Nomadland is available on Hulu
|by Anonymous||reply 72||10 hours ago|
It's really boring.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||02/19/2021|
Yes the poors and their sad lives are such a tedious topic.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||02/19/2021|
here is something I just learnt, apparently Amazon pays its warehouse workforce for their RV park stay, or offers huge discount, if they stop working for Amazon warehouse, the RV park will charge them $300.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||02/19/2021|
I can’t wait to see this.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||02/19/2021|
Frances should present her frau dong as she seems to have it naturally. All the grumpiness and bitterness in all her performances, it must be real.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||02/19/2021|
I am going to see it in IMAX
|by Anonymous||reply 6||02/19/2021|
I hope no-one spoils the big twist for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||02/19/2021|
The frontal nude?
|by Anonymous||reply 8||02/19/2021|
I loved this movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||02/19/2021|
She needs to do a comedy.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||02/19/2021|
^^She tried and it was awful - Burn Before Reading
|by Anonymous||reply 11||02/19/2021|
interesting, I thought she would be great in a comedy, she has that bitterness "bitch" face, "be careful when you talk to me...." I still remember the diner scene from Fargo, the interaction between her and the Japanese guy is quite funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||02/19/2021|
Was it good?
|by Anonymous||reply 13||02/19/2021|
Does Frances deserve that third Oscar for the performance? I'm definitely gonna watch when I get out of work
|by Anonymous||reply 14||02/19/2021|
Signed up for Hulu to watch this, but I wonder what their strategy was in licensing it? There isn’t much in their catalog to appeal to the audience for this movie (NPR listeners).
|by Anonymous||reply 15||02/19/2021|
Loved her in small comedic parts in something’s gotta give and friends with money.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||02/19/2021|
Profoundly reflective and meditative: subtle yet deeply moving. As always, Frances McDormand is exquisite.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||02/19/2021|
She can do no wrong in my book. I even loved her opposite Bale in Laurel Canyon. She pulled off sexy rocker, which I never imagined.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||02/19/2021|
How is David Strathairn?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||02/19/2021|
R19 He’s good. He’s not in it much, though. This is Frannie’s show.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||02/19/2021|
McDormand is stellar (though this is her wheelhouse). I'd probably prefer to see Mulligan win rather than give McDormand her third, but it's a worthy performance.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||02/19/2021|
R12 She can be bitingly funny.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||02/19/2021|
It's really good, I have watched it a few times now. I admire the resilience of these people, most of the characters in the film are real "nomads" using their real names, only McDormand and David Strathairn (and David's son) are professional actors. But what I like the most about the film is the subtle theme of longing, belonging and disappointment in life, not just "normads" life, the life in general, I think many people here on DL can relate to that.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||02/19/2021|
R23 It reminded me a bit of Sean Penn’s severely underrated “Into the Wild.” Both are films I can revisit repeatedly and endlessly get lost in.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||02/19/2021|
I liked it much is this really an Oscar frontrunner?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||02/19/2021|
I liked the character. I thought the movie was uneven. The monologues by each person they wanted to showcase was a bit much for me. I also found Linda May more effective than Swankie.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||02/19/2021|
R24 I watched “Into the Wild" years ago and I also read some articles about the guy and the background. But in my opinion, it's still a guy bored of living a privileged life, like "darfur orphan" troll would comment - first world problem! I know my words may sound harsh, but I really couldn't find a better way to describe him, he had everything going on for him, and he chose to abandon the material world to pursue this idealist life.... all these are perfectly fine, if he was ok with it then who are we to judge here, I could even draw my inspiration from the "simple" life he wanted to live, but the only reason it ended in a tragedy was because he was ill prepared. Also I am not sure the conversations or the public interests inspired by his life would be ok with him, since he didn't want to be associated with the abundant society, and he tried to maintain a minimum or no connections with other people.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||02/20/2021|
I agree with R17 and R23. It’s very moving and would be a very worthy Best Picture.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||02/20/2021|
I thought it was going to be more hard hitting than it was. The overall if unintended impression it leaves is of quirky old white misfits out on their own pursuing their dreams. There’s no conflict at all. Gorgeous to look at though.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||02/20/2021|
Oh - one of my ex sons in law is in this. Pass.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||02/20/2021|
R30 Which one? You have a number don't you!
