Guy I know just died from this. Late 50s, otherwise fit, bright, everything to live for. Gone within 6 months of diagnosis of Stage IV. Any DL medics know cause factors for PC?
Pancreatic Cancer
by Anonymous | reply 49 | February 12, 2021 3:04 AM |
Smoking.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | February 11, 2021 8:35 PM |
Don't think he was a smoker, r1.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | February 11, 2021 8:42 PM |
Factors that may increase your risk of pancreatic cancer include:
Smoking
Diabetes
Chronic inflammation of the pancreas (pancreatitis)
Family history of genetic syndromes that can increase cancer risk, including a BRCA2 gene mutation, Lynch syndrome and familial atypical mole-malignant melanoma (FAMMM) syndrome
Family history of pancreatic cancer
Obesity
Older age, as most people are diagnosed after age 65
A large study demonstrated that the combination of smoking, long-standing diabetes and a poor diet increases the risk of pancreatic cancer beyond the risk of any one of these factors alone.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | February 11, 2021 8:43 PM |
Genetic and you can't fight it.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | February 11, 2021 8:43 PM |
I expect long term, my HIV meds will get me to this situation
by Anonymous | reply 5 | February 11, 2021 8:46 PM |
[quote]Family history of pancreatic cancer
My father and 2 of my mother's brothers died of pancreatic cancer.
The first hint of any of the symptoms and I'll be at the doctors.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | February 11, 2021 8:48 PM |
R6, you don’t get symptoms until stage 4.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | February 11, 2021 8:52 PM |
R6, did they smoke? Obese? Drink a lot?
by Anonymous | reply 8 | February 11, 2021 8:52 PM |
R5, what are you talking about?
by Anonymous | reply 9 | February 11, 2021 8:53 PM |
My mother, a generally healthy, 88-year old, non-smoker, died within 3 months of her pancreatic cancer diagnosis. There was no prior family history of pancreatic cancer. Now there is. Although I would have liked her to have more than 88 years, I suppose 88 years of generally healthy life isn't such a bad deal.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | February 11, 2021 8:59 PM |
R5 - HIV meds can get you to have pancreatic cancer?
by Anonymous | reply 11 | February 11, 2021 9:03 PM |
My grandmother died about 3 weeks after she was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.
But this was 51 years in 1970. Treatments have improved considerably since then.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | February 11, 2021 9:04 PM |
I know two people who died from pancreatic cancer. One was in his 30's and the other in his 50's. Both started with very nonspecific abdominal symptoms.
The problem is that by the time it's diagnosed, it's too late.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | February 11, 2021 9:06 PM |
I don't think there's genetic connection
by Anonymous | reply 14 | February 11, 2021 9:07 PM |
[quote][R6], did they smoke? Obese? Drink a lot?
My father smoked all his life. He was diagnosed at 70. My two uncles never smoked, didn't drink much and were active. One was mid 60s, other mid 70s.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | February 11, 2021 9:22 PM |
I've been reading up and finding some research making the link between meat, alcohol and PC. Don't know if anyone else has had this experience of know people in this "category."
by Anonymous | reply 16 | February 11, 2021 9:26 PM |
Alcohol abuse will definitely be a factor.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | February 11, 2021 9:30 PM |
I’ve got two words for you, folks: olive oil. Incorporate lots of it into a healthy diet and you won’t have to worry about pancreatic cancer and most other cancers for that matter. It’s the key to a long, healthy life.
Whether you follow the Paleo diet or the Mediterranean diet or some mix, you should be eating foods that are heavy on olive oil.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | February 11, 2021 9:33 PM |
You can, R4 and some have. But it is virulent and many are stage IV before they realize they have it.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | February 11, 2021 9:36 PM |
R11
Pancreatitis is a well-described complication of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) itself and its combination antiretroviral therapy.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | February 11, 2021 9:37 PM |
R16, consider very carefully the sources of any who claim meat is a problem. Where is their funding coming from and did they declare any conflicts, which they are supposed to do in the study.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | February 11, 2021 9:41 PM |
Cause factors for PC?
Being a unibrow twat at Brown?
by Anonymous | reply 22 | February 11, 2021 9:44 PM |
The pancreas’ close proximity to other digestive organs makes it more likely to spread and unfortunately as said earlier, it usually not diagnosed until stage 4. Surgical treatment involves a Whipple procedure, one of the most complicated surgeries out there. We do have one patient who had a Whipple about 4 years ago and is doing pretty well, remarkably.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | February 11, 2021 9:49 PM |
For some it is a genetic component. Charlotte Rae had multiple family members die of the disease so she was monitored for a number of years and sure enough she was diagnosed with it, but because she was monitored her doctors got it at a very early stage.
Steve Jobs was having a medical procedure when the doctors found his at a very early stage and cureable stage. His doctors were jumping up and down telling him they could remove it and that it was close to a miracle that it was found at an early stage. He declined and said he was going to try some sort of holistic diet to cure it. Less than a year later he decided to have the surgery and the doctors told him there really wasn’t anything they could do for him because he waited too long. He really thought he was invincible and knew better.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | February 11, 2021 9:52 PM |
R20 - well pancreatitis is, I have heard, a deeply painful condition which can be a harbinger of cancer. This is the reason I fear HIV and am amazed at how so many live with it these days. Sure, the meds help and yes, some have it easier than others, but too many who are under 40 don't remember the AIDS era or just ignore the hardship of living with HIV. I really wish more gay men living with it would educate younger men about it.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | February 11, 2021 10:00 PM |
Thanks for all your good comments. I believe there was some form of alcohol abuse or more accurately, regular "social" drinking coupled with fairly regular solo drinking r17. A long history of it.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | February 11, 2021 10:06 PM |
I was diagnosed with stage II pancreatic cancer 10 years ago when I was 55. My diagnosis concluded that the cancer was probably from chronic pancreatitis. I underwent a laparoscopic whipple procedure at Cleveland Clinic, followed by chemotherapy. There were complications after surgery with infection, abdominal abscesses and pneumonia. That delayed the beginning of chemotherapy treatment. My gastroenterologist, at first consultation, warned me that I was facing major surgery. He must have said it a half dozen times. You do your research and learn what the whipple sugery involves and you think you understand what major surgery is, but you really don't. I wasn't prepared for everything involved. I'm in generally good health today. There have been delayed complications over the years. I see my oncologist twice a year for a complete blood work-up. The latest results in January couldn't have been more normal for anyone. As my GP said, I was luckily unlucky.
