The Lincoln Project is dead to me

Kurt Bardella resigned as well

Good. These creepy ex - Bush officials and neocons have served their purpose now they can fuck off. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

Is Schmidt gone because he swindled or because he found it disgusting what happened?

I wondered why I hadn't seen him on MSNBC lately.

The rats are fleeing the sinking ship....

Datalounge liberals gave more love to these grifters than they ever gave to AOC or Bernie Sanders.

Oh, but everyone here said they'd be working for the Democrats forever....

Who loved them? Only self-deluding, ugly Log Cabin losers did.

The exposes are going to be delicious to read. There may be evidence of fraud and money laundering.

[quote] Datalounge liberals gave more love to these grifters than they ever gave to AOC or Bernie Sanders.

What’s your fucking point? Most of us aren’t communists.

Rick Wilson does make me laugh but these guys were another Avenatti. I was always suspicious of Schmidt and Conway.

They all knew what Weaver was doing but didn’t care because they were making millions of dollars a month.

Who cares? They served their purpose.

Now Schmidt is posting about how he was touched by a Boy Scout leader. You can’t make this shit up!

[quote] What’s your fucking point? Most of us aren’t communists.

And neither are they, you fucking idiot.

Didnt Steve officially convert to a Democrat after he left the Republican party?

They were Republicans and that is what Republicans do, even the anti-Trump ones.

[quote] Utah state voting records accessed by The Post show that Schmidt is an active registered member of the Independent American Party, a small far-right group which promotes conspiracy theories on its website and whose platform could not be further removed from the Democrats’ liberal bent.

I don’t think it will shake out to be as bad as some (and a lot of trolls) think. They DID serve their purpose. They rattled republicans and the former prez. They play dirty dirty. I never gave to them and don’t give to PACs but I hope they continue in some form.

I am also skeptical of the Meidas brothers

R17 LOL the NY Post. Was Epoch Times website down?

He got a divorce it looks like in 2018. And so did Conway from Kellyane this year I think. I wonder if these former Republicans who saw the light could not drag their skanky whore with them?

To be fair, I think Nicolle Wallace who also got a divorce from her husband a couple years ago after leaving the Republican party.

R20 It was a choice of Fox News or NY Post, while I don't trust the Post much such a declarative statement as "Utah state voting records accessed by The Post show ..." is unlikely to be a false statement even for the Post.

Lady G doing her “I told you so Happy Dance”.

OP headline is misleading to say the least.

Sounds more like wishful thinking and trying to misrepresent the information in the article.

OP is getting an FF from me.

R24 Schmidt was in charge of TLP and all the other advisors are resigning too. It’s over.

Yep wishful thinking. The right wing trolls want them defeated so badly. I am LMFAO. They ain’t going anywhere. I bet Steve is a registered Democrat like he claims.

R5, that's because they accomplished a lot more in this past election than either AOC or Bernie Sanders...or any other delusional super-progressive. That wing of the party causes more problems than they solve.

When the Post starts quoting people who say stupid things like this, and bringing in George Soros, you really cant trust anything else they say.

"Not surprisingly the accusers of Trump have also come forward, again (perhaps funded and pushed by Soros?),”

R27 you must have missed the study where it released the Lincoln project ads actually HELPED trump

Shmidt is really the first guy to point out long before the Capital riot that even after Trump was gone, the country would have to defeat Trumpism. Which he predicted would be around for years and so far, he's been correct.

One more time...

Never (clap) trust (clap) a republican (clap)... EVER! (clap, clap)

Got it?

[quote]you must have missed the study where it released the Lincoln project ads actually HELPED trump

Link Please or I call bull shit.

Do any of the Meidas brothers have actual jobs? What happened to the Krasensteins?

Some tea on TLP

They’re scammers

None of those links are actual studies dipshit, all opinion hit pieces.

We need negative ads and the Lincoln project did a good job.

Jacobin is a far, far left socialist magazine. They hate anyone right of Bernie. Of course they hate the Lincoln Project. They also hate Biden, Warren and everyone else in the Democratic party.

Sounds like you all got scammed by these Iraq-war supporting Republicans and are in denial

No one here got scammed dipshit. I love what the Lincoln Project did Trolling trump and pointing out his lies. I did not give them a penny. Most of their money probably came from disaffected Republicans afraid to leave the party.

Rick Wilson has been fleecing MSNBC liberals for awhile now. Since 2018!

