Dylan’s Truth wants understanding and empathy when you watch tonight’s episode of Allen V Farrow

Damn. I was hoping an asteroid would mercifully end this planet before someone started another thread about this exhausting family.

As a fellow asteroid-hopeful, I fully agree R1 But here we are.

Dylan you look like a mouth breather. That's not a good look, it's a polite term for moron, you may not have been taught that. Didn't Mia teach you anything else aside from "your truth"? Like manners? Vocabulary? I didn't think so.

She should STFU

Woody should STFU. And his moronic wife, too.

She ended Woody's career, what exactly does she want?

Boy, R2 sounds like the most insufferable prick imaginable. Scum of the earth, that one.

Since Woody seems to have been convicted in the public arena of something he most likely never did, I think he should at least be able to punch Dylan in her smug, ugly lying face. If you're gonna do the time, you should at least do SOME crime.

Mia is the one who refuses to shut the fuck up. The other two live their lives quietly, until "Dylan's Truth" gets rehashed/unleashed by Mia and her "team" aka boyfriend-son every four years.

"Since Woody seems to have been convicted in the public arena of something he most likely never did, I think he should at least be able to punch Dylan in her smug, ugly lying face. If you're gonna do the time, you should at least do SOME crime."

Shut up, Woody, you child molesting perv.

Ugh, why can't these people just hate each other in private like every other family?

Because Mia needs attention, and likely money. Mostly attention.

Woody is innocent.!

He was friends with Jeffrey Epstein because they share a mutual love of music!

Mamma Mia! Here we go again.

Oh Dylan. Nobody is molesting a ginger.

What exactly do Dylan/Mia/Ronan want to see happen? Serious question. This is really old news. Do they want money? Woody in prison? What’s the end game here? The payoff?

R15 Same question was asked in one of the other threads. What is the endgame? I don't get it either. All I can think of is Mia just wants to fucking WIN. Win at all costs.

How many of the children have killed themselves now? Two?

"What exactly do Dylan/Mia/Ronan want to see happen?"

I guess they just want people to see Woody Allen for what he really is. I think a lot of people, incredibly, revere him, and swear up and down that he is "innocent" when they know nothing at all about him or what happened between him and Mia Farrow and their children. What definitely IS known is that he took pornographic pictures of the adopted daughter of the woman he had been involved with for many years and had children with. He tried to explain that by saying the photos were for a "modeling portfolio." Split beaver pictures are used in modeling portfolios? And of course he began having sex with the girl, too. Some say she was 21 year old when they started fucking; some say she was a teenager. At any rate, he was old enough to be her grandfather and for him to be screwing her was beyond the pale when it came to immorality. Even if he hadn't been accused of molesting Dylan his behavior is that of a perverse, disgusting creep. It's amazing that there are people who find him admirable.

R18 Deluded to the end.

Is Letty posting from multiple accounts?

Liar

Team Dylan. Woody Allen is scum.

Still didn’t answer really R18. Woody has been “besmirched” for decades now so that’s nothing new. He’s been married to whatever the hell her name is for years. Like, who cares anymore?

"Deluded to the end."

Shut up, Woody, you perverted little turd.

It always fun to see how many lies the Mia apologists can spread on here. Soon-Yi wasn't Allen's daughter, stepdaughter or any relation. He didn't live with her, he didn't help raise her, he barely had any contact with her until she was of age. Mia and Woody were not married. Allen and Soon-Yi began their relationship when Soon-Yi was an adult. Those of you wringing your hands would think nothing of fucking some 19 year old twink, even though you're more than twice that age. You'd also have no problem taking nude photos of yourself or accepting nude photos of that self same twink before ever even meeting or speaking to them. So if you can't judge yourselves, then you should probably stop judging Woody and Soon-Yi. You don't like what they did, who cares? There are a whole lot of people who don't like what you do.

Your truth? Your little twisted ass wipe truth?!?

R18, absolutely. BUT....even if you think it's completely heinous for an older man like Woody to become romantically and sexually involved with the 20 or 21-year-old adopted daughter of the woman who had been his romantic partner for years, that young woman was a consenting adult, and their relationship was not criminal. And of course it's wrong to assume Woody's guilt of sexually molesting a seven-year-old because he sometimes liked very young women as girlfriends, because if you follow that train of thought, it's fair to assume that middle-aged gay men with boyfriends in their early 20s are also molesters of young children.

