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Is Scott Peterson innocent?

I just watched a 6-part documentary series on Prime entitled "The Murder of Laci Peterson". There are a lot of "new" (or, more accurately, recently disclosed) pieces of information that strongly suggest the jury did not have all the facts. Including but not limited to:

-two eye witnesses (husband and wife) who claims to have seen Laci walking thr dog the morning that she should've already been dead. These witnesses go on to state that the police never followed up with them after they reported this - a confrontational stranger who yelled at Laci whilst she walked the barking family dog (stating: make that dog shut up!) Also reported by a witness - the claim that Laci didn't know about his boat, but another witness stating she was at the marina the day before her disappearance who goes on to state she used her bathroom - the fact that a body of her weight, with an anchor, cannot be thrown out of a 14 ft boat without capsizing or at least damaging the boat, as the prosecution asserted (this was simulated several times) - the foreman of the jury was threatened by other jurors who were bent on convicting. It was acknowledged that the foreman, who was a doctor, was highly analytical as would be expected, and initially trusted by the jurors to be the most thorough (hence his appointment to foreman), but when he started leaning toward innocence, he was practically lynched by the rest of the mob and asked the judge to be excused from the jury for fear of his safety, which he was - a very believable alternate scenario emerged when it was revealed that the marina was not secured / gated overnight as was originally postulated, which meant that anyone, even someone without a boat, could have dumped her body - Conner was potentially handled outside of Laci's body as he was found with twine around his neck, wrapped around enough times that would make it unlikely this occurred randomly in the water - 1987-1992 SEVEN (!!!) pregnant women disappeared from the Modesto area, with one just 6 months preceding Laci. Like Laci, she was found in the marina and was disarticulated in EXACTLY the same way as Laci was. Her baby also appeared to be handled outside of the woman's body and had the same twine-style wrapping around its neck - a heavily pregnant woman reports an incident, right before Laci's disappearance, of being stalked and menaced by 2 men who entered her store and appeared to be trying to corner and kidnap her. She called the police immediately and they left before they arrived. She's convinced they were planning on taking her and is haunted by the confrontation to this day.

I was riveted by this case back when it was unfolding and was convinced he was guilty then. Now I'm not so sure. His conviction/presumption of guilt was primarily based on his having a side piece. A cheater he was, but it's obviously a stretch to presume that he can also be a murder based almost solely on this. When you break down the evidence, it's clear that at the very least, there are a lot of questions and credible alternate scenarios. I apologize if there's a pre-existing thread about this, I haven't checked to see if there is.

by Anonymousreply 12105/05/2021

^This should have published in list form, apologies if it's cluttered. Dash denotes new bullet.

by Anonymousreply 102/07/2021

I'd definitely say he's innocent.

by Anonymousreply 202/07/2021

I think he was prone to weight gain so I really don't care what happens to him.

by Anonymousreply 302/07/2021

No.

And no.

by Anonymousreply 402/07/2021

Eye witnesses are not reliable. End of thread.

by Anonymousreply 502/07/2021

Guilty as charged.

by Anonymousreply 602/07/2021

OP, that 2nd paragraph is too much, like a block of text in lower case.

I did watch this series. I did get the impression that evidence against Peterson was scant.

But I also watched a series on the Staircase murder and felt like the presentation was skewed and left out a lot of important info. Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if the Scott Peterson / Netflix series left out a lot of important info.

by Anonymousreply 702/07/2021

Not very compelling eyewitnesses. They sound like they were simply mistaken.

by Anonymousreply 802/07/2021

R7, it is so obvious to me that the owl was responsible for that death. They should have done at least two whole episodes on that, instead of just offering it as a short video extra/addendum.

by Anonymousreply 902/07/2021

I don't think he's innocent but I don't think they proved it. So, yea, innocent only because the prosecution didn't do their job.

by Anonymousreply 1002/07/2021

Did they convict him without a body?

by Anonymousreply 1102/07/2021

R11, no, they did not. His wife’s body washed up on the shore near where Peterson said he had been fishing.