|by Anonymous||reply 31||02/20/2021|
yep, which one? R30
|by Anonymous||reply 32||02/20/2021|
|by Anonymous||reply 33||02/20/2021|
This is a beautiful film. Francis was wonderful, and I was impressed with all the non-professional actors. The film was able to show the loneliness and emptiness of America today, with our fractured communities and the deep loneliness many people are experiencing today. We are seeking a sense of belonging in our own way.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||02/20/2021|
McDormand was wonderful, and she has a very good chance of becoming only the second woman to have won three Best Actress Oscars, ahead of Streep. She was beautifully restrained, listening respectfully to others instead of calling attention to herself. Meryl would have been unable to do that—she’d have given us all manner of tics and facial expressions.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||Last Sunday at 3:44 AM|
I want Frannie McD. to win Oscah!
|by Anonymous||reply 36||Last Sunday at 4:50 AM|
[quote] She tried and it was awful - Burn Before Reading
She’s hilarious in Raising Arizona.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||Last Sunday at 4:54 AM|
McDormand is aggressively homely, and seems to enjoy playing it up.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||Last Sunday at 5:22 AM|
Frannie talks about relating to her character in this film, R38. I think our Frannie has a little nomad in her and I love it.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||Last Sunday at 5:42 AM|
I thought that is was incredibly moving and a fine film. I would be fine with it winning any or all of the major awards.
Compelling and so timely-
The sequence towards the end in David's family's house that leads to the ending is particularly wonderful and powerful.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||Last Sunday at 6:24 AM|
I loved the director's other film The Rider, so am looking forward to this.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||Last Sunday at 6:30 AM|
I lived in an RV for a couple years, this is an extremely boring and sanitized take. It doesn't all have to be poverty porn, but no gas station attendant has ever offered someone sleeping in their parking lot a bed down the street. The RV park was immaculate, no broken bottles or windows, no screaming junkies or alcoholics, no make shift sheds and cop sirens. It's a love letter to the community, but it doesn't show case any hard ships. The rock show in Quartizite is real and my aunt used to go down there a couple times a year to buy antiques. It feels almost pusedo documentary, but too clean. The scenic shots were dulled out and the only vibrant color on the screen is about an hour and a half in. Why not make the sunsets look amazing? Why tinge the PNW in grey? Seems like a missed opportunity to showcase some of the beauty that makes that life so special.
I'm renovating it now while I can't travel and redid the ceiling and counter tops, now I'm trying to rip out the floor but the carpet staples are a pain in the ass. I stopped for a while because I wasn't too motivated to keep going but maybe after watching this it'll get me back on track
|by Anonymous||reply 42||Last Sunday at 6:36 AM|
R42, what brought you to live in an RV? Was it by choice? How do you make money?
|by Anonymous||reply 43||Last Sunday at 6:51 AM|
On first impression this was a beautiful and sad movie, but then I started wondering where are the immigrants who do these low-wage jobs? And were these white nomads Trump voters or non-voters? Also seemed unrealistic that a woman alone would never seem to face any kind of physical threat or uneasiness.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||Last Sunday at 6:59 AM|
[R43] Thank you for asking; I've been thinking a lot about it and have thoughts!
TL:DR - I'm an idiot, sadly yes, I'm lucky to have my job
For why - I had the albatross of feeling responsible for a heroin addled orphan with a felony. Her father, my best friend, died when she was 19, and his dying wish to me was to make sure she was safe, she asked for help. So new roommate it is. I was renting, couldn't afford a down payment for a house, and no place will rent to a felon. You either move every couple weeks from national park to national park or you go to an RV Park. RV Parks mostly don't run background checks or only run it on the main person. If they do, you just pick up and move. You don't need a down payment to park it, or even for the RV itself. You can walk into a dealership and get a 15 year loan out the door no questions asked. Of course, the living arrangement lasted only a couple months before it was just me, my cat, and a 30 foot RV with monthly payments equivalent to rent with no market value after the miles we'd put on it. I also accidentally broke a lot of stuff like the awning and the antenna handle, because that's what happens the first time you get an RV. It was great solo and I ended up doing it for a couple years.