"Those of you wringing your hands would think nothing of fucking some 19 year old twink, even though you're more than twice that age. You'd also have no problem taking nude photos of yourself or accepting nude photos of that self same twink before ever even meeting or speaking to them. So if you can't judge yourselves, then you should probably stop judging Woody and Soon-Yi. You don't like what they did, who cares? There are a whole lot of people who don't like what you do."

Boy, YOU sure are assuming a lot, you yammering, moronic Woody apologist. Go fuck yourself and take the ones you love, "Woody and Soon-Yi", and stick them up your ass.

R28 You type frau.

Sorry, R28, did I assume you were an old gay man instead of a fat, menopausal frau whose only respite from her imagined fibromyalgia is wringing her stubby paws over Dylan's "truth?"

R28 R29 Take it out to the parking lot if you’re gonna start ripping off weaves!

R28 Fuck off to the I Was Molested thread. Lorna.

R29 you type retarded. A retarded Woody lover. But then, aren't they all?

R30, are you a perv who likes to finger little girls (or little boys), too. I bet you are. No wonder you love Woody.

R32, fuck off and suck Woody's wrinkled, shriveled pud. You know you want to.

How fat do we think R33 is?

I'm gonna guess not as large as Chrissy Metz, but bigger than Lulu Roman.

Who is this "we" that you're referring to, R34? You don't speak for the masses, you poor daft thing, you.

Mia should never have been filmed outdoors. The lighting was very unflattering and she looked hideous. The more these people talk the more I believe Woody.

I thought Mia looked great. But I didn’t recognize Carly Simon at all.

R33 Fucking. Fat.

R38, Fucking. Retarded.

R39, you have a few people going after your ample ass, so maybe consider you're the loon.

There was no toy train set-up in the attic.

I feel so sorry for Dylan, being brainwashed by that abusive monster of a mother.

Dylan Farrow:

"What I don’t understand is how is this crazy story of me being brainwashed and coached more believable than what I’m saying about being sexually assaulted by my father? Every step of the way, my mother has only encouraged me to tell the truth. She has never coached me.”

Can everyone involved die in a grease fire?

[quote] What I don’t understand is how is this crazy story of me being brainwashed and coached more believable than what I’m saying about being sexually assaulted by my father?

Because your batshit mother is crazy and she passed it down to you, you dumb, useless bint.

Moses knows. His Mother well.

R45 sounds like a truly deranged cunt.

[quote] [R45] sounds like a truly deranged cunt.

Says the frau desperate to have us believe Dylan's "truth."

R48 is the deranged cunt again.

Dylan has a very strange way of communicating. I'm not going to say she sounds...limited, but it is close. So many abuse survivors chiming in on threads here and on other sites said that she didn't "click" with their own shared trauma. That she seemed "off, coached, not one of us", etc. that's a big deal coming from a group that is known for circling the wagons (understandably) when one of their tribe has been hurt.

It has also noted that she doesn't seem very bright. Again, you would think people who were survivors of abuse would rally and say, oh, that's us! That's how it goes! But I am not seeing her get that kind of support, and I don't feel it for her myself. I am also a survivor of abuse (male age 8) and I have to agree that something seems very off with her, and not in the way one would think of as a survivor of childhood abuse. She just seems....oh god, I am going to get flamed...a bit stupid. Considering, sorry, ASSUMING, she had access to the best schools / education, you really would expect better. Golden son and political football are being presented as the white "wise" children. At least in Dylan's instance, I don't see that. I not a big fan of Ronan, but got knows how fucked up he might be? Anyway, he's a convo for another time.

I think Mia has created a huge fantasy about her "rainbow family" that simply does not exist in real life. And anyone who tries to fuck with it, is in dire straights. It has been said many times now that Mia wants to win. Full stop, and I do agree with that.

I keep confusing her with Vanessa Bayer of SNL.

"Dylan has a very strange way of communicating. I'm not going to say she sounds...limited, but it is close. So many abuse survivors chiming in on threads here and on other sites said that she didn't "click" with their own shared trauma. That she seemed "off, coached, not one of us", etc. that's a big deal coming from a group that is known for circling the wagons (understandably) when one of their tribe has been hurt."

