Anyone ever find yourself in a situation like this? If so, what did, or what would, you do?

tl;dr

Is there nowhere left where we can be free of pussy?

Reddit has ESTs?

Brevity, people

Mentally ill woman turns up at gay orgy and wonders why no-one wants to fuck her.

So many questions.

What on earth were they doing showing up to an orgy in the middle of a pandemic?

pre-pandemic was specified

I’ve never understood why women want to be at gay bars and other gay gatherings. It would be just as creepy if a bunch of random straight guys wanted to hang out with bulldaggers.

"Cis"

"Queer"

The party would have sucked regardless, trust me!

Good lord, where to start?

Welcome to the real world?

Graham Linehan is a good comedy writer turned transphobic maniac.

What’s the dreadful lie?

There are about five layers of delusion going on in this story...

.... maybe more comfortable at a Lesbian or Trans orgy . She was missing the vital organ for attendance at the gay orgy.

Sorry I didn't realise this was a pre pandemic pansexual party

That was hilarious. Would be a perfect comedy sketch.

No sympathy for people who intentionally place themselves in situations where they are not wanted.

What part of "gay men" did you not understand, person with a pussy and (small) breasts?

r2 hush now or the terfs or margaret cho, rose mcgowan, tori amos, kylie every former faghag that had a dip in fans when she became an obese alcoholic or just crazy will come out to tell you how they single handedly championed gay rights and no one is more of a misogynist than gay men, how they were more abused by gay men than whoever they blew for a tv special and you're just a diseased aggot dancing on a little float in speedos and taking meth, and why won't anyone think about the women

every single l/g/b/t group is plagued by cosplaying kiddies... maybe they should be redirected to all the bi stars of the 70s & 90s that ended up monogamous str8 and hostile to ever having mentioned they were bi in the first place. . when they showed no evidence of it other than be cracked out whores that would say or do anything for attention

r16 this one is close... wait for the end. which is also what one should do to yaoi/slash writers or the large base of lesbians that watch gay porn.

Why should gay men be forced to welcome or have sex with a biological woman, regardless of how she identifies herself?

Hahaha.... I remember that story being posted last summer - in a thread about Chaz Bono, of all people.

"2 months on T and pre top and pre bottom but I dress really masc and I have a smallish chest" 🙄

The friend must have deliberately set zir up to be humiliated.

Actually, I was asked to do several paid DJ'ing gigs at gay clubs and gay discos. I am female and straight, but trans(I have not transitioned genders and do not intend to; I am transgender, not transSEXUAL).

The audience was all-male, but I was the entertainment and not the audience, so there weren't any awkward moments.

Some really hot bisexual guys followed me into those clubs. Two of them later became long-term boyfriends.

These weren't necessarily sex parties; but a few of the clubs were bdsm bars and shirtless male dance clubs.

Why is Graham Linehan obsessed with trans?

They came for our bars! They came for our porn! Now they're coming for our PNP orgies!

[quote] I thought by posting I could get it off my chest.

As long as your tits stay on.

This is the third time in two days someone has posted a link to that site. It’s obviously Graham. Enough already. The guy’s an obsessed lunatic. This post isn’t even on Reddit.

It is, though.

[quote] Mentally ill woman turns up at gay orgy and wonders why no-one wants to fuck her.

Clearly, R5 wins the thread. Short, succinct, to the point, spot-on.

So why didn't the poster organize a trans orgy?

Face it, the farther off-bubble you are, the fewer people you'll attract. This isn't just a trans issue. People who are gay, bi, disabled, fat, physically unattractive, non-white, too short, mentally ill, with criminal histories etc all face the same challenge. Any subset of the population will have a smaller pool of prospective partners. But the only ones who make a BFD out this are the trans, doubtless because they've convinced themselves that becoming a facsimile of the opposite sex means they really ARE the opposite sex, but no one else believes it.

