Prince Harry defends "The Crown," feels sorry for himself to James Corden

[quote] But we never walked away.” He added: “I will never walk away. I will always be contributing.”

We’ll see.

I really don't have an opinion on Harry or Meghan leaving the royals. If that makes them happy, whatever, but this is embarrassing really.

They insist they don't want the spotlight on them and then also go running to Corden and Oprah for interviews... yeah, okay.

[quote] In an interview with James Corden for the US programme The Late Late Show, Prince Harry said he minded the intrusions of the media into his family’s life much more than the miniseries, which was “obviously fiction”.

How can he say that with a straight face while being interviewed--by consent!--on a late-night talk show, and having his wife appear on it while he does so?

He is just like his mother: complaining about the press's intrusion into his life while welcoming it to further his own ends.

By contributing he meant contributing to his own wealth via trading in his birthright name/ title.

Is there anyone who still believe his/ Meghan’s pleas for privacy? Because you know, living a private is signing undeserving media deals, hiring a team of 5 PR specialists. Not to mention hire photographers to document their “charity” work, announce publicly every measly donation they’ve made, planting stories with sympathetic media like People magazine, doing interviews with disgusting ham Corden and megalomaniac, past-it Oprah.

They expect Americans to buy this and clamor for more of their brand?

So did Harry screw Oprah over by granting this "surprise" first interview to Corden? She can't be happy about this.

Look I have nothing against Harry or Meghan. As William and Kate's children grow older, Harry and Meghan's relevance within the royal family would have waned due to their place in the line of succession, so I understand the desire to want to find their path. But I wish they would be honest about the fact that part of their desire to leave royal life was to commercialize (e.g. make money off) their royal connections. I understand and appreciate Harry's complicated relationship with the media given what happened to his mother, but you can't claim the media treated you so poorly that you were forced to leave the bubble of the royal family and then continue to actively court the media in your new life. It just makes it look increasingly (intentional or not) that they are basically selling themselves out to the highest bidders. This interview is just kind of sad in my honest opinion. Yes the British Media are harsh when it comes to female members of the royal family (I'm not condoning that at all) I remember Diana being hounded, Fergie being called the Duchess of Pork, Weighty Katie etc. But this seems like nothing more than an attempt to live an entitled life without the burden of boring royal duties. If that's the case, then just be honest about it. Harry was once the most popular member of the British Royal Family and I remember him in a few interviews baulking at the idea of being considered a celebrity,and here we are.

They are hypocrites.

R7 That was then, this is now.

Honestly, these two might just as well walk in front of the cameras and wet their pants.

He is so fucking stupid. Like a door post stupid. What a fucking moron idiot.

His wife is a lying con artist who denied working with authors of Finding Freedom. Then under oath she admitted to cooperating with them on the self-serving book.

Maybe now that Harry has escaped the horrors of being a royal, he can now form an Underground Railroad to help other royals so desperate to escape to freedom to live in their own lily-white communities on exclusive estates.

They are a farce.

The social media reaction appears to be more negative than positive. Also, did Oprah know that this interview would appear before her sit down with Meghan.

Indeed, R13. One trusts they'll continue their self-deluding importance, their endless gaffes and stumbles, and their airy-fairy "raindrop" pronouncements because daily, it seems, they deliver comedy gold.

Klan Granny Troll thinks we don't like them. We LOVE them and their foolish antics because they can be relied upon to stick their feet in their mouth every time they open them.

Note to Prince Charles - why are you paying for the worst possible PR your money can buy?

Harry's complaints about the "media" are just BS. He was puffed up to be everybody's favorite lad by the media, was near as popular as the queen, and buddied around with the royal reporters. But the good will and back and forth all stopped when Markle landed and the bitchin' began. Funny how that works.

Whoever is advising him needs to be sacked. If he's taking his own counsel or his wife's he needs to stop and get a professional in.

A Oprah interview. Withdrawing from all public duties. Want to go to Granny's jubilee. A Corden interview. Doesn't he realise the more appearances, the more often he is in the UK media, the more pissed off Brits will be with him. Less is more Harry. The more you are seen, the more of what very little capital that you have in the public's hearts, will evaporate. Just take some time out and look after your family.