Steve now saying he did the bone dance with an adult male at Boy Scout camp as a thirteen year old. Hmmm....

Inside The Lincoln Project’s Toxic Workplace

It looks like the entire leadership of the project will be spending significant time in federal prison.

If you want to see who got scammed, look to the Deplorable who gave the orange clown 150 million dollars AFTER he lost an election. And none of those stupid Deplorables he separated from their money would ever be let on the grounds of Mar-a-Lago. Losers! LOL

Steve Schmidt is the guy who gave the green light to Sarah Palin. Everything post-Palin is his fault. He started off the 2020 presidential race by hitching his wagon to the Starbucks guy and going on unhinged rants-so unhinged he was banished from MSNBC for months. I don’t trust his judgment one bit and I don’t buy this new revelation that he was raped when he was younger.

Funny how all this comes out now, and not a few months ago.

You want to talk TOXIC? BEHOLD the Trump last days in the White House!

I came to say what r12 said. They helped to get rid of Trump. If they got rich-- or richer-- in the process, who cares? I do find Rick Wilson annoying, but I always enjoy Schmidt and Conway.

[quote]Steve Schmidt ... was banished from MSNBC for months

FALSE, he took another job and he resigned from MSNBC he was not banished. After that job came to a close, they asked him to come back.

The FBI is looking into Weaver, which I’m sure also includes what the hell they did with $100 million in six months. That’s why they’re all resigning now trying to get far away from TLP

These were Datalounge heroes. Hilarious.

OP is citing outed propaganda outlet Axios as a “reliable source‘ lol

Rick Wilson can be quite funny on his take downs though. I see Steve as the intellectual one, Rick as comic relief.

I knew we would stop being friends when the election was over, it was an uneasy truce that had to end. Summer Lovin'

They fought dirty so the Democrats didn't have to, they wouldn't have; I didn't expect Boy Scouts.

Yeah, they may have covered up some light ephebophilia, and they may have taken in a lot of money for themselves and that all may be technically illegal, but they made great political ads.

R50 that other job was running the campaign of Howard Schultz. He was put on time out by MSNBC because he failed to disclose to them that he was working for Schultz as he went on the air every day shilling for him.

The OP is a Troll, more than 20 of the last posts are all his Trolling.

Notice he never provided a link to his claim that the Lincoln Project actually helped Trump? Of course not, just BS opinion pieces. He's a Troll.

OP = Q

Pedo stuff is their cat nip they cant resist.

R56 Just like the Boy Scouts, they too covered up a sex scandal between young boys and older men.

Steve can sit on my face anytime.

FF the OP he's another Q Going bats shit pedo crazy.

They did their job during the election.

We don’t need them any more

No one brought down Trump better than the Lincoln Project. Especially not the old man in woven mitten. Say what you want about the Lincoln Project, I am eternally grateful. Sometimes you have to sleep with strange bedfellows for the good of the country.

R61 you nasty, Steve is gross

[quote]We don’t need them any more

Actually we do, 70 million people voted for Trump, Trumpism needs to be defeated and if they go away, who else is going to do it? Bidens whole thing is unity. He's NEVER going to attack Trumpism directly or indirectly. You cant just ignore them and hope it goes away.

Steve's a hot daddy, I wouldn't kick him out of bed. Sure he's a mean fuck.

They covered up the sexual abuse of dozens of men by John Weaver. No amount of clever ads makes that okay. Come on guys.

Schmidt is bald, pasty, fat, and ugly. There are some desperate people here.

R69 = OP Troll, FF Him people.

R65/69=nursing home rapist!

[quote] And neither are they, you fucking idiot.

Yeah, okay, comrade. Unlike those two clowns, The Lincoln Project actually did something.

[quote] Sounds like you all got scammed by these Iraq-war supporting Republicans and are in denial

Who’s in the White House right now? Who was impeached twice? No one got scammed, you moron.

I would say, if giving money to the Lincoln Project got Biden into the White House and Democratic control of both the House and the Senate, it's money well spent.

[quote] that other job was running the campaign of Howard Schultz. He was put on time out by MSNBC because he failed to disclose to them that he was working for Schultz as he went on the air every day shilling for him.

Correct. And during the time that Steve Schmidt was advising Howard Schultz, he changed his tune. He stopped tweeting and stopped attacking Trump (because Schultz's message was basically that the Democrats were just as bad as Trump). It wasn't until Schultz decided not to run (because he realized he had no chance) that Schmidt went back to attacking Trump. If Schultz had ended up running, Schmidt would have spent the 2020 campaign attacking Democrats just as much as he attacked Trump.

