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Is Scott Peterson innocent?

I just watched a 6-part documentary series on Prime entitled "The Murder of Laci Peterson". There are a lot of "new" (or, more accurately, recently disclosed) pieces of information that strongly suggest the jury did not have all the facts. Including but not limited to:

-two eye witnesses (husband and wife) who claims to have seen Laci walking thr dog the morning that she should've already been dead. These witnesses go on to state that the police never followed up with them after they reported this - a confrontational stranger who yelled at Laci whilst she walked the barking family dog (stating: make that dog shut up!) Also reported by a witness - the claim that Laci didn't know about his boat, but another witness stating she was at the marina the day before her disappearance who goes on to state she used her bathroom - the fact that a body of her weight, with an anchor, cannot be thrown out of a 14 ft boat without capsizing or at least damaging the boat, as the prosecution asserted (this was simulated several times) - the foreman of the jury was threatened by other jurors who were bent on convicting. It was acknowledged that the foreman, who was a doctor, was highly analytical as would be expected, and initially trusted by the jurors to be the most thorough (hence his appointment to foreman), but when he started leaning toward innocence, he was practically lynched by the rest of the mob and asked the judge to be excused from the jury for fear of his safety, which he was - a very believable alternate scenario emerged when it was revealed that the marina was not secured / gated overnight as was originally postulated, which meant that anyone, even someone without a boat, could have dumped her body - Conner was potentially handled outside of Laci's body as he was found with twine around his neck, wrapped around enough times that would make it unlikely this occurred randomly in the water - 1987-1992 SEVEN (!!!) pregnant women disappeared from the Modesto area, with one just 6 months preceding Laci. Like Laci, she was found in the marina and was disarticulated in EXACTLY the same way as Laci was. Her baby also appeared to be handled outside of the woman's body and had the same twine-style wrapping around its neck - a heavily pregnant woman reports an incident, right before Laci's disappearance, of being stalked and menaced by 2 men who entered her store and appeared to be trying to corner and kidnap her. She called the police immediately and they left before they arrived. She's convinced they were planning on taking her and is haunted by the confrontation to this day.

I was riveted by this case back when it was unfolding and was convinced he was guilty then. Now I'm not so sure. His conviction/presumption of guilt was primarily based on his having a side piece. A cheater he was, but it's obviously a stretch to presume that he can also be a murder based almost solely on this. When you break down the evidence, it's clear that at the very least, there are a lot of questions and credible alternate scenarios. I apologize if there's a pre-existing thread about this, I haven't checked to see if there is.

by Anonymousreply 148December 9, 2021 4:59 PM

^This should have published in list form, apologies if it's cluttered. Dash denotes new bullet.

by Anonymousreply 1February 7, 2021 10:48 PM

I'd definitely say he's innocent.

by Anonymousreply 2February 7, 2021 10:51 PM

I think he was prone to weight gain so I really don't care what happens to him.

by Anonymousreply 3February 7, 2021 10:51 PM

No.

And no.

by Anonymousreply 4February 7, 2021 10:52 PM

Eye witnesses are not reliable. End of thread.

by Anonymousreply 5February 7, 2021 10:58 PM

Guilty as charged.

by Anonymousreply 6February 7, 2021 11:00 PM

OP, that 2nd paragraph is too much, like a block of text in lower case.

I did watch this series. I did get the impression that evidence against Peterson was scant.

But I also watched a series on the Staircase murder and felt like the presentation was skewed and left out a lot of important info. Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if the Scott Peterson / Netflix series left out a lot of important info.

by Anonymousreply 7February 7, 2021 11:00 PM

Not very compelling eyewitnesses. They sound like they were simply mistaken.

by Anonymousreply 8February 7, 2021 11:01 PM

R7, it is so obvious to me that the owl was responsible for that death. They should have done at least two whole episodes on that, instead of just offering it as a short video extra/addendum.

by Anonymousreply 9February 7, 2021 11:02 PM

I don't think he's innocent but I don't think they proved it. So, yea, innocent only because the prosecution didn't do their job.

by Anonymousreply 10February 7, 2021 11:22 PM

Did they convict him without a body?

by Anonymousreply 11February 7, 2021 11:24 PM

R11, no, they did not. His wife’s body washed up on the shore near where Peterson said he had been fishing.

by Anonymousreply 12February 7, 2021 11:31 PM

Yes, R7, I just watched this. Is he guilt in The Staircase? I thought despite the incident, the family was lovely and the children were so amazing. It turns out Peterson's beautiful sons had a rap sheet prior to the fall.

by Anonymousreply 13February 7, 2021 11:32 PM

I thought he was getting a new trial this year because that nutty juror with the cartoonish red hair the talking heads called "Strawberry Shortcake" lied on her jury questionnaire about domestic violence.

