Tasteful friends: 1929 French Normandy house on former Rockefeller estate in Cleveland Heights Ohio, $165K

It's really nice, so what's wrong with it that it's only $165K?

R1 It's in a state that begins with a vowel.

The agent needs to learn how to take proper photos.

Where's that low cost thread? I don't think Ohio is that low cost (or retiree friendly). It's middle ground of all US states.

Wow I was expecting a mess inside. It’s not bad at all. Here in MA that would be $800k or more.

I love it, love everything about it. The bathrooms need work and the kitchen cabinets replaced, unless they're original (I suspect they're not, my grandmother's 1906 home had the exact same cabinets which were a 1940s remodel) but it looks to need minimal work.

I know it's Ohio, but even in Ohio nice houses aren't THAT cheap. Is the neighborhood in decline?

It’s been listed for 3 days and is already pending. For that price you can overlook a few mass murders, ghosts etc.

Other than the living room, it evokes an early 20th century spartan, institutional ambience. A nice setting for a Stephen King movie.

The house is apparently located in a bad area. I googled "east cleveland..." and the search results indicated that it's definitely not a nice part of town.

[quote]It's really nice, so what's wrong with it that it's only $165K?

Two words: East Cleveland

Based on looking at the map, it appears to straddle a nice area/bad area, probably divided by Euclid Avenue

Glanced at the street view. The place has no curb appeal and looks like a dump.

@r10, Thank you for answering my question, I know nothing of Cleveland

It is beautiful.

Very nice house, there’s a bunch of the same type of houses down Brewster Rd, the side street, however, once you go a few blocks to Euclid, and beyond, it’s really sketchy. Even so, there’s a large group of nice houses with at least some buffer from the shitty parts, so you’d think it would be more expensive.

I was kind of thinking that too R15, but I clicked on the street view map & it's adjacent to a park/green space which looks like a good place to be mugged in broad daylight.

It's kind of sad; I am from Ohio & we used to travel to Lake Erie and the surrounding area had these historic neighborhoods with homes like these that were once grand areas. Now that area is MAGA Ground Zero - more than a few of the Jan 6th organizers were from northeast Ohio

Good luck, OP.

Now that area is MAGA Ground Zero - more than a few of the Jan 6th organizers were from northeast Ohio

Prove it. NEO is solid blue, hardly MAGA country.

Love the slate roof and it's got good bones. A little paint, replace the toilets, and transplant it to a coastal state and it would be perfect.

It’s got one of those big security signs prominently posted near the front door. Hardest of hard passes.

It has that "older home" charm but i kind of hate the kitchen.

but i really love eyebrow dormers on houses.

Something eerie about the place .

Yes there’s something eerie all right — the crime rate. The numbers are astonishing.

The overall violent crime rate is 450% — so four and a half times higher than the already ghastly US average crime rate.

Some of the designs on the tiles look as though the owners were trying to summon demons.

I shouldn't laugh but the chart at R23 shows the rape rate as 0%.

I've wondered how Sloan Valve toilets work in single family houses. I live in a neighborhood of grand old houses and none have these toilets. Lots of NY apartments do, and I get that. I don't get how they work in a normal house.

@r25, "I shouldn't laugh but the chart at [R23] shows the rape rate as 0%. "

Have you ever seen Ohio women?

It looks like a house where a serial killer would bury small children in the basement. Tasteful friends NEVER reside in shitty, red states.

R10: Your geography sucks. It's nowhere near Euclid Avenue. This section of East Cleveland is up the hill and away from the rest of the town. Would not be a good place in terms of schools, but would be fine otherwise. The house needs updates. I wouldn't be surpised if its recently been a rental--the current occupants are rather young.

Love the house. I’d only wish for more original details, because I love old houses.

Sounds like the neighborhood is a problem.

The kitchen and bathrooms need updating, the slate roof is deteriorating repairing or replacing the roof is $$$. I'd want to see a report on the plumbing and HVAC as to age and condition. The windows look original and probably leak a ton of cold air in the winter.

The property taxes on Ohio homes are way too high

R25 that website doesn’t provide rape stats for most communities. In fact it’s a bit dumb they have it on the graph. I’ve never seen rape numbers reported for any community.

From the listing [quote] Last Sold$ 68k in 2016

I don't see any recent improvements that make it worth $100,000 more than just four years ago.

I went back to Ohio, but my city was gone!

R16: You know nothing about the Eastern suburbs of Cleveland (where this is located). You're probably the dumbass who thought this was on Euclid Avenue.

Is that a shower for midgets next to the kitchen sink?

r25: but what's the rape rape rate?

It seems a little dark (might be the photos), but otherwise it's great. The price is great too.

The property taxes in Cleveland Heights are ridiculous, almost 4%.

That’s one ugly exterior paint job. Oh, let’s just cover up everything that gives this house charm appeal....

One of the reasons I like Cleveland. Yes this is a little tooo close to some really bad areas. But even in the heart of Cleveland Heights you can find some good deals. Even Shaker Heights is a steal compared to most urban areas of the US. Great history, the lakefront, some gay bars, good restaurants, unpretentious. And an awesome world class hospital. Cleveland area has a lot of good things going for it.

But visit the Flex bathhouse in eastern Cleveland and you understand why it’s cheap. Some really poor areas there. But I would still consider this house. Good architecture that you can’t find in most of the US for under $1 million.

A friend of mine bought a 1920s tudor style house with a slate roof that was much smaller than this . When she had to get the roof fixed it was going to cost her $60,000 to have it redone. And that was 10-15 years ago. I couldnt even imagine what a roof that size would cost. By the by,she ended up replacing her roof with shingles,though she really didnt want to . it was just too cost prohibitive.