I was glad she seemed to clue into that, R21. A bad night seemed to be a wake up call on many fronts.

Have not seen Chaz Bono mentioned in ages. Morbid obesity and T seem like a heart attack is in the cards, sad. Had a nice seeming wife originally too.

I’m a gay man. I liked Graham Linehan before his activism about trans issues, and now I like him even more. It’s one thing to say “live and let live”, which I think most everyone agrees with. It’s a completely different issue to legislate for men to be allowed in women-only spaces.

Allowing men into women’s shelters, women’s organisations, women’s sports, and women’s prisons is fucking mental. I just can’t believe that more people aren’t supporting women on this.

[quote]So why didn't the poster organize a trans orgy?

Because trans people will tell you that a trans man is a man and a trans woman is a woman, when it comes to them, but when it comes to having sex, they want the real thing -- and will rebuke you for wanting the same.

It's such a relief...to be OLD!

What would you do/say if you were at a party and this happened? Best to be prepared because we all laughed about MichFest but now it seems we are not exempt...

I'm on Team "Friend" Set Her Up (or they are both hopelessly naive)

Gay men didn't want to fuck a fish? So shocking...not. Stay the fuck in your privileged spaces str8 bitches. We don't want you and your droopy pussy.

It was one thing when it was just social akwardness but now there can be other ramifications...so what to do if faced with this situation?

That sub is quite a depressing place. Back in the day, the world and therapists, friends, family tried to help an individual adjust to reality. Now the autistic and mentally ill and naive are told to spend their lives trying to bend reality to their delusions. And get the non-compliant fired.

Bad night but maybe she got a valuable reality check from it.

Steamworks now hosts special nights for trans men and trans women. Well, they did pre-pandemic. Good for them and I hope they continue post pandemic!

[quote]Hahaha.... I remember that story being posted last summer - in a thread about Chaz Bono, of all people.

Yeah, I remember reading this before, I think it was crossposted on another subreddit.

If you don't want your body enough to call it pre-op don't be critical when i too have a preference for not your body. they said they were in the room for 2 minutes before hiding in the bathroom crying. is it possible that the men didn't cringe or make faces but simply were not interested? it could feel like disgust and rudeness if you're expecting to be adored.

She’s a straight girl looking to get gang banged by guys and chooses a gay orgy? Some people just enjoy suffering

[quote] being stuck at home alone makes me fester in my thoughts.

LOL

Gotta say, it was a nice touch for Graham to use a picture of Chiyo, the trans Mr Gay England contestant, to accompany this story.

Straight guys denying us sex are homophobic then ?

[quote] What would you do/say if you were at a party and this happened? Best to be prepared because we all laughed about MichFest but now it seems we are not exempt...

Do nothing. Just laugh.

It doesn’t hurt us one bit.

Exactly what I was thinking R44. It’s like showing up to a bachelor party and demanding the groom-to-be to bend over and let me fuck him.

This is some made up transphobic bullshit. A trans person wouldn't need to go a gay male orgy with 100 men to suddenly feel out of place. They feel out of place all the time - they feel extreme dysmorphia in their own bodies. This is just made up to stir up hate and transphobia. I know several trans people and they don't even engage with other individuals on a social, sexual level. I find it hard to believe that someone who hasn't even transitioned a little bit would walk around an orgy and expect everyone there to be interested in them - as if trans people don't know what rejection is. Most of them have been bullied all of their lives.

This is total bullshit. But it's really hitting the sweet spot for the transphobic crowd. You gay guys should remember all the untrue, demonising things your opposition used to say about you - and now you're just as bad. Shame, shame, shame. Keep scrolling, don't bother me with your bullshit.

