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Is Orlando Bloom white or Mexican?

Poll below.

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by Anonymousreply 89Last Saturday at 7:16 AM

He looks Mestizo.

by Anonymousreply 102/21/2021

Mexican is not a race you fucking idiot. Many Mexicans are white.

by Anonymousreply 202/21/2021

A better question, will he walk around with his phat ass hanging out again when the weather warms up?

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by Anonymousreply 302/21/2021

Orland Bloom

by Anonymousreply 402/21/2021

I thought he's part Indian. His mother is from India, British Raj colonial family, but yeah, he looks a bit mixed.

by Anonymousreply 502/21/2021

Always assumed he had some Pikey in him. He has the dark Traveller look.

He’s over, whatever he is.

by Anonymousreply 602/21/2021

Oh good. Another race-baiting thread.

by Anonymousreply 702/21/2021

He's an alien, his dong is too otherworldly massive for human!

But OP is a fat, ugly and unloved racialist crackscum.

by Anonymousreply 802/21/2021
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by Anonymousreply 902/21/2021

Orlando Bloom is Claire Bloom's grandson.

Orlando's brother does porn using the stage name 'Christopher Saint'

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by Anonymousreply 1002/21/2021

I can't believe over 30% of you silly people have voted "Mexican" in the poll.

by Anonymousreply 1102/21/2021

He's a white English dude. Believe it or not. Dark hair and brown eyes are the most common trait even in Europe and all ethnic groups have genetic diversity even the most isolated can show a wide range of phenotypes. He's no more ethnic looking than David Mitchell, Russell Brand, Victoria Beckham or Kiera Knightley

by Anonymousreply 1202/21/2021

Mexicans are white

by Anonymousreply 1302/21/2021

Leave me out of this

by Anonymousreply 1402/21/2021

Americans tend to not understand that most people rather identify with the culture or nationality they are born into rather than race (which isn't even a real thing). That's because The US was built on genocide, slavery and racial division. It's so deeply ingrained into the American mindset to suspect any white person with somewhat dark features of being mixed because of the one-drop rule and many mixed-race people passing for white.

by Anonymousreply 1502/21/2021

dat ass is black

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by Anonymousreply 1602/21/2021

[quote]That's because The US was built on genocide, slavery and racial division.

As opposed to Europe, which didn't have hundreds of years of imperial rule over the majority of the world, including mass enslavement of indigenous peoples. Bitch, please.

by Anonymousreply 1702/21/2021

OP, he is Mexican. His original name was Orlando Ballesteros Vegas. The "Orlando" is because his parents conceived him there while on a trip to Disney World with his older siblings.

by Anonymousreply 1802/21/2021

Is he wearing “In-N-Out” socks in the picture at r3?

by Anonymousreply 1902/21/2021

Sigh. Once more, with feeling. Spaniards are Western European, and therefore white. While they colonized numerous countries with darker-skinned indigenous people, who ended up being lumped in as "Hispanic" as well, their ancestry is simply not the same as those from places such as Africa and South Asia (or Asia, period). This is pretty much the only reason why assholes like Ted "Cancun" Cruz and Marco Rubio were elected: despite their surnames, they view themselves as white, as do their (white conservative) constituents.

That said, race and ethnicity are not the same and never will be. Darker-skinned POC have suffered discrimination for centuries, and it's stating the obvious that this includes scores of Hispanics in America. THAT said, this is a stupid discussion given that Orlando Bloom is British & plainly looks it.

by Anonymousreply 2002/21/2021

R17 It's true that Western Europe colonized most of the world. The US, Latin America, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand were colonies created to enrich Western Europe and involved mass genocide and displacement of the indigenous populations. But The US split away early from England and kept slavery running far longer than Europe did (except for Russia's serfdom). The US put in a strict racial caste system and a system of racial disenfranchisement to keep black people poor after slavery ended in 1865. The fact it took an entire Civil War to end slavery while many European countries just ended it with no conflict says a lot. The US was very dependent on slave labor and oppression of black people to keep its economy going and the government only decided to end that because they found industrialization to be more economically effective. England ended slavery very early and industrialized earlier too. But despite ending slavery, the Southern states still wanted to keep the hierarchy in check especially after they suffered a huge financial loss. The mass disenfranchisement of African Americans only ended officially in 1964 and even then many parts of Southern US was still segregated socially into the 1970s. Black people in Europe were not treated anywhere close to how poorly they were treated in The US, Caribbean and Latin America. There was a reason many African-Americans went to The UK, France and even Russia in the 20th century.