R73 Homer: Well, there's not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol is sure doing its job.

Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.

Homer: Thank you, sweetie.

Lisa: Dad, what if I were to tell you that this rock keeps away tigers.

Homer: Uh-huh, and how does it work?

Lisa: It doesn't work. It's just a stupid rock.

Homer: I see.

Lisa: But you don't see any tigers around, do you?

Homer: Lisa, I'd like to buy your rock.

Steven evolved from Republican to Independent to Democrat. Nothing odd about that, no one flips parties overnight. He's now officially on the side of Democrats and registered as one.

Here’s the tea: the Lincoln Project’s long goal is not to “save” the Republican Party, it’s actually trying to help split it so they can get rid of the old school (ie Romney) and moderates (ie Collins? Are there even any Repug moderates left?). Then a new Republican party of extremist Right Wingers like the QAnon nuts will emerge and take over.

Huh...

Did McCain hate Schmidt because of the Palin fiasco? This is news to me

Another one bites the dust

Wow. Those tweets from Meghan McCain are interesting. Steve Schmidt has always spoken highly of McCain. Didn't realize that McCain hated him after 2008.

So Steve Schmidt hates Trump and Palin. And McCain apparently hated Trump and Palin and Schmidt.

I wonder where Nicolle Wallace fits into all of this (I know she's not part of the Lincoln Project).

John McCain, and his demon spawn bitch, both deserve to burn in hell, so this makes me like Schmidt a little.

I thought she hated them (and Wallace) because they participated in the Game Change book and subsequently TV movie.

*Subsequently the TV movie

Yes I think the “betrayal” Meghan speaks about what Game Change. The McCain family found that very tacky.

I’m not sure if McCain ended up hating Nicole Wallace but I don’t think so. I’m pretty sure she was at his funeral.

They’re political operatives. They’ve been making millions for years working for the GOP. Now they’re making millions working against the GOP and republicans are pissed. They’re only doing what they’ve been doing for their entire careers. So what’s the big whoop here? Millionaire political propaganda agents continue to make millions while working as propaganda agents.

Boris has a lot of nerve to call liberals “gullible” when Republicans wouldn’t question their conmen authorities if Default Donnie threw 4 million Americans out of work and killed them with COVID!

Look at all these gullible Deplorables who let Steve Bannon swindle $25 million out of them for mansions and yachts!

At least the Lincoln Project ads were effective and won the election.

Who is that total hottie standing next to Steve Bannon? Woof.

While I liked most of the ads, the founders of the Lincoln Project found their outrage only after a non-establishment Republican was elected president. When Obama was president, they turned a blind eye to the overt racism, xenophobia, scorched earth ploys, and all the lies and conspiracy theories by the Republican Party. It was Steve Schmidt for fuck sake that manipulated John McCain during 2008 to take on Sarah Palin as his VP, even though he knew she was woefully unqualified for such a position.

Steve Schmidt is on Maher tonight and he was introduced as "MSNBC Consultant," no mention of the Lincoln Project (so far). He also said he is a registered democrat.

They get into LP later in the show and discuss money. He talked about LP spending $60some million of the $87 million raised on direct voter outreach. Bill asked about the rest. Steve stumbles around a bit and says that they aren't required to disclose payments to subcontractors which is how they protect their employees/vendors from trump supporters.

Isn't that how Brad Paschale went down, by paying "subcontractors" owned by him?

Us smart liberals spotted this as yet another right wing grift as soon as it started up.

Yes, R92, and I hope they spend a few decades in jail for their grift.

They trolled republicans. YAY. I don’t care beyond that. They hate them. They want to destroy them. GOOD. I don’t give money to PACs so doesn’t bother me. Win-win. Only right wing trolls are hating on LP.

I just heard about this so I did some reading. Looks like a married man with kids had been perving on men (teens? Boys?) and there's controversy over who knew what and when. The "organizational internal control failure" is important but it doesn't matter to me so that's ignored.

There are also this far only allegations that money went to contractors owner by top leadership. Who and whether this is a major deviation from usual practice is not immediately apparent. wait for more reporting.

Lookss like the organization is imploding, an appropriate send of the allegations are true. I can't see how this affects Dems at all.

Also, I don't immediately believe the Steve schmidt is in a far right party; it sounds ridiculous on its face. If he really is registered in the "american independent party" I would sooner believe he thought that meant "political independent" than that he is a secret nazi (no chance, unless he is a god-tier actor, which he's not).