by Anonymousreply 14February 7, 2021 11:33 PM

Thanks R7. I realize now that to do point form, (which was my intent) I have to add a space after each point (I'm a newbie).

by Anonymousreply 15February 7, 2021 11:38 PM

R14, the prosecutor wants to retry the penalty phase to get him re-sentenced to death. Peterson’s going to ask for a new trial as to his guilt, but I do not know how likely he is to get that.

by Anonymousreply 16February 7, 2021 11:45 PM

Guilty but I do think Amanda Knox is innocent

by Anonymousreply 17February 7, 2021 11:45 PM

NO! What are you OP, a sucker? Naive? Sheltered? Scott is literally a disgusting monster with no conscience. Read all about both his parents to really understand him. Lacy’s mom should have kicked his mother’s ass, we would have all supported her.

by Anonymousreply 18February 7, 2021 11:50 PM

I'll never forget him talking to Amber on the phone and he was narrating the fireworks and New Year's celebration in Paris, except he was actually standing at his wife's vigil in California. Cheating doesn't make you a killer, but shit like that makes you a sociopath. He did it.

Also, he has the most annoying voice in the history of the world and I hate him just for that.

by Anonymousreply 19February 7, 2021 11:51 PM

IDGAF if he's innocent or guilty; he's fine as fuck.

by Anonymousreply 20February 7, 2021 11:52 PM

I’d eat his ass.

by Anonymousreply 21February 7, 2021 11:55 PM

Who did it then, if not him? No one else on earth had a motive.

by Anonymousreply 22February 7, 2021 11:55 PM

Clearly guilty.

The eyewitness sightings have been debunked. The couple who claimed to have seen her in the park were elderly and clearly got the days confused (when they were asked what the weather was like the day they saw her, either they said it was foggy and overcast when actually it was clear but had been foggy the day before, or vice versa - can’t remember which) and the eyewitness who saw her wearing different clothes and pissing on the sidewalk before being thrown into a van clearly saw a totally different woman who just looked like her.

Someone on Reddit did a deep dive into the claim that multiple pregnant women have been attacked/vanished in the area and completely debunked it - some of the attacks/disappearances happened on the other side of the state, some had happened decades before, a couple were legit but clearly committed by the husband who’d been convicted and gone to prison (not unusual for pregnancy to be a trigger for domestic violence), and some of the stories were just plain made up and there was no evidence that women with those names ever existed. The theory that there’s a serial killer in the area preying on pregnant women is not based on anything credible.

by Anonymousreply 23February 7, 2021 11:56 PM

He WAS fine as fuck, R20. Do we know what he looks like now? He's nearly 50, and prison is not known as a good place to age gracefully, unless you think 48-year-old men look great with extensive tattoos and fauxhawk haircuts.

R16, I think Peterson was probably guilty, but prosecutors like that make me sick. If your state has the death penalty, I suppose the DA has to seek it in certain cases. But if the penalty is thrown out, let it go. How bloodthirsty do you have to be to try to get someone RE-sentenced to death? It's nothing but a shameless pursuit of vengeance, which in turn is nothing but a blatant effort to boost the DA's chances for re-election. Sickening.

by Anonymousreply 24February 8, 2021 12:00 AM

IMO, the Staircase murder guy (Michael Peterson, not to be confused with convicted murderers Scott Peterson & Drew Peterson), was guilty. Two women died on a staircase? There did seem to be enough evidence.

It's surprising that there was no forensic evidence found at Scott Peterson's house (e.g., cleaned-up blood, etc.). The only people now supporting Scott Peterson now are women. He's good at manipulating women. Lacie's mom initially supported Scott but then came to believe he killed Lacie.

No reason these women (wives of Scott and Michael) should have been murdered, but it was clear that Scott Peterson & Michael Peterson were not marriage material. Ladies: hold out for someone who does want to be married & who does want to have children. I think Lacie was dickmatized.

by Anonymousreply 25February 8, 2021 12:07 AM

What is with men named Peterson and killing their wives?

by Anonymousreply 26February 8, 2021 12:16 AM

[quote] IMO, the Staircase murder guy (Michael Peterson, not to be confused with convicted murderers Scott Peterson & Drew Peterson), was guilty. Two women died on a staircase? There did seem to be enough evidence.

Nah, the owl did it. I’m serious. Watch that short video on the Netflix series if you haven’t already. It makes far more sense.

by Anonymousreply 27February 8, 2021 12:21 AM

Sexy AND innocent!

by Anonymousreply 28February 8, 2021 12:34 AM

By no means convinced of his innocence, R18, hence the question, and I found the documentary quite well done. Thanks for the tip on the parental history, I'll check it out.