Harry appears on the Corden show to demand privacy.

The arse is tooting around with a nasty expat fake on the top of a bus (his "first time") and then complaining about media attention. He's going to a TV house and casually chatting with his beloved and then complaining about media attention.

OWN OUR BRAND AND CONTROL ALL COMMENTARY AND KA-CHING!!! = Meghan's idea of managing their PR.

MAKE HER HAPPY = DON'T LET HER DIE LIKE MOMMY = SHUT HER UP BECAUSE SHE NEVER SHUTS UP = THAT'S WHAT A HUSBAND AND FATHER DOES! = ((CIRCUS MUSIC PLAYING IN EMPTY, ENTITLED, UNEDUCATED, RAPIDLY BALDING HEAD)) = Harry Windsor

He's a loon.

Every time he opens his mouth, Harry can't stop making an ass out of himself.

Eejit.

If Harry was open and honest he would acknowledge that its not media attention he resents but scrutiny and criticism of any kind .He wants whatever he says , does or pronounces to be unquestioned or just lapped up by the media .That suggests he is either arrogant and or mentally stuck at an infantile stage and cannot progress beyond victim status. No attempt to understand the nuances, complexity or trade offs, balancing acts and compromise that real life involves. He also blames the toxic media environment for harming his mental health and creating a necessity for him to leave the UK.. Putting aside the possibility he might be shamelessly hiding behind mental health or rather playing the mental health card to avoid taking any responsibility for any of his actions or decisions -Harry what might not be good for your mental health and emotional wellbeing is the conflicting desires within you that contradict each other. I would argue that a desire to only extract the positives from your situation eg status, the perks, privileges and prestige whilst regressive trying to avoid any of the downside or responsibilities would play havoc with your mental health . I would argue that for any situation were you more or less insisted only an upside can exist and any revealing of a downside of the other side of the coin makes you a victim. A very unhealthy and unrealistic mindset.

The half in half out approach and attitude to your life and status, clinging to whilst trying to undermine it means you are in a constant state of inner conflict and situations and feelings unresolved. If you are going to walk away from royal life walk away from it fully. Relinquish all aspects of the formal role rather than trying to separate the egg and flour away from the chocolate in a chocolate cake They are all baked in together .What you are trying to do basically having your cake and eating it is the source of much of your agony. If you can't fully relinquish because you need royal status as a springboard to facilitate your fantasy then own that rather than playing the victim , placing yourself in a role of zero responsibility for anything negative in your circumstances. Your craving for one sided fame and adulation and great wealth is the root cause of your turmoil. A quiet non royal life is available to you if you really want it.

It's so weird he does not consider his parents as part of "me and my family."

OWN OUR BRAND AND CONTROL ALL COMMENTARY AND KA-CHING!!! = Meghan's idea of managing their PR.

Indeed, R19. And what a shitty idea. Does she honestly think (of course she does, if dishonestly: she's a narcissist) she can control any and everything said about them? Puhleeeze!

In the US - where they want to cash in because people in the UK know them better by now and aren't buying what they're selling - it's nearly impossible to defame them. She's a public figure and the bar to sue, much less to win a case for slander or libel, is a lot higher here than in the UK.

Harry says he has a "real issue" with this. Why? He's bringing up the stuff that makes them look bad, because neither of them are sympathetic victims.

r25 Or and neither are victims at all.

In their minds they are, R26.

Nowhere else, though.

can this guy ever take responsibility for anything? I want to fuck off and do jack shit, instead of always blaming the media. always the victim...

pathetic!!!!

r23. Well and good. But you're dealing with hypocrisy here.

A biographer, in the Maul, but he captures the essence of this idiot and his clueless wife.

'Timing is everything isn't it. On the day that the Queen has issued a very, very important message about the whole of the nation getting the jab, that message has sort of been blurred by Harry, [italic]the man who wants a private life, talking about his private life again'. [/italic]

Oh r29 Oh definitely. The Queens approach of a dose of reality and no half in half out best of all worlds is what he needs.

He's not smart enough to be a hypocrite. He understands nothing that happens to him, let alone what he causes. Idiot.

he wants his cake and eat it too.

