It's been almost 25 years.
Who actually killed her?
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It's been almost 25 years.
Who actually killed her?
|by N. Holloway||reply 150||a day ago|
Why isn't "A Foreign Faction" in that poll???
|by N. Holloway||reply 1||Last Tuesday at 6:44 AM|
The last book in the list, by a detective on the case, may answer it.
|by N. Holloway||reply 2||Last Tuesday at 6:45 AM|
Nice summary at 40:00. Very relaxing voice.
|by N. Holloway||reply 3||Last Tuesday at 6:46 AM|
[quote]Who actually killed her?
|by N. Holloway||reply 4||Last Tuesday at 6:46 AM|
Read Kolar's Foreign Faction. He explains everything. For so long I assumed it was the mother, but I couldn't understand why the father didn't just dump her and drop a dime. How wrong I was.
|by N. Holloway||reply 5||Last Tuesday at 6:49 AM|
Datalounge is the corner of the internet where regardless of whether she was done in by a small, foreign faction or a perverted intruder, we all understand that the pint-sized harlot had it coming.
|by N. Holloway||reply 6||Last Tuesday at 6:54 AM|
|by N. Holloway||reply 7||Last Tuesday at 6:56 AM|
It was a tragic, well, do we call it an accident? Her little brother killed her in a rage, and her parents, having just lost one child, didn’t want to lose the other as well.
|by N. Holloway||reply 8||Last Tuesday at 6:58 AM|
By the way, by “little” I don’t mean younger—I mean, also very young, a minor.
|by N. Holloway||reply 9||Last Tuesday at 6:58 AM|
most experts feel the daddy did it accidentally during sex play....
|by N. Holloway||reply 10||Last Tuesday at 6:59 AM|
No they don’t.
|by N. Holloway||reply 11||Last Tuesday at 7:14 AM|
I’m going to tell you now, so I don’t have to tell you later....
SHE KILLED HERSELF!
|by N. Holloway||reply 12||Last Tuesday at 7:18 AM|
OMG, r2; any list that includes the self-serving books by her parents is a dopey list.
The missing book is "A Mother Gone Bad," title taken from Patsy's softball team named "Mothers Gone Bad." (And take a sec to think about THAT.)
The gist: Patsy---
through her previously-known lexicon and syntax as written in letters, cards, notes, etc.;
through her facial expressions, gestures, and words in post-murder interviews;
through her known and on-going, cross-country struggle with cancer and its own jargon;
through her known affinity for certain habits, penchants, idiosyncrasies, and demands;
and through her known beauty pageant past and her involvement of her daughter in that lifestyle---
can be deduced, using the logic inherent to psychology, as the killer of Jon Benet Ramsay.
The "ransom letter" is the Rosetta Stone.
|by N. Holloway||reply 13||Last Tuesday at 7:39 AM|
i chose "other"
|by N. Holloway||reply 14||Last Tuesday at 7:44 AM|
best podcasts ive seen say dad did it. he was known to be good at knots tying and liked sex play.
|by N. Holloway||reply 15||Last Tuesday at 7:49 AM|
There were injuries to her vagina some were in the process of healing and others more recent. Patsy didn't do that.
|by N. Holloway||reply 16||Last Tuesday at 7:50 AM|
Patsy wrote the ransom letter, I have no doubt about that, but I am certain it's because she figured out her husband did it and was covering for him.
If Patsy had committed the murder, John would have turned her in within seconds, probably would have turned Burke in, too.
|by N. Holloway||reply 17||Last Tuesday at 7:51 AM|
Wow. we've never done this before OP. How refreshing.
|by N. Holloway||reply 18||Last Tuesday at 8:24 AM|
Tragically, children get murdered every day in the US. Why was this case such a media sensation?
|by N. Holloway||reply 19||Last Tuesday at 8:27 AM|
All the great pageant video of the victim, plus the suspects are white and wealthy. Plus the police screw ups.
|by N. Holloway||reply 20||Last Tuesday at 8:33 AM|
Accidents happen, just remember that folks! 🤡
|by N. Holloway||reply 21||Last Tuesday at 8:33 AM|
[quote]There were injuries to her vagina some were in the process of healing and others more recent. Patsy didn't do that.
|by N. Holloway||reply 22||Last Tuesday at 8:35 AM|
It wasn’t the murder itself, r19. It was the continuing mystery about what happened, and the inability to penetrate the bizarre coverup.