Jeez. Gay men don't want anyone at their party except other gay men. They are absolute Cro-Magnons who have other men allowing them to be as deviant as possible; all men are this way. In the hetero world, women bring them down to a semblance of civility, and they must control their urges to a degree. In Fagland, it's as base and disgusting as possible. I don't give a shit about trans anything, but I know a thing or two about fags. Maybe even more. They just want cock and ass in any form possible, and want to judge the rest of the world for not giving a fuck that they want this. Do what you wanna do behind closed doors, but don't expect gay men to be inclusive, understanding, flexible, or kind. They are GAY and love COCK and everyone needs to ACCEPT THEM AS SUPERIOR!

Gay men at a gay party! I am ultra-triggered! Everyone listen to, focus on and acknowledge my victimization.

EXHAUSTING.

[quote] I had never felt dysphoria like this before and I don’t think I can go on with life this way. I know I’m a man but Id never felt more invalid than that point in my life.

Huh? I'm confused, I thought this person was female. She/he could at least get their story straight.

"The dreadful like being told to young women"--that they can't join all-male orgies? The HORROR!!!!!

Ftm, R50.

What the he’ll do these people expect? The author is shocked that gay men don’t want to have sex with someone with breasts and a vagina?

It was originally posted in the ftm subreddit, R47, so if it is “some made up transphobic bullshit” it was made up specifically for an audience of transmen.

I consider it bad hosting. I would never invite a vegan to a BBQ.

It's poor manners, isn't it R55

R27, I googled it and found nothing. That doesn’t mean that we don’t have an anti-trans troll here pushing the same web site.

That being said, they may have had my sympathy had they not said that it was a sex party. I mean, really. This is what validates you? A place that is no doubt spreading disease and probably has people doing drugs? These are not going to be the brightest bulbs in the world. If this person is going to look to others for validation they’re going to be very unhappy. People are assholes. Furthermore, you can’t expect every gay man to feel turned on by a vagina or front hole. That’s their right. Had they been told that there would be other trans people there, that would be another story and a big clue as to whether or not this was going to be the place for them. These guys are very specific - they want dick. This person sounds naive. Just as gays have had to do, you need to develop a really thick skin when you’re a minority. People can smell fragility and they prey upon it. They really need a good therapist to guide them. I wonder how old this person is.

I’m not trying to be offensive, but does anyone know any ftm that are in relationships with women? The ones I’ve come across are into men. I run in gay circles though.

So a mentally ill lesbian walks into a gay sex party and pretends to be a victim for not being welcomed? REALLY?

Hey women - All this Trans shit you keep bitching about? How men are infiltrating female sports and ladies rooms? That's called chickens coming home to roost. You cunts have tormented and stripped men of everything and every place that only men could enjoy. And not just gay men. We have not been able to have our own health clubs, our own co-working spaces, our own social clubs, our own bars, etc. the way that YOU continue to have all of those things and, somehow, legally are able to keep men out. So now, a heavy dose of karma is coming your way and it's coming in the form of your worse nightmares; deranged, otherwise gay men and pervy straight guys with pantie fetishes. And they're going to strip you of everything you've taken from men. And after that, the male MeToo movement will begin, followed by a strong dose of female-targeted cancel culture.

And it's all because you ladies just couldn't respect and allow the sexes to have some of their own spaces where they too could feel safe and among like-minded people. You had to either infiltrate and kill those places from the inside, or you destroyed it by exploiting laws and the special status you once held in society.

And now, your time has also come.

What I find most shocking is that everyone at this party is a masc stud.

All the FTMs I know in real life are 'former' lesbians who continued to date women after transition, R58.

What an utter crock of shit, R59.

The host did not invite her, another guest invited her. That she then occupied the only bathroom crying so no one could take a leak is such stereotypical female behavior. Could have just gone home. At least she clued in that the friend was not a good one. This intense (and unrealistic!) need to be "validated" by complete strangers who did not sign up to LARP with you seems a setup to exacerbate mental issues. In that sub they seem to think that after top or bottom surgery, shudder, they will magically have a working male body with a functioning penis, male phermones, etc. Nope, will be the thinnest of facades, maybe, from the right angle. But, gay men do not want pussy or small tits.