Until the Corden whining I blamed it all on her (and I still think she grifted the lot of them) but increasingly I'm of the view they're both bird brained. She's got no moral compass and he's all wounded feelings.

Do you ever think Meghan mistook a Judth Krantz or Jackie Collins novel for a self-help book?

[quote]I am way more comfortable with The Crown...

Good boy, Harry. Don't forget who's signing those checks.

It is interesting, isn't it? For all their "worldliness", travels, meeting intelligent, accomplished people, having experiences most people can't fathom, they are "stuck" mentally on a continuous loop of "victimhood", "privacy violation" and all sorts of other vapid pronouncements. I liked one DL comment last week about the Sussex PR release, with "Haz" or wife following up it with "they misinterpreted us" or something like that, or taken "out of context" when (as DL poster said), [bold]the Sussexes had written the release themselves.

The prats and pitfalls continue unabated day after day.

Oprah is a fucking joke. The woman who gave us Dr.Phil is now on a mission to make Harry and Meghan into mental health experts because.....? Dr. Phil is a phony who doesn’t even practice and uses highly questionable methods that no credible MH professional would ever use. Now apparently Oprah is making MH programs with Harry, though it was supposed to be with Doria a couple of years ago. Wonder why that was scrapped? Doria’s own questionable background?

[quote] Your craving for one sided fame and adulation and great wealth is the root cause of your turmoil

It was the same issue with Diana: She courted and even weaponized the press when it suited her, wanted to be HRH Diana, Princess of Wales even after divorcing the Prince of Wales, and never thought that any of her own bad decisions were the cause of her problems. Of course, she was also beautiful, empathetic, and dazzlingly charismatic, but she had a real dark side. Harry's tragedy is that he inherited all of his mother's weaknesses and none of her strengths.

Pressures of Royal life? What? Parents, who are unemployed have hard time to feed their children and get medication have pressures not a prince, who walks away to live a life in LA.

R36 that's what they bought, didn't they? His seal of approval, which no matter where you stand on this is absolutely disgusting to everyone in his family.

R40, I can't fathom why anyone thought this would look good for them. Children are starving. No one is rooting for them, because they've already been gifted with more than they've earned.

They can't win this game of life because they've never actually played.

r39 Brilliant post

I also believe another factor is Harry loves his mother in a on a pedestal way were she is seen as unrealistically good rather than the more realistic and healthier love of loving someone despite their faults ie warts and all love.

If Emma Watson had only retired five years earlier. *She'd* be the far-less-thirsty Duchess of Sussex, Harry would still be in the UK tastefully performing his duties, and they'd both stop giving his grandfather aneurysms.

He should do a podcast with Meghan McCain about how they are the only two people to ever lose a parent.

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"I had to get my family away from paparazzi, so we moved to LA for 6 months! And then after we left LA, we still visit all the time"

Crocodile was probably "ca-dai" or something.

I like Harry. Seems like a nice guy. Not sure why it's so bad he wanted to ditch the Royal lifestyle. It's a ridiculous organization and it's not like he'd ever take the throne anyway. Meghan wasn't treated well by the British press (a black American divorcee? she never had a chance) and it was never going to get any better. Why stick around for that?

Remember Diana desperately tried to give them a normal life and show the boys a world beyond palaces, titles and snobbery, so they had empathy for those worse of than them? Didn't turn out well, one of the lads doesn't want to do any of the hard work that goes along with being a future king and the other shacked up with a Hollywood actress who didn't have the skill to make it in the industry.

Oh, please. William is in fine shape being prepped for Prince of Wales status, R49. And Diana's sincerity with the kids always had cameras on them as she "showed them the real world" of amusement parks and ski slopes. "Desperately" and "give them a normal life" and "empathy for those worse of(f)....

MARY!

R50 = Christopher Hitchens

R50 Well of course she had cameras on them. She was one of the most famous women in the world, her eldest was the future king of Britain and her other son was the heir. She knew the narrative of a down to earth king would put him in a better standing with the public than that of Charles's out of touch image, plus the heir always has a history of being damaged and she tried to make sure that wouldn't happen. Did Diana do a lot for the cameras? Of course, but it doesn't mean her judgements on raising her children were bad. She did a better job than queen Lizzie, the pedo prince's mother, did.

r48 But he hasn't fully ditched the royal lifestyle and is trying to make a living out of being royal adjacent.

