Oscar Nominations

Best Picture

The Trial of the Chicago 7

The Father

Minari

Nomadland

Mank

Promising Young Woman

Judas And The Black Messiah

Sound of Metal

Best Actor

Chadwick Boseman – Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom

Riz Ahmed – Sound of Metal

Anthony Hopkins – The Father

Gary Oldman – Mank

Steven Yeun – Minari

Best Actress

Carey Mulligan – Promising Young Woman

Frances McDormand – Nomadland

Viola Davis – Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom

Andra Day – The United States vs Billie Holliday

Vanessa Kirby – Pieces of A Woman

Best Supporting Actress

Maria Bakalova – Borat: Subsequent Moviefilm

Glenn Close – Hillbilly Elegy

Amanda Seyfried – Mank

Olivia Colman – The Father

Yuh Jung-Youn – Minari

Best Supporting Actor

Daniel Kaluuya – Judas And The Black Messiah

Sacha Baron Cohen – The Trial of The Chicago 7

Leslie Odom Jr. – One Night In Miami

Paul Raci – The Sound of Metal

Lakeith Stanfield – Judas And The Black Messiah

Full list here:

Fucking Borat? That vulgar, lowbrow trash shouldn't even be considered for nomination much less actually chosen.

Surprised Glenn was nominated, delighted for Amanda. Guess it wasn't Michelle Pfeiffer's year to make an Oscar comeback.

The Andra Day nomination is a joke.

I saw Sound of Metal a few days ago and I didn't think it was that great.

With her fourth nomination, Viola Davis has broken the record for the most number of overall acting nominations for a Black actress in Hollywood history — and became the only Black woman with two Best Actress nominations.

Glenn Cole was nominated for a Razzie and a Oscar for the same performance.

Should make for an exciting show, lol.

The Golden Globe win for Andra Day really helped catapult her in the Oscar voting.

I love Glenn but after all of the great performances she’s given and been nominated for I really hope she doesn’t get the award for this piece of crap. I really loved Olivia in The Father.

Glenn Close and Diane Warren - forever bridesmaids

Thrilled the Eurovision song got nominated.

Steven Yeun becomes the first Asian to be nominated for Best Actor.

R13 Well, why didn't that work for me? I'm going to be bitching out Netflix right now.

Congratulations, O

This is Glenn's 8th nomination. If she loses she will tie with Peter O'Toole for having the most Oscar nominations without a win.

I think the only other performance nominated for both an Oscar and Razzie is Amy Irving in Yentl.

Out of all these movies, the only one I saw was Tenet.

I'd heard of 3 others, but I must be otherwise completely disconnected from popular culture.

r18 Jesus, enough already

[quote]Steven Yeun becomes the first Asian to be nominated for Best Actor.

Technically Riz Ahmed becomes the first Asian to be nominated for Best Actor, seeing as his name was read out first.

Ummmm... bitches?

The Oscars aren't really about popular culture r21, it's supposed to be about the best films, not the most popular ones.

[quote]Glenn Cole was nominated for a Razzie and a Oscar for the same performance.

The twilight of her career just goes from strength to strength, doesn't it?

Steven Yuen is the first ASIAN AMERICAN actor nominated for Best Actor.

Ben Kingsley and Riz Ahmed are both Anglo-Asian.

Ben Kingsley and Riz Ahmed are English, so Stephen Yeun is being touted as the first Asian-American nominated for Best Actor.

[QUOTE] I think the only other performance nominated for both an Oscar and Razzie is Amy Irving in Yentl.

James Coco, Best (and Worst) Supporting Actor, Only When I Laugh

Arguably Yul Brynner would have been the first Asian actor, born in Vladitvostok

Per the LA Times, Riz is the first Muslim nominated for Best Actor.

You can also make a distinction between South Asian (Ben and Riz), and East Asian in which Young stands alone.

They're still nominating Yul Brynner? W the actual F?

So if she's supporting, does Glenn wear silver lame this year?

Ma Rainey flopped while Judas did better than expected. Rooting for Another Round; glad Vinterberg pushed out Sorkin. Wish Mads had gotten in over Oldman.

LaKeith is the lead in Judas though, isn’t he?

No Jodie? No surprise, she's an out lesbian now...

I guess that manufactured buzz for Pete as best actor was just a fizz.

He didn't even get a Globe nomination r38.

Netflix: 35 Oscar nominations

Yet the front runner is Hulu release Nomadland r40. Hulu beat Netflix to best drama at emmys with The Handmaid's Tale and will probably beat them to Best Picture at the Oscars.

Yes was very surprised that both Lakeith and Daniel were both supporting in Judas, arguably both are leads. Jesse Plemmons was the supporting role in that movie.

if there was any year to go back down to five best picture nominees, this would probably be it.

Nomadland is a Searchlight release which got an early release on fellow Disney property Hulu.

Have we heard from Jada yet?

Also don't be surprised if Mank wins in the end; if there's one thing Hollywood loves, it's itself.

Kaluuya I would call supporting, but Lakeith was the lead of the movie. Also Kaluuya is deserving but I was not impressed with Lakeith in that movie.

Is thus the worst set of noms in Oscar history? No one is going to watch the ceremony

Thus was a very weird year in which the vast majority of people never went to a movie theater r48 and many fewer movies were released. What do you expect?

People not thrilled with the Judas supporting category shenanigans

Mank did not get a screenplay nod, which in an ordinary year would be the death knell

However if there was ever a year the rules don't apply, this is it

I knew as soon as I read them that people on Twitter would be pissed about Regina king didn’t get nominated for best director. Didn’t the academy know that if a black woman in eligible for an award she MUST be nominated over a white woman, no questions asked.

But extremely curious that a rare movie about the art of screenwriting was snubbed the screenwriters

R50 Well with all the Asians nominated, blacks can't complain about diversity so this is the next available thing

Brad pitt is one of the executive producer of Minari.

Mank also did not get the important Editing Nomination..

Can we get #OscarsSoStraight trending now

What the hell is “The Father”

I need to start watching these

[quote]LaKeith is the lead in Judas though, isn’t he?

As is Kaluuya. Perharps the voters were thinking Jesse Plemons for lead?

R52 Thankfully, the director's branch didn't cave into that. She did a serviceable job but shouldn't be awarded a nomination for it.

I bet poor Glenn is gonna lose to Amanda Seyfried.

Interesting that Trent Reznor is nominated for scoring both Mank and Soul.

Mank isn’t winning anything, much less best picture.

The Academy really needs to start doing something about the category fraud. Two lead actors from the same film are nominated in supporting. That's not fair to actual supporting performances.

(But, hey, it kept out Jared Leto. Maybe not too much of a bad thing.)

I have heard Soul is actually pretty good, and suspect probably better than some of the best picture nominees.

R45 I will be holding my press conference at noon to discuss the latest OsKKKar nominations.

Soul was excellent.

You can really tell that all the good movies were postponed because of COVID and that it was slim pickings this year. Borat 2 nominated for 2 awards? You've got to be kidding me.

I worked on a nominated film . My 6th.

[quote]As is Kaluuya. Perharps the voters were thinking Jesse Plemons for lead?

It's how the studio or their teams put them up. Kaluuya has always been in Supporting and I agree with that position. Much of the movie is about Bill O'Neal versus Chairman Fred. Lakeith is arguably the lead - especially since in the second act we barely see Chairman Fred as he's in jail. But putting LaKeith in Supporting for Oscars was the usual category fraud in order to help his chances.

And Chloe Zhao becomes the first female Chinese director nominated.

I have not worked on any nominated films ever, but the ones that I do are blockbusters. I have 2 coming out on the HBO Max 2021 releases.

What kind of pithy old Queen doesn’t like Borat’s fine ass or the magic of his daughter, hell yeah she deserves this nomination. How wonderful!!! It’s about time comedy gold wins another Oscar.

R64 I wonder what their logic was. Putting a lead in Supporting is usually done to give both actors a chance like when Heath Ledger was put in Leading and Jake Gyllenhaal in Supporting for Brokeback. This makes no sense.

Borat was pretty great—Maria Bakalova completely deserved her nomination. She would have been nominated any year, I think.

Glenn will win an Oscar and a Razzie in the same year for the same film.

Chloe Zhao is the first non-white woman to be nominated in director period r71.

Kinda want Andra Day to win. But if the Oscars keep true to form, they’ll give it to someone whom they feel put in their dues acting, not a newcomer like her.

Here are my predictions, cause the Oscars are pretty easy to predict this year:

Best Picture: Nomadland; Best Director: Chloé Zhao; Best Actor: Chadwick Boseman (only the third posthumous acting winner in the Academy's history, and the 2nd Best Actor posthumous winner); Best Actress: Carey Mulligan (I think Frances McDormand was a shoe-in until the buzz started around Mulligan's performance) - McDormand will win an Oscar as a Producer for Nomadland; Best Supporting Actor: Daniel Kaluuya; Best Supporting Actress: Amanda Seifreyd (I think... this is the one category where I'm not sure)

I’m a Viola fan but that performance was not worthy of a nomination. Chadwick will win but Riz deserves it.

Make sure some poc win or Jada will have to have a special angry closeted lesbian red table session.

Just give Glenn Close the damn award already. This time must be the one.

[quote] I wonder what their logic was.

Lead Actor was stacked this year— Lindo, Mikkelsen, and Tahar Rahim could’ve got noms. Supporting Actor much less so save the locked/presumed winner Kaluuya. It was a gamble that paid off.

The Oscars need a committee like the Tony's have to determine who falls into leading and who falls into supporting.

R7 Cohen was nominated in the Supporting Actor category for The Trial of the Chicago and not for that interminable, pretentiously titled Borat rehash.

I actually don’t think a Bozeman win is a shoe-in. The Academy did not love MRBB.

If he had been put in Supporting for 5 BLOODS he would have been likelier to win. The Academy may not want to give a Best Actor to a deceased actor, it creates no incentive for the industry.

I think it will be Ahmed versus Yuen.

Anyone else miss movie stars ?

R53 Interesting point. Maybe they thought Mank's depiction of the screenwriter was unflattering.

Thank you for explaining why I found Mank so off putting, R46. I felt like I had to try watching it since I figured it would be nominated. It was repulsive.

It's kind of hilarious seeing people here get upset about the nominations for Borat. Did r7 have to fall back on her fainting couch after having worked herself into such an apoplectic rage?

Agree with r74; Bakalova absolutely deserved it. Even if you don't like the movie, the nomination is for her performance, which was terrific, not the film itself (it's Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role, not Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Completely Proper, Not at All Vulgar Motion Picture). She's not even in the most embarrassing film in that category.

how manu blacks will get the oscars for their shit roles and movies? They made ANY good movie last year??

R90 OMG Glenn, you don't have to worry. There's none in your category.

Candace Bergen should have Glenn's Supporting slot for Let Them All Talk. Dianne Wiest and Meryl Streep are good but Bergen walks off with the movie.

Davis is definitely in the wrong category. I actually think that movie and much of what happens between the men in the band could still happen if Ma Rainey was an offscreen character.

I actually think Maria Bakalova will win.

Can you imagine if Olivia wins again over Glenn?

R77 They gave it to Jennifer Hudson after her Globe win.

Can someone explain the difference between Vanessa Kirby, Jodie Comer and Natalie Dormer?

They're all just the same woman, right?

I bet the ratings will suck like they have for all these other bullshit award shows.

R91 Leslie Odom Jr. for what he got nomiantion?

Mank has the most nominations of any film – 10.

R97 exactly, who cares how many niggers will got oscars..

[quote]Also don't be surprised if Mank wins in the end; if there's one thing Hollywood loves, it's itself.

Mank is this year’s The Irishman. Big director passion project, produced by Netflix, that people respect more than they love.

Well, that escalated quickly.

I think actress is between Mulligan and Day.

Is Yuen the biggest surprise? It was a small, capable performance... but Oscar?