These guys went along with every vile thing the GOP supported until Trump. Iraq war? Check. Torture? Check. Anti-lgbt legislation? Check. Pro business/Wall Street policies that destroyed the lives of millions of Americans? Check. Anti-abortion? Check. Racism against Obama? Check.

It’s nice they don’t like Trump but it’s sad that these guys became heroes over the last 4 years. They’re awful people who supported awful things for years and years.

Good fucking riddance

So get rid of the creep who was hitting on his staff. Next. Am I missing something else?

One look at Schmidt's home in the background of his interviews tells you he has expensive tastes.

Why couldn't he laugh the penis brush off, like his buddies did?

Schmidt pings as a self-loathing homo.

Has their former gay Comms Director responded yet?

ERWTD

Everything Rick Wilson Touches Dies

Apparently John McCain hated Schmidt?

3/3 (#2 was just ‘Weaver is a disgusting POS’)

They hated him for Game Change. Meghan is a POS.

R104 McCain had hated him since 2008 according to Meghan’s tweet.

I wonder if they still have, or hid, all their ill-gotten gains. I never liked them. Very physically ugly bunch.

The Lincoln Project had absolutely no impact on the election. All it did was get money and names for a rebranded GOP.

I’m enjoying watching them go down now that Biden is in the White House. Those bitches Nicholle Wallace, Peggy Noonan, and Michael Steele can fuck off as well.

R107, yep. I posted after the election TLP did fuck all. They swore they would bring Trump down and he gained 10m voters from 2016. They targeted GOP senators and they won easily. Kelly, in AZ, would have won even if TLP didn't exist. GA coming through with the 2 wins saved TLP from embarrassment. And no, that wasn't TLP, that was Stacy Abrams and her grassroots coalition.

It's not so much that I had any insight into their grift. I just found they were not good value for actual impact. I do check Rick Wilson's twitter and though entertaining, you see how they all just hype each other. It's a lot of backslapping for their amazing ads and stunts. Going after Kushner and Ivanka with ads in NYC--okay, funny. I bet that was millions that had exactly zero impact on any election. I watched the ads and everyone kept praising them to high heaven. All of them preached to the choir. Ads that ripped into Trump--again, zero impact changing minds. They just made Trump haters feel good.

And knowing now they likely paid themselves millions, it's hypocritical of Rick WIlson and his buddies to have banged on Parscale and Trump campaign's grift and spending. But I guess they knew how the game is played. Ditto on Trump's sexual predation.

Finally, I was always wary of TLP because they were the assholes behind some of the shittiest GOP campaigns. Schmidt's championing of Palin is near unforgiveable. If he had been genuinely about Never Trump, I could see a sliver of a chance at redemption. But nope, he's just the same asshole. These guys swiftboated John Kerry and buried Vietnam vet and amputee, Max Cleland.

Their work is done.

There is much evidence they did get inside Trump's head-- the last episode of Jonathan Swan's podcast talks about how Trump turned on Pence because of a TLP ad he saw.

But he lost and it's time for the current generation of Republicans to clear their own house.

And, as others have noted, there's the whole Scorpion and the Frog thing with them.

R109, there is zero incentive for either party to “clear their own house” because they pull in more cash than ever before with infighting and scaring donors.

There is money out there thanks to Citizens United that cannot find an idiot. Bouncing off walls catches those looney dollars.

Their job was to make films/ads to defeat Trump.

Trump was defeated.

Why wouldn’t they all be resigning?

Job well done.

They’re political operatives, they deal in propaganda. They used their operative propaganda skills to defeat Trump, just like they used their skills to work for Republican candidates now order to defeat democrats. They got paid to defeat democrats in the past; this time time they got paid to defeat Trump. They are high priced people. They accomplished their goal. No reason to continue with this group.

Meghan lies

[quote] I do check Rick Wilson's twitter a

Rick Wilson lives on Twitter and he’s obsessed with Trump. The guy tweets all day every day bashing Trump. He’s written 2 books about how much Trump SUCKS and he’s probably working on #3 right now. I’d love to know how much money he’s made off his Trump obsession between his TV appearances, books and the LP. Dude needs to find a new hobby or something (but he’ll probably stick with bashing Trump as long as he can keep making bank.)

[quote] I’d love to know how much money he’s made off his Trump obsession between his TV appearances, books and the LP.

Millions.

And why not?