There is definitely NOT any certain way that abuse survivors behave. They ALL react in their own way to what has happened to them. To say that Dylan Farrow is "not one of us" and not part of "our tribe" is truly crazy talk. What is she SUPPOSED to act like? As far as my impression of her goes, well, in interviews she always seemed distraught and upset at having to talk about what happened to her. Now THAT is certainly consistent with someone who has suffered sexual abuse. And it doesn't help that she and her mother and her brother Ronan constantly have vitriol thrown at them from the supporters of Woody Allen. No wonder she behaves the way she does.

R52 I think most people ignore the fucked up Farrow clan.

So Mia taped her phone calls with Woody because she was convinced Woody was taping their calls. Oy. Exactly what is Mia doing to help her daughter heal? Does she really think revenge is the answer.

r52 You seem heated. Why?

I am from that "tribe". The way you refer to what I have to say as "crazy talk" makes me seriously doubt that you have had this shared experience. Those who have experienced CSA have heard many stories from many survivors, as well as many "stories" from "survivors", and it seems that Dylan's has a feel of the latter. I (and others) are only giving our opinion. One could say, sadly, our educated opinion. Something with Dylan seems "off". That is all it is, opinion. Take it for what it is worth. But hear that it is coming from those who have sadly been through it.

So they're just going to skate over the fact that Mia was invited to stay at Andre and Dory Previn's house because Dory considered Mia a friend — and then Mia got pregnant with Andre's baby?

Andre was in his 40s. Mia was 23.

Dory had to be hospitalized and take electroshock therapy.

I know a documentary often takes one point of view, but this is not even mentioned?

While I don't know whats true and what isn't, interpreting from her demeanor that Dylan is "off" and then therefore extrapolating that she may be somehow lying is extremely arrogant. Maybe she in fact isn't that intelligent, maybe she is socially awkward or has trouble communicating, maybe shes been traumatized by either the fact that this did happen, or equally that it didn't and that reflects in her behavior/manner. But drawing any conclusion as to the truth of her story based on ones judgement of her personality is really rich, especially coming from anyone who claims to have had a similar experience. "Shes not acting/sounding like me or other people I know that had something similar happen so she is to be doubted".

The Farrows have won, why don't the stop? It can't be healthy for Dylan to be hang onto this, whether true or a false memory.

Something that appalls me is how willing the Farrows are to throw Soon-Yi under the bus, and their total disregard for her two children.

"Something with Dylan seems "off"

Of course she seems "off." Who WOULDN'T seem "off" after by being molested by Woody Allen?

[quote]So many abuse survivors chiming in on threads here and on other sites said that she didn't "click" with their own shared trauma.

What struck me in comments after the first episode is that so many women identified w/Mia's remark, "I had given up on dating, who would be interested in a woman w/7 kids." Variations on this sentiment are common when a great guy shows up to date a woman with kids. Sadly, they all knew what comes next.

As to what the endgame is...I'm not sure. It seems this saga is a trilogy, and we are living through the third segment.

Vol 1. Woody & Mia: 80s cinema darlings

Vol 2. The Grostequerie of the Breakup: Father/Daughter time in the attic, custody fights, pornographic polaroids, so on.

Vol 3. Ronan's Revenge

[quote] [R52] You seem heated. Why?

Because she's the lunatic who keeps insisting she knows that Dylan is telling the truth, going so far as to falsely infer she herself was molested.

Her truth is honest people's lies.

I received every other kind of abuse as a child except sexual abuse. I believe Woody Allen.

I think Woody Allen did molest her. Fuck him.

For R33 and all the Mia/Dylan apologists. Read this and get back to me...

Moses looks absolutely miserable in all the old movies. He grew up to be a gently handsome man. I hope he's found some happiness; he's clearly smart as hell.

R65 Great piece, destroys Mia.

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It is so clear Woody fiddled with Dylan.

The documentary hinted at what we long suspected and that is the Woody was grooming Soon-Yi from a young age.

Wonder how much money Woody paid for Moses’ article.

R69 Yeah, that is not true. Just a reminder, to people still in reality, the team that made this docufantasy also made the one on rapes on college campuses, that you may remember was revealed to be utter shite.

Moses kisses Woody's ass so relentlessly it's obvious he's getting compensated for it. I assume Woody is paying him handsomely for his efforts.