Many great responses all around, some pro sleuths here.

by Anonymousreply 29February 8, 2021 12:38 AM

I remember when Amber Frey was the most famous woman in America. Hard to believe that was 20 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 30February 8, 2021 12:42 AM

No OP.

by Anonymousreply 31February 8, 2021 12:56 AM

I’ll need to see his dick before I can determine his guilt or innocence.

by Anonymousreply 32February 8, 2021 1:12 AM

R27, Peterson—The Staircase Peterson, that is—had a motive (he was leading a double life) and was connected to another, strangely similar death. The owl theory loses out compared to that, especially when there’s no clear proof that a raptor-type bird was present.

by Anonymousreply 33February 8, 2021 1:28 AM

Double life involving involving a male escort who had no problem testifying in court (Michael Peterson Staircase murder).

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by Anonymousreply 34February 8, 2021 1:30 AM

R29/OP, if memory serves (I read a book, maybe by Sharon Rocha?? Maybe Frey’s book?) where there were tapes of Scott’s mom calling Sharon a fucking bitch in the immediate aftermath of Laci’s disappearance. The family publicly stated that Scott had been caught in huge lies, so what other lies did he tell them? So his mom and dad were vile, cruel, mean, and vicious because Sharon and her husband *dared* to call out Scott’s lies. Very GQP-akimbo level hatred. Both his parents, both of them, just oozed hatred on a slow-burner. I also recall something about an orphanage, I think his mother Jackie was abandoned and suffered other traumas that turned her into almost a black widow, just a real piece of work. But the dad was a total snake too! Both the parents helped him try to escape justice, I’m actually surprised they weren’t charged with aiding and abetting. I think he has one sister who turned on him, of course Jackie immediately ostracized her. Sharon and Laci’s brother are both truly courageous people.

Another thing I remember about Sharon is her being quite open about what a diva Laci was....apparently she could never stop talking, to the point that Scott would silently go into a bathroom to escape, and Laci would stand outside the door, oblivious as can be, chattering on and on and on and on. Sharon was very objective about her, she recognized that being married to Laci was likely at times difficult, but her outrage was that, why couldn’t he just divorce Laci? He could have walked away, but had no mercy.

Another Laci detail, she was reeeeeeeally into Martha Stewart, this is when MS was new and a huge deal. Laci was a domestic perfectionist; not easy to deal with in a spouse. I also got the sense that Laci wanted a certain lifestyle, and Scott couldn’t give that to her. All this to say, whatever I read about Laci, her family succeeded in humanizing her to me. Laci was a true frau in every sense of the word — but she also had no greater sin than anything you or I have ever done. She was difficult, but also tried really hard to be a good wife, and in the last month, she clearly knew Scott didn’t love her, and she was carrying his child with that knowledge — it really is a tragedy. Which made Scott’s choice crystal clearly evil.

Yes, I also agree, he’s smoking hot. Fortunately, I have his stupid voice in my head too, so I resist the monster. He’s like a shell. On the outside, he looks like a sexy, chubby preppy. On the inside? It’s just empty, hollow.

by Anonymousreply 35February 8, 2021 2:26 AM
by Anonymousreply 36February 8, 2021 1:35 PM

Thanks R35, great detail. I read about his family, agree it's easy to see him becoming a monster with those parents. His sister spoke out as well. An interesting article about her observations here, when he went to stay with them during Laci's disappearance (he was hitting on their babysitter for one).

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by Anonymousreply 37February 9, 2021 10:00 PM

So glad the Q-tards are visiting us again.

by Anonymousreply 38February 9, 2021 11:31 PM

He is guilty without a doubt.

I had the pleasure of making his acquaintance while working as a medical consultant at San Quentin. He has a large photo of the woman he killed on his cell wall, and he was reading a big stack of law books (he was planning on becoming a jail house lawyer). He did look good, but was a typical charming sociopath.

by Anonymousreply 39February 10, 2021 12:01 AM

Oh, and he was on the upper level of the condemned unit (I think it was the 4th or 5th level). I was told he likes the quiet on the top level. It is noisier on the lower levels.

by Anonymousreply 40February 10, 2021 12:03 AM

R40, now that his death sentence has been vacated, is Scott in the prison general population? That must be quite an adjustment after the peace and quiet of death row's top drawer.

(That California needs multiple levels of cells for death row denizens is idiotic. It's obvious that Californians have no appetite for regularly using the death penalty. Even before his sentence was thrown out, it was more likely that Peterson would die of old age than that he would be executed. Capital punishment should be abolished in CA and throughout America. In most places, people just like saying they have it but in fact hardly ever use it. It's like Grandma's sterling silver tea service but a lot less pretty.)

by Anonymousreply 41February 10, 2021 12:27 AM

No.

by Anonymousreply 42February 10, 2021 12:33 AM

R41 the last execution in CA was in 2006. There will probably never be another execution in CA.