Did Sharey Milligan expose sagged teat in PYW? She’s anorexic in interviews but i think it looks good.

Me R86.

R100 I'm sure you do. I'm sure you care an awful lot. I'm glad so many are nominated to make pieces of trash like you as angry as possible.

Riz Ahmed will win it and rightly so.

R94 yes

R104 it is political.. now academy HAS to notice that there are asians, if not they are racist..so they have to nominate shit "actors" from asia to kiss their ass.

R100, don’t you have a Klan meeting (or a Trump rally - sane thing) to attended somewhere that is not here?

I think they should put the Oscars in youtube now. I feel it’s over. It doesn’t have the same weight or gravitas it used to. I don’t know any of those people with the exception of a few, who probably won’t even go.

Maria Bakalova will win.

I just watched Minari yesterday and had some expectation that Yuen would have a more substantial role. The film ended kind of abruptly in a way that made me wonder why I bothered. The cast was all uniformly excellent though. I’m surprised it didn’t get a nom for Cinematography. It was beautifully filmed.

Watched that Billie Holiday film too. I love Andra Day but... oh dear. That was a right mess that went on about 40 mins. too long.

Oscar snubs:

R107 no i dont.. i see with disgust how many oscars black forced to get for their shit movies , nobody want to see. You are trash and your boring VICTIM movies..

[R64] Jared Leto was amazing in The Little Things. Fuck off.

R111 I am from europe , idiot. fuck off with your trump, that is you problem.

R110 You're nuts. Yuh-jung Youn in that movie was interesting, exactly what a "supporting" role should be. I simply though the father wasn't that astonishing.

I am so tired of the racists on DL.... boring and cowardly.

R104 there’s been a lot of buzz surrounding Minari. So I’m not surprised it did well this morning. Glad Lakeith got the Leto slot. Little Things was boring ass movie despite the actors in it. No Jodie but it might’ve suffered from not enough voters in the acting branch seeing her film. It’s really Glenn’s to lose this year. I don’t think it’ll take much to finally push her over the edge vote wise and Hillbilly Elegy will do the trick. I’m going with Mank for pic. Zhao director. Chadwick, Carey and Daniel in the other top categories.

[quote]Maria Bakalova – Borat: Subsequent Moviefilm

[quote]Glenn Close – Hillbilly Elegy

The two comedy performances of the year, head to head!

R119 no i am not....since parasite asians are visible now in oscar academy, lol when where you when kurosawa made movies?? now koreans make good movies lol hahahhahahahha you are so hypocrities..kurosawa did good movies , not some park or pork

I actually thought the actor who played Malcolm X gave a much better performance than Odom in “One Night in Miami.” But Odom also got to sing so I guess that did it.

More people (black AND non-black) are pissed over (1) Delroy Lindo being snubbed again, (2) Lakeith Stanford being nominated for supporting and not lead. So try again, r52.

R123 plus he’s a double nominee for song too. Bet Spike Lee is pissed off that Da 5 Bloods got next to nothing. But when is Lee NOT pissed off about something.

I think Vinterberg as Director is a surprise, no?

I watched Ben Hur this weekend and checked out some of the extras which included the 1959 academy awards.

The thing I noticed was how short the speeches were. Also the winners did not seem emotionally overwhelmed. They were grateful, not pretty stoic compared to how people seem to day at the podium.

R125 Terence Blanchard's score for Da 5 Bloods was lovely.

How is Glenn supposed to win for that movie that’s been trashed and made fun of so hard?

Yes R127. Speeches seemed 30 seconds long.

Great, we have noms, but do we even have a venue or host yet? And the Tina&Amy schtick show is not welcome here!

Hey, racist birdshit @ r116: non-whites make movies too. Get over it, already!

Hmmm now that I think of it, I wonder if Zhao will win it, since they had a non-American Asian win best Director in 2019.

Glenn is winning.

R129 actors have won for ALL kinds of performances. Glenn is a pro and an industry vet with nearly 40 years of nominations. I think it’s going be hard to ignore that this year.

I for one am very excited about Blue Ivy’s best song nomination!

R126 yes. I had to look up the film on IMDb since I never heard of it. Lol

“😂🤣😂🤣😂 @ “Meryl Street”

I think they've given up on having a host for the time being, R131. And the venue is probably going to be Union Station.

R133, the Academy gave five Oscars in six years to Mexican directors. I doubt they'll have any problem giving back-to-back awards to directors of Asian descent.

Agreed R112. It peaked when Susan Lucci finally won.

R38 and R39, Pete who?

Another Round did not deserve a Best Director nomination. The film's premise was great, but turned into a cheesy snoozefest.

They announced the venues at the beginning of the nominations r131: Union Station and the Dolby Center.

I hope Nomadland doesn't win BP (I wanted to slit my wrists after) and Carey and Yuh-Jung wins in their respective cats

[quote] I think Vinterberg as Director is a surprise, no?

I had him, but yeah it was a surprise. A nice one. If that film had had a bigger indie studio or distributor it would’ve done even better.

Mank will go 0/10 and get shut out of awards, just like it did at the Golden Globes.

I don't get Steven Yeun being up for Best Actor. He was the least impressive person in it. Glad the woman playing the Grandmother go onw. She was great. Not to mention the two kids.

R147 Not to pick on Yeun, but I thought both the Grandmother and the wife were more interesting performances.

I'm happy to see so many people of color nominated, but this is not going to be a good year for the awards ratings wise. No one has seen most of these films, and no one has heard of most of the acting nominees except for a very few of them: Chadwick Boseman, Anthony Hopkins, Gary Oldman, Viola Davis, Frances McDormand, and Glenn Close. Even Sacha Baron Cohen's name has very little recognition except as "that Borat guy."

R146, I think Mank is the clear front-runner for Best Production Design, so I think it can avoid a total shut-out like The Irishman last year.

[quote]Wish Mads had gotten in over Oldman.

Who is Mads?

Glenn is not winning this year.

Big mistake. Kaluuya and Lakeith will cancel each other out. I actually think there's a wind behind Leslie Odom Jr's sails ... goodwill from Hamilton.

R64 So agree! Viola Davis was a LEAD in Fences, and in fact won a Tony as a Lead actress. She should never have been nominated as supporting. This year, she's really supporting, but is nominated as lead. Judas has 2 LEADS...neither is supporting. Plus Judas is not a very good film.

White people are horrible and only black people should be nominated or win.

Don't know if it's been talked about here yet, but Promising Young Woman is a TOTAL piece of shit. I am amazed by the attention it's getting. After the first 30 minutes, the story makes no sense, the lead character's actions are confusing, and they have this cheap horror movie soundtrack throughout the whole thing that doesn't fit at all. It's terrible, but as a cis white guy, I guess this translates to literal violence. Laverne Cox was the only thing good about it.

I’ll say it again... 12% Population, 99% Representation! NOW!

Glenn’s nomination is a total joke. That movie was horrendous.

I am thrilled for the diversity among this year's nominees. All of the nominated films have their merits (and knowing families like the one in HE, Glenn actually NAILED her character). This is going to be the first year that many of us can see most of the films with streaming. I'm sure somebody somewhere has compiled a list of which films are available where. If they do I will post it here.

r157/Jada, lol!

My surprises were Thomas Vinterberg getting a spot in Best Director, Amanda Seyfried actually going the distance, the omission of Delroy Lindo and Kingsley Ben-Adir - two early frontrunners and the omission of Ludwig Göransson in Best Score.

I dont really want Glenn to finally win it for this. However I dont think it was enough to deserve a razzie nom/win. It's still a good performance just not oscar worthy in my opinion.

[QUOTE] Don't know if it's been talked about here yet, but Promising Young Woman is a TOTAL piece of shit.

Yes, you mention it in every single Oscar thread.

The only other movie I plan to see on the list is Promising Young Woman. I'm not familiar with any others. Is there one I shouldn't miss?

Thanks to the costumer/makeup artist who chimed in here (and congrats!) - great having you on the DL! Hope you stay here and continue to share stories. I worked closely with hair, makeup, costuming on a Cirque du Soleil production in LA. So talented. The production ended, and I moved, I miss being around creative people.

I'm a Nomadland troll and loved everything about it, I would be happy to see it sweep.

It's been such a shit year for movies. They snubbed Sophia Loren and Ellen Burstyn!! They will probably never receive a nomination again. This is ageism!

After this year, I truly hope that the wokeists - who destroy movies - stop screeching about diversity. There is no sexism and racism in the Academy's voting body, now shut up.

I don't see any love or recognition for for Spike Lee's Da 5 Bloods, good! Bloody awful, unconvincing, repetitive and interminable.

r56, it was LITERAL violence that Cox wasn't nominated for supporting for that wooden turn.

^ Sorry, my bad r166 Da 5 Bloods scored a nod for Best Original score which may be the only original thing about it.

Yaaaaas Kweeen ^^^

The only way Glenn is winning is if she dies before voting really gets going.

The Nazi has spoken R165

I hope one day that a movie called Literal Violence wins best picture.

R162 with no clear front runner in supporting actress, I think Glenn will finally eek out the win. No it’s not her best work, but neither are a lot of winners and their roles. It’s clearly the overdue factor that’ll carry her to a win. It’s time this woman had an Oscar in any capacity.

I think it would be sad if Glenn Close won since she’s also nominated for a Razzie. That would be terrible.

I think if Glenn wins, it will be more for her career than her role in "Elegy."

Of course I am not a Nazi. We all know there are more Nazis in the USA. I just love movies dearly.

[quote] Who is Mads?

Mads Mikkelsen, Danish actor.

If she Glenn Close wins best supporting actress and the Razzie—I bet she would accept the Razzie too. She’s very gracious and professional. I love her.

I’m sick of this woke diversity virtue signaling bullshit. Whites need to take back the Oscars and the AMPAS.

Supporting Actress, pre-SAG and BAFTA are ranked as follows IMHO:

1. Bakalova

2. Youn Yuh-jung

3. Olivia Colman

4. Glenn Close

5. Amanda Seyfried

If the same person wins SAG and BAFTA, they are obviously winning the Oscar. Right now I think that's Bakalova but since these awards are political, they may reward Yuh-jung just for being Asian.

I would feel terrible for Glenn if she lost the Oscar but won the Razzie.

Glenn Close has given really engaging performances... and for someone without a lot of range she has a lot of range (if you know what I mean). But MawMaw in HE was a cartoon. not entirely her faulty, Howard should have helped her, scale some of it back. It would be sad to see her finally win for a bad performance.

[quote] the omission of Ludwig Göransson in Best Score.

That was a shame since it was such a creative and interesting score.

As is my custom, I will be issuing my demands to the press shortly and hoping Sister Regina will be joining me to address this horrifying oversight.

[quote]I would feel terrible for Glenn if she lost the Oscar but won the Razzie.

The fact that she’s even nominated for a Razzie is weird. Especially someone with her range.

Fingers crossed for Viola. If she doesn't win we will NEVER hear the end of it.

It’s crazy to look back, then look at this list of horrible performances and think that Marisa Tomei got so much shit for her brilliant Oscar-winning turn in My Cousin Vinny.

What performance is “horrible” on the supporting list, R187?

[quote] The Golden Globe win for Andra Day really helped catapult her in the Oscar voting.

She was marvelous at vocalizing Billie Holiday but less marvelous at portraying her. I love that she is getting attention but that movie was a mess.

R188 Oh, honey... not just supporting, ALL the acting categories

For anyone saying Glenn is too cartoonish do you not realize there are women exactly like that in many small towns across america? She did good capturing that woman even if it was slightly hammy.

Thomas Vinterberg won't win, but he's the best film maker on the list, and ANOTHER ROUND is a great movie. Mads Mikkelsen should have been nominated for his performance.