Even other trans people on that thread say they wouldn’t have hooked up with her.

I knew an FTM that was into women. He was exceptionally hot as a man and was cruised all the time by gay guys. She was a gorgeous blonde bombshell. His friends called her the Barbie Doll. The thing I don't get is, labels and clothes aside, this is still woman on woman. What's changed?

So a person with XX chromosomes (a woman, with a vagina and breasts) started taking male hormones, went to a gay male sex party, and is traumatized about not being seen sexually as a gay male. Ok, that makes sense.

[quote][bold]On the other side of the door I heard someone even said “I think that girl is still in there”. I had never felt dysphoria like this before and I don’t think I can go on with life this way.[/bold] I know I’m a man but Id never felt more invalid than that point in my life.

Then you need serious help that goes beyond cutting off your tits and bolting on a cock.

R66, it’s worse. The hormones hadn’t even done anything since it was too early on.

The Reddit thread has other trans saying they didn’t attempt to date gay men until after they had been on hormones for a long time.

[quote] I feel like ending it all after that.

So she wanted to commit suicide after some gay guys rejected her at a gay orgy?? Talk about unstable.

Did somebody ask this person if they were attracted to breasts and vagina themselves? I imagine not if they hate them on their own body. Why then would they expect gay men to be attracted to them?

R11, shut your homophobic misogynistic ass the fuck up and let the adults control the conversation for a change.

r34 it was more the reverse, sweetie.

they had no empathy for what was happening the gay male spaces long before this.... make any note of it and it will always come back to why aren't you paying attention to women, what about the women, how do we keep predator gay men away from women, why won't you talk about women, why do you force women to wear dresses it's all men, men, bad bad, men.

I was in the opposite situation: an invite to a private evening party at the home of two gay men. They had a big backyard and a pool and a hot tub, and it was a nice summer night. About 90% of the attendees were nude.

Someone brought a MTF trans friend who looked like Jessica Yaniv -- just a big ugly guy in lipstick and a hair mess. The guy had had breast implants (no idea about the downstairs situation).

At a regular party: who cares. At a cruisy private party, it was a major hardoff to have this person inserting xyrself into any group situation that was getting hot.

It's ironic that this person probably insists that he's a woman, but still felt entitled to come to a gathering where he could get some dick by "identifying" as his original gender for a few hours.

R73, that place sounds trashy as hell.

R72 forgot to take her meds.

R59 = the Nazi Holocaust deniers at the capitol indirection

All of you casual transphobic people should take a look around and realise you’re sharing an umbrella with this guy. That’s who you’ll be soon if you don’t stop the hate and start developing some empathy and compassion for people who are different from you.

I get so sick of the Anti-Trans BS posters. SOS

[quote]All of you casual transphobic people should take a look around and realise you’re sharing an umbrella with this guy.

Being handcuffed to an umbrella sucks.

I don't use umbrellas. If it rains on me, so be it. I will dry.

[quote] wish I didn’t listen to him. People physically recoiled from me when I walked near them and made faces at me. It was like I had a literal fucking force field around me :(. It felt like hours cruising around but it was really only about 2 minutes before I had enough. I cried in the bathroom for like half an hour before my friend found me. While I was in there a few people knocked wanting to use it and I told them to go away mid cry. On the other side of the door I heard someone even said “I think that girl is still in there”. I had never felt dysphoria like this before and I don’t think I can go on with life this way. I know I’m a man but Id never felt more invalid than that point in my life.

A he-she woman "was invited to a sex party (for men only) " by someone not a host, feels immediately uneasy "even though I sort of pass (FYI 2 months on T and pre top and pre bottom but I dress really masc and I have a smallish chest)" but starts taking off clothes thinking that 2 months on testosterone, a pair of tits, and a pussy would melt the icy reactions. They don't. She cries like a girl in the toilet for, like, a half hour, ignoring the knocks for people who want to piss, not have a cry. She ruminates on the vicious privilege of cis men, gay men who want to take a load up their ass (or empty it out in the toilet, only there's some weird chick in their having a, like, half hour cry), and blames the snobbery of her fellow party goers, each of whom has a dick by birth.