Some of these death row inmates would be attacked by other inmates (including Scott) -they are such notorious killers, at least the condemned unit keeps them safe. They have their own cells, and the cells are bigger than the gen pop. They also have access to a special library.

by Anonymousreply 43February 10, 2021 12:47 AM

Hellooo Amber? Hi, its Scott. I'm in Paris and the fireworks are spectacular!

by Anonymousreply 44February 10, 2021 2:18 AM

Yeah, if Scott gets out, they should give him a cameo appearance in season 2 of Emily in Paris.

by Anonymousreply 45February 10, 2021 2:31 AM

R41, preach! America, you don’t look tough, you just look stupid. OBVIOUSLY the criminal justice system is broken. OBVIOUSLY we cannot treat inmates like animals. OBVIOUSLY working in a prison is a brutal way to make a living, so making it more humane isn’t just for the inmates, what about the staffers? The more dehumanizing the conditions for inmates, the more depression, anxiety, and stress for staff (I can’t prove that, but I do believe it based on my experiences visiting prisons/jails through volunteer programs.

I had a meeting a few weeks ago with an executive of a non-profit program inside an institution. He told me that in the old style of managing, the guards would just whip out their tasers to get the guys to do what they wanted, and they would use them too. He had to tell them, “you want him to listen to you? Give him a cookie, not a taser.” Yes, I’m serious.

Not to mention the fact that the vast majority of the incarcerated come from childhoods we cannot begin to understand. No education, no job skills, no social skills, no budgeting skills, no parenting skills, etc. Unbearable loss of parents, siblings, homes, culture, you make it. Addiction is rampart (where we are it’s all heroin offenses).

The privatization of prisons is a crisis, I know Biden is coming down on private prisons that are federal, which is great. Now let’s see governors follow the WH. All this to say, Scott is a monster and I’m glad he’s locked away. Pretty horrifying that he keeps her picture up. Does he have her picture because putting it on the wall is part of his “disguise”? Does he feel anything when he looks at it? I would put money down that he masturbates while fantasizing on the killing and looking at that picture. Sick stuff kids. I’m kind of surprised the prison allowed him to keep that picture up. I think he hated Laci so much, and that’s why he enjoys reliving the killing, Eww.

by Anonymousreply 46February 10, 2021 3:31 AM

He kind of looks Affleck-y here. But without the alcoholic bloat and moons.

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by Anonymousreply 47February 10, 2021 4:36 AM

*moobs

Damn you autocorrect!

by Anonymousreply 48February 10, 2021 4:37 AM

[quote]Yes, I also agree, he’s smoking hot.

Anyone have nude pics of him?

by Anonymousreply 49February 10, 2021 5:13 AM

R21 Guilty or innocent. Fat or fit. I'd eat dat for days.

by Anonymousreply 50May 2, 2021 5:53 AM

Scott Peterson was hot AF. Too bad he was such a psycho.

by Anonymousreply 51May 3, 2021 12:37 AM

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by Anonymousreply 52May 3, 2021 12:42 AM

OK, Janey is married to Joe Peterson, Scott's brother.

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by Anonymousreply 53May 3, 2021 12:46 AM

[quote] He has a large photo of the woman he killed on his cell wall

Ugh

by Anonymousreply 54May 3, 2021 12:47 AM

Joe Peterson is nowhere near as hot as his psycho killer brother.

by Anonymousreply 55May 3, 2021 12:52 AM

Joe Peterson is definitely jealous. "Why does Scott get all the attention?"

by Anonymousreply 56May 3, 2021 12:52 AM

[quote]Janey Peterson, Scott's sister-IN-LAW (not his sister) seems to be devoting her life to getting him out of jail. I'm not sure how she's related to Scott, but seems like she's in love with him.

Geez - the homely sister in love with her cute sister's husband - quelle surprise. You know she was madly in love with him and jealous.

by Anonymousreply 57May 3, 2021 1:08 AM

Didn't he take a boat out in in climate weather that day and she later washed up. Do the math.

by Anonymousreply 58May 3, 2021 1:18 AM

It's called "inclement" weather.

by Anonymousreply 59May 3, 2021 1:21 AM

It's called, "Oh, dear!"

by Anonymousreply 60May 3, 2021 8:52 AM

Male hooker?! I didn’t follow these cases or shows...I just googled the hooker, though, and he’s shockingly ugly present day.

by Anonymousreply 61May 3, 2021 9:20 AM

Soon after his conviction when there were still a lot of tabloid mags around, ‘the globe’ or something ran a story about how Scott gets DOWN with the gay fucking while in prison. Like he’s insatiable.

by Anonymousreply 62May 3, 2021 9:25 AM

R61 You might be thinking of the Michael Peterson "Staircase" trial. I don't know of any hookers in Scott's case. The ex-military hustler who took the stand in the M. Peterson trial seemed kind of smarmy, but looked fuckworthy at the time.

by Anonymousreply 63May 4, 2021 10:36 PM

R62 Murderers need love too! 🤡

by Anonymousreply 64May 4, 2021 10:41 PM

Don't think I've ever seen the John Wayne Gacy emoji before.

by Anonymousreply 65May 4, 2021 10:47 PM

Regardless if he's actually innocent, the case always seemed extremely weak to me. He should have been acquitted on the basis of reasonable doubt.