Wow, black people really trigger you all

Hillbilly Elegy is heavily flawed, but it's actually stayed with me longer than most films I've seen this year. It reminds me of The Family Stone--another family movie that isn't that good, but has a warmth to it that is irresistible. I think a lot of people actually enjoyed it but don't want to admit it. You could see Glenn Close getting a surprise win.

Official press release:

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[quote]I hope one day that a movie called Literal Violence wins best picture.

The Michfest Takedown story.

Produced by Kiwi Farms.

Bakalova can be another Tomei, then. Tomei was My Cousin Vinny's only nomination. It's crazy that she was able to win. That film wasn't exactly a critical darling.

Borat Moviefilm got into Adapted Screenplay as well.

Lady Gaga was better than Andra Day and she didn't win.

Sasha Baron Cohen is becoming a powerful force in Hollywood.

Love that it's at Union Square. Now, finally, Fraces McDormand will be dressed appropriately for her surroundings

R197, Tomei was also nominated for In the Bedroom and The Wrestler

R201 they are saying she was Vinnys only mom, not that it was Tomei's only nomination.

R197 But is always the case, here we are almost 30 years later and My Cousin Vinny is a beloved movie, watched over and over and Marisa's performance is as funny as ever. Who even remembers the other nominees

R193 yeah... cause black people don’t get triggered by white people... sure.

R193 why don’t you sit down, Hunty.

I'd love Riz Ahmed winning, but I think the sentiment will go for Chadwick Boseman. It may have been different had Chadwick not passed away.

Amanda Seyfried could win it for Mank, though I found the movie to be boring (took me over 4 days to watch it all the way through) and her performance was... well, it was okay, but not Oscar-worthy by any stretch.

The 1993 BSA nominees:

Marisa Tomei – My Cousin Vinny as Mona Lisa Vitodouble-dagger

Judy Davis – Husbands and Wives as Sally Wainwright

Joan Plowright – Enchanted April as Mrs. Fisher

Vanessa Redgrave – Howards End as Ruth Wilcox

Miranda Richardson – Damage as Ingrid Fleming

R202, duh, me. Thanks for clarifying -- sorry, R197

[quote] I think the sentiment will go for Chadwick Boseman. It may have been different had Chadwick not passed away.

Same here. It's not always the case that a posthumous nominee wins, but I think in certain tragic situations like Chadwick and Heath Ledger, the voters choose a win to honor them. While good in it, I didn't think Ledger deserved an Oscar for THE DARK KNIGHT. It was a sentimental win.

If Seyfried were anything other than an also-ran, she would have won GG and/or Critics Choice. She has no narrative to win the Oscar IMO.

Yep, for all the shit it gets of "How did she win?" Tomei's is a good performance that is most remembered. Not sure I've seen the others. Or I dont remember.

[QUOTE] Vanessa Redgrave – Howards End as Ruth Wilcox

I am a huge fan of the Tomei surprise win, but Redgrave’s performance in Howard’s End has haunted me for years. Especially the walk she takes during the opening credits, watching her family inside her ancestral home through the windows. It’s beautiful.

Yeah no disrespect to Boseman but posthumous awards do make you wonder what they really won for.

It drove me crazy that Seyfried spoke with a fake Noo Yawk accent, even though Marion never sounded like that. I thought Oldman was great, but the movie itself was nothing special, other than the cinematography and design aspects. Actually, I was underwhelmed with a lot of the front runners. My favorite of the ones I've seen is Trial of the Chicago 7.

Rumor had it that Jack Palance read the wrong name when he announced Tomei's win. Some claim he read her name off the teleprompter (she was the last nominee when he read the list), but it's clear he read her name on the envelope, and had she not been the winner, the Academy would have made some announcement. Though, in retrospect, it took the LaLa Land producers to acknowledge that Moonlight was the BP winner and not LaLa Land that Warren Beatty had announced.

So who really knows what the Academy would have done, or not done, had Tomei not been the actual winner that year.

I also love when good comedic performances win cause they dont get the same respect as dramatic. Though they can often be harder to do at a high caliber level.

[quote] If he had been put in Supporting for 5 BLOODS he would have been likelier to win. The Academy may not want to give a Best Actor to a deceased actor, it creates no incentive for the industry.

On the other hand, there is an advantage in giving the OsKKKar to a Black actor that will never be nominated again.

This past year will be completely forgotten because of Covid. No one has seen these films.

r139, since I work in the periphery of film, I will say that studios have been uhh...courting the Mexican/South American audience for maybe the past 5 or so more years, as they're about 18% of the U.S. population and are avid repeat large family ticket purchasers, as opposed to the less than 6% of all Asian population here. U.S. films play well in Mexico/South America, whereas not so much in China, even with one token Asian in the cast. Crazy Rich Asians did horribly there- $1.5 million.

That said, it's interesting that Asians will get/win Director, but not acting. Not enough good roles or casting.

Vinterberg is definitely the cutest nominated director.

And yet, R217, I’ve seen every one of them.

I hate when dead people get nominated. If Boseman were alive I'm not even sure he'd be nominated. I really don't want to see his 5-day widow giving another speech.

[quote]That said, it's interesting that Asians will get/win Director, but not acting. Not enough good roles or casting.

Which is why the grandma from Minari may very well win Supporting Actress. I can just see this older Asian lady at the microphone, urging the audience not to hate or mistreat Asians.

[quote]This past year will be completely forgotten because of Covid. No one has seen these films.

These films were largely all on streamers or made available for Video On Demand. If people didn't watch it is because of lack of interest, not lack of access.

Only 6 of 10 nominations were Black? I will not rest until we have 100%.

[quote] Sasha Baron Cohen is becoming a powerful force in Hollywood.

Not surprising, he is Jewish after all.

Yes, lack of interest because they are poor.

R224 YASSSSSSSSS 12% Population! 100% Representation! NOW!

Boseman was a star, no question. Presence and talent. But his performance in this film was one of his least effective... too hammy in a hammy movie.

As far as ham and Close's Maw Maw - yes, there are "women like that" all over the heartland, but her portrayal of "women like that" was too broad and facile. Not interesting in the least...

[quote] Though, in retrospect, it took the LaLa Land producers to acknowledge that Moonlight was the BP winner and not LaLa Land that Warren Beatty had announced.

It wasn't Warren, darling, it was me. And I did it on purpose knowing full well I was reading the wrong result. I just wanted the show to be over and to get to the nearest open bar as quickly as possible.

Why wasn't Rudy nominated for Borat? THIS WAS A FRAUDULENT VOTE!!!!

R193, yeah, some people here would rather bitch about Jada Pinkett or other black people....rather than wonder why mediocre white movies like Mank get 10 nominations. Or why everyone's pretending Amanda Seyfried is some sort of acting genius now.

[quote] Lady Gaga was better than Andra Day and she didn't win.

Chiiile, bye!

[quote] LaLa Land that Warren Beatty had announced.

It was Faye, dear.

Oh, look! Emma Stone!

Official PR release:

Hello darlings, its me, Glenn.

While I'm thrilled to be nominated alongside with so many unknown actresses who have never starred in classics such as Fatal Attraction, Albert Nobbs or that French one with my heaving cleavage, I'm afraid to report I've taken rather a nasty tumble and am currently in ICU. On life support.

I will of course hope to feel better for my big night, but if I don't make it, please try to remember me in your prayers and votes.

I can see voters not wanting to award Glenn for a bad movie and voting for someone else. The logic being that she will probably be nominated again but Asian grandma might not be. In any case, they clearly love humiliating G.

Is a Sunset Boulevard remake for Glenn a thing or was that a rumor?

R237, G is starring in the low-rent sequel called Santa Monica Boulevard.

Glenn did not deserve that Razzie nomination.

Did Glenn thank JD Vance yet?

Is Glenn vs. Olivia the new Swank vs. Bening?

Glenn should hope to lose this. She said in a recent interview that Sunset Boulevard should film later this year.

If it's any good at all, she doesn't face an "undeniable" performance, and has lost 8 nominations previously.

Sadly, Glenn will win for one of her worst films. She may also win the Razzie for the same role so at least she will be a double winner.

I think Glennie will win SAG as she is popular there but will lose Oscar to any of the others except Olivia.

[Quote] Boseman was a star, no question. Presence and talent. But his performance in this film was one of his least effective... too hammy in a hammy movie.

Agree! Boseman is good but not great. This nom and mostly win will be because he died. I think the cast is great but individually they are just good. SAG award is appropriate.

I'll laugh if Glenn wins the Razzie AND the Oscar

R244 Wouldn't that be hilarious, considering Olivia Colman said "this is not going to happen again" during her acceptance speech for The Favourite. Guess she'll tell Glenn that this isn't how she wanted it to be again too? :)

R231 GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! HUNTY CHILLLEEEE!!!!

Glenn will smack down her laptop screen if she hears anyone else's name.

Who in this thread has a big, fat, wet, gushing dark purple pussy?! Let’s eat that sloppy cunt!!!

I LOVE Rhiz but "Sound of Metal" was formulaic, paint by number shite. And why the broad who plays his love interest decided to dye her eyebrows blonde is BEYOND because that shit was distracting.

Kate Winslet needs to get her baps out again if she ever hopes to get Oscar Gold.

R251, I disagree. I didn’t find it formulaic at all. It was one of my favorite films of the year.

I love juicy black pussy! How you girls doing? Post pictures of those wet cunts!

[quote]Kate Winslet needs to get her baps out again if she ever hopes to get Oscar Gold.

She did in AMMONITE. Weren't spectacular enough to get her in.

Is Sense and Sensibility & Steve Jobs the only 2 nominations Winslet got where she didn't get the boobs out?

Please! No more of Winslet's oddly shaped, rubenesque, nude body!

Kate never listens to me - I told her for the next film she has to snot up a scene. Works like a charm.

The wrong Eurovision song got nominated.

Winslet didn't even show her own fanny in The Reader, it was a merkin!

[quote]Yeah no disrespect to Boseman but posthumous awards do make you wonder what they really won for.

I wonder how people now look back on Peter Finch's posthumous win for "Network" and if it was deserved or something done just to honor him.

Saoirse Ronan showed off her SpongeBob Squarepants shaped ass as she rode Winslet's face in AMMONITE and nada nomination for her.

I love "Citizen Kane" and was looking forward to "Mank", but agree it was mediocre and boring. I haven't talked to anyone who liked it. Undeserved prestige project noms.

R261 Sadly, that was a supporting role; Holden should have won.

I liked Ammonite - thought it was better than some of the stuff that received nominations

Winslet throwing both Woody and Polanski under the bus when she knew full well about the allegations/facts was dispicable and terribly self-serving.

She thought she could get herself on the bandwagon and be seen as a feminist hero, gaining her what she desired most, another Oscar. Phony hypocrite.

Oscar Nominations Analysis: Cause for Concern and Celebration:

"Winslet throwing both Woody and Polanski under the bus when she knew full well about the allegations/facts was dispicable and terribly self-serving."

People are still defending Polanski in 2021? Honey, he admitted to abusing that girl.

Since when does a movie have to be good for a performer to win an Oscar? There have been tons of shit films with extraordinary performances. Jack Lemmon won for Save the Tiger. The film was ok. Jessica Lange won for Blue Sky. Again, a so-so film. Was Dreamgirls a good movie? Nope, but it didn't stop Jennifer Hudson winning an Oscar.

So yeah, I think Riz Ahmed could take it this year, but I still think the Academy is going to go the sentimental road and give it to Bozeman, regardless of the quality of the film, or whether his part was lead or supporting. Dead actor? Check! Dead actor is African-American?? Check check check! The Academy loves patting itself on the back for things they think are right. They'll do it for Bozeman next month.

My picks for who SHOULD win... Riz Ahmed, Frances McDormand, Paul Raci, Yuh-Jung Youn

R268 I was clumsy, I mean Winslet flew to Paris to film a movie with Polanski in 2011 when it was still permissable to work with him. Then after the metoo movement she condemned her own free choices, saying what a mistake it was (whilst absolving herself of blame for making that decision).