Oh the cruel, cruel unfairness.

If she really were a gay guy, she'd have known that no-one there would want to fuck her, and she wouldn't have cried about it.

I just can't with all these idiotic terms these people have come up with for different people.

That's all Reddit is, R3. People discovered they could create ESTs for AITA and other subreddits and go viral, so that's pretty much all Reddit is anymore.

Graham Linehan needs to get the hell out of the LGBT community, we don't need gross straight guys coopting the movement for their own weird personal political agenda.

All he does is repeat ESTs and lies anyway, he has absolutely no clue about feminism, the gay community, lesbians or anything of the sort. This is a dude who wrote a whole TV show episode about women being just Ca-RAZY about shoe shopping... in 2006, thirty years after shoe shopping jokes had been a thing.

Well, now transdude knows to ask more questions before going to the next party.

*Shrug*

[quote] I had enough. I cried in the bathroom for like half an hour before my friend found me. While I was in there a few people knocked wanting to use it and I told them to go away mid cry....Id never felt more invalid than that point in my life.

Welcome to being a depressed female, and probably a closet-case lesbian. Please check your coat at the far-right stall.

Can someone get the creep at R59 some rape stats, please? Last I checked, women en masse weren’t sexually assaulting men in their locker-rooms or bathrooms or homes as cultural practise.

Even this case doesn’t count as assault, except maybe for the eyeballs in the case of particularly gynophobic gays. The half-naked girl ran off within five minutes and locked herself away in the toilet, which hardly counts as anything more than rude, annoying and inconsiderate.

Crazy Idiot

If you're a Chinese guy do you really belong at the black man's support group?

No.

Just like how if you aren't a /real/ gay male i.e. adult male with penis into the same you don't belong at the gay male sex party.

[quote]I know I’m a man but Id never felt more invalid than that point in my life.

Don't piss on your own head and tell yourself that it's raining.

[quote]I am female and straight, but trans(I have not transitioned genders and do not intend to; I am transgender, not transSEXUAL).

Exhausting.

[quote] you don't belong at the gay male sex party.

So a gay male doesn’t belong at a gay male sex party?

All the time OP. I’m very butch looking so they don’t mind until I get my snatch out at the party. I mean, it’s a hole, fuck it!

[quote]R5: Mentally ill woman turns up at gay orgy and wonders why no-one wants to fuck her.

[bold]This.[/bold]

r75 ah, to be crazy and believe empathy should be a two way street or deal with a whiny and all too often 1st world bitch who believing they're entitlted to everything because "other" people suffer. it's sociopathic, isn't it? those that are completely and totally unable to empathize with anything that isn't totally self serving for them. .. they control, they manipulate, they create a situation where they are always the sole victim regardless of whether or not it actually affects them.

it's simple, sweetie, if we're going to make broad generalizations about any group of people... then we're going to make broad generalizations about broads, too, about everyone... about every segment contained therein, you don't get to pick and choose. this isn't highlander, sweetie, there can be more than one.

in the trans community, they're called trenders and at this point, actual trans are the minority in their own communities. just as everyone else has to do with their nutters, cosplayers or just willfully ignorant too. the real enemies here should be lgbt organizations and those collective bodies of authorities that have made it a crime for anyone to have any kind of standard in defining their groups, their needs and resources. . . things as they are only serve to palacate (or even intentionally act out even more exaggerated) to the lowest denominator - not even common - the lowest denominator of those outside of the group. so, we don't see progression and the building up of our communities but rather regression from on our knees desperately waiting for trickles of cum from the authority on high.

there are no leaders, anymore, not that anyone knows how to lead anymore without the use of flimsy scapegoats to unite the people... and when the scapegoat no longer suffices then histronic infighting begins in the death match of the oppression olympics.