99.99% of the child murders in the US are as obvious as the nose on SJP’s face.
|by N. Holloway||reply 23||Last Tuesday at 8:42 AM|
Didn't the city clear Burke and both parents after DNA testing in 2008? John had an older daughter (from his first marriage) who said that he was a good father. Burke seems like he was too small at that time to have the strength or knowledge to commit the murder in the way it was committed.
A lot of people are hung up on the ransom note, which was a weird note, but a federal court ruled that Patsy did not write it, based on the testimony of experts.
|by N. Holloway||reply 24||Last Tuesday at 8:42 AM|
If you watch the best ones on u tube bout this, it seems the dad did it and went too far with his sex play with her, but patsy did indeed write the note, no doubt bout tht. burke is just a bit....on the spectrum.
|by N. Holloway||reply 25||Last Tuesday at 8:46 AM|
She wasn't sexually abused before her death, either long-term or immediately before her death. Someone wanted to make it appear she had been. However, if she had been sexually assaulted there would have been plenty of DNA evidence on her body.
Read Foreign Faction.
|by N. Holloway||reply 26||Last Tuesday at 8:47 AM|
The cellar window that the "intruder" allegedly used to gain access to the house was broken from the inside and not the outside. If you've ever watched Forensic Files, when the cops see this they immediately drag the homeowner down to the station for an interrogation. Of course, because the Ramseys were rich and prominent, this didn't happen.
|by N. Holloway||reply 27||Last Tuesday at 8:50 AM|
|by N. Holloway||reply 28||Last Tuesday at 8:53 AM|
Who is this jonbennet person?
you creeping eldergays are too stuck in your old hollywood
its 2012 grow up or get out
|by N. Holloway||reply 29||Last Tuesday at 9:13 AM|
No. Today the DL still cares.
|by N. Holloway||reply 30||Last Tuesday at 9:30 AM|
If it happened between the 60s and 90s, DL cares about it.
|by N. Holloway||reply 31||Last Tuesday at 9:34 AM|
[quote] he was known to be good at knots tying and liked sex play.
Wait a minute! Don't try to surreptitiously turn this into another thread about Armie Hammer!
|by N. Holloway||reply 32||Last Tuesday at 9:42 AM|
The dad must have confided in someone,,,,his crime will come out some day.
|by N. Holloway||reply 33||Last Tuesday at 9:52 AM|
It was the soft butch sous chef.
|by N. Holloway||reply 34||Last Tuesday at 10:04 AM|
It's obvious when looking at pictures of Burke when he was a child that he was abused too. His abuse has to be tied up with the murder of his sister in some way.
|by N. Holloway||reply 35||Last Tuesday at 10:13 AM|
dr oz doing show on it now.....says new dna testing will show who did it...
i gots my doubts
|by N. Holloway||reply 36||Last Tuesday at 10:13 AM|
That lady cop who was at the house when jon benet was found, looking into john's eyes as he carried her upstairs, she said when their eyes locked, she knew who did it....infering it was HIM
|by N. Holloway||reply 37||Last Tuesday at 10:15 AM|
It could well have been suicide, for all we know. Sometimes little girls just garrotte themselves, especially when they've been naughty and eaten too much pineapple.
|by N. Holloway||reply 38||Last Tuesday at 10:15 AM|
r18 is being FORCED to read a thread on a topic HE'S ALREADY SEEN BEFORE!
How did that possibly happen? We all know the whole point of this forum is to provide him with constantly new material!
|by N. Holloway||reply 39||Last Tuesday at 10:16 AM|
Weird to see folks treat this topic humorously.....the child was murdered.
|by N. Holloway||reply 40||Last Tuesday at 10:18 AM|
but the note demanded a weird amount. It was the father's bonus pay from the company...who the fuck would know that? gotta be the mommy who wrote the note.
|by N. Holloway||reply 41||Last Tuesday at 10:27 AM|
John had been fucking her for years
|by N. Holloway||reply 42||Last Tuesday at 10:31 AM|
Frau cunt alert at r40
|by N. Holloway||reply 43||Last Tuesday at 11:10 AM|
r43, I was about to say the same thing. What a humorless beef curtain stinker.