by Anonymous | reply 27 | February 11, 2021 10:19 PM |
PC got Juliet Prowse at 59 and she was in great shape.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | February 11, 2021 10:25 PM |
It KILLED Pa Ingalls!
by Anonymous | reply 29 | February 11, 2021 10:30 PM |
So glad they caught it, r27. You had great doctors.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | February 11, 2021 10:31 PM |
I'm on Prep, so I'm not afraid of it.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | February 11, 2021 10:45 PM |
R6 you should talk to an oncologist and find out how often you can get tested.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | February 11, 2021 10:46 PM |
[quote] Thanks for all your good comments. I believe there was some form of alcohol abuse or more accurately, regular "social" drinking coupled with fairly regular solo drinking
I knew someone that was a very nice person - not the healthiest, very much a bear, but didn't seem to have any externally obvious health issues.
About 5 years ago I got a message from mutual friends that his liver was shutting down and he was in hospice. I was stunned.
Apparently, he'd been a really quiet, but seriously heavy drinker. He was a sensitive soul who wanted to change the world. I miss him so much. One of those people I always thought the world of, but never had the time to see him or tell him what he meant to me.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | February 11, 2021 10:49 PM |
Bad movies?
by Anonymous | reply 34 | February 11, 2021 10:52 PM |
r27 what symptoms caused you to get checked? Is there a tumor in the pancreas? Sorry, I don't know.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | February 11, 2021 10:55 PM |
Well you are wrong r14.
There is absolutely a genetic connection with pancreatic cancer. Google it.
Unfortunately sometimes your risk level is outside of your control, just luck of draw.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | February 11, 2021 10:55 PM |
R21, seriously? Where do you think the money comes from? The powerful and rich cucumber growers of America? That’s not how any of this works, ffs!
by Anonymous | reply 37 | February 11, 2021 10:57 PM |
You can't argue with conspiracy theorists r37.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | February 11, 2021 11:00 PM |
People living with HIV have a 50% increased risk for cancers, the big ones are, Kaposi sarcoma, aggressive B-cell non-Hodgkin lymphoma, and cervical cancer. But many cancers are more likely than those without HIV.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | February 11, 2021 11:06 PM |
It’s not a conspiracy theory to question the motivations and possible agendas of those making claims, R38, regardless of whether the claims come from a person or a corporation. You and R37 don’t sound very bright.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | February 11, 2021 11:20 PM |
R39 People with HIV on treatment have extensive blood tests on a regular (at least 6 monthly) basis (liver function, kidney function, diabetes, white cell counts etc). Anything even slightly out of normal results in very thorough investigations.
If your treatment was failing badly enough for you to get KS or PCP Pneumonia they'd be aware before you were.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | February 11, 2021 11:32 PM |
[37] I had gone to my doctor because of occasional abdominal/stomach pain for years. Endoscopies, colonoscopies....the diagnosis was IBS. It would flair up a couple of times a year. In hindsight, it was undiagnosed pancreatitis. The last time, it was particularly painful so my doctor suggested an ultrasound to see if it may be gall bladder, which he had previously ruled out years before. That came back inconclusive so I had a CAT scan. That's when the tumor was found. Wasn't looking for it but there it was! I got a phone call from his office telling me what was found and to make an appointment with a gastroenterologist immediately. That's how it all began.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | February 11, 2021 11:37 PM |
I meant to reply to 35, not 37.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | February 11, 2021 11:39 PM |
I had a close friend in college who went home for summer break after our junior year and less than a month later his mother called me one day to tell me he had died of pancreatic cancer.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | February 12, 2021 12:30 AM |
OP what meds do you take? Supposedly it's the old meds that were the worst for pancreatitis. I'm on Triumeq an NNRTI and it's unlikely to be rough on the pancreas thankfully, those old meds were nasty but they kept people alive.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | February 12, 2021 12:42 AM |
The two people I know who died of Pancreatic Cancer came from families who died of various cancers- breast, ovarian, and pancreas. Both families were Jewish. Everybody who died where in their 50's.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | February 12, 2021 1:08 AM |
This has me worried. I've had issues since my gall bladder removal 7+ yrs ago and may be having chronic pancreatitis. I already take Creon to help digestion.
I know I'm going to pay for not going to the doctor for a year due to COVID. Instead of a quick brutal death from COVID it will get my ass in some other way. : (
by Anonymous | reply 47 | February 12, 2021 1:28 AM |
Alcohol's effect on pancreatic cancer risk is unclear, according to the American Cancer Society.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | February 12, 2021 1:42 AM |
Start eating healthy, don't smoke and avoid distilled alcohol like the plague. Drink in moderation. Wine. and other fermented products like cognac or brandy.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | February 12, 2021 3:04 AM |