[quote]So a gay male doesn’t belong at a gay male sex party?

She's not a gay male. She's a straight girl who has tried to turn herself into a "forever-twink".

I don’t get it, and I don’t really believe it happened. The gay friend telling her to go? Come on, that would never happen.

R96 None of the Troll’s propaganda ever makes any sense. Most transfolks early in transition are horrified by their bodies not jumping into sex parties. The Russians must pay well to keep posting such drivel.

On the contrary I think the gay friend tried to help her understand that she's completely delusional.

Dear R87, the truth does sting, doesn't it? Yeah, I know. But thanks for floating "rape" in your sad little attempt to derail a comment and a topic. Nobody's said anything about women being raped. And, you help make my point. You somehow make it ALL about you. And perhaps that's why trans people are now threatening you ladies so much. You now recognize your own sexism in how you've generalized and impacted men in negative ways. You now see in trans men/women what you see in yourself. How they shove their way into your spaces, and how you feel they appropriate the female condition. Yet, you've done that to men for decades now. It wasn't good enough to obtain equality, but in many aspects of society, you had to completely flip the scales unfairly in your favor.

What's all that fluttering of wings and those thousands of things headed your way R87? That's all those chickens coming home to roost!

A super-woke former (straight white female) friend sent me and some other gay guys in our group this story and added her comments about how this shows "the extremely high levels of transphobia and hatred in the gay male community."

I told her to lead by example and start by dating, having sex with and marrying a "straight" FTM who is pre-top and pre-bottom instead of exclusively dating cis men. No reply at all to that from the bitch.

R49- I'll you one thing Roxanne Gay would be EXHAUSTED by the whole topic.

[quote] Just like how if you aren't a /real/ gay male i.e. adult male with penis into the same you don't belong at the gay male sex party.

r89 According to the liberal LGBQTIA+ Trans Rights Activists/Allies, genital has nothing to do with being a (gay) man or a (lesbian) woman and your sentence would make you a "genital fetishist", not to mention a transphobe.

The ones who transition, only to say they are gay afterwards, are truly mystifying.

R97 is a troll he wrote “transfolks” instead of “transfolx”.

A lot (most) of these online activists are classified as woke in the street, terf in the sheets but won’t admit they aren’t and don’t want to fuck a trans person or if they do they get piled on.

The whole “if you don’t date/fuck me, then you’re transphobic” is so rapey and gross.

R100 yes I’m certain this happened and that you didn’t just make it up.

There was a thread about the Mr Gay England contestant Chiyo, who said that gay men who don't want to fuck him when he's having his period are transphobic and all the other contestants stood in solidarity and said that gay men can have vaginas and it's transphobic to have a genital preference.

So when sex based rights are eliminated gay men better get ready to welcome men with vaginas into their men only spaces. Saunas, gyms, bars and clubs, people with vaginas will want to make a point and demand access, citing equality legislation if they are denied access. It doesn't matter if they look like a frau called Karen, as long as they identify as a gay man they'll be able to wander around the sauna naked and wander into dark rooms in gay clubs.

Because if women with beards are allowed into women's changing rooms, men with breasts and vaginas will make sure they do the same with men's spaces.

[quote] thanks for floating "rape" in your sad little attempt to derail a comment and a topic. Nobody's said anything about women being raped.

Actually, if you’d care to read the hundred comments above, plenty of others did. It’s moreover entirely germane to the topic at hand, given we’re discussing intergender sexual congress in semi-public spaces. But far be it for me to piss in your glass of sour grape juice.

[quote] And, you help make my point. You somehow make it ALL about you. And perhaps that's why trans people are now threatening you ladies so much.