R72 Fuck load more believable than Ginger Gunge.

Yeah, I don't see Moses living high off the hog or anything. He said his piece and went right back into silence and privacy, whereas Dylan can't shut the fuck up and wants her face everywhere.

Moses wants the inheritance, which will go to Soon Yi and him.

Woody's a pedophile with zero awareness of his own actions. There's something borderline malicious about him as well. In Annie Hall, the Chris Walken character is based on Diane Keaton's actual brother, who suffered from mental illness. Woody's character is so hateful towards him, and puts him down in such a cruel way that he wants the audience to laugh at him. It shows you what a piece of shit he really is.

That Ronan will single handedly bring down his legacy is nothing but sweet justice. He was never that great of a movie maker to begin with.

Gee what valid points. That have nothing to do with this fantasy molestation. And use his real name. Satchel.

R75 - I forgot about those scenes. Yeah, they were funny.

We all need to call Ronan by his given name, please. Briefcase.

I always thought it was tacky to name your kids after baseball players and jazz musicians. Pick a family name, ffs.

I also was hoping for an asteroid, R1.

R52 wow they really do look alike, great call. Dylan also got a nose job at some point - maybe to look less like Woody ? (Yes, I know she’s adopted, but she really did look like she could have been his daughter)

As for her intelligence, I do know that in her very early years, she was at one of the top NYC girls schools. I have no idea when she left (or if she was “slow” while she was there), though I would guess sometime at or around when this all blew up.

[quote] Now THAT is certainly consistent with someone who has suffered sexual abuse. And it doesn't help that she and her mother and her brother Ronan constantly have vitriol thrown at them from the supporters of Woody Allen. No wonder she behaves the way she does.

That doesn't mean Ronan and Mia don;t deserve to have vitriol thrown at them--only that she sides with them (as she would if she had or has been brainwashed by Mia).

[quote] And use his real name. Satchel.

I can't stand the little weaselly mama's boy, but Mia legally changed his name when he was young, so his real name is in fact Ronan.

Names aren't magical--if you're given one at birth you don't have to keep it, and it doesn't remain "really" your name (like a wizard bestowed it unto you). I know no one who is so insane he or she believes you have to keep your birth name or that it is "really" your name--it is just he name you were born with

R83 Moses calls him Satchel. Ascwill I.

this series makes me believe woody allen......dylan and her crazy eyeballs.

Hey its a living, people give them donations, and they got a bundle for this Hbo thing.

Dylan looks like a particularly tiresome Catherine Tate character.

Emily Yoffee is not one to use in support of Allen. She’s like Andrew Sullivan, a barely hidden misogynistic Trumpie who sides with rapists. She has a long history of problematic bullshit articles that support campus rapists.

Emily Yoffee is not reliable and has a vendetta against women R71. She is not to be taken seriously. Her deplorable take on their docu was widely derided and excoriated.

weird how they used a weird altered voice for woody and the worst god dam pix of him they could

nasty hags.

I wonder how much Moses got for turning on the family.

[quote] Soon-Yi wasn't Allen's daughter, stepdaughter or any relation. He didn't live with her, he didn't help raise her, he barely had any contact with her until she was of age. Mia and Woody were not married. Allen and Soon-Yi began their relationship when Soon-Yi was an adult.

How old are you? It wasn't 1965 where people had to get married to have a kid or be ostracized. They kept separate apartments but were together everyday day and all spent nights in both places. They were a family unit whether you accept it or not. He didn't just meet Soon-Yi, he was in her life for twelve years before the break up.

Well, at least Woody got his money worth with his high priced publicist Leslee Dart who planted all the anti-Mia attacks to the press.

[quote]So they're just going to skate over the fact that Mia was invited to stay at Andre and Dory Previn's house because Dory considered Mia a friend — and then Mia got pregnant with Andre's baby?

It's irrelevant. The documentary is also not going into Allen's marriage with Louise Lasser, is it? Or all of his girlfriends? So why mention Mia's?

[quote]Andre was in his 40s. Mia was 23.

Weird thing for you to say, considering you're always repeating that Soon-Yi was of age when she started fucking Allen.

[quote]Dory had to be hospitalized and take electroshock therapy.