by Anonymousreply 2102/21/2021

Is Orlando Bloom white, or American?

by Anonymousreply 2202/21/2021

Jaysus, I’m tired of this White adjacent troll. Always the same thing. Not much different than the Klan grannies.

by Anonymousreply 2302/21/2021

I do find that many English are surprisingly dark-haired and dark-eyed contrary to the stereotype that they have to be fair-haired, freckled and blue-eyed. If you look at a lot of old portraits many have that dark hair and brown eyed look but still with milky skin, long nose and thin lips. Shakespeare, John Donne and many of the early American settlers have that look. So it's not a phenotype that came from any recent mixture. If anything it could have been the original look of the British Islanders before the Vikings, Romans and Germanic tribes came.

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by Anonymousreply 2402/21/2021

[quote] dat ass is black

His ass can't be black - it cracked.

by Anonymousreply 2502/21/2021

[quote]The mass disenfranchisement of African Americans only ended officially in 1964 and even then many parts of Southern US was still segregated socially into the 1970s.

Wow, really? Gosh, I had no idea, despite my double major in history & government at an Ivy. Thank you for enlightening me!

[quote]England ended slavery very early and industrialized earlier too.

You appear to be conflating England with Great Britain, but regardless, it had de facto slaves – working for shillings a day and/or under indentured servitude guises, with no choice in the matter unless they wanted their families to starve – all the way through the first half of the 20th century. (In other words, a variation on the "why buy milk when you can have it for free" cliche.) Many of these oppressed people later migrated to the UK, where they currently serve mainly as second-class citizens and are subject to routine racism / nationalism / police mistreatment – sound familiar? The biggest difference is merely an ethnic one: white Brits harbor brazen racism primarily towards "Pakis," but also Indian & Bangladeshi immigrants who've long had next to zero class mobility and routinely treated as second-class citizens.

Roughly the same story with the French and its growing numbers of Arab residents, most of whom have been ghettoized in a part of Paris where white people are effectively nonexistent. (Yet again: sound familiar?) And I'll assume you at least know about the right-wing nightmares going on in places like Hungary & Poland.

[quote]The US put in a strict racial caste system and a system of racial disenfranchisement to keep black people poor after slavery ended in 1865. The fact it took an entire Civil War to end slavery while many European countries just ended it with no conflict says a lot.

You know what also says a lot? The fact that it took these ostensibly "enlightened" European countries another 100 years to free all of their various colonies, where human-rights abuses were once rampant – and only because Western Europe was decimated by WWII, forcing them to give literal billions of oppressed POC liberation from imperial control.

But sure, keep telling yourself racism is only an American construct if you need a scapegoat.

by Anonymousreply 2602/21/2021

R26 You're right. But I'm American so I'm guilty of seeing things from an American POV and focusing on black issues. I wasn't trying to be condescending though.

by Anonymousreply 2702/21/2021

Whatever he is he's gorgeous. And his body is perfection. Nicely muscled and well proportioned for a guy his height.

by Anonymousreply 2802/21/2021

R28 Agree he's hot as fuck. I like him better with the dark hair. I didn't find him attractive at all in LOTR. I would would a threesome with Orlando and Colin Farrell.

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by Anonymousreply 2902/21/2021

[quote] England ended slavery very early and industrialized earlier too. But despite ending slavery, the Southern states still wanted to keep the hierarchy in check especially after they suffered a huge financial loss.

If European countries had as many blacks as the US had, you better believe the same things would've happened in Europe too.

by Anonymousreply 3002/21/2021

[quote] Black people in Europe were not treated anywhere close to how poorly they were treated in The US, Caribbean and Latin America.

Because they were more or less an anomaly. There very very, very few of them in Europe.

by Anonymousreply 3102/21/2021

[quote] Because they were more or less an anomaly. There very very, very few of them in Europe.

Yes and there is several paintings of Africans serving as saints, nobles and merchants in Medieval Europe too. They weren't seen as inferior until the concept of scientific racism in the 1800s. But even still many African-Americans artists toured throughout Europe like Jimi Hendrix, Josephine Baker, Nina Simone and Paul Robeson and they felt more welcomed there than in The US.