|by N. Holloway||reply 44||Last Tuesday at 11:13 AM|
She'd be an Instagram thot with a YouTube channel and an MLM today
|by N. Holloway||reply 45||Last Tuesday at 11:30 AM|
R45 she'd be an OnlyFans slut thrice divorced with a tramp stamp and track marks
|by N. Holloway||reply 46||Last Tuesday at 1:37 PM|
It had to be either John or Patsy.
|by N. Holloway||reply 47||Last Tuesday at 1:42 PM|
I think the only reason the parents collude is to protect their son. If your spouse kills one of your children, why protect them? You'd live in fear for the rest of your life for the safety of the remaining child.
|by N. Holloway||reply 48||Last Tuesday at 1:47 PM|
[quote] Tragically, children get murdered every day in the US. Why was this case such a media sensation?
R19, I think it was the first time people were exposed to these kiddie pageants: post-toddler girls looking and acting like 40-year-old women. It really was a spectacle.
|by N. Holloway||reply 49||Last Tuesday at 1:51 PM|
[quote] its 2012 grow up or get out
|by N. Holloway||reply 50||Last Tuesday at 1:52 PM|
The parents did the ridiculous cover-up, somehow thinking that CO was going to send their 8 year old son to jail for accidentally clubbing his sister to death. But we all saw that the Ramsey's were capable to all kinds of stupid decisions.
|by N. Holloway||reply 51||Last Tuesday at 1:54 PM|
That house was peak 90s frau. God, it was hideous. Crammed full of horrid decor, very overdone.
|by N. Holloway||reply 52||Last Tuesday at 1:58 PM|
Fun DL Trivia - The attorney who represented Burke in his unsuccessful defamation lawsuit was Lin Wood, who recently would go on to nationally spout crazy pro-Trump election conspiracy theories.
|by N. Holloway||reply 53||Last Tuesday at 2:03 PM|
"It had to be either John or Patsy."
Or Burke or an intruder.
|by N. Holloway||reply 54||Last Tuesday at 5:52 PM|
Burke (on Dr. Phil) was fishy as hell.
John did not love Patsy, he had contempt for her. It was obvious from the body language in the interviews.
I do think Patsy wrote the War and Peace ransom note.
Who killed JB? I don't know.
|by N. Holloway||reply 55||Last Tuesday at 5:56 PM|
r54 it was either John or Patsy.
|by N. Holloway||reply 56||Last Tuesday at 6:07 PM|
Or John AND Patsy?
|by N. Holloway||reply 57||Last Tuesday at 6:24 PM|
It was a one-armed man seen in the area.
|by N. Holloway||reply 58||Last Tuesday at 6:29 PM|
R49: Sadly, she's a talentless hack, but dressed up in awful clothes and shaking her ass. It's initially quite funny and then really creepy. If the parents didn't kill her, they should still have been put away for exploiting her.
|by N. Holloway||reply 59||Last Tuesday at 6:30 PM|
Burke seems to have a sociopathic version of "gay face". Looks like he's never married.
|by N. Holloway||reply 60||Last Tuesday at 6:33 PM|
Does anyone know where Ted Cruz spent Christmas 1996?
|by N. Holloway||reply 61||Last Tuesday at 6:34 PM|
Who would marry him?!
|by N. Holloway||reply 62||Last Tuesday at 6:34 PM|
Has anybody asked Burke why he smeared his shit all over Jonbenet's room?
|by N. Holloway||reply 63||Last Tuesday at 6:35 PM|
They haven't had sex in years. Who was abusing the poor girl?
|by N. Holloway||reply 64||Last Tuesday at 6:38 PM|
Datalounge 1999 - It's like I never left
|by N. Holloway||reply 65||Last Tuesday at 6:40 PM|
[quote]Burke seems to have a sociopathic version of "gay face". Looks like he's never married.
What woman would want to marry Burke? Between his creepy ass and his creepy father, any woman would be scared for her life.
|by N. Holloway||reply 66||Last Tuesday at 7:24 PM|
Didn't Ted Bundy get married (and have a kid)?
|by N. Holloway||reply 67||Last Wednesday at 5:48 AM|
R29, everything about your post is idiotic. It’s mind blowing how stupid you come across on so many levels.
|by N. Holloway||reply 68||Last Wednesday at 5:54 AM|
|by N. Holloway||reply 69||Last Wednesday at 5:57 AM|
R63 tell us more about this incident!