Jury trials are better than a number of their alternatives, but they're still prone to mob rule.

by Anonymousreply 66May 4, 2021 10:47 PM

Oh please. Spare us. This motherfucker was the guiltiest motherfucker in the history of guilty motherfuckers.

by Anonymousreply 67May 4, 2021 10:49 PM

No.

No.

Just no.

by Anonymousreply 68May 4, 2021 10:51 PM

The fake phone call from Paris merits time behind bars.

by Anonymousreply 69May 4, 2021 10:52 PM

GUILTY.

by Anonymousreply 70May 4, 2021 10:53 PM

Ah yes, frau sister in law. Random burglars kidnapped and chopped up an 8 month pregnant woman and managed to not leave any evidence behind.

IF he was innocent, even if he'd been planning to divorce, he would've CARED to find out what happened to her.

by Anonymousreply 71May 4, 2021 10:54 PM

[quote] Random burglars kidnapped and chopped up an 8 month pregnant woman and managed to not leave any evidence behind.

Meanwhile Scott took a random, meaningless boat trip in the same location in which Laci and the fetus later washed up.

by Anonymousreply 72May 4, 2021 10:57 PM

R72 it's called a COINCIDENCE

by Anonymousreply 73May 4, 2021 11:01 PM

The concrete blocks fabricated in his rental unit.

Happy New Year from Paris!

by Anonymousreply 74May 4, 2021 11:05 PM

More details about prison homosex.

by Anonymousreply 75May 4, 2021 11:33 PM

I can’t imagine how anyone could find him innocent, unless they were crushing on him in the perverted way that many inmates elicit in people with low self-esteem.

by Anonymousreply 76May 4, 2021 11:59 PM

Do any of these husbands who's wives just happen to disappear ever watch Dateline?

by Anonymousreply 77May 5, 2021 12:48 AM

Seriously r77. These fuckers are always caught. It is damn near impossible to kill someone in this day and age due to advances in science and technology. I don't know why people even bother anymore.

by Anonymousreply 78May 5, 2021 1:25 AM

[quote] More details about prison homosex.

Apparently he's good enough at it that they let him keep his front teeth.

by Anonymousreply 79May 5, 2021 4:40 AM

No, Scott Peterson is not innocent.

by Anonymousreply 80May 5, 2021 4:42 AM

Scott speaks with annoying vocal fry

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by Anonymousreply 81May 5, 2021 4:51 AM

He’s no Menendez Brother

by Anonymousreply 82May 5, 2021 5:11 AM

He would be a hot fuck though

by Anonymousreply 83May 5, 2021 5:14 AM

Guilty as fuck, hot or otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 84May 5, 2021 5:26 AM

I always felt guilty for wanting to fuck the shit out of him. God, he was hot. I know, that's terrible.

by Anonymousreply 85May 5, 2021 5:37 AM

what crime scene people were working the house that didn't find blood spatter evidence with luminol? unless he did a pass out technique on her neck and killed her later down the road (literally). i believe he killed her, i just can't believe there was no blood evidence at the home. Bleach doesn't erase blood.

by Anonymousreply 86May 5, 2021 5:40 AM

They surmise he probably strangled her in the pool, wrapped her in a tarp, and took her out to sea on the finishing boat. So grim. And on Christmas Eve. Awful.

by Anonymousreply 87May 5, 2021 5:46 AM

Domestic violence is one of the main killers of pregnant women. Men are nuts and they get crazier when they feel trapped and pissed that they won't be "the baby" anymore.

by Anonymousreply 88May 5, 2021 5:55 AM

He looks like Ben affleck

by Anonymousreply 89May 5, 2021 5:57 AM

He saw endless years of fraudom in his future and snapped.

by Anonymousreply 90May 5, 2021 5:59 AM

I hate they he probably loves being raped in jail. this fuck did this.

by Anonymousreply 91May 5, 2021 6:00 AM

He's a Scorpio. You just know he's a sex crazed perv, both in and out of prison.

by Anonymousreply 92May 5, 2021 6:01 AM

He’s in his own cell on death row. You watch too many movies.

by Anonymousreply 93May 5, 2021 6:09 AM

He's among the death row population, not in solitary.

by Anonymousreply 94May 5, 2021 6:14 AM

Stupid asshole killed her because he didn't want to pay alimony but she was young and probably would've found another guy to marry within two or three years. Peterson was too short-sighted about the whole thing.