Wouldn't it be more apt to say that Jews and Roma people who were a larger and visible minority were the ones who were systemically oppressed and not allowed to assimilate throughout Europe quite similar to African-Americans in the US?

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by Anonymousreply 3202/21/2021

Jews were still merchants, bankers etc. in Europe. They weren't totally disenfranchised.

by Anonymousreply 3302/21/2021

This question matters only to the Klansmen and Klanswomen trying to stir up hate.

by Anonymousreply 3402/21/2021

[quote]I do find that many English are surprisingly dark-haired and dark-eyed contrary to the stereotype that they have to be fair-haired, freckled and blue-eyed.

????

English people known for being fair haired, freckled and blue-eyed...? Are you thinking of Scottish people?

by Anonymousreply 3502/21/2021

The best answer from that Yahoo Answers thread:

[quote] hes a teabag

And it got four downvotes! What the hell is a "teabag"?

by Anonymousreply 3602/21/2021

Katy Perry is one a lucky bitch. How does she manage to get so much hot dick? She's average as fuck without all that makeup and she seems dry and boring personality-wise.

by Anonymousreply 3702/21/2021

Orlando’s brother makes gay porn? Why that is just silly.

by Anonymousreply 3802/21/2021

That is a fantastic ass (and those are fantastic legs) at r3.

by Anonymousreply 3902/21/2021

R24/R35 very broadly and simplistically, one could split the native ‘English’ phenotype of today into a few groups by examining appearance.

Like Bloom, there’s the distinctly ‘Celt’-looking (taking ‘Celt’ to mean any of the tribes of Britain present during or before the Roman invasion), who appear either pale or ruddy and dusky, fine-featured, often compact or short but not always, and typically reddish or dark-haired/sleek or curly-headed—perhaps even ‘Welsh’-looking—with fine dark hair on their bodies.

Then there’s also the distinctly Anglo-Saxon-looking descendants, who have pale but warm-toned skin, and are sturdy and tall but graceful and long of limb, fair with straw-like hair and often light-eyes, ‘fleshy’ Teutonic-looking build, and sparse body hair.

And there’s the distinctly Viking-looking descendants, who are usually ghostly pale (almost a translucent milk-white/blue), of broad strong muscular build and often tall, with coarse & thick ginger or blond hair (hirsute and all over the body) and light eyes.

It should be noted that occupying Normans left almost no genetic trace on the islands, as their conquest was not enduring enough and they made a point not to interbreed with the natives. As such, there is little French ancestry in the genetic makeup of the English, though there are traces in some of the landed gentry.

by Anonymousreply 4002/22/2021

Orlando is from Slovenia. He was an orphan adopted by the British. He is Eastern European mixed with the Mongols, a warrior race, and then his Mongol father raped a Slovenian woman who was a friend of my great grandmother . He has Slovenian mother, hence he is Slovenian. This is a superior superior bloodline. Only few of us have such a blood line. He also has a beautiful Penis which is a feature of such a blood line. I would like very much to have a personal meeting with him to discuss his ancestry. There is good possibility he is from the same superior bloodline as my own family.

by Anonymousreply 4102/22/2021

[quote]Jews were still merchants, bankers etc. in Europe. They weren't totally disenfranchised.

They were forced to be since they weren't allowed to be in other businesses dating back hundreds of years.

And the Nazi's killed 2/3's of the Jewish population in Europe. I'd call that "disenfranchised".

by Anonymousreply 4202/22/2021

I don’t think Orlando is ethnically Jewish. His stepfather was Jewish.

by Anonymousreply 4302/22/2021

Orlando Bloom is British.

by Anonymousreply 4402/22/2021

r42 Jews were in Europe for many centuries before the Nazis took over. They were hardly treated like blacks in America. Yes there were the pogroms and discrimination but they weren't slaves or shut out of all facets of society like American blacks were.

by Anonymousreply 4502/22/2021

Bloom was born on 13 January 1977 in Canterbury, Kent, and was named after the 16th-century English composer Orlando Gibbons.[4][5] He has an older sister, Samantha Bloom.[6]

It should be perfectly obvious through five seconds of research who and what he is:

".Bloom was born on 13 January 1977 in Canterbury, Kent, and was named after the 16th-century English composer Orlando Gibbons.[4][5] He has an older sister, Samantha Bloom.[6] Orlando initially believed that his biological father was his mother's husband, the South African-born anti-apartheid novelist Harry Bloom (1913–1981), who died when Bloom was four years old. However, when he was thirteen, Bloom's mother revealed to him that his biological father was actually Colin Stone, his mother's partner and family friend.[7][8][9] Stone, the principal of the Concorde International language school,[10] became Orlando Bloom's legal guardian after Harry Bloom's death.[9]

Bloom's mother, Sonia Constance Josephine (née Copeland), was born in Kolkata, India, the daughter of Francis John Copeland, a physician and surgeon, and Betty Constance Josephine (née Walker). Through her, Bloom is a cousin of photographer Sebastian Copeland.[11][12] Bloom's mother's family lived in Tasmania (Australia), Japan, and India, and were of English descent, some of them having originally come from Kent.[7]

Bloom was brought up in the Church of England.[13] He attended St Peter's Methodist Primary School,[14] then the junior school of the King's School before proceeding to St Edmund's School in Canterbury. Bloom was discovered to be dyslexic,[9][15] and was encouraged by his mother to take art and drama classes.[9] After being spurred into action following his school prize submission to panto actor Richard Sieben in 1992, in 1993, he moved to London to follow a two-year A Level course in Drama, Photography and Sculpture at Fine Arts College, Hampstead. He then joined the National Youth Theatre, spending two seasons there and earning a scholarship to train at the British American Drama Academy.[16] Bloom began acting professionally with television roles in episodes of Casualty and Midsomer Murders,[9] and subsequently made his film debut in Wilde (1997), opposite Stephen Fry, before entering the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in London, where he studied acting.[17]"

He's English, he's White, and Christian. The father whose name he carries was part of a Jewish South African family, but Harold Bloom wasn't Orlando's biological father.

It may come as a shock to you, OP, but the entire Caucasian bloc is not made up solely of people with blonde hair and blue eyes.

Bloom is a thorough-going, bona fide White Englishman. Eat it.

by Anonymousreply 4602/22/2021

The astonishing number of you race trolls who made up nearly 30% of the poll citing Bloom as Mexican without doing an iota of research should get a month's detention in the office of Dolores Umbridge.

by Anonymousreply 4702/22/2021

R18 - I trust you were being ironic?

by Anonymousreply 4802/22/2021

He's no more "exotic" than Kate Beckinsale, Lily Allen, Victoria Adams-Beckham, Keira Knightley, Adam Ant, Russell Brand, Rowan Atkinson, George Harrison and Miss - whatever her last name is - Cheryl.

Orlando likes to tan and hang out at the beach. He tans better because he has more melanin hence dark hair and eyes. It's just genetic expression.

by Anonymousreply 4902/22/2021

Lots of Brits are swarthy.

by Anonymousreply 5002/22/2021

Famous Englishman George Harrison was swarthy. He tanned better than Orlando

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by Anonymousreply 5102/22/2021

David Mitchell from Peep Show. He plays the most stereotypically British person ever and he has dark hair and eyes.

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by Anonymousreply 5202/22/2021

DL's definition of white gets narrower and narrower. At some point, who will be left?

by Anonymousreply 5302/22/2021

[quote] At some point, who will be left?

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by Anonymousreply 5402/22/2021

The concept of white Latinos seems to be lost here too. Apparently all those settlers and immigrants of Spanish, Portuguese, French, English, Canary Islander, Jewish, German, Polish, Italian, Lebanese, Arab and Irish somehow mysteriously disappeared. And those blonde-haired and blue-eyed actors on the covers of Latin magazines and starring in Telenovelas are "people of color".

by Anonymousreply 5502/22/2021

What a stupid thread. What i think is throwing off these idiots is that his name is “Orlando” a name usually associated Romance languages. FFS.

by Anonymousreply 5602/22/2021

My imaginary boyfriend/cum dumpster Tom Cullen is Irish/English and quite dark and swarthy, he could pass for Spanish.