|by N. Holloway||reply 70||Last Wednesday at 7:29 AM|
Mentally disturbed son accidentally kills their daughter. Dumb parents in a panic create ridiculous scenario to protect son. Pretty obvious in hindsight.
|by N. Holloway||reply 71||Last Wednesday at 7:35 AM|
she choked on a piece of pineapple.
|by N. Holloway||reply 72||Last Wednesday at 7:36 AM|
It was Miss Scarlett in the study with a candlestick!!!
|by N. Holloway||reply 73||Last Wednesday at 7:37 AM|
Lucy was gonna kill her, but Gary talked her out of it.
|by N. Holloway||reply 74||Last Wednesday at 7:37 AM|
Who do you think sexually assaulted her, though? Burke may have accidentally killed her, but I don't see him sexually assaulting her. (IIRC, autopsy said she had been sexually assaulted.)
|by N. Holloway||reply 75||Last Wednesday at 7:37 AM|
[quote] IIRC, autopsy said she had been sexually assaulted.
Incorrect. Abrasions of the mucosa but no sexual trauma.
|by N. Holloway||reply 76||Last Wednesday at 7:49 AM|
During the autopsy they also discovered she had two glass eyes.
|by N. Holloway||reply 77||Last Wednesday at 7:50 AM|
Ted Cruz killed her.
|by N. Holloway||reply 78||Last Wednesday at 7:50 AM|
Investigators found a pair of Burke's soiled pajama bottoms in Jonbenet's room. Feces had been smeared on the furniture and on a box of chocolates.
|by N. Holloway||reply 79||Last Wednesday at 7:55 AM|
Thanks, R76. I read that autopsy, but I wouldn't conclude that there was no sexual trauma. The autopsy contains a long paragraph describing different things re: genitalia (hyperemia and abrasion). Autopsy did conclude that there was no anal & perineal trauma.
I won't quote the whole long paragraph here.
|by N. Holloway||reply 80||Last Wednesday at 7:56 AM|
Burke had a secret retarded twin brother, Lurke, who'd often break out of his attic room and cause mischief.
|by N. Holloway||reply 81||Last Wednesday at 7:58 AM|
Burke was only eight years old at the time, he couldn't have been prosecuted. Why would John and Patsy need to protect him?
|by N. Holloway||reply 82||Last Wednesday at 8:16 AM|
If it had come out that Burke had done it, his life would be ruined, regardless of rehabilitation in psychiatric care. He'd have been infamous for having been found officially to have killed his sister; even worse after the story blew up. I think the parents wouldn't have been able to tolerate that blemish on his and their names.
|by N. Holloway||reply 83||Last Wednesday at 8:20 AM|
It's not unheard of for women to protect their partners after they murdered their child. If John went to prison his older children would have taken every penny he had. Patsy would lose her money and social status.
|by N. Holloway||reply 84||Last Wednesday at 8:23 AM|
Also, you really don't know what might have happened to Burke. There's no lower age limit on incarcerating someone. Yes, 8 is very low, but IIRC, 13-year-olds have been prosecuted as adults and put in prison. Star Jones bragged about doing that.
|by N. Holloway||reply 85||Last Wednesday at 8:23 AM|
Exactly R83. I’ve read so many stories about how the mother was way into her reputation and social status.
|by N. Holloway||reply 86||Last Wednesday at 8:25 AM|
Good points, r83 and r84. Patsy was so obsessed with her social status and position she would've done anything to keep it. It was really the most important thing in her life.
|by N. Holloway||reply 87||Last Wednesday at 8:27 AM|
"Foreign Faction" is out of print, no longer available on Kindle, and physical copies go for hundreds of dollars.
|by N. Holloway||reply 88||Last Wednesday at 8:53 AM|
I am obviously innocent and thus not an option in the bitch OP's poll.
|by N. Holloway||reply 89||Last Wednesday at 10:38 AM|
Nice try, R78.
I was in Cancun at the time.
|by N. Holloway||reply 90||Last Wednesday at 12:06 PM|
Whichever one of them actually killed her, they all knew about it. John probably devised the garrote, and Patsy wrote the note.
|by N. Holloway||reply 91||Last Wednesday at 12:48 PM|
r85 Burke was under 10 in Colorado at that time and couldn't have been prosecuted for anything. Some states have no age of accountability, some it's 12, some 8, etc.
|by N. Holloway||reply 92||Last Wednesday at 12:58 PM|
Ashes to ashes
Dust to dust
Pint-sized harlots pay
For daddy's lust!
|by N. Holloway||reply 93||Last Wednesday at 1:02 PM|
Wasn't there snow on the ground, so it would have been obvious if someone was sneaking around their house, trying to break in?