R248 😂

Chiiile....

I meant to sign R232

"Then after the metoo movement she condemned her own free choices, saying what a mistake it was (whilst absolving herself of blame for making that decision)."

Or maybe, over the course of 10 years, her views changed. I certainly don't believe a lot of the things I did back then.

I'm shocked that Rosamund Pike didn't get a nom for I Care A Lot. She was a tour-de-force in that role.

[quote]I'm shocked that Rosamund Pike didn't get a nom for I Care A Lot.

So was I!

r222, you called it:

[quote]The Academy really needs to start doing something about the category fraud.

Hollywood Reporter:

Unlike with the SAG Awards (where a studio's category preference is automatically accepted) or the Golden Globes (where a studio's category preference is either approved or overturned before nomination voting), members of the Academy's acting branch decide for themselves which category a performer belongs in.

I can imagine LaKeith was probably stunned this morning when they announced that category.

[quote] with no clear front runner in supporting actress, I think Glenn will finally eek out the win.

I certainly "eek-ed" when I watched her performance!

The real Razzie-level performance Hillbilly Elegy was Amy Adams’s.

*in HE

I’m glad we could take some pity on the AA actors and bestow some nominations on them

R41, Nomadland isn’t the sole frontrunner. There are two frontrunners and the other one is The Trial of the Chicago 7.

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again-a significant portion of the very large actors voting block of the Academy will not only not vote for Nomadland it will be ranked eighth out of eight because apart from McDormand/Strathairn all the other people in the film are not professional actors.

[quote] apart from McDormand/Strathairn all the other people in the film are not professional actors.

That's why we didn't nominate Jennifer Lopez last year.

R273 don't be so naive. Polanski was acceptable to work with for many years and Winslet jumped at the chance. She gushed about Woody all through the 2017 awards season (during Metoo) as she had Wonder Wheel to promote and was sniffing out an Oscar nod. Nothing changed about those two in the last decade apart from how unacceptable it became to work with them.

R280 I agree

I loved Nomadland and Promising Young Woman. Wasn't that crazy about Mank, and Amanda was good, but Borat girl deserves it.

The Billie Holiday movie was NOT good, but Andra Day was awesome.

The Billie Holiday movie was awful! But Andra Day was really incredible in it. I did kind of forget halfway that I was watching an actor play the role and it wasn’t just actually her.

This nomination - almost above all the others - made me the most happy. Paul Raci was so SO GOOD in Sound of Metal.

His character reminded me of my American Sign Language teacher in high school who was the first person to open my eyes to the fact that there was an entire group of Deaf people who were proud of their culture and community (those who were “culturally Deaf” with a capital “D”) and did not want to be hearing.

Does Sacha Baron Cohen walk around in his underpants in other movies? I enjoyed that aspect greatly.

Just watched Judas and the Black Messiah.

It takes about 30 minutes to warm up but then it goes gangbusters. Amazing that this is a true story

R286, totally agree.

If Delroy Lindo needs to take out his frustration on my ass, I won't object.

[quote] I bet poor Glenn is gonna lose to Amanda Seyfried.

Let’s hope so.

For no rational reason, I don’t want her to ever win.

Viola should have had the balls to go lead for Fences, she would have won.

What the hell was Borat adapted from? And don't say it's a sequel, that doesn't count, its supposed to be an adaption of a book, play, previous movie, album. Isn't this an original movie? And there are 9 people nominated for writing it.

Borat was one of the characters that Cohen did in Da Ali G Show. That’s why the first movie was nominated in Adapted Screenplay. It was considered an adaptation of that television show.

The Borat girl deserves 10 Oscars for being sexually harassed by Rudy Giuliani without puking

Does it feel like some movies get nominated out of desperation to motivate viewers? I mean, Borat? Fun but Oscar worthy?

Wasn't Borat only nominated in a couple categories?

Will they let Carey Mulligan beat two black women?

I thought Maria Bakalova was brilliant in Borat 2, especially in that Guiliani sequence. She had A LOT to pull off in that scene (which was essentially an improvisation) and she did it all.

She’s definitely worthy of Oscar consideration this year.

R299 With whips and chains? No!

Very disappointing that Ellen Burstyn, Michelle Pfeiffer and Sophia Loren couldn't snag nominations. In a year in which we weren't forced with another Streep nomination, they could have went with more veteran actresses

Love Glenn, but that performance looks hammy as all get out. Very beneath her usual quality of work.

Delroy Lindo should have been nominated for Best Actor and Chadwick as Best Supporting Actor. And both should have won.

Stunned Regina King didn't get in as Best Director for One Night In Miami.

Yeah, you can quibble with the Borat screenplay nomination (especially for a film that was largely improvised), but Bakalova's work was flawless. She was a recent acting school graduate, acting in a foreign language, including doing a lot of improv (in scenes that couldn't be reshot) and she was completely believable from start to finish. Her character had a full arc, changing a lot from the beginning to the end of that film, and she pulled off every facet with ease. It's the kind of performance that should be celebrated.

I wonder if the news that Peter Thiel (bleh) donated $10 million to a possible senate campaign for J.D. Vance (the author, and primary subject, of Hillbilly Elegy) will remind folks that the movie was just right-wing propaganda and make voters less likely to want to give Glenn an Oscar for it.

And where is Jodie Foster?

Not since Katherine Ross in Voyage of the Damned has an actress won the Supporting Actress Globe and not been nominated for the oscar.

Oscars: Only Presenters, Nominees and Guests Will Attend In-Person:

R302 I knew King wouldn’t make the cut. She did an adequate job for her film, but if you watch it it really doesn’t scream directing nomination. Plus I think Regina fatigue is setting in with her four Emmys and an Oscar in the last few years. Rewarded enough for now.

R303 the nomination is glory enough for her. The performance is silly and gross. The character is annoying as hell in the film. I guess you could argue then she did her job if you found her this way, but the actress isn’t in the other four nominees league. Especially Close and Colman.

[quote]Oscars: Only Presenters, Nominees and Guests Will Attend In-Person:

Well fuck them, I didn't want to go anyway.

Is Nomadland even decent? it seems to have no plot and I don't want to spend two hours looking at that ugly hag's face.

Doesn’t some awards program give one for directors who do their first film? King should be happy to maybe get something like that, but a nom for first film no matter how many episodes of 227 she directed is just a reach too far.

Is actress Day’s to lose? She was actually electric in the role. If Renee won last year for that shit she did...

Why isn't there an outcry about Bakalova being nominated in Supporting when she was clearly a lead in that film? She had just as much screen time as Cohen and was just as important to the story. If they're going to get uppity about category fraud w/ Kaluuya and Stanfield, why not her?

r312, Because the academy has a long history of female leads in films with male leads being dropped down to supporting. Just recently, Vikander in The Danish Girl and Davis in Fences. It's category fraud, but at least it can be argued that the male lead is the main character, and everyone else is supporting (even if it's not really true).

With Judas and the Black Messiah, they're both the title characters. It could kind of be justified that Hampton is more of a supporting role to O'Neal, but if they're both supporting...who's the main character? It's not like Chicago 7 or One Night in Miami, where there's no real lead and it's a true ensemble, so everyone is supporting. I mean, Thelma and Louise weren't nominated in supporting. That would have been category fraud too.

[quote]R53: But extremely curious that a rare movie about the art of screenwriting was snubbed the screenwriters

Not a screenwriter, eh, James Joyce?

"Oscars So Black"?

Yes, no?

R309 It's fine, very beautifully shot. However, if you've seen other "nomadic aimless destination traveling dramas" like Wild or Into the Wild, then you've seen Nomadland.

It's worth seeing for Swankie, who mops the floor with every supporting actress nominee this year (so of course, they ignored her). Otherwise, no.

Lead Actress in a film should be if she is the lead in the film, if there is a male lead she is in support of him.

My ballot so far:

Best Actor — Chadwick Supporting Actor — Kaluuya Actress — Carey Supporting Actress — Young Yuh-Jung Adapted Screenplay —  Nomadland Original Screenplay — Minari Director — Zhao Film — Nomadland

[quote] Lead Actress in a film should be if she is the lead in the film, if there is a male lead she is in support of him.

Horseshit.

Just give it to Glenn so we don't have to hear about it anymore.

These foreign women will probably never make a movie anyone sees again. Olivia Colman just won and Amanda is a average in the film.

I haven't seen Ammonite yet, did that deserve any nominations? I thought God's Own Country was very good.

R322 I really liked Ammonite, and thought it to be Winslet's best work since Eternal Sunshine. A lot of people found it cold/boring, though.

I'm ready to vote.

Best Picture- I'm gonna vote for The Father because I think it's the best film of 2020, even though it doesn't have a prayer, because I don't care if Nomadland wins.

Best Actor- Anthony Hopkins because he truly deserves it and I hope more people see it and understand what an amazing performance it is and it somehow overcomes the sentimentality of Boseman's nom.

Best Actress- Andra Day, not because I think she deserves it, but because she has the best chance of upsetting Carey Mulligan, who I loathe and whose movie I loathed. I'd vote for anyone who offered a serious challenge to Mulligan. (My choice would have been Diane Lane for Let Him Go.)

Best Supporting Actor- Honestly, I really don't give a shit, but I'll hold off to see if anyone poses a serious challenge for Kaluuya, because I can't fucking stand him, either. This is the one category this year that should be canceled because of the dearth of viable nominees. No one deserves it. I happen to be a big fan of Lakeith Stanfield, so I'll likely vote for him if no one else really surges into 2nd place.

Best Supporting Actress- I'm gonna vote for Glenn because no one here deserves it, so it might as well be a career award. (My choice would have been Charlene Swankie for Nomadland.)

Director- I'll vote for Chloe Zhao because I thought she deserved it for The Rider, and my choice (Florian Zeller) wasn't nominated.

Original Screenplay- I'll vote for Trial of the Chicago 7 because it has the best chance of beating Promising Young Woman, which I hated. I think Sound of Metal is best, but it doesn't have a hope in hell, so no point in wasting the vote. I despise Emerald Fennell, I think she's completely incompetent, and to give her an Oscar would be horrifying.

Adapted Screenplay- I'll vote for The Father. This category had nothing else worth nominating.

Animated Film- Soul. Will win. Should win. I wish it was nominated for Best Original Screenplay instead of One Night in Miami.

Documentary- Nothing I liked was included. (I thought Mr. Soul was the best doc this year.) I'll probably go for Crip Camp.

I'm not gonna list everything else (which I'm sure you're all grateful for.)

Man blacks have never had it this good.

The first Asian actress to win an Oscar was in 1935.

Merle Oberon for The Dark Angel.

These awards are OVER.

R324 Yeah, Charlene Swankie, what a special Queen bitch you are.

Merle Oberon never won an Oscar.

[quote] Priyanka Chopra Jonas and Nick Jonas announced the Academy Award nominations in a two-part live presentation on Monday via global live stream. The ceremony will take place in-person at Los Angeles’ Union Station and the Dolby Theatre on April 25, after being pushed back from its original Feb. 28 date.

Nick better present his hairy hole if they want ratings.

Amen, R311.

She was nominated, R329, you are correct she didn't win.

Miyoshi Umeki was the first Asian actress to win the award, in 1957, for supporting actress.

My 2 favorite films of the year are Minari and Promising Young Woman.

Neither are perfect but I enjoyed them both immensely.

I wish the little boy and the wife in Minari had both snagged nominations too.

I also loved Nomadland, but not nearly as much as Minari and Promising Young Woman.

I disagree, R316. Wild, Into the Wild, and Nomadland are very different films - three of my favorites, I might add - though they all do touch upon living on the peripheries of society in a meditative and reflective fashion.