by Anonymousreply 1202/07/2021

Yes, R7, I just watched this. Is he guilt in The Staircase? I thought despite the incident, the family was lovely and the children were so amazing. It turns out Peterson's beautiful sons had a rap sheet prior to the fall.

by Anonymousreply 1302/07/2021

I thought he was getting a new trial this year because that nutty juror with the cartoonish red hair the talking heads called "Strawberry Shortcake" lied on her jury questionnaire about domestic violence.

by Anonymousreply 1402/07/2021

Thanks R7. I realize now that to do point form, (which was my intent) I have to add a space after each point (I'm a newbie).

by Anonymousreply 1502/07/2021

R14, the prosecutor wants to retry the penalty phase to get him re-sentenced to death. Peterson’s going to ask for a new trial as to his guilt, but I do not know how likely he is to get that.

by Anonymousreply 1602/07/2021

Guilty but I do think Amanda Knox is innocent

by Anonymousreply 1702/07/2021

NO! What are you OP, a sucker? Naive? Sheltered? Scott is literally a disgusting monster with no conscience. Read all about both his parents to really understand him. Lacy’s mom should have kicked his mother’s ass, we would have all supported her.

by Anonymousreply 1802/07/2021

I'll never forget him talking to Amber on the phone and he was narrating the fireworks and New Year's celebration in Paris, except he was actually standing at his wife's vigil in California. Cheating doesn't make you a killer, but shit like that makes you a sociopath. He did it.

Also, he has the most annoying voice in the history of the world and I hate him just for that.

by Anonymousreply 1902/07/2021

IDGAF if he's innocent or guilty; he's fine as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 2002/07/2021

I’d eat his ass.

by Anonymousreply 2102/07/2021

Who did it then, if not him? No one else on earth had a motive.

by Anonymousreply 2202/07/2021

Clearly guilty.

The eyewitness sightings have been debunked. The couple who claimed to have seen her in the park were elderly and clearly got the days confused (when they were asked what the weather was like the day they saw her, either they said it was foggy and overcast when actually it was clear but had been foggy the day before, or vice versa - can’t remember which) and the eyewitness who saw her wearing different clothes and pissing on the sidewalk before being thrown into a van clearly saw a totally different woman who just looked like her.

Someone on Reddit did a deep dive into the claim that multiple pregnant women have been attacked/vanished in the area and completely debunked it - some of the attacks/disappearances happened on the other side of the state, some had happened decades before, a couple were legit but clearly committed by the husband who’d been convicted and gone to prison (not unusual for pregnancy to be a trigger for domestic violence), and some of the stories were just plain made up and there was no evidence that women with those names ever existed. The theory that there’s a serial killer in the area preying on pregnant women is not based on anything credible.

by Anonymousreply 2302/07/2021

He WAS fine as fuck, R20. Do we know what he looks like now? He's nearly 50, and prison is not known as a good place to age gracefully, unless you think 48-year-old men look great with extensive tattoos and fauxhawk haircuts.

R16, I think Peterson was probably guilty, but prosecutors like that make me sick. If your state has the death penalty, I suppose the DA has to seek it in certain cases. But if the penalty is thrown out, let it go. How bloodthirsty do you have to be to try to get someone RE-sentenced to death? It's nothing but a shameless pursuit of vengeance, which in turn is nothing but a blatant effort to boost the DA's chances for re-election. Sickening.

by Anonymousreply 2402/07/2021

IMO, the Staircase murder guy (Michael Peterson, not to be confused with convicted murderers Scott Peterson & Drew Peterson), was guilty. Two women died on a staircase? There did seem to be enough evidence.

It's surprising that there was no forensic evidence found at Scott Peterson's house (e.g., cleaned-up blood, etc.). The only people now supporting Scott Peterson now are women. He's good at manipulating women. Lacie's mom initially supported Scott but then came to believe he killed Lacie.