What he says is, “Loosely, [The Crown] gives you a rough idea of that lifestyle, what the pressure is of putting duty and service before family and everything else... what can come from that.”

He is saying he won’t put his wife and his children in that environment. Which is very admirable.

Sparkle didn't answer the phone while in a perfect yoga pose, changing Archie's diaper, and picking up an errant crayon? How disappointing.

Harry needs to get down to Skid Row and see some real suffering, his whining during a pandemic in which half a million Americans have died and countless millions more have lost their jobs is beyond offensive.

But Harry doesn't mind putting his family through the pressures of desperate fame whoring to stay relevant and pay bills? Okay then.

Exactly, r56.

Perfectly put r57 and in a nutshell why Harry is such a hypocrite.

I now see why they need to pull these stunts.

R56 He doesn’t even have to go to skid row in LA for an eye opener. Harry is like other spoiled, rich idiots who think being “normal” and living like average people is going out to grab a sandwich at the corner cafe. He thinks it’s doing mundane stuff like having zoom meetings, shopping for food, and walking the dogs. He’ll never connect it with having to work for a living, paying car payments, choosing between retirement plans, saving for college tuitions, and wearing extra layer of sweater so that you don’t go over utilities budget for the month.

So no, Diana didn’t do him any favors if they think going to McDonald’s and visiting the shelters once or twice a year constitute as living like average people. The whole point is people like Harry would never become anything close to living like average folks. So don’t even try and definitely don’t lecture to people about how they should live, think, and behave.

My kinda guy.

Forbes have the Harkles' number.

Harry can try to dress it up all he wants, but he and Markle did walk away. "Step back, step down, whatever." It's all voodoo semantics, Harry. You walked away.

And if he didn't walk away, what has he and that self-aggrandizing wife of his done for their patronages while they were living a half a world away this past year?

Did the Duke of Windsor require this much publicity and attention in his exile?

Asking seriously.

"Prince Harry keeping it classy while 99 year old grandad remains in hospital after a week."

Not a good look. Who is advising them? I think it would have helped if they had postponed the interview.

I'm fascinated by their PR messaging for the American audience: Harry's a devoted dad/husband who had to leave England to protect his family. The Queen loves them/Archie (casual mention of her asking what Archie wants for Christmas). They're a philanthropy-obsessed dynamic duo power couple: this is Haz' interview, but Meghan pops in; in Meghan's Oprah interview, Harry will pop in.

Thereby indirectly shading those back home: William/Charlies aren't protecting or didn't protect their families from the same scrutiny/pressure (though I guess Americans aren't expected to know how Kate/Camilla were treated). The Crown, with its portrayal of a cold Grandma and a weak, cruel, philandering Father is better than tabloid articles about flights on Elton John's private jet.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out for them.

[quote]“I will never walk away. I will always be contributing.”

And I am Marie of Romania.

[quote]He is saying he won’t put his wife and his children in that environment. Which is very admirable.

You forgot the bit about the greedy, wanting, bottomless pit of need and want wife who used that environment as a resume builder.

R54 It was deftly done, pleases his new bosses and subtly disses his perceived enemies in one stroke. And of course dummies will fall for his act.

What he's saying is that they're for sale to the highest bidder.

Which isn't his Gran anymore. He's lucky she sent them the waffle iron.

Indeed r67, which doesn't endear him at all to us Brits, so he still loses because he's lost his country and his people while Americans don't care about him that much and never will

He's just a celebrity in the States. He'd do well to ask what WHET? stands for.

[quote] Not sure why it's so bad he wanted to ditch the Royal lifestyle. It's a ridiculous organization and it's not like he'd ever take the throne anyway. Meghan wasn't treated well by the British press (a black American divorcee? she never had a chance) and it was never going to get any better. Why stick around for that?

No one said he had to stick around. He didn't want the royal life and the attendant irritations, so he ditched it and moved to LA. Fine, not really a problem after you get past all the disentangling from the BRF and his past life.