While I consider all three stories triumphant in their own ways, arguments could be made for Wild being literally triumphant; Into the Wild being tragic; and Nomadland toeing the line between the two.

Eat, Pray, Love too!

Swankle and Glenn as MawMaw should have done the Ammonite face sitting scene.

I hope Glenn Close gets her fucking Oscar so she'll get out of Sunset Boulevard and let a 50 year old actress have the part.

R335 Oh hell no.

Honestly r324 I wish Diane Lane had been nominated too. She was terrific. As was Costner. They've both matured into fine character actors.

I really do think Close is going to take this. I can't believe it's for that film, though.

And I do feel Hopkins is gaining traction. So many people I know have said that his performance is their favourite of the year.

I do hope Hopkins gains traction. How many films have we seen about dementia? Hell, there were five of them this year alone! But Hopkins made me feel as if I'd never seen it done before. It was a truly brilliant performance.

Look, Boseman was a talented actor, and it totally is tragic that he died so young, but the Oscars are not a participation trophy. (As much as Jada would like them to be.) I believe Boseman should have been nominated a couple of times in the past, and I firmly believe that had he lived, he'd have some day earned a win. But his is not a career that needs to be recognized with an unearned award.

Anthony Hopkins already has one and numerous nominations to boot.

Give Chadwick his due. If Heath Ledger can win for chewing scenery for two and a half hours, then Chadwick can win one.

I remembered tonight that Anthony Hopkins was nominated just last year after like 23 years.

Also, Chadwick was well liked in the industry as being an all around nice guy.

Anthony Hopkins reputation in the industry, by contrast, is mixed. Shirley Maclaine said he was horrible to work with on a movie they did together.

R340 I agree. Boseman was good not great yet. Nowhere near the level of Hopkins but very few actors are. I’d vote obviously for him, but the Boseman sentiment is strong and I don’t think much will happen to derail it. Even if we were pandemic free, Hopkins wouldn’t be campaigning, which he would need to do overtake Boseman. Hopkins has an Oscar and two Emmys. So can’t feel TOO sorry for him. But his performance in the Father is riveting.

R344 need to do to.

r340, "the Oscars are not a participation trophy."

Since when?

Gee R324 you seem to hate everyone and everything.

R305 Foster may not have wanted another nomination, she already has two awards. I think in instances like this we often overlook a previous winner's desire to let someone else have their moment in the spotlight, a scepticism regarding the process or simply a general disinterest in taking home another award. The same goes for Sophia Loren; she already has a competitive Oscar (and, inexplicably, an honorary award given to her after her original win), perhaps she just couldn't have been bothered.

I hope Viola Davis wins....

I hope Viola Davis loses...

It feels like Meryl's career has finally peaked. She was shut-out after giving 2 buzzed about performances last year. She's been replaced by Viola Davis, Frances McDormand and Glenn.

Meryl used to be sent every script first, but those days are over I think.

I actually think Frances McDormand's greatest performance was in Mississippi Burning which she's didn't win the Oscar for. She's deserved the win for it, IMO.

R322 R323 Yes, it's curious to me there's no appreciation for Ammonite was unique, memorable. Stark art direction that seemed to take you to the period. Performances that were arresting, uncomfortable, real. The oral sex scenes made me almost want to be a lesbian.

And yeah, God's Own Country was a great film. Francis Lee should have a great career.

I'm curious, for the lesbians on DL, what did you think of Ammonite?

......

[quote]Anthony Hopkins reputation in the industry, by contrast, is mixed. Shirley Maclaine said he was horrible to work with on a movie they did together.

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that Anthony would say the same thing about Shirley.

Bakalova gave a sensational performance. I watched the movie twice and was shocked to then realize “well fuck, she deserves an Oscar for that.” It’s a perfect performance.

no r348 Jodie wanted the nomination. She's been doing youtube interviews with every dinky little film website all month.

I think that was when he was a terrible alcoholic r355. He was reduced to taking any job that one with MacLaine that became just an excuse for Bo Derek to frolic in a hottub and even did Hollywood Wives for TV.

He needed the money.

I paid to see that piece of shit, "A Change of Seasons", in the theater. Sometimes you can, and should, judge a movie by its poster. Those glasses did Hopkins no favors; I think he got better looking as he aged.

[quote]R339 I really do think Close is going to take this. I can't believe it's for that film, though.

The funny thing is all the future cinema books etc. listing her win will show her looking so run down and utterly hag-ish in that role.

Enjoy, Glenn!

I've heard that Rosamund Pike is a screaming bitch. That might have affected her ability to score another nomination.

Anthony Hopkins got one of the first Razzie nods for that movie with Shirley MacLaine.

Missed opportunity by not nominating Jodie Foster this year. They could've hyped up the possibility of repeat Best Actress/Actor wins for her and Hopkins 30 years after their wins for Silence of the Lambs.

I doubt Hopkins will attend (assuming they have them live.)

He didn't go last year and didn't even bother turning on his computer for the Golden Globes. (and he likes to make videos. I've seen some he's made talking about various stuff.) He's over it.

What was that Hopkins movie about the dead girl in the car? Did he get nominated for that one too?

r365, that was Audrey Rose, and no, he wasn't.

Silence of the Lambs was his first nomination.

If a young actor is nominated posthumously, it's a safe bet that the other nominees can go to bed early that night.

not really r368 (see James Dean, lost twice after his death.)

Only Heath Ledger and Peter Finch have won after they died. (and Finch was already on the way to a win anyway. He had won the Globe and was doing Oscar press when he dropped dead.)

LOL r354 as though C.S. would ever win an Oscar he sounds as delusional as his former tv co-star Billy Flynn.

Didn't see any of the nominated films. Lost interest in the Oscars when they became about race, not talent.

Re The Marisa Tomei win way back. Judy Davis was brilliant in Husbands and Wives and should have been a shoe-in but maybe she lost votes because of the Woody /Mia scandal attached to the film and also how she reportedly gave David Lean a hard time on a Passage to India.

Plus Emma Thompson was winning Best Actress saw it was thought that they didn't want to give both female acting awards to foreigners. And Tomei was the only American in Supporting.

[quote] Gee [R324] you seem to hate everyone and everything.

Nope. Just stupid comments like yours.

[quote] Anthony Hopkins already has one and numerous nominations to boot. Give Chadwick his due. If Heath Ledger can win for chewing scenery for two and a half hours, then Chadwick can win one.

I don't think Heath Ledger deserved his Oscar, either, and only got it because he died. Peter Finch, OTOH, totally deserved his Oscar, except he was in the wrong category and should have been supporting. Holden was the lead in Network and should have won in that category. It should have been Holden, Dunaway and Finch as winners, with additional nominations for Ned Beatty and Marlene Warfield in supporting categories. (Fuck Beatrice Straight.)

Who do you think should have beat Ledger r375? It wasn't a very competitive year.

Holden was supposedly mad that Finch insisted on being placed in lead. He thought he'd win otherwise. Love Warfield but Straight is excellent too. Goes thru a whole range of emotions in one scene. Ned Beatty did get a nomination btw.

Robert Duvall was great too, in a tiny role. I thought Holden was very good, but his role and performance can't compare to De Niro in "Taxi Driver".

De Niro had just won two years before though. I doubt they'd have given him another one so soon especially for a violent film like Taxi Driver..

Yes, I know Beatty got the nom (which is awesome), R376. I was just saying those were my picks for awards and noms.

Ummm, hmmm.... I forget who was nominated that year (2008) for Supporting Actor. My choice would have been David Kross for The Reader, but he wasn't nominated. Ok, I just looked them up. I wouldn't have nominated any of those five for Supporting Actor, so Ledger getting it didn't really matter one way or the other. I suppose of those five, you may as well have given it to him as a make up award for Brokeback Mountain. But for pure performance in that category, no. I would have chosen Kross and my runner up would have been Brendan Gleeson for In Bruges.

I was not yet a voter at that point, but I guess I would have voted for Ledger for just that reason. (I don't get to pick acting nominees.)

[quote] Judy Davis was brilliant in Husbands and Wives and should have been a shoe-in but maybe she lost votes because of the Woody /Mia scandal a

Judy Davis lost because she's a cunt!

Tomei won because she deserved it. Her performance stood out in all the best ways. No one could tell those four English cunts apart, anyway, so even if Tomei had stunk, she probably still would have won, but the cherry on top is that her performance was delightful and she's proven herself in films over and over since.

That whole thing about Jack Palance getting confused and reading the last name on the teleprompter shows how easily rumors can't be disproved now thanks to the internet.

Watch the win. He clearly is staring right at the card when he announces her.

Judy Davis is Australian not English.

Ledger’s main competition was Robert Downey Jr in Tropic Thunder. 2008 was RDJ’s big comeback year and the rumor was he was pissed about the loss.

Ledger absolutely deserved it, IMO.

I'm hoping the old bag from South Korea wins (or Borat's daughter).

This is Hilary Swank all over ago. Watch Olivia Colman beat Glenn ago.

I fear it will end in more than just tears for Glenn this time.

R386 Suicide or homocide?

R385 Glenn is from New England!

Please STFU with the conspiracy theories about Marisa Tomei’s win already. Please, for the love of Audrey Rose, Ivy and all that is holy!

Tomei is hilarious in a star-making role that carried that film over the finish line. Of course she deserved her win. And for all of you idiots still reviving these stupid stories - she easily fits the Academy template for contemporary BSA wins: she was young, pretty and talented. Just like Angelina a few years later and many others after. Vikander. I’m sure there are others. It’s what they do in that category, primarily. Not at all unheard of.

Shouldn’t Glenn Close win in a year when they actually have a ceremony so she can at least get a standing ovation? I’m sure even M feels genuinely sorry for her now. She’s going to go from wearing that gold “gimme my Oscar” dress to winning on her laptop all alone for a film the critics trashed and for which she’s also going to collect a Razzie? Jodie Foster has a lot to answer for, taking Glenn’s Oscar in 1989 - she might as well have set Hinckley on her! Poor Glenn.

I liked Ammonite even if ultimately it was a bit undercooked. Kate was great in it, as always. It was very atmospheric.

The problem with the Oscars these days is that the narratives are all set so early. It’s boring. There really wasn’t one surprise yesterday. It’s like they’re awards given out by people who aren’t particularly excited about movies.

Glenn should dress up in that gold dress again, get REALLY drunk and wear like Kabuki/clown makeup and just make a total spectacle of herself in honour of all the big, hairy bullshit! Then she should go to the Razzie’s like a knife-wielding Alex Forrest. Time to have some fun with this!

I just saw Supernova the other day and Firth/Tucci both give fantastic performances

Anthony Hopkins was so sexy in the late ‘70s. Remember that ventriloquist film he did with Ann-Margaret? Big sex scene in that, wasn’t there? I haven’t seen it in a long time. But he also looked really sexy in that hot tub with Bo Derek.

^^I always wished I’d seen him in M. Butterfly. He’s so perfect for that.

And because I know you bitches will be coming for me - esp. DL’s own Dylan Farrow - here are some young pretty things that have won Oscars since Marisa Tomei, including the shift to the lead category:

Mira Sorvino Angelina Jolie Jennifer Connelly Catherine Zeta-Jones (!) Rachel Weisz (out of nowhere) Anne Hathaway Lupita Nyong’o Alicia Vikander

In recent years in Best Actress: Emma Stone Jennifer Lawrence Brie Larson Natalie Portman

The Academy loves nothing more than to give a career boost to some young ingenue in the hopes of turning into a star. That Marisa Tomei won over four old crones in her category is hardly an anomaly. People act like that’s never happened before or since. Stop being so ridiculous.