No reason these women (wives of Scott and Michael) should have been murdered, but it was clear that Scott Peterson & Michael Peterson were not marriage material. Ladies: hold out for someone who does want to be married & who does want to have children. I think Lacie was dickmatized.

by Anonymousreply 2502/07/2021

What is with men named Peterson and killing their wives?

by Anonymousreply 2602/07/2021

[quote] IMO, the Staircase murder guy (Michael Peterson, not to be confused with convicted murderers Scott Peterson & Drew Peterson), was guilty. Two women died on a staircase? There did seem to be enough evidence.

Nah, the owl did it. I’m serious. Watch that short video on the Netflix series if you haven’t already. It makes far more sense.

by Anonymousreply 2702/07/2021

Sexy AND innocent!

by Anonymousreply 2802/07/2021

By no means convinced of his innocence, R18, hence the question, and I found the documentary quite well done. Thanks for the tip on the parental history, I'll check it out.

Many great responses all around, some pro sleuths here.

by Anonymousreply 2902/07/2021

I remember when Amber Frey was the most famous woman in America. Hard to believe that was 20 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 3002/07/2021

No OP.

by Anonymousreply 3102/07/2021

I’ll need to see his dick before I can determine his guilt or innocence.

by Anonymousreply 3202/07/2021

R27, Peterson—The Staircase Peterson, that is—had a motive (he was leading a double life) and was connected to another, strangely similar death. The owl theory loses out compared to that, especially when there’s no clear proof that a raptor-type bird was present.

by Anonymousreply 3302/07/2021

Double life involving involving a male escort who had no problem testifying in court (Michael Peterson Staircase murder).

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by Anonymousreply 3402/07/2021

R29/OP, if memory serves (I read a book, maybe by Sharon Rocha?? Maybe Frey’s book?) where there were tapes of Scott’s mom calling Sharon a fucking bitch in the immediate aftermath of Laci’s disappearance. The family publicly stated that Scott had been caught in huge lies, so what other lies did he tell them? So his mom and dad were vile, cruel, mean, and vicious because Sharon and her husband *dared* to call out Scott’s lies. Very GQP-akimbo level hatred. Both his parents, both of them, just oozed hatred on a slow-burner. I also recall something about an orphanage, I think his mother Jackie was abandoned and suffered other traumas that turned her into almost a black widow, just a real piece of work. But the dad was a total snake too! Both the parents helped him try to escape justice, I’m actually surprised they weren’t charged with aiding and abetting. I think he has one sister who turned on him, of course Jackie immediately ostracized her. Sharon and Laci’s brother are both truly courageous people.

Another thing I remember about Sharon is her being quite open about what a diva Laci was....apparently she could never stop talking, to the point that Scott would silently go into a bathroom to escape, and Laci would stand outside the door, oblivious as can be, chattering on and on and on and on. Sharon was very objective about her, she recognized that being married to Laci was likely at times difficult, but her outrage was that, why couldn’t he just divorce Laci? He could have walked away, but had no mercy.

Another Laci detail, she was reeeeeeeally into Martha Stewart, this is when MS was new and a huge deal. Laci was a domestic perfectionist; not easy to deal with in a spouse. I also got the sense that Laci wanted a certain lifestyle, and Scott couldn’t give that to her. All this to say, whatever I read about Laci, her family succeeded in humanizing her to me. Laci was a true frau in every sense of the word — but she also had no greater sin than anything you or I have ever done. She was difficult, but also tried really hard to be a good wife, and in the last month, she clearly knew Scott didn’t love her, and she was carrying his child with that knowledge — it really is a tragedy. Which made Scott’s choice crystal clearly evil.

Yes, I also agree, he’s smoking hot. Fortunately, I have his stupid voice in my head too, so I resist the monster. He’s like a shell. On the outside, he looks like a sexy, chubby preppy. On the inside? It’s just empty, hollow.

by Anonymousreply 3502/07/2021
by Anonymousreply 3602/08/2021

Thanks R35, great detail. I read about his family, agree it's easy to see him becoming a monster with those parents. His sister spoke out as well. An interesting article about her observations here, when he went to stay with them during Laci's disappearance (he was hitting on their babysitter for one).