People buy his books. They know what they’re buying. They seek out his books and buy them.

My mother used to buy Bill O’Reilly’s books & give them out as Christmas presents to her rightwing brothers & sisters. O’Reilly was obsessed with the Clintons. Tucker Carlson is obsessed with BLM, professors & students from secular colleges & universities, socialists & communists. He writes books. He has a tv show. He has a “news”site, the Daily Wire. He makes millions, too. People want to read his stuff.

Rupert Murdoch makes billions printing & broadcasting political lies. It’s not illegal. I wish it was, but it’s not. Rudy Giuliani gets paid for books, appearances, speeches & he is a liar and a gaslighted. But people want to pay to hear what he says.

Thousands of journalists, political operatives, clowns, politicians, bankers, gangsters, financial people write books, have tv shows, are pundits & panelists. People are free to *not* buy their stuff. But they buy it.

Princess Meghan hates Steve Schmidt because he called her on her shit. In his book about McCain, he described what a nuisance she was on the campaign trail, how she mostly just got drunk, and called her a "spoiled brat"!

That sounds about right to me.

^^There were also rumors that she was hot for him, he turned her down, and she was real pissed.

Without The Lincoln Project doing their thing, the election would likely have been lost to Trump. I consider the measly $40 that I donated to them to be money well spent. If they got rich, I say they deserve it.

[quote] Without The Lincoln Project doing their thing, the election would likely have been lost to Trump.

Is there any evidence to support that claim? I loved the Lincoln Project's ads, but every time I saw one online, all of the comments about how great they were came from Democrats or Never Trumpers. I doubt there were many people who said, "I used to like Trump, but then I watched the Lincoln Project ads, and now I've changed my mind." And Lincoln Project people like Rick Wilson and Steve Schmidt were constantly on MSNBC, whose viewers have always hated Trump and who knew the moment that Trump took office that they'd be voting straight-ticket Democratic in 2020. The Lincoln Project spent all their time preaching to (and collecting money from) the choir.

Their goal was to get republicans to jump ship and ditch Trump. They, after all, knew how to talk to them since they’re republicans too.

Trump did better with republicans in 2020 than he did in 2016.

They failed. This was a well run grift run by lifelong scammers.

Did he do better with republicans? Many left the party leaving only the nuts. GA and AZ proved many Rs jumped ship because they didn’t vote for him but did Rs down ballot.

[quote] the measly $40 that I donated

Dumb dumb sucker

[quote] Jacobin is a far, far left socialist magazine. They hate anyone right of Bernie. Of course they hate the Lincoln Project. They also hate Biden, Warren and everyone else in the Democratic party.

That makes them closet deplorables. The left is the new right wing.

Like Sue Sarandon.

I had wondered if something was up with the group. After the election, Rick Wilson, who was normally a prolific tweeter, suddenly tweeted only a few times per day despite all of the momentous and historical GOP shenanigans and QAnon activity. At one point, he mentioned being on conference calls with lawyers all afternoon. I assumed it had to do with the Weaver stuff as that's when the information started leaking out. Looks like it was that and all the negotiations with Steslow, Galen and Madrid's separations from the group and their settlements.

𝐆𝐞𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐞 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐰𝐚𝐲, 𝐚 𝐋𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐨𝐥𝐧 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐣𝐞𝐜𝐭 𝐟𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫, 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤𝐬 𝐬𝐡𝐮𝐭𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐩 𝐚𝐦𝐢𝐝 𝐚 𝐡𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐬.

The heat must be getting close to George. Pay attention to his daughter instead.

Their work didn’t win voters, but it did fuck up Trump’s campaign even more (if that’s possible), by trolling an audience of one and setting their campaign agenda for them. Made the campaign more paranoid, defensive, and reactive and cleared a lane for more positive messaging from Biden.

I enjoyed their Twitter feeds, but it was hard to read their revisionist histories lauding the “honorable” Republicans of the past. The Bushes? Cheney? McCain? They fulfilled their role as enemy of my enemy. Now they can fuck off.

George Conway should focus more on getting his house in order.

One Boris is writing 80 percent of the responses here.

Rick Wilson used the 'blame Soros for everything' rhetoric before he went after 45 so he is an architect of the fucked up Repug narrative that remains popular with the finger pointing party.

I found their anti-45 ads and the takedowns by Schmidt and even Wilson quite entertaining, but, no, they were never to be trusted. I hope none of you gave them money. In the end, they are just professional trollers serving their own interests.