The interesting thing about phasing out annual nominations for whatever Meryl Streep did is that it suggests that roles for women are getting better. Though it was fairly obvious at the time, esp. throughout the ‘90s, Meryl Streep was the beneficiary of the paucity of roles for women in the industry and since, as someone mentioned above, for a long time she got sent everything first, it follows that of course she had a leg up there as well, while her contemporaries had to scrounge for her scraps. She not only benefitted from this problem but she also served to eclipse it by suggesting other actresses just weren’t as good as she was. Now her mediocre, hammy performances are ignored and frankly perhaps they should’ve been sooner. Which isn’t to say she hasn’t been deserving of acclaim - Prada was definitely an Oscar-worthy performance - but she’s done less to break down barriers for women in the industry than breaking down barriers for Meryl in the industry. Y’know, she’s a careerist like everyone else.

Also, all these ideas about how great everyone was in Network - erm, hello? Idiots? That’s because NETWORK is one of the BEST screenplays ever written, just terming with great parts for actors. It wasn’t the actors that was so great - though they’re great, of course - it’s the WRITING! Great performances are powered by great writing, people. That’s why a great actress like Glenn Close is so terrible in Hillbilly Elegy. Her performance is not supported by the writing.

Marisa Tomei was great in her Oscar winning role. And Hollywood agrees. She works all the time. Her win is a stupid urban myth. Stop. It’s fucking obnoxious and misogynistic.

Has there ever been a supporting winner who disappeared as quickly as Alicia Vikander did?

Young Yuh-Jung. The legend of Korean soap operas and a national treasure. Who would have ever thought she could being the first Korean actress end up an Academy Award Nominee. I thought if anyone it would be someone like Kim Min Hee or Kim Hye-ja, the Korean cinema auteur darlings.

Surreal!

The Marisa Tomei win has precedent dating back to at least Goldie Hawn. Plus, Tomei was a known NY stage actress, they knew she had chops.

Tomei was pathetic, i watched it recently and she was annoying as fuck

R398 she fucked weinstein just like that french actress who won for Edit Piaf

Today instead of a nomination Downey would have been destroyed for blackface.

R394 Lol, Anne hasn’t been young in decades, and she’s so tightly wound that if you stick lump of coal up her ass you’ll have a diamond in a week.

Not really R403. That was the whole joke. It was making fun of actors. Black people are in on the joke.

Can Big Frances win again?

Carey pissed people off by playing the victim card, claiming the sexist reporter said she wasn't hot enough for the role. Poor little girl.

Streep never suggested she was better than other actresses. She also turned down parts that went to other actresses. She worked a lot but I think your assumption that she was the problem regarding enough parts for women over 40 is false. That is a perpetual industry issue, where women over 40 are not considered valuable.

[QUOTE] Carey pissed people off by playing the victim card, claiming the sexist reporter said she wasn't hot enough for the role. Poor little girl.

No, she didn’t. No one CARES and has already forgotten about that.

Fun Fact: Price Waterhouse used Dominion machines in 1992, the year Marisa Tomei stole the Oscar from those British women.

Streep turned down THELMA AND LOUISE because they refused to cast her pal Goldie with her.

She also turned down THE LAST STATION which scored Mirren a Oscar nomination. Same thing with SAVING MR BANKS.

[QUOTE] Same thing with SAVING MR BANKS.

Yes, and then she did everything she could to torpedo Emma Thompson’s Oscar chances and then got herself a nomination for wearing a white caftan in The Post.

Does Carey have a chance to win or is it minority only?

R411 you're doubly wrong. The fact she condemned Disney should have no impact on Thompson's chances, that's dumb.

And it was August: Osage County she was nominated for.

I wonder if she turned down Dangerous Liaisons. She seemed to shy away from villainesses when her career skyrocketed, only taking comic villainess roles in She-Devil and Death Becomes Her after she realized that she was heading into an age range not compatible with that of a leading lady,

Cocky Carey thought she had this in the bag. Not anymore. Not even a BAFTA nom

Streep is an anomaly. No other recent actress has been a box office star in her 50s and 60s, apart from her, Helen Mirren and Judi Dench.

The current gals in their 50s (Sandra, Cate and Julia) are not gaining in popularity.

She turned down Fatal Attraction and Evita in the 80s

I think Evita fell apart for her over salary foreign finance issues, then she aged out of that part. It went from her to Michelle Pfeiffer then to Madonna.

[QUOTE] The fact she condemned Disney should have no impact on Thompson's chances, that's dumb.

It was a huge topic around here back at that time and basically became a DL meme. If it’s “dumb” oh well. A lot of people on here were saying it including “M” herself.

You got me, I mixed up my Streep placeholder nominations.

Yep, she quit the movie and it didn't get made with Oliver Stone

R419 it was Amy Adams who took Thompson's "place". Adams wasn't nominated for some of the main awards such as SAG but managed to squeak past Thompson due to The Academy going mad over American Hustle.

Why wasn't Meghan Markle nominated in every category? The Academy is on thin ice I tell you.

Yes, your name had to start with an M to be considered for Evita. 😀

I am curious to see how this year’s campaigns pan out. Amanda Seyfried should go for it.

There were films last year?

[quote] Streep is an anomaly. No other recent actress has been a box office star in her 50s and 60s, apart from her, Helen Mirren and Judi Dench.

Helen Mirren and Judi Dench are hardly box office stars. Both have been in hit films, but neither can open a film on their own.

Judi used to be able to get a film made. She had Iris, Mrs. Henderson Presents, Philomena. Why else would they make a film about Iris Murdoch? Because Judi wanted to.

Helen got Woman In Gold made but I can’t think of others she carried.

They’re both too old now. This isn’t 2006.

You're talking about small British films, R426. And getting them made is entirely different than them opening. You cannot compare those to the larger budgeted Hollywood films that Streep is able to open and make hits. I could name several small budgeted indie films in the US that have TV names in them that are able to get them financed (at those small budgets) but those names don't help open those films or make them hits.

Is Streep really still able to open films anymore? Her biggest recent hits featured her in bit parts (Little Women, Mary Poppins Returns), and even The Post seemed to underperform, considering the involvement of Hanks and Spielberg.

It's been a long time since the days of The Devil Wears Prada, Mamma Mia! and Julie & Julia.

Mamma Mia! would have been huge even with a non-name in the role. The ABBA songs were the reason it brought in the ticket buyers.

Honestly, if it wasn't for Weinstein's pull in getting her an oscar for Iron Lady, I wonder if she would still be a two time winner? They weren't in a rush to give her a third one, despite some great performances like Prada. And none of her oscar nominated peformances in the 2010's were great. That was the time when they were really name checking her off on the ballot every year.

Has Jada approved the nominations yet? Were they up to her standards this year?

She would likely have won for August Oscage Cunty or Florence Foster Jenkins (Following her GG anti Trump speech).

The Post made almost $200m.

r406, yep, that's why I'm hoping she doesn't win. Such a pathetic ploy. "Some old fag said I, a beautiful blond woman, wasn't hot enough. That made me saaaaad. GIVE ME AWARDS!"

R432 They are never up to her standards unless Will, herself or her spawn are nominated.

[quote] Who would have ever thought she could being the first Korean actress end up an Academy Award Nominee.

Oh, dear.

I hadn’t heard of Sound of Metal but Riz Ahmed looks sickly hot in the trailer, so I will have to watch.

R431 she probably would’ve pulled it off without Weinstein. If it didn’t happen for Iron Lady, it would’ve happened for something else this last decade. She was zeroing in on it for nearly 30 years. I just know her vote tally was getting higher as the years went on so it was inevitable.

Poor spike, no nom....so he flys to cannes to fuk that shiz up.

Look at who gets nominated for awards these days....its so swayed to ethnic.....viewers are over it.....no one watches these fukd up movies or songs.

Streep likely placed 2nd in each of her 4 races previous to winning: Adaptation to CZJ, The Devil Wears Prada to Mirren, Doubt to Kate Winshit and Julie & Julia to Sandy Bollocks

I feel like awards shows have moved from an entertaining diversion to now having way too many awards shows to reward all the content on all the various streaming platforms, with no real viewer investment. It’s hard to imagine people sitting crammed next to each other anymore hoping they get a trophy you could make on your own. Maybe the Globes and Oscars will come back post-Covid, but viewership and interest in awards is completely on the decline.

R441 You wish.

R379 David Cross for what? For showing you his young cock obviously.. He could barely act and his English hurt the ears. Like the performance was thrilling or something...

David Kross was so cute and naked.

The Reader was terrible.

I was surprised at how good The Reader was, and how good Winslet was in it. I wouldn't have given her the Oscar for it, but she deserved a nom. I've always found her incredibly overrated. To me, she never was as good as she was in Heavenly Creatures. Coupled with her attitude about how she was entitled to an Oscar, she's always been a huge turnoff. But The Reader really worked for me. And I stand by my admiration for Kross' performance. R444 reducing it to a nude scene is an idiot.

Atlanta, GA: At least 8 Asian women were shot and killed tonight by some white guy who decided to kill Asians.

Did final Oscar voting start yet? Minari is about to make hay.

R447 Now the nude euro twink was better than Kate Winslet in the film?

Carey Mulligan will bring the UK variant over. Ban her.

R428, thank you for gaysplaining that to me, as if I didn’t know the difference. Nobody said that Judi Dench could get Dune greenlit. But it’s still something of an achievement that an old broad like Judi could get any films made - there are a lot of actors who never accomplish that at all.

I hope you find somebody who can appreciate all the information you have to share. Maybe you could stand at a crosswalk and let people know when the light changes to green.

If Carey Mulligan were really that hot she never would’ve had to settle for marrying someone from Mumford & Sons. Good grief!

What I don’t understand is how Carey went from being a young ingenue to being so motherly overnight. It was like she was young one day, and old the next?

R453 Of all the wonderful qualities of the English, how well they age is not among them.

I shared upthread, but will the Carey bashing for this movie, I think a really unrecognized performance was hers as the mom in Wildlife. A woman who was shifting from young to old rapidly, and who was ready to leave her family in order to "blossom" while she yet had times. A nuanced, brilliant performance.

There’s a deranged Carey Mulligan/PYW troll who hops from thread to thread.

Please someone shit in my mouth! HURRY!!!!!

R450 I know some of you don't appreciate the Viola troll. But that was kinda funny. I actually enjoy the Viola troll. I saw someone accuse her of also being the Lange loon but I don't see it. The Carey Mulligan - St. Viola rivalry has actually given me a few chuckles the last couple of months.

R457 I don’t see it either. The Lange Troll my be fervent, but it’s not an obnoxious racist.

[quote] [R457] I don’t see it either. The Lange Troll my be fervent, but it’s not an obnoxious racist.

You only say that because you're the Lange troll.

Sound of Metal reminds me of an Afterschool special. Riz Ahmed is kind of adequate and one note in it. I suspect in a more competitive year, this film would’ve been overlooked.

R460, I actually found Olivia Cooke the best in show and thought she might sneak in as a coattail nominee.

What about MOI?

You weren’t IN anything this year, Marion.

I thought Olivia Cooke was very good, also. For me, Riz was absolutely transformative. It was a raw, real, lived in performance. I thought he was amazing.

The one person that did nothing for me was Paul Raci. For some reason, his performance (and his character) turned me off. I don't think he was bad, he just didn't move me.

I've always liked Olivia Cooke since Bates Motel. She's underrated actress imo.

[quoteIs Nomadland even decent? it seems to have no plot and I don't want to spend two hours looking at that ugly hag's face.

It's an ok film and worth seeing a couple of times.

One time is plenty.

So Steven Soderbergh is producing the Oscars. This means his beloved muse Julia Roberts will be presenting best picture.

Feinberg Forecast: Scott's First Post-Oscar Noms Read of the Race:

Soderbergh will stage the Oscars as a reboot of his own "Contagion", with Gwyneth dying while presenting an award via Zoom.

Feinberg’s forecasts seem solid in terms of most of the front-runners in major categories, although I think he’s dead wrong in Song. I’d put “Husavik” in first because it’s the only one that matters to the movie, while “Io Si” has a shot just because of Diane Warren.