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by Anonymousreply 96May 5, 2021 6:20 AM

He’s no longer on death row.

by Anonymousreply 97May 5, 2021 6:22 AM

He must be a real fun dude to hang around with.

by Anonymousreply 98May 5, 2021 6:29 AM

[quote]It is damn near impossible to kill someone in this day and age due to advances in science and technology.

Joshua Powell did. What a bizarre case that was, from start to the ghastly finish. Susan’s body was never found and they weee never able to bring charges against Josh.

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by Anonymousreply 99May 5, 2021 6:32 AM

Do you think he has sex with men?

by Anonymousreply 100May 5, 2021 6:33 AM

I went to several half day sessions of the trial which took place in Redwood City, CA. Nancy Grace was there, and she is (was?) a tiny thing. All the female reporters were very petite.

The selection process for the half day sessions for the public was that at 8 am people would get a paper with a number on it, and in half and hour numbers would be drawn for the 20 or so spaces available to the public. I went to about 6 of them, but was extremely fortunate to be able to hear the prosecutor's final argument, which was absolutely and chillingly brilliant. The prosecutor laid out the timeline for all the significant events, and each time made the point that Scott was planning to kill Laci for some time. The juxtaposition of calls and visits to Amber with buying the boat and calling from "Paris" while the vigil was going on, created an unmistakeable recreation of the series of events, and how there was no other explanation for what he said or did than being guilty in the murder of his wife.

I wish this had been televised because I was blown away by the prosecutor's full day presentation (I was just there for the first but half day). Really an inspired feat of skill. Mark Geragos, Scott's lawyer, was shockingly slimy and wormy, very condescending, and nothing he said made sense.

Amber Fry, poor girl, was very effective and seemingly truthful. Scott had lied to her about everything, in a very sociopathic way. I was in court for the bulk of her testimony.

100% guilty. Sorry I can't be more descriptive, but it has been a long time.

by Anonymousreply 101May 5, 2021 6:42 AM

Mark Geragos doesn’t seem like a good attorney. Not sure how he got a reputation for being the one to call if you’re in trouble.

by Anonymousreply 102May 5, 2021 7:03 AM

A beautiful song in tribute to Laci and Connor.

"Mama! These for you!"

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by Anonymousreply 103May 5, 2021 7:08 AM

Wasn't his killing her more to do with his image than money though I'm sure that played into it. He didn't want kids and didn't want to be married anymore but he also didn't want to be the bad guy who ditches his pregnant wife.

I remember the drama surrounding his arrest. Hair dyed blond, planning to flee to Mexico(?). I think his family was helping him too.

by Anonymousreply 104May 5, 2021 5:55 PM

He got himself into a mess with frau Laci and her family. What a miserable life in fucking Fresno, California. Probably has a better life in prison.

by Anonymousreply 105May 5, 2021 6:05 PM

R104 you have to love the idiot brain process. Even if he had gotten away with it, he would've always had the shadow of "first wife vanished". In what world is that better than "I got a divorce while she was pregnant"

by Anonymousreply 106May 5, 2021 6:19 PM

It was something I read R106. It wasn't my "brain process".

by Anonymousreply 107May 5, 2021 7:03 PM

Guilty (and I think Amanda Knox was guilty too).

by Anonymousreply 108May 5, 2021 7:07 PM

R107 I meant Scott's brain process, not yours. He didn't want to be married to Laci or be a dad, but he had to be beyond stupid to think deadbeat dad was worse than "that guy whose pregnant wife vanished"

by Anonymousreply 109May 5, 2021 7:14 PM

I have no expertise except this--

As the owner of a 15ft boat, I can tell you it is possible to throw heavy things out of the boat without "breaking" the boat or capsizing. (And I have a very light fiberglass hull boat--not a metal fishing one.)

by Anonymousreply 110May 5, 2021 7:15 PM

^^my boat is a sailboat with a light and very shallow build and not meant to have people standing in it. Fishing boats, usually made of aluminum or steel, are heavier and ARE designed to have a person (who is fishing) standing in them and pulling in a weight (big fish on a line).

I call my friends human sandbags when they're in my boat. (As in, "be prepared to switch sides!") And still, never capsized! Even when people jump out to swim.

by Anonymousreply 111May 5, 2021 7:30 PM

[quote] I always felt guilty for wanting to fuck the shit out of him. God, he was hot. I know, that's terrible.

You're forgiven. Thing is he was equally fuckable in all his permutations, chubby hubby, bleached bum, clean-cut defendant, boyish inner-fem inmate. Still trying to find the 18-page letter written by the death row daddy who turned him.

by Anonymousreply 112May 5, 2021 7:52 PM

No.