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by Anonymousreply 3702/09/2021

So glad the Q-tards are visiting us again.

by Anonymousreply 3802/09/2021

He is guilty without a doubt.

I had the pleasure of making his acquaintance while working as a medical consultant at San Quentin. He has a large photo of the woman he killed on his cell wall, and he was reading a big stack of law books (he was planning on becoming a jail house lawyer). He did look good, but was a typical charming sociopath.

by Anonymousreply 3902/09/2021

Oh, and he was on the upper level of the condemned unit (I think it was the 4th or 5th level). I was told he likes the quiet on the top level. It is noisier on the lower levels.

by Anonymousreply 4002/09/2021

R40, now that his death sentence has been vacated, is Scott in the prison general population? That must be quite an adjustment after the peace and quiet of death row's top drawer.

(That California needs multiple levels of cells for death row denizens is idiotic. It's obvious that Californians have no appetite for regularly using the death penalty. Even before his sentence was thrown out, it was more likely that Peterson would die of old age than that he would be executed. Capital punishment should be abolished in CA and throughout America. In most places, people just like saying they have it but in fact hardly ever use it. It's like Grandma's sterling silver tea service but a lot less pretty.)

by Anonymousreply 4102/09/2021

No.

by Anonymousreply 4202/09/2021

R41 the last execution in CA was in 2006. There will probably never be another execution in CA.

Some of these death row inmates would be attacked by other inmates (including Scott) -they are such notorious killers, at least the condemned unit keeps them safe. They have their own cells, and the cells are bigger than the gen pop. They also have access to a special library.

by Anonymousreply 4302/09/2021

Hellooo Amber? Hi, its Scott. I'm in Paris and the fireworks are spectacular!

by Anonymousreply 4402/09/2021

Yeah, if Scott gets out, they should give him a cameo appearance in season 2 of Emily in Paris.

by Anonymousreply 4502/09/2021

R41, preach! America, you don’t look tough, you just look stupid. OBVIOUSLY the criminal justice system is broken. OBVIOUSLY we cannot treat inmates like animals. OBVIOUSLY working in a prison is a brutal way to make a living, so making it more humane isn’t just for the inmates, what about the staffers? The more dehumanizing the conditions for inmates, the more depression, anxiety, and stress for staff (I can’t prove that, but I do believe it based on my experiences visiting prisons/jails through volunteer programs.

I had a meeting a few weeks ago with an executive of a non-profit program inside an institution. He told me that in the old style of managing, the guards would just whip out their tasers to get the guys to do what they wanted, and they would use them too. He had to tell them, “you want him to listen to you? Give him a cookie, not a taser.” Yes, I’m serious.

Not to mention the fact that the vast majority of the incarcerated come from childhoods we cannot begin to understand. No education, no job skills, no social skills, no budgeting skills, no parenting skills, etc. Unbearable loss of parents, siblings, homes, culture, you make it. Addiction is rampart (where we are it’s all heroin offenses).

The privatization of prisons is a crisis, I know Biden is coming down on private prisons that are federal, which is great. Now let’s see governors follow the WH. All this to say, Scott is a monster and I’m glad he’s locked away. Pretty horrifying that he keeps her picture up. Does he have her picture because putting it on the wall is part of his “disguise”? Does he feel anything when he looks at it? I would put money down that he masturbates while fantasizing on the killing and looking at that picture. Sick stuff kids. I’m kind of surprised the prison allowed him to keep that picture up. I think he hated Laci so much, and that’s why he enjoys reliving the killing, Eww.

by Anonymousreply 4602/09/2021

He kind of looks Affleck-y here. But without the alcoholic bloat and moons.

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by Anonymousreply 4702/09/2021

*moobs

Damn you autocorrect!

by Anonymousreply 4802/09/2021

[quote]Yes, I also agree, he’s smoking hot.