The question is, why does he keep whining about it? non-stop, both he and the missus. He's more than a year gone from the UK, all of the workload was done months ago, the new life in the US is well underway. But all he talks about is how miserable he was, how bad things were, why he had to leave. When are we going to see both turn forward and tells us what they're going to do in future tense? And stop blaming his ultra-privileged PAST royal life for all his problems.

They need to stop baiting the UK media as well. The more they bitch, the more the press hangs onto them.

Because r74, Haz and misguided wife have no other tricks in their toolkit. How else can they establish and continuously nurture their dwindling and ever so tenuous link with the BRF ? It's like free advertising.

"Let's see....been a bit quiet on the PR front, media, no stories about me and BRF. Let's see....oh yeah, here's a good storyline...."Meghan felt rejected, unappreciated, putdown by senior royals. We were treated as outcasts, it was unbelievable." Or another storyline. "We really tried to make a go of it, but I had to leave for mental health, " blah blah. The DM is on to this ruse and that's why for the next 40 years, we, the public will be subjected to endless over-inflated tales of woe, all for one goal: Generating public interest, sustaining public interest, growing their bank account, becoming "bigger and better" than Wills and Kate.

We're just cogs in the vast Harckle media-based grifting wheel.

I'd be pissed if I was 'born Royal' and expected to do all this 'serving' shit for those tax dollars. I'd say no thanks 'bye.

Does he realize his fragile mental health, as well as his brazen contract breaking, make him look like a bad investment?

[quote] I'd be pissed if I was 'born Royal' and expected to do all this 'serving' shit for those tax dollars. I'd say no thanks 'bye.

Before their wedding, the Queen asked them if they wanted to be "working royals" or not. They said Yes, they did.

A couple who really wanted privacy could have moved to a quieter part of the UK and with the exception of a few odd shots of them shopping for groceries, they would have been left alone.

That is not what they (particularly Sparkle) wanted.

I stepped back.

I disrupted.

I leaned in.

I pivoted. I impacted.

I shifted the paradigm. I offlined.

I circled back.

I moved the needle.

I closed the loop.

But I didn’t step down.

And I NEVER walked away.

[quote]So I did what any husband, what any father would do. It’s like: ‘I need to get my family out of here.’

A regular Rose Hovick, that one. They should make a musical about him.

All the sickies I had to hug

All the girls were really fug

Granny's life is all decay

Hey LA, I'm coming your way!

He defends the Crown because Meghan thinks they will cover her in a positive light, she's to dumb and narcissistic to realize she will never be featured on the show.

[quote]He defends the Crown because Meghan thinks they will cover her in a positive light, she's to dumb and narcissistic to realize she will never be featured on the show.

Plus, she is featured in "The Windsors." Why rehash what that show has already established?

Why wouldn’t they feature her on The Crown? Helluva drama she’s brought.

[quote]Why wouldn’t they feature her on The Crown?

Because she's known to be a bit lawsuit happy. She'd probably file an injunction just on the rumor that the writers are writing about her.

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They whine about it nonstop because they are bitter that they were told no. Delusional MM thinks that if they publicly trash the brf enough, the queen will give in and give them everything they want. Otherwise, she's going to keep hammering at them for revenge. She is that sick. I can't believe people fall for her bullshit. The proof of what a shitty, fake person she really is is out in the open for everyone to see.

R86, the writer of The Crown says he's not going to include Meghan, Kate or Andrew's Epstein scandal, because they're too recent.

He defends The Crown because he's hoping they can sue.

As time passes that seems to be their principal talent.

[R7] It was never “Weighty Katie.” Kate has never been fat. It was “Waity Katie.”

They keep whining about the BRF because that's really all they have that's interesting about them. Does anyone really believe that a drab, D-list actress and a dim, spoiled man-boy have any particular insights that would make their documentaries or children's programming worth watching?

[quote]I'd be pissed if I was 'born Royal' and expected to do all this 'serving' shit for those tax dollars. I'd say no thanks 'bye.

Nobody is taking exception to their desire for independence, its just the manner with which they conduct themselves while getting there.