For money - It's about the same price as renting a 1 bedroom with parking, insurance, storage unit, po box, cell phone (with unlimited wifi plan). I travel for a living, working every other week, booked about 3 months in advance. You can book camp sites about 6 months in advance, and you have to pay in advance. If things got tight I wasn't able to book as far out so I'd have to boon dock occasionally. Work weeks, I'd stay near an airport (Portland, SeaTac, Sacramento, Eugene, etc) and wake up in the forest., then drive into the city. I towed my car behind the RV. Every city with an airport has a expo area you can stay at, but those are awful, just parking lots with hook ups. The only time I wasn't able to find something was major holidays (4th of July, etc) which would leave me scrambling to find a WalMart that wouldn't kick me out. I had a little white board next to the door and I'd write the site and the dates and the RV spot.
Stuff you didn't ask but I'm going to mention anyway - Some of the things I really missed were having a bath tub and mail delivery, which was limited to a post office box with a service that opens and scans your mail for you near my storage unit. Fed Ex & UPS won't ship to a post office, everything has to be USPS. I was able to register as a resident with no address only in the state of Oregon, and with RealID, you're not able to fly if you don't have one, so "continuous traveler", which is what my license says now, is no longer available. So maybe the whole "wow, I can't get an ID or Driver's License" problem could have come up in the movie.
Spoilers - It's also incredibly hard to get dental care, since I was only in the same area near my storage unit occasionally and most dentists won't work on the weekends. One time I went to a stadium dentist :( They should have showed the horrors of being one of the last people let in for dental care day and watching families with kids who've been waiting two days turned away behind you. Or you know, a lady who's super happy about not having access to medical care. That too. I laughed in a room alone when that lady said "Because she loved rocks". That was the only time I laughed. Fran McD could have been any of them though, her performance was great and understated. And I got totally pissed when that motherfucker broke her plates. WTF, asshole, SHE SAID LEAVE HER ALONE DAMN IT. Other than that the only emotions I felt were boredom and confusion about why everything looked so bland. Oh! And I wanted her to hook up with the other park attendant.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||Last Sunday at 11:33 AM|
Chloe Zhao is being marketed as the second coming of Orson Welles. Or, if you prefer, Agnes Varda.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||Last Sunday at 12:01 PM|
R2 sounds like Ivanka Trump.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||Last Sunday at 12:03 PM|
Loved it! Mesmerizing, the story and scenery. I'm not sure I can write anything adequate to describe how much I felt this movie. Thought McDormand was outstanding.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||Last Sunday at 9:23 PM|
Has anyone seen The Rider? (also by Zhao)
|by Anonymous||reply 49||Last Monday at 12:24 PM|
She’s much better here than in Three Billboards.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||Last Monday at 12:27 PM|
Great actress but she is one homely woman.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||Last Monday at 12:27 PM|
R49, The Rider is wonderful. See it.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||Last Monday at 12:34 PM|
This movie sucks. Hillbilly Elegy is much better.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||Last Monday at 12:42 PM|
R42? "...pusedo documentary"?
|by Anonymous||reply 54||Last Tuesday at 3:48 PM|
yes "The Rider" is an excellent movie, it got a lot recognitions in the indie film circuit but was mostly ignored by the major awards, you can rent it on youtube and Amazon, it's well worth $3.99.
And here is the good news, starting this week, it's free to watch on PlutoTV.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||Last Tuesday at 6:48 PM|
It felt more like a scripted documentary to me - which is a very good thing. I thought Frannie was superb. Totally fine with her winning her third.
Compared to Mank, Trial of the Chicago Seven, One Night in Miami, Ma Rainey and the few other Oscar contenders I've seen, this is by far my favorite (Haven't seen Minari or Promising Young Woman). It was so gorgeous to watch and I was happy it was so plot thin.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||Last Wednesday at 12:09 AM|
R55 thank you so much! - I'm watching it now.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||Last Wednesday at 6:03 PM|
I really enjoyed how low key it is.
and watching her shit in a tub
|by Anonymous||reply 58||Yesterday at 10:55 AM|
I thought it was wonderful. Will watch again
|by Anonymous||reply 59||Yesterday at 11:15 AM|
I can't watch it again. I found it horribly depressing. Those people seem like misfits or very desperate people who have either been forced into that life, or have mental health issues. But living that kind of existence seems frightening to me. They painted an idyllic portrait and made cleaning toilets seem pleasant and easy. I'm glad the film was made. This is something worth seeing. It was obviously sanitized. I mean, getting the flat tire and having someone thee to help her drive he into get a new one, and when he van beaks down, $2300 to fix it, oh, well. Shitting in plastic tubs inside the van. And there was nothing comfortable about sleeping in a van in below zero weather. The fact that thee people chose to live like that, and be all awe stuck simply walking into a model RUV was just awful to me. To be elderly and alone and vulnerable, poo health, etc. and have no other choice was something I found disturbing. These weren't cheerful retirees running off to see America for a couple of yeas. Yes, McDormand was excellent. But to me, the power of the movie was in how devastating that life is. Like a slow form of suicide.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||a day ago|
|by Anonymous||reply 61||a day ago|
I tried for 30 minutes and quit.