I wonder if she had a nickname, or if they always called her JonBenet.
|by N. Holloway||reply 94||Last Wednesday at 1:15 PM|
I'm trying to find a description of when her body was discovered. How did Patsy react?
|by N. Holloway||reply 95||Last Wednesday at 2:22 PM|
Patsy popped a bottle of bubbly.
|by N. Holloway||reply 96||Last Wednesday at 2:46 PM|
"Burke was under 10 in Colorado at that time"
Was he older in another state?
|by N. Holloway||reply 97||Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM|
[quote] I'm trying to find a description of when her body was discovered. How did Patsy react?
R95, police allowed the Ramseys to take part in a search of the house (for JB's body). On top of that, John, upon finding body in the basement, picked up the body and brought it upstairs, thus disturbing the crime scene. Not sure how Patsy reacted.
The cops were out of their depth and just plain dumb at times.
|by N. Holloway||reply 98||Last Wednesday at 3:34 PM|
What in the hell was up with that suitcase that was found in the basement? The one containing a blanket and a Dr. Seuss book. The blanket had seminal fluid on it which was identified as belonging to John's eldest son, John Andrew.
|by N. Holloway||reply 99||Last Wednesday at 5:37 PM|
I think the brother did it accidentally, don't think he meant to kill her. He was pissed she snatched a piece of pineapple from his bowl so he took the flashlight and smacked her over the head. He told the parents what happened, they couldn't rouse her, they feared for their son, so they staged the "kidnapping" to coverup for Burke. The agony of it all drove Patsy to an early grave.
|by N. Holloway||reply 100||Last Wednesday at 5:46 PM|
I don't think it was Burke. If it was, we never would have heard about this case, the police would have kept it quiet to protect a prominent family and Burke would have gone to therapy, that would be it.
On one of the many, many JonBenet threads someone laid out a convincing argument for the father being the killer.
|by N. Holloway||reply 101||Last Wednesday at 5:47 PM|
The brother killed her and the parents panicked, fearing for their family's reputation.
The dad staged it to look like a break in and sexual assault while the mom wrote the ransom letter.
Then the parents put up with all the speculative accusations towards themselves all those years to protect their son, and also they were invested in their story. They must've realized all their dumb cover-up mistakes very quickly, but it was too late to admit the truth. They were very shallow and vapid people obsessed with their image and status.
|by N. Holloway||reply 102||Last Wednesday at 5:49 PM|
The detective said the deadline in the ransom note came and went and the parents never noticed? She said John was "cordial." They split up to search the four-story house and John went right for the storage room where she was "discovered."
|by N. Holloway||reply 103||Last Wednesday at 5:49 PM|
It was Antifa and the radical left.
|by N. Holloway||reply 104||Last Wednesday at 5:51 PM|
r101 must have meant that we never would have heard about this case, if John and Patsy had done the sensible thing and taken their daughter to the hospital and explained Burke's accidental outburst on Christmas Eve. But they worried about the gossip in the community and instead staged an elaborate cover-up that exploded into worldwide attention.
|by N. Holloway||reply 105||Last Wednesday at 6:08 PM|
If Burke did it, how could a little boy have not told anyone? He was questioned by police.
|by N. Holloway||reply 106||Last Wednesday at 6:10 PM|
^ His parents warned him to never tell.
|by N. Holloway||reply 107||Last Wednesday at 6:12 PM|
It was the brother.
The crazy mother obviously wrote the note.
If it was one of the parents they would have turned on each other.
The thing I don't get though is the elaborately staged crime scene.