Anyone have nude pics of him?

by Anonymousreply 4902/09/2021

R21 Guilty or innocent. Fat or fit. I'd eat dat for days.

by Anonymousreply 5005/01/2021

Scott Peterson was hot AF. Too bad he was such a psycho.

by Anonymousreply 5105/02/2021

Janey Peterson, Scott's sister-IN-LAW (not his sister) seems to be devoting her life to getting him out of jail. I'm not sure how she's related to Scott, but seems like she's in love with him.

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by Anonymousreply 5205/02/2021

OK, Janey is married to Joe Peterson, Scott's brother.

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by Anonymousreply 5305/02/2021

[quote] He has a large photo of the woman he killed on his cell wall

Ugh

by Anonymousreply 5405/02/2021

Joe Peterson is nowhere near as hot as his psycho killer brother.

by Anonymousreply 5505/02/2021

Joe Peterson is definitely jealous. "Why does Scott get all the attention?"

by Anonymousreply 5605/02/2021

[quote]Janey Peterson, Scott's sister-IN-LAW (not his sister) seems to be devoting her life to getting him out of jail. I'm not sure how she's related to Scott, but seems like she's in love with him.

Geez - the homely sister in love with her cute sister's husband - quelle surprise. You know she was madly in love with him and jealous.

by Anonymousreply 5705/02/2021

Didn't he take a boat out in in climate weather that day and she later washed up. Do the math.

by Anonymousreply 5805/02/2021

It's called "inclement" weather.

by Anonymousreply 5905/02/2021

It's called, "Oh, dear!"

by Anonymousreply 6005/03/2021

Male hooker?! I didn’t follow these cases or shows...I just googled the hooker, though, and he’s shockingly ugly present day.

by Anonymousreply 6105/03/2021

Soon after his conviction when there were still a lot of tabloid mags around, ‘the globe’ or something ran a story about how Scott gets DOWN with the gay fucking while in prison. Like he’s insatiable.

by Anonymousreply 6205/03/2021

R61 You might be thinking of the Michael Peterson "Staircase" trial. I don't know of any hookers in Scott's case. The ex-military hustler who took the stand in the M. Peterson trial seemed kind of smarmy, but looked fuckworthy at the time.

by Anonymousreply 6305/04/2021

R62 Murderers need love too! 🤡

by Anonymousreply 6405/04/2021

Don't think I've ever seen the John Wayne Gacy emoji before.

by Anonymousreply 6505/04/2021

Regardless if he's actually innocent, the case always seemed extremely weak to me. He should have been acquitted on the basis of reasonable doubt.

Jury trials are better than a number of their alternatives, but they're still prone to mob rule.

by Anonymousreply 6605/04/2021

Oh please. Spare us. This motherfucker was the guiltiest motherfucker in the history of guilty motherfuckers.

by Anonymousreply 6705/04/2021

No.

No.

Just no.

by Anonymousreply 6805/04/2021

The fake phone call from Paris merits time behind bars.

by Anonymousreply 6905/04/2021

GUILTY.

by Anonymousreply 7005/04/2021

Ah yes, frau sister in law. Random burglars kidnapped and chopped up an 8 month pregnant woman and managed to not leave any evidence behind.

IF he was innocent, even if he'd been planning to divorce, he would've CARED to find out what happened to her.

by Anonymousreply 7105/04/2021

[quote] Random burglars kidnapped and chopped up an 8 month pregnant woman and managed to not leave any evidence behind.

Meanwhile Scott took a random, meaningless boat trip in the same location in which Laci and the fetus later washed up.

by Anonymousreply 7205/04/2021

R72 it's called a COINCIDENCE

by Anonymousreply 7305/04/2021

The concrete blocks fabricated in his rental unit.

Happy New Year from Paris!

by Anonymousreply 7405/04/2021

More details about prison homosex.

by Anonymousreply 7505/04/2021

I can’t imagine how anyone could find him innocent, unless they were crushing on him in the perverted way that many inmates elicit in people with low self-esteem.

by Anonymousreply 7605/04/2021

Do any of these husbands who's wives just happen to disappear ever watch Dateline?

by Anonymousreply 7705/04/2021

Seriously r77. These fuckers are always caught. It is damn near impossible to kill someone in this day and age due to advances in science and technology. I don't know why people even bother anymore.

by Anonymousreply 7805/04/2021

[quote] More details about prison homosex.