MTFs are threatening women because they are frustrated straight men, and that’s what frustrated straight men do. There is a Millennial of recorded history to support this claim. You seem desperate to be part of systemic female oppression, and it’s really weird; allow me to disabuse you of the notion that it’s fun, or sexy, or masochistically enjoyable, or something of which you can opt in and out. Ask your mother or your grandmother or your old lady neighbour how they’ve coped, I guarantee they’ve got horror stories for you.

[quote] You now recognize your own sexism in how you've generalized and impacted men in negative ways.

Sorry, I don’t, no. Because women are forced from birth to err on the side of caution around all men as a blanket rule. It’s part of socialisation that all born-females have, thanks to the way our society is set up. Under this social conditioning, men can indeed be unfairly castigated sometimes, but it is not appropriate to order female complicity and for women to expose themselves to probable physical and psychological harm just because your ego gets a tiny scratch of their guard is up. Gay men suffer more, of course, as they are more likely to a victim of male assault; but again, it isn’t on the watch of women to stop men using violence to express their frustration. Be mad at the system, and be mad at straight men who can’t and won’t use their anger for good, rather than random females who happen to cross your path and have likely endured more bullshit as a result of this than you ever will.

And that is my final word on this. R59/R99 is seriously disturbed. Hopefully he doesn’t have daughters, nieces, female friends, or any women living in his vicinity.

To be fair, I’ve cried at a few all-male orgies and I’m a man.

[quote]So a gay male doesn’t belong at a gay male sex party?

No, but straight men are welcome.

Empathy is explaining why this is true to people who do not have penises.

Well! The "friend" who brought the proto-transman is NOT getting any more party invitations from that crowd!

Because of this thread, I bought "Howl's Moving Castle" from Google Play.

I hardly buy any streaming films, because I know there will be planned obsolescence, but what the hell it was $11.99. Starting it NOW! Gawd, the opening shots are beautiful...

Whoops, wrong thread!

It really is interesting that although there's a great deal of chatter, in the mainstream and in the LBGT community, about how women need to be more accepting of transwomen and treat them better. But the little talk of men needing to be more accepting of transmen is aimed entirely at gay men, there is NO talk of straight men needing to change a thing!

What would have happened if a friend took that girl to a rowdy sports bar.

[quote]Whoops, wrong thread!

Well, it's a fantasy about transformations.

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me so hard.

Go to about 5:30 for the goods. you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Honey, this IS what life is like for a gay man who isn't conventionally hot.

Except that nobody's bitched you out to your face yet.

What annoys me even more about the 'guy' used in OP pic is that this chick isnt even a 'gay man'. She is bisexual. So she made a big deal about wanting to be mr GAY uk, while not even being either male or exclusively attracted to men. She is an attention seeking troll. Not even going to respond to the story posted, as its probably a LARP - most of reddit is.

But 'gay' men do fuck ftms, I see them on grindr looking for them. I dont get it at all. Id have sex with a 'cis; woman (and have) before I ever fucked some hairy mentally crazy chick who chops off her tits and calls herself a 'faggot'. Both a bizarre, and quite frankly, offensive spectacle this whole FTM thing is to my gay ass.

What would happen if everyone agreed that men can have vaginas and women can have dicks, but that "male" refers to a person with a dick and "female", to a person with a vagina? And then defined "gay men" and "straight women" as people attracted to males, and "lesbians" and "straight men" as people attracted to females? Would that solve anything?

An FTM at a gay orgy would have about the same effect as a Baby Ruth bar floating in the water at a pool party.

Why is the girl in the story being referred to as FTM? She herself says she is pre-top and pre-bottom. WTF is supposed to be the "M" in the FTM label in her case? The way she feels?

She said she was taking hormones, so I guess she'd started on the transition process.

Which puts her ahead of the people who don't make any effort to physically transition, but still insist that they're the sex they identify as at and not their physical sex, and who throw a sex if anyone doubts them.

I exclusively punch and delete when I hear the word inclusive.

There's no such thing as an inclusive sex party.