There was some sick stuff going on in that house.
|by N. Holloway||reply 108||Last Wednesday at 6:18 PM|
My nicknames for Jonbenet were Jonny B and Daddy's little tramp.
|by N. Holloway||reply 109||Last Wednesday at 6:24 PM|
A Charley Horse, Rose.
|by N. Holloway||reply 110||Last Wednesday at 6:32 PM|
John and Pasty were in separate rooms the whole morning which isn't typical behavior for parents of a missing child. When the body was discovered everybody ran to where John had placed it under the Christmas tree. Except Patsy who didn't get up from her chair and had to coaxed out by a friend. When Patsy saw the body she gave quite a performance, dropping to her knees and screaming "Please God, you raised Jesus! Raise my baby from the dead!"
|by N. Holloway||reply 111||Last Wednesday at 6:41 PM|
Yes, in addition to moving the body, I think the Ramseys put a blanket on the body as well. Totally contaminated the evidence. Cops allowed them to do all that.
|by N. Holloway||reply 112||Last Wednesday at 6:53 PM|
[quote]Feces had been smeared on the furniture and on a box of chocolates.
Forrest Gump did it.
|by N. Holloway||reply 113||Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM|
[quote]she's a talentless hack
Only on DL would a 6 year old be called a hack.
|by N. Holloway||reply 114||Last Wednesday at 9:41 PM|
WTF kind of hillbilly chic hick name is JonBenet with the faux French pronunciation?
|by N. Holloway||reply 115||Last Wednesday at 9:45 PM|
She was named after her father John Bennett.
|by N. Holloway||reply 116||Last Wednesday at 9:48 PM|
It really is a trashy name, r115.
|by N. Holloway||reply 117||Last Wednesday at 9:52 PM|
|by N. Holloway||reply 118||Last Wednesday at 10:00 PM|
Everything about her was trashy R117. The sleazy kiddie beauty pageants, the drag queen blonde hair, the creepy family, the white trash name with the pretentious pronunciation to make it sound "classy".
How is it that the One Million Cunt Moms, who protest over every imagined threat to their crotch droppings Jaydyn, Kaydyn, Madysynn, Kartwheel, Kymchie, Komboochai, Latte and Heavyn, remain silent about kid pageants with all the creepy pedo undertones?
|by N. Holloway||reply 119||Last Wednesday at 10:19 PM|
R115 is practicing incongruous accent aigu erasure! It's JonBenét and don’t you forgét it.
|by N. Holloway||reply 120||Last Wednesday at 11:53 PM|
[quote]”Foreign Faction" is out of print, no longer available on Kindle, and physical copies go for hundreds of dollars.
Someone wrote a summary on goodreads
|by N. Holloway||reply 121||Last Thursday at 2:31 AM|
The poor kid should have been playing with toys and rolling in the dirt instead of sitting still for hours while her mother treated her as a doll and forced her to play dress up and have make-up applied to her face.
|by N. Holloway||reply 122||Last Thursday at 7:28 AM|
It's surprising that the dads (John R.) of these pageant girls don't put a stop to it. My guess is that John had his own life, maybe a woman on the side, and wasn't paying that much attention to Patsy. Patsy maybe felt entitled to have this hobby of dressing up JB and parading her around, due to John being absentee, etc.
|by N. Holloway||reply 123||Last Thursday at 7:32 AM|
The only time John interfered was when Patsy wanted to take Jonbenet to Las Vegas for a pageant.
|by N. Holloway||reply 124||Last Thursday at 7:37 AM|
[quote]The agony of it all drove Patsy to an early grave.
On the plus side, it is quite a nice casket. Quite comfortable.
|by N. Holloway||reply 125||Last Thursday at 7:40 AM|
The Ramseys were such "white trash with money," everything about them was so tacky.
|by N. Holloway||reply 126||Last Thursday at 8:45 AM|
I believe it was Burke, by accident obviously. But the cover up was over the top.
On a side note, the detective assigned that morning was less than reassuring. Sanpaku crazy eyes.
|by N. Holloway||reply 127||Last Thursday at 8:48 AM|
Didn't the Ramsey's live like pigs? I remember reading something about how the house was dirty and unkempt.
|by N. Holloway||reply 128||Last Thursday at 8:50 AM|
Regarding the pageants, Patsy was raised in the same way, on the pageant circuit. From the one book I read on the case, it sounded like Patsy's mother was batshit. It was impossible to have a back and forth linear conversation with her. She just went into rants that may/may not have had anything to do with the proposed questions.
|by N. Holloway||reply 129||Last Thursday at 9:02 AM|
R128 Linda Hoffman Pugh was quoted in ‘Perfect Murder Perfect Town’ as saying she always had to wipe peanut butter off the counters when she arrived on Monday mornings to clean. Hoffman Pugh also said that Nedra, Patsy’s mother, would chide Patsy about the messy house saying “Linda’s not here to pick up, Linda’s here to clean.”
|by N. Holloway||reply 130||Last Thursday at 9:38 AM|
Thanks R88, I'm going to put my copy of Foreign Faction on Ebay!
|by N. Holloway||reply 131||Last Thursday at 11:53 AM|
Hilary Clinton and the Democratic Pizza Cabal Ring.