Apparently he's good enough at it that they let him keep his front teeth.

by Anonymousreply 7905/04/2021

No, Scott Peterson is not innocent.

by Anonymousreply 8005/04/2021

Scott speaks with annoying vocal fry

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by Anonymousreply 8105/04/2021

He’s no Menendez Brother

by Anonymousreply 8205/04/2021

He would be a hot fuck though

by Anonymousreply 8305/04/2021

Guilty as fuck, hot or otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 8405/04/2021

I always felt guilty for wanting to fuck the shit out of him. God, he was hot. I know, that's terrible.

by Anonymousreply 8505/04/2021

what crime scene people were working the house that didn't find blood spatter evidence with luminol? unless he did a pass out technique on her neck and killed her later down the road (literally). i believe he killed her, i just can't believe there was no blood evidence at the home. Bleach doesn't erase blood.

by Anonymousreply 8605/04/2021

They surmise he probably strangled her in the pool, wrapped her in a tarp, and took her out to sea on the finishing boat. So grim. And on Christmas Eve. Awful.

by Anonymousreply 8705/04/2021

Domestic violence is one of the main killers of pregnant women. Men are nuts and they get crazier when they feel trapped and pissed that they won't be "the baby" anymore.

by Anonymousreply 8805/04/2021

He looks like Ben affleck

by Anonymousreply 8905/04/2021

He saw endless years of fraudom in his future and snapped.

by Anonymousreply 9005/04/2021

I hate they he probably loves being raped in jail. this fuck did this.

by Anonymousreply 9105/04/2021

He's a Scorpio. You just know he's a sex crazed perv, both in and out of prison.

by Anonymousreply 9205/04/2021

He’s in his own cell on death row. You watch too many movies.

by Anonymousreply 9305/04/2021

He's among the death row population, not in solitary.

by Anonymousreply 9405/04/2021

Stupid asshole killed her because he didn't want to pay alimony but she was young and probably would've found another guy to marry within two or three years. Peterson was too short-sighted about the whole thing.

by Anonymousreply 9505/04/2021

Seems like fun

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by Anonymousreply 9605/04/2021

He’s no longer on death row.

by Anonymousreply 9705/04/2021

He must be a real fun dude to hang around with.

by Anonymousreply 9805/04/2021

[quote]It is damn near impossible to kill someone in this day and age due to advances in science and technology.

Joshua Powell did. What a bizarre case that was, from start to the ghastly finish. Susan’s body was never found and they weee never able to bring charges against Josh.

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by Anonymousreply 9905/04/2021

Do you think he has sex with men?

by Anonymousreply 10005/04/2021

I went to several half day sessions of the trial which took place in Redwood City, CA. Nancy Grace was there, and she is (was?) a tiny thing. All the female reporters were very petite.

The selection process for the half day sessions for the public was that at 8 am people would get a paper with a number on it, and in half and hour numbers would be drawn for the 20 or so spaces available to the public. I went to about 6 of them, but was extremely fortunate to be able to hear the prosecutor's final argument, which was absolutely and chillingly brilliant. The prosecutor laid out the timeline for all the significant events, and each time made the point that Scott was planning to kill Laci for some time. The juxtaposition of calls and visits to Amber with buying the boat and calling from "Paris" while the vigil was going on, created an unmistakeable recreation of the series of events, and how there was no other explanation for what he said or did than being guilty in the murder of his wife.

I wish this had been televised because I was blown away by the prosecutor's full day presentation (I was just there for the first but half day). Really an inspired feat of skill. Mark Geragos, Scott's lawyer, was shockingly slimy and wormy, very condescending, and nothing he said made sense.

Amber Fry, poor girl, was very effective and seemingly truthful. Scott had lied to her about everything, in a very sociopathic way. I was in court for the bulk of her testimony.