[quote]He arrives at these standings by drawing upon consultations with voters and strategists, analysis of marketing and campaigns, results of awards that precede the Oscars and the history of the Oscars itself.

This is why I find it interesting that people actually think the Best Actress race is going to come down to two people, Andra Day and Carey Mulligan since, given the Academy's track record, it's fairly easy to predict that Carey will be the one taking home the award. Though the Academy has come a long way in its quest for diversity -- and deserves a great deal of credit this year for its wide-ranging slate of nominees -- the Best Actress category has always been where white women rule, deservedly or not, and it's hard to imagine that changing this year. The last time a woman of color won this award -- and to this day she remains the only one -- was nearly 20 years ago, so with that kind of record as your guide, I think it's safe to say that Carey has nothing to worry about. And this observation isn't to suggest that Andra Day should win simply to satisfy a racial quota but to say that, when you have what are arguably two equally-great and -lauded performances, it's not unreasonable to expect the Academy will do what it's always historically done -- default to the white girl -- which is why I do not find Feinberg's prediction in this category the least bit surprising.

Had Andra Day's PR team been smarter, they would've committed the greatest act of category fraud ever by campaigning for her to be nominated in the supporting category, where women of color have had much better luck.

Sorry, I forgot -- please sign the above "Fernanda Montenegro."

R473 Can you hear the drums Frenanda?

[quote] So Steven Soderbergh is producing the Oscars. This means his beloved muse Julia Roberts will be presenting best picture.

I love my life....the Best Supporting Actress Oscar goes to OLIVIA COLMAN!!!

(Suck it Glenn - you shouldn’t have fucked with me on the set of Mary Reilly!)

And the In Memorium tribute ends with OLIVIA de Havilland, as G screams and drunkenly tries to turn off her Zoom.

Soderberg has made it clear there will be no Zoom. We are getting our movie stars live and in danger girl.

Carey Mulligan at worst gave an interesting performance. At best a daring one. I personally liked her performance and found it jarring. I can see how some can love or hate it. I just thought it was unhesitant. Even when the story or the character shifted to an off beat I felt like she went with it unafraid. That too can make a fine performance for me at least sometimes. Theres thoughtful effort.

I think the narrative lets Carey down and that will hurt her chances for the Oscar. I didn't want to see a triumphant feminist ending like The Invisible Man which I hated but i think PYW loses it in the climax.

:yawn: Day is winning.

Andra Day was as good as she could be in a terrible movie with an awful script. It's really either Mulligan or Frances gets 3 which is not gonna happen. Carey just needs to shut the fuck up for 5 weeks.

I know she was not nominated but I just saw Ammonite and think Kate Winslet did some lovely subtle work.

Viola just completely died off. She's not even in the conversation anymore.

R481 Andra Day was transcendent and did more in two minutes than Mulligan, whose performance is as exciting as a fart, has done in her entire career.

The only other actress I’d be okay with winning is Frannie McD.

Mulligan is more accomplished as an actor with numerous good performances to her credit that will push her over Day who I'm not even sure will place 2nd. Quite frankly I'd never even seen her before and she wasn't Marion Cotillard great she can trump resumes

In a Guardian interview yesterday Mulligan completely downplayed the Variety drama she created and demurred to talk about it further. It’s obviously a vote killer.

Mulligan is a lousy actress who is the human equivalent of a weak chin.

She started out strong but now there seems to be an anti Mulligan sentiment.

She should have left well enough alone with the Variety thing. She was still getting glowing reviews. Jumping into victimhood can really backfire if you don't have a good argument

If Minari loses is the Academy anti Asian? I actually really think it has a chance to win. I loved it.

No, because they'll feel like they've covered it with Nomadland, written and directed by an Asian woman.

I loved the old lady in Minari. Trying to win the grandson's love is so much more endearing than anything Glenn's character did who I just found gross. When the little boy runs after her at the end was very moving.

She was fine, but overrated. She was better than Yeun, though, who barely registered for me. And the less said about Will Patton, the better. Of course, the only person in the cast who really deserved all the accolades (Yeri Han) has all but been ignored.

Bakalova is the only sure bet to win.

I found Yeun very moving. He would be my second choice after Anthony Hopkins who honestly should have no competition. He's brilliant in a sneaky good movie. I love the point of view the movie gives you and he really takes you into that world in his own mind. It's a perfectly modulated performance that would win in any year where they didn't have to reward a very nothing performance. Bosewick was fine but I don't even know if that performance is a leading performance. There just wasn't much to it.

Bakalova just didn't do anything for me. She was good, but it felt like a 2 hour SNL sketch. A big shrug for me.

Same here. It was amusing for about 10 minutes

[quote] If Minari loses is the Academy anti Asian?

Hi.

R490 She had a good argument. She’s also fantastic in the film.

Well, it seems like Mulligan is in quite a stew!

The thing that sealed it for me with Bakalova is the arc of her character, when she starts to empower herself as an individual by the end. Plus her grasp of the entire technique of SBC’s process - don’t kid yourselves, none of that is for shrinking violets. Aside from the father/daughter dance - which required a LOT of guile on her part, even if she was side by side with SBC - but when she addresses those ladies about her orgasm. Beyond all that, the position she was in with Guiliani is just...next level commitment. A lot of actors can’t even deliver a line convincingly and she had to do all of that AND not let her acting partner down who just happens to be SBC/Borat! It took a wealth of talent, technique and BIG BALLS for her to do that. She’s fearless.

I think it really hits home at the end of the film, when she struts by him having made a success of herself. It’s quite moving to see them together in matching suits - not since Ricki Lake partnered with Divine in John Waters’ original Hairspray has an established comic character spawned such a perfect and worthy partner.

And that’s before you take in how meaningful it would be to Eastern European actors - for whom she has already made history by not having to play a thug or a prostitute. Her win would be very meaningful and open doors for other Bulgarian and EEu performers of which there are MANY. (There are a lot of hot Bulgarian guys, many that I know of in London.)

She has a great narrative - she may have even swung the U.S. election - and a very Oscar-worthy performance. If she were American, nobody would think twice about giving her the Oscar. The support for her is there regardless and she deserves it.

The Variety writer may have stated his point awkwardly but wasn’t he actually saying that Mulligan’s approach to the role added another dimension to it because she wasn’t playing some obviously hot sexy woman (as Robbie might’ve done) but someone who, like a superhero, donned a specific uniform or drag to assume the character that baits the men? I mean, if there are hair and makeup demonstrations online so you too can wear the signature hair and makeup that her character did, doesn’t that prove the whole point? I think he was suggesting that Mulligan’s casting allowed for the character to assume an alter-ego and added dimension whereas perhaps a more obvious casting would not.

She basically created a Streisand effect by using it to air her insecurities.

How is it possible that Frank Langella didn't get a nomination for The Trial of the Chicago 7? He gave one of the best supporting performances in recent memory and was still overlooked.

R460 Thanks for saying that; I don't get the praise for Sound of Metal, and folks saying Riz Ahmed is hot?

I especially don’t understand the Original Screenplay nomination for SOM. But the writer’s branch of the Academy is full of hacks. The PYW nom is an eye-roller as well.

R501 Jesus. You must me Bakalova’s publicist.

Viola has to be reeling that she's not even in the conversation anymore.

Since the thing with the Variety critic it seems like there's a take down of Mulligan and the film happening.

And the Oscar for a black actor simply for being black goes to...all of them!

More than likely both of the actress winners will be white or Asian.

And the two actor winners will be black.

The only reason Boseman’s getting the Oscar is because he’s dead and black. I just watched The Father and NOTHING can come anywhere close to the brilliance of Hopkins’ perfornance

Today being black increases your chances of winning by at least 50%.

Why is every other Oscar nominated film based on someone with some sort of ailment or hardship? I feel like I'm being lectured to or given a lesson in compassion.

R514 This is why I was so glad to see "Parasite" win best picture last year.

Well, speaking of compassion. I saw Quo Vadis, Aida? this week. Nominated for Best Foreign Film. Entry from Bosnia. It was about the horrible ethnic cleansing/genocide that happened in the Serbian-Bosnia war in 1995. UN incompetence as much the villain as the monster Serbian general.

But the performance by the lead actress, Jasna Đuričić, was astonishing. She is on camera almost every second, and although the story gives itself to high drama - life and death stuff - she is subtle and moving. Superior to any of the actresses nominated.

[quote] Bakalova is the only sure bet to win.

SHE’S A BULGARIAN!!!!!

R517, I’ve always wanted to see Interiors: The Musical with Joey’s Act 1 curtain number “Vulgarian!”

Feinberg Forecast: Updated Oscar Standings As March Winds Down:

Feinberg’s tech predictions seem way too favorable to Ma Rainey, I don’t think that movie is going to win three Oscars, especially with that Picture snub. Maybe it’ll take Costumes, but Makeup for slathering Viola Davis in a half ton of lard is not going to happen.

The one that makes the most sense for that category is actually Pinocchio.

Did anyone else think The Father was kind of gimmicky and tedious? There were several times when it violated the rules of its own dramatic world, in terms of point of view, and I lost patience with it.

It was no Still Alice!

Thank god it wasn't Still Alice, which was one of the five worst films of 2014.

R521 As a film, it was ok, if a bit predictable. But it's easy to take Hopkins for granted. A couple of his scenes were remarkable. The "I feel like I'm losing all my leaves" speech. There was, surprisingly, nothing "redeeming" about his character's experience nor did he play it for our compassion. Stark.

R22 I thought the movie was great. Julianne Moore's performance was phenomenal.

Damn, 60 really is old after all. I'm not familiar with the majority of the noms, and all I kept asking myself was "These are actors. WHERE ARE MY MOVIE STARS??"

Has there been a worse year for potential nominations?

This would be a terrible year for Glenn Close to win her Oscar. Not only is she not in the best actress category but she is not going to be able to walk the red carpet. I don't know if she'll be able to crank out another Oscar-worthy performance after this. She would really need to work extra hard and at her age it is difficult to do.

I guess it's nice that you're so easily impressed R524.

Still Alice was a bad Lifetime movie. I've never heard anyone say it was great before. It looked like it was filmed on a home movie camera. It was awful.

And Moore was actually terrible in it. She isn't a good enough actress to overcome a bad script. That was a career award.

ethnics line up to the right, ur awards are ready fer ya.

Anthony Hopkins should beat Chadwick. And I'm starting to feel like he will. I've seen that dreadful Ma's Big Ass Bottom twice and thought it was even worse on a second viewing. I love how Lez Ma's little dyke goes and gets dicked by him in the middle of the recording session where you must respect her to be able to get anything done. And have Coca Colas available

Yes R523, I agree. But ultimately a film has to be about something. Florian Zeller is too concerned with his gimmicky setup and using the effects of dementia to support a tepid genre film as if it’s a psychological horror, stymying any other characters. It reminded me of The Sixth Sense (not just because the truly fine Olivia Williams is in it) the way characters around him don’t respond or don’t answer him, like Ron Howard’s terrible A Beautiful Mind when he treats the subject of mental health like a spy thriller for the first hour, y’know, for the audience’s enjoyment. Though I suppose R522’s stupid comment is proof enough that some people need the pull of genre tropes to engage them in a subject as serious and devastating as dementia. I didn’t understand to whose p.o.v. Olivia Coleman’s character belonged to when we were meant to empathise with her or when she was strangling her father - the film lacked dexterity. No wonder Florian Zeller didn’t get a Best Director nomination. The whole thing would’ve been a lot more interesting and, frankly terrifying, if it had been from her point of view; the audience would’ve empathised with her, there would’ve been a clear dramatic arc, and Hopkins could still have given his performance which would’ve existed in a dramatic context rather than a vacuum. But Zeller is too pre-occupied with his gimmick; I couldn’t really engage with anyone’s plight because there was so much misdirection in the film, the viewer is just conditioned to sit back, not take it too seriously and count down the minutes until it plays itself out, which even then was poorly revealed.