Either you fit in with what other people want, or you're crying in the bathroom, and that goes for the "inclusive" parties she mentions in her saga.

[quote] Why is the girl in the story being referred to as FTM? She herself says she is pre-top and pre-bottom. WTF is supposed to be the "M" in the FTM label in her case? [bold]The way she feels?[/bold]

r120 Yes. Self ID? 'All valid spectrum among T'? Most don't do a thing to their bottom. That's what T means these days.

This person is a woman. This person is woman in the same way that your mother who carried you in her womb for months is a woman. If you don't believe it you are transphobic.

Even GameStop Hulk would probably get more cock at that sex party than her

I don't understand. Was it a transman or a woman that showed up? What the hell kind of friend did the author have. The only person to blame is the goofball friend for putting him/her in the position.

Yes. Reddit has professional level ESTs R3. Not the bargain basement versions we see on DL.

This is or should I say, was, a typical Tuesday to Thursday late night, or early morning while living in NYC with my former roommates, who were gay AF and brought anyone from the bartender at the club to rough trade home constantly. There was even a girl who had just fled some sort of psych ward and was wearing a hospital gown and a wrist band.

Crazy times.

And OP, you’re just learning that CIS men are disappointing?

LMAO. All men, gay, bi or straight, will fuck yiu over if you let them. You do have a choice and agency. Find both of those things now and take control of your shit because of you don’t, someone else without any true purpose will do so and you will have worse disappointments than this.

This is NOTHING.

LMAO.

p.s. The smell of ass and lube lingers for days, don’tcha know?.

💩🤮💩.

All this made-up terminology reminds me of when I was a kid watching Battlestar Galactica on TV and the characters were saying things like ‘we won’t arrive for another thirty gleams’ or such shit.

[quote] All of you casual transphobic people should take a look around and realise you’re sharing an umbrella with this guy. That’s who you’ll be soon if you don’t stop the hate and start developing some empathy and compassion for people who are different from you

So ‘compassion’ and ‘empathy& empathy mean gay men have fuck vaginas? GTF out of here!

I’ve been turned down many’ many times. I didn’t go hide in the bathroom.

[quote]I’ve been turned down many’ many times. I didn’t go hide in the bathroom.

Even if it had a glory hole?

She assumed there would be "men of all gender expressions". Does she mean both normal men and trans men? Man is a gender expression --- this is incoherent. It's like saying all the different colors of blue, it's either blue or it isn't bitch. Tiktok REALLY needs to be banned in the US, it's making young women very mentally ill. So many are convinced they have gender dysphoria, Tourette's, multiple personality disorder, low functioning autism, and other mental illnesses that have a performative aspect to them.

The fact that it never occurred to her/him/they to leave when it was an event and space clearly not for them is the blatant problem in this whole story.

Sometimes shit just isn’t for you and that’s ok. Frankly, this all started with participation trophies and parents unwilling to teach their kids that sometimes you just don’t win.

Note to sad writer, if you want to fuck men, just be yourself - a woman. If you want to fuck a gay man, get your wallet out, and it better be full.

*T*R*A*N*S*P*A*M*

Newsflash - gay men don't like pussy. If you have a vagina and go to a queer/gay mens party, unless otherwise stated, you are going to be the cold fish. God, I just don't get kids today. You transition from being a straight woman who can get all the straight cock that many gay men want by just spreading your legs, yet you want to transition as a gay man from a woman. I get it, but I don't. I could see transitioning from F2M and being a huge pussy hound. Also very tone deaf of the friend, but if he is Mister Gen Z campus queer, maybe he doesn't get it.

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This thread is over a year old, just FYI.

It's also almost certainly an EST. That's all Reddit is these days, a repository for ESTs that get turned into quasi-mainstream news articles.

It's a gay men's orgy. Nobody wants to see female titties or a vagina

This makes me feel nauseous.

I hope this bitch doesn't join the men's swim team.