. Cambridge Ringe and Latin is one of the highest rated public schools in Massachusetts, it gets an A+ overall rating.
[quote]They both grew up in Cambridge across the Charles River from Boston. It would be part of Boston in any other city in America.
I don't know what this means. There are a lot of cities across rivers or next to each other, that are different cities -- Oakland and San Fransciso.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | April 18, 2021 10:15 PM
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It was probably kind of like Penny Sycamore in "You Can't Take It With You". One day a typewriter was delivered to the house by mistake, so she decided to take up playwrighting.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | April 18, 2021 11:00 PM
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The premise of that movie is so stupid I have no idea what is so great about it
by Anonymous | reply 34 | April 19, 2021 12:46 AM
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[quote] I don't know what this means. There are a lot of cities across rivers or next to each other, that are different cities -- Oakland and San Fransciso.
Umm... there's a difference between a river and a bay. Most cities with a different city across the river are on the edge of their state lines. DC, and Arlington for example. (Though Arlington was originally supposed to be part of DC.) New York and Jersey City and Bayonne, Philadelphia and Camden, NJ, St. Louis and East St. Louis, Detroit and Windsor, Ontario, Canada. Etc.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | April 19, 2021 4:04 PM
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Minneapolis and St. Paul would like to tell you R35, that it’s not that uncommon.
🙄
by Anonymous | reply 36 | April 19, 2021 4:21 PM
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[quote] DC, and Arlington for example. (Though Arlington was originally supposed to be part of DC.) New York and Jersey City and Bayonne, Philadelphia and Camden, NJ, St. Louis and East St. Louis, Detroit and Windsor, Ontario, Canada. Etc.
Camden is nothing like Philly. Detroit is nothing like any part of Canada. The only similar Jersey City has to NYC is a lot of NYers moved there in recent generations. I get what you're trying to say about major metropolitan areas but a lot of cities themselves are insular. If you are from Westchester County or North Jersey, you still aren't considered a true New Yorker. I don't see why it should be different with Boston. And usually you can tell a broad Massachusetts accent from a thick Boston accent.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | April 19, 2021 4:27 PM
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However distinct Cambridge is or isn’t from Boston... surely it’s close enough for them to have grown up familiar with the culture, the accent etc. It’s not like they were from Miami or Seattle and had only heard Boston accents on TV.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | April 20, 2021 6:56 AM
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Ben Affleck got really lucky. He was in a lot of critical failures in the 2000s (Daredevil, Gigli, Pearl Harbor, et. cetera). He has no charisma nor acting talent. Yet he still gets cast and even got a big role playing Batman. Now he's a director. Casey, his brother, is a douchebag with a grating voice but is a much better actor than Ben. Ben's longevity must have been due to his friendship with Matt Damon and also Kevin Smith, Harvey Weinstein, Gus Van Sant and Richard Linklater because it wasn't his talent or his bland looks.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | April 20, 2021 2:33 PM
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