Which she had done years before Mia even arrived on the scene, because Dory had serious mental health issues that were not Mia's doing.

[quote] So many abuse survivors chiming in on threads here and on other sites said that she didn't "click" with their own shared trauma.

That’s a sure sign of bots or just people not to take seriously. There’s no such thing as a typical victim and being a victim isn’t the sole defining indicator of someone’s personality, manner of speaking, etc.

How old was Dylan when Mia and Woody got her? Is it possible that she was (also) molested before they adopted her? I don't know what is true but I'm just tossing this into the mix.

After last night's episode, I wonder what Dylan wants in the end. She said she feels good that people are listening to her, but what else does she need to be satisfied?

Is Dylan charging that Woody abused her any other time?

It's very weird that he would only do this once, but maybe he just got caught after the first attempt and may have kept doing it if he got away with it.

R97

She's said that he behaved inappropriately leading up to the molestation, such as having her suck his thumb, but the alleged incident in the attic is supposedly the first/last time he molested her.

The timing of it is very odd from the offender's perspective. Allen was already in hot water, personally and to some extent professionally, because of his dalliance with Soon-Yi, so he decides to molest his young daughter in a house full of other adults who were charged with watching his every move and when his ex already had it out for him? Either Allen is the biggest idiot alive or is incredibly impulsive (which doesn't track with how long Dylan alleges he was behaving inappropriately but not molesting her).

I saw a comment on Twitter the other day which brought up something I had never considered: The running up to the attic for a few minutes has the hallmarks of a lover's tryst, not the behavior of a man trying to quietly molest a child with no one finding out.

The notion that Woody Allen has enough money to silence or suppress all criticism of him is obviously not true or we wouldn’t be having this conversation at all. It also reeks of the age-old anti-Semitic stereotypes about Jews and money. He probably hasn’t set foot in a synagogue since Eisenhower was president.

Look, if he was guilty, he would’ve had to skip the country and hide out in Paris along with Roman Polanski.

Or he would’ve gone to jail like Mia Farrow‘s brother.

It’s weird that Dylan totally trusts her husband with their kid.

Farrow said the same about Allen

Oh. My. Jesus. It doesn’t matter how we feel about Woody. This whole thing is an intelligence test - or an exercise in critical thinking. I’ve read every piece of evidence and reportage available. I’ve now watched the opening of the “Documentary” and after feeling instantly manipulated, actually want to laugh at Mia’s “I wasn’t perceptive enough... It’s my fault! I brought this guy into our family! You know, there’s nothing I can do [voice cracks] to take that away.” [shakes head in soft Vaseline camera focus]

R98 “In the Attic With Daddy” is also a song by Dory Previn.

Ps. holy fucking living fuck

I don’t like the constant weepy droopy hang dog look Dylan always has, as she drags this incident around with her like Linus’s old security blanket. It may have happened, I don’t know, she’s annoying nonetheless. People have suffered much more, she should suck it up and do something else for an identity.

I always have to laugh at Woody Allen crawling around in a crawlspace. Woody Allen a skittish hypochondriac in a dirty crawlspace full of mice and mousetraps. It is a case of a narcissistic woman who is still full of rage. Not unusual for narcissists to be trying to get vengeance 30 years later. I have read everything about this case. This Documentary was completely one-sided. By the way, I have seen so many parents stick their fingers in their kid's mouths as a pacifier. She was a baby when Mia said he stuck his fingers in her mouth. That practice is not unusual.

"By the way, I have seen so many parents stick their fingers in their kid's mouths as a pacifier. She was a baby when Mia said he stuck his fingers in her mouth. That practice is not unusual."

About that finger sucking, which you consider "not unusual." Here's what Dylan had to say about it:

“I didn’t like when he would stick his thumb in my mouth. I didn’t like it when I had to get in bed with him under the sheets when he was in his underwear.”

“I have memories of getting into bed with him. He was in his underwear, and I'm in my underwear, cuddling. I remember his breath on me. He would just wrap his body around me, very intimately.”

"I remember sitting on the steps with him in the country house. There was nobody else around, and he was directing me on how to suck his thumb, telling me what to do with my tongue. And I think that lasted a while. It felt like a long time.”

Yeah, it's so "normal" to stick your THUMB in your child's mouth and tell her what to do with her TONGUE. Normal for a child molester, maybe.