Didn't you ever hear of pineapple pizza?
|by N. Holloway||reply 132||Last Thursday at 12:15 PM|
Captain Kangaroo, Rose!
|by N. Holloway||reply 133||Last Thursday at 12:15 PM|
Do any of the poor kids who are sent on the child pageant circuit by their psycho, famewhore parents ever grow up to be well-adjusted, intelligent adults? How do they get over such a fucked up childhood and parents encouraging their own little children to behave like tiny sluts?
|by N. Holloway||reply 134||Last Thursday at 12:22 PM|
[quote]Who killed JonBenet Ramsey?
This is what you're fixated on?
I've got a stain on my carpet and no one wants to come to my Christmas parties!
Get a fuckin' life!
|by N. Holloway||reply 135||Last Thursday at 12:25 PM|
Who cares? She'd be way too old for the pageant circuit now anyway!
|by N. Holloway||reply 136||Last Thursday at 12:27 PM|
Pageants should be outlawed for girls under 14 (high school age). Pageants are for mothers to compete with each other while living vicariously through their children. The children are likely bored out of their minds. All the pageant training, and getting dressed and made-up wastes to much time. It cuts into play time and socialization time, but it also cuts into school and study time. It's a horrible lesson to teach little girls that they should focus on their looks above all else.
|by N. Holloway||reply 137||Last Thursday at 12:48 PM|
Given that the crime has never been officially solved. Will the police open a cold case review?
|by N. Holloway||reply 138||Last Thursday at 12:55 PM|
Answer: All three family members took part in the JonBenet's murder.
|by N. Holloway||reply 139||Last Thursday at 1:00 PM|
Has anyone considered that maybe it was a suicide?
|by N. Holloway||reply 140||Last Thursday at 1:01 PM|
A prosecutor formally exonerated the Ramseys & even apologized to them. There was criticism:
[quote] Former Adams County DA Bob Grant, one of a number of consultants on the case brought in early on by the Boulder County DA at the time, Hunter, told ABC News he was confounded by Lacy's 2008 decision. "This is craziness," he said. "This is not what prosecutors do. If prosecutors are going to exonerate someone they do it by charging someone else."
This exonerating prosecutor sounds slightly nutty:
[quote] "Here’s what I was doing with the exoneration letter," Lacy explained. "I was trying to prevent a horrible travesty of justice. I was scared to death that despite the fact that there was no evidence, no psychopathy and no motive, the case was a train going down the track and the Ramseys were tied to that track."
|by N. Holloway||reply 141||Last Thursday at 1:05 PM|
I didn't realise their house was so huge!
|by N. Holloway||reply 142||Last Thursday at 1:21 PM|
They always blame the patsy
|by N. Holloway||reply 143||Last Thursday at 1:33 PM|
R142 i was surprised at the square footage.
As an aside, John thought it was a violation of privacy that the local paper printed, in the real estate transactions section, how much they had paid for that house.
|by N. Holloway||reply 144||Last Thursday at 1:34 PM|
I don’t think John’s life is so charmed these days.
|by N. Holloway||reply 145||Last Thursday at 6:15 PM|
Did John have a man on the side or was he strictly hetero?
|by N. Holloway||reply 146||Last Thursday at 8:42 PM|
That house would have been a nightmare to clean!
|by N. Holloway||reply 147||Last Thursday at 9:57 PM|
^i think the housekeeper came in 3 days a week. Plus, she snd herfamily helped on other occasions. I know Patsy had them bring the Christmas trees from the basement on Thanksgiving weekend in 1996
|by N. Holloway||reply 148||Yesterday at 2:48 AM|
Patsy seemed to behave, dress, decorate etc. in the manner she 'thought' rich people lived, with little class or genuine style and taste of her own? Small town social climbing frau, no?
|by N. Holloway||reply 149||Yesterday at 3:06 AM|
R134 I've always thought that someone should do a doc on teenage and older girls that had gone through the circuit. What was their perspective on things once they had some time away from it?
|by N. Holloway||reply 150||a day ago|
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