Unless "the real killer" is chillin' in the Real Killers Trailer Park with TRKs of Family MacDonald, Nicole and Ron, and JBR.

by Anonymousreply 113May 5, 2021 7:56 PM

Here's the Radaronline article about SP and his prison protection BF. The link to the 18-page letter from prison bae is dead.

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by Anonymousreply 114May 5, 2021 8:20 PM

As innocent as Chris Watts!

by Anonymousreply 115May 5, 2021 8:32 PM

Psychopathic SP couldn't stand one minute more the thought of decades acting the straight husband and father.

by Anonymousreply 116May 5, 2021 8:52 PM

I always wondered about the amount of bleach. If he merely strangled her why so much bleach especially if, as some suggested, she was killed in the pool. I think he killed her while she was sleeping.

by Anonymousreply 117May 5, 2021 8:57 PM

[quote] Stupid asshole killed her because he didn't want to pay alimony but she was young and probably would've found another guy to marry within two or three years.

What about child support? No escaping that.

by Anonymousreply 118May 5, 2021 9:00 PM

What's bro Joe smiling at, in r53? He's entering the courtroom where his brother.....you know. Calls for a serious mien.

by Anonymousreply 119May 5, 2021 9:02 PM

TLDR; and no.

by Anonymousreply 120May 5, 2021 9:14 PM

I wonder if I could actually fuck a murderous sociopath narcissist? -5% chance. Prob not even with a gun to my head.

by Anonymousreply 121May 6, 2021 12:16 AM

No, OP.

by Anonymousreply 122May 18, 2021 4:07 PM

I had hoped r121 had breaking news.....

by Anonymousreply 123May 18, 2021 4:47 PM

Probably guilty but don't think they proved it.

by Anonymousreply 124May 18, 2021 6:35 PM

Dean Cain played him in a Lifetime movie. I feel Scott should be punished for that alone.

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by Anonymousreply 125May 18, 2021 6:47 PM

The "docu-series" fueled by Janey Peterson does an excellent job of creating doubt. Yet, its most convincing elements weren't admissible or relevant in court for good reason.

There were flaws with the whole process, certainly. But, those familiar with the case, know that Scott Peterson is guilty. If Peterson wasn't "hot," then less people would be duped by the series.

Let me break it down for you. The two Caucasian burglars robbed the house in the early hours of 26 December (after mistakenly saying it was 27 December). Steven Todd was able to describe the limited media presence (at that hour). The vehicle used to take the Medina safe was a 4-door Honda. Neighbour Diane Jackson says she saw (3) dark-complected robbers and an off-white van on 24 December around 11:30 AM, which doesn't coincide with any of the facts.

by Anonymousreply 126June 14, 2021 10:05 AM

I still believe he murdered her in the pool. Such a heinous crime.

by Anonymousreply 127June 15, 2021 3:56 AM

R127. It could explain the lack of DNA. I would think she would have lost control over body fluids and something would have gotten left behind, etc.

But, how would he get her into the pool to begin with? In December? When she is is eight months pregnant and is getting ready for next day's bunch and has a lot on her plate?

by Anonymousreply 128June 21, 2021 11:11 AM

There are a lot of innocent people in jail, and a lot of guilty people who go free. This is for two reasons.

#1 Prosectors have unlimited tax funds to spend if they really want to get someone. See e.g. Derek Chauvin trial.

#2 Intelligent people are routinely excluded from jury duty. See e.g. O.J. Simpson trial.

by Anonymousreply 129June 21, 2021 11:30 AM

Scott's not one of them.

by Anonymousreply 130June 21, 2021 2:22 PM

Is he guilty. I don't know. Probably. But that doesn't matter.

Was there sufficient evidence to convict him? No. There was sufficient emotional outrage.

by Anonymousreply 131June 21, 2021 4:16 PM

No, he is not, OP

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by Anonymousreply 132December 9, 2021 9:04 AM

He 100% percent did it. You'd have to be retarded to not get that. He was the original Chris watts.

-Told his mistress he "lost" his wife weeks before she went missing -Told his mistress this would be Christmas without Laci and it was -Bought a boat literally the day after being confronted about being married by Amber's friend -Told Amber Frey he didn't want to be a dad and wanted a vasectomy while his wife was pregnant at home -Was talking to his mistress on the phone at his wife's candlelight vigil while Laci's family broke down on stage. He didn't shed a tear.

This man was miserable with his life and didn't want that baby, much like Chris Watts.

All the people claiming they saw Laci are full of it. Many people were convinced they saw Brian Laundry, but we know they were all false reports now. One even claimed to have had a conversation with him lol. Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable. I don't give it much weight at all. And the stuff about the boat is highly disputed. It's largely the family's lawyers that have been putting that stuff out.