I realize it's received fairly good reviews, but I was pretty bored. More importantly, I wasn't in the mood for the bleakness.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||a day ago|
R60 in the movie, there was a scene that Fern (McDormand) bumped into an old friend and her daughters. She tried to explain to one of young girls that she is just houseless, but not homeless. In the book Normandland, the author Jessica Bruder said many of those van living old people share the same thought that they are not homeless, maybe it's a way to preserve their own dignity, but the reality is most of them are in dire situations, And I don't think the film is trying to portray an idyllic life style here, we saw how hard they live, they were hungry, they were sick and lonely, and there was no heat in the freezing cold and of course no sanitation, they were trying to get any job they can... but we also learned from the film, there is some sort of unofficial community and "safety net program" for themselves , you need to go to those "training course" gatherings if you decide to live in a van, the volunteers will share the tips on living and on where and when to find jobs, also connect you with other people so you might be able to each other on the road... and in my opinion, the sense of this "community" is the only thing that makes living in a van remotely "interesting" in the film.
In a few reviews, there are some criticism on the film, saying it didn't expose Amazon's harsh work environment. McDormand said she went to Amazon warehouse and worked along with other people, even though she said she won't choose this as a job, the repetitive nature of packing and taping boxes didn't bother her and many old people. Also according to Jessica Bruder, Amazon's campforce program was well received by those van living people, to them the money and free RV stay was very attractive. Because this is a seasonal gig for holidays, they show up in the winter and they leave after the holiday is over. I think this might explain why, they don't work at Amazon all year long to make a living, it's just a few months for some extra cash with free RV parking.
Also I noticed in the film, probably in real life too, the old people are in better shape than young people, the old people at least live in a van and have some sort of income or social security, meager they might be, but young people featured in the film like Derrick from Wisconsin, they have nothing, they are basically homeless.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||13 hours ago|
I admire the uncomplaining self-reliance that doesn't have the element of isolation; they rely on one another and help one another understand how difficult this life they've chosen is. I loved feeling immediately relaxed and unquestioning about how time unfolds when I'm not expecting a standard plot to unfold, much like the way life unfolds for the nomads.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||12 hours ago|
It reminded me of the spareness of Atom Egoyan films, which I miss.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||12 hours ago|
The people seem to be a mix of those who love the freedom of not being wedded to a job and traveling and those who are a bit cracked in the head
|by Anonymous||reply 66||12 hours ago|
I left the movie thinking the main character had emotional issues and wasn’t on the road because her situation was so dire but because she couldn’t firm attachments to other people after her husband died. Didn’t she stay in that dying town a long time after her husband died? And her sister, probably aware of her issues, offered her a home and the Straitharn character fix the same.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||12 hours ago|
I didn’t like the rape scene
|by Anonymous||reply 68||12 hours ago|
My husband and I reached the same conclusions Egalandy (R67)
Factor in too that she had worked as a substitute teacher and could quote Shakespeare, she likely could have found a teaching job somewhere which would have paid more than an Amazon warehouse and being on the road was her way of dealing with that by ensuring she would not be in situations where she'd be pressed to form emotional attachments. Which is why Straitharn's character threw her for a loop.
It rang true though, as there are people who never recover from the loss of a spouse, they are just scared to form that sort of attachment again.
Overall, it was beautifully shot and had a dream-like quality to it and deserves all the praise it's gotten. I had not realized until reading reviews after we saw it that many of the actors were real people. McDormand's scenes with them were flawless.
I can see it resonating in both positive and negative ways with many DLers as many older posters do seem to be alone and without close friends and family.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||11 hours ago|
I thought Frances was hysterical in Burn After Reading.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||11 hours ago|
You just know she stinks
|by Anonymous||reply 71||11 hours ago|
Alternate title: On the Road With Olive Kitteridge
|by Anonymous||reply 72||10 hours ago|