I will give Zeller one thing: I didn’t believe/think for one second that the flat belonged to Hopkins so was put off by the stylised nature of the film from the very start.

There is no way Chadwick is losing the Oscar. He has the double whammy of being dead and BLM in his favor.

The Father tried to be a bit like The Others and I kept waiting for Mark Gatiss to say, “But I AM your daughter!”

I very quickly became a film about “whose flat is it? Is it his flat? Or her flat? Or this other guy’s flat? Is Rufus Sewell going to lay claim to it too? Can I see the property deed of ownership, please?” In a film about dementia. That tells you how far off course this twaddle was.

^^It very quickly...

While dementia is certainly no picnic for the person suffering from it, it’s devastation is primarily experienced by loved ones who are powerless to do anything about it and become the forgotten faces of the sufferer. Putting the focus on the patient - allowing Hopkins to be King Lear or Don Quixote in a living room - is where this film goes wrong. It would’ve been far more interesting to see the full affect of this on Olivia Coleman and what she suffered for it, presumably the loss of a marriage and a lot of marital strife, deciding to build a new life for herself based on the principle that she is forgotten by her father anyway, etc. The Father should’ve been The Daughter.

Nope, R534, the momentum is definitely shifting now for Hopkins now that people are finally seeing The Father. He’ll win the SAG Award a week from tonight.

R537 While not entirely successful, I think it was the confusing, shifting markers of place, time, reality and identity - trying to dramatize the experience of dementia - was the unique attempt by the film, and gave a context for Hopkin's performance. But as was said, there were glitches in this - was the daughter strangling him an image from his mind, her mind, or what? Or was it just a cheap trick to move the viewers? The script, not the direction, needed work. Even though it was stage drama (or because it was stage drama?).

Still Alice was Julianne Moore's best performance. Very surprised she didn't win that year. Much better than Anthony Hopkins in The Father, which seemed like something you'd see on cable.

R540, she did win the Oscar, which is the only award that counts,

I just saw father, he was fucking good...if that black beats him i am gonna throw up

[quote]the momentum is definitely shifting now for Hopkins now that people are finally seeing The Father. He’ll win the SAG Award a week from tonight.

After which Black Twitter and Black America will go insane and demand that Boseman win the Oscar instead of some old white guy. You know this.

R543 they will that whities are racist

r527 they are having the Oscars live in person not on zoom . Glenn and others can go in person. Probably no press on the red carpet or a limited amount but it will be live.

r517 is a legendary DL post. Congrats!

R543, you mean the way white DL'ers will go batshit if Boseman wins, screaming "if he hadn't been black" yada yada while conveniently ignoring the fact that white actors have also won posthumous Oscars? You mean like that?

Please tell me what the difference is between that and what you're predicting. We'll wait.

R547 they did, for instance that white drug addict, but in his year there were no performance like hopkin's

Only 2 actors have won posthumously. Peter Finch was going to win anyway. He'd already won the Globe and was heavily favored before he died. (only a few weeks before the Oscars.)

Ledger would have won if he was alive too. There was only weak competition and he was coming off a close loss for Brokeback Mountain.

Boseman is new to Oscar caliber roles and his death is obviously helping him win stuff since there is another strong candidate.

It’s not just his death. It’s because he’s dead and he was black. Let’s call it the way it is.

I'm Ma Rainey and everyone is talking about some dead first time nominee!!! See how I suffer!!! Why do these things always happen to me?

Ledger's fans practically demanded the academy give him the oscar before the film was even released. No one else even had a chance that year because his name was practically engraved on the trophy a year before the ceremony. And he was never favored to win for Brokeback Mountain. A piece of revisionist history his fans love to peddle. Phillip Seymour Hoffman won every award that year. He never stood a chance.

There's none of that ridiculous sense of entitlement coming from Chadwick Boseman's fans.

[quote] Still Alice was Julianne Moore's best performance. Very surprised she didn't win that year.

She did - in the real world, outside your house.

R533, it sounds like Still Alice is all you can handle. The Father was beyond your limited scope. Stick with Lifetime.

Boseman was a star. An actor of incredible range and power. His role in MRBB wasn't his strongest. One can say he shouldn't win... but can the fucking racists just shut your poisonous traps. DL these days is like walking through a shit-covered homeless camp with the increasing racist posting.

There are some of us who think Boseman’s overwrought, self-indulgent performance in MRBB doesn’t deserve shit. We should be able to express that here without someone shrieking “RACIST!” at us.

R566 A straw man argument. Simply saying he shouldn't win (as I did, you may notice) and leaving it there. No problem. Saying "but he's going to win because they gotta give it to The Black"... or some version of that, is racist.

Perhaps you could simply say you agree.

R556, stop being such a Karen, FFS.

People, you’re talking about an awards body that gave Al Pacino an Oscar for his performance in... The Scent of A Woman. And gave an Oscar to Rami fucking Malek and model/actress Eddie fucking Redmayne. I think they can afford to give the late Chadwick Boseman an Oscar without harming their reputation too much, such as it is. Since Oscars are pretty much the kiss of death these days anyway, at least they won’t have to worry about killing his career.

Hate to disappoint all the racists.

R559 Well yeah, CB can have it but it would suck, he wasn’t an excellent actor. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Give it to Chiwetel.

r555's post is anti-homeless. No need to insult a disadvantaged group to make your point.

R561 Trying way too hard kid...

R558 and you stop being such a triggered SJW. Every criticism of a black person, especially a black actor's hammy performance, is not racism. Many people, including myself, have called out undeserved white winners.

For example, I rolled my eyes hard when Heath Ledger swept the awards in 1999. He wouldn't have won if he had not died six months before the movie's release and a year before the ceremony. For one, the Academy has rarely awarded actors under 30 in Best Actor and Supporting Actor. To date, only Adrian Brody (age 29) has won in Best Actor for THE PIANIST; and four twentysomethings have won in Supporting Actor: George Chakiris (age 27) in WEST SIDE STORY, Timothy Hutton (age 20) in ORDINARY PEOPLE, Cuba Gooding, Jr. (age 29) in JERRY MAGUIRE, and Ledger (age 28) in THE DARK KNIGHT.

If Ledger had not died, I think of the nominees, Robert Downey, Jr. had the comeback narrative. After spending the late '90s and early 2000s in rehab/prison for drug abuse/possession, he bounced back in 2008, which was a banner year for him. He had IRON MAN and TROPIC THUNDER, which were hits and well-received by critics. He was practically welcomed back with open arms. I would have bet on him winning that year had Ledger not croaked.

R563 Again, you are being disingenuous. Many people (perhaps not you) are saying that "the only reason Bozeman would win is BECAUSE he is black", is racist. All the rest is just covering tracks. You are objecting because of a BLACK actors "hammy" performance, and particularly unhappy BECAUSE he is black. You are not objecting to a "hammy" performance, in general.

R563 Not for a broad comedy, bruh.

I think we are going to see a surprise in one of the acting categories and it won't be Best Actress. I think Hopkins is far and away the best in the BA category but would not have a problem with the Minari guy upsetting the guy acting in a play with no sense of a camera. He could not capture an intimate setting because he needed to shout it the balconies with his bugle so no one misses a word.

R566 In fairness, the direction sorta sucked. Everyone in the production was way too stagey. Director needed to help them all scale it back.

Are the Sag Awards on Zoom too?

I thought the actor that played Toledo was wonderful and kept it real for the most part. He seemed to be acting in another movie in moments. It wasn't until the absurd ending that I thought it went to the absurd. That was one deadly, sultry and drama filled recording session. People cried, screamed, came, and died. Oscars all around

The SAG awards are on zoom. They aren't even live. They are taping them this week and will edit together a one hour brief version to air on Sunday.

And no way would Downey Jr. have beat Ledger. Ledger was being touted as the next James Dean or Paul Newman after Brokeback. They would have made up for him not winning there......and he did do an excellent job as the Joker. Made it unique and different from Nicholson and Cesar Romero.

Are we expecting Miss Viola Davis to make an appearance in this abbreviated Zoom broadcast they are blessing us with? I refuse to miss her face reaction when Carey Mulligan's name is announced.

Viola would never miss a chance to win another award. She'd crawl through a vat of covid if it meant a trophy.

R572, St Viola would LOVE to be able to crawl through a vat of Covid. The drama, the tension, the brave dignity, the noble self-righteousness, the SUFFERING!!! She could live off that story for the next 30 years.

R564 of course, understand it that boseman was not so amazing and people have right to say it out loud .. we say that he is black because black people lately force acedemy to give the same amount of nominations and awards ,if not academy is racist..it is impossible to keep almost the same amount of awards to black and whites because there are less black actors in usa. Simple math and statistics.

R559 You are racist, because you cannot acept the fact that white people prefer white actor then black one.. Grow up, fucking moron..Boseman was tiring in that movie which is another victim movie about blacks...

Another vote for Anthony Hopkins. His performance in The Father was mesmerizing, so much so that the other actors were lacklustre in comparison (I can't imagine why Olivia Colman was nominated for a Supporting Actress Oscar, as her performance was not noteworthy). Hopkins took the viewer on an hour and 37 minute journey through the mind of an elderly man sinking into fog and oblivion. Memorable and most deserving of the Oscar.

R563, all good points.

R564, go fuck yourself.

Really R576? So dementia is like being stuck in a tepid remake of The Others? Sure.

[576] Disagree...Colman was subtle, moving, very non-actorish unlike (cough) GC.

no shit, jus hand em over to the ethnics, ya know they will 'win' em all......pitiful

Tried watching the father twice but its boring as fuk....so will prob win.

ARE THE OSCARS BOUGHT LIKE THE G GLOBES are???

[quote]Hong Kong broadcaster drops Oscars after 52 years, says unrelated to Beijing angst over nominees

oh brother now we must endure asian b.s......

Mulligan is very diplomatically silent since the nominations. Focus gave the bitch a publicist and said you don't have anything to say til April 25

R584, she still gave a very lengthy interview before SAG voting ended today.

Sorry, here’s the link:

Could someone please explain to me why Frank Langella wasn't nominated for The Trial of the Chicago 7? He was by far the standout performance in that film, and possibly the best supporting performance of the year, and yet he failed to get a nomination. Is he that hated in the industry?

It’s hard to believe Langella is still alive.

R587, I think the Trial of the Chicago 7 team made the decision to prioritize Cohen pretty early. He was always the easiest sell: his character is a quasi-lead and the film is in part about how he evolves. Add in the Academy's fondness for comedic actors doing more serious roles and the fact that Cohen so thoroughly humiliated Giuliani, and it makes total sense that they'd push him over Langella.

Voting just concluded for the SAG Awards. My votes went to:

Anthony Hopkins, Carey Mulligan, Sacha Baron Cohen, Olivia Colman, cast of The Trial of the Chicago 7, Hugh Grant, Michaela Coel, Josh O’Connor, Emma Corrin, Jason Sudeikis, Catherine O’Hara, cast of Bridgerton, cast of Ted Lasso. Didn’t vote for stunt ensemble.

Your white sheet is showing, R590.

R590 I sent my SAG voting slip too and voted for myself in every category.

Fuck off, R591. I voted for the ones I felt most deserving. And...uhhh...you do know that Michaela Coel and half the cast of Bridgerton are black, right?

[R593] Ignore the nonsense...right there with you.

R593 it was a joke about viola davis

Ethnics will win ev dam thing....hells no i not watchin em....

all the award shows are fukd for a few yrs till this mega woke shit wears down some...

ted lasso is so dam gooood.

St V vs C.Mulligan. What says you gays? I voted for Mulligan too on SAG ballot.

R598 I hope you were kind enough to vote for me.

How are so many of you SAG voters? Any of you famous?

Tutar for the win! I excite.