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by Anonymousreply 5702/22/2021

Tom Ellis, not lily white but still British

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by Anonymousreply 5802/22/2021

I really love dark hair, dark eyes and olive skin. I find people with more melanin tend to age better. Sean Connery (RIP) is still the sexiest Bond and Catherine Zeta Jones and Monica Bellucci were extremely beautiful when young and still look pretty good.

by Anonymousreply 5902/22/2021

I heard he's blatino.

by Anonymousreply 6002/22/2021

I heard that he is a proud Zulu warrior.

by Anonymousreply 6102/22/2021

[quote] Catherine Zeta Jones and Monica Bellucci were extremely beautiful when young and still look pretty good

Thank you! It’s not easy for a woman in her mid-30s to hold it together. I appreciate it.

❤️,

by Anonymousreply 6202/22/2021

Where the hell did the race trolls who frequent DL get the idea that denizens of the British Isles are "other race" if they don't look like Diana Spencer?!

Ever hear of the Picts in Northern Scotland?

Ever travel to the areas of western Ireland that weren't settled by the Vikings, like Dublin and Cork.

Is Aidan Turner "Mexican"? Was Sean Connery "Mexican"? Was Tyrone fucking Power?!

Jesus, you'd think one would be embarrassed to reveal to the world what an imbecile one is.

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by Anonymousreply 6302/22/2021

The Mail's headline on the article about the Spotify video was a true DM gem: "Singing for their Supper".

by Anonymousreply 6402/22/2021

^* Ooops, apologies, wrong thread!

I got so addled by that image of Aidan Turner I didn't know what I was doing.

by Anonymousreply 6502/22/2021

So people keep saying Orlando's film career is dead and Katy's music career is too. How will get keep the income coming for their child? Plus Orlando has a kid from a previous relationship.

by Anonymousreply 6602/22/2021

Well, after being outed on DL as a bona fide White Boy from Kent, England, there goes Orlando's chance to revive his career playing Bernardo in the next revival of "West Side Story".

by Anonymousreply 6702/22/2021

Hola, Senor Turner, mi amor!

by Anonymousreply 6802/22/2021

Orlando with his African mother

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by Anonymousreply 6902/22/2021

"Ever travel to the areas of western Ireland that weren't settled by the Vikings, like Dublin and Cork."

To clarify this sentence, it should have read, "Ever travel to the areas of western Ireland that weren't settled by the Vikings, as Dublin and Cord were?"

R63

by Anonymousreply 7002/22/2021

^* Damn it all - Cork, not Cord

by Anonymousreply 7102/22/2021

R70

Thank you for the translation. We would have never known what that foreign language was.

by Anonymousreply 7202/22/2021

He looks great at R69.

by Anonymousreply 7302/22/2021

Well OP, I can tell you that he has his natal Moon the 8th House in Libra, which I only know from an astrology-matching quiz that I took online for time-killing fun many years ago (turns out me and him the same natal moon).

It’s fresh Hell, and we in it.

[quote] Libra in the 8th House: These people tend to attract a lot of Venusian energy into their relationships. They welcome romantic feelings but have a fear of true emotional intimacy, especially when it comes to uncovering weaknesses and flaws. They don't want anyone, especially loved ones to "look under the rug". Acceptance and self-discovery is really needed here. Some with this can hide in their independence and desire for space from intimacy, hoping no one gets too close or see's their blemishes. But partnerships are something they crave. They may see romantic relationships as the only space to show and have intimacy. As partners, they bring such charm, seductiveness which makes everyone fall at their feet..and then, of course, like a typical Libran they find it impossible to choose a suitor! People with this placement have got a lot of subtle but potent influence on other people through one on one interactions. They have the power of attracting anyone into their lives and easing their emotional burdens as well. The cost of this ability, though, is that if they are not careful with their intentions about the core reason why they want to have an influence on this particular person they might take on their bad karma as their own. They might feel an intense bond with almost everybody in their lives, and this will take a toll on them psychologically. They are likely to have people obsess over them, or perhaps they themselves might obsess over being liked by everyone. They are passionate about peace and harmony because it gives them security, and so unfortunately are willing to do anything in order to maintain it—-even if it means sacrificing some integrity or free will. Frankly, the native is a people-pleaser by habit, but with experience and lessons learned can overcome this to find peace for themselves, and possibly for a significant other too.