The police did overreach in their attempts to get him, which Scott is now benefiting from. So that's unfortunate.

by Anonymousreply 133December 9, 2021 9:29 AM

R133 ^ EW, the formatting on my post got all fucked up. Sorry.

by Anonymousreply 134December 9, 2021 9:31 AM

R133, it really doesn’t matter that this guy acted like the worst POS and a sociopath. We shouldn’t convict people based on circumstantial evidence and without actual proof that they committed the crime. In Peterson’s case, there simply hasn’t been enough hard evidence to convict him.

by Anonymousreply 135December 9, 2021 9:42 AM

R135 False. You can in fact convict based on circumstantial evidence. It's a myth that you can't. Lay people often have that misconception because they think the law requires CSI-like DNA evidence or video surveillance footage of the crime. It's called "The CSI effect". Look it up. Countless convictions have been obtained with circumstantial evidence. The system allows for it.

That said, is it possible that his team can create reasonable doubt during a re-trial? Possibly. I don't deny that. A skilled lawyer might be able to do it.

by Anonymousreply 136December 9, 2021 10:30 AM

[quote]two eye witnesses (husband and wife) who claims to have seen Laci walking thr dog the morning that she should've already been dead

I was reading an article the other day that quoted an investigator saying that the neighborhood actually had multiple petite, brunette women who were pregnant, and any of them could have been who the couple saw. I guess Peterson's sister-in-law is really pushing the idea that Laci was seen after Scott went to the marina, but it doesn't seem to be true.

by Anonymousreply 137December 9, 2021 10:33 AM

[quote]the foreman of the jury was threatened by other jurors who were bent on convicting. It was acknowledged that the foreman, who was a doctor, was highly analytical as would be expected, and initially trusted by the jurors to be the most thorough (hence his appointment to foreman), but when he started leaning toward innocence, he was practically lynched by the rest of the mob and asked the judge to be excused from the jury for fear of his safety, which he was

He wasn't a medical doctor, he held a Juris Doctor, he was an attorney and was also the third person dismissed from the jury.

There's nothing to say that he was leaning toward innocence. He said he felt pressure to give the verdict that would "lead to the most popular book" or something along those lines. That's all we ever heard from him and you can't even find the guy online these days, so most of what you said is speculation.

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by Anonymousreply 138December 9, 2021 10:40 AM

No, he's not.

Next up: Is O.J. Simpson innocent?

by Anonymousreply 139December 9, 2021 10:48 AM

Do I believe he is innocent? No. At first, I thought they got into a fight and maybe he pushed her and she fell and busted he head open, etc. and so manslaughter because he never meant to kill her. But then it came out that he had a girlfriend, and then, when they arrested him he had a wig and money, etc....or was that OJ? Whatever. And then, when they found the body, it looked like the victim had been deliberately calculatedly sunk in the ocean. I mean think about how much effort and planning went into disposal of the body. Because if you accidently kill you pregnant wife, you don't do that shit. So yes, he murdered her. He deserves nothing.

by Anonymousreply 140December 9, 2021 11:10 AM

Don't be daft. Seriously.

by Anonymousreply 141December 9, 2021 11:12 AM

That (r141) was to the OP and his idiotic question.

And don't get me started on yet another variation of the ubiquitous and bogus "Witness walking a dog": "Witness saw Laci walking a dog." Enough with the GD dogs! They don't lend credence to lies by mentally-disturbed crime-fame-whores!

by Anonymousreply 142December 9, 2021 11:17 AM

Scott Peterson is nothing more and nothing less than your garden-variety husband who wanted out of a marriage with a pregnant wife, a situation deemed intolerable, crippling, stifling, robbing said husband of future affairs, financial success, true happiness!

But who didn't want to lose a penny or any prestige with a divorce.

Scott Peterson, Jeffrey MacDonald, Charles Stuart---murderous peas in a pod.

by Anonymousreply 143December 9, 2021 11:31 AM

R136, false what? Where in my statement did I say that we don't convict based on circumstantial evidence when simple reading comprehension 101 will tell you that I said we SHOULD NOT convict based on circumstantial evidence. Why? Because there are too many innocent people in jail because of circumstantial evidence.

But thank you for the lecture......

by Anonymousreply 144December 9, 2021 1:40 PM

R144 False convictions are bound to happen. Crime rates would explode if we didn't use circumstantial evidence. You're a retard.

by Anonymousreply 145December 9, 2021 1:53 PM

Ofcourse he did it! The Marina where the body was found and where Scott went fishing is 2 hours away from Modesto . A coincidence? Seriously doubt it as there are hundreds of local closer fishing spots than the Berkeley Marina.

by Anonymousreply 146December 9, 2021 1:55 PM

R144, I do not think that term means what you think it does.

If every criminal conviction required an eyewitness, justice would be not only blind but deaf and mute as well.

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by Anonymousreply 147December 9, 2021 2:33 PM

No, OP. He is not.

by Anonymousreply 148December 9, 2021 4:59 PM
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