100% guilty. Sorry I can't be more descriptive, but it has been a long time.

by Anonymousreply 10105/04/2021

Mark Geragos doesn’t seem like a good attorney. Not sure how he got a reputation for being the one to call if you’re in trouble.

by Anonymousreply 10205/04/2021

A beautiful song in tribute to Laci and Connor.

"Mama! These for you!"

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by Anonymousreply 10305/04/2021

Wasn't his killing her more to do with his image than money though I'm sure that played into it. He didn't want kids and didn't want to be married anymore but he also didn't want to be the bad guy who ditches his pregnant wife.

I remember the drama surrounding his arrest. Hair dyed blond, planning to flee to Mexico(?). I think his family was helping him too.

by Anonymousreply 10405/05/2021

He got himself into a mess with frau Laci and her family. What a miserable life in fucking Fresno, California. Probably has a better life in prison.

by Anonymousreply 10505/05/2021

R104 you have to love the idiot brain process. Even if he had gotten away with it, he would've always had the shadow of "first wife vanished". In what world is that better than "I got a divorce while she was pregnant"

by Anonymousreply 10605/05/2021

It was something I read R106. It wasn't my "brain process".

by Anonymousreply 10705/05/2021

Guilty (and I think Amanda Knox was guilty too).

by Anonymousreply 10805/05/2021

R107 I meant Scott's brain process, not yours. He didn't want to be married to Laci or be a dad, but he had to be beyond stupid to think deadbeat dad was worse than "that guy whose pregnant wife vanished"

by Anonymousreply 10905/05/2021

I have no expertise except this--

As the owner of a 15ft boat, I can tell you it is possible to throw heavy things out of the boat without "breaking" the boat or capsizing. (And I have a very light fiberglass hull boat--not a metal fishing one.)

by Anonymousreply 11005/05/2021

^^my boat is a sailboat with a light and very shallow build and not meant to have people standing in it. Fishing boats, usually made of aluminum or steel, are heavier and ARE designed to have a person (who is fishing) standing in them and pulling in a weight (big fish on a line).

I call my friends human sandbags when they're in my boat. (As in, "be prepared to switch sides!") And still, never capsized! Even when people jump out to swim.

by Anonymousreply 11105/05/2021

[quote] I always felt guilty for wanting to fuck the shit out of him. God, he was hot. I know, that's terrible.

You're forgiven. Thing is he was equally fuckable in all his permutations, chubby hubby, bleached bum, clean-cut defendant, boyish inner-fem inmate. Still trying to find the 18-page letter written by the death row daddy who turned him.

by Anonymousreply 11205/05/2021

No.

Unless "the real killer" is chillin' in the Real Killers Trailer Park with TRKs of Family MacDonald, Nicole and Ron, and JBR.

by Anonymousreply 11305/05/2021

Here's the Radaronline article about SP and his prison protection BF. The link to the 18-page letter from prison bae is dead.

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by Anonymousreply 11405/05/2021

As innocent as Chris Watts!

by Anonymousreply 11505/05/2021

Psychopathic SP couldn't stand one minute more the thought of decades acting the straight husband and father.

by Anonymousreply 11605/05/2021

I always wondered about the amount of bleach. If he merely strangled her why so much bleach especially if, as some suggested, she was killed in the pool. I think he killed her while she was sleeping.

by Anonymousreply 11705/05/2021

[quote] Stupid asshole killed her because he didn't want to pay alimony but she was young and probably would've found another guy to marry within two or three years.

What about child support? No escaping that.

by Anonymousreply 11805/05/2021

What's bro Joe smiling at, in r53? He's entering the courtroom where his brother.....you know. Calls for a serious mien.

by Anonymousreply 11905/05/2021

TLDR; and no.

by Anonymousreply 12005/05/2021

I wonder if I could actually fuck a murderous sociopath narcissist? -5% chance. Prob not even with a gun to my head.

by Anonymousreply 12105/05/2021
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