by Anonymousreply 7402/22/2021

He doesn't appear to be Clair Blooms grandson. I had to look it up because that assertion sounded non sensical. Same way I have the same surname , but am not related to either James, Bobby or Gordon Brown.

by Anonymousreply 7502/22/2021

Native Americans were the first group of people to occupy this land. Most Mexicans have some native blood in them. So do many Americans. Mexicans have Spanish and Portuguese blood too. As many of us do. I don't know how you separate the groups. We're all the same.

by Anonymousreply 7602/22/2021

I disagree about most Americans. In Mexico, the Spanish encouraged intermarriage between Spanish men and Native women due to the lack of Spanish women being present. The Native tribes in Mexico were never fully eradicated either and the Catholic Church just encouraged them to assimilate and convert to Catholic. The French similarly encouraged intermarriage between French men and African women in Haiti and Louisiana and between French men and Native women in Quebec.

While the English settlers in North America brought women with them and they were heavily opposed to intermarriage with Native Americans and preferred to get rid of them instead. English settlers were hardcore Protestants and saw the Native Americans as vermin beyond redemption. The Native population was pushed Westward in the early 1800s. They were very strict laws in The US that made any intermarriage illegal and mixed children would be placed as nonwhite and not allowed much opportunities. So African-Americans and Native Americans have a fair amount of European blood but most white Americans are predominately to completely European. And a large percentage can trace their ancestry to immigrants who came after the Civil War like Germans and Irish Catholics. If there is any nonwhite blood it will likely be African and in the South like Louisiana or Mississippi. The only areas that probably would have white Americans with any Native American blood would be Oklahoma or some Western state.

by Anonymousreply 7702/22/2021

R46- Plenty of Germans are swarthy.

by Anonymousreply 7802/22/2021

[quote]Jews were in Europe for many centuries before the Nazis took over. They were hardly treated like blacks in America. Yes there were the pogroms and discrimination but they weren't slaves or shut out of all facets of society like American blacks were.

Except when they were expelled from Austria 1421 England 1290 France 1394 Hungary1349 Lithuania 1495 Milan 1597 Naples 1510 Nuremburg 1499 Portugal 1497 Sicily 1492 Spain 1492 Spain in 1492

Variously banned from owning land, restricted to very few jobs, pogroms, blood libels, and forced conversions. Were they owned by other people, not since Roman times, but they were shut out of most facets of society in Europe for over a thousand years.

by Anonymousreply 7902/22/2021

R77 = Racist Troll

by Anonymousreply 8002/23/2021

I've always found Orlando Bloom vapid probably because he is such a bad actor.

by Anonymousreply 8102/23/2021

R80 Nope just someone who knows the history of The US and the laws that were passed to prevent racial mixing due to white supremacy.

by Anonymousreply 8202/23/2021

[quote]English settlers were hardcore Protestants and saw the Native Americans as vermin beyond redemption.

You're wrong about this, R82. Some may have seen them that way, but there were also serious missions and settlements of "praying Indians." Roger Williams's work was actually in response to the predominant idea that Native Americans had to be converted (though he certainly saw them as redeemable—he just believed it should be their own choice). And English settlers out west did have children with Native American women.

by Anonymousreply 8302/23/2021

[quote]They were very strict laws in The US that made any intermarriage illegal and mixed children would be placed as nonwhite and not allowed much opportunities.

Most states had no laws concerning intermarriage with Indigenous Americans.

States that had anti-miscegenation laws with Indigenous Peoples and the year they were repealed:

Maine - 1883

Massachusetts - 1843

Rhode Island - 1881

Washington - 1868

Nevada - 1959

Oregon - 1959

Laws in these states were rendered unconstitutional in 1967:

Georgia

South Carolina

Virginia

by Anonymousreply 8402/23/2021

The English men in North America didn't intermarry with the Indigenous women like the Spanish men did. Shiploads of young English women were brought over for the sold purpose of procreating with the male English settlers.

by Anonymousreply 8502/23/2021

Now up to 31.4 percent Mexican in the poll. Ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 8602/23/2021

Orlando is Melungeon.

by Anonymousreply 8702/24/2021

I thought he was of the Race of Elves?

by Anonymousreply 88Last Saturday at 2:49 AM

[quote] I thought he was of the Race of Elves?

Guh-nome.

by Anonymousreply 89Last Saturday at 7:16 AM
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